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Speaker 2: Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health. How's everybody doing here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday? Chris Brown, anniglab in here with you,

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Speaker 2: will be with you till three Thanks for joining us

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Speaker 2: plenty to get to today and we will tick off

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Speaker 2: the boxes one by one. Have a fun discussion topic

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Speaker 2: for you today. But as everybody knows by this point

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Speaker 2: unless you were living under a rock, today is the

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Speaker 2: trade deadline for the NFL four PM, So three hours

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Speaker 2: from now will be doors closing on any trade business

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Speaker 2: in the league. There has been some activity already, Maddie,

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Speaker 2: and the Bills have been reported to be working the

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Speaker 2: phones to some degree. We'll get to all of that

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Speaker 2: here in short order. Happy Halloween, by the way, And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this, Maddie, but we

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Speaker 2: know that California passes an inordinate number of laws outlawing

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Speaker 2: stuff that is not like remotely harmful to humans, Like

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Speaker 2: it's off the list immediately in the state of California,

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Speaker 2: you know, like amission's laws, all this stuff, food anything.

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Speaker 2: So my wife alerted me to this story. California has

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Speaker 2: outlawed certain foods that contain ingredients that have a history

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Speaker 2: of causing cancer in humans. On Halloween of all days.

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Speaker 2: One of the things on the list is Skittles.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I heard about that they were out lawing skittles.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I guess there was some other fruit by

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Speaker 2: the foot thing that's out and then there were two

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Speaker 2: dropping the hammer, Like if you're in, if you're a

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Speaker 2: kid in California, that stuff is like black market black

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Speaker 3: That was like us growing up on what was it

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Speaker 3: light those fireworks off in Illinois because we could not

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Speaker 3: buy the ones that we wanted in Illinois, so we

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Speaker 4: To buy them.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, cross state lines to go and grab your skittles.

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Speaker 2: I get it. Well, hold on, I just double checked.

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Speaker 2: So they said the law apparently isn't going in effect

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Speaker 2: until twenty twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: You get a couple more holies.

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Speaker 2: Snock up, now, stock up? Now what are they gonna

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Speaker 2: do over there? Like, what do you do in California

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Speaker 2: if it's twenty twenty and I mean, what are they

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Speaker 2: heard there's a secret stash of skittles here. They get

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Speaker 2: that California tough state. Tough state. I mean, I respect

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Speaker 2: the I respect the intent of the law. But at

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Speaker 3: Time, the easy fix would just be skittles can just

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Speaker 3: alter the recipe, alter the ingredients where it's safer.

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Speaker 2: With a different formula. And really, I think it's I

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Speaker 2: think a lot of it is the coloring.

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Speaker 4: I think it's the dye and that's.

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Speaker 2: That's the issue. So just go with like all white

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Speaker 2: cancer causing issues. So I don't know, they're gonna have

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Speaker 4: Kills of brand skittles, nice, yeah, not.

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Speaker 2: Your Dad's skittles or moms kittles. But yeah, so okay,

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Speaker 2: the clock is ticking in California. So not you'll be

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Speaker 4: I'm Reese's all the way.

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Speaker 2: Oh your peanut butter cup.

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Speaker 2: So here's the other interesting thing on that, because my

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Speaker 4: She'll do that, will do that.

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Speaker 2: Well. I don't know anybody that doesn't like those unless

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Speaker 2: Okay, you've tried them, though, I'll enjoy them.

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Speaker 3: They this is not a popular candy anymore, but it

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, those are really good, right I like those?

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Speaker 3: Or I like the Milky Way midnights those are really good.

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Speaker 2: Oh the dark chocolates, gotcha? Yeah, I would. I would

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Speaker 2: say Milky Way is the top one for me. Frozen preferably.

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Speaker 4: My dad would do that all the time growing up.

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Speaker 2: I almost will not eat a room temperature Milky Way,

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Speaker 2: That's probably number two.

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Speaker 2: it would be Skittles, though, I'm trying to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know what I like, And now I'm going to

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Speaker 2: sound like a senior citizen here, But I love Mike

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Speaker 2: and Ikes just I get stuck in your teeth a lot,

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Speaker 2: here on this Halloween NFL trade deadline, and we already

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Speaker 2: know that one relatively large transaction is about to go down.

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Speaker 2: It's been reported as it's happening. Whether it's been finalized

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Speaker 2: and the Commanders are making a swap. Basically, the Bears

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Speaker 2: are going to get some much needed pass rush out, Maddie.

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Speaker 2: They have ten sacks on the season, they are the

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Speaker 2: to acquire Commander's defensive end Montes Sweat, which, as we know,

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Speaker 2: Washington a team loaded with defensive linemen, and in exchange,

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Speaker 2: get a second round asset for Montes Sweat. It's a

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Speaker 2: good deal for Washington, I think, and hopefully helps the Bears.

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Speaker 3: And the Bears are in need of somebody who can

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Speaker 2: Ten.

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Speaker 4: We're through almost nine NFL games here.

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Speaker 2: That's rough. That's like barely won a game.

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Speaker 2: Now, the Bears aren't usually playing from a head very often,

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Speaker 2: so that can compromise it. But that's an anemic number,

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Speaker 2: like a real that's anemic tough. According to ESPN NFL

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Speaker 2: reporter Ed Werder, the forty nine Ers and Bills are

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Speaker 2: among those teams discussing potential trades for Bears cornerback Jalen Johnson.

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Speaker 2: The Cowboys were rumored to be involved, but they have

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Speaker 2: see what does it take to land this guy. I

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Speaker 2: it's interesting, and I think we kind of anticipated they

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Speaker 2: What's the cost, I think is the biggest That's the

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Speaker 3: what is it going to cost? Is this cornerback worth

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Speaker 3: going to try and get as much as they can

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Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, he's had a nice career. He's been

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Speaker 2: then the other two, as I mentioned, came earlier this season.

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Speaker 2: So you can let us know if you like that.

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Speaker 2: If you had any other thoughts on the trade market,

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Speaker 2: feel free to chime in. But we also have a

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Speaker 2: topic of discussion today that concerns the season thus far,

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Speaker 2: and what we're putting on the table for you is

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Speaker 2: approaching this halfway mark of the season. Now, which Bill's

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Speaker 2: player has surprised you the most? And I guess this

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Speaker 2: but which player on Buffalo's right has surprised you the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The first name that came to mind for me

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Speaker 6: Hey, I'm excited to share with you some unique and

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Speaker 6: And the main question answered in both those videos is

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Speaker 2: But Dan, what is your what is your most recent day?

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Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm here, Here we go. So what I

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Speaker 6: Now that's something that's not you don't have data on.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think it's because it kind of enables all

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Speaker 2: Can I mean, we can't dissect the whole thing, Dan,

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Speaker 6: Spread it Yeah, spread it out in a more like

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks, appreciate the time we got to move

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when you're spreading the ball out like that, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you spread the field, the reads are

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Speaker 2: You always have to factor in who you're playing, though,

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Speaker 1: For you just run it. You know, I don't get

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Speaker 2: Under Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in the game that he played against us, he

437
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Speaker 3: didn't have a quarterback hit. He didn't have a sack.

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Speaker 3: He only has one and a half sacks on the season.

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Speaker 3: I know we're we're halfway through the season, so this

440
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Speaker 3: number could increase, But yeah, I agree. And you look

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Speaker 3: at the unit that we have, and you think about

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Speaker 3: the position groups across this roster and maybe needs across

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Speaker 3: this roster, and I wouldn't put defensive line up there

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Speaker 3: at the top for guys that you should be looking

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Speaker 3: around for, especially a guy that while he could fit

446
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Speaker 3: under the cap and it may not be that expensive,

447
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Speaker 3: it's like we kind of already have those guys who

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Speaker 3: are productive in this and have proved ourselves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why you signed Pooing a forward latent free agency.

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Speaker 2: You know you still have Tim Settle here. Look, I'd

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Speaker 2: be the first person to tell you I wish they

452
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Speaker 2: still had day Kwon Jones. But when he went down

453
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Speaker 2: along with Milano and then Tredevi's white the week prior,

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Speaker 2: I was most concerned about the linebacker spot and the

455
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Speaker 2: corner spot in terms of depth more than I was

456
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Speaker 2: defensive tackle. Just because of who the I mean, poona

457
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Speaker 2: Ford was a healthy and active that guy starting from

458
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Speaker 2: probably twelve to fourteen teams in the league somewhere else,

459
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Speaker 2: So knowing they had him in reserve kind of gave

460
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Speaker 2: me at least, you know, And I thought poona Ford

461
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Speaker 2: had a really solid game last week against the Bucks,

462
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Speaker 2: might have been his best game in a Bill's uniform.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, and I think to Maddie's point, that probably

464
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Speaker 2: had something to do with it too. They have depth there,

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Speaker 2: they don't need to go searching for more necessarily, even

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Speaker 2: if it is affordable. But I wouldn't be surprised if

467
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Speaker 2: they weren't over the moon on the player either. Let's

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Speaker 2: not forget the Giants, who are two and six football team,

469
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Speaker 2: just threw him overboard, so they probably didn't think a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of him as well. Eight oho three zero

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Speaker 2: five point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five point fifty is the number to call as we

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Speaker 2: are asking you at the halfway point of the season,

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Speaker 2: which Bill's player has surprised you the most. I picked Bernard,

475
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Speaker 2: one of our callers. Did Maddy likes Leonard Floyd season?

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Speaker 2: And who wouldn't with the numbers he's put up so far.

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Speaker 2: But there are other candidates I believe on this list,

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Speaker 2: So you let us know what you think got open

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Speaker 2: lines for you at eighth three, five fifty. But in

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Speaker 2: the meantime we will go to the tweet sheet, which

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Speaker 2: is brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official

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Speaker 2: equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and Bill's News Consolidated,

483
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Speaker 2: says Osirus. Torrance has surprised me the most because he

484
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Speaker 2: is a rookie and has played arguably the best at

485
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Speaker 2: right guard than anyone else in the McDermott era. It

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Speaker 2: has been a little bit of a revolving door there

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Speaker 2: at that position. Under head coach Sean McDermott. We've had

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Speaker 2: the likes of John Feliciano, John Miller, Ryan Bates, Cody Ford.

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Speaker 2: It has been a turnstile. And so to get some

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Speaker 2: stability at that position, to mention some good play, I mean, look,

491
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Speaker 2: there were some growing pains there the first few weeks,

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Speaker 2: but he's kind of really rounded into form of late

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Speaker 2: which is what you kind of hope as you go

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Speaker 2: through a player's rookie season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and to have somebody that you're not just plugging

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Speaker 3: and playing in that position, who may be an older

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Speaker 3: player on the roster, who may be in his tenth

498
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Speaker 3: season or eighth season. This is a guy that's in

499
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Speaker 3: his first NFL season, and you love when you can

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Speaker 3: find somebody like that, especially in a role within the

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Speaker 3: offensive line where you need to have a lot of

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Speaker 3: chemistry at that position.

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Speaker 4: To have a guy who.

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Speaker 3: Can be here for the long term, I mean, that's

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Speaker 3: great to have him playing at the level that he's

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Speaker 3: been playing at. This could be a guy who could

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Speaker 3: really be a solid piece.

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Speaker 4: On the line for a long time.

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Speaker 3: You've had Mitch Morse hold down that center spot for

510
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Speaker 3: a while, now, you've had Dion Dawkins hold down that

511
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Speaker 3: left tackle spot for a while. To have that consistency

512
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Speaker 3: in a group that needs chemistry, I think says a

513
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Speaker 3: lot of good things for this line in the future.

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Speaker 3: We've been seeing them play at a high level this season,

515
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Speaker 3: and it's because the guys like Osyrus Torrance and Connor

516
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Speaker 3: McGovern being able to fit in and work with that group.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Becuspencer Browns in his thirty year at the right

518
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Speaker 2: tackle spot as well. So some consistency and continuity goes

519
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: a long way on an offensive line. As we all know,

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Speaker 2: break time for us here, but when we return, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have our first guest of the show today. It

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Speaker 2: is Brad Spielberger from Pro Football Focus. Gonna talk to

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Speaker 2: him a little bit about not only the trade market,

524
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Speaker 2: but Leonard Fournette, the most recent addition to Buffalo's roster.

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Speaker 2: I'll be it on the practice squad. We'll ask about

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Speaker 2: what he can offer at this point in his career

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Speaker 2: to the Bills of him when we return here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live, presented by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live

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Speaker 2: here on a Tuesday. Chris Brown, Matty Glad with you

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Speaker 2: please to be joined now by analysts for Pro Football

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Speaker 2: Focus on Brad Spielberger back on the show here, Brad,

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Speaker 2: Good to have you back.

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Speaker 8: How you been, I've been great, Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 8: Happy Halloween and trade deadline?

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Speaker 2: That's right, Halloween and trade deadline, that's right. Uh wonder

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Speaker 2: how many people are dressing up like Roger Goodell today?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah. So let's let's begin here. There's, you know,

539
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Speaker 2: a pretty sizable trade that's already kind of happened and

540
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: been finalized with Montez Sweat going from Washington to Chicago.

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Speaker 2: We understand the move in light of how horrible Chicago's

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Speaker 2: pass rush has been. But now we hear like Washington's

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Speaker 2: taking calls on Chase Young. And while I understand, you

544
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Speaker 2: can't pay all of those guys, and they've given him

545
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Speaker 2: tons of money. You know, Jonathan Allen, Deron Payne, they

546
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Speaker 2: both got paid. Chase Young, you're gonna have to pay too,

547
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Speaker 2: are the Is Washington having second thoughts about the level

548
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Speaker 2: of investment in that defensive line and maybe spreading that

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Speaker 2: money around to the rest of the roster.

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Speaker 8: It is pretty interesting if they do ultimately move off

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Speaker 8: of both. You know, I expected one of the guys

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Speaker 8: to move, then the other maybe a franchise tag candidate,

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Speaker 8: maybe an extension candidate. But if they also move Chase Young,

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Speaker 8: who I do think the knee injury. I always look

555
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Speaker 8: great this season, but I do think that knee injury

556
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 8: is a concern, not only in Washington but in other

557
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 8: clubs as well. Yeah, maybe they did feel, ok, hey,

558
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Speaker 8: we paid two guys at this position. We feel now

559
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Speaker 8: we can be drafted young players, sign some lesser talent

560
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Speaker 8: and free agency and they can just win off the

561
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Speaker 8: edge because of the attention being commanded on the interior.

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Speaker 8: But it certainly his interesting to move off two former

563
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Speaker 8: first round pick edge rushers both have been both of

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Speaker 8: which have been awesome this season.

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Speaker 3: And the Bills add to their roster their practice squad,

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Speaker 3: that is, with Leonard Floyd being added for Leonard Floyd,

567
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Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette. I was just talking about I was just

568
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Speaker 3: talking about Leonard Floyd last segment. Leonard Fournette now at

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Speaker 3: the running back position, not a part of the defensive

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Speaker 3: line room.

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Speaker 4: But what does he add to the roster.

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Speaker 3: We know it's just a practice squad additions, so you

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Speaker 3: got to take that into thinking about everything when you

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Speaker 3: add a player like this, But what do you think

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Speaker 3: he can bring to the room if he is elevated

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Speaker 3: to play?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think you have seen just just not a

578
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Speaker 8: lot of success in the short yarded situations from Latavius

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Speaker 8: Murray so far this season. Obviously Damien Harris probably was

580
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Speaker 8: going to factor into that usage as well, and so

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Speaker 8: you know Tampa was a bit of a tough end,

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Speaker 8: but that offensive line could not really block. And so

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Speaker 8: I think you bring in a guy that historically is

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Speaker 8: awesome in short yardage, can turn those legs, get you

585
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Speaker 8: those key first downs. Obviously a very different build and

586
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Speaker 8: skill set than a James Cook but one thing that

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Speaker 8: maybe he also adds is he's a great pass blocker,

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Speaker 8: and he is a capable pass catcher, not going to

589
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Speaker 8: break off big explosive receptions like a James Cook, but

590
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Speaker 8: it always helps to keep Josh Allen upright, and then

591
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Speaker 8: maybe you do leak out and get a couple small

592
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Speaker 8: catches here and there. I like the fit for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I mean Damian Harris on ir as well.

594
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: Know that thin the crop a little bit, so you know,

595
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Speaker 2: veteran insurance, you're never gonna say no to that, especially

596
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Speaker 2: we can get a player of that caliber, you know,

597
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Speaker 2: we hear. According to some reports, the Bills could be

598
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Speaker 2: in the market for a corner. They're supposedly making calls

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Speaker 2: to the Bears about Jalen Johnson, who's a popular trade cannadate,

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Speaker 2: after he asked and received permission permission to seek a trade. First,

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Speaker 2: what do you think the likelihood is that Johnson is moved?

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Speaker 2: And second, what do you think it's going to take

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Speaker 2: to pry him away from Chicago in terms of compensation?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think generally, whenever a team gives a player

605
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Speaker 8: and his agent the right to go out and talk

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Speaker 8: to other clubs, it's a pretty good signal that a

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Speaker 8: move might happen. And I also think Chicago sending out

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Speaker 8: a second round pick from Montes Sweat maybe in their

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Speaker 8: mind they view these two moves somewhat together. I'm not

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Speaker 8: sure Johnson gets a second round pick in return compensation.

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Speaker 8: He's also probably gonna need an extension. That's obviously why

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Speaker 8: he's pushing his way out of Chicago, and so maybe

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Speaker 8: that acquiring team. I do think Buffalo is heavily involved here.

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Speaker 8: I think San Francisco is an their team to monitor.

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00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 8: They might want to work out at least the framework

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Speaker 8: of an extension beforehand. So I would say only if

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Speaker 8: it's a true bidding war, or do I see a

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Speaker 8: second otherwise I think maybe two thirds or something in

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Speaker 8: that category. Certainly a Day two pick at least will

620
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Speaker 8: be involved here for a very good young corner.

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Speaker 3: Somebody else who wants to be traded, wants to look

622
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Speaker 3: outside of the team he's currently on, and a productive

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Speaker 3: wide receivers. Wide receiver Davante Adams, who we kind of

624
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Speaker 3: have known the last couple of years that at least

625
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Speaker 3: this offseason as well, have known that he might want

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Speaker 3: to go elsewhere, might want to play elsewhere. So what

627
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Speaker 3: do you think it would take to trade for a

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Speaker 3: wide receiver like Davonte Adams.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the tough part here is if the Raiders cut bait,

630
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Speaker 8: they'd effectively be paying about forty five million dollars for

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Speaker 8: about twenty five games of Davante Adams, which is not

632
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Speaker 8: the greatest return on investment when you also factor in

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Speaker 8: the first and second round pick. And obviously I do

634
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Speaker 8: think you're still garnering a first round pick plus in

635
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 8: a move for Adams because an extremely team friendly deal

636
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Speaker 8: would be on the move then with him, because the

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Speaker 8: Raiders give him a massive signing bonus, A ton of

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Speaker 8: that would be dead cap left behind in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 8: which is why I don't think they're going to move him,

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Speaker 8: because the sunk cost here is exorbitant. But yeah, I

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Speaker 8: think a first and maybe a third or something, you know,

642
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Speaker 8: right in the wheelhouse of that original trade. I just

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Speaker 8: don't think the Raiders are going to be comfortable doing it.

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Speaker 8: Maybe this offseason, I don't think about today.

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Speaker 2: We wondered, if you know, the quarterback market was going

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Speaker 2: to be part of this day in light of all

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Speaker 2: the injuries at the quarterback position over the past couple

648
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Speaker 2: of weeks and a guy who was filling in for

649
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Speaker 2: an injured quarterback now apparently has a new destination. NFL

650
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Speaker 2: Network seeing Rapaport is reporting the Vikings are trading for

651
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Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs with the Cardinals. So guys been in the lineup.

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Speaker 2: It's not like you're signing a backup. You've got a

653
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Speaker 2: guy that's you know, going to be playing for the

654
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Speaker 2: Vikings here, knowing Kirk Cousins is done for the season.

655
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Speaker 2: The question here is how quick can you get him

656
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Speaker 2: up to speed and into the lineup. They have Nick Mullins,

657
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Speaker 2: and they have the rookie there as well, who I

658
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 2: can't his name is escaping me right now.

659
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Speaker 8: Baron Hall ought to be with you from Jaron.

660
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Speaker 2: Hall, that's right. So how quick does that guy get

661
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: up to speed? I mean it helps that he's been

662
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 2: on the field, but it's it's a different system.

663
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Speaker 8: It is a different system. I think there are two

664
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Speaker 8: interesting connections here that maybe help a little bit. He

665
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 8: doesn't know Kevin O'Connell the head coach, you know, or

666
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 8: West Phillips the offensive coordinator. However, Jonathan Gannon came up

667
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 8: with the Minnesota Vikings, you know, the last couple of

668
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 8: couple of years ago now, but he was there for

669
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Speaker 8: a long time. And also Dobbs actually shares an agent

670
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Speaker 8: with Kirk Cousins, so there are a couple of connections

671
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 8: there that maybe can help facilitate getting up to speed

672
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 8: a little bit quicker. I'm not sure if he plays

673
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Speaker 8: this Sunday for Minnesota. Maybe he does. We've got to

674
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 8: remember he was traded two weeks before Week one in

675
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 8: Arizona and made the start there. It helps to be

676
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 8: a rocket scientist, even at quarterback.

677
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 2: In the NFL.

678
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: That is funny.

679
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a smart guy for sure. So we

680
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: talked running back room for the Bills, the addition of

681
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 3: Leonard Fournette. We talked the possibility of adding somebody to

682
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: the defensive backs unit. Is there any other position group

683
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 3: that you think would be smart for the Bills to

684
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: check out here with just a couple hours remaining before

685
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Speaker 3: the trade deadline hits.

686
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I think those two are the most obvious. I

687
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 8: guess I would throw in one more is maybe add

688
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 8: a little bit of speed at wide receiver. You know,

689
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 8: maybe a guy like a Darna Mooney also in Chicago,

690
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 8: a terrorist Marshall in Carolina two. You know, young former

691
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 8: second round or former second round picking Tarist Marshall, former

692
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 8: fifth rounder in Darnagh Mooney. But you know guys that

693
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 8: can separate downfield, that can win in the deep part

694
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Speaker 8: of the field and maybe clear some room underneath for

695
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 8: all these guys in Kincaid and Stefan Diggs and a

696
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 8: lot of these guys that win in the intermediate. I

697
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 8: think maybe it's one more thing to consider. But I

698
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 8: do think corner, maybe linebacker, I suppose with the injuries

699
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 8: like you mentioned, you know, I think those make the

700
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Speaker 8: most sense.

701
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Speaker 2: And then just last question I got for you, Brad,

702
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: is which other teams maybe besides Chicago, are we expecting

703
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 2: to be active in terms of being sellers. You know,

704
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 2: we've heard Tennessee might be shipping some people out. But

705
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 2: after the performance by Will Levis last week, does that

706
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: change the dynamic there? What are some of the teams

707
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: that we still expect to be sellers today before you know,

708
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: the deadline passes.

709
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do think Tennessee might might change their perspective. Now,

710
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 8: keep guys like Derrick Henry and Anddre Hopkins in tow

711
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 8: for Will Levis, the rookie quarterback who looked great in

712
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 8: that game. You know, I still think Chicago could make

713
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 8: some move. I think Minnesota could also, you know, sell

714
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 8: off a player now that they're adding a quarterback. Think

715
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 8: offensive guard Ezra Cleveland is an interesting name to me

716
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 8: now that Dalton Risner is starting for them, he's in

717
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 8: a contract year. Cleveland is so yeah, but I think

718
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 8: it is gonna be a little bit less active because

719
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 8: a lot of those teams have won in recent weeks,

720
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 8: which maybe changes how they view things. I think Washington

721
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 8: was that was the big seller of the day, and

722
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 8: clearly they're not done.

723
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Speaker 3: Are there any names that we haven't covered that we

724
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 3: should be watching out for with just a couple hours

725
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 3: left here, we covered some of the hotter names that

726
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: have been flowed out there, But any other ones that

727
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 3: you think, you know could be on the chopping block

728
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 3: come this afternoon.

729
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 8: One that's interesting and potentially for Buffalo specifically, there's obviously

730
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 8: a million connections between you know this Carolina staff in

731
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 8: front office and building and Buffalo and cornerback Dante Jackson

732
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 8: is a guy that I think is certainly available. I

733
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 8: think is probably a fit with the Buffalo Bills cover system.

734
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Speaker 1: Make good.

735
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Speaker 8: You know, zone corner type player. He has a very

736
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 8: cheap salary this year. He is under contract next year,

737
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,439
Speaker 8: but nothing guaranteed. Maybe you tweak that in some form

738
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 8: or fashion, but maybe he's one more name to monitor

739
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 8: if they do want to make a move at cornerback.

740
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's only got a one point five point nine

741
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,439
Speaker 2: cap hit this year and then next year ten point four.

742
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: But as Brad said, you can still maneuver that or

743
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: just throw them overboard if you're not happy with what

744
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 2: you see over the last nine games. Brad, thanks as

745
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: always for the time. Enjoy keeping your ear to the

746
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: ground on the rest of trade deadline Day. All right,

747
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: that's Brad Spielberger joining us from Pro Football Focus, kind

748
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: of giving us the four to one one on what

749
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 2: could be coming down the pike here on NFL Trade

750
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: deadline Day. Yeah, Dante Jackson was a name that I

751
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 2: had on my list. That's why I had his That's

752
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: why I knew what his trap number was. Uh. And

753
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 2: he's got another year on his deal next year. And

754
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: of course we all know the the Carolina to Buffalo

755
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 2: pipeline that has existed ever since Brandon be and Sean

756
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: McDermott got here, not that they know him. He got

757
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: there long after those two were gone, But there's still

758
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 2: clearly some kind of connection going on between Buffalo's front

759
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: office and that of Carolina. The other corner that I

760
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 2: thought might be moved because I was trying to go

761
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 2: through like all of the teams that you know, really

762
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: aren't having great seasons and may look to shed some money.

763
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: So in Green Bay's not having a great year, you know,

764
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot of what are they three

765
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: and five? I want to say, maybe two and six.

766
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: So like Rasul Douglas the corner up there. I like him,

767
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: a big, tall, rangy corner, plays in the zone, and

768
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: his cap figure is like less than a million right now,

769
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 2: so I think he could be an affordable option if

770
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: they wanted to look at him, and has played in

771
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: zone defenses before. And he's also that tall, long guy

772
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: that they like. He's six two two oh nine as

773
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: a nose for the ball, so I kind of my

774
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: eyes were kind of drawn to him a little bit,

775
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 2: you know. In addition to the Jalen Johnson talk that

776
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: we've heard, and then Dante Jackson that Brad just brought up.

777
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: So that's another name that I think could be considered

778
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: because he's affordable, experienced in this kind of a system,

779
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 2: and he's not a rental because he still has another

780
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: year left on his contract next year, and it's even

781
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 2: less than the cost for Dante Jackson. It's like eight

782
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: and change next year. So because what we're looking at,

783
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: Maddie is the unknown with Trudevius White going forward, So

784
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: you may not just be interested in a rental this

785
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 2: year to cover for Trudeavius White because we're talking about

786
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: an acl injury followed by an achilles to the same

787
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 2: leg that. I mean, Look, I believe in Tradevius White

788
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 2: as much as the next person, but that's that's a

789
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 2: tough two years of rehab to kind of come back

790
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 2: from and be the same guy come the start of

791
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: next season. So for me, maybe you kind of bank

792
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: on a little more insurance, you know.

793
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, that's

794
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 3: the big question is when he returns from this rehab process,

795
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 3: whenever that may be, still has a lot of time

796
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: left to go, not until next season we won't see him,

797
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: But what type of player are we going to get?

798
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: We know it took Trey, you know, a ramp up

799
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: period once he started to get into the into games

800
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 3: just like it would any other player. But we were

801
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 3: finally starting to see some glimpses of the old All

802
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: Pro Tradevious White in some games this season. Started to

803
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,479
Speaker 3: see it in training camp, and the coaching staff said,

804
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 3: you know, he's really confident right now. He's he's putting

805
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: in the time and the effort and and we're starting

806
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: to see this, this old version of himself, which is

807
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 3: the best version of Tridevious White out on the field again.

808
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 3: So what is that going to look like coming off

809
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 3: of now two injuries? Hopefully we see a Tridevious White

810
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 3: that we know and love, the one that led the

811
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: NFL in interceptions at one point, but that's not a given.

812
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 3: We don't know what's what that's going to look like.

813
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 3: So wanting to look for other cornerbacks, look for guys

814
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 3: who can provide some depth in that room, I think

815
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: is smart, whether it's going to be here, whether it's

816
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: going to be at the end of the season.

817
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about the Josh Dobbs trade quickly

818
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 2: here before we go to break is Dobbs gets shipped

819
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: off to Minnesota. Okay, great, you presumably are getting some

820
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 2: draft capital in return for him. But Kyler Murray isn't

821
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 2: quite ready to play yet, so their rookie Clayton toone

822
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: is probably going to be the starter this week according

823
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: to reports, So not that that's a major issue, but

824
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 2: it's kind of interesting, like it's going to make the

825
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: trade now because it's the deadline. Like the timing didn't

826
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: line up perfectly for the Cardinals, but Josh Jobbs was

827
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,439
Speaker 2: an effective rental for them. He wasn't terrible, he wasn't

828
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: fantastic either, but at least he kind of helped them

829
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: stay afloat, I guess in tread water for the first

830
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: half of the season, and then they probably hope that

831
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: you know, Murray can get back in the lineup in

832
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks here, but it's Clayton too

833
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: and this week probably for the Cardinals out there, so

834
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: that'll be an interesting thing to see. I know they

835
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 2: were excited about him in the preseason, but still still

836
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: waiting on Murray, who I know they'd probably rather have

837
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 2: in the lineup. Break time for us here. When Mat

838
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 2: and I come back, we'll get back to the phones.

839
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: Ato three five fifty. Who has surprised you the most?

840
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: On this Bill's roster through the first half of the season.

841
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: We want your answers on that. Next here on One

842
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Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented.

843
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Speaker 9: By Colida Health, it's Buffalo Bills Radio.

844
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown

845
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: mightdy glab with you here on a Tuesday, and we're

846
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: talking about players that have surprised you the most on

847
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: this Bill's roster through the first half of the season.

848
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: Ado three, five fifty to jump on board. Let's go

849
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: right back to the phones and we go to Judy

850
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: and Buffalo next. What do you got for us?

851
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 5: Judy, Well, so far, I'm not surprised by anybody, but

852
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 5: I am impressed. I don't think he gets enough credit.

853
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 5: Dan Dawkins. He's protected the quarterback, he has helped the

854
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 5: run game, he has not incurred any significant penalties. And

855
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 5: I just think that we need to give a little

856
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 5: shout out to Dan Dawkins at this point.

857
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I'm all for that, man. You just what

858
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: are your.

859
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: Thoughts on d I think Dion's had a great season

860
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: so far. He's done a good job of protecting Josh Allen.

861
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 3: I mean, the protection this year from the offensive line

862
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 3: I think has been super consistent to start the season.

863
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 3: We saw another great game from them against the Tampa

864
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers where Josh did average a way quicker time

865
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 3: to throw, but when he needed time in the pocket,

866
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 3: when he wanted time in the pocket, he had all

867
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 3: day to make some throws. I think there was one

868
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: deep ball to Khalil Shakir where Josh had like five

869
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: seconds of time in the pocket to do what he

870
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 3: wanted to do and nobody.

871
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 4: Was leaking through.

872
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: And that's props to guys like Dion Dawkins who who

873
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: has been there and done that for several years. And

874
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 3: I think you're seeing an elevation his played this season

875
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 3: because of the guys that are around him who are

876
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 3: also playing at a pretty high level. So I think, yeah,

877
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 3: I would say his play has been awesome to see

878
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: so far this season.

879
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, last week against Tampa I kind of took note

880
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: of it watching it happen. In the run game. There

881
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: are plays that they run where Dion will pull from

882
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: his left tackle spot and come all the way around

883
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: the right side of the formation as a lead blocker

884
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 2: on runs off right tackle in that mid zone run

885
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 2: that they like to use. And I asked Eric about it,

886
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: and actually we'll have Eric Wood or not Eric would

887
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: Danie Orlovski coming up? We have Eric on mondays I'll

888
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 2: be all right. But I asked Eric about it. I said, look,

889
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: how often do we see that in run game schemes

890
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: where a tackle pulls all the way across the line

891
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: and gets outside on a kickout block to kind of

892
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 2: create space for the running back to come through the hole.

893
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: And he said, yeah, he goes that's not a common

894
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: practice by a lot of teams in the league. You know,

895
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: there's maybe three four guys that can do that. That

896
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: just speaks to the athleticism of Dion and the versatility

897
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: that he can give your run game scheme. When he

898
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: can do that get all the way across the formation

899
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: and kick out before the running back gets to the

900
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I mean, that's a long way to

901
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: go get all the way out there for a three

902
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five pound dude, but he can pull

903
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 2: it off. So I just think he gives them versatility

904
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 2: in the run game in addition to the consistency of

905
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: his play. We are going to take a break here

906
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: because when we come back, our number two, as I corrected,

907
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: myself will be ESPN NFL analyst Dan Orlowski making his

908
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: weekly appearance here. We'll get his thoughts on the changes

909
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: we witnessed on Thursday Night Football in Buffalo's offense, and

910
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 2: we will also get a preview of just how much

911
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 2: this Cincinnati offense has rounded into form of late and

912
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: the challenge they present when we return here on One

913
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914
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Speaker 2: dot Com. All right, Dan, we're making the turn here

923
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 2: at the midway point of the season, and it looks

924
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 2: like the Bills have discovered something on offense based on

925
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: their last performance against Tampa. They may go back to

926
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: their roots to some degree, but some people feel they

927
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: may have also defined some roles a little bit more

928
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 2: effectively with what we saw from Kincaid the last two

929
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: weeks and maybe a little bit of an emergence from

930
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 2: Khalil Shakir.

931
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that the challenge coming off of last week,

932
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 7: So the good of last week. Obviously, the tempo helped

933
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 7: eleven personnel a little bit more spread out, The execution

934
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 7: was really good. Shakira in the slot was really good.

935
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 7: Challenge for Ken and we kind of talked about this

936
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 7: last week, was like, when that eleven personnel looks good

937
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 7: and plays well, how do they mesh it into some

938
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 7: of the twelve stuff when Dawson comes back?

939
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 10: You know?

940
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 7: So I think that's gonna be their biggest challenge is

941
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's a set answer, Chris. I

942
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 7: don't know if it's like, hey, we got to live

943
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 7: in eleven or we got to live in twelve. I

944
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 7: think a little bit is opponent dependent. I think a

945
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 7: little bit is how consistently can they play in that world.

946
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 7: I think a little bit is, you know, how are

947
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 7: they able to create explosives and and find explosives and

948
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 7: both of those personnel groupings, but every time, not every time,

949
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 7: but it certainly feels like Shakira has got a spot,

950
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 7: a worthy spot for completion driven plays in that offense.

951
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 7: So really good performance, much needed performance. But I don't

952
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 7: know if I would walk away going okay, eleven personnel

953
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 7: is going to be who we are.

954
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Another factor of the offense was we saw a design

955
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: quarterback run for Josh Allen on that first drive.

956
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 4: Of the game.

957
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 3: He got to use his legs a little bit, and

958
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: we heard from Sean McDermott afterwards and he said that

959
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 3: was a focus we wanted to get him going like that. Again,

960
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 3: how much do you think or how important do you

961
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 3: think it is for a quarterback like Josh Allen to

962
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: be able to use that facet of the game.

963
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 7: Yeah, Madi, So I remember two years ago when it

964
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 7: was a little bit more prevalent, and I still very

965
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 7: much so believe this. When he's used in that capacity,

966
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 7: he's the most indefensible quarterback in football. And that's said

967
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 7: in respect with and everyone knows how highly I think

968
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 7: of Patrick. He's the best player I've ever seen in

969
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 7: my life in Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson. But when

970
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 7: he Josh is used in that way, it's almost impossible

971
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 7: to stop him. And I think the reason so the

972
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 7: reasons why they don't do that, I understand as more

973
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 7: as much as they used to. I completely understand. And

974
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,280
Speaker 7: there's a lot of evidence and data experience from Sean

975
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 7: in Carolina that says, you know, you got to be

976
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 7: really smart about how you're going to do it. I

977
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 7: think there's two things that it matters when it comes

978
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 7: to using it more for Josh, you gotta do it right,

979
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 7: I think number one. And you learn this a little

980
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 7: bit when you call college football games. If you ever

981
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 7: sat down with a really good college football coach and

982
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 7: had who had a quarterback that was a really dynamic athlete,

983
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 7: every one of them would tell you to get that

984
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 7: guy into the flow of the game. They're gonna call

985
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 7: runs early on. They just do because they're different than

986
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 7: your traditional dropback passer. If we if we talked about

987
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 7: drop back passers, one of the things that coaches do

988
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 7: is they say, we got let's get in completions early

989
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 7: to get them into the rhythm of the game. You

990
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 7: know these these ball completion efficient quarterbacks. Well, Josh's is

991
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 7: one of those dynamic quarterbacks. And if you talk to

992
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 7: a college coach to what I'm saying, like, they'll tell

993
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 7: you early on, get them, we want to get him

994
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 7: involved in the game. He just settles into the game

995
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 7: once he takes a hit or two in regards to that,

996
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 7: So I think there's some credence to that. In Buffalo

997
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 7: with Josh, I think the second thing, and you guys

998
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 7: are showing these clips of in many ways their completions.

999
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 7: They did not run a lot of different plays. They

1000
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 7: didn't they ran like five or six different plays for

1001
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 7: the most part. They were ten plus twelve plus RPOs.

1002
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 7: But I do think that when Josh plays, and he

1003
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 7: was just on with Kevin Clark the other day and

1004
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 7: talking about like completions, completions, completions, completions, completions, When Josh

1005
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 7: plays in a way where he's just very focused on

1006
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 7: getting the ball out and throwing it to the right

1007
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 7: guy in different of the situation, the explosive plays or

1008
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 7: the big plays or the playmaking opportunities present themselves so

1009
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 7: much more consistently.

1010
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 10: It's just the way the game goes in many ways.

1011
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 7: And I think that is probably the thing that you

1012
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 7: try to focus on if you're Ken Dorsey and Joe Brady.

1013
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to the simplification point that you just made

1014
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: in terms of volume of plays that the Bills ran

1015
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 2: last week, gave Davis said going into the game, we

1016
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: want to simplify this week, and then coming out of

1017
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 2: the game, he said, that's what we can be when

1018
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 2: we simplify things and just let guys play fast. We're

1019
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: that talented. I don't know if that's necessarily one hundred

1020
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: percent accurate answer, but I thought maybe the most interesting

1021
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 2: thing was I saw Gabe Davis run a quick slant,

1022
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 2: maybe for the first or second time in his Buffalo career.

1023
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: I was like, who's this guy underneath? And they ran

1024
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 2: him on some receiver screens because it's like, all right,

1025
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: let's get the two hundred and twenty five pound receiver

1026
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 2: running a receiver screen. At least you know he can

1027
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: break a tackle or two and get some yards on

1028
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: his own. So there were some different elements sprinkled in,

1029
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 2: even though it was simple, because they had different people

1030
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: kind of filling some unconventional roles then we're accustomed to

1031
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: seeing from them, Davis being a prime example. My question though,

1032
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 2: going forward is while that tempo stuff was all great,

1033
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: it requires an enormous amount of communication. They got to

1034
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: play on the road Sunday night in Cincinnati. How realistic

1035
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 2: is it you're gonna be able to do that stuff?

1036
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:07,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1037
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 7: I mean it's if you are really good in your

1038
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:16,080
Speaker 7: nonverbal communication and it's something that you can do seamlessly,

1039
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 7: you're absolutely capable of doing it in different of where

1040
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 7: you're doing it, you know, outside of maybe you know,

1041
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 7: Seattle or Kansas City. Cincinnati will be loud, but it's

1042
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 7: it's all about how comfortable you feel and your ability

1043
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 7: to kind of communicate. I think that the christal ways

1044
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,919
Speaker 7: that you can do it are when you say, hey,

1045
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 7: we're going to start and once we get a first down,

1046
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 7: we're going to get into it. You know, like you

1047
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 7: get you're on defense, you force a three and ll

1048
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 7: whatever the other team punchs the ball, You start with

1049
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 7: your possession, you get a first down, and then we

1050
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 7: can get into it. Because the noise so often in

1051
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 7: that situation is not going to be that big of

1052
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 7: a deal. The biggest focus is going to be how

1053
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 7: often or how much you can handle your third down package.

1054
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 7: You know, like you can call a lot of different

1055
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 7: plays from your base plan on third and two or

1056
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 7: third and three in tempo because usually teams are going

1057
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 7: to be stuck in their defensive personnel. But if you

1058
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 7: get to third and six and third and seven, you

1059
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 7: probably want to have a little bit more game plan

1060
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 7: specific calls.

1061
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:11,839
Speaker 10: How many of.

1062
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 7: Those formations and certain sets that you're kind of referencing

1063
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,319
Speaker 7: with Gabe a little bit last week can they get

1064
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 7: to without having to huddle? That's probably their greatest challenge,

1065
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 7: And usually the case is you have to huddle in

1066
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 7: those moments and that changes obviously the tempo. I don't

1067
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 7: you know, like there's there's a case to be made

1068
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 7: for running a lot of the same plays on a

1069
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 7: consistent basis with different interchangeable parts. The problem is you

1070
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 7: become predictable, like you can become you know, there's they

1071
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 7: ran the same like two by two rpo in three

1072
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 7: by one rpo like four or five times.

1073
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 10: It's there is a predictability to that.

1074
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 7: Now, there's also a benefit to playing fast, but you

1075
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 7: better have you know, the curveball and the change up

1076
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 7: and the slider and all the different options off of

1077
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 7: those looks to make sure that you're not incredibly predictable

1078
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 7: with your types of plays.

1079
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, So meshing that tempo, with some of that unpredictability

1080
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: and some of the counters off of things. Where do

1081
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: the Bills go from here offensively? Because we're sitting at

1082
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 3: week nine, they're about to have a tough stretch here

1083
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: with the Bengals, the Jets, the Eagles, and the Chiefs

1084
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 3: coming up in the next four to five weeks. What

1085
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: do you want to see from this offense as their

1086
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: identity really starts to take shape and take form.

1087
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you know, one, obviously, the the eleven

1088
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 7: personnel probably is going to be the focal point for

1089
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 7: the next couple of weeks. Obviously with Dawson's injury, this

1090
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 7: I'll speak to directly to their next you know, four

1091
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 7: weeks before the buy, I think the identity of the

1092
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 7: Bengals is going to be I'll tell everybody right now,

1093
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 7: this defensive coordinator is as good as there is in ball.

1094
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 7: Lou An Arruma for the Bengals, and he had Kyle

1095
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 7: Shanahan figured out. And Kyle Shanahan is one of the

1096
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 7: greatest and most creative offensive mines in football.

1097
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 10: He had him figured out.

1098
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 7: I promise you he is going to multiple times have

1099
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 7: six or seven guys up at the line of scrimmage

1100
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 7: and then drop all of them and they're gonna rush

1101
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:17,479
Speaker 7: two guys, They're gonna rush three grid guys. They're gonna

1102
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,959
Speaker 7: have a ton of people in underneath coverage, and they're

1103
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 7: gonna force Josh to be very patient, force job. They're

1104
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 7: gonna force Ken Dorsey to call runs. They're gonna force

1105
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 7: some of the RPO looks. That's a little bit of

1106
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 7: what Philip, excuse me, the Jets did the Philadelphia and

1107
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 7: their RPO game is you take it away before the

1108
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 7: snap with bodies at the line of scrimmage. So I

1109
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 7: think identity wise, it's gonna that's that's where some of

1110
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 7: the temple will present itself. I think some of the

1111
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 7: perimeter screens have to be a little bit more of

1112
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:47,160
Speaker 7: the conversation.

1113
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 10: I know, Chris, we've talked about that for a couple

1114
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 10: of weeks. Now, you burn teams at that. All you

1115
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 10: need to do is.

1116
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 7: Hit him once for fifteen or twenty yards and then

1117
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 7: they're like, uh oh, you know, that's a concern. The

1118
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 7: the the Broncos are playing better defensively, but you should

1119
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 7: go and be able to execute on a consistent basis.

1120
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 10: Against Denver, the Jets game.

1121
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 7: I would imagine Josh will complete, you know, seventy five

1122
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 7: plus percent of his passes in that game, especially after

1123
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 7: what we saw Week one, and in Philadelphia is a

1124
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 7: massive game, just because Philadelphia is so physical offensive and

1125
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 7: defensive lines. I think their identity has to be RPOs.

1126
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 7: I think it has to be a little bit of tempo.

1127
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 7: I think it has to be very bald, distribution focused.

1128
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 7: The challenge is going to be where where did the

1129
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 7: chunk plays from? That's going to be their challenge. Can

1130
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 7: they find ways to create chunk plays and design chunk

1131
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 7: plays rather than be reliant on Josh to making them happen.

1132
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's just look specifically at the next opponent here, Cincinnati,

1133
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 2: particularly on that defensive side of the ball, where I

1134
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: think we could agree the biggest change is at the

1135
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: safety positions this season. You know, both of the guys

1136
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 2: that started last year are elsewhere, departed in free agency,

1137
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 2: and now you have the former first round pick Dax

1138
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 2: Hill and the veteran Nick Scott who comes over from

1139
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,959
Speaker 2: the Rams. How have they meshed together through the first

1140
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: half of the season. Are there perceived deficiencies from the

1141
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: veteran duo that they had a year ago.

1142
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,919
Speaker 7: They don't lie as well as von Bell and Jesse Bates, did,

1143
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 7: you know. And what I mean by that is and

1144
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 7: they're not bad at it, but Vaughn and Jesse were

1145
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,080
Speaker 7: unbelievable with lying to quarterbacks.

1146
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 10: You know, what's the coverage? You'd sit there.

1147
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 7: I would sit there and watch tape and I go,

1148
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 7: I have no idea. If this is Cover four or

1149
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 7: Cover three, I got no idea. If this is Cover

1150
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 7: two or Cover four, Cover six, You got no idea

1151
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 7: if it's Cover three or Cover three. Carry And I

1152
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 7: know that's deep in the weeds for but they're different

1153
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 7: coverages and they tell quarterbacks to do what with the

1154
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 7: football differently. And I remember I called the Cincinnati Rams game.

1155
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 7: I think it was Week two of the NFL season,

1156
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 7: maybe week three, and Louis n rum Of, the defense coordinator,

1157
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 7: was like very high on player Lake Dax Hill and

1158
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 7: even like DJ Turner and Cam Taylor Britt who are

1159
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 7: playing corner a little bit. But he was just like,

1160
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 7: they need to get playing time, they need reps, and

1161
01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 7: they need that communication that hey, if I do this,

1162
01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 7: I need you to do this. And it's starting to

1163
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 7: show itself in Cincinnati Hilton's playing awesome.

1164
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 10: Everybody's gonna know about him their nickel.

1165
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 7: So I would say the difference is not lying as

1166
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,920
Speaker 7: well Chris, but not poorly. And then Dak Sill is

1167
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 7: a different athlete though like he is a With all

1168
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 7: due respect to Vaughn and Jesse, I have a tremendous

1169
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 7: amount of respect for I think they're two of the

1170
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 7: better safeties in ball. He's a different athlete. I mean

1171
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 7: he plays at a different speed than those guys did,

1172
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 7: and so the speed that he plays with and the

1173
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 7: tracking ability that he plays with and the ability to

1174
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 7: tackle in the open field is a big deal. And

1175
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 7: their young secondary is starting to play really good football.

1176
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 3: The Bengals start the season one in three. They are

1177
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: now four and three. They've won the last three games

1178
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 3: in a row. Scored thirty one points on the forty

1179
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 3: nine er, scored three four on the Cardinals. So they're

1180
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 3: starting to get to that high efficiency offense again.

1181
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: Do you think they're back?

1182
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 3: Do you think we're gonna see another talented game from

1183
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: this offense. I know the Bill's defense will present some challenges,

1184
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 3: but just looking at their offense, do you think they're

1185
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 3: back to their winning ways?

1186
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 7: Resounding, Yes, resounding, And you started to see it just

1187
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 7: a little bit before the bye weekend again, I saying,

1188
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 7: you know, talking about Cincinnati and everyone that felt had

1189
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 7: written them off or written them off, and I.

1190
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 10: Was like, dude, all they have to do is to

1191
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 10: get to three and three. I don't care what it

1192
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 10: looks like.

1193
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 7: Keep Joe healthy and get to three and three in

1194
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 7: the bye And that showed itself this past week.

1195
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 10: I think the overwhelming thing that.

1196
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 7: Stood out were the four or five snaps that Joe

1197
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 7: had to go create. They ran quarterback draw with him,

1198
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 7: he got out of a crazy sack, he made three

1199
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 7: or four plays with his feet, and all of a sudden,

1200
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 7: you sit there and go if you're the rest of

1201
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 7: the sea, uh oh.

1202
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 10: Because they were.

1203
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 7: In trying to get everyone to understand this. The CAF

1204
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 7: injury for Joe affected everybody. It didn't just affect the quarterback.

1205
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 7: You know how hard it is to play offensive line

1206
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 7: when everybody on the defense knows the quarterback is going

1207
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 7: to be six yards behind the center and that's it

1208
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 7: can't move, or how much it affects the receiver.

1209
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 10: So yeah, he's all the way back.

1210
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,680
Speaker 7: Their offense looks all the way back Jamar, I think, like,

1211
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 7: if you're looking at it from the Buffalo perspective, I

1212
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 7: think the thing that has to have obviously, the movement

1213
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 7: is has your attention. The thing that has your attention

1214
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 7: is how they were very strategic attacking San Francisco's nickel corner.

1215
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,920
Speaker 7: They sat there and said, hey, San Francisco, like, you're

1216
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 7: gonna play a ton of man, which is abnormal for them,

1217
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 7: and there's not a guy that we think can cover

1218
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 7: our guys. And it was like the boy touchdown early on,

1219
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 7: they it was one hundred percent, I'm a break tendency

1220
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 7: and attack man coverage. The Jamar touchdown, it's one hundred percent.

1221
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 7: We just want to get him on the nickel. And

1222
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 7: I've said this to you guys, Buffalo's got to be

1223
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 7: really smart if they're gonna play man coverage because Cincinnati obviously,

1224
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,920
Speaker 7: and the talent they have on the perimeter and the

1225
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 7: way that they're going about attacking certain people in man

1226
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 7: coverage is something that is very impressive.

1227
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 2: All right, So let's take that a step further, Dan,

1228
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 2: because maybe the biggest change in this matchup from last

1229
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 2: year is McDermott's calling the defense now. So what have

1230
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 2: you seen, especially in the last two or three weeks,

1231
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 2: from McDermott's defense that might present something different to the

1232
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 2: Cincinnati offense because I think everybody for the last four

1233
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 2: years has said, all right, well the Bills are just

1234
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 2: gonna line up in nickel and here they come. There

1235
01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 2: weren't a lot of surprises. There wasn't a lot of unpredictability.

1236
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 2: To what degree have they increased those quotients? And if

1237
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: you could part two the tailor rap insertion, I mean,

1238
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 2: thirty eight percent in dime last week. How much do

1239
01:03:57,880 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: we expect to see that going forward?

1240
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1241
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 7: I think you know, talking about after the Tampa game,

1242
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 7: that was like the interesting thing defensive We we talked it

1243
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,560
Speaker 7: about a lot on NFL Live with Ryan Clark. It

1244
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 7: was it was really good to see it certainly helped

1245
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 7: in their past coverage. And you saw Poyer drop down,

1246
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: you saw Mica drop down. You know, Taylor was often

1247
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 7: one of the deep safeties, certainly the single deep safety.

1248
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 7: And so you sat there and said, because the conversation,

1249
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 7: the coverage, you know, how can they survive you know

1250
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 7: Milano and then Tredevius and his injury, and you know,

1251
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 7: it seemed the answer, you know against Tempa was they

1252
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 7: were gonna play with those three safeties and have one

1253
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 7: of those very skilled veterans downing coverage, sometimes zone, sometimes man.

1254
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 7: It'll be really interesting to see if they do that

1255
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 7: versus Cincinnati. It makes a lot of sense to do

1256
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 7: it versus Cincinnati. Cincinnati does not get in a lot

1257
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 7: of unique personnels. They're gonna live in a lot of

1258
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 7: eleven personnel as well, one back, one tight end to

1259
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 7: live in a lot of of RPO formations. They're very

1260
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 7: RPO centric right now as well. For their running their

1261
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 7: quick passing game. It makes a lot of sense to

1262
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 7: play their three safeties. I just don't know how much

1263
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:13,520
Speaker 7: sense it makes to play man. And the last thing

1264
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 7: is Cincinnati's actually run the ball relatively well, and with

1265
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 7: those three safeties, you're light, you just are, and that

1266
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 7: has to have a little bit of attention right well.

1267
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 2: And that's the reason I asked it because as we know,

1268
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 2: in the playoff game last year, they ran all over

1269
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: them with three backup offensive linemen. Granted the Bills didn't

1270
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: have Dayikwon Jones in that game either. They won't have

1271
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 2: them this week as we know. And I think the BYPROD.

1272
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 2: The reason we're seeing dime is because they want a

1273
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 2: better answer in coverage because they don't have Milano. I

1274
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: don't think they feel like Dorian Williams is ready to

1275
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 2: make the right decisions and see the things fast enough

1276
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: he needs to to be a good coverage linebacker, and

1277
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: Dotson is just a little limited in his physical skill

1278
01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 2: set to be a quality coverage linebacker. So Poyer and

1279
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: Hyde have been flipped into that role with this dime package.

1280
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: But to your point, Cincinnati, the way they ran the

1281
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: football on this team last year, that's a concern. You

1282
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: can't just sit in that dime all day.

1283
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1284
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 7: I'll be interested to see if Sean sits there and says,

1285
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 7: over the course of four quarters, to beat the Bengals,

1286
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 7: or to give yourself the best chance to beat the Bengals,

1287
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 7: you gotta stop the pass game first, you gotta cover

1288
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 7: really well, you gotta tackle really well. Again, the RPOs

1289
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 7: I'll be very interesting to see if they somehow think

1290
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 7: of deploying five defensive linemen and playing the three safety look,

1291
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 7: you know, just to sit there and go protect a

1292
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 7: little bit at least the initial surge of the line

1293
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 7: of scrimmage and allow a hat on a hat in

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Speaker 7: maybe not as many offensive linemen that climb up to

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Speaker 7: some of the lighter backer or safeties or secondary players

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Speaker 7: that might have to be in the run conversation. That

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Speaker 7: would be something that I would sit there and say,

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Speaker 7: if you're going to play those three safeties, which I understand, like,

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Speaker 7: I get it, I understand it. It's easy for us

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Speaker 7: to sit here and say, well, we got to figure

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Speaker 7: out a replacement for Milano. Gosh, yeah, there's not a

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Speaker 7: lot of humans on the planet that can. So that

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Speaker 7: would be the one thing that I would if I

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Speaker 7: was the offensive team, if I was Cincinnati, that would

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Speaker 7: be the wrinkle that I would go, Okay, how do

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Speaker 7: we handle that?

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Speaker 3: The Bills on defense and the Bengals on defense are

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Speaker 3: both top five in terms of taking the football away?

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Speaker 3: On offense, both teams are in top ten and red

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Speaker 3: zone efficiency. Bills are second and the Bengals are tied

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Speaker 3: for ninth. Why are these two categories really important in

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Speaker 3: a game like this?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because right now in the NFL, the scoring is down,

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Speaker 7: and so every giveaway is going to be a little

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Speaker 7: almost like one and a half. Because the scoring is down,

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Speaker 7: the explosive plays are down, so that's a big deal

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Speaker 7: in then obviously red zone scoring. The really interesting thing

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Speaker 7: is the two teams do it differently. What's up likeke

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Speaker 7: to you, Cincinnati does it off of like precision. They're

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Speaker 7: very precise in the red zone and for a passing team,

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01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 7: Mixon has been really good running the ball down there,

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Speaker 7: and Buffalo does it from Josh just being a freak

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Speaker 7: and so more often than not.

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Speaker 10: And so you know, which.

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Speaker 7: One of those defenses can try to make that offense

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Speaker 7: play a little bit left handed or to their B

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Speaker 7: game or the less desired style is probably gonna be

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Speaker 7: the most important thing. But when you when explosive plays

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Speaker 7: are down and red zone scoring is down and get takeaways,

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Speaker 7: you know, have such a tremendous amount of impact when

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Speaker 7: it comes to lesser possessions scoring, all that stuff. I

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Speaker 7: hate those kind of cliches in the NFL because I

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 7: feel like I'm paid to do so much more than

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01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 7: tell people that it'll come down to turnovers. So I don't.

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Speaker 7: I don't necessarily I try to sit there and tell

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01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 7: everybody like it's what the turnover leads to. You know,

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 7: if Josh throw's two interceptions and the defense finds a

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 7: to get off the field. Well, the turnovers never happened

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01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 7: in my eyes, and so I think that's the thing,

1340
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,919
Speaker 7: is like, you know, when the turnover happens, how it happens,

1341
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,280
Speaker 7: and what does the other team do with it is

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Speaker 7: probably the biggest focus point.

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Speaker 2: Dan. Thanks, it's always for the time. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 10: Thanks, guys, having good week.

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Speaker 7: Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Dan Orlovsky joining US Sunday Night Football Bills Bengals. He's

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Speaker 2: breaking it down and yeah, I mean, I'm very curious

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01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: because they started using some dime again against the Patriots

1350
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 2: two weeks ago, but it was only like six or

1351
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,840
Speaker 2: eight snaps of it. And keep in mind that was

1352
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: when Dorian Williams starts the game and gets sent to

1353
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: the sidelines and they brought Dotson in. Then they tried

1354
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 2: dime after that, and then they get to the Thursday

1355
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 2: night game four days later and they play thirty eight

1356
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 2: snaps or sorry, thirty eight percent of their snaps were

1357
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 2: in the package. So really really interesting change on a

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Speaker 2: short week to see it increase to that degree. And

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Speaker 2: I wonder what the plan is this week for Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: just knowing how dynamic they are on offense.

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Speaker 3: And you think about what Seawan McDermott says all the

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Speaker 3: time when we ask him about lineup changes and maybe

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Speaker 3: what they're in and why they decided to do that,

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Speaker 3: and a lot of the times the answer falls back

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Speaker 3: to it's because of who I trust the most. I'm

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Speaker 3: putting the guys in that I trust the most, that

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Speaker 3: I trust that can make the plays, that know the

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Speaker 3: offense or defense and can be impactful in it. And

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Speaker 3: if those are the guys he trusts more than other guys,

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Speaker 3: then maybe we're going to see some more DIN looks,

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Speaker 3: especially coming against a team that is starting to get

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01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 3: back to their old ways and can score a lot

1373
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 3: of points, and there's multiple guys on the outside that

1374
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 3: you have to shut down, so maybe you want to

1375
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 3: use a couple more dbs in there. But I thought

1376
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 3: it was interesting dani Rolovski's point about maybe trying the

1377
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: look with another defensive lineman so you can get that

1378
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,840
Speaker 3: push at the line of scrimmage.

1379
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so just basically one linebacker on the field, which

1380
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:13,679
Speaker 2: is presumably Bernard, and then yeah, five in the back

1381
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: covering and then five up front. That would be wacky.

1382
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,640
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it before, but sometimes necessity is the

1383
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: mother of invention here and without players like a Milano

1384
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,679
Speaker 2: or Richard Avius White or even a day Kwon Jones,

1385
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to dip into that bag of creativity

1386
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,560
Speaker 2: to come up with a unique answer in a specific

1387
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:40,280
Speaker 2: game plan for a specific opponent and then cross your

1388
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: fingers and hope.

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Speaker 4: It works right.

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Speaker 3: And to that point, though, I think it's yes, it's

1391
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:46,760
Speaker 3: not a positive that the Bills do have to go

1392
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 3: into the bag of creativity and try to figure something

1393
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 3: out because we wish they had Matt Milano and day

1394
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:55,520
Speaker 3: Kwon Jones in there. But I do think it's positive

1395
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,080
Speaker 3: in that they're able to do that. They have the

1396
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 3: pieces to be able to switch things aroun and still

1397
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:04,280
Speaker 3: be very efficient as a defense and still be able

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01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 3: to take the ball away at a high rate and

1399
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,879
Speaker 3: be able to rush the quarterback and sack the quarterback

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Speaker 3: at a high rate. If you're looking at other defenses

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01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 3: across the NFL, there's not a lot of defenses that

1402
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 3: can switch on a short week to play a whole

1403
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:21,719
Speaker 3: lot more dime and allow what did they allow seventeen points?

1404
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 4: Eighteen points?

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01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on top of that, what they have this

1406
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: week is more time. They had a mini buy, but

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01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 2: the coaches essentially had three extra days to prepare for Cincinnati,

1408
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 2: so lying in wait and maybe getting a little more

1409
01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 2: creative with the defensive game plan for this Bengals team,

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01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 2: which is very quickly rounding into form here at just

1411
01:12:46,240 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: the right time as we come down the back stretch

1412
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Speaker 2: of the schedule. We're going to take a break here.

1413
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Speaker 2: But when we come back, your phone calls and some

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Speaker 2: comments on the tweet sheet halfway point of the season,

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Speaker 2: which Bills player prized you the most? You let us

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Speaker 2: know at aight oh three zero five to fifty won

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Speaker 2: open lines for you there, Give us a callble chat

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Speaker 2: winners in the Buffalo Region Section six Star points. Tim

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Speaker 2: Racy after leading the Spartans to a sixteen to fourteen

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Speaker 2: of the Week is Brighton Steve Leon after his team

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Speaker 2: We do have a trade alert people. There is another trade.

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01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 2: This time it's an offensive lineman. The Vikings are trading

1434
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 2: guard Ezra Cleveland, the guy that Brad Spielberger mentioned in

1435
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: our first hour of the show as a possible trade

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01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:21,880
Speaker 2: candidate to the Jaguars. So, according to sources, the former

1437
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,800
Speaker 2: second round pick goes to Jacksonville and he's going to

1438
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: rejoin the offensive line coach he had earlier in his

1439
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 2: career in Minnesota, Phil Rauscher, is now down there with

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: the Jags. So the Jags fortify their offensive line. So,

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: got about ninety minutes to go? And what do you got?

1442
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 10: Mad?

1443
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,599
Speaker 2: You got some updates on Jalen Johnson here? What's going on?

1444
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1445
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 3: So I follow a couple Bears people on Twitter since

1446
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 3: that's the team I was born and raised watching and

1447
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 3: one of the guys who covers that team and has

1448
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 3: for a while says that the Bears have put a

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 3: high asking price on the cornerback Jalen Johnson, and so

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01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 3: we'll have to wait and see if something happens, whether

1451
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 3: it's the Bills, whether it's another team, if anybody wants

1452
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 3: to kind of engage in trade talks when it happens

1453
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 3: to be a high asking price, and.

1454
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 2: Knowing that his agent is kind of the one involved

1455
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,640
Speaker 2: in the trade talks, you have to believe he is

1456
01:15:17,680 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 2: also trying to secure a team as a trade candidate

1457
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,440
Speaker 2: that's also interested in signing him to a contract extension,

1458
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: knowing he's in the final year of his deal. So

1459
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 2: what assurances teams can give on that front may also

1460
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: be part of this equation here to factor in. It

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01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,680
Speaker 2: might not just be hey, we're pretty close to the compensation,

1462
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 2: but we just want him as a rental. I would

1463
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,800
Speaker 2: think that most people interested in Jalen Johnson, a former

1464
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,600
Speaker 2: second round draft choice, don't want to give up a

1465
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:50,400
Speaker 2: significant asset unless they do plan to sign him to

1466
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,599
Speaker 2: a contract extension, and then what is that. So, in

1467
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 2: addition to maybe coming up with a trade package, some

1468
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 2: preliminary parameters may have to be discussed between the end

1469
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 2: agent and the team interested in him on a contract

1470
01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 2: extension as well, which is certainly an added fly in

1471
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 2: the ointment. It doesn't make it easier, it makes it

1472
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 2: harder to accomplish. So we'll see what happens between now

1473
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: and four o'clock. But we do want to get back

1474
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 2: to the phones at eight h three oh five fifty

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01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: number to get on board. Got open lines for you

1477
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 2: as we approach the halfway point of the season, which

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: Bill's player has surprised you the most? To the phones

1479
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 2: we go and to Mike in Alden, what do you

1480
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 2: got for us? Mike here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 11: Hey Brillan, Hey Matt, can you guys Jarmy, Yeah, we

1482
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:38,880
Speaker 11: got you all right. So to me, the obvious the

1483
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,600
Speaker 11: obvious one is going to be Terrell Bernard. But a

1484
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,639
Speaker 11: guy I thought about it, and I said, a guy

1485
01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 11: that's really stood out to me is Ajfanessa. This guy's

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01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 11: flying around, he's playing at an elite level. He doesn't

1487
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 11: get every snap, but when he's out there, he's leaving

1488
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 11: it all on the field. I mean he's batt in balls.

1489
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 11: I mean, every time I see fifty seven on the field,

1490
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 11: I'm like, yeah, here we go, Like he's clutch, and uh,

1491
01:17:03,479 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 11: I just think he's a really good player.

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Speaker 1: He shocked me this year.

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01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 11: I didn't see it coming, and uh, I'm really excited

1494
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 11: to see his future. I think they're gonna put a

1495
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:13,840
Speaker 11: good price tag on next year. I hope we don't

1496
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 11: lose him up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good that's a good call there.

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01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: Mike aj is a guy I thought of. I was

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Speaker 2: wondering if somebody was going to call in and say, hey,

1500
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's having a career year. And fortunately for him,

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01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 2: he tined it up right because, as Mike mentioned, this

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01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 2: is the last year of his rookie deal. And to

1503
01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 2: Mike's point, also when you look at playing time, you

1504
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 2: know the next day after the game and the game

1505
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 2: book online. He's a rotational guy. He's not a guy

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Speaker 2: getting the bulk of the snaps. And yet he's still

1507
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:51,240
Speaker 2: productive anyway. And I mean he had a stretch there

1508
01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 2: where he was routinely baton passes down a week after

1509
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,400
Speaker 2: week after week. He's got six pass breakups on this

1510
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: season already, including one interception that he returned for a

1511
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 2: touchdown against Washington. So he's been a menace and finally

1512
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 2: is coming into his own and in the form that

1513
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: I think the Bills had hoped for when they drafted

1514
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 2: him four years ago.

1515
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, five sacks through eight games played. He had six

1516
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 3: and a half sacks last season. Saw a lot of

1517
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 3: those sacks kind of come at the end of the

1518
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,720
Speaker 3: season last year. But good to see him close to

1519
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 3: his career high already and halfway through the season here.

1520
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 4: It's been nice to see what he's been able to do.

1521
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 3: I know this is a guy that people in the

1522
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 3: locker room have wanted to root for and root for

1523
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 3: because he is a great guy. There's several great guys

1524
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 3: on this team, and for him do it in the

1525
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 3: last year of his rookie.

1526
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 4: Deal, I mean, we'll see what the Bills want to do.

1527
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 3: It would be awesome to have him here long term

1528
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 3: and have him here for a few more years at

1529
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 3: least if he's making this type of impact. I love

1530
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 3: his athleticism that he provides at the line of scrimmage,

1531
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 3: being able to bat those passes down. He's really smart

1532
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 3: when it comes to knowing when to put his hands

1533
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 3: up in the passing line, because that's not the easiest

1534
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 3: thing to do to decide, Okay, this is when I

1535
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 3: need to get up and bat the ball down. So

1536
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 3: love the production that we've got from him so far,

1537
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 3: hoping that it continues as well.

1538
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:16,200
Speaker 4: I'm happy for him for sure.

1539
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 2: He leads the team in pass breakups. Just think about that,

1540
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 2: He's got six pass breakups. Nobody else on the team

1541
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:27,160
Speaker 2: has five, So that's pretty darn impressive considering he's a

1542
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 2: defensive lineman, not a defensive back. And he's tied for

1543
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 2: second on the team in sacks with that Oliver with five.

1544
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 2: Leonard Floyd obviously the team leader at six and a half.

1545
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 2: So a very productive season with not a high ratio

1546
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,839
Speaker 2: of snaps. So talk about maximizing your time on the field.

1547
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 2: AJ has certainly done that. Eight ho three zero, five

1548
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 2: point fifty one eight eight eight five point fifty two

1549
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 2: five fifty the number to get on board if you've

1550
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,439
Speaker 2: got a player that we haven't mentioned yet that has

1551
01:19:55,479 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 2: surprised you the most. But I think AJ is a

1552
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: good candidate for sure. I mentioned to Rel Bernard. He

1553
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: said Leonard Floyd as a newcomer to the team, but

1554
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 2: if you have another person. We also had Osirius Torrance

1555
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:09,879
Speaker 2: that was mentioned. Dion Dawkins has had a very strong season,

1556
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: so Judy from Buffalo mentioned him earlier in the show.

1557
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 2: But let's go back to the tweet sheet to see

1558
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:21,360
Speaker 2: other candidates that are listed here, and Kevin says Terrell

1559
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 2: Bernard's performance has exceeded my expectations. Yeah, a lot of

1560
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:31,879
Speaker 2: splash play numbers in the defensive categories for Terrell Bernard

1561
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 2: for sure. Leads the team in fumble recoveries, tied for

1562
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,599
Speaker 2: the team lead and force fumbles. Has some interceptions as well,

1563
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 2: So he's really done a heck of a job. Drew

1564
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 2: on the tweet sheet and it's Drew Hall. Is this

1565
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 2: ken Hal's son? Holy cow, that's cool, he says. Ajpanessa.

1566
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: The guy has come out of nowhere and shown to

1567
01:20:51,240 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 2: be a force on the pass rush this season. Yeah,

1568
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: we covered that for sure, Joseph says. Ajepanessa and Terrell Bernard.

1569
01:20:59,720 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: It's a tie. Bernard became. We didn't know what we

1570
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: had as he played little as a rookie, AJ because

1571
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: going into year four he did very little, but boy

1572
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 2: did he come in this year and open my eyes

1573
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 2: and when you think about it, Maddie, when you get

1574
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 2: two draft choices making an impact like that, it kind

1575
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:23,040
Speaker 2: of tips the scales in your unit's favor. Because Bernard's

1576
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 2: out there full time as we know, but even Apanessa

1577
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: as a rotational player, there's no drop off when the

1578
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:30,400
Speaker 2: starters go out.

1579
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's what this staff wants to do.

1580
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 3: Draft to develop and resign. You draft a guy here

1581
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 3: for reason, and then you hope that it pays off,

1582
01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 3: and you hope that you can get production out of him,

1583
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: and you hope that you're able to develop him to

1584
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 3: the point that you want to re sign him to

1585
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,880
Speaker 3: the roster when it comes time for a second deal.

1586
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: And to see Treel Bernard and Aja Apanessa trending in

1587
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: that way and trending in a way of Hey, maybe

1588
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 3: we should keep you around here. I think we should

1589
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: keep you around here because you've been you've been helping

1590
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: this unit on this defense operate at a high level.

1591
01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 2: And speaking of pass rushers, we have another trade alert, Mattie.

1592
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 2: The San Francisco forty nine ers are trading for Washington

1593
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 2: pass rusher Chase Young. Now it hasn't been is it final?

1594
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: I don't up Yep, it's done. It's for a third

1595
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: round pick. Holy moly, so Washington on some pass rushers overboard,

1596
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 2: like San Francisco needed another pass rusher seriously, I know, seriously,

1597
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 2: like Eric Armstead, Nick Bosa and now Chase Young. What

1598
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:43,920
Speaker 2: in God's name is going on here? Here's the interesting

1599
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 2: thing you hear all the time, like remember when La

1600
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 2: got the rep like we don't care about draft picks. Yeah,

1601
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: and that whole thing. I think San Francisco has superseded

1602
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 2: them because this is like the third year in a row.

1603
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 2: Now they have swung big at the trade deadline Christian

1604
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 2: McCaffrey last year. Now Chase Young. I mean, this is

1605
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 2: and it's not just like oh yeah, we're gonna get

1606
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:11,120
Speaker 2: this role player who's gonna help us, like front line

1607
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 2: players they trade for. It's I mean, geez loose. Three

1608
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 2: in a row. They're like, oh my god, we gotta.

1609
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 4: Do something here. Let's go grab Chase Young.

1610
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 3: And it's for a third round pick according to sources.

1611
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:34,400
Speaker 2: Wow, that is uh, that's impressive. And now Washington's going

1612
01:23:34,479 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: to be loaded in the draft. The key now is

1613
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 2: you got to hit on those picks. So they've got

1614
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: an extra two and an extra three now going into

1615
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 2: next year's draft because from what I can, yeah, there

1616
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 2: hasn't been well I shouldn't say that because they haven't

1617
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:49,679
Speaker 2: put a year on that third round pick yet. I'm

1618
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 2: assuming it's next year. Yeah, and I would think that

1619
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: would be the play, but yeah, we'll have to see. Wow.

1620
01:23:56,760 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: So the two biggest deals are pass rushers from Washington

1621
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:06,080
Speaker 2: going to Chicago and San Francisco respectively for a second

1622
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 2: and a third round pick. So those are the big

1623
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:13,519
Speaker 2: trades of the day, and Washington is involved in both

1624
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: of them. Pretty crazy stuff there, but I guess this

1625
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 2: pretty much confirms that Washington is going to be moving

1626
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:28,639
Speaker 2: their cap dollars to another position group besides the defensive line,

1627
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: where they have paid Deron Payne big time money and

1628
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: where they have paid Jonathan Allen big time money. They're

1629
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 2: two defensive tackles, but they're two ends who are coming

1630
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 2: up on contracts here and they're not too distant future.

1631
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:43,560
Speaker 2: They said, you know what, we're probably not going to

1632
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 2: pay those guys giant top of the market money. Let's

1633
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 2: get some draft assets now and replenish that way. They

1634
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 2: may very well use one of those picks on a

1635
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 2: pass Rusher come the spring. They don't have to pay

1636
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 2: a quarterback though anytime soon if they're sticking with Sam Howell,

1637
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 2: because even if they don't like Sam Howell, they would

1638
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: be drafting one and they would be paying that guy

1639
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 2: a rookie salary. So you know, the money's not going

1640
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:11,879
Speaker 2: to quarterback, whether they keep Sam Howell or draft somebody.

1641
01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 2: So I wonder where they invest the money. They got

1642
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 2: a lot of first round picks at the receiver, first

1643
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: and second round picks at the receiver position to Jehan

1644
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:23,960
Speaker 2: dottson Terry McLaurin, So they've got guys on rookie deals there,

1645
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 2: although they'll have to pay McLaurin soon, and maybe that's

1646
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: the one. But yeah, I really am curious now to

1647
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 2: see where Washington chooses to take the money that many

1648
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 2: people thought would be invested again in the defensive line,

1649
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: and where it goes positionally on that roster.

1650
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you think the quarterback Sam Howell, if that's who

1651
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 3: they're going to stay with, I mean, he's got a

1652
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 3: couple more years. So the first person that I would

1653
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 3: think of is Terry McLaurin. Like you said, maybe maybe

1654
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 3: money is being allocated to their being thought about whenever

1655
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 3: that needs to come about that, Oh, we're going to

1656
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 3: have to push some money over in his corner. But yeah,

1657
01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 3: they've got draft picks and they're freed up of two

1658
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 3: players who would require some big time salaries.

1659
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:13,719
Speaker 2: As talented as that defensive line has been, for some reason,

1660
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 2: they just have not been able to carry Washington. Like

1661
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 2: you think about the defensive line in Philadelphia, I mean

1662
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: that defense wins games for them.

1663
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 4: It's an identity and.

1664
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 2: That's why they're able to run the ball as much

1665
01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,479
Speaker 2: as they can because they have a defense that's not

1666
01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 2: going to let the other team run away from them,

1667
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: so or throw away from them, whatever way you want

1668
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 2: to put it. You can't say that about Washington. Super talented,

1669
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 2: but I don't know what it is. They just don't

1670
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 2: maximize the talent level that existed across that front, and

1671
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 2: Bill's fans saw it firsthand when they waxed them thirty

1672
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 2: seven to three.

1673
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1674
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 3: I remember going into that game, and you know, we're

1675
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,120
Speaker 3: talking about the defensive line and knowing what they can do,

1676
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 3: but also knowing that they at that point in the

1677
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: season hadn't done too much to be that worried about,

1678
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 3: but also respecting These are all a bunch of names

1679
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 3: and a bunch of first round picks, so you got

1680
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 3: to respect what they're capable of doing, but didn't see

1681
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:10,920
Speaker 3: it play out like that.

1682
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Break time for us here. We'll have more trade updates

1683
01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: as they come in. One more segment to go here

1684
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

1685
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 2: Bills Radio, all right, Closing things up here on a Tuesday.

1686
01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, Chris Brown Maddie Lab with you,

1687
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,320
Speaker 2: and we've got a couple of more comments on the

1688
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: tweetsheet here. Sean says, my choice is Spencer Brown. Haven't

1689
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 2: heard his name, and for an offensive lineman, that's a

1690
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: good thing. I would say that. You know, there were

1691
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 2: times early in the season where they gave him some help,

1692
01:28:02,120 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 2: especially against some premiere pass rushers, and it's going to

1693
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,520
Speaker 2: be a challenge this week against this duo that Cincinnati

1694
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 2: rolls out there. But he's been steady, you know, I

1695
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,640
Speaker 2: think he's been steady for most of the season. So

1696
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 2: I actually like that pick from Jem.

1697
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: And I know he's had a couple of tough off

1698
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 3: seasons coming off of injuries and trying to have a

1699
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 3: full healthy offseason under his belt to feel like he

1700
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 3: can progress as an NFL player. You know that's hard

1701
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 3: at the start of your NFL career. And that's one

1702
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 3: thing we heard from Brandon Beid when asked about Spencer Brown,

1703
01:28:33,439 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 3: is hey, give him, give him a healthy off season,

1704
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,720
Speaker 3: Let's see what he can do. And it's been really

1705
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 3: nice to be able to see him in the offensive

1706
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 3: line unit and holding up his own.

1707
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Jess says ed Oliver. For sure, I didn't know what

1708
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,439
Speaker 2: to expect after he signed his big contract, but he

1709
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 2: has really come through. Go big, ed, go bills. It's

1710
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 2: the week two week consistency that has changed. We saw

1711
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 2: flashes of that ability, but never down in down out series.

1712
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: In series, week after week after week, he has been

1713
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: a monster.

1714
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,799
Speaker 3: Yeah. He leads the team with ten tackles for loss

1715
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,439
Speaker 3: so far. He's been a force up there. He's been

1716
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: a threat opposing offenses. I think are scared of what

1717
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 3: he can do. And he is so fun to watch

1718
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 3: when he's playing at a high level. He's so fun

1719
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 3: to interact with. Two. When he's playing at a high level,

1720
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 3: I mean seeing some of those clips of miked up

1721
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 3: clips or.

1722
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 4: Him in games, he's just having so much fun when.

1723
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 3: He gets a sack and he does the rodeo ride

1724
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 3: him cowboy as they say, I love it.

1725
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:32,599
Speaker 2: Zipper says I would throw Khalil Shakir in there. Ten targets,

1726
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:36,799
Speaker 2: ten receptions this season, and then Capazi says James Cook.

1727
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: I'm not used to the Bills having a run game.

1728
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,639
Speaker 2: Cook's been impressive. He's among the league leaders in rushing yards.

1729
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 2: Very quietly, that's it for us today, Maddie, thanks for

1730
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 2: helping us out these last two days. Steven tomorrow, we'll

1731
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 2: see it one