Speaker 1: You and this motherfucker forst gup.
Speaker 2: Nike had always told me, I feel like you got
Speaker 2: some fishing tackles, like talk to the back of your ship.
Speaker 1: He's like a football cup. You're the real coach. Problem.
Speaker 3: Are are fisherman? This is a real question. Are fisherman athletes?
Speaker 1: No, it's NASCAR, Yeah, I do that.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna expect none of them. I went to
Speaker 2: a NASCAR race. It's hard. Bro.
Speaker 1: You know they got a pee in a suit. That's wow.
Speaker 2: Like now they be racing so long that they can't
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Bro, about where the pe?
Speaker 3: No fisherman I.
Speaker 1: Poker athletes. We gotta have a line right because ESPNB.
Speaker 3: Like poker is not an athletic. You're not.
Speaker 2: It's not no, that's not no, that's not a physical
Speaker 2: I feel like respecting fisherman because that is that's not
Speaker 2: easy fishing.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not easy.
Speaker 2: Like y'all was disrespected off, I didn't disrespect said Tiger.
Speaker 2: Y'all was in the comments talking crazy about Tiger. Bro,
Speaker 2: y'all see your favorite basketball players get on that golf course.
Speaker 2: It's not sweet.
Speaker 1: It's not what you mean. Steph Curry looks like a
Speaker 1: great golfer. He can do everything.
Speaker 3: So we can put golfing up there with bowling.
Speaker 2: Oh, WHOA, don't disrespect bowling. Bowling is different, Bro. Golfing
Speaker 2: is harder than bowling, for sure.
Speaker 3: It's not even closed.
Speaker 1: Tennis is hard and bro, Golfing is harder. Bowling is hard, Bro.
Speaker 1: Them dudes that bowl are cold.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: We're not taking away from them for dinner.
Speaker 2: First, my my dad golf, so it doesn't take much anyway.
Speaker 2: Got to catch, he got turf toe, he got permanent
Speaker 2: turn still golf.
Speaker 3: You ruined the linears the other episode.
Speaker 2: And on that note, we're back another episode of Club
Speaker 2: five twenty podcasts. I'm the host. My name is DJ Wells.
Speaker 2: We got a guest to my left. We gonna introduce
Speaker 2: him last to my far left, resident chef Bishop Greenlea,
Speaker 2: my boy be here.
Speaker 1: How you what? Hello?
Speaker 3: And the people been on your ass too about the
Speaker 3: gray leaf been calling me Bishop be here lately. I
Speaker 3: appreciate that. Your shame the devil. What's up, guys, let's row.
Speaker 2: What's up guys, broncos Country, I know them, broncos Man.
Speaker 2: Want to Russell Wilson ass every time he said in
Speaker 2: the interview that was about three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna bounce back, bounce back down. But to
Speaker 1: my right, my boy, young knock, young tea. How you living,
Speaker 1: my guy?
Speaker 2: I'm good man. These was really at the door. I
Speaker 2: was hooping outside of O Ryan So for what come on?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 2: Hey man, my boy, my boy, don't hoop no more. Man,
Speaker 2: We're go on YouTube right with him? Okay, shout out
Speaker 2: to oh the real oh not made Back to my left,
Speaker 2: we had a special guests in the building, Indiana Legend,
Speaker 2: every fucking individual war possible fact, high school in college. Man,
Speaker 2: if you don't know what this is, we got Kyle
Speaker 2: got east Side. Oh, how you feeling, man, appreciate you
Speaker 2: pulling up the five twenty.
Speaker 1: My shore man.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me for shure. Hey, that's crazy. Before
Speaker 2: we get to the episode. You really got a mister
Speaker 2: basketball and then you got the MP in college. Which
Speaker 2: one of them you feel more like happy about? Like
Speaker 2: which one of it was, like I did this shit?
Speaker 1: Uh for me?
Speaker 4: Probably mister basketball just because like you was talking about earlier,
Speaker 4: Jeff like manifesting, Like when I was young, I used
Speaker 4: to go to his games. Greg Golden do testament fora
Speaker 4: vera Deshaun Thomas. Like I was traveling around watching these dudes,
Speaker 4: and like I knew I wanted to be like the
Speaker 4: best in the state. And so from your really young age,
Speaker 4: like five, I was like, I want to win that.
Speaker 4: And then it kind of disappeared for a while. I
Speaker 4: liked football and all this stuff. But then when I
Speaker 4: got back to high school, it's like, yeah, I want
Speaker 4: to miss basketball. So doing that for in India, you know,
Speaker 4: it means it does mean more here. Not to be cliche,
Speaker 4: but it just does. And so me winning that meant
Speaker 4: the most Indiana boys who better than everybody.
Speaker 2: I'll put money up on it before we get into
Speaker 2: the episode, though, you know what I'm saying, just what
Speaker 2: you what you're rocking today? We got the garment shout
Speaker 2: out to y'all, send the garments in the mail.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Man, my god, we got that.
Speaker 2: Dance.
Speaker 3: Damn God, damn radio.
Speaker 2: He's not what hey, hey, I ain't like Jay and
Speaker 2: it's gonna take me a minute.
Speaker 1: I gotta right my right hard. No, we ain't blaking
Speaker 1: that out dance.
Speaker 2: Shout Hey, I got wild Nation. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: be here with you.
Speaker 1: They gave me.
Speaker 3: Shout out to my boys, got ghetto schouch, be quiet,
Speaker 3: shout out to my boys over in ghettos. College Baby,
Speaker 3: We rocking with y'all. Man, appreciate y'all for the march.
Speaker 3: Please send more. We will be rocking y'all. Preer on
Speaker 3: future episode.
Speaker 2: Out gay that was that was good boy. He might
Speaker 2: wouldn't do all the ass because I was day this mother. Yeah,
Speaker 2: my fun up. But it's comfortable anyway. We're not sweet
Speaker 2: the ball back and jeff that was official Jeffery team. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I like, guess what it's comfortable and who got the
Speaker 2: better Pro Bowl this one or you in the first one?
Speaker 2: Three A because that was crazy. It was crazy.
Speaker 3: He's shouting to my people already. Three we got the
Speaker 3: new merche too. Bro, I'm a rocket. Uh here. In
Speaker 3: future episodes, for.
Speaker 2: Sure, we rock with y'all. We need to evaluate themselves.
Speaker 2: I'll be saying, y'all been sending them on two x
Speaker 2: tall teams like going to the hospital, and.
Speaker 3: I meant like two x ls and one for him
Speaker 3: for me, But nah, I'm a rocket. Damn bro, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna have you know what I mean. The do the
Speaker 3: alteration for me.
Speaker 2: So whatever, then that means I wonderful guess we have here.
Speaker 1: It was here over Man, We're gonna get to it.
Speaker 1: I gotta.
Speaker 2: I'm starting off the rip with a hard question for you.
Speaker 2: Obviously we're gonna get to how you got there. But
Speaker 2: you were part of history. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: The NCAA on the downside of it. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, y'all was going crazy that year. You was
Speaker 2: the one seed. You know what I'm saying, y'all played
Speaker 2: the sixteen seed. Fortunately you got upset. Like I know,
Speaker 2: we talked all the time about like the background of basketball,
Speaker 2: like how mentally taxing it is, Like how like anxious
Speaker 2: that shit is? Like how was that for you to
Speaker 2: like deal with that particular moment. I know you've talked
Speaker 2: about it before, but like just from your mindset, like
Speaker 2: how did you have to handle that shit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It was.
Speaker 4: It was tough after because like and again I've talked
Speaker 4: about it, but like.
Speaker 1: Right as soon as we lost, obviously all the.
Speaker 4: Emotions I'm crying and shit, like and coach I don't
Speaker 4: even remember what coach after the game, and immediately like
Speaker 4: we didn't have a chance to catch our breath. And like,
Speaker 4: the we had to get police escorts from our bus
Speaker 4: to our rooms because there was death threats from like
Speaker 4: gamblers that lost so much money and ship and they
Speaker 4: were all standing outside like screaming at us and stuff,
Speaker 4: and so like we just didn't didn't feel like human
Speaker 4: at that at that point.
Speaker 1: So that was like crazy to go through.
Speaker 4: And like, but even before the game, coach Bennett like
Speaker 4: he would not let us overlook somebody. Like if you
Speaker 4: ever heard him talk, he is the most humble dude ever,
Speaker 4: So he wasn't gonna let us overlook them. But man,
Speaker 4: that game wasn't even close, Like it wasn't like that
Speaker 4: they smacked us by twenty.
Speaker 1: I think people forget that far. Like we loved about twenty.
Speaker 1: It was like seventy to fifty or something like that. Man, bro.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because it happened again this year.
Speaker 2: I think it's gonna probably happen a little bit more
Speaker 2: of the way that college basketball's kind of changed, and
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that a little bit later. But for
Speaker 2: that to be the history first time that the sixteen
Speaker 2: seed upset of one seede, for like you said, that
Speaker 2: whole entire like, like you said, they headed it to y'all.
Speaker 2: Y'all had to deal with the backlash for that ship,
Speaker 2: and I feel like that wasn't fair. But that's some
Speaker 2: crazy shit.
Speaker 3: To do with that, because shit, I thought col Now,
Speaker 3: I thought, you bet on the game. Shit, they deserve
Speaker 3: to get asked. I was so goddamn man, I wasn't
Speaker 3: donna send no death thress. That's the pocket.
Speaker 1: That's what the two of us, bro, that's you know what.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it because I'm not the only one that
Speaker 2: watched in the first round, I'm like, yeah, and they
Speaker 2: was way worse than us.
Speaker 1: At least we lost to a five seed.
Speaker 4: They were technically the last ranked team in the tournament.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Okay, I'll keep it a being. What really happened, bro?
Speaker 1: What you think?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 4: So, I mean, we'll get it. We obviously won. The
Speaker 4: next year, we started switching one through five. We were
Speaker 4: more athletic the following year, and uh and coach Bennett
Speaker 4: and he finally like he kind of he was able
Speaker 4: to adapt the second year. I think the first year
Speaker 4: one we just kept hedging ball screens and it wasn't working.
Speaker 4: They had this little guard just getting around, getting around. Obviously,
Speaker 4: they had nothing to lose, so they were just hitting
Speaker 4: they normally wouldn't hit. On top of that, and then
Speaker 4: for me, man, I feel like by first meeting time out,
Speaker 4: I knew we were gonna lose them there, damn, because
Speaker 4: you know, you know how it is like when you're playing,
Speaker 4: you like you just know.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: It was damn their home game for them, Like they
Speaker 4: showed out and everyone who was there to watch other
Speaker 4: teams start rooting for them, and we're down, like it
Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, ten to six, so we
Speaker 4: weren't even getting it. Like ten to six, we call
Speaker 4: time out and I'm like, damn, we're gonna lose it.
Speaker 4: Like that early in the game.
Speaker 1: I swear it was crazy. That's how it was.
Speaker 2: When we played Cleveland State, they start hitting backboard threes.
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't shoot hitting off the backboard from
Speaker 2: the top of the key, you know, you can't shoot.
Speaker 2: Norris Cole here and runners, I'm like, he ain't even
Speaker 2: have his box all the way right yet.
Speaker 1: I was hot about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, his box was still leaning, you know, Yeah, it
Speaker 2: wasn't even right yet, so you know, he wasn't ready.
Speaker 1: But ready Norris.
Speaker 2: Now, we're gonna talk about his look back later, but you, sir,
Speaker 2: I still gotta beef for y'all. Fuck y'all and fuck
Speaker 2: that Louisville team. That's my favorite team. Y'all supposed to
Speaker 2: meet in Eddie, Napolis sweet sixteen and look like y'all
Speaker 2: ruined my fucking birthday. Yeah, I had, I had wrote
Speaker 2: that on my calendar, like, oh, we're gonna beat Louisville Indianapolis.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be lit. I'm going number five in the draft.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be lit. And none of that happened. I
Speaker 2: ain't manifest that one being.
Speaker 3: I'm like that.
Speaker 1: One.
Speaker 2: I definitely the story you aln't ready for that. He
Speaker 2: was your beat for Louile so bad. I know Rick
Speaker 2: got the tires of Pops and Ship, but like, what
Speaker 2: was you was up with them?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Man, I'm mad at Louisville because man, I was getting recruited.
Speaker 2: Rick Potino called me, and you know, my dad went
Speaker 2: there play for Boston and Rick Patino was a head coach.
Speaker 1: That was his first coaching job.
Speaker 2: So I was like, my dad always talked about Rick Potino,
Speaker 2: So I was like, dang, it'd be cool to get
Speaker 2: an offer from there and try to go to Louisville
Speaker 2: because my dad had ties with Rick. So Rick Potino
Speaker 2: finally called me my dad ear to the ear, grinning
Speaker 2: like yeah, this is the one we've been waiting on.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, food me for Boston College. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm calling regards for al Skinner. I was so mad.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was like, like, why you ain't recruit me?
Speaker 1: He was like, well, I got a guard named Edgar Sosa.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't disrespect Edgar Sosa. He like, he's
Speaker 2: from New York. He's the truth. I couldn't wait to
Speaker 2: play them. He was so weak to me, but shout
Speaker 2: out to Edgar Man. But because he had me feeling
Speaker 2: away because Patino was gassing so much but respect.
Speaker 1: That's funny as hell.
Speaker 2: I was, so, we know you went to Virginia, man,
Speaker 2: how did you get to Virginia? What other schools was
Speaker 2: in the play before you made that commitment? Yeah, so
Speaker 2: Virginia's actually last school to offer me, which usually don't
Speaker 2: happen that way. Nless, It's like Duker Kentucky or something
Speaker 2: like that. So they came late in the I mean
Speaker 2: I committed when I was a junior, so I really
Speaker 2: want to go to Michigan.
Speaker 1: I really liked it there a lot.
Speaker 4: Coach Bennett just came a little harder than be Line did.
Speaker 4: And then I want to go to IU my whole
Speaker 4: life ship.
Speaker 2: But I just you would have made the league, Kyle.
Speaker 2: You to drop twenty this be hard with a little
Speaker 2: five and lost it all.
Speaker 4: I told you, like I was manifesting like the high
Speaker 4: school basketball right in the and like I had a
Speaker 4: lot of family go to IU. I had like a
Speaker 4: great uncle on the board of trustees. Like we're talking
Speaker 4: like their are you fans everybody? And wearing a candy
Speaker 4: striped pants like that meant something to me, And so
Speaker 4: I wanted to go there.
Speaker 1: But man, me and Tom Creane just didn't really see
Speaker 1: out the eye.
Speaker 4: We uh, we didn't hit it off the same way
Speaker 4: as some of the other coaches.
Speaker 1: So I knew pretty early smoked it. Man. Yeah, Indiana schools, Man,
Speaker 1: we're time cream coaching. Now.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad bro that you left. Goddamn idiot. I'm
Speaker 3: an advocate for that leave. What was the biggest reason
Speaker 3: why you went to Virginia though they.
Speaker 4: Were starting to they were starting to uh, really pick
Speaker 4: up momentum when they had Justin Anderson, Brockden, Anthony Gill
Speaker 4: in the league now like they Mike.
Speaker 1: Scott had left a little bit before then.
Speaker 4: But like Mike Scott, he changed like he coach Ben
Speaker 4: changed the culture over there.
Speaker 1: And I was a dude.
Speaker 4: I always wanted to make sure I went on a
Speaker 4: visit before I committed, and I always wanted to be
Speaker 4: the last, Like I wanted to commit on signing day
Speaker 4: in April or whatever, like the last make sure.
Speaker 1: I was making the right choice.
Speaker 4: I got to Virginia and you know, you got that
Speaker 4: feeling your stomach they always talk about. It was like
Speaker 4: I'm gonna commit on and I was like, all right,
Speaker 4: let me go home and sleep on it. Slept on
Speaker 4: it felt it sounds like it was. It was either
Speaker 4: a good balance for me like they was talking earlier,
Speaker 4: it's not really. They think they're a party school, like
Speaker 4: they get after it the dark. The spring is better.
Speaker 4: Darty's is better than than the party.
Speaker 3: Sure, you probably didn't get it. He got game recruitment trip.
Speaker 2: And you know it's crazy shot to Rick Fox that
Speaker 2: was the elite assist on Lows and Keys for sure
Speaker 2: got to respect it. This thing I wish about would
Speaker 2: have did that for me, your white recruit with man,
Speaker 2: they gave me an xbox probably say that, yeah that's
Speaker 2: too late now.
Speaker 1: Without you all right?
Speaker 2: When I got round you, yeah good gas money.
Speaker 1: Tradition. Oh my god, cow man.
Speaker 2: Obviously you end up going to Virginia doing your thing.
Speaker 2: You had a real interesting situation because you came right
Speaker 2: right at the end before they really started with the
Speaker 2: n I L deals. How do you feel about that, man,
Speaker 2: because you was going crazy. They was about to give
Speaker 2: you taller hands bro money if you was there for.
Speaker 4: Sure, Like I missed it by years, So they introduced
Speaker 4: it the yeah I left and it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't like for real.
Speaker 4: It's like a little like pocket change or whatever. Then
Speaker 4: the next year is when it really hit and I'm
Speaker 4: sitting here on the two way.
Speaker 1: Least how much you think you would have got from
Speaker 1: Virginia like being there, I'm not even gassing.
Speaker 4: At least a million at least easy for at least
Speaker 4: because me Ty and D like at least a million.
Speaker 4: You put a chip up, you put a banner up
Speaker 4: in Virginia. They may have took it after we lost
Speaker 4: the NBC, but then they would have given.
Speaker 1: It right back. Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: If they gave you the n I y'all as to
Speaker 2: a sixteen y'all walking camaral keys, that's funked up. So
Speaker 2: you can't do that. If it's mine as mine, that's
Speaker 2: what y'all talk about me. Any given, this school is
Speaker 2: gonna be on that soon.
Speaker 3: Bro, it's funny to say, Bro, they're not gonna be
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 2: They are eventually, they're gonna be like, I need that
Speaker 2: back because you're not doing what you see blue Chips.
Speaker 1: I've been like already spent it.
Speaker 2: Matter in fact, you don't know what's crazy. When you
Speaker 2: was in high school, I had never seen you play.
Speaker 2: I didn't know who you were, but y'all heard word
Speaker 2: of mouth about you, like, yeah, Kyle got cold over
Speaker 2: there at l C. So for people that don't know,
Speaker 2: l C is on the east side of Indianapolis, and
Speaker 2: that's kind of like.
Speaker 1: The athletes are usually black.
Speaker 2: Let's just say that, like the basketball team usually black, right,
Speaker 2: So they like, how got cold? So I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: looking for this black dude I type of moment on
Speaker 2: YouTube and it's you. I'm like, hold on here, go
Speaker 2: to LC like hell no, And then I seen your swagger.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah Kelly.
Speaker 1: Yeah he hoop, yeah, he hoop hoop.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Did you always have that confidence though?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it hit by middle school. So I
Speaker 4: for those who don't know, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Even shoot into a high school. Now that's crazy. I
Speaker 1: used to shoot.
Speaker 2: I was a slasher, like like Reggie Man, like this
Speaker 2: Reggie went in, I ain't going okay, And I was
Speaker 2: like a slasher, like throwing no look passes and you
Speaker 2: know off the triple.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that type of thing. And then high school I
Speaker 4: stopped growing, you know, six one six on a good day,
Speaker 4: buck fifty five in high school and so I had
Speaker 4: to really get to work on my jumper.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I always had that confidence.
Speaker 4: Just I don't even know where it comes from, to
Speaker 4: be honest, Like, I just like whenever I was on
Speaker 4: the ultra competitive and so I didn't like losing. I
Speaker 4: didn't like anybody showing me up, and so I was
Speaker 4: like I just put in the work.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where it comes from.
Speaker 3: Was it was tough.
Speaker 1: He was killed you crazy.
Speaker 2: I was hot because I had an a team at
Speaker 2: that time, but he was playing on the Adidas circuit
Speaker 2: and I had a Adidas team and I remember I
Speaker 2: was like, why we don't got him?
Speaker 3: You played with the ale he was he was Indiana.
Speaker 2: I was like, whow we don't got him, and they
Speaker 2: was just like, we don't know hit want sure thought
Speaker 2: about it though, look at our recruit.
Speaker 1: Who was let's put a finger out, who up recruit
Speaker 1: doing bill.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who it was, but I just remember
Speaker 2: we had a table the circuit at that time, and
Speaker 2: I was just wondering, like, what's up while we.
Speaker 1: Don't got him? Like yeah, here killing But.
Speaker 2: Obviously he was in Virginia going crazy the A c
Speaker 2: C you played in the real Like who was the
Speaker 2: hardest person I had to go against?
Speaker 1: I mean Jason Tatum.
Speaker 4: That was because so Virginia is obviously known for for
Speaker 4: defense as well, and like I never seen until I
Speaker 4: got to NB, I never saw somebody get buckets with
Speaker 4: great defense, like Isa Wilkins was the A c C
Speaker 4: Defense Player of the Year and he was strapping him.
Speaker 4: But he wasn't because that's crazy, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Like that it was incredible, know.
Speaker 1: What you mean? That's crazy strapping him as well? We
Speaker 1: got to clean up. That's why you got trapping him?
Speaker 3: Was like you actually strapped him.
Speaker 1: That's oh my god. I can't let nothing.
Speaker 2: Because I want to hear this story. Let me get
Speaker 2: that's crazy, b I.
Speaker 4: He's playing great defense, great dese and it didn't matter.
Speaker 4: He was still getting to it and to him and
Speaker 4: then Zion my junior year.
Speaker 2: Oh, they was a commercial, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh that's
Speaker 2: when he blocked the hunt shot in the corner.
Speaker 1: He's jumping the paper, what the fuck?
Speaker 4: And that Lebron was there he yeah, rondoing them and
Speaker 4: they was sitting right on the baseline.
Speaker 1: Where was that game at.
Speaker 4: They're the only team to beat beat the same year,
Speaker 4: maybe just twice.
Speaker 2: As a Lobo fan, I fucking hated y'all because y'all
Speaker 2: was gonna always beat everybody and score like sixty five points.
Speaker 1: You was gonna have twenty five.
Speaker 2: Y'are gonna play some crazy ass defense, and the team
Speaker 2: is gonna have forty two.
Speaker 1: I hated when y'all was cold.
Speaker 4: That's why. But junior year, we switched it up. We
Speaker 4: finally started scoring a little more. Defense was still there, obviously,
Speaker 4: but he finally like we we got the freedom that
Speaker 4: he talked about when he.
Speaker 1: Was recruiting your junior year, you and d Hunt. I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, y'all was called. Yeah. I was like,
Speaker 1: they got it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I knew y'all was gonna win that year. I bet
Speaker 1: my money with y'all that year.
Speaker 2: We got you right, Yeah, got I was especially I
Speaker 2: ain't gonna yeah, I was gonna win.
Speaker 1: But I knew that was gonna like that half.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, no, I just I knew y'all was
Speaker 3: going to be a really good team though, because y'all gotta.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I thought for sure. I didn't think
Speaker 2: Duke was gonna win. I thought they had too many people.
Speaker 2: I might eventually somebody gonna get mad, and like in
Speaker 2: the tournament start gunning.
Speaker 1: R J. Beard did what I thought he would.
Speaker 4: Do, and we did think we were gonna play them
Speaker 4: tho because there was on the other side, Yeah in
Speaker 4: Michigan State and yeah.
Speaker 1: But I knew r J.
Speaker 2: Barr to do what I thought shout but he did
Speaker 2: put thirty shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, draft stock Yeah. Respect. So talk at the game,
Speaker 1: so for you, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: To lose, to lose the first round, to come back
Speaker 2: the next year playing the national championship. How was that
Speaker 2: final run for y'all, because like that final four is
Speaker 2: probably crazy, especially for you because you was going to off.
Speaker 2: You was talking ship the free throw line. Yeah, you've
Speaker 2: seen that picture turn up historic moment. That's easily I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna have that. I just bought a house here India.
Speaker 4: I'm about to put that in the man k for sure,
Speaker 4: as should. He was sitting like this sound was gonna
Speaker 4: choke at the free throw line.
Speaker 1: And then and then he's good. He's tapping in the next.
Speaker 4: After I hit, After we're celebrating, he's like sitting on
Speaker 4: the ground like I usually don't talk unless you start
Speaker 4: talking to me.
Speaker 1: And then I'll get after that Indiana ship right there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, I mean the weight off my shoulders
Speaker 4: or our shoulders after we want it all was?
Speaker 1: How was that party going back to Virginia. It was that.
Speaker 4: So we're in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: We just don't don't worry about it's nothing good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we just we just hung out with the family. Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: They give you nothing. I played, there's nothing.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying. I'm like Ship, he got his Rick Fox.
Speaker 2: Gave it couldn't ain't no motion out there. The funniest thing.
Speaker 2: Somebody said, Hey, when you see this NBA logo, what
Speaker 2: does remind you of? And it was a Minnesota terrible
Speaker 2: logo and somebody two jes I hate them to.
Speaker 3: Keep no, but what did y'all do?
Speaker 1: Bro?
Speaker 3: Did y'all really celebrate? Did y'all go crazy with the
Speaker 3: champagne pause?
Speaker 2: But that's not even am Okay, I'm gonna keep it being.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep it a being. Everything is said, even
Speaker 3: when you go overseas and do your thing, Bro, don't
Speaker 3: ever let them motherfucker champagne with your mouth. Okay.
Speaker 6: The count on the pocket, Yeah, I like like Chris,
Speaker 6: he's going out names.
Speaker 1: I like that throwing out be poor to do that.
Speaker 3: The grip, Yeah, Chris Roster his head back a litt buddy, though.
Speaker 1: It ain't nothing he ain't heard before. Sure a bucket.
Speaker 1: I'm half respected. Yeah, he definitely Hall of Fame. But
Speaker 1: it was fun.
Speaker 4: The week after about the week after and then we
Speaker 4: all left, like draft, it was about three days and like,
Speaker 4: let's enjoy ourselves, right, Uh, No, class, nothing like that.
Speaker 1: And then he was going to class.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like number two public schools in the country. You
Speaker 4: haven't listen two point eight two point I'm just getting by.
Speaker 4: But you had to be there for sure, Damn, that's
Speaker 4: them three days.
Speaker 1: We was good, may said anything.
Speaker 2: It was probably good beforehand when y'all got that laws
Speaker 2: of sixteen days.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, after don't miss an hour.
Speaker 4: Damn, that's crazy. Then we all left, so I mean
Speaker 4: we were. I was there like a week after and
Speaker 4: then yes, I ain't. None of us have graduated yet nothing.
Speaker 2: So so was you for sure leaving? Like did it
Speaker 2: ever like cross your mind? Like me, I might come back.
Speaker 4: If and I was there, I would have thought about
Speaker 4: it a lot hard so for me, like, uh, I
Speaker 4: don't know. I written, I written, wrote down my goals,
Speaker 4: like when I went to college, and I accomplished everything
Speaker 4: I wanted to, like the national player of the year
Speaker 4: wasn't really like I probably could have been in contention
Speaker 4: the next year, but that wasn't important to me. Uh,
Speaker 4: And so I did everything I wanted to get my
Speaker 4: jersey retired. I'm an I wanted won the championship. I
Speaker 4: was all acc want like all these accolades or whatever,
Speaker 4: and we won as a team.
Speaker 1: I'm straight, So I was good.
Speaker 2: That is How was your draft process.
Speaker 1: It was weird. Man.
Speaker 4: Like again, I'm six two like Bucks seventy.
Speaker 1: Like, it was tough.
Speaker 4: I did sixteen workouts and my best two workouts I
Speaker 4: was the Pacers and uh and the Kings and Pacers
Speaker 4: like literally best I've ever played probably.
Speaker 1: In my life at that point.
Speaker 4: And and I go to GM's office and he basically
Speaker 4: told me they weren't like interested, essentially, like right after
Speaker 4: this is like right after the workout.
Speaker 1: N B A, Yeah, they don't. They don't. No offense
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: But at that point we were leading the league and
Speaker 2: white people, I don't think another one.
Speaker 1: I hear that.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 2: We would have had to drop TJ. McConnell for but
Speaker 2: we would have had four white people on the team.
Speaker 2: That's that's the NBA. Fine, you can't have four white
Speaker 2: people NBA team. I'm happy that you're the Pacers. I
Speaker 2: think it was my rookie year. They had done Leavy,
Speaker 2: Troy Murphy, Jeff Foster, Jeff Foster, Coroachnain't that fucking h.
Speaker 3: You played with Jeff Foster?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I draw the ship out of me.
Speaker 3: Who was the backup?
Speaker 1: Travis Best? What the it was like? Travis Deen or something.
Speaker 1: We had Hansbrough brother too. It was Tylers Burrow, Ben's Burrow.
Speaker 1: I think T. J. Ford was on that team. Only
Speaker 1: that my life was a j R.
Speaker 2: Smith and Chris Smith because if you want me to
Speaker 2: be a Nick, you gotta signe my brother because going
Speaker 2: crazy when they when they had that Sham's report where
Speaker 2: his brother like, yeah he signed back in Milwaukee, my boy,
Speaker 2: I'm playing with Constance and the nice nice you you
Speaker 2: tapped in?
Speaker 3: Who was the guards and Sacramento when.
Speaker 1: I got drafted? Yeah it was Fox buddy healed. I
Speaker 1: got a question for you after this, go ahead? Who
Speaker 1: was Corey Joe? Who is that? Was? He was? He was?
Speaker 1: He was a real one for sure? Uh a was there?
Speaker 4: Luke Wallams first first year, I think he started on
Speaker 4: six was a tough year man. But it was a
Speaker 4: great locker room though for real, I mean we weren't
Speaker 4: we weren't very good and and all that, but we
Speaker 4: had a great locker room.
Speaker 1: Like it was tough, are you? You didn't get to
Speaker 1: for the like the beam Ship. No, I wasn't there
Speaker 1: for that. Man didn't get hit to like the bab
Speaker 1: ship because that was crazy. It was because this is
Speaker 1: a new front office. That's why I got. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that's why I got.
Speaker 4: Cut Butt was the GM and he loved me, and
Speaker 4: then there was there and he just wasn't his guy.
Speaker 1: It's just fine. So yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't wish I was there, said that I wish,
Speaker 4: I wish I would have stuck in Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I thought that was it, but
Speaker 1: I thought it was it too.
Speaker 2: Hey man on the spot, Holler Burton the fox y'all
Speaker 2: all away.
Speaker 4: It just depends, man, how I mean, I'm listen, I'm
Speaker 4: just keeping a buck I'm I'm way.
Speaker 1: I'm super cool with Tyree. It's like my guy, and.
Speaker 4: He's better for h Like if I wanted to play
Speaker 4: with somebody, for sure, Tyrese and getting a bucket. Though,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Fox. That may Ra ain't silly.
Speaker 2: He's so athletic, fastest with the ball on the last maybe,
Speaker 2: oh my god, crazy. I got a story about Fox.
Speaker 2: He retired me, him and Darius Garland retirement shout DG.
Speaker 2: They retired me. I had to play Fox. They Fox
Speaker 2: didn't retire me. Darious Garland retirement. Fox made me want
Speaker 2: to go to the bench. I was like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: ready to come off the bench.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: He was running so fast one game, I swear to god,
Speaker 2: he just kept running at me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nigga, do he think I'm sweet?
Speaker 4: But he can change directions going oh yeah, my.
Speaker 1: Knees still suffering from them changing directions.
Speaker 3: He top in the league.
Speaker 1: He was running so fast. I'm like, what what did
Speaker 1: I do to him? Like why he want to why
Speaker 1: you want to go at me? Own that? I'm like,
Speaker 1: did I do something? But I remember I dunked on that. Nigga,
Speaker 1: you got on that and I said, damn.
Speaker 2: But after that he tried to kill me ever since then,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go.
Speaker 3: To twenty five nights.
Speaker 2: It was easy Sea, Like, I mean, like Teresa better,
Speaker 2: like all around player and in my nold but I
Speaker 2: like tycause, like you said, you want to be on
Speaker 2: the court with him, Like how I watch how scouting
Speaker 2: y'all watched him play for the Pacers one hundred times
Speaker 2: in the group, just like Jail because of like everybody
Speaker 2: wanted to play. Buddy Hill was shining and everybody played great.
Speaker 2: And then when he got hurt. You see how drastically
Speaker 2: they fell off, so I was like, damn, that lets me.
Speaker 1: Know how good he is cold bro. But then I
Speaker 1: watched Fox this year. Yeah, he did turn off the level.
Speaker 1: He took over the playoffs and it looked crazy.
Speaker 2: It looked like this is a superstar, like he had
Speaker 2: this team looking amazing.
Speaker 1: So but for me, it's just like teach it is
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong.
Speaker 4: But to Tyres, that's forty percent minimum from three every
Speaker 4: single year.
Speaker 1: And Fox is gonna fluctuate.
Speaker 4: He might shoot tougher shots sometimes, but it's gonna fluctuate
Speaker 4: and then facilitating.
Speaker 1: I got Tyrese he's bigger. Like seeing there and Fox
Speaker 1: close our games in the playoffs. He got a lot
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: He got like a dog game that I can just take.
Speaker 2: I would love to see Tyres in the playoff moment.
Speaker 1: I think next year.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. You're a Fox who like he support,
Speaker 3: can't go back? Ye who like you know, I'm cool,
Speaker 3: my baby mama. Everything's good at home. He's smooth. Even
Speaker 3: when I watched him play at the pro a Disney
Speaker 3: run ship, I'm like, he's so chill, bro. He like,
Speaker 3: oh we can do your thame.
Speaker 2: B Yeah, like he he got that good blend of
Speaker 2: like I'm a pure point guard. I can get you
Speaker 2: the rock. I can get twenty five, but I'm gonna
Speaker 2: get you the rock. And that's what I like about
Speaker 2: him because that's how I'm not to him. But that's
Speaker 2: how I played, like I really see other people kill
Speaker 2: and that makes me.
Speaker 3: He was real passive, all right, he was was now
Speaker 3: that we on that. I like school, bro, Like, you know,
Speaker 3: you had a hell of a career, bro, but you
Speaker 3: was just so passive all the time.
Speaker 2: Like, Bro, I played with Joe Johnson, Bro, jam you
Speaker 2: play with d I left him with Paul George. You
Speaker 2: gotta be passive like, but I found like you could
Speaker 2: shoot more with it.
Speaker 1: I could have. I could have shot more.
Speaker 2: They wanted to shoot he did. Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 2: that was a different conversation. I still have mante to
Speaker 2: the Mississippi Bullet.
Speaker 3: Real GDP gift of all time.
Speaker 1: But speaking of Disney Runs, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You got that organized of the city, good basketball, tell
Speaker 2: people about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So this runs a pro am me and my trainer,
Speaker 4: UH put together. So it's called Disney Runs cause my
Speaker 4: trainer is Dereck Grant. He was a Harlem glow trotter
Speaker 4: and his name was Disney Grant. Back in the day,
Speaker 4: I was going to ask you what I was. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So it was cool how I met him too, because
Speaker 4: somebody us like, yo, you gotta come work out with
Speaker 4: this dude. I didn't really have a trainer, and I
Speaker 4: was trying to get my shot right again, like I'm
Speaker 4: going to high school, and they're like, you got to
Speaker 4: work out with him?
Speaker 1: Used to be a hollow globe trotter.
Speaker 4: Like, man, I'm not about to go up there and
Speaker 4: spend half court shots.
Speaker 1: Whatever.
Speaker 4: Ended up going because my man's and so we went
Speaker 4: and it was great, and so we hit it off.
Speaker 1: We've been together ever since.
Speaker 4: But but yeah, so Disney runs, man, we'd be having,
Speaker 4: you know, a couple thousand people come every every week.
Speaker 1: My boy Jeffrey playing in it. He's passive in that too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. My boy put on a
Speaker 3: performance verse verst y'all. Yes, I didn't get a real,
Speaker 3: real highlight real. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: But no, look it's crazy. He says he's chilling. Then
Speaker 4: when I'm guarding them, he ran me over like he
Speaker 4: was right straight.
Speaker 2: All right, where I'm from the hood. I grew up
Speaker 2: in Well, the white dude on the court. I got
Speaker 2: a question though because of that though, Like did you
Speaker 2: experience that though, because like when I was growing up,
Speaker 2: my dad used to be like, all right, when the
Speaker 2: white dude's on the court, like we gotta attack him.
Speaker 2: We got attack him. But like trying to attack you
Speaker 2: and you could hoop. I know what is probably was
Speaker 2: like a ship for sure.
Speaker 4: And I listen, I'm not no lockdown defender, but like
Speaker 4: I know how to get after it. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 4: found you and they didn't call like I know how
Speaker 4: to like you definitely felt me just got out. I
Speaker 4: just got thrown into the fire at a young age.
Speaker 4: And I played up in high school. Always play seventeen
Speaker 4: you so like I was if I played varsity as
Speaker 4: a freshman.
Speaker 3: Like kill I speak on behalf of black people. I
Speaker 3: see you torch a lot offs.
Speaker 2: Like we can talk about it for sure, mister basketball.
Speaker 1: Learn quick. We was in the mix.
Speaker 2: So you know you Pike, that's l En. That's now
Speaker 2: on the I'm about to go look at your highlights.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go see your games against Pipe now, bro,
Speaker 2: I got the film.
Speaker 3: He destroyed a lot of people though.
Speaker 1: A lot of you get on pipe. How much you
Speaker 1: get on pipe, I couldn't tell you to be thirty five?
Speaker 1: Who's on pipe?
Speaker 4: I never I don't think. I don't think I always
Speaker 4: had twenty. I guess him usually, but I don't think
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 1: Who I want to it was on pipe. Must look up.
Speaker 2: But speaking of the program runs, talk was on yes,
Speaker 2: oh yeah, juice juice?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah cool. That's that's a good team.
Speaker 2: Speaking of program runs, we ever get any type of
Speaker 2: basketball similar to what we got in the lockout where
Speaker 2: everybody's going praising the program.
Speaker 1: Now, I could ship home from broken.
Speaker 2: Foot, damn, I think so that was the last off. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's the best basketball I've ever seen in my life.
Speaker 2: I know what organized, but them lockout prom ruins. What's
Speaker 2: crazy because we got to see all the players we
Speaker 2: like play with each other in one big ass setting.
Speaker 1: You got to say, who was really like that? And
Speaker 1: they were playing for real? Because like not for really,
Speaker 1: you know, so do you make those phone calls but
Speaker 1: to get the players?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he tapped in exhausted.
Speaker 4: I taket every single person that's there, and I gotta
Speaker 4: usually hit.
Speaker 1: Him up more than one.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody Hollywood and there's somebody and they'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I be there and then like an hour before the game,
Speaker 4: I can't make it and I got to feel that
Speaker 4: spot in thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I had quit. We had the program
Speaker 2: before y'all had it at the Factory.
Speaker 1: I quit.
Speaker 2: I bound out basically because it's like it takes too
Speaker 2: much to have people come like, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 2: don't got a lot of patience. So like if somebody
Speaker 2: said they not coming on, yeah, yeah, yeah you got
Speaker 2: I got one more year.
Speaker 1: I got one more year of like you got it lit,
Speaker 1: now you gotta keep going.
Speaker 4: It's like we're just gonna keep going, but of me
Speaker 4: doing everything, respect one more year.
Speaker 1: I respect that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Delegate, We as a state and as the city
Speaker 2: got too much time for us to be arguing about
Speaker 2: hooping in the summer, Like it's okay, we're the best
Speaker 2: state in basketball, are the best city?
Speaker 1: I think?
Speaker 2: So what basketball? Might we kind of fell off a
Speaker 2: little bit? The best listen from from uh maybe not
Speaker 2: from three to seven for sure, No three to like eighteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, y'all giving us too much love?
Speaker 2: No we had, we had an we almost had an
Speaker 2: NBA player from like absolutely.
Speaker 3: But saying being the best for fifteen years. But here's
Speaker 3: the thing.
Speaker 4: You gotta think he and he knows for sure, and
Speaker 4: he gonna know now that he's coaching like we got.
Speaker 4: It's not just the players, it's like the schemes and
Speaker 4: the coaching. The atmosphere is like it's you're not different
Speaker 4: and you can't touch this.
Speaker 1: With like look at it.
Speaker 3: Look at Ben this year understood. I'm telling y'all like
Speaker 3: ass to say we had a fifteen year run, y'all,
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say the best player.
Speaker 3: I'm not the best like I'm talking about about Cow Cow.
Speaker 1: But all right, but just think about it, like this
Speaker 1: year we got a kid from Cocomo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Flory he top five, We got Jay, We got
Speaker 3: yln Harrison to Jalen Harrison.
Speaker 1: But is only gonna be a.
Speaker 3: Kid from Cocobo.
Speaker 1: Last. But think about we had last year we had
Speaker 1: kid from Cathedral.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, come on, shout the book in that shoe,
Speaker 2: come on, like it just keeps kind of going though.
Speaker 3: Trace he was got great, bro, we have great talent.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying to say we had a fifteen Like
Speaker 3: from oh three, it's no disrespect when y'all was in
Speaker 3: school cal but from for real oh three to O
Speaker 3: seven it was lit man.
Speaker 1: That was That was for sure the best.
Speaker 3: That's what everybody was. Yeah, that was a crazy time period,
Speaker 3: minimal it was like it was. It didn't matter if
Speaker 3: you if you missed the pike in since the game,
Speaker 3: you can go see such and such point. You can
Speaker 3: go see Joshman Roberts played somebody and it was cool.
Speaker 3: You weren't tripping like when y'all was in school, Bro,
Speaker 3: you was a ticket, was a ticket. Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So yeah, same know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: They was years apart though it's twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got twenty fourteen, fourteen, twenty sixteen, and then you
Speaker 1: had move Yeah shout mook.
Speaker 3: They was dukie though they had.
Speaker 1: But then you had T Davante and you had RJ
Speaker 1: with they listen hundred and that's.
Speaker 3: When they brought it back, that r J class, RJ
Speaker 3: Hunter class. That brought it back, y'all class like for
Speaker 3: you cow cow.
Speaker 1: I guess what, guys, we have.
Speaker 2: A nation wide audience now, so we'll have to talk
Speaker 2: about our Indiana high school basketball. Get on your hours.
Speaker 2: But obviously, you know what I'm saying was a sacrament
Speaker 2: and then you know what I'm saying, there's some time
Speaker 2: and that.
Speaker 1: Was go for hours or a while. I'm just here.
Speaker 1: I'm just here. We're not gonna grow up here, We're not.
Speaker 3: I don't even about that. That's not a human possible.
Speaker 1: Moving on, moving.
Speaker 2: Sacramento. A couple of years in league, and then you
Speaker 2: got to Miami. How was playing the South Beach because
Speaker 2: you were shooting the funk out?
Speaker 4: The bottom story was was crazy. So I started off.
Speaker 4: I went to Cleveland on exhibit ten because there's no disrespect.
Speaker 4: I thought that was the worst roster in the league.
Speaker 4: And I was like, I want to make a roster spot.
Speaker 4: I mean, they was like had good players obviously, but
Speaker 4: I didn't think top to bottom.
Speaker 1: They was that good.
Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm gonna go there. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to fight for a roster spot. Man training camp. There
Speaker 4: was no live like five on five nothing. I didn't see.
Speaker 1: The court was the coach uh bigger staff.
Speaker 4: Wow, they didn't have no lot of I mean we're
Speaker 4: talking like a couple of minutes here and there and
Speaker 4: it was starters versus five and I'm fighting for spots thirteen,
Speaker 4: fourteen to fifteen, so like, and there was just no
Speaker 4: real opportunity for us, and so I didn't even get
Speaker 4: a two way there. I played with their GLE team
Speaker 4: for ten to eleven games and was playing really well.
Speaker 4: And then I got COVID right before the G League
Speaker 4: showcase in Vegas.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: And it was during Christmas. I'm stuck in the apartment
Speaker 4: in Cleveland and I'm getting all these calls for ten
Speaker 4: days during I got to turn them down, like Boston Orlando.
Speaker 4: I got turned all these down, and then finally on
Speaker 4: the last day I test negative. Miami calls it like.
Speaker 1: Ten at night and says you have a six a
Speaker 1: hand flight.
Speaker 4: And I didn't have any basketball shoes because they're all
Speaker 4: at the gym and I was in quarantine, so I
Speaker 4: was stuck in the I go straight from the apartment
Speaker 4: in Cleveland, no basketball shoes to San Antonio where we played,
Speaker 4: and there's no like real sneaker stores in San Antonio.
Speaker 1: That's a little week mall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I went there because I had to get
Speaker 4: I had to get We played that day, so.
Speaker 1: I know what he's saying, because they ain't got no stories.
Speaker 1: And so I I get I land in San Antonio
Speaker 1: or whatever. Ten a m. We play that night against the.
Speaker 4: Spurs, and I go to the meeting, and during when
Speaker 4: I usually would take a nap, I go to I
Speaker 4: gotta get some shoes. Like I didn't tell the equipment
Speaker 4: STAF because I I don't know. I knew, I was
Speaker 4: trying to get it right. I go somehow they have
Speaker 4: what the Kobe's?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, uh seven?
Speaker 4: So I want to say, no, no, no, they had
Speaker 4: like this. It was the last stoor I checked. I
Speaker 4: went into Champs nothing. I went into like these random ones.
Speaker 1: They had nothing.
Speaker 4: I go and they had the they had the vacuum
Speaker 4: sealed shoes.
Speaker 1: I got to have something. There's a reseal.
Speaker 4: So who did some what the Kobe's that somebody else
Speaker 4: wore before?
Speaker 1: They was too small?
Speaker 4: I wear twelve they or elevens all I had and
Speaker 4: they had seventeen that night.
Speaker 2: Uh damn man, So you ain't running them back though
Speaker 2: you run? He won them again after that? Yeah, yo,
Speaker 2: your feet for sure? You like bow wow like my side.
Speaker 2: You her you got black totails right now?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 4: Sure, I forgot shoes in the NBA. Is you got
Speaker 4: turf toe afterbout after after my first thing day. When
Speaker 4: I got the second today day, I had on my shoes.
Speaker 3: Probably like seven you like, you're damn foster kids.
Speaker 2: You could have got some shoes, man, come on, man,
Speaker 2: I respect that was I mean with the exhibiting you
Speaker 2: make like ninety thousand or something like that, but thirty
Speaker 2: seven thousand, so.
Speaker 1: Definitely was in the podcast.
Speaker 4: But so I killed for two weeks, like like real good,
Speaker 4: you did not even like I was playing really well
Speaker 4: and everyone got healthy and they had a they had
Speaker 4: a deep roster like they had some some some players,
Speaker 4: so I knew I wasn't gonna like play minutes minutes again.
Speaker 4: But I thought, like when they signed me to the
Speaker 4: two way for the rest of the year, like I
Speaker 4: was set in the next year, maybe we get on
Speaker 4: rock with you not guaranteed or roster spot.
Speaker 1: Something like that.
Speaker 2: And I was there for like three months or something
Speaker 2: before they come Yeah, that's crazy because like you said,
Speaker 2: you see that team flush, I should have been on there.
Speaker 1: I should be shooting the game.
Speaker 2: It's and three.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like it was weird though, because they
Speaker 4: like supposed to told me when he cut me, he
Speaker 4: was like and I love spoke like he was very
Speaker 4: honest with me always whatever. When he cut me, it
Speaker 4: was it was like it was kind of cool, like
Speaker 4: because he was like giving me a lot of props
Speaker 4: and stuff, and like walking into that locker room, that
Speaker 4: was a tough locker room.
Speaker 1: Just walk into bro.
Speaker 4: YEA, Markith Morris, Jimmy Butler, Kyle Lowry, PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker O G PJ.
Speaker 4: Dudes that have done it before and like big personalities
Speaker 4: and last money, Like it was tough to just walk
Speaker 4: in there. And he gave me props to like being
Speaker 4: able to adapt to that, and I was like, I
Speaker 4: take pride in that, like being able to get along
Speaker 4: with everybody.
Speaker 1: And all that type of thing. And then in practice,
Speaker 1: I was like a practice player.
Speaker 4: I was try Young one night and in practice and
Speaker 4: then I would be James Harden the next and like
Speaker 4: and I was mimicking their games for.
Speaker 1: Him, and he like gave me props for that, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's why I was so confused that y'all
Speaker 1: cut me, because I was doing everything right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean, that's the league, bro.
Speaker 2: Like like we was talking about before we got on camera.
Speaker 2: You could be doing everything right, you could be killing
Speaker 2: and it just might not be your time.
Speaker 3: And it was.
Speaker 2: I understand that for one hundred percent because my first
Speaker 2: two years I just couldn't understand why I couldn't get.
Speaker 1: In the game. But then you realize this dude is
Speaker 1: making thirty eight million dollars. Yeah, like.
Speaker 2: You ain't about to make me look stupid out here,
Speaker 2: Like I spent thirty eight on him. He playing, But
Speaker 2: come with the territory.
Speaker 1: It's all good.
Speaker 2: It worked out. That's crazy, all right, man. So obviously
Speaker 2: the best part of shows when we get to talk
Speaker 2: about it. That ain't basketball. Be here your girl Lizo.
Speaker 2: They brought her up on allegations. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Man, that's just the Illuminati working they Man, that's just
Speaker 3: the Illuminati working their magic.
Speaker 1: Illuminati. Yeah they got Lizzo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got her. They got the first plus sized
Speaker 3: queen to you know, get out there and echa fool,
Speaker 3: say she's doing all these random rituals.
Speaker 2: Like her allegations are crazy. Yeah, somebody walks to get
Speaker 2: a cheesecake. Yeah, bros, that's what it said.
Speaker 1: That was a joke. That's hilarious.
Speaker 2: Bro, I thought it was real too, that everything else
Speaker 2: that she's doing banana, that's real, That's.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying. I would have believed that too. Who
Speaker 3: works Dwyight Howard or Lizzo right now?
Speaker 2: Liz O Vio like the produce right that I gotta go, Lizo,
Speaker 2: I gotta go.
Speaker 3: Look, could you fun with it? But I'm not a
Speaker 3: but no either.
Speaker 1: That's crazy clear. That's about the horse saying. I don't
Speaker 1: want me to say that point over there, I like you.
Speaker 3: Said she violated the produce. I'm like, I don't really,
Speaker 3: but I don't care. Do what you want with them.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying I just wanted you'll take like who
Speaker 3: you got lizend real twelve?
Speaker 1: I bow, I bow gracefully.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Oh well you.
Speaker 2: Forget it was just like listen, she's so she's so
Speaker 2: strong because she had underwear of the basketball game. Anybody
Speaker 2: what they passed off at the basketball game is going
Speaker 2: to be asking strong.
Speaker 3: Because she built like my fucking Mark Henry. That's why
Speaker 3: I'm strong.
Speaker 1: Like that's like were talking about the heart. We didn't
Speaker 1: talk about we didn't talk about.
Speaker 3: Man, right, But I got a question though, bro, Like,
Speaker 3: now you know you still continue your professional career. Like
Speaker 3: what you what tunes you listening to get you going
Speaker 3: before the game?
Speaker 4: Man, I'm a I'm kind of an old head, not
Speaker 4: like not too like nineties ahead, but like early two thousands,
Speaker 4: like and sometimes playing with it.
Speaker 7: Rock with it, okay, or or like it's getting And
Speaker 7: I was in high school. Stop its crazy.
Speaker 1: No, I'm talking like fifty or like when I was
Speaker 1: in high school. Man, I didn't I didn't listen to.
Speaker 4: I didn't listen to nothing but fucking uh g Herbal
Speaker 4: in my ten or three hundred because that's all my
Speaker 4: my team has listening to and for the games, and so.
Speaker 1: Damn I'm that much older than you, g Herbals.
Speaker 3: That's when his musical was good back then, Kobe, Yeah
Speaker 3: you follow that was but yeah.
Speaker 2: But made you're supposed to be my hoss horrible every
Speaker 2: twenty dollars. You're supposed to a kid for you have.
Speaker 3: A mixed baby. I know, of course now I'm talking
Speaker 3: about back then. You listen to face Oh that was
Speaker 3: all bad that.
Speaker 1: He got a problem with people's lineage. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's a key word in the show. He likes to
Speaker 2: you know what I'm.
Speaker 3: Saying no, if you was listening to herdal Funck with
Speaker 3: that like you was happening early.
Speaker 1: So if you was that where you graduated.
Speaker 4: I graduated twenty sixteen, so twenty twelve to sixteen, ye
Speaker 4: you was a bad that's right.
Speaker 5: When nine years I was, I was going to Cray
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen when the speaker knockers r P, he did,
Speaker 5: I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: He just got no.
Speaker 3: The chief keif music was for sure less drill was
Speaker 3: going to drill. There we go drill music.
Speaker 1: Now Now I'm I'm a little more calm than I
Speaker 1: was back then. So rod wave is about. That's what
Speaker 1: I like.
Speaker 3: Show me some love.
Speaker 1: Like it makes me a little sad, But to be
Speaker 1: ready to come home at the.
Speaker 3: Light is my ship.
Speaker 1: Bro greenlighted those something though, Damn Cay in the country
Speaker 1: listen everything he was Jimmy too long. You listen to
Speaker 1: the country that's low key.
Speaker 4: While we hit it off because we played cards together
Speaker 4: on the plane, and then I could listen to anything
Speaker 4: because he's very versatile for sure, and I could get
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 2: You could have talked to Jimmy before he got the
Speaker 2: dreads in.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Jimmy cool as hell so cool podcast Forever has love
Speaker 2: for Jimmy.
Speaker 1: I got love for Jimmy.
Speaker 4: But my god, one of the coolest cast for sure
Speaker 4: that I spent time with and he and he was
Speaker 4: super cool to me. Like again, I was on a
Speaker 4: ten days, like he didn't have to show me no love,
Speaker 4: and it wouldn't and I wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: Thought twice about it.
Speaker 4: Just a bitiness, okay, but he was like, you want
Speaker 4: to come get a cup of coffee in my house
Speaker 4: because he got a big face with them. So yeah,
Speaker 4: and we always we played cards met him, Gab and
Speaker 4: PJ or playing cars, so PJ cool, hell to losing one.
Speaker 2: Shot the pjues. I'm sure he was on losing Internet.
Speaker 1: Yeah they professionable, Come on, bro, I say.
Speaker 4: But I always would talking down because like they're trying
Speaker 4: to play like one hundred dollars hands five hundred.
Speaker 1: Especially PJ. Let's just people got all that money men.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm not getting no card game with
Speaker 2: you man. We started playing like Phase ten for money,
Speaker 2: very ridiculous.
Speaker 3: You get all that money, man, that's a firm reunion game.
Speaker 1: The reunion that you know you said you said you
Speaker 1: played football when you was young.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So who your team, Cincinnati Bengals. Is that always
Speaker 1: been your team or since I was born? That's fucked up.
Speaker 1: I know I had a rough life recently. About to say,
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, I'm three one seven until I died.
Speaker 4: But my dad's from Cincinnati to raise went to U
Speaker 4: see like yeah, and so I had no choice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he passes it on to me. So
Speaker 1: my son's about to be too. Now he's a Bengals fan.
Speaker 4: So he's eighteen. And if you want to go on somewhere,
Speaker 4: all good.
Speaker 1: So why you ain't go to U c.
Speaker 4: DA Corona Mann? I mean we were talking, we brought
Speaker 4: it up earlier. I don't know if he's ever like
Speaker 4: offered the white person before before.
Speaker 1: You still you know what I mean? I mean for real, man,
Speaker 1: you on some ship. You're not even talking about it.
Speaker 1: That was moot. That was Mook Secondary school. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have.
Speaker 4: Went there, d and I you if one of them
Speaker 4: would have like correctly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about high school. If you would have
Speaker 2: went to U see you yes, would have had a baby.
Speaker 4: But like my dad went to you see, he was
Speaker 4: cool Melvin Levitt back in the day. I grew up
Speaker 4: watching Bouncey Washings and.
Speaker 1: Knuckles. Yeah, east Side for real, for real?
Speaker 4: Feel oh bro, I know bro that as you talk,
Speaker 4: you tapped in with high school basketball.
Speaker 2: I was going to everyone, he said, twenty sixteen. I said,
Speaker 2: what the I was like really playing. He was at
Speaker 2: the Dollars game. He was in the league, man, I
Speaker 2: was like having a ball yeah, in the league, Like,
Speaker 2: oh hell yeah yeah. I was like, yeah that was
Speaker 2: the All Star Yeah, before we get out of here.
Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all seen the quot to that
Speaker 2: by Rudy Gobert. Did y'all see it?
Speaker 1: The virginity thing? What do you say?
Speaker 2: He his first three in the game, he said, I like,
Speaker 2: I lost my virginity.
Speaker 3: I thought you were about to give him a green story.
Speaker 3: He's just a gun about the same way a liar
Speaker 3: you see a green.
Speaker 2: I think I believe what thing was he? All the
Speaker 2: Lakers he had, he had a Jerry Crow magic them all, Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 2: magic was for throwing the sist. Tell me he never
Speaker 2: get behind him back, not off the court. He was
Speaker 2: off the court.
Speaker 1: I don't believe he's cat. I believe I.
Speaker 3: Believe it, Bro. It's always good a good person in
Speaker 3: the league, Bro, so at least.
Speaker 2: One your first. Yeah, I played with a good person
Speaker 2: in the league. You played with Uh it was me
Speaker 2: and Kyle Korver, Absolutely, but.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about No, that was move Mary mind they
Speaker 3: played with Man of the Year. I thought you played
Speaker 3: with Jackson Collin.
Speaker 1: I did play with Jason did. What we're talking about virginity?
Speaker 1: Why you why are you always going?
Speaker 3: Because he said, Bro, he has said, I you.
Speaker 1: Appointed at when you talk. I didn't say this.
Speaker 3: Y'are talking about niggas losing their virginity. First of all,
Speaker 3: I don't even know what I don't even know why
Speaker 3: Rudy go burt is saying that he's such a gump
Speaker 3: talking about people like thinking.
Speaker 1: About every talking with Cob happen microphone and then got
Speaker 1: it immediately.
Speaker 2: He's a shut down the NBA on with Dobin positive.
Speaker 3: I hated he signed contract after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why he left.
Speaker 3: Und He got.
Speaker 1: Two Minnesota boy. Y'all got some moves to make.
Speaker 2: I got some ro niggas from that line. Ya got
Speaker 2: Jeffrey t being really probably about we made out like
Speaker 2: some fat rats. That's a crazy company to departments man
Speaker 2: through the crowd, the jersey and the crowd when they
Speaker 2: got the player. It was the hardest thing ever. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, since when you're talking about that for I know,
Speaker 2: we gotta go. But are they really about to have
Speaker 2: like a season championship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 2: Boy, if I see a banner in the stadium about
Speaker 2: the mid season championship, I'm a sucking loser.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be calld fired. Though, Bro, what like, what
Speaker 1: is it like? It's for a trophy you get a million,
Speaker 1: but the team a million dollars. I think it's somethingbout that.
Speaker 1: It's a money intent of two team you get an extra.
Speaker 2: Kyle.
Speaker 1: Yes, the TV Disney runs on steroids because the summer brings.
Speaker 1: If you think of you the last if you.
Speaker 2: Nine through thirteen, fourteen, whatever, it's on the rosting, you
Speaker 2: hype his hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was thinking I didn't know the benefits of it.
Speaker 2: Y'all know, I'm hype as hell if I get a
Speaker 2: million dollars and I'm sure yeah I'm gonna portion of it.
Speaker 2: It's like, Yeah, you gotta think it's gonna be your
Speaker 2: time to shine too, because the main players ain't gonna
Speaker 2: play in that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's true. That's good point. Now I have
Speaker 1: a question about behind that.
Speaker 2: Are they gonna count that towards the limit that you
Speaker 2: have to have games play for the sensives, because if
Speaker 2: they do that and force they head, that's crazy because
Speaker 2: you know you got to play at least sixty five
Speaker 2: to get this point.
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be a part of that nafety too?
Speaker 2: And you gotta play there and you gotta go hooping
Speaker 2: the fucking playing, and then god forbid something happens to
Speaker 2: where somebody same the rest of the season. Then what
Speaker 2: because they're not gonna respect that enough. I mean, they're
Speaker 2: still playing eighty one right the game exactly. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to tell you, I ain't played in a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you played for minute, but I ain't never played.
Speaker 2: I played eighty two one time, right for him? Hey,
Speaker 2: mister eighty two, I play. I played eighty two one time.
Speaker 2: That's because I was in the contract year. That was
Speaker 2: what the pacers I swear to got. Everybody thinks he
Speaker 2: then ships I did not finess, But that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I had to stop arguing with motherfuckers. I'm like, he's
Speaker 3: just after I watched like clips of you talking about
Speaker 3: it look like I hate the It looks like you
Speaker 3: hate it. I'm like, no, people know they are bro.
Speaker 3: How they put it like it could be like if
Speaker 3: you don't know him, I'm saying, if I didn't really
Speaker 3: know him, I'd be like, bro, he's a piece of ship.
Speaker 1: I saw somebody in that way. You know him now?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's my nigga though. But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 3: I know he really cared about hooping though.
Speaker 4: I literally saw something the other day about the podcast
Speaker 4: and it was like, Jeff has not told the positive stories.
Speaker 1: In the NBA camp.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean, you haven't though real ship. He does.
Speaker 3: People I do, but it's like that getting overshadowed.
Speaker 2: I told you, yeah, people like mass like what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna tell Yeah, I made one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: You should.
Speaker 2: You can't turn up. But I'm it was like I
Speaker 2: don't want to hear like, but it is. I do
Speaker 2: tell stories like how I like, I see got Kyle's
Speaker 2: guys like Kyle, they come in to the league, they
Speaker 2: get the opportunity. He made the most when these in Miami.
Speaker 3: But its just talking about yourself though, because they feel
Speaker 3: like you about myself.
Speaker 1: Like that's like.
Speaker 3: Like he don't want to he can say how he
Speaker 3: killed some people and then you're gonna slender him for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna be like, oh, he but he only
Speaker 2: did it. Want this Like I act like I didn't
Speaker 2: hit a game winner on somebody or something, but it's
Speaker 2: like I did that.
Speaker 3: Because people be under the post like putting your stats
Speaker 3: may be ready.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's wild man. You can't care argue
Speaker 1: with it that you can't win Internet, Like, I guarantee you.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 1: It was so crazy when we all lost in the
Speaker 1: first round.
Speaker 4: Oh boy, I didn't know, but one of the one
Speaker 4: of the ways we kind of got over it was
Speaker 4: kind of funny.
Speaker 1: We was all at h Isaiah Wilkinson. I mentioned him
Speaker 1: earlier and uh it was like ten of us.
Speaker 4: From the team and we're all reading who had the
Speaker 4: worst DM and bro some of them are so outrageous, bro,
Speaker 4: like like I hope your mother dies type Bro. This
Speaker 4: is a first I was a basketball game. Second off, come.
Speaker 2: At me all you want what what they hashtag was
Speaker 2: supposed to many last but it was crazy.
Speaker 1: We literally every time somebody started talking a d M
Speaker 1: it was worse than the one before. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: You should have seen you should have seen what they
Speaker 2: said about what I didn't even say the way I said,
Speaker 2: the way he was still dote. Yeah, but I think
Speaker 2: I guess I said I was better than.
Speaker 3: Man what you would really agree with his take to.
Speaker 3: But but I tell them all the time, like when
Speaker 3: we clip stuff up on the show, people don't really.
Speaker 1: They don't watch the whole time.
Speaker 3: We just had an athlete discussion and people saying the
Speaker 3: names that we really talked about. So when he said
Speaker 3: that and we go off of really me and him
Speaker 3: for real, it's just the player. We weren't saying Dwayne
Speaker 3: Wade's career, James Harden. We're talking about skill for skill,
Speaker 3: what can each other do? So people start talking about, well,
Speaker 3: James Harden don't got no championship, James Harden always getting
Speaker 3: put out first round, but he still can get forty
Speaker 3: weird lose.
Speaker 1: But you know it's important about that.
Speaker 2: Shout outs to the five twenty game people who fuck
Speaker 2: with us understand that explained all that. Like, let me
Speaker 2: ask you a question since we hear we're still talking
Speaker 2: so we take too long, But who your top five
Speaker 2: shooting guards.
Speaker 1: Since everybody's on my case, we ain't put you on
Speaker 1: the So how we do this? We eliminate championship.
Speaker 2: Were talking about talking about like and you like like
Speaker 2: I mean, like, Kyrie is one of the best players
Speaker 2: ever touched basketball.
Speaker 4: He's not going to be listed top five, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean. But you can put on five for this.
Speaker 3: It's yours.
Speaker 2: Kobe d Wade. No, I'm not doing that's fair, Kobe
Speaker 2: d Wade. I need like a list like Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan, Jordan's team, Matt ray Allen. I'm just throwing
Speaker 2: our names.
Speaker 1: Don't know Johnson t Max for sure, I'm putting in there.
Speaker 4: You might have said it ray Allen, Like, how are
Speaker 4: you gonna argue with that? Because he did he did
Speaker 4: it two ways. He did it with like, I'm a
Speaker 4: dunk on you, I'm a.
Speaker 1: What about Vince Carter? I'm good? No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: love get on his ass, hold on fect.
Speaker 3: This one of the greatest.
Speaker 1: Like, I'm not going backwards. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3: Rare is fucking Regie Miller your top five. He didn't
Speaker 3: make it.
Speaker 1: It's hard to make it.
Speaker 3: No, are you out of pocket?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Cal for coming on the five podcast.
Speaker 1: Make Top five Shooting Guards.
Speaker 3: Make sure you pull it to the Dizzey run hold on.
Speaker 2: It's got Cobe, Mike d Way reality teammate with that
Speaker 2: I liked, I'm not taking Yeah, I'm not taking team.
Speaker 4: The interviews with Kobe and t MA talking about like
Speaker 4: there's like they say, teammates.
Speaker 1: The only one could ever beat Kobe one on one
Speaker 1: type like, yeah, I respect that.
Speaker 3: You, but that's your five.
Speaker 4: Player of all times, Kevin Garnett.
Speaker 1: So like, I don't damn interesting. That's that's all right
Speaker 1: because because when.
Speaker 4: I was younger, I told you I couldn't shoot. I
Speaker 4: was a little I was like six ft.
Speaker 6: Like team back and no school KG like he was
Speaker 6: a stretch forward too, And this was you should have
Speaker 6: my games.
Speaker 1: My KG like it was easy, like the fire he plays.
Speaker 1: You think KG better than Tim Duncan. Yeah, in this conversation,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: Damn you out of pocket.
Speaker 1: The U s A.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 3: He was crazy.
Speaker 1: He was going crazy in this conversation. We're talking about
Speaker 1: best basketball.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but you're so young. So you was doing
Speaker 3: like this with your race card room on the carpet
Speaker 3: when they was really killing back in the day, I
Speaker 3: was Tim Duncan used to put on the they were
Speaker 3: in their prime and like KG is more exciting. KG
Speaker 3: is more excited. That's what I'm saying, bro you were.
Speaker 1: Still he was watching? Did you mind?
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 1: Bros?
Speaker 2: For real, Broim is better than all the kids nowadays
Speaker 2: are saying Paul Georgia like is their goat?
Speaker 3: That's tight?
Speaker 2: That's respected to PG, but that was he's out of pocket.
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of yeah, you think, all right,
Speaker 1: that's my last question, then we can go ahead and
Speaker 1: wrap it up. We think, Steph, did you have the
Speaker 1: guard Steph?
Speaker 2: I did you?
Speaker 1: Did you have to guard Curry?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: No? Okay? Ron Ship and Dame Dame?
Speaker 2: Okay, Guy Dame or Steph was harder to guard Dame
Speaker 2: because Steph when he does he does the floppy actions
Speaker 2: and ship like I do that, So I haven't I
Speaker 2: know how to guard it a little bit and I
Speaker 2: never had.
Speaker 4: The people will give me trouble is like C. J. McCollum,
Speaker 4: shake Gill just.
Speaker 1: People would handle, not just handled.
Speaker 2: I'm saying they got that, but like you don't know
Speaker 2: what they're about to do, like you have no clue
Speaker 2: and the changing place is crazy and Dame has a
Speaker 2: little bit of that, so him for sure was harder
Speaker 2: to guard for me. Yeah, but again Stephani pull from
Speaker 2: half court, you can't. Yeah, I think xanders the top
Speaker 2: of my guard.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think he's cold too. It's hard for me to
Speaker 2: It was hard for me to guard stuff because he
Speaker 2: ran so much. Like I could guard you if you
Speaker 2: just do this, I'm cool with that, but when you
Speaker 2: start running around, that's why ain't like guarden Dame either.
Speaker 2: Like Dame didn't really pack the ball because he had
Speaker 2: passed it and play off then play with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just straight that's crazy, mind. I was, I was.
Speaker 3: Repeat what you're saying, got it living in the churches.
Speaker 1: But like Dame can like play both ways. Like it's like,
Speaker 1: that's crazy.
Speaker 3: We ain't trying to call you on the show, bro.
Speaker 1: Dame Cole.
Speaker 2: It's always been a toss up between him and Kyrie
Speaker 2: for me, like who I thought, No, listen, they both goats,
Speaker 2: but I never could tell you who was better because
Speaker 2: they both killed. They both killed, they both get forty,
Speaker 2: they both averaged twenty eight. But Dame was always like not.
Speaker 1: Like CJ. He cold too, But you Kyrie by himself.
Speaker 1: I ain't doing that. My favorite player.
Speaker 2: When Kyrie was playing, especially in his primary he was
Speaker 2: on the teams he had Lebron and that team. Then
Speaker 2: he went to Boston and had other good players, and
Speaker 2: then even when he was in Brooklyn who he was
Speaker 2: playing with. So yeah, Kyrie is still Kyrie. He's still
Speaker 2: a guy, but he was still playing with people who
Speaker 2: were on the level as he was. Dame didn't have
Speaker 2: somebody who was on his level. McCullum is a really
Speaker 2: good borderline All star NBA player, but he wasn't on
Speaker 2: He wasn't a superstar like Dame. But I would love
Speaker 2: to see Dame with that, and I don't know how
Speaker 2: he would respond because I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you wait, you.
Speaker 2: Think he's gonna happen, but I don't know if like
Speaker 2: I can't put I never seen I know Dame is
Speaker 2: that good, Like I know he's great, I know he's
Speaker 2: a goat, but I never seen him on that level
Speaker 2: like I seen Kyrie when he was going against Stephanim
Speaker 2: Like I seen Kyrie like one of.
Speaker 1: The best basketball performances.
Speaker 2: Give me that ball, Brian, like Brian, get me the
Speaker 2: rock like So that's why I know he's so cold
Speaker 2: like them two right there, they just different him, Steph
Speaker 2: and Russ.
Speaker 3: Was crazy that Steph comparison with that.
Speaker 2: And before we get out of here, to one thing,
Speaker 2: I didn't like what people responded about when we talked
Speaker 2: about c P three and Russ. Hey, we got respect
Speaker 2: for CP three. We know how good CP there is
Speaker 2: first ballace. Please do not underestimate how good Russell Westbrook
Speaker 2: was in his fucking problem. I know that Lakers ship
Speaker 2: got y'all talking crazy, but okay, see Russ when he
Speaker 2: was there by himself was a fucking problem.
Speaker 1: Now Russ killed.
Speaker 2: Everybody, So it's literally no, I don't even even pay
Speaker 2: attention to people talk about Russ like Kyrie, Russ, Steph Dame,
Speaker 2: they all was on a different plateau like CP. At
Speaker 2: one time he was up there with him. But as
Speaker 2: CP got older, he just wasn't the same. He just
Speaker 2: wasn't the same.
Speaker 3: Fact New Orleans c P or Darren williams Utah Jazz
Speaker 3: d Will Will was a nasty bro was this is
Speaker 3: a real c P or d Will with the Utah
Speaker 3: for real Will d.
Speaker 2: Will in Utah was crazy crazy that he so strong
Speaker 2: athletic and he could shoot.
Speaker 3: Before he threw the ball at Gordon. That CP, I
Speaker 3: mean that.
Speaker 1: Will they both? Was he got Jerry Sloan, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: both was a leade, though a tough one though c
Speaker 1: P was man. I went to wait for it because
Speaker 1: of C c.
Speaker 3: P with Tyson Chandler and d West.
Speaker 1: Bro And people forget that. I don't because he was
Speaker 1: my favorite player until I got older.
Speaker 3: So what all right? I got this, all right, we'll
Speaker 3: we'll do a duo c P, David West, Darren Williams,
Speaker 3: Andre Carolinko. Carolyn was your.
Speaker 1: Forty wieling boo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you take.
Speaker 2: Them. If what I rather have, I'm taking David West.
Speaker 2: But if you're going off basically, actually, now I gotta
Speaker 2: go c P and d West. Now I'm thinking about
Speaker 2: I got to. Yeah, I didn't go on c but
Speaker 2: them having Tyson Chiller make a difference to because he
Speaker 2: had Cord back there.
Speaker 1: MA was fired.
Speaker 2: Bro, he went better. He was the first stretch five, Bro,
Speaker 2: he was better. We're gonna talk basketball, let's talk for
Speaker 2: man was the first stretch he was.
Speaker 1: He was really good.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: He was cold. Bro. I don't like this. I don't
Speaker 1: like talking real bad.
Speaker 3: I know we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't do this. We don't do this. He was
Speaker 1: really cold though, Like, let's not get he was five bro.
Speaker 2: Yes he was, he was he could Who was better
Speaker 2: him and my boy friend the Clippers Lumberjack Chris Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh was a post player.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Cambe was. Didn't rebound like Chris. Chris camber
Speaker 3: was twelve rebounds a game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was twenty was the.
Speaker 4: Dude that like was sleep on the bench, not sleep
Speaker 4: but laying Yeah, allegations.
Speaker 2: The game watching I told you watch watch you before
Speaker 2: we get out of here. Man, talk a little bit
Speaker 2: more about the Disney runs. Man telling people what they
Speaker 2: can pull up and support.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: We do it up in Noblesville at Modo Sports Complex
Speaker 4: in Indiana. It's, uh, we do it kind of a
Speaker 4: U style. Like I said, I grew up watching dudes
Speaker 4: like Jeff and and Mok and all them. So I
Speaker 4: liked being able to see everybody like play basketball at
Speaker 4: the same time. And like you go from this court
Speaker 4: and he's hooping, someone gets duncked on over here, you
Speaker 4: run over to her the court. So we go three
Speaker 4: games at once, and then we have a night game
Speaker 4: like the Premier game where we try to bring I
Speaker 4: stacked those teams with the best players.
Speaker 2: You get out of it.
Speaker 1: So, which do you play time every week? No? No,
Speaker 1: I don't do a good job doing.
Speaker 3: That ball.
Speaker 1: I get. He definitely gets some prontime games.
Speaker 4: But on yours, yeah, he quit because he was doing
Speaker 4: that work.
Speaker 3: Yeah work.
Speaker 2: Get the fact that is the fact that we played
Speaker 2: every prome time game. I played that eight every time
Speaker 2: on yours, I bro, I played that every single time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But it's really a dope, a dope run, and it's free.
Speaker 2: It's a good atmosphere, bro. Basketball atmosphere is really dope though. Absolutely.
Speaker 2: On that note, we're gonna get up out of here.
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