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Speaker 1: always fascinated by not only you submitting questions. But here's

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Speaker 1: what really gets me. You guys have been telling me

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Speaker 1: got a lot to get to. Lis't dive right in?

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Speaker 1: Shall we will? Kicks us off YouTube? He asks thoughts

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Speaker 1: important to be able to recruit transfer quarterbacks too. George

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Speaker 1: in the near future, Well, cheek go, I'd look right

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Speaker 1: the lesser Tornado Alley of Ohio. That is Dan's words,

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Speaker 1: not mine. I've got five under my belt. Dan. Now

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Speaker 1: The entire tropical system is still moving through. Hurricanes tend

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Speaker 1: Several more were killed when that tornado became an EF

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Speaker 1: four right across the river. It is the biggest adrenaline

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Speaker 1: both as often as I can. Carson on Twitter, the

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Speaker 1: UNC football program just had a record breaking twenty five

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Speaker 1: million dollar donation. The donor was Eddie Smith. His quote was,

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Speaker 1: for sixty years. It was important for us to support

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Speaker 1: coach Mack Brown. And the quote goes on. But what

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Speaker 1: Mack Brown been able to get people who have been

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Speaker 1: unprecedented ways, Carson, The way that I answer this is

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Speaker 1: when you think about mac Brown got to have a

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Speaker 1: dynamic personality, because you're right that money comes out of

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Speaker 1: have that championship to fall back on. You can go

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Speaker 1: four and eight this year. If you're LSU net replay

431
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: when you type it in on YouTube and you want

432
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 1: to watch LSU versus Clemson, it's always going to be there.

433
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: They can't take it away from you. And if the

434
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,520
Speaker 1: bonus is you have long lasting effects of the changes

435
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: you made last year nine to three this upcoming year

436
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 1: with all the turnover, you know you're right back in

437
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: contention in twenty twenty one. So I wouldn't really worry

438
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: all that much about LSU as long as those changes

439
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,480
Speaker 1: are evident. Where do I want to go here? As

440
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,199
Speaker 1: you can hear still flipping through pages, I just I

441
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 1: don't trust my computer to keep all your secrets, so

442
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: I have to print these out Tyler on YouTube. Let's

443
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Speaker 1: say hypothetically Alabama begins to decline in some form or

444
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: fashion and they're no longer seen as the dominant force

445
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,359
Speaker 1: in the SEC. Who takes their place? I don't think

446
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 1: it'd be one program, Tyler. And the main reason is

447
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: I don't think there'll be another Alabama. Because of Alabama.

448
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: There's a lot of optimism obviously at LSU. I mean

449
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: that's they just want a championship Auburn is no joke

450
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 1: any given year, Texas, A and M. I don't think

451
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,959
Speaker 1: it's going to be a joke any given year. And

452
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Speaker 1: so I mean, if you go across the Chattahoochee River

453
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Speaker 1: into the Eastern Division, Sorry Missouri, Georgia, Florida, perhaps Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's any one program that is equipped

455
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Speaker 1: to jump five miles ahead of the pack like Alabama

456
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,440
Speaker 1: did for a little while. Connor in the email inbox,

457
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Speaker 1: is the YouTube show actually live or is it pre recorded? Connor,

458
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 1: we are live as live can be, my friend. I

459
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: much prefer it that way. I never understood when I

460
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Speaker 1: got into the news business why people didn't love doing live.

461
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: I love it. There's an energy about it that you

462
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Speaker 1: can't duplicate. There is the feeling of no safety net.

463
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: Being below you is all you ever need to focus.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I don't even like the

465
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Speaker 1: podcast format as much like I think the next big

466
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: shift in the podcasting industry is live podcasting. And as

467
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 1: soon as we do it, I'm going to show Tony

468
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Speaker 1: how to hook me up with it, and we'll do

469
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 1: live podcasting. Because when you record stuff, you always know

470
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: that safety nets down there. I mean, what would you

471
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 1: rather watch? Don't ask, don't tell me what you'd rather do.

472
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 1: Would you rather watch someone tightrope walk of garden hose

473
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Speaker 1: that's tied to two trees and it's three feet above

474
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Speaker 1: the ground. Or would you rather walk somewhere? Would you

475
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Speaker 1: rather watch someone try and walk across the tops of

476
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Speaker 1: two buildings that are fifty stories high? For obvious reasons,

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Speaker 1: I think it's option B. You don't have to tell

478
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Speaker 1: me why. I think we all know why. Michael on Instagram,

479
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Speaker 1: I don't think I've promoted this much, but I am

480
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Speaker 1: on Instagram guys, and they do have direct messages there.

481
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Speaker 1: Do you have interns or an internship program. I'm in college,

482
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: but I would love to get ahead start in sports media, Michael.

483
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Speaker 1: A lot changing here. I could give you an answer

484
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Speaker 1: right now, but I don't think it would be definitive.

485
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Speaker 1: I can tell you there's a hiring freeze CBS company

486
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Speaker 1: wide right now. So if you're asking about something within

487
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Speaker 1: the next week, no, but let me tell you this.

488
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Speaker 1: And I've done this ever since I was back in Columbus.

489
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: I make myself available and some of you understand what

490
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean when I say that some of you understand.

491
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Speaker 1: You can reach out to me with more than just

492
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Speaker 1: a question or a comment. Some of you can reach

493
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: out to me with ideas. You can reach out to

494
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: me with suggestions. And I've done it before, so I

495
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: know exactly how it works. There have been times where

496
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Speaker 1: I've approached people that are in positions to hire or

497
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Speaker 1: to make decisions, and I've given them suggestions and I've

498
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: given them my thoughts. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

499
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Speaker 1: It never hurts to send an email, though it never

500
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Speaker 1: hurts to send a direct message. What's the worst that

501
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: could happen? I ignore you. I mean, you know I

502
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: don't do that by on purpose at least. But I'll

503
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Speaker 1: tell you what I do have, and you know who

504
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Speaker 1: you are. I've got folks right now who just on

505
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: the side to get some experience for me, do all

506
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 1: sorts of things behind the scenes for me. It's nothing official,

507
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: it's nothing contractual. Some of that turns into contractual work.

508
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: But if you want maybe a peek behind the scenes

509
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: and you think you have something to offer, don't wait

510
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Speaker 1: for someone to post a job somewhere. Don't wait for

511
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Speaker 1: someone to post an internship somewhere. Make it happen. Let

512
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Speaker 1: me tell you something. There's a lot of money in

513
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Speaker 1: this world, and there are a lot of positions to

514
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Speaker 1: be made available in this world. If you convince someone

515
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Speaker 1: they need to make it available, If you convince someone

516
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,239
Speaker 1: that you need to fill a role for them that

517
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Speaker 1: doesn't even exist, who's to say they don't create it

518
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Speaker 1: for you. So for many reasons, that's why I tell

519
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Speaker 1: you I'm available if you want to talk. And when

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Speaker 1: I talk about excitement for the future, this company that

521
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm working for twenty four to seven sports very much evolving,

522
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Speaker 1: very much. We've got products that are up right now

523
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: that did not exist four months ago. Flat out didn't exist. Guy,

524
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: this podcast did not exist four months ago. There are

525
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: going to be things this football season that don't exist

526
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: right now, and a year from now, God willing, it'll

527
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: be that at times ten. And it could be that

528
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: a lot of the empty cubicles in any given portion

529
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: of our office that aren't filled right now could be filled.

530
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Speaker 1: You never know if that could be you. That's the

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Speaker 1: whole point. Make something happen on your own Tyler on YouTube.

532
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Speaker 1: I'm a diehard Tennessee fan born and raised in Knoxville,

533
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Speaker 1: what's the one thing that Tennessee lacks as a team

534
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: that's keeping them from being one of the best, if

535
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Speaker 1: not the best, in the country. Is it talent, coaching, recruiting, heart,

536
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 1: is it work ethic, play calling? Depth, execution? Tyler? I

537
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: think it's hiring decisions. I mean, that's what's really stood

538
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Speaker 1: between Tennessee and being elite for quite a while now.

539
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Speaker 1: And I think you could obviously, as I go down

540
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Speaker 1: your checklist, because you have lacked an elite coaching staff,

541
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Speaker 1: you haven't been able to recruit well. Therefore, the talent

542
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: hasn't been there. Therefore, even if you've had the heart

543
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: and work ethic and play calling, you haven't had the

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Speaker 1: talent and the depth, And then execution becomes irrelevant and

545
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: probably isn't there anyway decisions Tyler. That's been the bugaboo

546
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: in Knoxville. Carson on YouTube. I've been reading a lot

547
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: during quarantine. Any college football books you recommend, I got

548
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: three of them here. Phil Savage, who until recently ran

549
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl, Fourth and Goal every Day. Some really

550
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: good behind the scenes stuff there. Bruce Feldman, this is

551
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: an old one. I probably read this on a decade ago,

552
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: but it was when Orgeron was at Ole Miss and

553
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: he let Bruce Feldman behind the scenes for an entire

554
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Speaker 1: recruiting cycle. It's called meat Market. That one's really good,

555
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: and the last coach is by Alan Barra. It's just

556
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: probably the best look at Paul Bear Bryant that I

557
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: think has been released in the literary world. Let's move

558
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: on Noah on YouTube. As a Georgia fan, it's been

559
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: incredibly frustrating to see two talents like Jacob Easton and

560
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: Justin Fields not given a chance to propel George's offense.

561
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I know some of you Georgia fans have already caught

562
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: the mistake here, hold on, stop yelling. No one can

563
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: hear you. He continues. I was often very critical of

564
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,720
Speaker 1: From because I never viewed him as the type of

565
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: quarterback that could ultimately bring Georgia to the Promised Land.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Brot Vandergriff is that player for Georgia?

567
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: Can he bring them a national championship? Also, do you

568
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: think Kirby Smart made a mistake in choosing from over

569
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: five stars like Fields and Eason. Well, Kirby Smart didn't

570
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: choose Jake From over Eason. Noah Injury did Jacob Eason

571
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: started that season. I know I was on the field

572
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: to watch it. And then he goes down, and then

573
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: Jake from goes in, And do you remember what happened

574
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: the next week? Because I made that trip up to

575
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: South Bend, Indiana and watched a true freshman in Jake

576
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: from second string to start the year start at Notre Dame.

577
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: Georgia finds a way to win anyway, Like at what point,

578
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: think about the moment now, don't think about retrospect, don't

579
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Speaker 1: use revisionist history in the moment. By the time Eason

580
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: was ready to come back, who in their right mind

581
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: was calling for Jacob Eason to retake the start position.

582
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Georgia was playing pretty good football. Georgia was going by

583
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: the way, that team was going to go on to

584
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: overtime of a national championship game. No, I don't think

585
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: he made the wrong decision that year. As for the

586
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Speaker 1: field's mystery, that's what it'll always be a mystery. You

587
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: can do one of two things. You can watch justin

588
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: fields at Ohio State today and the blindest person, the

589
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: most football tone deaf person in the room can still

590
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: tell that guy run circles around Jake fromm from an

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00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: ability perspective. Listen, I got people at Georgia just like

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00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: maybe some of you do. I've heard the whispers, I've

593
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 1: heard the rumors. You got to know there was something

594
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You got to know there was something more.

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00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: You also have to know justin Fields, maybe now with

596
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Speaker 1: another year under his belt, may not be the player

597
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: now that they saw in practice. Maybe Kirby Smart's just

598
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Speaker 1: too risk averse. I just I really hesitate not having

599
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Speaker 1: all the information at my disposable or my disposal. I

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Speaker 1: really hesitate telling a head coach that, oh man, you

601
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: made a personnel mistake right there, because you can't think

602
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Speaker 1: it wasn't well thought through or at least meticulously thought through.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's see, Oh reasonable gump, I skipped over you didn't.

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Speaker 1: I I'm sorry. This is one from the YouTube chat.

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Speaker 1: Should Nick Saban's relatively speaking, pitiful eight and five record

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Speaker 1: against Auburn be a black mark on his tenure at Alabama?

607
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Speaker 1: Not a single one of the big ranked matchups have

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Speaker 1: been wins for Alabama. It seems like we've only been

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Speaker 1: able to win when the teams have been heavily mismatched, which,

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Speaker 1: in fairness, is more often than not. Well, that is fair,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, reasonable Gump. How the previous coach do against Auburn?

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Speaker 1: First question? Rhetorical? Second question? You talk about the unevenly

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Speaker 1: matched games, and they have been pretty frequent. Why are

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Speaker 1: they unevenly matched? How could Alabama walk on a field

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00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: and be three touchdown favorite against Auburn? Could it have

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Speaker 1: something to do with that head coach is recruiting? Could

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00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: it have something to do with the stability and the

618
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: preparation and the longevity of the program, all trademarks of

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Speaker 1: a great coach. By the way, No. Eight and five

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Speaker 1: against Auburn's just fun. Flip the page. We continue Spencer

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. Wyoming's football coach said in an interview earlier

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Speaker 1: this year, there are no power conferences, only power programs.

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Speaker 1: That's rich. They beat Missouri this year. How do the

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00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 1: top five G conferences? Excuse me, how do the top

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00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: G five conferences like the American in the Mountain West

626
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Speaker 1: stack up with the bottom power five conferences like the

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Speaker 1: ACC in the Pac twelve. For example, if Clemson were

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Speaker 1: in the American and Oregon were in the Mountain West,

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Speaker 1: would those G five conferences be better than their Power

630
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Speaker 1: five neighbors? No, But I know what the point is here,

631
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Speaker 1: and I know where you're going. And there are times

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Speaker 1: where the top of the quality of play in the

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Speaker 1: upper tier of a G five certainly more than overlaps

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Speaker 1: the bottom of a Power five. There are times where

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Speaker 1: the best teams at the top of a G five

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00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: would be competitive right there with at least the second

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Speaker 1: tier teams in a full season setting in the lower

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Speaker 1: tier Power fives. But even having said that, you've got

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Speaker 1: to understand the caliber of athlete and how much better

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Speaker 1: the average caliber of athlete is. If you take, in

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Speaker 1: other words, the sixth best team in the ACC, who

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Speaker 1: are we talking about, Wake Forest or someone, I don't

643
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Speaker 1: know who it would be, And then you take the

644
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Speaker 1: sixth best team in the AAC and you look at

645
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: the second strings on those teams, it's a night and

646
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: day difference. Even with mediocre Power five teams, the talent

647
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Speaker 1: and the disparity between the talent and the depth, it's

648
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Speaker 1: night and day different. So no, I still don't think

649
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Speaker 1: and I'm talking big picture here, not any one given year,

650
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: but big picture. No, I still don't think that's Spencer.

651
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Speaker 1: It's a good question, though. Uh Ron is next up

652
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter I live in Cincinnati, Buckeye fan of the Corps,

653
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: but I was first a Cincinnati fan in the dark

654
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. As Ron puts it, I'd love to hear

655
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Speaker 1: your take on Cincinnati head coach Luke Fickle, former Buckeye

656
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: and what he's building here. I love hearing about elite teams.

657
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: I'd love to hear more about teams trending up Ron.

658
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: This is a fascinating situation Cincinnati is in. So Luke

659
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: Fickle takes over interim style in twenty eighteen, coaches the

660
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: Bowl Game full time head coach for twenty nineteen. They

661
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: were very good last year. This reeks of Tom Herman

662
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: at Houston? Does it not? Am I the only one

663
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Speaker 1: who thinks this? And this is the catch twenty two

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Speaker 1: so Ron, I've always wondered if my main team, if

665
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Speaker 1: I was a graduate of a G five, or if

666
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Speaker 1: just my main rooting interest was a G five team.

667
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: And people think I hate G fives, I don't. It's

668
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: not even a personal vendetta against G five's. It's personal

669
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Speaker 1: venditt against some people's terrible takes on how this whole

670
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Speaker 1: post season should be handled. But I digress. Let's get

671
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Speaker 1: back on track. It's a really weird dynamic that I

672
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Speaker 1: think you find yourself in because success comes with such

673
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a huge price. At LSU, if your head coach has success,

674
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Speaker 1: you win a national championship, you give him as much

675
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Speaker 1: money as it takes, and you extend him. At Cincinnati,

676
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Speaker 1: if Luke Fickle goes twelve and oh, thirteen and oh

677
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Conference championship and goes to a New Year six game,

678
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: he's getting hired by someone next year at the Power

679
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: five level. And so the more you root and the

680
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: better you do, the more likely it is. Oh boy,

681
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: this is probably the last time we're going to see him.

682
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty seventeen, we watched Scott Frost do that

683
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: at Central Florida. They run the table. I believe they

684
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 1: were undefeated. They go to the Peach Bowl, they beat Auburn,

685
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and he's off to Nebraska. And I wonder if that

686
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: may be the case with Fickle, because see Cincinnati, that's

687
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: the reality there. Now here's how it changes. And I

688
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: want you to maybe use some bigger picture thinking here,

689
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Speaker 1: maybe three four five year down the line, thinking the

690
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: battle for Cincinnati is it's the same battle that Memphis,

691
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Speaker 1: the Aforemens in Central Florida, Houston, the battle that these

692
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: programs have. And I don't care how many officials tell

693
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Speaker 1: me on and off the record, it's not coming. I'm

694
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Speaker 1: telling you I would bet money there's another round of

695
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: conference expansions coming. Can you be involved? What do you

696
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: have to do to get to the big boy table?

697
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: Because when you get to the big boy table, what

698
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: happens is even if it's the ACC. I say even if,

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00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: because you think about the caliber of competition there, but

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00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: the caliber of the paycheck that you get for being

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Speaker 1: associated with that conference and the TV money that you get,

702
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: that is what's night and day, and that's what makes

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Speaker 1: you competitive enough to all of a sudden if you

704
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Speaker 1: do win there, instead of a guy leaving your pasture

705
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: for greener pastures, your pasture just got green enough for

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00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: him to stay. That's my focus when I look at

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Speaker 1: lut Fickle, because right now I think he's really good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think you guys are in a great

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Speaker 1: position Ron, But what is a great position mean for

710
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: Cincinnati right now? I mean, you stay great two years later,

711
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: it's which head coach is about to come in and

712
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: take his place, because he just left us to try

713
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: and keep us Great Shane on Instagram. Will urban Meyer

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Speaker 1: ever coach again? Shane? I believe the answer is yes.

715
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: I talked to urban Meyer for about twenty twenty five

716
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: minutes a couple of weeks ago. He certainly didn't tell

717
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: me that, and he's not going to tell anyone that.

718
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,760
Speaker 1: And I believe right now he is fully convinced he's retired.

719
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: But I'm also fully convinced he's in his mid fifties,

720
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Speaker 1: and I'm fully convinced there are some big offers that

721
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: are going to come his way. And I don't even

722
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Speaker 1: care if he turns down the first two or three

723
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: of them, but they're going to keep coming because everyone's

724
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: going to have to get a know from urban Meyer.

725
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: And that guy's good. And I listen to him, and

726
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: I listen to a lot of the work he's doing

727
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: on the media circuit right now, and he's so dial

728
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 1: then and what he's talking about, he's still in coach mode. Now.

729
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: I know that's a very simple minded philosophy. It takes

730
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: a whole lot more than saying the things on a podcast,

731
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: and it takes more than being committed to work in

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Speaker 1: six hours a day in a studio. Guys, I get

733
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: all that I'm around this world, probably more than some

734
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: of you are. Thank you for letting me do that.

735
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: But I think it's still in him, and I think

736
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Speaker 1: here's what I believe would draw him back if a

737
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: major program came open. And this is just for the

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00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: sake of conversation, so please understand, that's all. What I'm

739
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: about to say is if Texas came open, or usc

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: came open, and all of a sudden someone came and said,

741
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: you see what Orgeron's doing, You see what mac Brown's doing.

742
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: You see how the role of a head coach has

743
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 1: evolved a little bit. What if we did that here?

744
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: What if we gave you an unlimited purse, hire whoever

745
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: you want to get your dream staff in here, and

746
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: then you just drive the bus, you kind of steer

747
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: the ship, and you be the face of this program.

748
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: You be a CEO. But you know, we'll get your

749
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: coaching staff in here. We'll give you whatever you need

750
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: from a strength conditioning standpoint, we'll have all all the

751
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: top facilities. If we don't have them now, we'll build them.

752
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: I think that's too attractive for Urban Meyer to turn down.

753
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: Now that's just me. That is not an informed opinion,

754
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: but I actually I do think it's an informed opinion.

755
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,439
Speaker 1: The more that I consider that. Jeffrey on Twitter, what

756
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: do you believe will make or who do you believe?

757
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: It's so dark in this room, I don't know why

758
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: I turn lights on. Who do you believe will make

759
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: a National title game appearance? First? Texas or Texas A

760
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: and M. Why Jeffrey, This is a good question, and

761
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: I wanted to give you an in depth answer, but

762
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: really all I came down to is Texas, and my

763
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: answer would change if the team switched conferences. I hope

764
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 1: that was good enough for you, because I don't. I mean,

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00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: I like where A and M is more as a program.

766
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: If this were in a vacuum, I like where they

767
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: are more than where Texas is right now. You've got

768
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: a more proven commodity as a head coach at A

769
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: and M. Then you do Herman at Texas. You've got

770
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: a better roster at A and M. You got better

771
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: recruiting at A and M. I think they're further a

772
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: law in being all in. Although, as I've talked about

773
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: on Late Kick Live on our YouTube channel the last

774
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I love the direction at Texas and

775
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: what Crystal Conte has done to galvanize that place. I

776
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: think it feels a lot like what Scott Woodward did

777
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: and the effect he's had, albeit in a brief time

778
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: at LSU. But there is a reality, and it's called

779
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: the sec West. I think I've already said it like

780
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: four times on this podcast alone. So until that changes,

781
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying aem can't do it. I'm saying odds

782
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: percentages I'd have to ride with Texas Chuck on Twitter that. Now,

783
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Chuck does not specify who they are, but they, according

784
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: to Chuck, are saying Wisconsin is a sure fire playoff

785
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: contender at years in. Do you think so? What do

786
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: you think the outcome would be if they followed the

787
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: same path as Georgia back in twenty eighteen murder ball

788
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: high percentage throws rely on defense. Well, that depends on

789
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: what your goal is, Chuck, because you just said playoff

790
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: here and if you want to play murder ball in

791
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 1: what that essentially means is what Georgia did in twenty eighteen.

792
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 1: Just bludgeon everyone that's good enough to get you to Indianapolis.

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00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: You're not getting through Ohio State if you play murder

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00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: ball against Ohio State, and the problem is they out

795
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: athletes you all over the place, you know that, So

796
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 1: you got to do something unique. You got to do

797
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: something they haven't prepared for before murder ball. They prepare

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00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: for about six weeks out of the year in the

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Speaker 1: Big Ten, So you got to do something better than that.

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Speaker 1: And even if you were to get in the playoff,

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00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of the antithesis of what Oklahoma does. But

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00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: you'd have the same problem as Oklahoma, just for much

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00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: different reasons. You'd get to the playoff, but then you'd

804
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Speaker 1: look across a grand canyon because of the self imposed

805
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: limitations that your style of play has put on you,

806
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 1: and you'd realize, well, we got here, so let's pat

807
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: ourselves on the back, But look at how wide this

808
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: gap is between getting here and winning this thing. Oklahoma

809
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: got there last year and then LSU painted the walls

810
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: of Mercedes Benz Stadium with Oklahoma's blood, and they did

811
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,479
Speaker 1: it because Oklahoma style of pl while conducive to winning

812
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 1: a conference, was not conducive to beating an elite team. Again,

813
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: the reasons are different, but the problem would still remain.

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00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: Steven and the email inbox, there was a ton of LSU.

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Speaker 1: I listen. I know you LSU folks listened to this,

816
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: but a lot of you asked kind of the same questions.

817
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: So I decided to let Steven speak for the masses.

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Speaker 1: Here is a derivative of about two dozen LSU questions.

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Speaker 1: LSU coaches are adamant that the offensive system they've installed

820
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: is not going to take a step back. In fact,

821
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Speaker 1: Scott Lenahan recently said they're going to continue to operate

822
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: the same offense as they did last year, while adding

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00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: wrinkles of his own. Do you have any information or

824
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: thoughts on whether Miles Brennan is capable of leading LSU

825
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs? What do you expect that offense

826
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Speaker 1: to look like? The way I've been answering this is

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Speaker 1: forget about Scott Lenahan. Let's pretend LSU didn't lose Joe Brady,

828
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: but they did lose all the players they lost. How

829
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Speaker 1: good would Joe Brady do this year with my Brennan?

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00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: Before we even talk about Scott Lenahan, how good would

831
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Speaker 1: Joe Brady do? Because they're going to take a step

832
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 1: back pretty sizable even with Joe Brady there. So now

833
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: they lose Joe Brady Scott Lenahan comes in. I don't

834
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Speaker 1: doubt that they will try and do the same things

835
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Speaker 1: they did last year. Here's what really I wonder. I

836
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: wonder how good Miles Brennan will be not when everything

837
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: structured and goes according to design. I wonder how he'll

838
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: be on broken plays. Broken plays won LSU championships last year,

839
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: and what Joe Burrow could do on broken plays and

840
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: all those receivers that were there to bail him out.

841
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: LSU will be plenty good enough at receiver this year.

842
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I think the talent, the arm talent, will be good

843
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: enough at quarterback. I wonder about the escapability and the

844
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: improv ability that you have at quarterback that you had

845
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: last year, and I wonder if you have it this year. Bryce.

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00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: In the email inbox, I was listening to your segment

847
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Speaker 1: on JJ McCarthy. Now I erroneously said he was a

848
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 1: five star quarterback out of New Jersey, and a lot

849
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: of you roasted me in the comment section, as you should.

850
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: I could have edited that out, but I told the

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00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: guys I deserve it. Leave it in their column, edit

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00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 1: the video, put it up as was, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: I'll let him beat me over the head, and you did.

854
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: He is from Illinois. By the way, I did know

855
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: that the whole time. I don't know why I said

856
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: New Jersey, but I digress, So Bryce said, I listened

857
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: about JJ McCarthy. Would you think that Christian Dixon and

858
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy are the kind of elite receiving talents you

859
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: said we need at Michigan even though they're from California.

860
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: What I said the other night was the reason Michigan

861
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 1: is not on the same level as the elites in

862
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: college football is cause they cannot consistently go down south

863
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 1: and recruit elite perimeter talent. And the reason is not

864
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: because of academics, and the reason is not because it's

865
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 1: too cold. The reason is because Michigan is not attractive

866
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: for elite perimeter athletes wide receivers, in other words, from

867
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: Miami or as you said, from California. You got to

868
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: change that perception. That's why JJ McCarthy is so important.

869
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: You tried to make the move with the coordinator in

870
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: Josh Gattis. He's got to have the parts to build

871
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the automobile that you want your offense to be. Hopefully

872
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is that, and if he is, then all

873
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're talking about Dixon, the four star

874
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: receiver out of Modern Day High School. That's where Bryce

875
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: Young just came from. Yeah, he absolutely fits that description.

876
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 1: I think worthy, Xavier, you are worthy. He's out of Fresno,

877
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: he's a four star receiver. I'm not as sure on him.

878
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: I don't know as much about him, but just in

879
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: a general sense, Yeah, that's the kind of kids that

880
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: you want littering your commitment list. Next order of business

881
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: is signing them. And I don't have any reason to

882
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: believe in Michigan won't. But yeah, I mean it's a

883
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: good question because that's exactly what you should be looking for.

884
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Aiden and the email inbox. Virginia Tech recruiting fell off

885
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: last year, seems to be down again this year. What

886
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: does VA Tech need outside of a big season this

887
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: year to contend in the fifteen to twenty five range.

888
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: They need an identification, man, They need something that piques

889
00:44:57,120 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: my interest. If I'm not a Virginia Tech, iheartfan. If

890
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: I don't live in Blacksburg or the surrounding area, I mean,

891
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech's pretty anonymous right now. Just to be honest

892
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: with you, for better or for worse. When Frank Beemer

893
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: was there, you knew what Virginia Tech football was. I

894
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: don't have the slightest clue what buy Tech football is

895
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: right now. I really don't. I don't think negative of them.

896
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I don't think glowingly of them. They're just a neutral

897
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: program in my mind right now, and I think a

898
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: lot of recruits may feel the same way. So I

899
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: guess the easy answer is results, But I think more specifically,

900
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: they need to be something unique. There needs to be

901
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: something about Virginia Tech football that distinguishes and differentiates them

902
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: from the pack. Terrence on Twitter. How often do you

903
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: guys know where a player is going to commit before

904
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: it happens? Very often, Terrence. These are the best in

905
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: the business, bar none. Our regional and national recruiting guys

906
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: blows my mind. I do the Wiltfam recruiting whip around.

907
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: We record that either every Monday or Tuesday morning, depending

908
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: on information availability. And I this past Monday morning, I'm

909
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 1: on Zoom with Steve Wilfong. He's our national director of recruiting,

910
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: been at the game forever, and I kid you not.

911
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: We connect at nine am and as soon as he

912
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 1: pops up on zoom. He's on the phone. He's on

913
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: the phone with a head coach. I recognize the voice immediately,

914
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 1: and that head coach is talking about commitments that are coming.

915
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: Wilfong is flat out getting the information that we're about

916
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: to talk about on the video in real time from

917
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: the coach. I can't tell you how many times our

918
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: graphics department in the past two weeks alone, I can't

919
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: tell you how many times they've been giving the heads up,

920
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: so and so is committing here. Get the graphics made

921
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: the answer. Terrence is quite often my friend. Quite often,

922
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: I'm not even in I'm not even on the ratings council.

923
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: I was on the phone yesterday with a high four

924
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: star recruits mother, talking to her about putting together a

925
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: commitment video. So one of you, and I can't be

926
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: more specific or pacific, as I said until I was

927
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 1: like fourteen years old, who it is. One of you

928
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: is about to get a really really good talent and

929
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: it's a high four star and there are like two

930
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty of them out there, so I don't

931
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: think that I've narrowed it down enough to blow their cover.

932
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: Really nice lady, though hopefully she listens to the podcast.

933
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 1: All right, now, this one's pretty in depth, so follow

934
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: me here. Ideally, I would like you guys to make

935
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: your email more concise, but there is some thought put

936
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: into this one. I believe that number one loyalty and

937
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: number two an overwhelming desire to win, have cost Nick

938
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Saban an undefeated season and arguably a championship. I'll explain

939
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: number one loyalty. Alabama would have won the twenty seventeen

940
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: Iron Bowl had to a plate. Let me mark that

941
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: because that is an assumption. But that's one I know

942
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: a lot of people at Alabama share. Also, Saban has

943
00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 1: repeatedly denied Scott Cochran on field positions but retained him

944
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: in his existing role, despite other schools closing the gap

945
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: on sports science and injury prevention. The twenty nineteen season

946
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 1: was ruined by critical injuries before it started, and it

947
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: only got worse. Jonathan, who sends this email, You're not

948
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: wrong there either, brother, Let's continue overwhelming desire to win.

949
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 1: This is his second point. Georgia out recruited Sabin in

950
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen and he couldn't stand it. In order to

951
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: regain that top recruiting position, Saban hired guys whose recruiting

952
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,280
Speaker 1: ability was superior to their coaching ability. That's a little

953
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,720
Speaker 1: too here, stay ish, but I understand where you're going there.

954
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Certainly the defensive coordinator position left a lot to be

955
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: desired in twenty eighteen, so much of that behind the

956
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: scenes between you and I. Saban probably made a move

957
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: without the titles changing. Subsequent results on the field were

958
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: not up to Alabama's standard and communication, execution, consistency, etc.

959
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: This was evident all year long, especially in the gaming

960
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: against Clemson. I believe he has evolved through these experiences.

961
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: Do any significant lessons remain for Sabin to learn? Jonathan?

962
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, I think you're right. I think this entire

963
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: email is right. I think loyalty almost Bitnick Saban in

964
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. I want you to think about where we

965
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: are and take a sip of drink. I haven't hardly

966
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: breathe in like thirty minutes. Think about where we are.

967
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: Here we are picking apart a season where this man

968
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: won a national championship. But I think you're right. Let

969
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: me give you my perspective. I was at that Iron Bowl.

970
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: I covered it. I was on the field. I knew

971
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: they were about to storm the field. So I went

972
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: up Alabama's tunnel, and I was up Alabama's tunnel. I've

973
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: told this story on the show before. Bama's players are

974
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 1: walking up the tunnel and their wide receivers are ready

975
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 1: to form a mutiny. I mean equipment being thrown all

976
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 1: over the place, and they are irate because two a

977
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: tongue of by Lowell was not given an opportunity to

978
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: play in that game. I don't know if they would

979
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: have won, but I know I think I know it

980
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: would have been more competitive, and as we know, he

981
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: eventually was inserted at halftime of a national championship game

982
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: they were being shut out. Now, as for the Scott

983
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: Cochrane on field position thing, I may think that the

984
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: non sequiturs one doesn't necessarily lead to the other, but

985
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: I do believe that he probably over corrected his staff

986
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: after that twenty eighteen season. I don't know if it

987
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: was in response to Georgia. I know they had a

988
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 1: guy in taj Lupoy who many, including Nick Saban, realized,

989
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 1: we're not equipped to handle that defensive coordinator job. They

990
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: were not what they needed to be defensively. And then

991
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: on top of that, you start to have the injuries

992
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: pile up, but here's the bottom line. Now the question becomes, Okay,

993
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 1: well do they have the right guy in place now?

994
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: Is Pete Golding the right guy? I interviewed Nick Saban

995
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: the other day. I asked him straight up about that.

996
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: I said, everyone's out here blaming Pete Golding, that even

997
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: in lieu of all the injuries last year, people still

998
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: believe Golding was part of the problem there. How do

999
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: you assess your program? And he was so nonchalant, so relaxed,

1000
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: and said, well, when we did what we were supposed

1001
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 1: to do, we were fine. Now, I think it's human

1002
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: nature to listen to someone say that and say, well, duh.

1003
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's not, then it's sunny. But what

1004
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: he's saying is a little bit deeper. He's answering your

1005
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 1: questions about questioning his latest defensive coordinator higher or promotion

1006
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: in Pete Golding. What he's saying is, if defensive coordinator

1007
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: is a problem, then play calling is a problem. Design

1008
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 1: is a problem, game plan is a problem. He said,

1009
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: none of those things were problems. We just had too

1010
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: many young kids on the field because we couldn't keep

1011
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: our starters healthy. When we executed plays as they were designed,

1012
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: and calls and checks as their design. We did fine.

1013
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: In other words, what he's saying is, I don't think

1014
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,240
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator or the guy wearing the headsets the problem.

1015
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: We got to have the right players on the field.

1016
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: So it's a good email there, Jonathan, as well thought

1017
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 1: out Dan and email in box. I watched your segment

1018
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: about the PAC twelve from Thursday night twice. Your comments

1019
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: really got me thinking about this, given everything that's been

1020
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,479
Speaker 1: said and reported from some of those clickbait posts not mine,

1021
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: of course. Do you think the various conferences in states

1022
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: reactions to COVID nineteen in relation to having a twenty

1023
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: twenty football season could spur along and speed up college

1024
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: football realignment and make it a more regional feel like

1025
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 1: it was several years ago. Dan, Yes, I think this.

1026
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: We have had a conference commissioner that we have been

1027
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,760
Speaker 1: in contact with a couple of them actually in the past.

1028
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: Really in the past twenty four hours, we've had one

1029
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: specifically tell us in no uncertain terms that is not happening.

1030
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: It is not happening. And I got to tell you

1031
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: I still think it will. I don't know if it's

1032
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: going to be because of COVID nineteen. Now I can't

1033
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: get that specific I do I have, at least I

1034
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 1: have thought that there is an outside possibility if worse

1035
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: came to Worse and the PAC twelve, for example, and

1036
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't have any inside information here, but if the

1037
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: PAC twelve were to say, you know what, no season

1038
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 1: this year, and Southern cal is a private institution, very

1039
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: valuable brand, were to say we're out of here, I mean,

1040
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,240
Speaker 1: do we really not think that the Big twelve wouldn't

1041
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: make a play for them? Do we really think that

1042
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: people would just let Southern Cow float out their independence style?

1043
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: Of course they wouldn't. So if worse came to Worse,

1044
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: I think that would happen. I don't think that we're

1045
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: coming to worse. I don't think that's what's going to

1046
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: occur here. I think we're probably going to play football

1047
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 1: in a lot more normal manner than anyone thought possible.

1048
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. Just a week ago, I don't know

1049
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: why more people haven't learned to just sit tight on this.

1050
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: Just sit tight. We'll find out together. But that's where

1051
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:28,240
Speaker 1: we are right now. How about this question? This question

1052
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: comes from Tommy, who is editing this very podcast that

1053
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: you listen to, and he's got a question and it's good,

1054
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: and I don't even think he knows how good it is.

1055
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: But he's about to find out Maryland just got its

1056
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 1: best quarterback since the nineties. And he is talking about

1057
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: Talia Tongue Ailoa, who transferred from Alabama. Worst kept secret

1058
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: in the world. That kid was never playing at Alabama.

1059
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Now I had heard Maryland, but that was a couple

1060
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: of months ago, before two I got drafted by the Dolphins,

1061
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: so I thought that plan maybe off the table. I

1062
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: assumed he may go to one of those South Florida's

1063
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Speaker 1: And it turns out I should not have kept my

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Speaker 1: mouth shut. I should have said Maryland because that's exactly

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Speaker 1: where he went. So just know I was right, even

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00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 1: though I didn't say anything. Anyway, we continue, so we

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00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent to put around him at Maryland. Locksley,

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00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: Michael Locksley, he is killing it on the recruiting trail,

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00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: but we play in the Big ten East. How would

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Speaker 1: you suggest I set my expectations from Maryland football over

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00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: the next three years, rev them up. Here's why it

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: really didn't have anything to do with tellya tongue Bai Looa.

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Speaker 1: To be honest with you, I think he's a promising prospect. However,

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Speaker 1: there is another element in play here. Not a lot

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00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: of people are paying enough attention to this yet, mark

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00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 1: my words, a year from now, everyone will be paying

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00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: attention to this. When that headline came down a couple

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00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about name, image and likeness, When that

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00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: headline came down a couple of weeks ago about being

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00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: able to cash in and use the free market to

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00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: its fullest extent and maximize your brand and your profitability

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00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,280
Speaker 1: as a college football player. You know whose eyebrows really

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00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 1: raised up in the air. Phil Knight at Oregon and

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00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Kevin Plank at Maryland Nike and under Armour, respectively. What

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00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 1: they've whispered about in college basketball for a long time

1086
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,719
Speaker 1: is about to straight up become all but legal in

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Speaker 1: college football. If you want to see a couple of

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Speaker 1: programs that, by nature of the sport and the landscape

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00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: of it changing, if you want to see a couple

1090
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: of programs that could just flat out explode, its Oregon

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00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: with Nike, and it's Maryland with under Armour. Think of

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00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,759
Speaker 1: the potential when you make it legal for kids to

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00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: sign endorsement deals. Think of the potential. Could you How

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00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 1: are you not salivating right now if you own an

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00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: apparel company, if you have made billions of dollars through

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00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: appail and your playtoy essentially is a major university program

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Speaker 1: like Maryland football or like Oregon football, And all of

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00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,439
Speaker 1: a sudden, now legislators in Indianapolis are scrambling and saying, okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys can do it. Yeah, I bet we can,

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Speaker 1: and I bet we will. So Tony, I think that

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00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: there may be better times ahead than even you guys

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Speaker 1: in the Maryland circle realize, for maybe reasons that you

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00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: don't quite realize yet. I can tell you this though

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00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: assistant coaches realize it, and I can tell you this

1105
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:24,879
Speaker 1: Mike Loxley realizes it. Tom in the email inbox sent

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00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: us a great question. We're going to wrap up on

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00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: this Last Dance Bulls documentary. Did you watch it? And

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00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: I've heard you talk loosely about how you used to

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00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: watch pro wrestling. I'm curious if you've seen a related

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00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: documentary that they've been doing on the Undertaker on the

1111
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: WWE network called Last Ride. Tom, I was made aware

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00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: of this so of course I watched every episode of

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00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 1: the Last Dance, and then I borrowed my buddy's password

1114
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: as you do to log into ww network. Does that

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00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: mean that nine ninety nine a month that can buy

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00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,479
Speaker 1: me a couple of rotissory chickens publics? And so yeah,

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00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 1: I went and I watched the Last Ride. I love

1118
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: it and I hate it. I was talking to Colin

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00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: about this. He's the director of the actual Late Kick

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00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: Live YouTube show. He, like me, used to watch pro

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00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: wrestling in the late nineties. And here's the problem. My

1122
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: problem with pro wrestling, the reason I can't take it

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00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: seriously anymore, is because they voluntarily have exposed their own business.

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00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 1: They voluntarily let you behind the scenes. They voluntarily broke

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00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: what they call k fabe and essentially let you in

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00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 1: on the idea that all this is choreographed and all

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00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: of this is scripted. I don't say fake, because I

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: think there's a big difference between choreography and fake. But

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00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: the bottom line is everyone always knew that. But it's like,

1130
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: if I go watch David Copperfield, I've seen it before.

1131
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 1: If you've never seen a David Copperfield illusion show, it's insane.

1132
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I go watch David Copperfield. I know he's not making

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00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 1: people disappear. I know that he is not making someone

1134
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: vanish in thin air and then reappear in the Bahamas.

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00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: I know he did not make the Statue of Liberty disappear.

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00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: I know all these things. As long as he doesn't

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00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: show up on a TV station the next morning and say,

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00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: here's how I did it, I'm fine. I'm willing to

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00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: suspend my disbelief and I'm willing to buy into it,

1140
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: much the same way as I'm willing to go watch

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00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: a movie that is unrealistic, as long as you don't

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00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 1: insult my intelligence. I mean, if you have a guy

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00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: that overcomes seemingly insurmountable odds in life, I'm willing to

1144
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: buy it. Just don't let him jump off a three

1145
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: story building and land on his feet. That insults my intelligence,

1146
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: and it insults my intelligence. When you sold me for

1147
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: twenty years that the Undertaker, who we're talking about here,

1148
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: is dead, I mean that's the story. He's literally dead.

1149
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 1: They packaged the character so well, they presented it so

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00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: well on TV. I think it's the best character that

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: they have ever created in the history of pro wrestling.

1152
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: They did it so well that you're willing to suspend

1153
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: your disbelief. What would sound ludicrous to talk about on

1154
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: the street. Hey, there's this dead guy down here. That's

1155
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. What you're willing to buy it only until

1156
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,479
Speaker 1: they pull the curtain back right now? What Tom asked

1157
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 1: about is this documentary they're doing wherein you get behind

1158
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: the scenes access to Mark Callaway because that's the Undertaker's

1159
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: real name, and they're showing him limp around backstage, and

1160
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: they're showing him overweight, and he's signed off on all this.

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00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: It's a documentary crew following him around. They humanize him.

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00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the Undertaker humanized. I don't

1163
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: want to know about the real under I don't want

1164
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: to know any of that. But here's the problem. If

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00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: you put it in front of me, I'm gonna watch it,

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00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: just like if you tell me how the Magic trick works,

1167
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna turn the channel. I'm gonna listen. I'm

1168
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: just not gonna respect the magic industry anymore after I

1169
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: found out how it worked, and I'm not respecting the

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00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: pro wrestling product anymore. After you expose it, someone else

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00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: can expose it. I don't care as long as you

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Speaker 1: look me in the eye and tell me it's real,

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00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: as long as you don't insult my intelligence, I'm willing

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 1: to buy into it. But the moment that you're showing

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01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: me or you're showing the Undertaker get hip surgery, ah,

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01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: I'm out. Man. As soon as you're showing him on

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Speaker 1: a deck in his backyard, crying out, tearing up a

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01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: little bit thinking about his career, I'm out. This man's

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01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: supposed to be dead. I mean, this man is supposed

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Speaker 1: to be without a soul. I'm not about it. I'm

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01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 1: just not about it. We had a really good list

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Speaker 1: of questions here and I still didn't get to him all.

1183
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Speaker 1: So here is what I want you to do. What

1184
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: I want you to do is keep sending him and

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01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: I will get to as many as possible, and the

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01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: ones that I don't answer, I try and at least

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01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: get you a response via email. But as I told you,

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01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: the five star reviews that you can give us on

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01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: this podcast, they are worth their weight in gold. And

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: the more you give us, the more traction that this gets,

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01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: and the more traction this gets, the more we're going

1192
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: to deliver you content that you want. I'll also tell

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Speaker 1: you this. I don't know why we didn't think of

1194
01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: it before. Probably someone did, I just didn't think of it.

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01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: You take the comment section where you can leave feedback

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01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and you put your questions there. Give

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Speaker 1: us a five star review, and put your questions there

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01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: in the form of a comment a review. I can

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Speaker 1: promise you we're getting to them. I can promise you

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Speaker 1: that a lot of you have screenshotted evidence that you

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01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 1: have given us a five star review and just sent

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Speaker 1: the screenshot to me in the email inbox. I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's also a guaranteed response. Josh paid seven zero six

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com at Latekickjosh on Twitter. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Instagram I think it's the same handle there,

1206
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: and you can just comment on the YouTube channel. But

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Speaker 1: we will see you this Thursday night, depending on when

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Speaker 1: you're listening, and this Sunday night, Late Kick Live airs

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Speaker 1: at eight eastern seventh Central on the twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven Sports YouTube channel. You guys, as I always tell you,

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Speaker 1: are the reason I get to do this, so I

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Speaker 1: really really appreciate it. It's been a lot of fun.

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Speaker 1: As you can tell, I'm partially hoarse for the most

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Speaker 1: ridiculous reason in the world. I've had sneezing attacks the

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Speaker 1: last two days because of allergies, and my sneezes are

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Speaker 1: those really violent kinds that you hear two doors down

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Speaker 1: and you think something just happened, like did an asteroid

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Speaker 1: just hit the building. No, it's just him sneezing, and

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Speaker 1: it partially tears my vocal cords. So that's where half

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Speaker 1: my voice is right now. But it will be back,

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Speaker 1: and if not, I could whisper. It just draws you

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Speaker 1: in more and captivates more of your attention. So we've

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Speaker 1: talked long enough here, I'll see you on the YouTube show.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you right back here. Fill that inbox, get

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Speaker 1: those questions in. I really appreciate it. You guys, have

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Speaker 1: a great rest of your week.