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Speaker 1: With a rendre from New York.

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Speaker 2: I'm from New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you grew up just partying and raging.

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Speaker 2: I want to say, grew up partying and raging.

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Speaker 1: I was twelve years old. You were drinking.

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Speaker 2: Now you took it too far. I was born in

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Speaker 2: New York. I was born in Harlem, Mount Sinai. I

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Speaker 2: was born yes, yes, New York. CARDI b New York concrete.

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Speaker 2: You got to be born on the asphalt for you

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Speaker 2: to actually be in New Yorker.

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Speaker 1: So you're tough. You're getting fights in middle school shop.

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Speaker 2: I was put a pin in that. So then two

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Speaker 2: years old, I moved to Oakland, California, and I lived.

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Speaker 1: So extra tough. No Harlem to Oakland.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you no. I was living with my

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Speaker 2: great aunt and great uncles. So I lived in a

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Speaker 2: very like old neighborhood. Like everybody was over sixty five

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Speaker 2: years old. All my neighbors, everybody nobody was young, went

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Speaker 2: to church with older people. So I became like an

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Speaker 2: old soul.

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Speaker 1: Like it was just so you hung out with geezers

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Speaker 1: all the time, all elderly people.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm.

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Speaker 1: From bukers On, Florida. So those were tied the Oakland

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Speaker 1: of Florida.

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Speaker 2: No different because it's retired, like money citizen. These are

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Speaker 2: like oh they they were in the civil rights movement.

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Speaker 2: They were passing out bean pies.

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Speaker 1: So it's like Stokey Carmichael, whoever that is Huey.

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Speaker 2: Newton, Yes, Huey Newton if he had diabetes.

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Speaker 1: And you know missing toes.

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Speaker 2: Missing toes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So so you grew up in Oakland, Yes, grew

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Speaker 1: up in Oakland and you were drinking. You're popping ex pills.

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Speaker 2: They didn't let me do anything I had to have.

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Speaker 2: They didn't let me have cereal that had sugar, and

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Speaker 2: I had the regular corn flakes regular. And then I

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Speaker 2: would have to say my great aunt and uncles, I

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Speaker 2: live with him. I didn't live in my moum. You didn't. No,

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Speaker 2: I was with it. They raise me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you're a wild child.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So from two to thirteen I live with them,

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Speaker 2: and very like old school. I couldn't have any friends.

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Speaker 2: I only was with my cousins.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't have friends. How was that old school? That's

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Speaker 1: not that's not a real thing. No, I can't have friends.

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Speaker 2: I think, very like religious.

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Speaker 1: But they were Jehovah's witness.

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Speaker 2: They were not Jehovah's Jehovah's witness.

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Speaker 1: They were you believe only one hundred and forty four

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Speaker 1: thousand people get No.

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Speaker 2: They just was like, the Lord is your friend. You

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Speaker 2: don't need friends.

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Speaker 1: So they were like, yes, yes, that's where we were.

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Speaker 1: That's how they work.

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Speaker 2: You've never been to church, never was, It's clearly. I

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Speaker 2: was like, this is a bad impersonation of church and

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Speaker 2: Jewish Catholic.

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Speaker 1: I knew this religious.

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Speaker 2: I said, he's not gonna get it right, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not gonna get struck down because of this.

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Speaker 1: I will yeah, go to Hell already. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: You see the light click right now because it is easy.

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Speaker 2: Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you very spiritual as well? Do you have a

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Speaker 1: Wigi board?

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Speaker 2: Well that's not spiritual, yes it is. No, it's not.

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Speaker 2: I talked to the undead that the Ouiji board is

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Speaker 2: for the heathens. We don't do that. I'm not trying

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Speaker 2: to revoke the spirits.

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Speaker 1: Oh I revoke the spirits.

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Speaker 2: No, we're not doing that.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm playing records backwards. I'm pooring purple fucking

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Speaker 1: candles on my chest.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy that you were like, you were doing drugs

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Speaker 2: and you're drinking it. As a kid, I couldn't even

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Speaker 2: have sugar because they had everything they had with sugar free.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you had a very almost a rigid upbringing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so rigid that when you turn thirteen you started popping

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Speaker 1: pills and no, okay, when did the drugs and then

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Speaker 1: drinking come up?

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say. I'm going to say, like, I

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Speaker 2: went to college, and I remember Absolute Citron had a

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Speaker 2: choke hold on me. So I was drinking that and

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Speaker 2: ninety nine apples solely ras hypnotic. It was that. But

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Speaker 2: that's college. That's college. Yes, Like, no, no, no, we

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Speaker 2: passed them hard limited. We don't no, no, no, we

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Speaker 2: didn't do none of straight. Massachusetts were in Massachusetts, Worcester.

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Speaker 2: I went to Clark University.

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Speaker 1: You went there, you went to school, fucking dude.

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Speaker 2: I was working at the Auba mall. I was going

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Speaker 2: to ask her a secret. Yeah, it was a good time.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that drugs happened like right after college

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Speaker 2: because I was interning at a public relations firm and

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Speaker 2: nightlife for that I kind of got hooked up somebody

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Speaker 2: from there. Okay, I had a friend that was I

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Speaker 2: was interning with. She went to university in Miami or whatever.

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Speaker 2: She was like, Oh, they party there, And I had

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Speaker 2: never been to Miami, so I didn't know how they party.

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Speaker 2: But she always would like have all this energy and

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Speaker 2: we'd be at the clubs and she was like jumping

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Speaker 2: off banquettes and dancing all night. And I was like,

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Speaker 2: how does she doing this? Like it's not just baka cran.

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Speaker 2: Eventually I asked her. I was like, Yo, what's up

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Speaker 2: with this? She was like, Oh, it's party goods. So

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Speaker 2: the line was really long, and she's like, we don't

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Speaker 2: need to do it in the bathroom. We went outside.

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Speaker 1: This is after college. After college, this happened in New York.

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Speaker 2: This happened in New York though. She but I'm saying

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Speaker 2: she's a Miami person. So yes, so from Miami. The

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Speaker 2: you'll see what I'm talking about. So she's that we're

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Speaker 2: outside in the nightclub, and she's like, we're just gonna

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Speaker 2: do the bumps outside, which is not a New York thing.

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Speaker 2: We don't do that, but she says that's how to

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Speaker 2: do it in Miami. It's not a big deal. So

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Speaker 2: she does some and before I could even get a

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Speaker 2: bump in, the DT's come undercover cops. They're in a

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Speaker 2: Texi and so the first time I was about to

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Speaker 2: do cocaine, couldn't because the undercover cops come. I throw

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Speaker 2: the bag. Literally they catch it.

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Speaker 1: They catch it. It was like hops catch.

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Speaker 2: The catch I literally I threw it into the hands

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Speaker 2: pretty much. They catch it.

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Speaker 1: And so why did you do that?

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Speaker 2: Because foolish. I was scared. I heard that, I heard them,

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Speaker 2: and I threw it and it was.

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Speaker 1: The worst situation.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, they they laughed at how foolish I was.

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Speaker 2: So then you were like, yeah, exactly. And so so

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Speaker 2: then I'm crying immediately because I was like, we're going

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Speaker 2: to jail. We're going to jail. And my friend, she's short, Latina,

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Speaker 2: also Jewish, big titties.

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Speaker 1: And her numbers.

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Speaker 2: Knockers knock or hit you in the face.

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Speaker 1: Is she coming over the way?

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Speaker 2: She was so calm, She's like, we're going to be fine,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, tears coming over. We're going to jail.

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Speaker 2: I don't having money. I'm a black woman. This is crazy.

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Speaker 2: They come and they look at us and they take

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Speaker 2: our D's and they see where she's from, and they're like,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing over here? Why are you doing

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Speaker 2: such a thing? And then me tears just streaming down,

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Speaker 2: and then they're looking at her like why are you

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Speaker 2: hanging out with me? They think I'm the bad guy,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, I ain't never done this before.

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Speaker 2: I don't even get none. Check my blood. There's no

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Speaker 2: drugs inside of it test right now. Literally, no party

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Speaker 2: goods have been in my system. So then they go

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Speaker 2: through her wallet and they look and through stuff, and

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Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're like, all right, come with us.

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Speaker 2: They don't handcuff us, they don't law and order us.

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Speaker 2: There's no Miranda rights, no click click nothing. We're in

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Speaker 2: the back of the taxi. The taxi because they're in

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Speaker 2: a taxi car. They're in an undercover Yes, it was

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Speaker 2: in a yellow cab. We get in the back of

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Speaker 2: the cab and they're like, so, what y'all want to eat?

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Speaker 2: And she she was like see, and I was like okay,

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Speaker 2: and I'm still scared. I was like, oh, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: murder us, Like they're gonna go eat. They take us

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Speaker 2: to a diner and she's like, order whatever you want. Like,

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Speaker 2: it was just big titty energy, like we're gonna, We're gonna.

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Speaker 1: They were like you guys, yes, they were just like,

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Speaker 1: forget about the coke, let's go on a little date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I was like, Oh, I just want

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Speaker 2: a side of eggs and like toast. She's like, she's

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Speaker 2: like getting waffles, Get get a grand slam, bitch, whatever

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Speaker 2: you want.

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Speaker 1: She's like hustler, yes exactly.

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Speaker 2: Because she's lit and she's having a good time. They

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Speaker 2: stay with us for like two hours.

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Speaker 1: They asked her, ma.

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Speaker 2: She's married now, but she can she's free as a bird,

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Speaker 2: So then, wow, you would have actually liked her. She's

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Speaker 2: a reform woman. And now anyways, they drop us off.

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Speaker 2: She's like, can you believe they didn't give us our

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Speaker 2: coke back? I spent my last fifty on the on

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Speaker 2: the coke. She gets it. She had gotten their number

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Speaker 2: at the dock. She said, I'm gonna call them up.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get our drugs back.

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Speaker 1: A woman, maybe you blow her maybe.

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Speaker 2: Years later, I'm like, girl, can you remember that time

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to get arrested? And I'm thinking I

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Speaker 2: was like, it's because you're so hot, you're boobs. She's like, no,

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Speaker 2: my cousin's a cop. They saw the little car. There's

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Speaker 2: a card when like you're a relative of like, wait,

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Speaker 2: how do I get that you got cop relatives? There

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Speaker 2: was something there's something like some kind of like waiver

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Speaker 2: or something like. But for the longest time, I was

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Speaker 2: like I and I was flat as a board. I

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Speaker 2: was like, it's because I don't have titties.

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Speaker 1: I need titties. Based on that, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Afterwards, afterwards, I was like and she was like, no, girl,

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Speaker 2: I have a you know, we and a fam. What

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Speaker 2: are you talking about? And so it blew mine the

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Speaker 2: whole time. I was like she she's she's a shortie,

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Speaker 2: she's a chicken nugget, but she's got bodies. She got

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Speaker 2: the boo and she got the like Miami like you know,

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Speaker 2: you're doing what I say, like dominatrix energy, and she's

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Speaker 2: the whole time, and she actually hit them up for

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Speaker 2: her drugs. I said, girl, if you go to jail

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Speaker 2: or end up dead, they don't have nothing to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible woman. What a powerful woman with a

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