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Speaker 3: I'll tell you the story. My grandmother, my sister Michelle,

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Speaker 4: We were very close to our grandmother, and my grandmother

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Speaker 4: And I found out it was going to be demolished

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Speaker 4: Mine's named Vicky Maine and Michael Lynch, who have a

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Speaker 1: So you, why do you think the ghosts don't visit you?

437
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. Good question.

438
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 4: I was living in this house by myself a lot,

439
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 4: and I would walk around at night and I say, hey,

440
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 4: guys out here, anytime you know, whatever you want to do,

441
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,719
Speaker 4: let me let it be known. And nothing zilch.

442
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: You would think they would be comfortable around you. Maybe

443
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: they just think that they couldn't scare you because.

444
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 4: I'm here to save the house.

445
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: You're welcome to stay. I know you're there. Maybe you

446
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: remember me as a kid back when I was visiting

447
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 3: my grandma. You know, I don't know.

448
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 4: I would walk around the house by myself, talking to

449
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 4: myself and to the ghost, and nothing ever happened.

450
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: What was so that video that you showed me where

451
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: you can see somebody walking, I mean, that was I've

452
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: seen a lot of ghost videos. That was a good one.

453
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: What was that?

454
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 3: That was my security camera that we founded.

455
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 4: We have the two cameras and one in the kitchen

456
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: and then one in the shooting at the front door

457
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 4: from the base of the stairway the main stairway. We

458
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: have a butler stairway as well, and that was basically

459
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: at three in the morning, UH pitch black infrared camera

460
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: activated from movement from a ghost that stepped across them.

461
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 4: You can see the first entity goes in front of

462
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 4: the lens and walks away from it, and then as

463
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 4: it becomes uh, as it moves a few feet from

464
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 4: the lens, you see it shooting at the front door,

465
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 4: and that's where you see the little I think it

466
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 4: was a kid goes to a very small ghost goes

467
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 4: shuffling by off to the side.

468
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 3: Now now now those are just that one's worn.

469
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 4: But I also have another one of a a blue

470
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: blinking entity that's that peeks out from the side of

471
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 4: the wall, and his face looks a lot like the

472
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: uh the actor that was in the Plan nine from

473
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 4: Outer Space, Oh, the vault George Johnson to Tours. Yeah,

474
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 4: who looks a lot like Tours. And I got a

475
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: picture of him and it looks a lot like him.

476
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: Man, it was.

477
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Wait, so you said that you sold the house.

478
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: Yes, I sold the house a few years ago.

479
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: Did you tell the people that it was haunted when

480
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: you sold it?

481
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 3: No, but I wanted to sell it, and yeah, I know.

482
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: I don't blame you.

483
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: I told them, I said, look at the to the realtor,

484
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: I said, if they asked, tell them the truth. But

485
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 4: if they don't ask, I'm not telling it. It's like

486
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 4: a hotel, you know. I just said, look at if

487
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 4: they did their research. Anybody that did any research on

488
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: this house, it's got a history of ghost activity.

489
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: So uh.

490
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 4: I never really spoke to the buyer personally, I but

491
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: directly through the realtor. The realtor found him. I don't

492
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 4: know if the realtor told him or not. And it

493
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 4: wasn't a deal breaker if they had me. If they

494
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 4: were going to tell them, fine, I don't even know.

495
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: If they may have known that, they may not have known. Honestly,

496
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't know.

497
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I understand because you for some people,

498
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: that's that's a selling point. For some people, that's a

499
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: big deal. A lot of people don't care, Like I'm

500
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: so used to talking to people about ghosts that I

501
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: think about this constantly. But a lot of people don't

502
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: believe in that. They don't really like they would probably

503
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: figure out a way to deny it anyway. You know

504
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 1: a lot of people, So you know, it's not it's

505
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: not that big of a deal. I don't think.

506
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 4: No, it was that I would have I didn't have

507
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 4: a problem with it. Literally, I asked my realtor. She says,

508
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: if they asked, they asked, they don't, they don't.

509
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: I go, okay, yeah, I'm yeah, So.

510
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 3: Do you think is the big thing is? I had

511
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: to be honest about it.

512
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 4: So it wasn't a matter of somebody got murdered in

513
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: the house or there was like horrible, you know, entities

514
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: running around. So I just said myself. I told them

515
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 4: the realtor, I go, what do you want to do

516
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 4: with it? And she says, it's for sale. They asked,

517
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 4: I'll tell them whatever they want to ask, I will

518
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 4: answer the question. And if they don't ask questions, I'm

519
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 4: not going to, you know, share stuff that they don't

520
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 4: they don't ask, And that was comfortable.

521
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: And if it's a big concern for somebody, if you're

522
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: going to buy an old house, you would probably ask,

523
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, I absolutely would. So you've never personally seen

524
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: a ghost or experience a ghost.

525
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: But it's funny. I've been around so many. I used

526
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,959
Speaker 4: to have a show called a cop Theater. Well it's

527
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 4: still on the air, but I used to do the

528
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 4: ghost thing. And what I would do with form a

529
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: cop theater. I would go out with this woman named

530
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 4: Bonnie Vint who was out of San Diego with paranormal

531
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 4: and we would go to Villamonta Zuma, we'd go to

532
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 4: the Waley House, we'd go to the Queen Mary and

533
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 4: the Roosevelt Hotel, all these high profile haunted addresses and locations.

534
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 4: And she kind of explained to me that you know,

535
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 4: this is how it works, and I'm kind of like

536
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: a radio transmitter from the other side, and people contact

537
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: me and then I try to put them in touch

538
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 4: with stuff.

539
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 3: So apparently a lot of people were reaching out to me.

540
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: But I guess I'm not a I guess I'm not

541
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: wired to receive their signals for some reason.

542
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people would say you can make

543
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: the decision to be open to it, and I don't

544
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: know if that's true or not. But would you say

545
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: that you are.

546
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: I tried, Yeah, I mean I do believe in them, yes,

547
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 4: I also, you know, there's just been so so much activity,

548
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: and there's so many Like they say, like if you ever,

549
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: like out of the corner of your eye, if you

550
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 4: ever look over, there's nothing there, and then you could

551
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 4: swarm them with something there that's usually a ghost, you know,

552
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 4: that's usually someone thing that was there that they're just

553
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 4: a little faster than you are as far as picking

554
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: up on them. But and then I've seen all kinds

555
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: of them. When I take pictures and I'm doing my videos,

556
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: I see the orbs on my screen, but I haven't

557
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: seen one without a device helping.

558
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's the spooky thing is like, yeah, they

559
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: could be there the whole time, it's just when you

560
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: take a picture you see them exactly. That's so interesting

561
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: that you went to all those places and nothing happened.

562
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: But the funny thing about that is, like all those

563
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: places that you named, I've also been to and also

564
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: have not had anything paranormal happen.

565
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 3: Let me tell you the story that you've been to. The

566
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: Villa Montazuma.

567
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I've never been inside, but I love that place. And

568
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: not enough people know about that place, but I've talked

569
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: about it a bit on this podcast Villamana Zuma.

570
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: The story behind Jesse Shepherd. This is amazing.

571
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: It's amazing Bondi Vant.

572
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: Who we went down to do the Villa monta Zuma thing.

573
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: Now, this is when I'm just getting ready to stop

574
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 4: drinking and partying. You know, I'm getting I've dropped the

575
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 4: rock and I'm deciding that I'm going to go the

576
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: rest of my life without the party mode.

577
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: So what do I do?

578
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: I get a letter that was supposedly written by Jesse

579
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 4: Shepherd to me to be delivered to me and my job.

580
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: He is requesting me, and it was handed to me

581
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 4: by body Vent through her connections on the other side,

582
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 4: and he was asking me to please bring down celebrities

583
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: and friends and make Villa monta Zuma the house that

584
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 4: it was designed to be. It was built into designed

585
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: to be like a lightning rod for entities and paranormal activity.

586
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: It was designed that way, and the house never achieved.

587
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: I mean, he was over in Europe entertaining czars and

588
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 4: kings and stuff, but the house that he built in

589
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: San Diego never became the go to place that he

590
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: wanted it to be for paranormal activity. And he wanted

591
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: me to help put it on the map by throwing

592
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 4: parties down there with celebrities.

593
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: Can you believe that? Well?

594
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: And I and from what I know about that place,

595
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: I think it was also a place of entertainment. And

596
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: he would he was like a world renowned pianist, right

597
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: or yeah yeah.

598
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah vocally he died playing the piano.

599
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so he would have these like incredible parties

600
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 1: and apparently people say that they can still hear him

601
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: play the piano.

602
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: I wanted it to continue, and he died.

603
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 4: The story behind his death is he was having a

604
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 4: party and he was playing and he we hit the

605
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: last vote and he took a bow and everybody thought

606
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: he was taking a bow and they were plotting.

607
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: They're potting their plot and he never came out of

608
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 3: his bow.

609
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 5: He is dead.

610
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: So he sends you a letter. So what did you do?

611
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 4: I basically told Bonnie. I said, I'm not comfortable doing this.

612
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 4: This is I'm getting ready to stop partying. I go,

613
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 4: isn't it ironic that basically a guy from the other side.

614
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm trying to quit partying and I have a guy

615
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 4: from the side encouraging me to continue.

616
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

617
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 4: And not just anybody Jesse Shephard at Billa Montezuma. I mean,

618
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 4: that's world fast stuff.

619
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: That's really cool. And the pictures I've seen of him,

620
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: he looks like a cool guy.

621
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Very interesting place, very interesting.

622
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: But what about the Queen Mary. The Queen Mary Queen

623
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: Mary Ann Whaley House living in southern California. I bent

624
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: to both of them a few times, and those are

625
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: both places that people are like, the most haunted place

626
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: in the world, NonStop activity, and I've never had anything happen.

627
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: Same with the thing.

628
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 4: The only thing I had happened in the Queen Mary

629
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 4: was I felt that somebody had pushed me and shoved.

630
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: Me a little bit.

631
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: You know. It was like, you know, the boats moored,

632
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 4: so it's not moving, and so it was a feeling

633
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 4: as if somebody had motioned you and pushed you side

634
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 4: to side a little bit, like like that. The ship

635
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: was at sea was about as much of it. But

636
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: I'll tell you there's another place called the Paramount Theater

637
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: that is famous for being the place next to Asbury Park,

638
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 4: the Convention Center on the boardwalk. It had a looked

639
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 4: this one up too, because it had a bad fire

640
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 4: and a bunch of people burned up in the theater,

641
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 4: in the dressing.

642
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: Room and the makeup area.

643
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: And I had the keys to this place because I

644
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: did a haunted attraction there for a month, and I

645
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: used to go in the place in the middle of

646
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 4: the night to just get away from people. And it

647
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: was just so spooky and cool. But you could smell,

648
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: oh my god, the smells of the death, of the

649
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 4: of the burning. You wouldn't smell it when you know,

650
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 4: when you're when the place was open and there's other

651
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: people around, but if you're by yourself. For some reason,

652
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: that place was extremely uh had a it had a

653
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 4: memory for me of the smells of this burnt flesh

654
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 4: from a fire.

655
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, where was that.

656
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 3: Paramount Theater in Asbury Park?

657
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I feel like I saw that on like

658
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: a paranormal show or something.

659
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very famous for Springstein doing his concerts at

660
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 4: the Convention Hall and it's on the boardwalk and Asbury Park.

661
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: I lit the place up. We call it as Scary

662
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 4: Park for halloweens.

663
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: What about at Universal Studios? Never had anything happen there?

664
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 3: No, no, And I used to.

665
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 4: It's funny too, because I used to when I had

666
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 4: three were time to go mosey around by myself.

667
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 3: I would go to the Phantom of the Opera stage.

668
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: That's where they used to say was so hot, I.

669
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 4: Know, And I would climb and I would climb the

670
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 4: ladders on the side and go all the way up

671
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 4: to the fifth story catwalks and wander all around and

672
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 4: go into the boxes, the opera theater boxes. That was

673
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: my go to place because it was such a cool, spooky,

674
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 4: giant soundstage.

675
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is so cool. What in those

676
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: days did people talk about that being haunted?

677
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: Yes?

678
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know the story with that is that

679
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 1: it's it was, you know, from the Phantom of the Opera,

680
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 1: and it was still standing up until a couple of

681
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: years ago they took down the set, which I think

682
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: the sound stage was built around that set, and so

683
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: it just remained there for years, this old theater. And

684
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: they say that lawn Cheney haunted it, and they say

685
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: that I believe an electrician fell from those rafters and

686
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: haunted as well. Spooky, it wouldn't surprise me.

687
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: It was a very It was a very It was

688
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 4: very interesting as a kid to be able to go

689
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 4: you know, I always enjoyed going in the big giant

690
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 4: rooms and just being the only person in there anyway.

691
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 4: It's just kind of an interesting way of going about it.

692
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: But with that particular soundstage, being able to go in

693
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 4: there by myself and just wander around and climb and

694
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 4: do this and do that, you know, on the untethered,

695
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: so to speak, it was really neat. I was very

696
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: lucky to be able to go around studio interesting studio

697
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: stuff alone.

698
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: And it is funny.

699
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 4: It's like when I used to walk around my house,

700
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 4: which was built in eighteen seventy five in Missouri, in

701
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 4: the middle of the night, trying to get the ghost

702
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 4: to come out. I wondered about how many thousands and

703
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 4: thousands of parties these people had and all this stuff

704
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 4: that went on in this house over the last you know,

705
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,919
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty years.

706
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: So it was pretty crazy.

707
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Well, especially a place like Universal Studios, which has been

708
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: there since nineteen fifteen, It's like, can you just even

709
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: imagine all of the people that I've walked on that soil?

710
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: And do you know about that the famous ghost story

711
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: from the day that Universal Studios opened. No, there was

712
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: a plane crash. They were doing a big grand opening

713
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 1: and they had this stunt aerial list or whatever you know,

714
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: he would did I think he did, I'm sorry, like

715
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: a wingwalker. He did something I don't know what. It was,

716
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: some kind of stunt with an involving an airplane, and

717
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 1: it went horribly wrong, and this man fell in front

718
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: of a lot of people, and they say that he

719
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: people see a man dressed in you know that the

720
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: pilot you know, nineteen fifties kind of uniform, just walking

721
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: around the back law. That's what they say. Over by

722
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 1: kind of by like where the Bates Motel set is,

723
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: is what I've heard.

724
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: Wow, spooky, it is spooky.

725
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of you know, I mean, there's

726
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: just now that I actually know that I had a

727
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 4: lot of paranormal teams could spend the night in my

728
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: house because they wanted to check out the activity. And

729
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: I'd go, I'd say, okay, good, I guy, locked the

730
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 4: door when you leave, because they would plan on leaving it,

731
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: you know, two or three in the morning, and I'd

732
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 4: go upstairs, and I'd come down the next day and

733
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: they're still there because they're getting so much activity that

734
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: they couldn't leave. They go, this is just there's so

735
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: much active, active stuff going on in this house that

736
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 4: we just kept the the tape rolling and the and

737
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: the and the sensors going and okay, no problem.

738
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: Did they ever capture EVPs or like ghost voices? Yeah, well, okay,

739
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: I do a little thing on here. Would you be

740
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 1: cool to do a little segment where I play ghost voices?

741
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

742
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, I've heard the I've heard the voice side

743
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 4: of the Whaley House.

744
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 3: Bonnie said.

745
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 4: I think she's like one of the only people actually

746
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 4: record an actual voice out of there.

747
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe she was just bragging, but h.

748
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: Okay, it's tough for EVP or ev plicse. I go

749
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: to YouTube and I I find EVPs Electronic Voice Phenomena,

750
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: and then I have my guests guess what the voice

751
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: is saying, or what the paranormal investigator thinks that the

752
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 1: voice is saying. It's kind of hard to do over zoom,

753
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: but we'll try our best. Okay. These are both from Missouri.

754
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: There's two of them here. This first one is from

755
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: the Missouri State Penitentiary. Tell me if you hear anything

756
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: or what you hear. It's there's a lot of background noise,

757
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: but there's a whisper. No, I'll play it again, and

758
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: he guesses.

759
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

760
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I'll give you some options. It's one of these. Is

761
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: it a dumb cat? B stop that? See it's all good?

762
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 3: Or deep?

763
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Just nothing here? I'll play it again. Nothing They believe

764
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 1: it says stop that, which I can kind of okay.

765
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: Knowing that let's hear it again, I can kind of.

766
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: Okay.

767
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Here's one more. This one's from Right Paranormal Group on

768
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: YouTube and it's at the Quitman Cemetery in Notaway County, Missouri.

769
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: And tell me what you hear here. It's kind of

770
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: a whisper.

771
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there it again? What are my options?

772
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: Okay? Is it a yep, yep? B shut up? C

773
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: mom you're up? Or D I'm so so cute? Okay,

774
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: am I playing.

775
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: Momb You're up?

776
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 1: That's what they think. Yeah, they said they think it

777
00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 1: says mom, you're up your old plate again. I don't

778
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: know what that's I guess well, I guess that's about it.

779
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for doing this. Can you, you know,

780
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: tell people where to find you and if you have

781
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: any appearances coming up or anything.

782
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 4: This is pretty everybody, get a pen and a paper

783
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 4: and you're need to write this down. You can find

784
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: me at monsters dot com.

785
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 3: That was easy enough, that's the joke.

786
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: And are you doing you know, appearances and meet and

787
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: greets and.

788
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: Stuff monsters dot com?

789
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 1: Amazing?

790
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, I know the answer your question. Yes I am.

791
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to be doing the movies and the magic

792
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 4: and the meet and greets and it's all. If you

793
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: go to Munster dot com you'll see my schedule and

794
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: and all my appearances.

795
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,919
Speaker 1: I love it. Well. I so appreciate you doing this.

796
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 1: This is so kind of you, and I hope you

797
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: have a great trip and keep in touch.

798
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you so much. You take care.

799
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: Okay, So I did, indeed go to Monsters dot com

800
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: and you should as well. There's a lot of great

801
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: stuff on there if you're a Monsters fan. And some

802
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: of these upcoming events happening. An event called Horrorville, which

803
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: is a horror pop up shop, which is happening in Southgate, California,

804
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: on the fifteenth. Butch will be there, Oh and the sixteenth,

805
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: that's exciting, but you will also be On the twenty first,

806
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: he is at the Music City Toys and Collectibles events,

807
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: which is in water Town, Tennessee. Oh my gosh, he's everywhere.

808
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: On the twenty second, there's something called Bo's Extravaganza, which

809
00:44:56,719 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: is in some place. Oh my gosh, there's so many things.

810
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 1: He is all over the place. Days of the Dead Indianapolis.

811
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: This looks like fun. That's in July. Yeah, so look

812
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: at Butch out there meeting the people, making the fans happy,

813
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: giving them what they want. Oh and in August he's

814
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: going to be at the Michigan Paranormal Convention. Fun. Ah,

815
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: what a cool person. So again, thank you to Butch

816
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: for coming on the show. And yeah, we always have

817
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: a little bit extra on Patreon, So Patreon dot com

818
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: slash ros Drezfeles. You can also see that video of

819
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: me in Pasadena, California at some spooky places. And anyway,

820
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 1: as I told you at the top of the show,

821
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about a little bit of history

822
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: that we mentioned in this episode. So the one place,

823
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: the first place I wanted to talk about, is the

824
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 1: Villa Montezuma, which conveniently I also went to the exterior

825
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: of in a Patreon video a couple months back. It's

826
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: in San Diego. It is a place I've absolutely fallen

827
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: in love with because I did spend a good chunk

828
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: of my pandemic not far from there, so I would

829
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: spend time just looking at it. It's just such an

830
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: amazing building. Google image it right now you'll see what

831
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It's a Queen Anne style guest mansion.

832
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: And I mean it's not like gigantic, but it's just

833
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 1: like it's like a little funky cool castle. I mean

834
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 1: we're talking like gargoyles and stained glass and it's just

835
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: like so extravagant and cool. And yeah, there's this guy

836
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: named Jesse Shepherd and he lived there. The house was

837
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: built in eighteen eighty seven, and he was a British

838
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: musician and singer and spiritualists and he performed all over

839
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: the world, and the Cizar of Russia's personal medium taught

840
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: him seances, and so he began doing that, and he

841
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: would claim to channel spirits when he was doing his

842
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: musical performances, and people allegedly when he would perform, they

843
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: would say it sounded like a full orchestra was coming

844
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: out of only his mouth and piano, which I don't

845
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 1: know how I did that, but that's pretty amazing. And

846
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: then he ended up in San Diego after the first

847
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: spiritual Society began there. He didn't live there for a

848
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: super long time, and he died in nineteen twenty seven,

849
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: literally while he was doing a concert. And so I

850
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: guess the haunted history is that he haunts it. You

851
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: should google image what he looks like to he was like,

852
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: he had some style, honey, and he apparently haunts it.

853
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: You can hear piano music playing in the middle of

854
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: the night allegedly, and another man who's believed to be

855
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: his butler apparently also died there, and people see his

856
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: body in the front of the window peering out at night,

857
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: and there's a stained glass window that has a man

858
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: with a beard, and people believe that it's turning more gray,

859
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: that the beard turns more gray as time goes on.

860
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: I love it.

861
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 1: I love everything about it. It's just so it's like

862
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: whimsical haunted, like so haunted mansion at Disneyland. It's very

863
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: that I feel. And then also there's this corner of

864
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: the yard where apparently plants just like refuse to grow

865
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: and gardeners don't understand what's going on, and the plants

866
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: are like, now, we're just not going to do it. Sorry,

867
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: And so that might be a paranormal thing as well.

868
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,879
Speaker 1: And when it's not COVID time, the Historical Society that

869
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: they've restored it and it is open for tours quarterly.

870
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: And I was supposed to go right before COVID, but

871
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Speaker 1: then COVID happened, or I think it was supposed to

872
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: go like in May or something like that or mart

873
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: I can't remember when, but then COVID happened and then

874
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: I didn't get to go. But maybe one day I'll

875
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: get to go inside. And if you're ever in San Diego,

876
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: you should totally check it out, or at least like

877
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: look it up on the internet or on my Patreon,

878
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: whatever you want, and just see what it looks like

879
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 1: because it's so cool. And then the other place that

880
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: we talked about is to my voice, just crack. It's

881
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: very possible. You can tell my voices a little weak.

882
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: But another place we talked about was the Paramount Theater

883
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: in Asbury, Part, New Jersey. Now I did look it

884
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 1: up and I was like, yes, that's where I saw it.

885
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: Kindred Spirits one of my faves. They went there, and

886
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: that place is amazing. You know. I love an old theater,

887
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 1: and particularly a haunted old theater, and this place has

888
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 1: an insane history. There's this famous story of this ocean

889
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: liner that caught fire and ran aground in nineteen thirty four,

890
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: just like a few yards outside of the theater, which

891
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: the theater is like connected to an arcade and convention center.

892
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: I believe it's all kind of connected. And this shipwreck

893
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: happened yards away from there, and one hundred and thirty people,

894
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: both crew and passengers, died, and they actually used the

895
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 1: theater as like a makeshift morgue after that disaster. And

896
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: then in the fifties there was a fire and these

897
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: two girls died and so maybe that's what Butch was referencing.

898
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 1: Maybe one of those things that were horrific fire accidents

899
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: also in the sixties of projectionist died there, and so like,

900
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 1: there's just so much activity apparently that goes on there

901
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 1: everything you want to happen in a haunted place, like

902
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 1: odd noises and lights, flickering and apparitions and shadows and

903
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: all that stuff. And apparently you know the smell of

904
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: fire as well, according to Butch, so very spooky place.

905
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Speaker 1: And check out that episode of Kindred Spirits because I

906
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: love that show so much. Anyway, Okay, I think that's

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Speaker 1: about an out of me for today. Thank you guys

908
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 1: for listening. Next week, I am so excited I got

909
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 1: to talk to the Haunted Historian. His name is Connor Gossel.

910
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: You might follow that Instagram page. It's a very popular

911
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 1: Insta page. It is the Haunted Historian and Connor is

912
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: a paranormal investigator and historian, and he gives me some

913
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 1: of the scariest stories I have heard on this show.

914
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Speaker 1: And you can look forward to that next week. So

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Speaker 1: make sure you're subscribed. As always, please rate the show

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Speaker 1: by Roz at gmail dot com with the subject line

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Speaker 1: listener episode. I think that's it. I think I did it.

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Speaker 1: I love you all, both living and dead. But if

924
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Speaker 1: I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

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