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Speaker 1: Facebook group called Ghosted by Roz dressfalas a great place

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Speaker 1: to this one. When I was about twelve years old

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Speaker 1: we want to hear all of them. Uh, that's scary.

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Speaker 1: I love the idea of a ghost that's like, we're

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Speaker 1: That is so funny but also scary. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: yet another conversation that I have had with Sam Pancake. Now.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Hello, Ross, how are you. I'm happy to be back.

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Speaker 1: I know I'm so good you. I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't believe I've had like over one hundred

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Speaker 3: In my No, no, no, I put you in the

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Over the hill? Past or prime

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Speaker 1: I know it is. Well. Another thing that we talked

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Speaker 3: security guard.

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00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: He was gonna be like hey, hey, hey guys.

436
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 3: Or whatever he said, and so he made a real

437
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: smooth thing about kind of kicking us away from there.

438
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: Right, nothing was going off going off. Now, we don't

439
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 1: know what was in that room. Maybe it was something

440
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,800
Speaker 1: that was transmitting you know, waves, I'm not really sure,

441
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: but it also is the ghost room. I think it's

442
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: where they keep the ghosts in the Padlockham. I'm not

443
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: really sure we were.

444
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 3: We were like dddd all around the hotel for a

445
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: minute and it wasn't un till we were around that room.

446
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: Is that's when the security guard was like, oh, hey, hi,

447
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:16,479
Speaker 3: you know hy Dude's or whatever he said, And then we.

448
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 1: Asked him is this place haunted? And he was like, oh,

449
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: I just started working here.

450
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

451
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: But I think that was his like catch all excuse,

452
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: I think exactly.

453
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: But also on that trip, we went to the Winchester

454
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: Mystery House, which is a classic classic California haunted location,

455
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: and neither of us had ever been, right, you'd never been, no,

456
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: I always wanted to go and that place, like I

457
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: was really bummed because of course I would have made

458
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: like a Patreon video, but they don't allow video or.

459
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 3: It's a very regimented. There's a gigantic gift shop which

460
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 3: we took advantage of, and I amazing hat and mug

461
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: I still wear all the time. And I also is

462
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: another part of like thank god, I you know, spent

463
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 3: five hundred dollars on a cap in a mug because

464
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 3: I didn't go anywhere touristy for another year.

465
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: I know barely. Oh look at look at.

466
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 3: There it is there, it is.

467
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: Hey, if I could came out of my Winchester Mystery

468
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: House coffee mugger.

469
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: Mine is just beyond reach, it's right over there in

470
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: my kitchen.

471
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: That place was like the Disney store in the mall,

472
00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: but with only.

473
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 3: Uh, Winchester. It's a fool. I don't remember much it

474
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: was and this is I know this isn't like a

475
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 3: travelogue podcast, but I even there were many different tours

476
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: you could take. We we took the basic one because

477
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 3: they're basic bitches. Just the main house. You can do

478
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: one with a garden and the outbuildings, and there was

479
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 3: a cellar, but we were satisfied with just the main one.

480
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: But like you you line up, a ticket is taken.

481
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: Your putting, you know, it's I was, I'm sorry to jump.

482
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 1: The destination like they have it under control.

483
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I thought it would be bigger, and I am,

484
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 3: of course an obnoxious person who lived in a Winchester

485
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,479
Speaker 3: Mystery House and which was pretty big. This was of

486
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: course bigger than the mill Meadow.

487
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: But how that you grew up in was how big again.

488
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Twenty two rooms, but also had the aspect of having

489
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: been added onto a lot. So there were like windows

490
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: that looked into hallways, and there were all kinds of

491
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: like steps up and down and around and rooms behind

492
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: rooms and these like a staircase you don't expect there,

493
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: and again not these were. It's the kind of house

494
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: that like the rooms were small. It wasn't one of

495
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 3: these grand you know, pre Civil war houses where that

496
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: they had.

497
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Like my marvel, because it's like whoa and it was.

498
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: Anyone that doesn't know the story the the Winchester Mystery House, uh,

499
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: I've talked about it on this podcast in the past.

500
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could find me talking about it. But

501
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: based this woman, Sarah Winchester.

502
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: Her husband was her either her father or her husband

503
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 3: was the person who was the you know, the heir

504
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: or the creator of the Winchester Rifle fortune. And a

505
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 3: spiritualist or medium told her that if she didn't keep

506
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 3: building onto the house, all the dead spirits that were

507
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,959
Speaker 3: killed by their rifles would come and get her, and

508
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: she believed them. So she never stopped building and adding

509
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: on and putting staircases and buildings in Gota Ga Ga

510
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: Ga until she died.

511
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 1: And people to this day report it being very haunted,

512
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: and even our tour guide had ghost stories of oh,

513
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: when you stand at this location, we've had this happen,

514
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: and that happened, and people touched and they hear this

515
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: and that.

516
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 3: And she was the bride of the guy, because otherwise,

517
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: if she was the daughter she would they would have

518
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,479
Speaker 3: already had the money, she would know. So I think

519
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: pretty sure she was the.

520
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: She was left a lot of money, and he.

521
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: Died yeah younger, she was young. Whatever happened. He died

522
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 3: way before her, and she inherited all this stuff, but she,

523
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: I guess, wasn't super comfortable with it.

524
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: One of my favorite paranormal TV shows, Ghost Brothers, they

525
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: did an investigation there and really it went down. Yeah,

526
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: it was really interesting.

527
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: I want to see that.

528
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: I recommend it to people. I thought it was really fun.

529
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, But the thing is like the point was

530
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: like that no ghosts would be there, So she built

531
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 3: the thing to prevent ghosts from getting her spirits or whatever.

532
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: So wouldn't there be no ghosts there until well, I

533
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: guess after she died and they stopped building onto it,

534
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 3: then the ghosts show up, the spirits show will take over.

535
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 3: Is that their logic? I don't know.

536
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they have to keep selling, coming up with

537
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: more products at the gift shop, or the ghost will

538
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: take over. Yeah.

539
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: And they also had a giant miniature of the whole property,

540
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: and maybe they have that to trick the ghosts into

541
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: going into the miniature. Maybe the miniature's home like beetlejuice,

542
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: like beetle juice. Yeah, exactly.

543
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: Now. One other thing I'll say about this is our

544
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: tour guide did a fun thing where before he would

545
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: tell story about uh about the building. He would get

546
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: everyone together and say, stay with me, story story time

547
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: to time, which I have stolen and I say constantly,

548
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 1: and even even when Rocky my Bomberanian has to go

549
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: to the bathroom, I say potty potty time time.

550
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: He also kept calling Sarah his spray. He's like my

551
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: friend Sarah. It was very funny. I think he was.

552
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, let me tell you about my

553
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: friend Sarah.

554
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: I think he was an LGBTQ community like us, and

555
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: I wanted to like kind of flirt with him at

556
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: the end, but he kind of remember I would talk

557
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: to him, he wasn't really having I thought he's gonna

558
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 3: love us, but at the end of it, he was

559
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 3: kind of like, uh huh, because I was kind of like,

560
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: I have an extra question. He was like question answered

561
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: and goodbye. I'm like, oh, I guess we're not dating

562
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: after all. Okay.

563
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: He was super sweet. He was having a good time.

564
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: He was very sassy and very funny. He made it

565
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: really fun and it was it's wild. Yeah, I do

566
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 3: recommend that that whole experience.

567
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: I suppose we should talk about like a ghost story

568
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: ghost story podcast. Okay, so a couple of stories that

569
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: I know that you have that we haven't you haven't

570
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: told on this show yet. Can we hear the one

571
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: about your brother?

572
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: Well, the thing about that is yeah, yea yeah. The

573
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 3: thing this is something that I only heard from my

574
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 3: older sister Anne recently. Can I grew up in this

575
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: old house called Mill Meadow, which we sold to just

576
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 3: it's not in the family anymore. It has really good owners.

577
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 3: Thank god. That's a whole I was just back in

578
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 3: West Virginia to help my mom after her hip operation

579
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: the first week of April, and so I drove past

580
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 3: mill Meadow and it's like, it looks great and they're

581
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: doing a great job. Because when I lived there and

582
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 3: then when I would turn where my parents live there,

583
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: all the emotional stuff from a big very you know,

584
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 3: dysfunctional family. Wait, you feel that more. You can't just

585
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 3: tell what's that and what's the spirits? You know, and

586
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,959
Speaker 3: it's all pretty connected because my grandfather died there and

587
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: it was just a lot.

588
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: So you did have somebody breathe on your neck. One.

589
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've had a few little experiences. But the thing

590
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: that I had told you that I haven't sell on

591
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 3: the podcast yet is that my brother Michael, who still

592
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 3: is back in that town. My sister Anne told him

593
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 3: and I didn't hear this from his mouth because he's

594
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: not really the long story and he's alive. It's just

595
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 3: we haven't spoken in a while, but he used to

596
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 3: experience a spirit of a woman who was this orange presence.

597
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 3: The color was orange. And Michael's always been He's had

598
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: a lot of issues, but he's always apparently there's been

599
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: more in tune with the other side than I was.

600
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 3: And some of the other siblings, and my older sister

601
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: Anne is too, She's the one when we moved out,

602
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 3: she and her partner did a cleansing and all kinds

603
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: of shit came flying out of there like it was

604
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: just a profound and very wild experience. That place was

605
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: filled with energies and spirits the whole place, but this

606
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: particular one was a female, a caretaking female spirit. He

607
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 3: would experience in this one room. We would call it

608
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 3: the green room. It's not it was only because the

609
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: color was green. We would refer to as the green room,

610
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 3: not to be confused with a theater, you know, or

611
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 3: a nightclub green room or the guest room. And it

612
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 3: would go from one of the middle bedroom through the

613
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 3: hallway into that room, and my brother always got the

614
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 3: sense that it was a female spirit who was there

615
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: to help take care of the children. And I don't

616
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 3: know if that was a servant that used to be

617
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: there or what there, or a mother that does or

618
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 3: what this spirit was, but he always made him feel

619
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 3: very safe and comforted. And my older sister, who also

620
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: has more of a what's the word an affinity, a vibe,

621
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: a talent for sensing, for extrasensory perception in a few ways,

622
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: not like making things move or telling the future, but

623
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: just like a real deep sensitivity to especially the earth,

624
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 3: into animals. But she she felt that like that was,

625
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: you know, that this presence and my brother did helped

626
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: take care of us as kids and made us less

627
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: afraid and maybe protected us from these other spirits that

628
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: had that. When Anne and her partner helped cleanse the

629
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 3: house and purge the house after my mother moved out,

630
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 3: but before the new couple took it over, a lot

631
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 3: of that felt very dark, and a lot of it

632
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: was very intense. And you know, I always wonder how

633
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 3: much of that stuff impacted us as kids, because you understand,

634
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 3: my father, that house, it's separate from the farm that

635
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 3: like that. I grew that. It's been in our family

636
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 3: since the seventy forties. The mill Meadow had only been

637
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 3: my father moved in he was a little kid, so

638
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: he grew up there. I grew up there. But before that,

639
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 3: for a while, it was a guest house, which I

640
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 3: guess now you call it like a like a bed

641
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 3: and breakfast. So it was that for a while. And

642
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 3: I have a book somewhere which like the entire history

643
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 3: of the house, which was first the first the main

644
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: part of it was first built in the seventeen nineties,

645
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 3: so you know, who knows what kind of people passed

646
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 3: through that that building when it was the guest house.

647
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 3: You know, this is a key that I'm wearing around

648
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: my neck. I'm showing rows this key I have on

649
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: a chain around my neck, which is a key that

650
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: I took for Malmeta before we moved, which was a

651
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: key to one of the bedrooms left over from the

652
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 3: times of when it was like a bed and breakfast,

653
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: a guest house.

654
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:47,720
Speaker 1: WOA.

655
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: Now, when I was back there last week, there's another house,

656
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: this old farmhouse that my grandfather was born in, that

657
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: my brother is redoing up on our family farm, and

658
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: that would be an interesting place. It's they It looks

659
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: gorgeous now. It was kind of run down, but my

660
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 3: brother's do an amazing job of restoring it and renovating it.

661
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 3: And it's going to be the place where we go

662
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: and stay because there's too many of us just to

663
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 3: stay at my mom's new house, which is small. So

664
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: I'm curious, you know, I should when I go there

665
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: this summer, I should probably you know, a little ghost

666
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 3: check up there. Yeah, a lot of shit went down

667
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: on that farm, you know. And then across the road

668
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 3: where my cousins live now is the house that was

669
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 3: and my cousin David, we ran into him when I

670
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: was up there at this House. We call it the

671
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: White House, not to be confused with the President's home,

672
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 3: but it's another old white house. And that White House

673
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: was built, you know, in the like early eighteen hundreds.

674
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: But the big house across the road, which has been

675
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 3: in the family since the seventeen fifties, is that old.

676
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 3: Parts of it are that old. So there's all kinds

677
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: of fucking history there.

678
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 1: Or West Virginia is like hot bed for paranormal activity

679
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: of all sorts. I mean, of course the moth Man

680
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: is also West Virginia. There's multiple famous prisons that are

681
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: haunted there as well.

682
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and the State Mental Hospital in Weston that

683
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 3: was a big it's not it's not the State Mental

684
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 3: Hospital anymore, but like it was a big scary place.

685
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: I'm wait, is that the trans Alaghany Lunatic Asylum?

686
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: Yes? I think so? Is that if it's in weird

687
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 3: to the town, not not weird to Weston. The town

688
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: of Weston is growing up the shorthand for crazy house.

689
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 3: And it's sorry to use that term, which I know

690
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: isn't politically correct, but the looney bend short term back

691
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 3: when I was growing up was Weston. Mama would say

692
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 3: things like if that our habits to begin, Just take

693
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: me down to Weston, Just drop me off at Weston, Like,

694
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: take me to Weston was like, take me to the

695
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 3: lone Ebnd.

696
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy, Sam, That place is like one

697
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: of the very like sought after paranormal places. Oh, my

698
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: friend Katrina Widman from the TV show Portals to Hell

699
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: and other TV shows, she was doing an investigation there

700
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: and caught on camera. I believe this is when she

701
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: was on one of the other TV shows, maybe Paranormal Lockdown.

702
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 1: They captured and you can find a video on YouTube.

703
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: Like what she calls it, like a creeper or a

704
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: creepy crawler, like some kind of little creature that like

705
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 1: is something paranormal but completely unexplainable. Doesn't look like a human,

706
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 1: like really.

707
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: Creepy, getting shivers? Why did you put that in my brain?

708
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: Take you to Weston? You know What's another one I

709
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: was wondering about is I remember a couple months back,

710
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: you went to the Biltmore Hotel and you came back

711
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and you told me that you had a possible paranormal experience.

712
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 3: You email me that, and I hate to say so, Yeah,

713
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: I was having a little fling with a gentleman that

714
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 3: came out to visit me last summer.

715
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Well, Bill were was another famous paranormal location here in

716
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 1: Las Angels. People say that, you know, it's one of

717
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the fifty places that the Black Dahlia was last seen. Yeah,

718
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: and they say that they see her there among others.

719
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: I weirdly had never been in there, and so this

720
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: was in August when this guy came out and we

721
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: were we were just like it was a very you know,

722
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: fun sexy week where we say it a couple different places,

723
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 3: including the Builtmore for three nights, and I had never

724
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: been there, weirdly, because there's so much shooting of so

725
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 3: much filming that goes on there now and I just

726
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: never had been in there. And it's just a giant,

727
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: amazing place. It had just reopened in the summer. There

728
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: are very few people staying there. But for some reason

729
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 3: we were like to get from the lobby, which is

730
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 3: enormous to our rooms was like up and over and

731
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 3: down and around and again the rooms are really nice.

732
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 3: We got one that like looked inward to like, you know,

733
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: as you get to see the other rooms because it's

734
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: another one of those that shaped like an h or whatever.

735
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: And or a you know, square with empty insides like

736
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: my brain. But so we weren't looking out. But yeah,

737
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 3: I just remember there was like weird noises in the

738
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 3: night in the bathroom, but some of that was like

739
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: is it plumbing? Is it? And he and I were

740
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 3: busy doing things, so like I it was just a

741
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: you know, all the story of this story. So like

742
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: there was a lot going on anyway, and it was

743
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: a really intense time for me. But I can't think

744
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: of anything right off the top that happened other than

745
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 3: the weird sounds and everything.

746
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 1: I thought you told me. There was like a toilet

747
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: seat situation.

748
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right. Oh yeah, the toilet seat. That's right.

749
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: The toilet seat was up and down because he was

750
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: like did you put it down? Did you put it up?

751
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,399
Speaker 3: Because oh that's it would just fall down. You would

752
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 3: put it up because the we're two guys and so

753
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: they're both up because of peeing heard of it. So

754
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 3: it just it just like in the middle of the night,

755
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 3: would fall down without any apparent That's what it was,

756
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 3: without any apparent. You know. It wasn't like there was

757
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 3: anything else moved. It wasn't like there was a draft

758
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 3: or a door opening. It would just crash in the

759
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,439
Speaker 3: middle of the night, and like, why dna of another time?

760
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: That to me? I mean, I don't know exactly what

761
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: kind of toilet seat you're we're talking here, but most

762
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: of the time, if you have it all the way up,

763
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: it's not gonna.

764
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: Just fall just not randomly.

765
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, Like I've had a toilet seat that's like

766
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: kind of like a cheaper plastic apartment one where if

767
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: you don't put it up all the way like, it

768
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: could eventually fall back there.

769
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: This was not like that. This was these old school

770
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: like been there since god knows when, since the biltmore

771
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: is old. Like when you flush it, it's like talk

772
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: about the gates to hell. It's like, you know, like

773
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, this big old place. And I

774
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: just remember it didn't do it any other time, but

775
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: a couple of times in the middle of the night,

776
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: and it just do you know, And maybe some of

777
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: it's just in my mind, but it felt it felt

778
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 3: deliberate and like gotcha, you know, just like something about

779
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: when that shit happens. It just felt weird.

780
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm calling that a ghost story.

781
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: Okay, sure, I mean I remember the guy I was

782
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 3: with who were not really in communication anymore. He very

783
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 3: much felt like, Oh, that's fucked up ghost shit.

784
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm counting at it. I wanted to read a

785
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: story with you that somebody sent me. I will say,

786
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: this is kind of like today's episode is, you know,

787
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: a little bit looser than our usual. You know, we're

788
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: we're telling stories, not one hundred percent ghost ghost to

789
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: Jason's stories. Is kind of the theme of today ghost Adjason.

790
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: But somebody sent me this story and I was like,

791
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: this story is fucking terrifying. Oh great, but not necessarily ghosty.

792
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: Maybe a little ghosty. I don't know, Okay, but I

793
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: just want to tell you the story. This came from Diane,

794
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: a listener of the show. Shout out to Diane, Diane. Okay, so,

795
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 1: Diane writes, So, my ex husband used to work as

796
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: a skip tracer for Sears credit card. He had been

797
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: trying to contact a customer who had stopped paying his

798
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: bill to no avail. So he called that customer's neighbor

799
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: to try to get information about the customer. Okay, the

800
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: neighbor was practically hysterical when the ex called. She said

801
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: that her neighbor was crazy and really weird. He'd just

802
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: gotten into a fight or something and chased his boyfriend

803
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: naked down the street, and the cops didn't do anything

804
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: about it. She said that she kept trying to tell

805
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: the cops that there was something wrong with him, but

806
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: they ignored her plea to arrest him. The customer, Jeffrey Dahmer,

807
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,240
Speaker 1: the product he'd stop paying for on his credit card,

808
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: a refrigerator.

809
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,919
Speaker 3: Holy shit, Diane, Wow.

810
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not really a murder podcast here, but

811
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: that's a that's just a scary story.

812
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 3: Oh, I got the shivers. Do you want to hear

813
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: some EVPs, edie please?

814
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: Okay, it's done for EVP or ev please. You know

815
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: how this works. I go to YouTube, I find Electronic

816
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 1: Voice Phenomenal, and I'm gonna play you a couple and

817
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna guess what these ghosts are saying. What you hear?

818
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: What the people that are posting it believe you know?

819
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: Just tell me what you hear. This first one is

820
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: from Curtis Paranormal on YouTube and it's at the trans

821
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: Alleghany Luna tic Us. Oh and that's in western West Virginia.

822
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: Does it say western?

823
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: It does? Yeah?

824
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 3: Okay, good? It is the one I'm thinking of.

825
00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: So, what does this say? It's a whispery.

826
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 3: I just heard.

827
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: That sounds like when they put that like vacuum thing

828
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: in your mouth of the dentist. Yeah, okay, let me

829
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 1: try again.

830
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: Do it again, Do it again, Do it again.

831
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's like almost long.

832
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 3: It's like a two part dancing. I thought I heard

833
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 3: I heard word dance.

834
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: You heard dancing? Yeah, I heard that too. What if

835
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: it's what if it's Ted.

836
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 3: Dancing Dansen because Manson, you know, grew up in West

837
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 3: Virginia and he was a jail there.

838
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: Okay, here's some options. Is it a don't say anything,

839
00:45:51,840 --> 00:46:01,800
Speaker 1: b beyonces everything? Okay, see you don't say or Dosaki's

840
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: drink responsibly? What happened to the Dosakis guy? I was

841
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: just thinking about him? Most interesting man of the world.

842
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: Is that who that was?

843
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: Yes? Maybe he died, Okay, I don't know. It was

844
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: a fictional character.

845
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,479
Speaker 1: All right, here's here, I'll play it again.

846
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 3: Okay, but I definitely don't say anything.

847
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 1: I think it's don't say anything.

848
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, yeah, Oh that was creepy.

849
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: That's really here's one.

850
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: That's one of the ones I hear that sounds more

851
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 3: like a human voice than a lot of them i've heard.

852
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: I know this one is from COO t. N Paranormal.

853
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: It's at the Moundsville Penitentiary.

854
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's Moundsville. Yeah, in the northern part of

855
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 3: the state.

856
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly in West Virginia.

857
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: I've seen that. From the outside. It is grim and

858
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, so Industrial Revolution Stone American monolith, like it's

859
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 3: so creepy and scary.

860
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: Well it's also haunted. So uh, tell me what this

861
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: one you think says? Okay, this one like really fades

862
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: low and it's like kind of quiet. It's a hard one,

863
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: but we're gonna try again.

864
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 3: I heard Dennis vacuum.

865
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: I you're like, down, I didn't hear that. Well, I'll

866
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 1: give you some options. I'll put one of these in

867
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: your ear and see what you think. Is it A.

868
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: I swallowed it, B, I swear. C let's talk, No, sorry.

869
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Let's.

870
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: Let's walk. Or d less qualk. You know, like when

871
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: they give you the gualk.

872
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, I wonder which one Rod's made up?

873
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: I can't tell.

874
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I made up three of them, so okay, which

875
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:14,240
Speaker 1: one is the real one? I just heard is let's walk.

876
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 1: I can kind of hear it.

877
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: I think maybe just coming through your thing into my

878
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 3: ears is the problem.

879
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: Tell me now, I know we're still in the studio. Okay,

880
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: let's walk.

881
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: I didn't hear it, but I trust you.

882
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: I trust you, ev polease a little. All right, let's

883
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: do one more thing. I like to just list off

884
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: a bunch of unexplained phenomenal and I just want to

885
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,920
Speaker 1: kind of rapid fire. Have you tell me thoughts, you know, comments,

886
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: what comes up for you? What do you believe in it?

887
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: You know, any of that stuff. And maybe this will

888
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: lead to something else. It doesn't have to necessarily be

889
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: rapid fire. All right, here we go, Bigfoot, what do

890
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: you think?

891
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 3: No, I think it's I think it's been debunked enough

892
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 3: that it's not. I think we I just think the

893
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 3: deforestation and then like the I just because the one

894
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 3: in the suit that was already been proven that that

895
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 3: was made up. And I don't have hopes about him

896
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: or the luckiest monster they'll believe me. I want to believe.

897
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: But what it raised on Bigfoot.

898
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 1: But them being paranormal, like what if they have the

899
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: ability to vanish?

900
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 3: Well, that's true, I never thought of the cryptos there

901
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 3: always being also a supernatural phenomenon.

902
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, you know what I'm saying. Okay, what

903
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 1: about psychics?

904
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I.

905
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 1: Don't know if we in this because you and I

906
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: have we've.

907
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 3: You've sent me some of the worst psychics I've ever experienced,

908
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 3: and I've had a slew of psychic greetings and almost

909
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 3: nothing has been accurate except for some past life stuff

910
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: where I don't know and I can do stand up

911
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 3: a psychics. I still believe that there are people out

912
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: there who have the ability, and it's one of those

913
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 3: things where you know some people have you know they're

914
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 3: going to have you for an hour, five four minutes

915
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 3: is accurate, and the rest is kind of them making

916
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: up and being a little grifty about it.

917
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 1: Well, and that's the thing with psychics is like sometimes

918
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: they're more accurate for you, and like I think that

919
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: maybe the connection can be stronger with other people. It's

920
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: just like almost like your internet or something. I don't

921
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: know sometimes that the connection.

922
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 3: I had a friend. I have a friend who you know,

923
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 3: who is someone who can afford to go to the latest,

924
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 3: most expensive one, and this person went to one and

925
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 3: it was all over the phone or maybe zoom because no, no,

926
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 3: I think it was the phone, and this person, the

927
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:49,920
Speaker 3: psychic didn't know who this person was, even though this

928
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 3: is a person who is in the land of famous,

929
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:55,240
Speaker 3: but they so I think it was on the phone.

930
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 3: It was on the phone and fake name, fake name,

931
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 3: so couldn't google. And it was a mind like, really

932
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: crazy what this person just knew about their life in

933
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: terms of the family, the background of this, and that

934
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 3: you feel this because of that. That was all accurate,

935
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 3: but it was all to say, you know, what does

936
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 3: that do? Really? It just confirms this person knows this

937
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 3: stuff about you. But like I, what it doesn't do

938
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: necessarily is say, here's what's going to happen in a month,

939
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: here's you know. No, when I think anyone legit, because

940
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 3: a free will is anyone LEGiT's not going to say

941
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,600
Speaker 3: you're going to meet that man, that special person woman

942
00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 3: man on you know, July twenty seventh, twenty twenty one,

943
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: you know, and it's not in my price range, no exactly.

944
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: But you know what's funny is I actually on Patreon,

945
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: I did a video like a month or so ago

946
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,319
Speaker 1: where already things in it have gone wrong, all right,

947
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: some more unexplained phenomena. Are crocs back.

948
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: That I I hate to tell you, yes, And but

949
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 3: also for some people I found out for they've never

950
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: went away. I know some guys in their twenties, a

951
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 3: guy or two in their twenties who have been wearing

952
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 3: them since there were kids, and they've never let them go.

953
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

954
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 3: And I saw this pair because I was showing my

955
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 3: friend I'm talking about one of them. I was like, look,

956
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 3: put on my crocs that used been gardening. I've had

957
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: these since two thousand and five. Because those those boogers

958
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 3: do not give up. They are You have to melt them.

959
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: You would have to walk through a combine thrusher and

960
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 3: get your feet hacked up in them to destroy them.

961
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 1: What about demonic possession? Is that right?

962
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 3: They are also back. They're back better than ever, and

963
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 3: they're not going anywhere. What about demonic possessions? I listened

964
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 3: to a really good podcast called You're Wrong About That

965
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 3: I Love, and they did a deep dive on demonic

966
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,759
Speaker 3: possessions and how much of that is is mental illness

967
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: in cultures and places that don't that would not have

968
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: whatever take someone to a psychiatrist or a counselor to

969
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 3: be like, oh, that's schizophrenia, that's you know, manic behavior.

970
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 3: There might be drugs involved that people are aren't saying,

971
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 3: you know, like.

972
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:13,000
Speaker 1: When especially in past generations, you know, when there really

973
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 1: was some conversations.

974
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 3: Completely all those different things. So I learned a whole

975
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 3: and that was just recently I listened to it. So

976
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: I learned a whole lot about that and about how

977
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: the Catholic Church dealt with it, and like and there are,

978
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 3: like anything, a couple of cases where you're like, wow,

979
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 3: this seems like something was really up. I don't know what, but.

980
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 1: And that's what we're here to talk about. I mean,

981
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: that's the stuff that keeps this whole party going.

982
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: You know, like think of a church, think of a

983
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 3: like a very like they're called like the charismatic churches

984
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,439
Speaker 3: where people speak at tongues and dance around and sing

985
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 3: and shout and get so worked up into a tizzy,

986
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: into a frenzy, a legit frenzy because of their own issues,

987
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 3: or just the crowd that the what's it called the

988
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,879
Speaker 3: mass hysteria, the mob sort of thing. And if it's

989
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 3: just it's like one person, you know, I know, I

990
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 3: can work myself up into it being a you know,

991
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: just ranting and raving and screaming if I wanted to, Like,

992
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 3: I am definitely capable of that. I don't have that

993
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 3: thing called racing thoughts where you like you can't. I

994
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 3: can control my thoughts. I can stop and be like,

995
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 3: pull your shit together if I'm sober. But some people

996
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 3: can't because they're not. Their brain chemistry doesn't work that way, so,

997
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 3: you know, and a lot of it was kind of like,

998
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 3: you know, who's getting the attention and is that what

999
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 3: this is all about? But then there are some cases

1000
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 3: where you know, truly, let the f what happened? And unexplained?

1001
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: Okay, last unexplained phenomena. Why am I not famous?

1002
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 3: I almost said a mean, really good joke, but I

1003
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 3: didn't say it. First of all, you are. Second of all,

1004
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 3: you're like fourteen years old, so cool it. You have

1005
00:54:55,280 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 3: to really bucking put that work in. Honey, am I

1006
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 3: not famous? I'm five hundred years old. I've been here

1007
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: since seventeen ninety three. You tell me.

1008
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just trying to figure that one out. Sam.

1009
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: That's about it for now. Thanks for doing this again.

1010
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: You're well, we need to go on more ghost adventures

1011
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: when it's time.

1012
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 3: To plot out again. I went to the Madonna and

1013
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, and like, we didn't do

1014
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 3: any ghost hunting, me and my gentleman friend. But like, yeah,

1015
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:35,720
Speaker 3: you and I have to go someplace and not stay

1016
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 3: the night and do some ghost hunting. I mean, I

1017
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 3: don't want to be in the place like that time

1018
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: you were that place and you left the middle of

1019
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,359
Speaker 3: the night. I'm not up for that. I'm not going

1020
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 3: to leave the room.

1021
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to do that over again. The

1022
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: only reason I'm the only way I'll do that is

1023
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: if the person I'm with will stay up all night.

1024
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 3: No, I won't do that either an eight hours. If

1025
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 3: I don't have eight hours, i'd have real bastard.

1026
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: Tell everyone you know where to find you and everything.

1027
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: Oh I'm You can find on Instagram at the Sampancake

1028
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: thg Sampancake on Twitter at Jasampancake. You can follow me

1029
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: on Facebook and my podcast is called Sampancake Presents the

1030
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 3: Monday Afternoon Movie and it's about supernatural, ghosty horror things.

1031
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 3: I cover me and a friend, a hilarious friend. Ros

1032
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 3: has done it twice sit down and talk about view separately,

1033
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 3: and then get together and talk about a TV horror

1034
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: movie from the late sixties, seventies and eighties, and they're

1035
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,439
Speaker 3: usually really campy and trashy and hilarious and good bad,

1036
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 3: and we just talk about that. And you can find

1037
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 3: that wherever pods are cast.

1038
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: So fun. Well, thanks for doing this, Thank you for

1039
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 1: having me. Thank you to Sam. Go to patreon dot

1040
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1041
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:54,640
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1043
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1044
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Speaker 1: There's also a page. You can like the page if

1045
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1046
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1047
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1048
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Speaker 1: dot com, so Zillos, Instagram, Roz Hernandez, and oh, I

1050
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: should tell you who's going to be on next week.

1051
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: I worked it out and I talked to Butch Patrick,

1052
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: who famously played Eddie Munster on The Monsters and lived

1053
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: in a haunted house, so look out for that next week.

1054
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think that's I think that's it for now.

1055
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: So I love you all, both living and dead. But

1056
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't haunt me.

1057
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Speaker 1: Came back.

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