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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, It's Tuesday, July twenty nine, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where attentions kind

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Speaker 1: of split at the moment. It's me and your man,

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Speaker 1: NAMG Marcus Grand joined by Michael F. Florio no LaQuan Jones.

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Speaker 1: Today he is doing research for the network for a

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Speaker 1: inside training camp. So I don't know, maybe we can

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Speaker 1: tacking text him and tap in see if you can

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Speaker 1: give us some information about what's going on or something

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Speaker 1: that'd be fun.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna find the six thring string running back and

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Speaker 2: be like, this is someone you need to add to

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Speaker 2: your to your watch list right now.

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Speaker 1: This is primetime for RB three right now. For sure.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I say that we are a little bit

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Speaker 1: distracted at the moment because Florio and I a LaQuan actually,

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Speaker 1: for that matter, we are all right now doing a

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Speaker 1: live mock draft. Our friend Andrew Cooper over at Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Alarm is doing a super Flex month draft. He's going

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Speaker 1: to be riding about it, so keep your eye out.

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Speaker 1: If you don't follow him, you should absolutely do that

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Speaker 1: across social media platforms. So we agreed to be in

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Speaker 1: the monk. It's happening at this exact time. We said

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Speaker 1: we might talk about it a little bit. We may

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Speaker 1: talk about it on occasion throughout this pod. But if

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Speaker 1: one of us pauses awkwardly in the middle of a sentence,

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Speaker 1: it's probably because we are on the clock. In fact,

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Speaker 1: we are what We're in the third round right now.

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Speaker 1: Who have you taken? And you're with your first two picks?

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Speaker 2: H I'm on deck with my third. But it's a

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Speaker 2: super flex, so pick Look, pick three is the pick

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Speaker 2: you want in a super flex in my opinion, because

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Speaker 2: I think there's a clear cut top three. And oh

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Speaker 2: I just got sniped. I wanted aj Brown, so I'll

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Speaker 2: take let So I took Josh Allen at three. He

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Speaker 2: fell to three. Uh, and then I took Devon a Chen,

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Speaker 2: who I love at the end of round two. And

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take very polarizing player on this show,

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Speaker 2: Glad McConkie, with my third.

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Speaker 1: Overall, all right, all right, and you are You said

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Speaker 1: you're picking from the third spots, So yeah, I am

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Speaker 1: picking from the eighth spot. So by the time it

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Speaker 1: came around to me, and you know, no surprise in

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Speaker 1: a superflex, most of the top quarterbacks were gone. So

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Speaker 1: instead at the number eight pick, I went with Jean Robinson, who,

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Speaker 1: by the way, we have learned officially it is bijon.

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Speaker 1: It is not bijon. It does not rhyme with a

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Speaker 1: type of mustard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I will apologize in advance that bijon is going

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Speaker 2: to slip out of my mouth at least a couple

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Speaker 2: of times this preseason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure a lot of folks are gonna have

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Speaker 1: to readjust at that. So but I took Bejon Robinson

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Speaker 1: with the number eight pick, and then on the return

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Speaker 1: the fifth pick in the second round, I was like, well,

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Speaker 1: I got to get at least one quarterback before the

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Speaker 1: first two rounds are up. So I took Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 1: and I am two picks away trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: So laquant team is very lakwan.

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Speaker 1: I saw you just took Tyreek.

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Speaker 2: Hill in the things Joe Burrow bo Nick's Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's one hundred percent of.

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Speaker 2: You could have guessed it by covering up the names.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, So there you go. So we'll

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Speaker 1: kind of keep you updated on kind of what are

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Speaker 1: what is happening, what things are going on, uh in

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Speaker 1: this in this mock draft as we continue, but be

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Speaker 1: sure to go follow Andrew Cooper if you don't already

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Speaker 1: at Fantasy Alarm once this is over. He's gonna do

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Speaker 1: a big ride up on sort of what happened, and

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Speaker 1: you know, you can kind of get the taste of

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Speaker 1: but a lot of interesting names here, Dave Klugy, Mike Fayelah,

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Speaker 1: Jagger may Yeah, a lot of a lot of really

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Speaker 1: interesting people. Uh in. Andrew Erickson also in this draft

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Speaker 1: as well. Oh I'm on the clock now, So do

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Speaker 1: I take my second quarterback and just be done with

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Speaker 1: gonna get my second quarterback. I'm gonna take Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah you can't. I mean you can't go wrong there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know what, there's another name there and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm happy about you and NLQ of two

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Speaker 1: You guys, yeah, yeah, all right, this could That would

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Speaker 1: be a very Florio team if you if you got him.

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Speaker 1: We are talking today about offenses that maybe we're avoiding,

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Speaker 1: we've got football like substance coming up this week. We

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the Chargers and Lions kind of in

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Speaker 2: from the Bills standpoint, like they have like seven or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So Xavier Worthy appeared to be shaken up again.

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Speaker 2: Where are you like? Look, I love them. The leak

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So right now I'm choosing to not freak out

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Speaker 1: NFL networks ian Rappaport reporting that it could be an

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Speaker 1: game against the Los Angeles Rams. I'm with this news.

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Speaker 1: that's going to affect ADP. How far do you think

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Speaker 1: he's going to fall down draft boards at this point?

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Speaker 2: I wish we had Lakwan here today because Lakwan has

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Speaker 2: been the Joe Mixon believer on this show. But looking

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Speaker 2: at his ADP before he got hurt. He was. I'm

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Speaker 2: in like the fifth round.

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Speaker 2: I guess is probably where I expect his ADP to settle.

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Speaker 2: But maybe this is just me being like I already

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Speaker 2: was kind of out on mixing. But injury history, plus

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Speaker 2: missed like four games last season. I have concerns, big

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Speaker 2: concerns with Joe Mixon because it's not like this is

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Speaker 2: Like the Texans have admitted that this has been going

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Speaker 1: Right, And I think that sort of sums up debo right,

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Speaker 1: Cooper over at Fantasy Alarm. We are about midway through

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Speaker 3: Insane because I was sitting there, like eight picks away like,

433
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: there's six running backs I'm good with here, and they

434
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: none of them made it to me. Yeah, if you

435
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: want to go through the run, it was Javonte Williams,

436
00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: DeAndre Swift, James Connor. I took Isaiah pa check O,

437
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 3: Chuba Hubb went right after that. JJ McCarthy breaks up

438
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 3: the run. But then you get R. J.

439
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: Harvey and Trevion Henderson before Florio takes TJ. Hawkinson. So yeah,

440
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: just an insane running back string there. In the sixth round,

441
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 1: we finished up the first segment talking about the Saints offense.

442
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: Whether or not Jake Hanner does get a real shot

443
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,719
Speaker 1: at quarterback remains to be seen. What does that mean

444
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: for the regular season. I think it's way too early

445
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: to be able to tell. But I finished with that

446
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,720
Speaker 1: on purpose because wanted to get into offense is that

447
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: we aren't really super excited about. In fact, I made

448
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: the title of this show most Scariest Fantasy Offenses parentheses derogatory.

449
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 2: Because emphasize right, like they're.

450
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: Not scary and like, oh my goodness, there's so many weapons,

451
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: like what are we gonna do? This is like scary,

452
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,200
Speaker 1: as in, like I don't want to draft these guys

453
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: because this could sink my year. But let's start it

454
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: with the Saints, right, because you know they had that

455
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: explosion the first two weeks of the season where they

456
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: scored like ninety one points and then it was a

457
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: slog the rest of the year. With this group, now

458
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 1: they're going through major quarterback changes, They've overhauled a lot

459
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: of things. The expectation is this team is going to

460
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: be bad this year. But is there somebody there in

461
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: New Orleans that you can look at and say, you

462
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: know what, I can make a really strong case for

463
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: drafting him. Not just a hey, I'll take him at

464
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 1: ADP or if he falls in my lap. Just a

465
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,280
Speaker 1: guy that you're like, hey, look I will I would

466
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: be proud to tell you that I have this player

467
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,199
Speaker 1: on my team. There is not.

468
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: Mine is solely the first reason he said, because of

469
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: the ADP. And that's CRUs O lave. Because my thinking is, like, look, one,

470
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: I'm avoiding this Saint like I like Kellen Moore as

471
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 2: a play caller, but it's possible we see all three

472
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: quarterbacks play this year, and like I was talking about

473
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 2: last segment, that could be a headache for fantasy purposes.

474
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 2: But the one thing I feel good about, and then

475
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,160
Speaker 2: you can make a case Alvin Kamara, right, but he's

476
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: at that age cliff where any year could be the

477
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: year that he falls off, and he was starting to

478
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: approach that before last season, which gives me pause. So

479
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 2: the thing I feel best about is that one he's

480
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: healthy and out there, Chris Olave will be the top

481
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: target for the Saints. What will that look like? Probably

482
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 2: a lot of inconsistencies, but at ADP of wide receiver

483
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 2: thirty four right now, where this is a guy that

484
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: for years was going as a top twelve wide receiver,

485
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: going as a first or second round pick. Like last year.

486
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 2: I remember we were all arguing, I is he worth

487
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 2: a second round pick and stuff? Now you're getting him

488
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 2: rounds later. At look at the wide receivers going right

489
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: after him. It's like Juwan Jennings, Jordan Addison, Deebo, Samuel

490
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy. I could argue that he brings Alave brings

491
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: the most upside maybe outside of Juwan Jennings. I can

492
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: make an easy argument that he brings the most upside

493
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: of those receivers in his immediate range. So at that cost,

494
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 2: it's not a I'm proud to have him on my team.

495
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: It's more like a there's there's still some upside here

496
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 2: to reduce costs.

497
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: All right, that's fair. I think Olave is kind of

498
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: the guy you know he's gonna go earlier. I would

499
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: say the three earliest guys are gonna be Alvin Kamara,

500
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 1: who like, look, it could be great, this could be

501
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: the year it all falls apart. Who knows for Kamara?

502
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: Do you find yourself targeting him?

503
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, Yes, I do not h Then

504
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a Lave who I think a lot

505
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: of people are look at and like well at ADP

506
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: and the fact that a healthy Olave is probably gonna

507
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: be the target leader that makes him worth taking. The

508
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,440
Speaker 1: guy that I am willing to take a swing at

509
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: is gonna be Rashid Shahed. You know, he's had a

510
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: an extended period of time to get healthy after an

511
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: injury last year. He's kind of low key, a B

512
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 1: S B S O H L candidate. He apparently has

513
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: bulked up this year trying to just get stronger. He's

514
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: already fast, we know that. And I think though he

515
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 1: is a guy where he could be sort of quarterback dependent.

516
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna want a quarterback who's gonna be

517
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 1: willing to take shots down the field, and that's where

518
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: Shaheed's value is is going to lie. Now, I'm curious

519
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: whether or not Kellen Moore is going to draw some

520
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: extra things up to kind of get him a little

521
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: bit more involved in the offense, to kind of find

522
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: different ways of getting him the football. But I just

523
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: think one, you know, and maybe this is me falling

524
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: back into this trap where the ADP is definitely helps,

525
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: But I do think you're gonna see an expanded role

526
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: for him this year. And so you know, when you

527
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: look around and the guys that are going around him

528
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: at wide receiver, you know, Trey Harris is still very

529
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: much and unknown. Same with Jayden Higgins in the Texans

530
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. You know, there's just not a lot

531
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: of clarity there beyond Nico Collins. I think Marque's brand

532
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 1: and actually might be being underdrafted. I think I think

533
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna, you know, outperform his ADP for sure. Marvin

534
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: Mims maybe if he ever is officially introduced to Sean Payton,

535
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: we can start talking about Marvin Mims again, Jack Besh.

536
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like there are a lot of names

537
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 1: around where he is going, Yeah, where It's just like

538
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: there's so many question marks where at least we have

539
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 1: some idea of what it looks like with with Rashid Shahith,

540
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: so I feel like I can make a pretty good

541
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 1: case for him.

542
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: In New Orleans, mandatory shout out to Patrick Claybonn because

543
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: we talked about.

544
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's that's been his dude for the last

545
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: year or two, So a shout out him for sure.

546
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: Over in Cleveland the Browns. Obviously headlining them from a

547
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: fantasy perspective is the fact that there are four quarterbacks

548
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: that are there that we're sort of trying to sift through.

549
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: Are you of the belief that Joe Flacco is the

550
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: Week one starter?

551
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: I think most more than likely.

552
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Yes.

553
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: I think the early camp battle for like who's gonna

554
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: start is between Flacco and Picket, and then I think

555
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: the rookies are battling for who's going to play more

556
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: in the second half of the year because it ain't

557
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 2: gonna work out with with Flacco or Picket. So especially

558
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: worth mentioning two like they have no idea what's going

559
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,360
Speaker 2: on with Quishawn Jenkins right now and if he's going

560
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: to be there or not this year. It's starting to

561
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 2: look more and more like he might not play for them.

562
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 2: So there goes the running game as well. Like it,

563
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 2: this is a gross offense.

564
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: It is really really bad. Yeah. Quin Shawn Judkins, obviously

565
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: away from the team, has not signed his contract, was

566
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: arrested a couple of weeks ago on charges of battery

567
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: and domestic violence. The Browns sort of trying to navigate that,

568
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: but you know, certainly is not off.

569
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: He's on the sign too.

570
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I believe he is the last draft pick to sign,

571
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: So that's definitely a big, big thing going on with him.

572
00:28:59,040 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 2: You are a thet lock.

573
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm scrolling as I'm talking here, trying to figure

574
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: out what I want to do, like and we gotta

575
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: keep scrolling. Ish the wide receivers or are not great here.

576
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: Uh so I'm gonna go back to the running back. Well,

577
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: and all right, maybe he's old, but I still believe

578
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: in Aaron Jones, So I will take him with my

579
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: eighth round pick, and that leaves Jordan Mason for La

580
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: Kwan later on in the draft. You can take him.

581
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 2: Being that.

582
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: The Browns offense, though, is gross. If you had to

583
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: mildly softly pound the table for someone, maybe tap the table,

584
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: knock on the table for a Brown Who would it be?

585
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: I am the one who knocks. Look, I'm not the

586
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: Jerry I've already kind of bede vocal on this, like

587
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 2: I'm not the Jerry Judy supporter. I think it was

588
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: just a perfect storm of having a play caller Pepper's

589
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: his wide receiver one with targets, and having a quarterback

590
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: like Jameis Winston who is just locks in on his

591
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver one that really led to him having that

592
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: stretch last season. But Deontay Johnson, I know, he's coming

593
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 2: off of one of the weirdest years in recent memory,

594
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: but none of it had to do with his talent.

595
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: In fact, when he was playing for the Panthers, he

596
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: outperformed Marvin Harrison Junior on a per game basis, like

597
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: he outperformed Khalil Shakiir on a per game basis, Like

598
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 2: he was productive and now he is still one of

599
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: the best at getting open, creating separation. All of that

600
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 2: he is though maybe like the Browns were the only

601
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: team that offered him a contract, I think he knows

602
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 2: that like this is yeah, so if his head is

603
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: on straight, we know we could get open. And I

604
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: believe he has a chance to be this team's top target.

605
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: But yet not only in best ball drafts. To see

606
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: like an eighteenth round pick. In most of your home

607
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: leagues when you're drafting this month, he's gonna go undrafted.

608
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 2: So at that's such a cheap reduced cost. I am

609
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 2: in on Deontay Johnson.

610
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: All right, So Deontay Johnson being one, I'm gonna go

611
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: with David and Joku. Just I look at what this

612
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: offense potentially is. I look at the quarterback options, and

613
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I think they're going to make Joe

614
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: Flacco the week one starting quarterback. I honestly think they

615
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: would be better off going with either Dylan Gabriel or

616
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Shad or Sanders as their QB one from the beginning.

617
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Because you are not expected to go anywhere, right, there

618
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: are no expectations that the Browns are going to be competitive,

619
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: that they're going to be a playoff team. Why not

620
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: put the young guys back there see what you have,

621
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: see if there's something to develop and to build around,

622
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: and if it turns out that neither of them are

623
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: the answer that they are both bad. Put yourself in

624
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: position to take another bite at the quarterback apple in

625
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: next year's draft. Right, maybe you are in on the

626
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: March for Arch for next year, which, by the way,

627
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: so I can get your your thoughts on this, I've

628
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: come up with March for Arch. I've had a friend

629
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: who came up with Arch madness. Which one do you prefer?

630
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: Arch Madness is really good.

631
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 2: I was really good from March for Arch, But Arch madness,

632
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 2: I think I think my clear it.

633
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Arch madness is really really good. Like I'm willing to

634
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: stand down on March for Arch.

635
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: When you first I was like, that's not gonna be topped,

636
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 2: and then yeah, that might have been topped.

637
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: Arch arch Madness is really really good. So anyway, the

638
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: Browns could be in on Arch Madness. Yeah, but why

639
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: not give what I mean, there's no point. I just

640
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: feel like there's no point on having Joe flacko or

641
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: can he Pickett start? You kind of know what that

642
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: is and you know you're not going anywhere, Like those

643
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna be the key to suddenly make you

644
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: a playoff team, So like why would you bother? Yeah?

645
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 2: I think it was the Browns owner today who said

646
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: he thinks arch madness. He was like, I know the Mannings.

647
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: They go to college for two years, so he doesn't

648
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 2: expect it to happen right away.

649
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: All right, you're back on the clock again. By the way,

650
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: So this range in this draft is awful. It's it's

651
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: weird for sure. Anyway, there's a long way of saying

652
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: that I'm in on David Njoku because I look at

653
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: this team and the quarterback situation is a mess. The

654
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: offensive line is not particularly going to be great. I

655
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 1: just think you're gonna have quarterbacks whoever they are, under

656
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: a lot of duress. You also don't necessarily have a

657
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: ton of mobile guys. I think I think Shouduur Sanders

658
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: is probably more mobile than he gives himself credit for.

659
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: Like I when I watched him at Colorado, there were

660
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: plenty of times where I felt like he could have

661
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: and probably should have taken off and run. Instead, he

662
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: wanted to stay in the pocket and try to make

663
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: big plays with his arm, And I mean it's commendable,

664
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: but I don't know that it helps you or your

665
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: offense in the long run. But either way, whoever the

666
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: quarterback is is going to be a under pressure a lot,

667
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: which means a lot of quick short throws right, getting

668
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: it out quickly, getting getting the ball in the hands

669
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: of your playmakers, and letting them more. And I think

670
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: that's going to apply a lot to David in Djoku,

671
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: so you know he's not going off the board. Is

672
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 1: one of the first six or eight tight ends. But

673
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,760
Speaker 1: I do think the ceiling has him amongst that group,

674
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: just because I think the targets are going to be there,

675
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have to be there more than anything.

676
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: With this group, it gets into the Tennessee Titans, and

677
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: all apologies to our pal and former podcast producer here

678
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: justin Graver, the Titans are going to be bad. And

679
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: I know people are trying to get excited about cam Ward.

680
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,439
Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of cam Ward's got that dog

681
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: in him and you know whatever, but the personnel around

682
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: him is not particularly great. Who are you at least

683
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: willing to maybe take a swing at and be like,

684
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: all right, I can sort of live with this.

685
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 2: This is one that like when you ask about the Saints,

686
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 2: like who are you proud to roster? It's this one.

687
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Calviny is my guy, a right, he has been for

688
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 2: like three years now, I feel like, but you look

689
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 2: at what he did last season, one hundred and twenty

690
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: targets over one thousand yards only the four touchdowns, Like

691
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: to me, it feels a lot like that was his floor,

692
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: and you look at it, like the quarterback play ranged

693
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: from awful to slightly less awful last year, Like Will

694
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:20,320
Speaker 2: Levis wasn't good. Mason Rudolph. I know people thought he

695
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: was good, but I think that's only because people watched

696
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: Will Levis play for so long. By comparison, Like to me,

697
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 2: cam Ward brings way more upside than either of those

698
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks last year. And I think you could make

699
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: an argument that cam Ward could I don't know if

700
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: I had a rookie outperform what Trevor Lawrence was two

701
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: years ago, but like could play in that range. But

702
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: unlike those last two years, there's not a clear cut

703
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 2: number two target. Like I know de Hop was kind

704
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 2: of washed last year, but he was still getting volume.

705
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: And then in Jacksonville there was Christian Kirk. So I

706
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: think it's possible that we see Calvin Ridley get back

707
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: to that like hundred thirty five hundred and forty target

708
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 2: range that we've seen him have some years in the past,

709
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 2: a better quarterbacktually lead to more scoring opportunities. Really, I

710
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: find myself a lot higher on Calvin Ridley than consensus.

711
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 2: I thought I could wait in this draft and maybe

712
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 2: still end up with him. But our boy La Kwan

713
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: also likes him. But yeah, for me, like the I

714
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 2: don't really find myself in many Titans, but Calvin Ridley

715
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: is one that I like, will pull up a little

716
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: bit if.

717
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: I have to, All right, Uh, yeah, Ridley he is one,

718
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: I guess because I'm just generally sort of meh about

719
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: the Titans offense. I think it. I think Ridley falls

720
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: under that category.

721
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: For me, just has a number one QB ever gotten less.

722
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: I know this is Kyle Bryant talking point, but like

723
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: at this point, it's it's true, Like I don't think

724
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: we've ever talked less about a number one pick.

725
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you're right, yeah, because like I mean, we've

726
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: talked more about Shudur Sanders than we have cam Ward

727
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: and even during the draft.

728
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: Process it was like our rewards won, like that was

729
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: the most we talked about him.

730
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: Like pretty yeah, I don't know if you've seen you know,

731
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 1: Drew me, Drew Maggory does his yearly uh why Your

732
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Team Sucks series, which is always hilarious. I just happened

733
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: to come across the Titans one the other day, and

734
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: it always is funny because he includes emails letters from

735
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: fans of the particular team at the end and somebody

736
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: was talking about that one of the letters talked about

737
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: cam Ward and it's like, no one's talked about cam Ward,

738
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm surprised that the TV networks didn't just cut

739
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: away immediately once it wasn't Shador Sanders at the number

740
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: one day first, that's it, you know, so, uh no,

741
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: you're right for a number one overall pick. He's gotten

742
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: very little, very little hype. I'm stinking with the guy

743
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: that I have been on pretty much all off season long,

744
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,720
Speaker 1: and that's Eli Ioman Or you know, there was always

745
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 1: a chance he was one of two fourth round wide

746
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: receiver picks for the Times. But he's the one who

747
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: I think has gotten the most attention, and that's continued

748
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: so far in the early part of training camp that

749
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: you know, you look, you watch the beat reports and

750
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: they have said that you know, not only just off

751
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: the field, has he proven to be just a very nice,

752
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: engaging guy. But that he seems to be picking up

753
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: the playbook very quickly and getting up to speed very quickly.

754
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: And it's a wide receiver room that doesn't have much

755
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the best description I saw somebody

756
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: wrote that the depth chart at wide receiver for the

757
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: Titans had Calvin Ridley followed by Hopes and then prayers

758
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: like that was that was the wide receiver room. So

759
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: there's very much a chance for ioman Or to come

760
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 1: in and be an impact player. And granted, look you're

761
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: not drafting him expecting you're just going to throw him

762
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: in the lineup every single week. But he's one of

763
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: those guys that you can draft late, see how he

764
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: develops and maybe by the time, you know, we get

765
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: a month or two into the season, Uh, you know,

766
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: he looked like a guy that that could be a

767
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: nice flex option for you.

768
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: So this Titans receiver room would have dominated the NFL

769
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen. They got Ridley, Lockett, and Van Jefferson.

770
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I've seen early talk that Tyler Lockett is

771
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: like number five on the depth chart right now.

772
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: Like, I'm convinced that Tyler Lockett's in Tennessee right now

773
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 2: because he knows Nashville is an up and coming city,

774
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: and he's trying to sell real estate.

775
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: You know what, he's got the real estate thing like

776
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: that he's working on right now. I know he was

777
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: doing that in Seattle, trying to help people find homes.

778
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: So you're right, you know, Nashville is booming. Apparently it

779
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 1: is booming of the sun Belt area of the country

780
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 1: doing well when it comes to housing. So look, man,

781
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, look, I've always said, as I'm on

782
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,760
Speaker 1: the clock here that one of Peyton Manning's most brilliant

783
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: business moves was buying a slew of pizza places right

784
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: as Colorado legalized marijuana.

785
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't you and not just regular pizza places.

786
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: The pizza places are open late.

787
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Night, yes, exactly, like you know, you knew what was

788
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: going on.

789
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: He also he doesn't have to pay an adverte. It's

790
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 2: like uh, Ryan Reynolds with mint mobile, right, Like, he

791
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 2: doesn't have to pay an ad guy. He just buys

792
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: a green screen and recorded himself.

793
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't.

794
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: It's pretty smart.

795
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I just took uh it's it's it's

796
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: kind of mid to late rounds, so I'm taking guys

797
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: that maybe are injured, but I think have upside when

798
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: they're healthy. I took Chris Godwin the ninth round. I

799
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 1: took our boy Joe Mixon in the tenth. He was

800
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: just hanging out. There's a syenth round. Joe Mixon was

801
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: still there, Like, I'm I'm gonna take that at that point. Yeah,

802
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,880
Speaker 1: I get that. I'm taking Joe Mixon, all right. So

803
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: through nine rounds my team I have Patrick Mahomes, Baker Mayfield,

804
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: Jehan Robinson, Isaiah Pacheco, DJ Moore, DeVonta Smith, Chris Godwin,

805
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: Sam Laporta, Aaron Jones, and Joe Mixon. I of like

806
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: this team. I do as well, Chesstee, what is your

807
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: What does your roster look like? Right now?

808
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 2: I'm on deck in the ninth but I have Josh Allen, Devon, Han,

809
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: Lad McConkie, Justin Fields, Terry McLaurin, T J. Howkinson, Caleb Johnson,

810
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Juwan Jennings camp.

811
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: Oh, you're the one who took Juwan Jennings. Yeah, yeah,

812
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I had him. Sorry, I I him ready to go.

813
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take another. I don't know how you feel

814
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: about him, but kind of similar to your point with

815
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: like when the guys are like, that's how I viewed

816
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk, Like, I'm not drafting him to be a starter,

817
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 2: but the second if he could get back to Brandon

818
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: Ayuk even close to that in the second half of

819
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: the year, I have an every week starter now, So

820
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: I find myself drafting him a good amount.

821
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know I'm one hundred percent there that, you know.

822
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: I think what we saw before the injury seemed to

823
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: be where he was trending. You know, last year, without

824
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: a doubt was a bad year. He had the holdout,

825
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 1: then he got hurt. All that was bad. But I

826
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: think if he can put that behind him, I think

827
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: you end up with a solid you know, at worst,

828
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: I think high end wide receiver too. So now I

829
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: have no problem with that at all. There. You know,

830
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 1: those are offenses, Saints, Brown's, Titans making some cases for

831
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: guys that maybe you want to take a shot at

832
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: in your drafts. Not done yet, because we got a

833
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: football game coming up on Thursday. Yeah, the Hall of

834
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: Fame game kicks off from Canton, Ohio on Thursday between

835
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the Lions. Will take a break, come

836
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: back and talk about what we are looking for in

837
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 1: those sorts of games coming on next. I can talk

838
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:43,800
Speaker 1: today on the NFL Fantasy Football podcast Football Like Substance.

839
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Speaker 1: It's your television on a Thursday night, the Hall of

840
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: Fame game eight pm Eastern on NBC and PECAI more

841
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: realistically probably like eight twenty eastern. Can I have a

842
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: minor complaint here? Can I just I? Can I old

843
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 1: man yell at cloud for a second? Yeah? One thing

844
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: that sports and other countries do better than us. They

845
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: don't lie about the time the game start. Like when

846
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: a soccer match says it is starting at noon, you

847
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: turn on at noon and they are kicking that thing off.

848
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: It's not that you turn it on at noon and

849
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: they want to do pregame interviews with the coaches and

850
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: they show you the anthem and then do the players like, no,

851
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: we told you this game is starting at new and

852
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 1: it is starting at noon, Like, you know, we should

853
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: do all the pregame stuff in the pregame show. We

854
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: have a whole lass pregame show that you know what,

855
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: if I, as a fan want to tune in, if

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00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: I want to see a pregame interview with the coach,

857
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: if I want to see the national anthem, if I

858
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: want to watch the guys run out on the field,

859
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: do all of that in the pregame show. But if

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Speaker 1: you tell me the game is gonna start at eight,

861
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: when I turn it on at eight, I want them

862
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: to be kicking the ball off. Ye's all, and especially

863
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, especially Super Bowl, Like you have eight

864
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: whole hours that you can do all this, Like we

865
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: don't need I enjoyed, I enjoy watching cooking videos as

866
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: much as the next person. We don't need a whole

867
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: hour on like what people are grilling on Super Bowl Sunday. Like,

868
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: we can cut that out and then we can do

869
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: all the like we can have the Rock give his

870
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: pregame speech from the field during the pregame show, so

871
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: that we're ready to play the Super Bowl. We just

872
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: play the super Bowl.

873
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 2: But how are they going to get those extra commercials in? Marcus?

874
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 2: Think about all the capitalists who need their advertising.

875
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to hold my tongue on that anyway. The

876
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game is scheduled for eight pm Eastern

877
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: Thursday on NBC and Peacock. Look, I know people are excited.

878
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: Football in its own special way is back. We know

879
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: how this thing goes, right? How much of the Hall

880
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: of Fame game do you expect you're going to tune

881
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: in for?

882
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: So, I won't lie. I will be on my couch

883
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: with it on as if it was week one of

884
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: the kick I'm look like it's been since February, where

885
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 2: what like eight months since our last football game. I'm

886
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: sorry there, I want to watch it, but then by

887
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 2: like the second quarter, I'll be like, who are these guys?

888
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,800
Speaker 2: I'll keep an eye on, but yeah, I'll be cooking

889
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: or eating, eating or doing something like that. This game, Look,

890
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: it's fun, it's exciting. It gets our football juices flowing again.

891
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: You get nothing out of it fantasy wise, You get

892
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 2: nothing out of it, you know, like analysis wise, because

893
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 2: the one thing we thought we could take away from

894
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: it a couple of years ago was Josh Jacobs to

895
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 2: be a bad thing and then he had his career year.

896
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: So you know what, it signifies more than anything, Marcus,

897
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: that a week from then we will be in Catin, Ohio.

898
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, the Fantasy Football Expo is coming in just

899
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, so that's gonna be a lot

900
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: of fun. We should talk more about that probably in

901
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 1: the week or so to come. For those of you

902
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: who are planning to go, would love to see you there.

903
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: If you are not planning to go, it's probably not

904
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: too late. You can maybe cobble something together and get

905
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: out there. It is a great time. I will admit

906
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: you that I will probably turn it on, but I

907
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: will be doing other things at the same time as

908
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: as that's going on. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

909
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's late July. It's also the same day

910
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: as the MLB trading deadline, so that's gonna I.

911
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 2: Do like that. The deadline is at three our time,

912
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 2: and the game is I take that five four or five.

913
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we had a couple of hours to talk

914
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: baseball trades before football happens.

915
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: I think the Mets are off, Yeah, they are.

916
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: They're off Thursday to the Dodgers are off that day too,

917
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: so I don't have to worry about watching that.

918
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 2: The metsage you guys a favor and swept the Giants

919
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: this past weekend.

920
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,760
Speaker 1: And we thank you for your service.

921
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 2: Almost they should have been the Padres last night, but

922
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 2: that's they're reliever didn't cover first base.

923
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: Oh, pull the pull, the Garrett Cole pull, the Garrett Cole.

924
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 1: Good uh, yeah, now I will. I will have the

925
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: game on. I'm sure I will be doing other things.

926
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: And I think, especially as you mentioned, by the time

927
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: we get to the second quarter, and definitely by the

928
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 1: time we get to you know, the second half, very

929
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: little attention will be paid to it. I will come

930
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: back and maybe check. I'll check social media and see

931
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: who you know who seem to put up decent numbers

932
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:22,919
Speaker 1: in that game.

933
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: I know it's called the Hall of Fame game, but

934
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 2: friend of the show, I think we should call it

935
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 2: the Emory Huntball because only Hunt is going to know

936
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: the players in the second half. Like that's it.

937
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody in particular that you are checking for.

938
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: In this thing, who's going to be playing, you know,

939
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 2: like that if any of the starters or any even

940
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 2: the rotational pieces, any of those guys are in. And look,

941
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 2: if you want to pay attention, like we will hear

942
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 2: that day, like who the team is going is planning

943
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 2: on giving reps to and stuff. But it's kind of

944
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: a guessing game until then. But yeah, that that's what

945
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: I'll be looking more than anything. And that's what I

946
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: think preseason, I look, not the Hall of Fame game really,

947
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: but like preseason. I don't want to see like huge performances.

948
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 2: I more want to see who's getting the snaps with

949
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 2: the with the starters and stuff like that.

950
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's sort of the important thing. Gavin,

951
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: our producer, who also is a resident Charger fan, is

952
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: giving a shout out to KeAndre Lambert Smith, who right now, Hey,

953
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie to you. I took him with

954
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: I think my last pick in the scott Fish Bowl,

955
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: So who knows, maybe something happens there. Yeah, I think

956
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: I think we'll get to see some of these rookies,

957
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: you know. I would imagine we'll see a little bit

958
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: of Trey Harris. I think we will see Lambert Smith.

959
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how much of Omari and Hampton.

960
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: He may get a couple of carries here and there.

961
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna be so interesting to watch. Yeah,

962
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: I think that'll be kind of interesting to watch on

963
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: that side of things. I think on the Lion's side, you.

964
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 2: Know, I.

965
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: Don't know, you know, I I would be shocked if

966
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: we see Golf or Gibbs or Montgomery Laporta. You know,

967
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: I'm on raw, like those guys are proven, Like, yeah,

968
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys will probably be in street clothes

969
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: for the majority of it. Curious the Isaac Teslaw? Is

970
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 1: it Teslaw? Is it Tesla? I'm not sure how we I.

971
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 2: Like Tesla because it doesn't sound like the car.

972
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: That's fair. So we'll see him. I think for sure

973
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: he was a guy who got a lot of hype

974
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: I think coming out of the draft. So you know,

975
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm here's kind of how he how he performs if

976
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: he gets an opportunity in this one. So you know,

977
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with you. I just want to see

978
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 1: who is getting the early snaps I think is kind

979
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: of the way to go. And then the second half.

980
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: If there's somebody who has a good second half, I

981
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: think that becomes sort of a name to pay attention to.

982
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 1: But you know, I think more than anything that people

983
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,439
Speaker 1: are just excited to watch a football game.

984
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what this is more than anything, right, Like,

985
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 2: don't go in you would expect him to get answers

986
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: for this season. Just enjoy that football is back on

987
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 2: your screen for a couple hours.

988
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: You know, there will be takes. There will be takes

989
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: had over the weekend like Friday, Saturday, Sunday. There will

990
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: be takes, you know, because that's just what people do.

991
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: I am getting excited though, because the Hall of Fame

992
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: game is usually like Hard Knocks comes right after that.

993
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, your bills are the feature team, aren't Hard

994
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: Knocks August fit.

995
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: So next Tuesday? Yeah, so perfect?

996
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: Like all right.

997
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 2: I saw I was driving over the weekend and there

998
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: was a huge billboard that had Christian Benford on it,

999
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is why I like Hard

1000
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: Knocks because no one knows who that is, but he

1001
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: deserves to shine.

1002
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Like, oh man, that'll be fun. By the way, a

1003
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: quick note, Flora and I will be at RAMS training

1004
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: camp this week, so look for our interviews. They should

1005
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: be dropping on Thursday. No, no cheat sheet coming up

1006
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 1: this week. Instead, we will hit you with our interviews

1007
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,879
Speaker 1: that we do out at RAMS camp. I'm not sure

1008
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: who we're going to talk to just yet. We are

1009
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 1: we're efforting some big names. We are not We're not optimistic,

1010
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: like you know, we're not optimistic that they're gonna send us.

1011
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford or Puka Nakua or DeVante Adams would be great.

1012
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 1: We will see, but stay around. Should be interesting though

1013
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 1: to see, uh kind of watch them at work there

1014
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: and you know, talk to some guys about what their

1015
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,800
Speaker 1: expectations are for the year for sure. So there you go.

1016
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm not on the clock for a while, so I

1017
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: got a little bit of time before I get back

1018
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: on the clock for the draft. Very interesting again, Go

1019
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: check out Andrew Cooper over at Fantasy Alarm. He'll be

1020
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: doing a whole ride up on this mock draft. Hopefully

1021
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: it will sound a lot clearer than we made it

1022
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 1: sound as we were interjecting during the course of this podcast.

1023
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: There you go. That'll do it for this edition of

1024
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy, safe and healthy,

1025
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: do good and live well. Enjoy the days everybody, enjoy

1026
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, because we will talk to

1027
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 1: you again for a live show until afterwards, but we

1028
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: will talk to you all again very very soon. Wo