Speaker 1: What's that at the bed. It's spooky. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: it's dead. It's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, I said, Russ Dress.
Speaker 1: Hey boo, it's me ros Dress. False. I am doing
Speaker 1: pretty well. However, I'm not gonna lie. I don't feel
Speaker 1: great because I just got the second vaccine. And yeah,
Speaker 1: people warn me that there's a possibility that you could
Speaker 1: have some side effects, and I certainly did to say
Speaker 1: the least. Though, you know, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: into it too much because I'd hate to discourage anyone
Speaker 1: from getting it. Oh my god, if you are able to,
Speaker 1: and when you're able to, please get you a vaccine
Speaker 1: or two vaccines even. And yeah, I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: going through it a little bit, but very happy I
Speaker 1: was able to do that. And it will all be
Speaker 1: worth it, And before I know it, I'll be ghosts
Speaker 1: hunting and performing on stages and maybe even back in
Speaker 1: the studio with guests talking about ghosts. So also another
Speaker 1: reason to be really excited is because we have got
Speaker 1: Butch Patrick on the show today. Now this is huge
Speaker 1: for me. Okay, but Patrick played Eddie Munster on the
Speaker 1: TV show The Monsters. You better believe he was very
Speaker 1: excited to talk about the monsters, which I so appreciate.
Speaker 1: He's just such a nice man and you know, doesn't
Speaker 1: know me and was kind enough to give me a
Speaker 1: half hour to talk and so we talked and we
Speaker 1: had a great time. And so, yeah, the little little
Speaker 1: bit shorter of a conversation than we usually do. So
Speaker 1: I'll talk a little bit more than I usually do
Speaker 1: at the top of the show and then at the
Speaker 1: end because we talk about a couple of places and
Speaker 1: I did a little bit more research, and so I'll
Speaker 1: talk about that on the other side of my conversation
Speaker 1: with Butch. I also wanted to read a ghost story.
Speaker 1: I found it in the Facebook group, which of course
Speaker 1: is called ghosted by raz dres False. And this story
Speaker 1: right here came from Tabitha Tabitha. Thank you for sharing,
Speaker 1: Tabitha Wrights. My family was quite large and working class.
Speaker 1: Our idea of vacation was going en mass to stay
Speaker 1: with other members of the family. One such holiday saw
Speaker 1: all of us descending on my aunt and uncle and
Speaker 1: their four children, who lived in a huge Victorian house
Speaker 1: in northwestern Missouri. There must have been seventeen of us
Speaker 1: staying there, so rooms and beds were shared. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's a lot of people in a house. I wound
Speaker 1: up sharing with my cousin, who was about six I
Speaker 1: was ten. This aunt's house was dot dot dot weird.
Speaker 1: Several of the rooms were the only rooms on their floor.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting. Some were just off the landing. Some were
Speaker 1: no more than glorified closets. We found ourselves in one
Speaker 1: of the landing rooms, two little twin beds, really close
Speaker 1: and no windows. Okay, this is already creepy. We crashed
Speaker 1: fairly early and nothing strange had happened. Ohkave, I have
Speaker 1: a feeling there's gonna be more to the story. And
Speaker 1: then no idea what time it was, as there were
Speaker 1: no windows and no clocks. All right, my cousin was
Speaker 1: in my bed. I thought poor kid had a nightmare
Speaker 1: or some such. Then he started squeezing my leg, pinching really.
Speaker 1: I rolled over to tell him off, and his eyes
Speaker 1: were huge. I looked where he was looking, and I
Speaker 1: wish I hadn't. There was a weirdly misty yet detailed
Speaker 1: woman floating over the foot of my bed, hair in
Speaker 1: her face, feet if they were real, barely brushing the
Speaker 1: bed covers. Her body was swaying slightly, but her head
Speaker 1: was stationary, as if she were hung by the neck.
Speaker 1: I hugged my cousin to me and shut my eyes
Speaker 1: very tight. When I opened my eyes again, the woman
Speaker 1: was gone. We never spoke about what happened to anyone,
Speaker 1: but the next night we both fell asleep on the sofa.
Speaker 1: My aunt moved a few months after that, and her
Speaker 1: new house was decidedly less creepy. Okay, why do I
Speaker 1: ask for? The thing that's the most crazy about this
Speaker 1: is that I literally ask you kind wonderful people to
Speaker 1: send me this stuff, and then the moment I get it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, what am I doing to myself?
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 1: This is so scary. I mean, Tabitha, that's a great story.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I just have to I have to sleep
Speaker 1: in a bed after hearing this. But I'm very happy
Speaker 1: to hear that shutting your eyes very tightly and then
Speaker 1: opening them worked and she was indeed gone. Okay, Tabitha,
Speaker 1: thank you for sending that. And if you have a
Speaker 1: ghost star you'd like me to read on the show,
Speaker 1: please send it, you know in the Facebook. Ghosted by
Speaker 1: razdrez veles Or on a five star review on Apple podcasts.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good place to Another thing that caught
Speaker 1: my attention was I saw this article that was actually
Speaker 1: originally posted by Fox seventeen, which is the Fox affiliate
Speaker 1: in West Michigan where I'm from, of All Blazes, and
Speaker 1: it's an article that's about UFO sightings in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and why they were up so much. And one thing
Speaker 1: that I was like, Okay, I don't even know that
Speaker 1: I thought about this, but it does. It opens an
Speaker 1: article by talking about, like, you know, maybe it's because
Speaker 1: people had more time during the pandemic so they were
Speaker 1: looking up into the sky. But then it said maybe
Speaker 1: I had to do with the fact that there's less
Speaker 1: pollution in the sky because of last year and so
Speaker 1: there's more visibility. So basically, maybe there's UFOs all the time.
Speaker 1: It's just people can't see it because there's pollution. I mean,
Speaker 1: I live in Los Angeles with there's smog everywhere, so
Speaker 1: there could just be UFOs up there in the smog
Speaker 1: this whole time. I don't like that, it says. According
Speaker 1: to the National UFO Reporting Center, sightings increased by one
Speaker 1: thousand this year nationally, with seven two hundred total calls
Speaker 1: about UFOs. Calls to the hotline in New York State
Speaker 1: alone doubled in twenty twenty. And then they talked to
Speaker 1: a man named Bill and Michigan who works for the
Speaker 1: mutual UFO network Movefon and Bill says that about a
Speaker 1: third of the calls to their branch turned out to
Speaker 1: be SpaceX Star satellites, which launched into near orbit to
Speaker 1: improve Internet connection worldwide. The satellites take on eerie formations
Speaker 1: when visible own there's a video of it too. Says
Speaker 1: they look real spooky when you see them, so that's interesting.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the reasons those have been debunked.
Speaker 1: They're not UFOs. It's just some Elon muskery in the sky, okay.
Speaker 1: And then of course it talks about how the Pentagon investigation,
Speaker 1: which was announced last summer. The Department of Defense also
Speaker 1: recently commented on a series of declassified videos. Yes, of course,
Speaker 1: the Navy pilot videos, and so that kind of raised
Speaker 1: the interest a bit. And it says that the Pentagon
Speaker 1: report is reportedly do out sometime next month, so we'll
Speaker 1: look out for that. Which another thing about UFO is
Speaker 1: actually that I heard about, is that Demi Levado is
Speaker 1: apparently going to be doing a show where she's going
Speaker 1: to be looking for UFOs, which we've already talked about
Speaker 1: on the show. Demie Levado is She's a paranormal queen
Speaker 1: and truly a dream guest. I would love to talk
Speaker 1: to one day about all of her experiences, and so
Speaker 1: look out for that, all you UFO heads, and Demi stands. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's get into this conversation that I had with
Speaker 1: Butch Patrick from The Monsters, and again at the end
Speaker 1: of the episode, I'll talk about some more historical stuff,
Speaker 1: and as always on Patreon you can find bonus clips
Speaker 1: and from this week, we do that thing where I
Speaker 1: ask about unexplained phenomena. And one of the things I
Speaker 1: asked Butch about is this internet rumor that I may
Speaker 1: have talked about on this podcast, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: when I was doing Stereo. I can't remember, but I've
Speaker 1: definitely talked about it because it's something that's been on
Speaker 1: my mind, which is that there's rumors of a Monster's
Speaker 1: movie coming out that's directed by Rob Zombie and I
Speaker 1: guess maybe Cassandra Peterson might be involved. I mean, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a rumor, doesn't seem like it's been confirmed
Speaker 1: from what I read, but then I asked Butch about it,
Speaker 1: and so Butch clears that up. So that's part of
Speaker 1: a little bit of a clip that you can find
Speaker 1: on Patreon Patreon dot com slash rosdres Fales. And then
Speaker 1: also this week I did a video where I went
Speaker 1: to Pasadena and looked at some allegedly famous haunted locations
Speaker 1: and even a very iconic horror location from the movie Halloween.
Speaker 1: So go check that out Patreon dot com, slash ros dresvalel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and just a reminder if you didn't hear, Like a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, I got to meet Butch Patrick.
Speaker 1: That's how this all started. I went to this place
Speaker 1: called the Valley Relics Museum. I made a video. I
Speaker 1: put it on paground as well, and I got to
Speaker 1: meet but Patrick. He was signing autographs. He had his
Speaker 1: amazing monster coach with him, which he drives to these
Speaker 1: events and it's so cool, and he was a very
Speaker 1: nice person, and he was nice enough to do this.
Speaker 1: So you'll hear so here it is okay, okay, I'll
Speaker 1: stop talking. Here is my conversation with Butch Patrick and
Speaker 1: with the show. I am so honored today I am
Speaker 1: joined by a true Hollywood legend, Butch Patrick. Hello, how
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 3: I am wonderful. Thanks for having me on your show.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you so much for doing it,
Speaker 1: and thanks for fitting me in. I mean, you're on
Speaker 1: the road. What have you got going on right now?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm out scouting theaters to host my Munsters and
Speaker 4: Merlin Magic Show. We have a feature Munster Go Home,
Speaker 4: of course from the old days that's been blu ray mixed,
Speaker 4: where Rob Zombie and myself did the commentary for it
Speaker 4: last year, but unfortunately it never came out because of COVID.
Speaker 4: So now I decided to help theater owners around the
Speaker 4: country and bring people back out by having a Munsters
Speaker 4: in Magic evening.
Speaker 3: And I was out looking at a.
Speaker 4: Theater here on Root sixty six, a beautiful old worlds
Speaker 4: or Organ theater, one of the twenty two in the country.
Speaker 4: Beautiful property. And I'm also doing a car show here
Speaker 4: in Tulsa, Darryl Starboard and the old legendary car builder,
Speaker 4: old friend of mine because I grew up with George
Speaker 4: Barrows who did the Monster Coach in the Dragula So Country,
Speaker 4: I always have a good time seeing interesting pieces of
Speaker 4: Americana and going out and meeting some fans like yourself.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was so excited to meet you. I've been
Speaker 1: a Monster fan my whole life. I was raised on
Speaker 1: the monsters, and you know, it's like it's crazy because
Speaker 1: there they still are like hip. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: I go to so many horror conventions and so many
Speaker 1: spooky stores and there's still so much monster merge and
Speaker 1: the fandom is still very much alive. Why do you think,
Speaker 1: why do you think they've stood the test of time.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a couple of reasons, and it's an interesting things.
Speaker 4: It was almost like a perfect storm situation that had
Speaker 4: to occur because because it's very, very unusual for a
Speaker 4: show of only two years fifty five years ago to
Speaker 4: be as popular as it is today when you consider
Speaker 4: how many thousands and thousands and thousands of shows have
Speaker 4: been made and fall by the wayside. But to answer
Speaker 4: your question, two things. Number One, it was the sixties
Speaker 4: and the period. People remember the sixties very fondly, and
Speaker 4: they all have. If you weren't born in the sixties,
Speaker 4: you remember them because people have been listening to the
Speaker 4: music and watching the reruns of this and that. But
Speaker 4: if you are old enough like myself to be having
Speaker 4: lived through the sixties, it brings back childhood memories that
Speaker 4: can never be replaced, and unfortunately kids today will never
Speaker 4: know what it was like. So you have a lot
Speaker 4: of the family values of olden days back in the
Speaker 4: sixties that resonates today, and you have multi generational like
Speaker 4: for instance. For instance, my book that called Munster Memories
Speaker 4: is based upon people coming to the table and sharing
Speaker 4: their fond memories that they had with someone their family
Speaker 4: that they shared watching the show with. And it could
Speaker 4: be their grandparents or their uncle or whatever, but they
Speaker 4: always have a fond memory of the Munsters being part
Speaker 4: of their family.
Speaker 1: I also think that there's there's this thing, and I've
Speaker 1: talked about this with Alvira about people that feel like
Speaker 1: an outsider really really connecting to those characters, and I
Speaker 1: think that that's a huge part of it as well.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that from meeting fans?
Speaker 3: Yes? Well.
Speaker 4: Another thing is also when you look at the hit
Speaker 4: shows from the mid sixties, it was a very interesting
Speaker 4: time for TV riders and comedians and stuff because anything
Speaker 4: could go. Very popular shows Bewitched about which is I
Speaker 4: Dream a genie about genies, my favorite Martian. There was
Speaker 4: just shows that were very, very popular that had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with reality, that were just fun entertainment for entertainment's.
Speaker 1: Sake, right, right, And you know, when you think about
Speaker 1: like the culture climate of that time, there's that clip
Speaker 1: that still goes around, the one where Herman's talking to
Speaker 1: you and he talks about I think it's from the
Speaker 1: one where you grow a beard, and he says, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's more about the size of your heart and the
Speaker 1: strength of your character. And I mean that clip still
Speaker 1: goes around, you know, and it's it's a very relevant conversation.
Speaker 1: That's just his nature.
Speaker 5: The lesson I want you to learn is it doesn't
Speaker 5: matter what you look like. You can be tall or short,
Speaker 5: or fat or thin, ugly or handsome like your father.
Speaker 5: You can be black or yellow or white. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: What does matter is the size of your heart and
Speaker 5: the strength of your character.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I had someone reach out to me about that clip
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it is timeless, but it was
Speaker 4: funny because it had like ninety million views recently because
Speaker 4: of all the you know, stuff going on in the
Speaker 4: real world around us.
Speaker 3: And someone had just pulled it out and the like.
Speaker 4: To them it was new, and they found out that
Speaker 4: it wasn't new at all, had been around for so long.
Speaker 3: And yes, it resonates very well today. And that's why,
Speaker 3: and that's one of the reasons why the show does
Speaker 3: so well too.
Speaker 4: It's got basic family values, and it's always entertaining, and
Speaker 4: it's it's old traditional stuff. But because it's the monsters
Speaker 4: and Grandpa's magic and his the things that they could
Speaker 4: write into the scripts because of you know, him being
Speaker 4: a mad scientist and.
Speaker 3: Herman and stuff made it funny. What would have normally
Speaker 3: been an everyday occurrence becomes suddenly becomes very entertaining.
Speaker 1: And spooky, which I love so much. Well, wait, I
Speaker 1: have one more question about the monthsteries, because when you
Speaker 1: talk about Munster Go Home, which I definitely have seen.
Speaker 1: I love that movie, and it's it's in technical and
Speaker 1: the TV shows in black and white. I guess what
Speaker 1: I'm wondering is the way it looked in the movie
Speaker 1: and color, is that how it looked in person or
Speaker 1: was it changed for color?
Speaker 3: They they up the anti a tad for the movie.
Speaker 4: They did make the colors a little more brighter on
Speaker 4: everybody's faces. You know, it was like if you were
Speaker 4: a five, they made it you a seven. And you know,
Speaker 4: in intensity of color, my suit used to be gray
Speaker 4: in the TV show, they made it prepple. For the movie,
Speaker 4: we went with a redhead Maryland as opposed to the
Speaker 4: traditional blonde because they wanted to bring Debbie Watson into
Speaker 4: the mix because she had a new TV show at
Speaker 4: Universal they were promoting.
Speaker 3: So yeah, across the board, it was a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Intense color for the for the release, but the series,
Speaker 4: the show itself was a very gray set. I mean
Speaker 4: we had the couch was a very you know, sort
Speaker 4: of a olive draft gray. The walls were dark and gray,
Speaker 4: and the cobwebs and everything. So yes, they definitely kicked
Speaker 4: it up a gear for color.
Speaker 1: Well, can we talk about ghosts?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 1: So when I got when I got to meet you,
Speaker 1: I think it came up because I had a ghost
Speaker 1: on and who was who was that with you? Was
Speaker 1: that your your sister? Oh okay, yeah, yeah, she had
Speaker 1: brought up my ghost. And then we started talking about
Speaker 1: ghosts and then uh and uh, and then you happened
Speaker 1: to have all these videos of ghosts. I want to
Speaker 1: know what the story is with that.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the story. My grandmother, my sister Michelle,
Speaker 3: and myself.
Speaker 4: We were very close to our grandmother, and my grandmother
Speaker 4: bought a house and making Missouri, a little town in
Speaker 4: north central Missouri.
Speaker 3: For all her antiques, and I was doing the monsters.
Speaker 4: I was living with her in Illinois. When I went
Speaker 4: to California to do the monsters. She had moved from
Speaker 4: her little place in Illinois to a big place in Missouri,
Speaker 4: so Michelle was with her.
Speaker 3: So I always kept an eye on the house over
Speaker 3: the years.
Speaker 4: And I found out it was going to be demolished
Speaker 4: and it had been vacant for eight years. A friend
Speaker 4: of mine from making because I lived there in the
Speaker 4: eighth grade in that house. So I had always kept
Speaker 4: an eye on it. And when I found out I
Speaker 4: was going to be demolished, I took it upon myself
Speaker 4: to buy it, to save it from the wrecking ball
Speaker 4: and Grandma's memory. Well, as I was leaving to take
Speaker 4: ownership of the house, my sister says, say hi to
Speaker 4: the Miss Ruby. I go, who the hell's Miss Ruby?
Speaker 4: And he goes, she goes, that's the ghost. That's that's
Speaker 4: the resident ghost. You didn't know the house was haunted?
Speaker 4: And I go no, She goes, how could you know
Speaker 4: the ghosts? The ghosts were everywhere. I was always talking
Speaker 4: to the ghost did grandma? Didn't you notice how Grandma
Speaker 4: wouldn't let us go in the basement?
Speaker 3: I go no.
Speaker 4: I was always out with Grandpa, you know, fishing or
Speaker 4: riding my bike with my friends.
Speaker 3: I didn't hang around the house that much.
Speaker 4: So anyway, as I was leaving, she told me about
Speaker 4: the ghost situation. So as I arrived in Missouri, the
Speaker 4: people that were helping me, you know, clean the house
Speaker 4: and move stuff out of the house, they all had
Speaker 4: ghost stories. It was common knowledge in town that everybody
Speaker 4: knew the house. They'd seen the ghosts of the windows,
Speaker 4: they heard them, laughter, foot steps. It was all common
Speaker 4: knowledge that the house was very haunted, unbeknownst to me.
Speaker 3: So I had a paranormal team in Saint Louis. A
Speaker 3: friend of.
Speaker 4: Mine's named Vicky Maine and Michael Lynch, who have a
Speaker 4: company called Paravision out of Saint Louis, that I had
Speaker 4: met at a paranormal convention.
Speaker 3: I asked them, could.
Speaker 4: You please come over to make it and let me
Speaker 4: know what's going on with my house.
Speaker 3: They agreed.
Speaker 4: Of course, I was thinking about doing the TV show
Speaker 4: because I thought if I could prove the house was haunted,
Speaker 4: a friend of mine in Hollywood said, you've got a
Speaker 4: gold show because it was the elevator pitch was Eddie
Speaker 4: Munster meets Andy of Maybury in the Twilight Zone, which
Speaker 4: is the town being Mayberry, me being Eddie Munster, and the.
Speaker 3: House with the ghost being the Twilight Zone.
Speaker 4: So they came and did a sweep in the house
Speaker 4: and we found like twenty or thirty different entities living
Speaker 4: in the house and we had to clear them all
Speaker 4: out because it had it had been blocked up for
Speaker 4: eight years and it hadn't been lived in for eight years,
Speaker 4: and a lot of the residency there because it was
Speaker 4: built on a board texts. So after we opened the
Speaker 4: doors and they all went running up into the basement,
Speaker 4: I mean they were in the basement. They all went
Speaker 4: running up into the attict. I think I showed you
Speaker 4: that video of all the orbs, didn't I?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, Okay.
Speaker 3: So anyway, she.
Speaker 4: Says, was this house built on a cemetery? I said, no,
Speaker 4: I doubt that there's a cemetery room close by. But
Speaker 4: one thing, I lied to another and we figured out
Speaker 4: that it was in a vortex, and there was always
Speaker 4: going to be a lot of people coming through and
Speaker 4: a lot of a lot of spirits, and there'll be
Speaker 4: a lot of activity. So on that note, it didn't
Speaker 4: bother me, but it bothered the heck out of my
Speaker 4: ex wife.
Speaker 3: She didn't like living there, and we spent a lot
Speaker 3: of time staying at hotels.
Speaker 4: Even though I own this home, I would be in
Speaker 4: a hotel at night because she wouldn't stay in the house.
Speaker 4: So I said, well, there's this is not going to
Speaker 4: work out. Something's got to have to happen here. So
Speaker 4: I'd only spent fifty one days a year in the
Speaker 4: house when I was already on the road.
Speaker 3: I spent the money on the room.
Speaker 4: I re roofed it, did the electric work, did the
Speaker 4: HVAC and all the things that needed to be done
Speaker 4: to make it livable and sellable. And then my wife
Speaker 4: and I separated, went our separate ways. So I decided
Speaker 4: to sell the house to someone that was going to
Speaker 4: continue the restoration and finish it off. But that was
Speaker 4: the history of the house and how it came to
Speaker 4: be and Elizabeth Wardell was the resident ghost and her
Speaker 4: dad was murdered. He was a coal baron, built this
Speaker 4: beautiful home, spared no expense. It was like the best
Speaker 4: nicest house in town. He then built sister houses for
Speaker 4: his other kids when they got married. So there was
Speaker 4: a big history of the Wardale mansion, the Wardale money.
Speaker 4: And he was killed during a labor dispute, and she
Speaker 4: took over the house and she married a.
Speaker 3: Guy named Ruby. And that's how my little sister knew her.
Speaker 4: As a kid, she knew her as miss Ruby, not
Speaker 4: miss not Elizabeth or not miss Wardell.
Speaker 3: That's how that's the story in a nutshell.
Speaker 1: So you're did she come to your sister and say, like,
Speaker 1: tell her my name is miss Ruby.
Speaker 4: Yes, she's That's how Michelle knew her as miss Ruby,
Speaker 4: call me miss Ruby.
Speaker 3: And Michelle had many many conversations with her.
Speaker 4: Now again, I remember my sister was only about eight
Speaker 4: to nine years old at this time. But the woman
Speaker 4: always was seen at the stairway where she would like
Speaker 4: host parties.
Speaker 3: She was always in.
Speaker 4: A like a white frock with her long hair braided
Speaker 4: like she was getting ready for bed.
Speaker 3: She was always very calming.
Speaker 4: She was. Michelle never felt threatened by her, but when
Speaker 4: I was. When I got married with Michelle, came back
Speaker 4: for my wedding. She stayed in the adjacent room that
Speaker 4: I guess Grandma used to stay in, and I turned
Speaker 4: off my phone at night.
Speaker 3: But the next morning, Michelle goes, why didn't you answer
Speaker 3: your phone? I go what? I turned my phone off?
Speaker 4: She was I couldn't get out of bitch, and she
Speaker 4: had texted me that please get in here. There's a horrible,
Speaker 4: horrible entity in this room and I'm scared to death.
Speaker 3: And Michelle was never scared of the ghosts.
Speaker 4: But apparently we picked up a very bad hitchhiking, you know,
Speaker 4: a hitchhiker that was hanging around. Causing problem was that
Speaker 4: I had to have removed by my medium, Vicky Maine.
Speaker 1: So you, why do you think the ghosts don't visit you?
Speaker 3: I don't know. Good question.
Speaker 4: I was living in this house by myself a lot,
Speaker 4: and I would walk around at night and I say, hey,
Speaker 4: guys out here, anytime you know, whatever you want to do,
Speaker 4: let me let it be known. And nothing zilch.
Speaker 1: You would think they would be comfortable around you. Maybe
Speaker 1: they just think that they couldn't scare you because.
Speaker 4: I'm here to save the house.
Speaker 3: You're welcome to stay. I know you're there. Maybe you
Speaker 3: remember me as a kid back when I was visiting
Speaker 3: my grandma. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would walk around the house by myself, talking to
Speaker 4: myself and to the ghost, and nothing ever happened.
Speaker 1: What was so that video that you showed me where
Speaker 1: you can see somebody walking, I mean, that was I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of ghost videos. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: What was that?
Speaker 3: That was my security camera that we founded.
Speaker 4: We have the two cameras and one in the kitchen
Speaker 4: and then one in the shooting at the front door
Speaker 4: from the base of the stairway the main stairway. We
Speaker 4: have a butler stairway as well, and that was basically
Speaker 4: at three in the morning, UH pitch black infrared camera
Speaker 4: activated from movement from a ghost that stepped across them.
Speaker 4: You can see the first entity goes in front of
Speaker 4: the lens and walks away from it, and then as
Speaker 4: it becomes uh, as it moves a few feet from
Speaker 4: the lens, you see it shooting at the front door,
Speaker 4: and that's where you see the little I think it
Speaker 4: was a kid goes to a very small ghost goes
Speaker 4: shuffling by off to the side.
Speaker 3: Now now now those are just that one's worn.
Speaker 4: But I also have another one of a a blue
Speaker 4: blinking entity that's that peeks out from the side of
Speaker 4: the wall, and his face looks a lot like the
Speaker 4: uh the actor that was in the Plan nine from
Speaker 4: Outer Space, Oh, the vault George Johnson to Tours. Yeah,
Speaker 4: who looks a lot like Tours. And I got a
Speaker 4: picture of him and it looks a lot like him.
Speaker 3: Man, it was.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Wait, so you said that you sold the house.
Speaker 3: Yes, I sold the house a few years ago.
Speaker 1: Did you tell the people that it was haunted when
Speaker 1: you sold it?
Speaker 3: No, but I wanted to sell it, and yeah, I know.
Speaker 1: I don't blame you.
Speaker 4: I told them, I said, look at the to the realtor,
Speaker 4: I said, if they asked, tell them the truth. But
Speaker 4: if they don't ask, I'm not telling it. It's like
Speaker 4: a hotel, you know. I just said, look at if
Speaker 4: they did their research. Anybody that did any research on
Speaker 4: this house, it's got a history of ghost activity.
Speaker 3: So uh.
Speaker 4: I never really spoke to the buyer personally, I but
Speaker 4: directly through the realtor. The realtor found him. I don't
Speaker 4: know if the realtor told him or not. And it
Speaker 4: wasn't a deal breaker if they had me. If they
Speaker 4: were going to tell them, fine, I don't even know.
Speaker 4: If they may have known that, they may not have known. Honestly,
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I understand because you for some people,
Speaker 1: that's that's a selling point. For some people, that's a
Speaker 1: big deal. A lot of people don't care, Like I'm
Speaker 1: so used to talking to people about ghosts that I
Speaker 1: think about this constantly. But a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: believe in that. They don't really like they would probably
Speaker 1: figure out a way to deny it anyway. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people, So you know, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. I don't think.
Speaker 4: No, it was that I would have I didn't have
Speaker 4: a problem with it. Literally, I asked my realtor. She says,
Speaker 4: if they asked, they asked, they don't, they don't.
Speaker 1: I go, okay, yeah, I'm yeah, So.
Speaker 3: Do you think is the big thing is? I had
Speaker 3: to be honest about it.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't a matter of somebody got murdered in
Speaker 4: the house or there was like horrible, you know, entities
Speaker 4: running around. So I just said myself. I told them
Speaker 4: the realtor, I go, what do you want to do
Speaker 4: with it? And she says, it's for sale. They asked,
Speaker 4: I'll tell them whatever they want to ask, I will
Speaker 4: answer the question. And if they don't ask questions, I'm
Speaker 4: not going to, you know, share stuff that they don't
Speaker 4: they don't ask, And that was comfortable.
Speaker 1: And if it's a big concern for somebody, if you're
Speaker 1: going to buy an old house, you would probably ask,
Speaker 1: you know, I absolutely would. So you've never personally seen
Speaker 1: a ghost or experience a ghost.
Speaker 4: But it's funny. I've been around so many. I used
Speaker 4: to have a show called a cop Theater. Well it's
Speaker 4: still on the air, but I used to do the
Speaker 4: ghost thing. And what I would do with form a
Speaker 4: cop theater. I would go out with this woman named
Speaker 4: Bonnie Vint who was out of San Diego with paranormal
Speaker 4: and we would go to Villamonta Zuma, we'd go to
Speaker 4: the Waley House, we'd go to the Queen Mary and
Speaker 4: the Roosevelt Hotel, all these high profile haunted addresses and locations.
Speaker 4: And she kind of explained to me that you know,
Speaker 4: this is how it works, and I'm kind of like
Speaker 4: a radio transmitter from the other side, and people contact
Speaker 4: me and then I try to put them in touch
Speaker 4: with stuff.
Speaker 3: So apparently a lot of people were reaching out to me.
Speaker 3: But I guess I'm not a I guess I'm not
Speaker 3: wired to receive their signals for some reason.
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people would say you can make
Speaker 1: the decision to be open to it, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's true or not. But would you say
Speaker 1: that you are.
Speaker 4: I tried, Yeah, I mean I do believe in them, yes,
Speaker 4: I also, you know, there's just been so so much activity,
Speaker 4: and there's so many Like they say, like if you ever,
Speaker 4: like out of the corner of your eye, if you
Speaker 4: ever look over, there's nothing there, and then you could
Speaker 4: swarm them with something there that's usually a ghost, you know,
Speaker 4: that's usually someone thing that was there that they're just
Speaker 4: a little faster than you are as far as picking
Speaker 4: up on them. But and then I've seen all kinds
Speaker 4: of them. When I take pictures and I'm doing my videos,
Speaker 4: I see the orbs on my screen, but I haven't
Speaker 4: seen one without a device helping.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's the spooky thing is like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: could be there the whole time, it's just when you
Speaker 1: take a picture you see them exactly. That's so interesting
Speaker 1: that you went to all those places and nothing happened.
Speaker 1: But the funny thing about that is, like all those
Speaker 1: places that you named, I've also been to and also
Speaker 1: have not had anything paranormal happen.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the story that you've been to. The
Speaker 3: Villa Montazuma.
Speaker 1: I've never been inside, but I love that place. And
Speaker 1: not enough people know about that place, but I've talked
Speaker 1: about it a bit on this podcast Villamana Zuma.
Speaker 3: The story behind Jesse Shepherd. This is amazing.
Speaker 1: It's amazing Bondi Vant.
Speaker 3: Who we went down to do the Villa monta Zuma thing.
Speaker 4: Now, this is when I'm just getting ready to stop
Speaker 4: drinking and partying. You know, I'm getting I've dropped the
Speaker 4: rock and I'm deciding that I'm going to go the
Speaker 4: rest of my life without the party mode.
Speaker 3: So what do I do?
Speaker 4: I get a letter that was supposedly written by Jesse
Speaker 4: Shepherd to me to be delivered to me and my job.
Speaker 4: He is requesting me, and it was handed to me
Speaker 4: by body Vent through her connections on the other side,
Speaker 4: and he was asking me to please bring down celebrities
Speaker 4: and friends and make Villa monta Zuma the house that
Speaker 4: it was designed to be. It was built into designed
Speaker 4: to be like a lightning rod for entities and paranormal activity.
Speaker 4: It was designed that way, and the house never achieved.
Speaker 4: I mean, he was over in Europe entertaining czars and
Speaker 4: kings and stuff, but the house that he built in
Speaker 4: San Diego never became the go to place that he
Speaker 4: wanted it to be for paranormal activity. And he wanted
Speaker 4: me to help put it on the map by throwing
Speaker 4: parties down there with celebrities.
Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Well?
Speaker 1: And I and from what I know about that place,
Speaker 1: I think it was also a place of entertainment. And
Speaker 1: he would he was like a world renowned pianist, right
Speaker 1: or yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah vocally he died playing the piano.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he would have these like incredible parties
Speaker 1: and apparently people say that they can still hear him
Speaker 1: play the piano.
Speaker 3: I wanted it to continue, and he died.
Speaker 4: The story behind his death is he was having a
Speaker 4: party and he was playing and he we hit the
Speaker 4: last vote and he took a bow and everybody thought
Speaker 4: he was taking a bow and they were plotting.
Speaker 3: They're potting their plot and he never came out of
Speaker 3: his bow.
Speaker 5: He is dead.
Speaker 1: So he sends you a letter. So what did you do?
Speaker 4: I basically told Bonnie. I said, I'm not comfortable doing this.
Speaker 4: This is I'm getting ready to stop partying. I go,
Speaker 4: isn't it ironic that basically a guy from the other side.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to quit partying and I have a guy
Speaker 4: from the side encouraging me to continue.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's hilarious.
Speaker 4: And not just anybody Jesse Shephard at Billa Montezuma. I mean,
Speaker 4: that's world fast stuff.
Speaker 1: That's really cool. And the pictures I've seen of him,
Speaker 1: he looks like a cool guy.
Speaker 3: Very interesting place, very interesting.
Speaker 1: But what about the Queen Mary. The Queen Mary Queen
Speaker 1: Mary Ann Whaley House living in southern California. I bent
Speaker 1: to both of them a few times, and those are
Speaker 1: both places that people are like, the most haunted place
Speaker 1: in the world, NonStop activity, and I've never had anything happen.
Speaker 1: Same with the thing.
Speaker 4: The only thing I had happened in the Queen Mary
Speaker 4: was I felt that somebody had pushed me and shoved.
Speaker 3: Me a little bit.
Speaker 4: You know. It was like, you know, the boats moored,
Speaker 4: so it's not moving, and so it was a feeling
Speaker 4: as if somebody had motioned you and pushed you side
Speaker 4: to side a little bit, like like that. The ship
Speaker 4: was at sea was about as much of it. But
Speaker 4: I'll tell you there's another place called the Paramount Theater
Speaker 4: that is famous for being the place next to Asbury Park,
Speaker 4: the Convention Center on the boardwalk. It had a looked
Speaker 4: this one up too, because it had a bad fire
Speaker 4: and a bunch of people burned up in the theater,
Speaker 4: in the dressing.
Speaker 3: Room and the makeup area.
Speaker 4: And I had the keys to this place because I
Speaker 4: did a haunted attraction there for a month, and I
Speaker 4: used to go in the place in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night to just get away from people. And it
Speaker 4: was just so spooky and cool. But you could smell,
Speaker 4: oh my god, the smells of the death, of the
Speaker 4: of the burning. You wouldn't smell it when you know,
Speaker 4: when you're when the place was open and there's other
Speaker 4: people around, but if you're by yourself. For some reason,
Speaker 4: that place was extremely uh had a it had a
Speaker 4: memory for me of the smells of this burnt flesh
Speaker 4: from a fire.
Speaker 1: Oh god, where was that.
Speaker 3: Paramount Theater in Asbury Park?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I feel like I saw that on like
Speaker 1: a paranormal show or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very famous for Springstein doing his concerts at
Speaker 4: the Convention Hall and it's on the boardwalk and Asbury Park.
Speaker 4: I lit the place up. We call it as Scary
Speaker 4: Park for halloweens.
Speaker 1: What about at Universal Studios? Never had anything happen there?
Speaker 3: No, no, And I used to.
Speaker 4: It's funny too, because I used to when I had
Speaker 4: three were time to go mosey around by myself.
Speaker 3: I would go to the Phantom of the Opera stage.
Speaker 1: That's where they used to say was so hot, I.
Speaker 4: Know, And I would climb and I would climb the
Speaker 4: ladders on the side and go all the way up
Speaker 4: to the fifth story catwalks and wander all around and
Speaker 4: go into the boxes, the opera theater boxes. That was
Speaker 4: my go to place because it was such a cool, spooky,
Speaker 4: giant soundstage.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so cool. What in those
Speaker 1: days did people talk about that being haunted?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know the story with that is that
Speaker 1: it's it was, you know, from the Phantom of the Opera,
Speaker 1: and it was still standing up until a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago they took down the set, which I think
Speaker 1: the sound stage was built around that set, and so
Speaker 1: it just remained there for years, this old theater. And
Speaker 1: they say that lawn Cheney haunted it, and they say
Speaker 1: that I believe an electrician fell from those rafters and
Speaker 1: haunted as well. Spooky, it wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 4: It was a very It was a very It was
Speaker 4: very interesting as a kid to be able to go
Speaker 4: you know, I always enjoyed going in the big giant
Speaker 4: rooms and just being the only person in there anyway.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of an interesting way of going about it.
Speaker 4: But with that particular soundstage, being able to go in
Speaker 4: there by myself and just wander around and climb and
Speaker 4: do this and do that, you know, on the untethered,
Speaker 4: so to speak, it was really neat. I was very
Speaker 4: lucky to be able to go around studio interesting studio
Speaker 4: stuff alone.
Speaker 3: And it is funny.
Speaker 4: It's like when I used to walk around my house,
Speaker 4: which was built in eighteen seventy five in Missouri, in
Speaker 4: the middle of the night, trying to get the ghost
Speaker 4: to come out. I wondered about how many thousands and
Speaker 4: thousands of parties these people had and all this stuff
Speaker 4: that went on in this house over the last you know,
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 3: So it was pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, especially a place like Universal Studios, which has been
Speaker 1: there since nineteen fifteen, It's like, can you just even
Speaker 1: imagine all of the people that I've walked on that soil?
Speaker 1: And do you know about that the famous ghost story
Speaker 1: from the day that Universal Studios opened. No, there was
Speaker 1: a plane crash. They were doing a big grand opening
Speaker 1: and they had this stunt aerial list or whatever you know,
Speaker 1: he would did I think he did, I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: a wingwalker. He did something I don't know what. It was,
Speaker 1: some kind of stunt with an involving an airplane, and
Speaker 1: it went horribly wrong, and this man fell in front
Speaker 1: of a lot of people, and they say that he
Speaker 1: people see a man dressed in you know that the
Speaker 1: pilot you know, nineteen fifties kind of uniform, just walking
Speaker 1: around the back law. That's what they say. Over by
Speaker 1: kind of by like where the Bates Motel set is,
Speaker 1: is what I've heard.
Speaker 3: Wow, spooky, it is spooky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of you know, I mean, there's
Speaker 4: just now that I actually know that I had a
Speaker 4: lot of paranormal teams could spend the night in my
Speaker 4: house because they wanted to check out the activity. And
Speaker 4: I'd go, I'd say, okay, good, I guy, locked the
Speaker 4: door when you leave, because they would plan on leaving it,
Speaker 4: you know, two or three in the morning, and I'd
Speaker 4: go upstairs, and I'd come down the next day and
Speaker 4: they're still there because they're getting so much activity that
Speaker 4: they couldn't leave. They go, this is just there's so
Speaker 4: much active, active stuff going on in this house that
Speaker 4: we just kept the the tape rolling and the and
Speaker 4: the and the sensors going and okay, no problem.
Speaker 1: Did they ever capture EVPs or like ghost voices? Yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 1: I do a little thing on here. Would you be
Speaker 1: cool to do a little segment where I play ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I've heard the I've heard the voice side
Speaker 4: of the Whaley House.
Speaker 3: Bonnie said.
Speaker 4: I think she's like one of the only people actually
Speaker 4: record an actual voice out of there.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she was just bragging, but h.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's tough for EVP or ev plicse. I go
Speaker 1: to YouTube and I I find EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomena,
Speaker 1: and then I have my guests guess what the voice
Speaker 1: is saying, or what the paranormal investigator thinks that the
Speaker 1: voice is saying. It's kind of hard to do over zoom,
Speaker 1: but we'll try our best. Okay. These are both from Missouri.
Speaker 1: There's two of them here. This first one is from
Speaker 1: the Missouri State Penitentiary. Tell me if you hear anything
Speaker 1: or what you hear. It's there's a lot of background noise,
Speaker 1: but there's a whisper. No, I'll play it again, and
Speaker 1: he guesses.
Speaker 3: No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options. It's one of these. Is
Speaker 1: it a dumb cat? B stop that? See it's all good?
Speaker 3: Or deep?
Speaker 1: Just nothing here? I'll play it again. Nothing They believe
Speaker 1: it says stop that, which I can kind of okay.
Speaker 1: Knowing that let's hear it again, I can kind of.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: Here's one more. This one's from Right Paranormal Group on
Speaker 1: YouTube and it's at the Quitman Cemetery in Notaway County, Missouri.
Speaker 1: And tell me what you hear here. It's kind of
Speaker 1: a whisper.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there it again? What are my options?
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it a yep, yep? B shut up? C
Speaker 1: mom you're up? Or D I'm so so cute? Okay,
Speaker 1: am I playing.
Speaker 3: Momb You're up?
Speaker 1: That's what they think. Yeah, they said they think it
Speaker 1: says mom, you're up your old plate again. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that's I guess well, I guess that's about it.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. Can you, you know,
Speaker 1: tell people where to find you and if you have
Speaker 1: any appearances coming up or anything.
Speaker 4: This is pretty everybody, get a pen and a paper
Speaker 4: and you're need to write this down. You can find
Speaker 4: me at monsters dot com.
Speaker 3: That was easy enough, that's the joke.
Speaker 1: And are you doing you know, appearances and meet and
Speaker 1: greets and.
Speaker 3: Stuff monsters dot com?
Speaker 1: Amazing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I know the answer your question. Yes I am.
Speaker 4: I'm going to be doing the movies and the magic
Speaker 4: and the meet and greets and it's all. If you
Speaker 4: go to Munster dot com you'll see my schedule and
Speaker 4: and all my appearances.
Speaker 1: I love it. Well. I so appreciate you doing this.
Speaker 1: This is so kind of you, and I hope you
Speaker 1: have a great trip and keep in touch.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. You take care.
Speaker 1: Okay, So I did, indeed go to Monsters dot com
Speaker 1: and you should as well. There's a lot of great
Speaker 1: stuff on there if you're a Monsters fan. And some
Speaker 1: of these upcoming events happening. An event called Horrorville, which
Speaker 1: is a horror pop up shop, which is happening in Southgate, California,
Speaker 1: on the fifteenth. Butch will be there, Oh and the sixteenth,
Speaker 1: that's exciting, but you will also be On the twenty first,
Speaker 1: he is at the Music City Toys and Collectibles events,
Speaker 1: which is in water Town, Tennessee. Oh my gosh, he's everywhere.
Speaker 1: On the twenty second, there's something called Bo's Extravaganza, which
Speaker 1: is in some place. Oh my gosh, there's so many things.
Speaker 1: He is all over the place. Days of the Dead Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: This looks like fun. That's in July. Yeah, so look
Speaker 1: at Butch out there meeting the people, making the fans happy,
Speaker 1: giving them what they want. Oh and in August he's
Speaker 1: going to be at the Michigan Paranormal Convention. Fun. Ah,
Speaker 1: what a cool person. So again, thank you to Butch
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. And yeah, we always have
Speaker 1: a little bit extra on Patreon, So Patreon dot com
Speaker 1: slash ros Drezfeles. You can also see that video of
Speaker 1: me in Pasadena, California at some spooky places. And anyway,
Speaker 1: as I told you at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about a little bit of history
Speaker 1: that we mentioned in this episode. So the one place,
Speaker 1: the first place I wanted to talk about, is the
Speaker 1: Villa Montezuma, which conveniently I also went to the exterior
Speaker 1: of in a Patreon video a couple months back. It's
Speaker 1: in San Diego. It is a place I've absolutely fallen
Speaker 1: in love with because I did spend a good chunk
Speaker 1: of my pandemic not far from there, so I would
Speaker 1: spend time just looking at it. It's just such an
Speaker 1: amazing building. Google image it right now you'll see what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's a Queen Anne style guest mansion.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's not like gigantic, but it's just
Speaker 1: like it's like a little funky cool castle. I mean
Speaker 1: we're talking like gargoyles and stained glass and it's just
Speaker 1: like so extravagant and cool. And yeah, there's this guy
Speaker 1: named Jesse Shepherd and he lived there. The house was
Speaker 1: built in eighteen eighty seven, and he was a British
Speaker 1: musician and singer and spiritualists and he performed all over
Speaker 1: the world, and the Cizar of Russia's personal medium taught
Speaker 1: him seances, and so he began doing that, and he
Speaker 1: would claim to channel spirits when he was doing his
Speaker 1: musical performances, and people allegedly when he would perform, they
Speaker 1: would say it sounded like a full orchestra was coming
Speaker 1: out of only his mouth and piano, which I don't
Speaker 1: know how I did that, but that's pretty amazing. And
Speaker 1: then he ended up in San Diego after the first
Speaker 1: spiritual Society began there. He didn't live there for a
Speaker 1: super long time, and he died in nineteen twenty seven,
Speaker 1: literally while he was doing a concert. And so I
Speaker 1: guess the haunted history is that he haunts it. You
Speaker 1: should google image what he looks like to he was like,
Speaker 1: he had some style, honey, and he apparently haunts it.
Speaker 1: You can hear piano music playing in the middle of
Speaker 1: the night allegedly, and another man who's believed to be
Speaker 1: his butler apparently also died there, and people see his
Speaker 1: body in the front of the window peering out at night,
Speaker 1: and there's a stained glass window that has a man
Speaker 1: with a beard, and people believe that it's turning more gray,
Speaker 1: that the beard turns more gray as time goes on.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. It's just so it's like
Speaker 1: whimsical haunted, like so haunted mansion at Disneyland. It's very
Speaker 1: that I feel. And then also there's this corner of
Speaker 1: the yard where apparently plants just like refuse to grow
Speaker 1: and gardeners don't understand what's going on, and the plants
Speaker 1: are like, now, we're just not going to do it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: And so that might be a paranormal thing as well.
Speaker 1: And when it's not COVID time, the Historical Society that
Speaker 1: they've restored it and it is open for tours quarterly.
Speaker 1: And I was supposed to go right before COVID, but
Speaker 1: then COVID happened, or I think it was supposed to
Speaker 1: go like in May or something like that or mart
Speaker 1: I can't remember when, but then COVID happened and then
Speaker 1: I didn't get to go. But maybe one day I'll
Speaker 1: get to go inside. And if you're ever in San Diego,
Speaker 1: you should totally check it out, or at least like
Speaker 1: look it up on the internet or on my Patreon,
Speaker 1: whatever you want, and just see what it looks like
Speaker 1: because it's so cool. And then the other place that
Speaker 1: we talked about is to my voice, just crack. It's
Speaker 1: very possible. You can tell my voices a little weak.
Speaker 1: But another place we talked about was the Paramount Theater
Speaker 1: in Asbury, Part, New Jersey. Now I did look it
Speaker 1: up and I was like, yes, that's where I saw it.
Speaker 1: Kindred Spirits one of my faves. They went there, and
Speaker 1: that place is amazing. You know. I love an old theater,
Speaker 1: and particularly a haunted old theater, and this place has
Speaker 1: an insane history. There's this famous story of this ocean
Speaker 1: liner that caught fire and ran aground in nineteen thirty four,
Speaker 1: just like a few yards outside of the theater, which
Speaker 1: the theater is like connected to an arcade and convention center.
Speaker 1: I believe it's all kind of connected. And this shipwreck
Speaker 1: happened yards away from there, and one hundred and thirty people,
Speaker 1: both crew and passengers, died, and they actually used the
Speaker 1: theater as like a makeshift morgue after that disaster. And
Speaker 1: then in the fifties there was a fire and these
Speaker 1: two girls died and so maybe that's what Butch was referencing.
Speaker 1: Maybe one of those things that were horrific fire accidents
Speaker 1: also in the sixties of projectionist died there, and so like,
Speaker 1: there's just so much activity apparently that goes on there
Speaker 1: everything you want to happen in a haunted place, like
Speaker 1: odd noises and lights, flickering and apparitions and shadows and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And apparently you know the smell of
Speaker 1: fire as well, according to Butch, so very spooky place.
Speaker 1: And check out that episode of Kindred Spirits because I
Speaker 1: love that show so much. Anyway, Okay, I think that's
Speaker 1: about an out of me for today. Thank you guys
Speaker 1: for listening. Next week, I am so excited I got
Speaker 1: to talk to the Haunted Historian. His name is Connor Gossel.
Speaker 1: You might follow that Instagram page. It's a very popular
Speaker 1: Insta page. It is the Haunted Historian and Connor is
Speaker 1: a paranormal investigator and historian, and he gives me some
Speaker 1: of the scariest stories I have heard on this show.
Speaker 1: And you can look forward to that next week. So
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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.
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