1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in our number two Friday edition, 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I hope all of you 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: are having fantastic starts to your early weekend as you 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: hang out with us. Lots of interesting stories continuing to 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: develop as we will continue to talk with you. We 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: get some great guests coming up in the next couple 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: of hours. Joseph Latipos, Surgeon General of Florida, schedule to 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: join us at the top of the third hour about 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: an hour from now, our friend Alex Barrenson at two 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: thirty East Coast time for the latest on the data 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: surrounding COVID. We're going to figure out the latest on 13 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Ukraine with Yates, who is going to be pretty fantastic. 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: All that's still to come. Well, I want to give 15 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: some props here if you've been paying attention at all 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: to the way that the media has covered a bill 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: in Florida which is designed to ensure that kindergartner's first graders, 18 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: second graders, and third graders effectively are not exposed to 19 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: sex related education. Right, so you're not going to hear 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: about heterosexual sex. You're not going to hear about gay sex. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: You're not going to hear about transgenderism. You're not going 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: to hear about any of that, which I think most 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: parents think is appropriate for five year old to eight 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: year old kids. Roughly, I've got a first grader. I 25 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: don't think that he needs to be figuring out how 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: the birds and the bees work in first grade school. 27 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: I don't think we need to have a deep analysis 28 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: of heterosexuality versus homosexuality, versus transgender all these different things. 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: To me, as a parent of a public school kid, 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: it seems appropriate that that is not topically accurate for 31 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: young kids. So this is turned into the way that 32 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: the mainstream media has covered it, the don't Say Gay bill, 33 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: and so you've got all different sorts of politicians running 34 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: around screaming the word gay, which is supposedly being prohibited 35 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: from classroom. Of course not true. It's actually just designed 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to ensure that kids are learning age appropriate lessons. So Disney, 37 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: which is based in many ways in Florida, many of 38 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: you listening probably have been to Disney World. Certainly a 39 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 1: lot of you listening have had your kids watch Disney 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: related programming. Probably a lot of you are Disney plus subscribers, 41 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: all of those things true for me. Disney as a 42 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: new CEO is name's Bob Chapeck, and so far he 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: has not been as politically active as Bob Eiger, who 44 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: was the former CEO of Disney and wanted to be 45 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Bob Iger still might 46 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: run for President of the United States at some point, 47 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and he, as a result, raced many parts of left 48 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: wing ideology. For instance, when Jamal Hill, formerly of ESPN, 49 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: called the President of the United States, Donald Trump, a 50 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: white supremacist, he didn't do anything, didn't care, probably agreed 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: with her. And Bob Jaybeck has tried. The new CEO 52 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: has tried to stay out of the political fray. But 53 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: there were so many left wing activists that were fired 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: up about this bill that finally Disney issued a statement 55 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: and ripped the state of Florida for passing this new bill. 56 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: And here's the deal. Lots of people out there who 57 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: are politicians would avoid this conflict and would pretend that 58 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: it didn't happen, and would let Disney tea off on 59 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: the people of Florida and would not fire back. Florida 60 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Governor Ron DeSantis was not going to stand for that. 61 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: So yesterday in an event in Boca Ratone, he specifically said, 62 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going to let Disney take shots at us. 63 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: Listen to this small segment of a couple of minutes 64 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: of comments that he made on this issue. First graders 65 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't have woke gender ideology and posts and their curriculums. 66 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: And that is what we're standing for, because we're standing 67 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: for the kids and we're standing for the parents. And 68 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: I can tell you this, they're the chance that I 69 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: Am going to back down from my commitment to students 70 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: and back down from my commitment to parents rights simply 71 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: because of fraudulent media narratives or pressure from woke corporations. 72 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: The chances of that or zero. That's the way you 73 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: got to do with Clay. It is. So he's right, 74 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: he's right on the facts here. But as we know, 75 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: if you're a conservative and you become someone who's out there, 76 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 1: whether it's fighting in public or even just having a 77 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: debate with someone in your day to day life, being 78 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: right on the facts isn't enough. You actually have to 79 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: be willing to take the fight. So to speak to 80 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: the other side a little bit, say no, I'm sorry, 81 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: We're not going to live in this fantasy world that 82 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: you're trying to create. You can't say a bill, bands 83 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: a word, or bands conversation that it flat lead does not. 84 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: You can't do that, and I'm not going to let 85 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: you do that. Rhonda Santis terrifies libs. Whatever one thinks 86 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: about his future aspirations or not, it doesn't matter, because 87 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: showing a state that is run well and that is 88 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: attracting people from all over the country by the hundreds 89 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: of thousands. We have the equivalent now of people of 90 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: Americans moving to Florida, a lot of people. I am 91 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: moving to Texas, a lot of people, and I'm moving 92 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: to I was gonna say Nashville to Tennessee Nashville too. 93 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 1: But this is the the federalism that we have at work. 94 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: And Rhonda Santis is always putting on a clinic not 95 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: only for how to run a state well so that 96 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 1: people want to come there. Right, It's not easy to 97 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: leave where you live. I live in New York City. 98 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: It's not the most straightforward thing. You might have a family, 99 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: your job, your roots, your town. People are saying I'm done, 100 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm leaving California. I'm leaving New Jersey. I'm moving down 101 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: to Florida, Texas in these other states. But beyond that, 102 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: DeSantis also shows that you have to be firm, you 103 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: have to be strong when you hold the line against 104 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: let's just call it the fake news. I mean, you 105 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: have to be willing to do that, because look what 106 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: they were able to do in last week, Clay, the 107 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: entire media apparatus was somewhow running around saying that don't 108 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: say gay bill. I mean, this should be like if 109 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: they you know, they walk around saying, you know, the 110 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: Biden saves America bill instead of the you know, big 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: spending bill to build back better agenda. I mean, they're 112 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: not They're not supposed to engage in that kind of 113 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: obvious propaganda. And Rhonda Santiss throwing a haymaker here. Well, 114 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: plus it's Disney and I hate this. I really genuinely 115 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: hate the idea because I'm talking about taking my kids 116 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: to disney World, because I like disney World, because kids 117 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,679 Speaker 1: like Disney World. Right, kids buy and large enjoy going 118 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: to amusement parks. I don't enjoy the idea that I 119 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: have to contemplate whether I want to spend money on 120 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 1: something that I know my kids would like, because Disney 121 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: is deciding to embrace this woke apparatus of political agenda, 122 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: and so what I've wishes were happening, what I wish 123 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: were happening is that we were in a situation where 124 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: Disney would just say what I wrote my most recent 125 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: book on Buck Republicans by Sneakers too. Were in the 126 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: business of appealing to kids everywhere, and so we're not 127 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: going to get drawn in to every single fake political story. 128 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: But when they do, and they did, I absolutely love 129 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: that Rhonda Santis came back with a Haymaker because what 130 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: Disney's not leaving for, They're not gonna rely canceled my 131 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: Disney Plus subscription Clay because of the Gina Kronov Mandalorian mess. 132 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: I love the Mandalorian Syria. The first season was great. 133 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: The second season kind of went off the resold. But 134 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: the point is I had a Disney Plus, well, my 135 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: family had a Disney Plus suscription. Put it that way, 136 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: and we canceled it when the Gina Corona thing happened 137 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: because it was just so and you hated having to 138 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: do that, right, that you had to make a choice 139 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: on politics when you might otherwise like some content, right 140 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: It's stupid. The same thing happening in sports where I 141 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: feel like every day I'm throwing punches in this culture 142 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: war that we're in, and I just wish they would say, hey, 143 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: you know what, you like basketball, you can watch basketball. 144 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: You like football, you can watch football. It's not the 145 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: world we live in right now. I mean for me, 146 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, and we make a lot of jokes about 147 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: how I'm not a big fresh sports fan. I kind 148 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: of used to be. I've gotten much less so as 149 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: I've gotten older, And for me, football is a good 150 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: enough a good enough product that you know, I go, well, 151 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like to watch it sometimes. NBA grew up. 152 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: I mean my uh, you know, I had an uncle 153 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: with season tickets to the Knicks, so I used to 154 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: go on a regular basis Mattison Square Garden. I know, 155 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: I know those Knicks players still by name days you 156 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: were there, Patrick Ewing, Trent Tucker, John Starks. I mean, 157 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I can go down the whole list, the Bomb Squad, 158 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: Anthony Mason, not Dominique Wilkins, the Gerald Wilkins. I remember 159 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: the high season guys all the time. I went to 160 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: tons of games. Now it's just the NBA. I was 161 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: watching them like, I'm sorry, I'm just done. I'm just 162 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: not gonna do this anymore. And and I wish that 163 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: wasn't the case. And I wish more people, quite honestly 164 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: would see this as damaging to their business interests. But 165 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: you know, look, I mean Colin Kaepernick, I was asking 166 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: about it before before the show. Today, Suddenly he's in 167 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: the best shape of his life, a better QBS. Now 168 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: like five years in a row that Colin Kaepernick's been 169 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: in the best shape of his life and he wants 170 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. But Buck, it was just 171 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 1: like five months ago that he had a Netflix documentary 172 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: special where I think we pulled some cuts. I believe 173 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: we played I Am Colin, Is that what it was. 174 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I didn't watch any of it except for the clips 175 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: that I saw, But he compared the NFL draft to 176 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: a slave auction. I mean that was a huge march, 177 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: you remember, I think we played that on the show, 178 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: and it shows, like literally the video shows, guys, and look, 179 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 1: if you're not paying attention to the NFL combine just happened. 180 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: Everybody walks around and you know, basically underwear, you hight 181 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: your weight, your arm, length, like basically every single thing 182 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: about you they analyze in an effort to determine whether 183 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: or not to pay you millions of dollars to play football. 184 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: And so Colin Kaepernick in his documentary that NETI Netflix 185 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: theoretically paid millions of dollars to him for they take 186 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: those guys walking around a shirtless getting measured and turn 187 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: it into a slave auction. So they moved from you're 188 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: an NFL head coach looking at the different possible guys 189 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: that you're going to pay millions of dollars to to. 190 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: You're at a slave auction and you're bidding on slaves 191 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: standing on a state I'm comparing to people who are 192 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: dehumanized and treated as property and threatened with the constant 193 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: possibility of extreme physical abuse and death. To multi millionaire 194 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 1: celebrities who everybody wants to be like and be near 195 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: and have them sign that is making the voluntary choice 196 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: to play football. I mean it is. It is about, 197 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: as you know, you're you're picking the most. You're picking 198 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: being among the most privileged and and blessed people in 199 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: the you know, freest best country in the world right now, 200 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and comparing it to a situation of human beings being 201 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: treated as property as as subhumans. What's wild about it? 202 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: In addition to the insanity is buck he's now trying 203 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: to become a slave again, right, I mean, so he 204 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: has gone from saying the NFL treats everybody like slaves, 205 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: you are effectively a slave, to begging and training for 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity to be a slave again. So what is it? 207 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I can't even keep up with him. Are athletes still slaves? 208 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: Or is it an aspirational goal to be a NFL player? Like? 209 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: The answer is it's the second. But he's not even 210 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: intelligent enough to have been able to put forward a 211 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: consistent position on it and just circling back to the 212 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 1: corporate wokeness thing for a second. NFL obviously this counts 213 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: as well there, But with when you're talking about Disney, 214 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 1: here's the problem we have to face. The woke left 215 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: is mobilized and activated and makes demands and puts pressure 216 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: on these places all the time. I think conservatives, just 217 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: by nature of how we view the world, and you know, 218 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: we have a more individual and liberty and live and 219 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: let live attitude to things, are less likely to do 220 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: this stuff. But we if we allow this to continue, 221 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: they continue to dominate corporate America is what ends up happening. 222 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,559 Speaker 1: They get their way, and so this is why I say, 223 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: you know, we either do something about it or we 224 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 1: just keep complaining about it. Well, I think what you 225 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: have to do at a minimum is show that there's 226 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: consequences for taking statements and making statements like these, and 227 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: a lot of Republicans just pretend it doesn't exist. Politicians. 228 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I like the fact that Ron decantists fired back because 229 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: you need to know that this is not a situation 230 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: where you can just bow down and genuflect at the 231 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: altar of the woke and there's not going to be 232 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: consequences on the other side when you do that. And 233 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate the scantists or uncuncient. This is like when 234 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: Amazon Web Services kicked Parlor, the free speech social media 235 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 1: platform off of effectively de internetted. I knew. So many 236 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: people were like, it's horrible. It's like, but I love 237 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: getting those Amazon packages. It's like, okay, yeah, right, if 238 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: they know that, And that is why they can do that, 239 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: because they know that you're not going to You're not 240 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: going to stop, So we'll come back into summons. 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Appreciate 276 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: him joining us right now to talk about the latest 277 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. Steve, I know it's been probably a crazy 278 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks for you, trying to keep tabs on 279 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: everything that's going on, talking to everyone that you know, 280 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 1: What would you say has surprised you? A couple part 281 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: question here to start with, what surprised you the most, 282 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: and where do you think we are headed from here? Well, 283 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: lays Clay, I think what has surprised me the most 284 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: is really what has been breaking in the last couple 285 00:15:55,480 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: of days with this effort to tie some biological labs 286 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: in Ukraine to a kind of an rock style pitch 287 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: to the UN by now Russia, probably backed by China, 288 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: suggesting this was preemptive self defense on the part of Russia. 289 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I had to admit I did not see that kind 290 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: of the thing coming when this broke out, and I 291 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: think a close second of that is the resiliency of 292 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian people. I knew that there would be resistance, 293 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: but I'm frankly impressed, largely being left alone by the 294 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: international community, of them being able to grind this out 295 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: against Russia. That I think has been a pleasant surprise. Hey, Steve, 296 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: it's buck. There's obviously been a lot of back and 297 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: forth last couple of days over the possible provision of 298 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: fighter of MiG fighter planes of Polish origin through Germany 299 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: via the US to Ukraine. So essentially they're handing US planes. 300 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: They would get new planes from US as part of 301 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: the initial pitch, and the older planes they have would 302 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: go to the Ukrainians to fight that has been scuttled 303 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: for now by the Biden administration. How do you analyze it? 304 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: Assess that? I mean, is it a provocation? Is it 305 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: a good idea? Would it change much in this battle? 306 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, I think there's 307 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: been some terrible fumbling by the Biden administration in terms 308 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: of handling an ally like Poland in this In general, 309 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a good principle to help others help themselves. 310 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 1: I think that's what the United States should be doing 311 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: with Europe without our being the front of it. It's 312 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 1: what other Europeans should be doing for the Ukrainians right now. 313 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: And so if the people of Poland want to provide 314 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: material assistance, the United States shouldn't say no, And it 315 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: shouldn't really be seen as a provocation anymore than say, 316 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: putin invading and neighboring sovereign country is. I don't think 317 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: it was really that much of a status quo breaker, 318 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:54,400 Speaker 1: And I thought it was really really awkward for Team 319 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: Biden to kind of say you can or maybe you can, 320 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: and then sort of pull it right back. It was 321 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: just able all the way around. Would the planes make 322 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: a difference, though, Stephen, I do think the planes would 323 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: make a difference. I think the Ukrainians need all the 324 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: material they can get at this point number one, to 325 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: give them confidence to keep going with their resistance. Number two, 326 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: maybe that would have the potential to change prudence calculus. 327 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: If he sees that Europe is serious about protecting Europe, 328 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: then fundamentally that gets at what's at the heart of this, 329 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: which is Russia's relationship with Europe and Europe's response to 330 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: both the energy dependency and the security problem. Steve, how 331 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: long does this go on? Right? I mean, we have 332 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: what appears to be almost a siege like situation going 333 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: on with Kiev as they are slowly encircling the city 334 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,239 Speaker 1: to strangle it down. It seems the Russians. Is this 335 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: something that we're sitting right now in March, in April, May, 336 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: and June, this is still going on? Or based on 337 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: what you are seeing, is there going to be a 338 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 1: resolution sooner than that? Well, sadly, we're really in seventh 339 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: an eight year of a war already, and so we're 340 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: just catching one act of this drama at this point. 341 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: This current version of it I think could break a 342 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: number of different ways. Every once in a while, Vadimir 343 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Putin suggests he's looking for a way to kind of 344 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: consolidate his gains and sort of sue for some semblance 345 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: of peace. But Ukrainians need some kind of security guarantee 346 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: that is not coming from NATO, is not coming from 347 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: the United States, and so absent that I think they 348 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: keep grinding this out for a long time, which I 349 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: think is very upsetting to a lot of people, rightly so. 350 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: But I just don't see a way around that unless 351 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 1: something really breaks. Speaking of Steve Yate's former deputy National 352 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: Security Advisor and Vice President Dick Cheney and also founder 353 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: of the America First in Policy Institute, Steve the putent 354 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: goal here is it strangle Kiev, take half the country 355 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: and make it part of the Russian Federation after negotiations 356 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: with a eaten down Zelenski government sees the whole country, 357 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: and then suppress any insurgency. What do you think? What 358 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: do you think Putin's endgame is? My going in proposition 359 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: was that he was just seeking to knock the legs 360 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: out from under the current government and install a puppet 361 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: and would be happy having a friendly and reliable sphere 362 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: of influence at his buffer. I think that calculus has 363 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,360 Speaker 1: changed by getting bloodied through this, and I think he's 364 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 1: now trying to push for more maximalist options of actually 365 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: controlling Ukraine all of its territory outright. The only real 366 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: question is whether enough of a deterrent can be put 367 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: in place and whether sanctions actually bite, which I don't 368 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: think they're strategically biting sufficiently yet to change his calculus 369 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: to just accept where he has taken territory and call today, 370 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 1: do you think Steve, that Putin would be willing to 371 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: use tactical nukes based on what we are seeing so far, 372 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: or do you think that threat is more bark than 373 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 1: it is bite. How do we analyze his perspective here, 374 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: given that many of his decisions seem to have surprised 375 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: the so called experts so far. Well, I think that's 376 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: the real challenge, that everything has been a surprise to 377 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: the intelligence set so far. And I think that there's 378 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 1: no question that he is willing to do things. I mean, 379 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: he's been willing to assassinate and poison foreign leaders, He's 380 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: been willing to spread all kinds of noxious things in 381 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: the system, and he is of course collaborating with the 382 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: People's Republic of China, which unleased the toxic virus out 383 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: into the world for two years, so I don't think 384 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: we can count on their sense of humanity or restraint. 385 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: There's been talk of tactical nuclear weapons openly for a 386 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Now. I'd like to believe that wouldn't happen, 387 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: but I think we have to be very, very prepared 388 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: for all outcomes at this point. Stephen, what would you 389 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: advise the Biden administration to do right now if you 390 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 1: were back in the kind of role you were on 391 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: the Bush administration. Number one, First, do no harm. Let 392 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: others who want to help the Ukrainians the way they choose, 393 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: go and go forward and do it. Number Two, I 394 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: think you find a way to press the Europeans to 395 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: go much further, much faster on realigning their dependency relationships 396 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: and in their defense capabilities. Because America has big challenges 397 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 1: in other parts of the world too. It cannot afford 398 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: to carry Europe's weight when Europe can afford to carry 399 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: it itself. Outstanding stuff. Where do you see as I 400 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: guess last question. I know predicting is so incredibly difficult 401 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,919 Speaker 1: to do, but if you are based on looking at 402 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: all the data right now trying to analyze it. Where 403 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: are we going from here over the next couple of weeks. Well, 404 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: with regard to Russia Ukraine, I think we're pushing toward 405 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: a moment a possible decision about is a deal to 406 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: be had and our serious leader is going to come 407 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: to the table and try to impose one that gives 408 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians some real sense of security and gets a Moscow. 409 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: It's guarantees that it seeks. That's an ugly deal when 410 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: no one really wants, but that might be the only 411 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: way that this military conflict takes at least a pause. 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Yeah, thank you for having me 436 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: on so Florida this was the story just a couple 437 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: of days ago, will be the first state to officially 438 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: recommend against the COVID nineteen vaccines for healthy children. Doctor Latipo, 439 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: tell us why how you came to this conclusion and 440 00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: what you've seen in response from the medical community. Yeah, 441 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, this is one that all of our grandmothers 442 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: can understand it. I mean it's very simple. We're faced 443 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: in react as we've been, you know, basically tantrums and 444 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: people um just unhappy with what we said, but not 445 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: putting much thought into the reason why we said it. 446 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very simple. You know, you have we 447 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: have a country where we almost most healthy children have 448 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: already had COVID nineteen. They have immunity. There's no data 449 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,400 Speaker 1: that says that these kids benefit from the vaccine. So 450 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: you have a population that's already low risk. They're even 451 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: I mean they're stupendously low risk if they've already had 452 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen. So you're you're basically committing them to risk 453 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: with no evidence of benefit. And for what for and 454 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: for what reason? Because everyone's got to get the shot. 455 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: No thanks, you know, that's not that's not how you 456 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: make good decisions. You think about, you know, the people 457 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: that your figure decisions effect. Talk to a lot of 458 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: post claytor Ivis appreciate you joining us and the work 459 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: that you're doing. A surgeon general down in Florida, So 460 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: I've got a fourteen year old and eleven year old 461 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: and a seven year old. I looked at all the data. 462 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: I think they probably have had COVID, since my wife 463 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and I have both had it, but the data doesn't 464 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 1: reflect that they should get it. Based on what I 465 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,719 Speaker 1: have done my own research and based on the doctors 466 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: that I've talked to, I believe you have children as well. 467 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I like to not only 468 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: get the opinion of officials in their official capacity, you're 469 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: also a parent. I'm assuming you're making the same choice 470 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: for your kids as you would be advising other people. 471 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: I think that's significant because a lot of people don't 472 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: trust you unless you say, hey, I've got kids too, 473 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: and I'm telling them to do the same thing, because 474 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: there is an innate understanding that every parent out there 475 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: is looking out for their kids the best. So I'm curious. 476 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: I believe you have young kids as well. What are 477 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: you doing with those kids, and how would you consider 478 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: this not only as a doctor, but also as a parent. 479 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, hey, we're in a similar club. Your 480 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: kids are a little older. I've got three wonderful boys, eight, 481 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: five and three years old. For all the money in 482 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: the world, I would never give them one of these vaccines. 483 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's even it's just silly. I mean, 484 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure they've had it. My kids have been out 485 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: and about since the beginning of the pandemic in the 486 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: spring of twenty twenty. And you know, and while you know, 487 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: limited benefit or no benefit, basically unknown benefit is one 488 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: part of the equation. The other part of the equation 489 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: is the risk. And people like to pretend like we 490 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: know everything there is to know. That's a flat lie. 491 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: We will continue to learn things about the safety of 492 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: these vaccines, just as we have over the past several months. 493 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: And you know, unfortunately, so many scientists and doctors are 494 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: pretending that what's happening really is that they've decided their position, 495 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: and their position is that every kid should get this, 496 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: and then they just sort of pick and choose which, 497 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, which data points they want to use to 498 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: support that. And it's completely ridiculous. You know, so all 499 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: the money in the world, I never would I would 500 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: never give some new products to my kids, particularly when 501 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,360 Speaker 1: they're incredibly low risk and almost certainly wouldn't benefit. Well, 502 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: I appreciate you telling us that, and I'm curious. I 503 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: know that you were at UCLA when all of this began. 504 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: I believe so based on what I've been reading, and 505 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: that the way that California was shutting down was very 506 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: frustrating to you and your life in terms of having 507 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: those three young boys and wanting them to be able 508 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: to be out and about running around. They got a 509 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: lot of energy, as anybody who's had three young kids knows. 510 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: What has your experience been, not only as a doctor, 511 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: but just as a parent moving from California to now 512 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: live in Florida. Oh, it's been true. I mean it's 513 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: been fantastic. You know. We had our you know, the 514 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: school shut down in LA and so we had our 515 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: kids home. We did the best we could with the 516 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: remote learning, which was you know, really it hurt the 517 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: hurt the poor kids the most. So it hurt the 518 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: black kids and kids who were Hispanic, and they did 519 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: it willfully, you know, and they kept the schools shut. 520 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: We did the best we could for our kids. When 521 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: the next school year started and they said, okay, the 522 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: kids can come back, but we're going to test you, 523 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, twice a week and force you to wear 524 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: a mask. My wife and I were like, not in this, 525 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, not in this universe. So we we didn't 526 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 1: we didn't reenroll them and you know, fortunately we were 527 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: just starting with kind of a home school with some 528 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: like minded parents and uh fortunately that's when that's when 529 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: I got the call from the Governor's office. So um, 530 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: so you know, it's been great here. They go to school, 531 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: they have fun, they get to be kids, they're not 532 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: worried about something they don't need to be worried about um, 533 00:29:55,680 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: and they're happy friends. You know, sports, U how kids 534 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: should be, not this ridiculous you know, sort of prison 535 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: system school, you know, testing mask and stay away from 536 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: other kids that you know that some people in the 537 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: country are trying to normalize. Speaking of doctor Joseph Latipo, 538 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: the surgeon General of the State of Florida, Doctor Latipo, 539 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: you guys did not have a mask mandate in schools 540 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: over the last year or so, or certainly this past 541 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,719 Speaker 1: school year. I should say, what can you tell us 542 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the data on this, because this is 543 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: still I just saw another study I think it was 544 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: yesterday that's in preprint that's claiming that masks reduced cases 545 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: something like seventy five percent. They mean, you actually look 546 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: at the study, it's well, it didn't reduce cases, but 547 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: they said it based on modeling reduced secondary cases, which 548 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: how they get that, Well, it's a computer model. You 549 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: can't question it. What data do you have to answer 550 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: the question definitively whether MASK mandates in schools are an 551 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: effective protective measure. No, Well, basically there's none. So you know, 552 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: in terms of the highest quality evidence we have about 553 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: mask use, you look at the randomized clinical trials and 554 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: even the ones that have been done during the pandemic, 555 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: and basically they either find no benefit or a very 556 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: small benefit. And none of the randomized clinical trials that 557 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: have been done during the pandemic have found any benefit, 558 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: zerro nothing and young people. So it's it's it's it's 559 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: just it's really a belief system in terms of the 560 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: MASK mandates and schools. And I'll tell you. I mean, 561 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: one of the studies that the CDC talented is supporting 562 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: it basically was taken down by the Atlantic, which you 563 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: know is a left leaning is a left cleaning outlet. 564 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: Just so many holes in the study, so many data errors, 565 00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: methodological errors, statements that were essentially false in the the study, 566 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: poor control groups. I mean, it really is sort of 567 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: this I don't know, it's like this crusade and it's 568 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: just not founded in data. We're talking to doctor Joseph 569 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: Latipoe's the surgeon general of the State of Florida. I'm 570 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: curious medically, not not your just opinions as a logical 571 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: human being, but medically State of the Union address, Joe 572 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Biden and virtually every member of Congress senator or congressman, 573 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: almost none of them are wearing masks. And yet the 574 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: Biden administration came out yesterday and told us we have 575 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: at least thirty more days of needing to wear masks 576 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: and on airplanes and in airports. Is there any medical 577 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: basis at all to explain why it's safe for everyone 578 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: to not have masks at the State of the Union, 579 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: but it's unsafe for us to be not wearing masks 580 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: on airplanes. Well, let's just say you can add it 581 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: to the long list of things make no sense, but 582 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: public health leaders and political leaders have insisted needed to 583 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: be done. You know, whether it's like you sit down 584 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: and you eat, you can take your mask off, but 585 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you walk to the restaurant, walk to the bathroom in 586 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: the restaurant, you put it back on. I mean, it's 587 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 1: just a lot of nonsense. And you know, a lot 588 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: of Americans, I think are have woken up to that, 589 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: and I just I hope everyone does. I mean, this 590 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: is it's just been a complete sham, these um measures 591 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 1: that have been taken without really any substantial basis and evidence. 592 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: And people have had two years, you know, I mean, 593 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: roll out the good evidence if you've got it. If not, 594 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: please stop advocating for these, you know, these burdens and policies. Doctor, 595 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: a lot of poe. Do you have a lot of 596 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 1: physicians that you know personally or or just you know 597 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: through the professional professional world that come to you and say, 598 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: I've kind of known all along that this fauciite madness 599 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: was anti scientific crap, but I was too scared to 600 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: say anything. I thought they come after my license. I mean, 601 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: are you coming across a lot of doctors who were saying, 602 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: now I was wrong. I should have agreed with you. 603 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: And I'm just wondering within the medical community, some of 604 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: us have been wondering why there are so few doctors 605 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: who are really to speak out about what is so 606 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: plainly obvious now and has been for a long time. Yeah, 607 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: it's a it's a good old cancelation theater. You know, docs, 608 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you're not independently wealthy, you depend on 609 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: your medical practice to um, you know, to provide an 610 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: income from your family. Well, when CNN and NBC and 611 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: CBS and the dean of your you know, medical school 612 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: and whatever other health leaders are saying like, you know, 613 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: you got to wear the mask. You gotta do this, 614 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be bad, even when the evidence saysn't support it. 615 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: You know, people want to People want to want to 616 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: be able to put food on the table, pay for 617 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,520 Speaker 1: the mortgage and you know, and avoid the you know, 618 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: being called mean names by journalists. I mean, I think 619 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: that's that's the main that's the main reason. You know, 620 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: for me, it was not enough. I mean it just 621 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: so many things were so wrong and the stakes were 622 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: so high. And I go back to the kids and 623 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: these these uh lockdowns and keeping them out of school. 624 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's going to reverberate for decades. And we 625 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: knew that was no mystery and what do you expect 626 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: this is that's what happens when you cut people children 627 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: off from a critical part of their development and their 628 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 1: safety and their security. UM So, I think, you know, 629 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 1: the cancelation theater is has been quite powerful in silencing 630 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: doctors who who know that the things that we're doing 631 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: don't make sense. It's interesting, doctor Lattipope, and we appreciate 632 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 1: the time you're giving us. We know how busy you are. 633 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: You laughed when I asked the question about the state 634 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: of the union. Nobody wears masks and then bringing it 635 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: back for airplanes. It is so ridiculous, I think to 636 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400 Speaker 1: the vast majority of people who are listening to us 637 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: right now, millions of people all over the country. But 638 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: how do we end the mask of mandate? Right? Because 639 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: bucket mind's concern, and I'm sure this is something you 640 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: worry about too, is even the places that are dialing 641 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: back use of masks now are saying that they're able 642 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: to do it, but they could bring them back. Remember 643 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: they took them away from us and said you don't 644 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: have to wear masks in May of last year, and 645 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: then they brought them back throughout the rest of the 646 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: summer and the fall. How do we end this once 647 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: and for all, you know, That's the thing that's on 648 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: my mind. I think that's something that's on Governor De 649 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: Santis's mind also. And my hope is that we can 650 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: provide enough education to people so that they just stopped 651 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: participating in this silly these silly, silly games. It's it's 652 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. It's ludicrous, you know, and I just you know, 653 00:36:56,239 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: if we don't participate, there's nothing that can be done. 654 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: And that's what should happen, because the evidence just isn't there. 655 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Joseph Latipo, Secretary Surgeon General, pardon me, Surgeon General 656 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: for the State of Florida. Sarah, thanks so much for 657 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: being with us. Appreciate it all right. Thanks. Online identity 658 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: thieves are the men and women hiding behind keyboards that 659 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: find a way to steal your online data. The good 660 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: ones are brilliant at stealing large company databases that contain 661 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: your information. 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Lines are open, so if you want 685 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: to call in and chat with us eight hundred two 686 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: eight two two eight a two phone number. And you 687 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,359 Speaker 1: had President Biden address the country, address the world this 688 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: morning on the issue of Ukraine provoking Most Favored Nations 689 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: status with Rush, We're gonna dive into all of the 690 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: latest on the Ukraine. Later on, I'm gonna have a 691 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: conversation with our friends Stephen Yates, former deputy National Security 692 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,959 Speaker 1: advisor to Dick Cheney, Vice President Cheney under the Bush administration. 693 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk to him a bit about this issue. 694 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 1: And then later on third hour, as we have promised 695 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: you all along, part of our mission here is we're 696 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: not going to allow this pretend that COVID mandates and 697 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: lockdowns and mask policies didn't happen. Thing that the Democrats 698 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 1: seem to be trying right now. We're not just going 699 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: to walk away from this. There's still things happening, there's 700 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: still data to crunch, there's still numbers to look at, 701 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: and we will certainly be doing all of that with 702 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,240 Speaker 1: you in the third hour, with Alex Barrens and joining 703 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: us and doctor Joseph Latipo, the surgeon General for the 704 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 1: State of Florida. So a lot of COVID deep dive 705 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 1: coming your way in the and it's really mandate and 706 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,240 Speaker 1: lockdown deep dive coming your way in the third hour, 707 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: So get ready for that. We have the end. It 708 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: seems of a long running side maga though that Clay 709 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: and I wanted to address with you for a moment. 710 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: Here the Jesse small At case has finally come to 711 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:14,760 Speaker 1: a judicial conclusion. Jesse Smalleett's gonna spend over a hundred 712 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: days in prison. We're gonna take a look at whether 713 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: that's a fair sentence or not, just momentarily. But here 714 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: is what Remember this, Jesse Smallett. The guys yelled this 715 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: is Maga country, and they poured bleach on him and 716 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,280 Speaker 1: put a noose around his neck. And then he walked 717 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,120 Speaker 1: home with the new still on because he was getting 718 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: a sandwich on the streets of Chicago at two o'clock 719 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: in the morning, in the middle of winter. It was 720 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: like thirty degrees outside and two guys wearing Maga hats 721 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,439 Speaker 1: or yelling this is Maga country or whatever. He made 722 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: it up so it doesn't even matter. Yeah, and the Democrats, 723 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,240 Speaker 1: including Kamala Harris and Joe Biden themselves freaked out about 724 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: this national news story. Big deal. Here is the judge saying, yeah, 725 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: you're a liar and you're into prison. I'm fashioning the 726 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: following sentence. And here's your sentence, the sentence seeing you 727 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: to thirty months, tell any probation and the probation is 728 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: going to be to this court. You're going to be 729 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: allowed to travel wherever you want. You do not have 730 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,120 Speaker 1: to live in the state of Illinois. You can report 731 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: by phone. I know that if you're going to try 732 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: to make a living and do some of the things 733 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: you do, you may have to go to other places 734 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,280 Speaker 1: in New York, in Los Angeles, you can do those things. 735 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: You will pay a restitution to the City of Chicago 736 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: in the amount of one hundred twenty one hundred six dollars. 737 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: You are fined twenty five thousand dollars, which is the 738 00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: maximum buying and you will spend the first one hundred 739 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: and fifty days of your sentence in the Cook County 740 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:46,760 Speaker 1: jail and that will start today, right here, right now. Clay, 741 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: is this justice? No? I look, I am glad that 742 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 1: the judge put him in jail for at least one 743 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty days five months whatever the map is there, 744 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: six months, depending on how exactly you classify it. But 745 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: I wanted, if you remember we talked about this, I 746 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: wanted him to get years in prison, and that would 747 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 1: have been in a very aggressive sentence. But I believe 748 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: what he did the way that he preyed upon American 749 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: media's obsession with race and victimization of race, and the 750 00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: degree to which he created further division at a time 751 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: of great division in this country. The consequences should have 752 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: been more significant than they were. I do appreciate the 753 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 1: fact that he's going to have to go to Cook 754 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: County jail. I think leading him out effectively in handcuffs 755 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 1: was significant. And even hearing Jesse Smollette, he tried to 756 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: throw up. Did you see the black power fist? As 757 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: he walked out. Listened to Jesse who immediately says, I'm 758 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: not suicidal. I'm not suicidal, which, by the way, sounds 759 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,800 Speaker 1: super strange because it sounds like something someone would say 760 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: if they were not mentally stable. Listen to this. I'm 761 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 1: not suicidal, Okay, I am not suicide. I am infant, 762 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,320 Speaker 1: and I am not suicide. If I did this, didn't 763 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: mean that sudden fit in the fears of Black Americans 764 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 1: in the susion, but over four hundred years and the 765 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: fears of the LGBTQ community. I respect you, and I 766 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: respect the Jersey, but I did not do this, and 767 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 1: I am not suicidal. And anything happens to me, but 768 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: I believe there I did not do it to myself 769 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: and you must all know that. Click. And I just 770 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: is it more offensive that he's claiming to be a 771 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: civil rights hero or that he's still saying he didn't 772 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: do it? I'm just well, like, which one to you 773 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: is more mind blowing? I? Well, both of them are 774 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,399 Speaker 1: equal parts offensive. And if I were a judge on 775 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: some level, when he started to say I didn't do it, 776 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: I would say, well, you are still not taking responsibility 777 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: for the consequences of your actions. So upon further reflection, 778 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: I am going to double your sentence and you are 779 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 1: now going to spend a full year in prison like 780 00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,880 Speaker 1: I wish, because look, part of deciding what the penalty 781 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,479 Speaker 1: is is analyzing whether there is in any way some 782 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,759 Speaker 1: degree of acknowledgement of wrongdoing right, whether there is a 783 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: form of remorse, whether you are apologizing for your actions 784 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 1: and acknowledging them. And when Jesse Smalette is still saying 785 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: I didn't do this, he is lying. He is delusional. 786 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that he throws up the black Power 787 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: fist as he walks out as if he is some 788 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 1: sort of martyr makes me want to put him in 789 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,919 Speaker 1: prison for longer and look the other thing I would 790 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 1: say here, Buck, and I think this is super significant. 791 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,279 Speaker 1: We hear all the time about how big tech is 792 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: trying to make sure that the truth is out there. 793 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: You know what's going on right now. Kamala Harris tweeted this, 794 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: and I think it's important to constantly because this ties 795 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: in with what Jesse Smalett was doing. He wasn't crazy 796 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: in the way that he diagnosed and recognized that if 797 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,960 Speaker 1: he were the victim of a crime like this, it 798 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: would be the best thing that ever happened to his career. 799 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: And what I would tell everybody out there is be 800 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: skeptical whenever something you don't control happens to you, and 801 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 1: it's the greatest thing that could ever happen to you. Right, 802 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: The best thing that could ever happen to Jesse Smalett's 803 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,160 Speaker 1: career was that he was a victim of an attempted 804 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: assault like this. Because it makes him a victim, it 805 00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: makes him more well known. And here's what Kamala Harris said, Buck, 806 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: Jesse Smollett is one of the kindest, most gentle human 807 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: beings I know. I'm praying for his quick recovery. These 808 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,399 Speaker 1: are still up these tweets. Buck, this is kamala. This 809 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,640 Speaker 1: was an attempted modern day lynching. No one should have 810 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: to fear for their life because of their sexuality or 811 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 1: the color of their skin. We must confront this hate, 812 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: no acknowledgement. Buck, You and I are getting tagged all 813 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 1: the time. Anytime we say masks don't work, Twitter police 814 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: immediately show up and try to give greater characterization of that. 815 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: That's still up. There's no note on it about how 816 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,160 Speaker 1: it's not true. Joe Biden tweeted what happened today to 817 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: Jesse Smalette must never be tolerated in this country. We 818 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 1: must stand up. We must stand up and demand we 819 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 1: no longer give this hate safe harbor, that homophobia and 820 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,240 Speaker 1: racism have no place on our streets or in our hearts. 821 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: We are with you, Jesse Clay. These are still up. 822 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 1: They're still up, and there's a reason for it. The 823 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: price that you have to be willing to pay for 824 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 1: wokeness is looking like a fool. That's actually part of 825 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: the obedience that is demanded of the woke. Perfect example, 826 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 1: men can get pregnant. You have to say that. You 827 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: sound like a moron when you say it, right, But 828 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: if you're gonna be woke, you got to say men 829 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 1: can get pregnant. And with Jesse, it didn't matter to 830 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,959 Speaker 1: the people who said it that it was all a lie. 831 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: They were expected to say it in the moment, and 832 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: they did. The leftist hive mind doesn't care about what's true. 833 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: Same with masking and all these other things we talk about. 834 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,759 Speaker 1: You are expected to be a part of the collective. 835 00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: You're expected to say what you're supposed to say in 836 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: the moment, and no one therefore afterwards on the left 837 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: will fault you for it because yeah, that was you. 838 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: It's almost like Biden and Common were under orders. There 839 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: is an identity politics narrative here. There's an opportunity to 840 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: bash what was this really about Donald Trump? All the 841 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: white nationalism? Yeah, all the stuff that they had all 842 00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,319 Speaker 1: the media been, Oh, here's the perfect case study of 843 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: Trump's white nationalism and the destruction of the country it's created. 844 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: The fact that it was a lie doesn't matter at all. 845 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,240 Speaker 1: The only problem from the perspective of Biden and Harris 846 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: is that it was so sloppy that anybody with an 847 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: IQ above that of a toaster not only knows now Clay, 848 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,480 Speaker 1: but really New pretty much right away. I mean, I 849 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 1: understand you never want to be caught in that one 850 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: outlier of like, I guess this happened thing, But I mean, 851 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,280 Speaker 1: I go, I've gone back and looked at my record 852 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 1: on this one first week of the Jesse Similette case. 853 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,319 Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy's lying. It was so obvious. I 854 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,080 Speaker 1: know you saw it is lying too. And do any 855 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: of the blue checks who got it wrong feel embarrassed, No, 856 00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: not at all. They did their part. Not only do 857 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,760 Speaker 1: they not feel embarrassed, they're not even taking down clearly 858 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: an accurate tweet. But all these social media sites that 859 00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 1: claim to care about misinformation and disinformation, they don't even 860 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: append an acknowledgement. Hey, by the way, this was a 861 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: total lie. Like I would be shamed into taking down 862 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: the tweet if I believe I were Kamala or Joe Biden. 863 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,400 Speaker 1: I also wouldn't anticipate that this is true the moment 864 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: you hear it again. I would just say this for everybody. 865 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: Any time a story like this happens and you go 866 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 1: back and you're like, man, would being a victim of 867 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,439 Speaker 1: a crime like this be the greatest thing that could 868 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: happen to anybody's career. If the answers yes, then we 869 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 1: should be skeptical that happened. I'll give you an example. Buck. 870 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: If you came in, uh, and you were like, hey, 871 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, well, let's take up a bunch of soy 872 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,319 Speaker 1: latte drinkers who have Chris Hayes t shirts on just 873 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: happened to try to try to, you know, slap fight 874 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,200 Speaker 1: me in front of the radio studio. You know you 875 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,239 Speaker 1: would know, right. I was just gonna say, take it 876 00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: outside of the world of like race, race crimes and 877 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 1: hoaxes and everything else. If your buddy, who usually had 878 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 1: trouble picking up girls, if if he came to you 879 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,840 Speaker 1: and he said, hey, You're never gonna believe what happened 880 00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: to me last night. I was just out at our 881 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,239 Speaker 1: normal bar. It was Tuesday night, and uh, you know, 882 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow walked in or whoever you want to be 883 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: that you know, like as hot. You know that your 884 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,319 Speaker 1: buddy may alike, Okay, who's the hottest girl you can 885 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,799 Speaker 1: think of? Right now? I don't even know. But it 886 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,759 Speaker 1: used to be there were maxim girls or sports illustrated 887 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,279 Speaker 1: swimsuit cover girls. Now there's like a billion of them 888 00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 1: on Instagram, and so I can't even keep up with 889 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: you know, like Pamela Anderson. If you're around my age, 890 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 1: people will be like, oh, Pamela Anderson, incredibly attractive Denise 891 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,239 Speaker 1: Richards back in the day, Like I feel like there 892 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 1: are so many Instagram models now that it's even hard 893 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,200 Speaker 1: to keep up with who the famous ones are. So 894 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: give me, give me a widely renowned, incredibly good looking woman. 895 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: Does it's hard, right? Just just go with the story. Yeah, so, 896 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 1: and he said, and this, and she hooked up with me. 897 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: She came over to me, she was like, hey, let 898 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: me buy a beer. Hey, do you guys, do you 899 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:31,840 Speaker 1: want to go do you want to hang out? Do 900 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,879 Speaker 1: you want to come back to my place? You would say, 901 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,640 Speaker 1: you know what, whatever your buddy's name is. I don't 902 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 1: think I buy this story, right. Maybe it's possible that 903 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: supermodels show up at this random bar that you, who 904 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: usually have trouble picking up any girls, suddenly get picked 905 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: up by this girl who's super famous and everybody wants 906 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,680 Speaker 1: to be with. And you guys went back to her 907 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: place like you wouldn't believe it, right, that would be 908 00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,839 Speaker 1: the best thing that could ever happen to that guy, 909 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 1: whoever the girl is that he's in love with. Why 910 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 1: would you believe Jesse Smolett when for his life that's 911 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 1: the best thing they could ever happen to him, And 912 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: so be skeptical. And you would be skeptical, And I 913 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: would be skeptical of your buddy who's trying to tell 914 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: you this story. And by the way, it might happen 915 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,240 Speaker 1: one in a million times that something like this could occur, 916 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,200 Speaker 1: and you would still never believe. But I just threw 917 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: out there to Clay on the skepticism point here Jose Smallett, 918 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: from what he said, his imaginary attackers, and as we know, 919 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:31,960 Speaker 1: it was actually the two Nigerian brothers and it was 920 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,439 Speaker 1: all stage but the imaginelationship with sexually which is even 921 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: crazier the imaginary Maga supporters. He talked about, It's as 922 00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:44,320 Speaker 1: though Jesse Smolette had never met a Trump voter, because 923 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 1: there is not a Trump voter in the entirety of 924 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 1: the United States of America. Who on the streets of 925 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: Chicago at two o'clock in the morning or one o'clock 926 00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:56,360 Speaker 1: in the morning would yale this is Maga country. Well 927 00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 1: that was how about know who Jesse Smallett is and 928 00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: know what his sexuality is? Like, how many Donald Trump 929 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:08,960 Speaker 1: supporters watch Empire know who Jesse small At is and 930 00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: then on top of that, know what his sexuality is. 931 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know who Jesse small At was. 932 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't watch Empire. I can't that there's like four 933 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: people who voted for Donald Trump and even fit that, 934 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 1: like if you kept doing the bid diagram. They were 935 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 1: wandering around the streets of Chicagoose allegedly just like trying 936 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: to find is the coldest night of the year, I 937 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: think in Chicago, just on the possible off chance that 938 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: they were going to run into Jesse small Att. I mean, 939 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: it's it's just a few steps away, folks from Jesse 940 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: small Att said, little green men came out of a 941 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: spacecraft wearing Trump hats and they attacked me. I mean, 942 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,480 Speaker 1: it's just completely nonsensical. And the sitting president and sitting 943 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,240 Speaker 1: vice president and ninety five percent of Blue check news 944 00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: media were like, oh my gosh, this is an atrocity. 945 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 1: By the way, I'm really disappointed that I can't even 946 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: come up with a girl like that's the world we 947 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,479 Speaker 1: live in now. Everybody's on Instagram. Back to my child 948 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:07,759 Speaker 1: like my like, you know, Team Crush was because she 949 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,200 Speaker 1: was my age on Seventh Heaven with remember that show 950 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: Jessica Bill, that was Jessica Bill was great. Yeah, Jessica 951 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: Bill back in the day, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera. There 952 00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: were all these girls you could point to. I don't 953 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,800 Speaker 1: even know who the girl like if you were twenty 954 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: four right now, who do you point to? I'm not 955 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:24,759 Speaker 1: even sure the answer. I mean, I'm too busy reading 956 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 1: history books, Clay I have. Yeah, well, that's maybe a 957 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 1: good sign. There are some strong voices in Washington, DC 958 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: saying smart things, but there aren't enough of them expressing 959 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 1: our thoughts and opinions. But AMAC is helping with that. 960 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: You know. AMAC, it's the Association of Mature American Citizens. 961 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,479 Speaker 1: AMACK has worked overtime and pushing back against the left. 962 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,600 Speaker 1: It's clear to both of us that they're in the fight, 963 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: and they're true believers. So many of the same conservative 964 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: values we have they share, believe in and fight for. 965 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,440 Speaker 1: Our nation faces unprecedented challenges from election integrity and censorship 966 00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:59,640 Speaker 1: to vaccine passports, mass mandates, and border security. The liberal 967 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,960 Speaker 1: response to adversity is always to strike down individual liberty 968 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: and implement more government. Clay and I are members of AMAC. 969 00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: We joined to support their efforts and we're glad to 970 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,240 Speaker 1: be able to speak of them here on the show. 971 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: AMAC offers members exclusive benefits, a great magazine, and most importantly, 972 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,680 Speaker 1: a strong conservative voice on Capitol Hill. You're not alone. 973 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,879 Speaker 1: Stand with AMAC and us by joining today at AMAC 974 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: dot us slash freedom. That's am AC dot us slash freedom. 975 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: Join AMAC today. Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. 976 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,160 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Final segment 977 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: of the week, but you can take us wherever you 978 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,960 Speaker 1: may be going. I know spring break season is officially underway. 979 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,240 Speaker 1: I'm down here in Florida with my kids. Spring break 980 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: getting underway. And also I know a lot of you 981 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,880 Speaker 1: are listening and watching to a variety of different sporting 982 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: events here as March mad Although Buck has never filled 983 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:02,839 Speaker 1: out a bracket, and we'll talk about that in a moment, 984 00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: is officially underway and will be Sunday the bracket will 985 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: actually be unveiled. I want to hit you with one 986 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: detail we talked earlier about RHN de Santa standing up 987 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: to Disney, the CEO of Disney has now fired back 988 00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: Bob Chappock and this is turning into a bigger battle. 989 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 1: He has apologized to his employees for not being aggressive 990 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,879 Speaker 1: enough on this Florida bill and Disney has ended all 991 00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: political donations to all politicians I think in the state 992 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: of Florida, to which many of you would likely say 993 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: good ridden. So that story may continue to build. We'll 994 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,520 Speaker 1: see what happens as we head into the weekend. But 995 00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,319 Speaker 1: one of the things we're going to start doing now 996 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,120 Speaker 1: on Fridays for our VIP members out there who are 997 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,520 Speaker 1: we appreciated by the way, You can go sign up 998 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,880 Speaker 1: for the VIP at Clay and Buck dot com. You 999 00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,400 Speaker 1: can get all access to a lot of cool VIP 1000 00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,120 Speaker 1: related endeavors as part of our twenty four seven network, 1001 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 1: including some videos of Bucking Eye behind the scenes doing 1002 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: the show. A lot of people writing any emails with 1003 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:11,280 Speaker 1: questions Buck, and many people were reacting to you saying 1004 00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,400 Speaker 1: that you couldn't drink beer because of celiac disease, and 1005 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 1: evidently there's lots of beer out there that people can consume. 1006 00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 1: Lisa wrote in remember if you go to Klanbuck dot 1007 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: com become a subscriber, you can send us. Mailbag Friday 1008 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:25,880 Speaker 1: is now a thing. We might come up with a 1009 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,080 Speaker 1: cooler name. I don't know. I kind of like that name. 1010 00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: It gets right to it, you know. Mailbag Friday always delivers, 1011 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 1: So you could write into us and we'll read it 1012 00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,840 Speaker 1: here on air. On Friday's Lisa writes, I also have Celiac. 1013 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 1: I've had it for eleven years. Was a former beer lover. 1014 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: You should try Omission. It is real beer with the 1015 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: gluten removed. The owner of the company has Ciliac as well, 1016 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,200 Speaker 1: and we've got a top four list Omission Beer Light, 1017 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:55,399 Speaker 1: pale ale Ipa, and Lagger. Glutenberg is apparently a thing. 1018 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,320 Speaker 1: Redbridge and Greens a lot of gluten free beers. I 1019 00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:01,359 Speaker 1: will tell you I have tried gluten free. Doesn't work 1020 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: for you. It is not very good. And maybe maybe 1021 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: I'm admitting also I was never I don't know, I 1022 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: was never that into beer. I was associated with drinking 1023 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,440 Speaker 1: it out of a keg in a red Solo cup 1024 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,480 Speaker 1: when I was in college. That was that was all 1025 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: we drank. It was very cold at Amherst. Everybody was 1026 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: very inebriated. That's what was going on. What we're finding 1027 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: out here is that things that almost everyone in the 1028 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,800 Speaker 1: Clay and Buck audience loves and does regularly. Buck has 1029 00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: never done football game, college football, huge overlap beer, drink 1030 00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:37,040 Speaker 1: beer for thirty years, time beer, and never filled out 1031 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: a bracket, which leads us to this question from William 1032 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: in Sacramento. Says, Hey, Clay and Buck next football season 1033 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,360 Speaker 1: or even March madness, it would be great if you 1034 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: developed a team approach to football picks team Buck, team Clay, 1035 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: where Buck could utilize the sports wisdom of listeners and 1036 00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 1: even staff such as Mark. It's sad that my sixteen 1037 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: and eleven year old daughters would out pick Buck for 1038 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:07,600 Speaker 1: any sports. Just throwing elbows on a second there, William 1039 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:13,960 Speaker 1: from Sacramento. My sports and international soccer club knowledge of tenet, 1040 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,960 Speaker 1: of soccer rather and of tennis is actually better than 1041 00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:21,120 Speaker 1: most teenagers, I will have you know. But for yeah, 1042 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: the big American sports, I probably needle up producer. I mean, 1043 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure dub is great producer, Mark, who was my 1044 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 1: EP for years. He's a sports fanatic man. So I 1045 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: got I've got a ringer in the background. Clay, you 1046 00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 1: guys better watch out. I might surprise you. So the 1047 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,960 Speaker 1: brackets will come out Buck on Sunday. By Monday, when 1048 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: we come back to join everyone at twelve Eastern, we 1049 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: will have a bracket in front of you and you 1050 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 1: can begin your research. Head to head. Me versus Buck. 1051 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm a longtime college basketball fan. I filled out brackets 1052 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: for thirty five or thirty six years in a row. 1053 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 1: Buck has never filled out an NC DOUBAA tournament bracket. 1054 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: We're going head to head. We're gonna see who can win. 1055 00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: The excited for the stakes or burgers that you'll be 1056 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: buying for the New York staff here when I come 1057 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: out victorious with my first ever bracket, I'm just excited 1058 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,560 Speaker 1: the fact that I could actually walk into a New 1059 00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,919 Speaker 1: York restaurant for the first time in a long time 1060 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: starting on Monday. They're not going to require me to 1061 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,959 Speaker 1: show my non existent vaccine card.