1 00:00:04,835 --> 00:00:21,875 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Yeah, 2 00:00:21,915 --> 00:00:24,875 Speaker 1: I heard it too. I heard him say maybe he 3 00:00:24,875 --> 00:00:27,475 Speaker 1: should never have left office. I heard him say at 4 00:00:27,475 --> 00:00:30,235 Speaker 1: his rally that he wouldn't mind people shooting at the 5 00:00:30,275 --> 00:00:34,275 Speaker 1: reporters covering his rally, And I guess it's shocking, except 6 00:00:34,275 --> 00:00:37,595 Speaker 1: he's been saying those things a little bit more coded 7 00:00:38,755 --> 00:00:43,515 Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen and twenty twenty, respectively. And he said 8 00:00:43,595 --> 00:00:46,955 Speaker 1: the thing about shooting about Liz Cheney last Thursday night, 9 00:00:47,075 --> 00:00:49,195 Speaker 1: And after all, he is going through what the shrinks 10 00:00:49,235 --> 00:00:53,555 Speaker 1: call disinhibition at the rallies, where he loses all sense 11 00:00:53,595 --> 00:00:55,635 Speaker 1: of what he should say in private not public. And 12 00:00:55,675 --> 00:00:58,515 Speaker 1: he talks about the size of Arnold Palmer's putter, and 13 00:00:58,555 --> 00:01:00,795 Speaker 1: he tries to make a joke about his grabbing them 14 00:01:00,915 --> 00:01:04,595 Speaker 1: access Hollywood tape, ha ha, and he simulates oral se 15 00:01:04,915 --> 00:01:07,715 Speaker 1: with the microphone, and yeah, back on Earth one, that's 16 00:01:07,795 --> 00:01:13,395 Speaker 1: still all shocking. But that's not what got me. On 17 00:01:13,475 --> 00:01:16,515 Speaker 1: the Sunday before the election, I heard something I have 18 00:01:16,755 --> 00:01:21,275 Speaker 1: never heard before from Trump when he said he wouldn't 19 00:01:21,315 --> 00:01:26,555 Speaker 1: mind people shooting the press. He said he wouldn't mind 20 00:01:26,595 --> 00:01:35,555 Speaker 1: them shooting through the press through it at him, shooting 21 00:01:36,155 --> 00:01:44,595 Speaker 1: at him? Doesn't that sound kind of what's the word suicidal? 22 00:01:44,995 --> 00:01:49,075 Speaker 2: I have a piece of glass over here, and I 23 00:01:49,115 --> 00:01:55,555 Speaker 2: don't have a piece of glass there, and I have 24 00:01:55,755 --> 00:02:00,315 Speaker 2: this piece of glass here, But all we have really 25 00:02:00,355 --> 00:02:02,155 Speaker 2: over here is the fake news. 26 00:02:01,875 --> 00:02:11,595 Speaker 3: Man, And to get me, somebody would have to shoot 27 00:02:11,635 --> 00:02:13,955 Speaker 3: through the fake news. 28 00:02:16,275 --> 00:02:17,835 Speaker 2: And I don't mind that so much. 29 00:02:17,995 --> 00:02:20,435 Speaker 1: Just I don't mind. 30 00:02:21,795 --> 00:02:22,435 Speaker 2: I don't mind that. 31 00:02:24,235 --> 00:02:28,355 Speaker 1: I mean, even within the boundaries of the wildest conspiracies. 32 00:02:29,235 --> 00:02:32,515 Speaker 1: At Butler, a maga gun nut did shoot at Trump. 33 00:02:32,555 --> 00:02:35,355 Speaker 1: This man has been shot or shot at and he's saying, well, 34 00:02:35,395 --> 00:02:37,075 Speaker 1: if you're gonna shoot at me again, at least he'll 35 00:02:37,075 --> 00:02:41,715 Speaker 1: be through my enemies. That's insanity. I mean, even compared 36 00:02:41,715 --> 00:02:47,635 Speaker 1: to a traditional Trump that's insanity. Plus again, I understand 37 00:02:47,675 --> 00:02:50,115 Speaker 1: that we are inside the forty eight hour bubble before 38 00:02:50,155 --> 00:02:52,675 Speaker 1: the election, and the pressure in here is like eight 39 00:02:52,755 --> 00:02:56,995 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven atmospheric units, and our rage against 40 00:02:57,035 --> 00:03:00,475 Speaker 1: this creature and his cult that wants to burn this 41 00:03:00,555 --> 00:03:03,955 Speaker 1: country to the ground, that wants to burn this world 42 00:03:03,995 --> 00:03:06,515 Speaker 1: to the ground, and our amazement that there is anybody 43 00:03:06,595 --> 00:03:09,635 Speaker 1: voting for him, that that rage is at unbearable levels. 44 00:03:10,115 --> 00:03:15,875 Speaker 1: But didn't he sound kind of dead yesterday too. I'm 45 00:03:15,875 --> 00:03:20,715 Speaker 1: not really daydreaming here or trying to express wish fulfillment. 46 00:03:20,795 --> 00:03:24,235 Speaker 1: But Christ, listen to him. Listen to how he says 47 00:03:24,915 --> 00:03:28,795 Speaker 1: I'm smart. In this next clip, he sounds utterly defeated. 48 00:03:29,315 --> 00:03:31,795 Speaker 1: He sounds like the life is draining out of him. 49 00:03:31,915 --> 00:03:35,155 Speaker 1: In fact, what he sounds like is he sounds exactly 50 00:03:35,235 --> 00:03:38,035 Speaker 1: like how the computer in the movie two thousand and 51 00:03:38,075 --> 00:03:40,035 Speaker 1: one when they unplugged him. 52 00:03:40,395 --> 00:03:43,595 Speaker 2: I'm a pretty smart guy. I have genetic Do you 53 00:03:43,635 --> 00:03:47,475 Speaker 2: believe in genetics? I do you know? Fast race sources 54 00:03:47,635 --> 00:03:49,875 Speaker 2: produce fast race sources. 55 00:03:49,395 --> 00:03:50,475 Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not. 56 00:03:51,995 --> 00:03:57,675 Speaker 2: But I'm a very I believe in it, and I'm smart. 57 00:03:58,355 --> 00:04:00,475 Speaker 1: I mean, I would not have been surprised if Trump 58 00:04:00,475 --> 00:04:06,115 Speaker 1: had then started to sing Dasy days give me your 59 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:13,155 Speaker 1: On the other hand, if in June you were leading 60 00:04:13,195 --> 00:04:17,435 Speaker 1: the most reliable, most revered state poll in the nation, 61 00:04:17,875 --> 00:04:21,715 Speaker 1: the Selleser Poll in Iowa, by eighteen points, and even 62 00:04:21,755 --> 00:04:24,235 Speaker 1: on September fifteenth, you were still leading the Sealeser poll 63 00:04:24,275 --> 00:04:27,395 Speaker 1: in Iowa by four points, and three nights before the election, 64 00:04:27,435 --> 00:04:31,195 Speaker 1: suddenly you're losing the Selleser poll in Iowa by three points, 65 00:04:31,435 --> 00:04:35,835 Speaker 1: you'd be singing, Daisy two, I'm afraid Milagna, Milaennia. My 66 00:04:35,955 --> 00:04:37,915 Speaker 1: lead is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. 67 00:04:37,955 --> 00:04:40,755 Speaker 1: There is no question about it. I can feel it. 68 00:04:42,755 --> 00:04:44,715 Speaker 1: I have a lot to say about the Iowa poll 69 00:04:44,715 --> 00:04:46,635 Speaker 1: and the polls in general in a moment. But let's 70 00:04:46,675 --> 00:04:50,995 Speaker 1: not leave this issue of cheap, amateur psychoanalysis here just yet. 71 00:04:51,675 --> 00:04:54,395 Speaker 1: I mean, in the midst of these tons of pressure, 72 00:04:54,835 --> 00:04:58,275 Speaker 1: we sometimes forget this. But if Trump does not win, 73 00:04:58,435 --> 00:05:02,555 Speaker 1: or does not stage an armed, violent revolution to regain power, 74 00:05:02,835 --> 00:05:07,035 Speaker 1: he is going to jail. He is going to die there. 75 00:05:08,595 --> 00:05:11,115 Speaker 1: And I don't know how many others in this campaign 76 00:05:11,155 --> 00:05:14,195 Speaker 1: will go to jail. And I do not know what 77 00:05:14,315 --> 00:05:17,795 Speaker 1: happens inside a brain that has lived seventy eight years 78 00:05:17,795 --> 00:05:21,475 Speaker 1: inside a fantasy of his and his mother's creation, and 79 00:05:21,595 --> 00:05:25,315 Speaker 1: never truly been challenged by reality or merely by greater force. 80 00:05:25,635 --> 00:05:28,875 Speaker 1: What happens to that brain when it must contend with 81 00:05:28,955 --> 00:05:33,315 Speaker 1: the prospect that all of this could happen, or most 82 00:05:33,435 --> 00:05:38,035 Speaker 1: likely will happen, or is happening right now. According to 83 00:05:38,115 --> 00:05:42,995 Speaker 1: Trump internal polling, almost alone in prominent polling, The New 84 00:05:43,075 --> 00:05:46,195 Speaker 1: York Times Siena poll has him alive in the swing states, 85 00:05:46,395 --> 00:05:49,755 Speaker 1: tied in Michigan and Pennsylvania, ahead in Arizona, and his 86 00:05:49,915 --> 00:05:53,435 Speaker 1: campaign promptly responded to that yesterday by issuing a statement 87 00:05:54,275 --> 00:05:59,155 Speaker 1: accusing The Times of promulgating a quote voter suppression poll 88 00:05:59,755 --> 00:06:05,835 Speaker 1: designed to dampen his voter's enthusiasm. Siena pol is his 89 00:06:05,955 --> 00:06:10,595 Speaker 1: best poll right now. So what's the translation of that? Well, 90 00:06:10,635 --> 00:06:13,355 Speaker 1: they needed that poll from the Times to claim he's 91 00:06:13,395 --> 00:06:18,195 Speaker 1: ahead in Michigan and Pennsylvania and everywhere else, because clearly 92 00:06:18,635 --> 00:06:25,275 Speaker 1: he's not. There are very bad things happening inside Trump 93 00:06:25,355 --> 00:06:29,875 Speaker 1: world right now, and inside Trump I mean like things 94 00:06:29,915 --> 00:06:35,075 Speaker 1: that happen inside bridges when they collapse. I mean yesterday, 95 00:06:35,195 --> 00:06:38,435 Speaker 1: late yesterday in Kinston, North Carolina, Trump told the crowd 96 00:06:38,475 --> 00:06:41,955 Speaker 1: they had a great Republican Senate candidate there, David McCormick. 97 00:06:42,955 --> 00:06:49,035 Speaker 1: David McCormick is the Senate candidate in Pennsylvania. I can't 98 00:06:49,035 --> 00:06:51,795 Speaker 1: get past how he sounded yesterday. How his statement about 99 00:06:51,795 --> 00:06:54,515 Speaker 1: the quote fake news unquote did indeed include a not 100 00:06:54,635 --> 00:06:57,875 Speaker 1: at all hidden stochastic call for people to murder news 101 00:06:57,915 --> 00:07:04,915 Speaker 1: reporters but by shooting through them at him. You know 102 00:07:04,995 --> 00:07:08,595 Speaker 1: the old joke about the circular firing squad. Even a 103 00:07:08,635 --> 00:07:11,995 Speaker 1: madman would recognize that Trump has proposed something worse than 104 00:07:12,035 --> 00:07:15,715 Speaker 1: a circular firing squad. He's proposed standing behind the guys 105 00:07:15,715 --> 00:07:20,275 Speaker 1: the firing squad is aiming at. Even a madman would 106 00:07:20,275 --> 00:07:22,915 Speaker 1: recognize that the odds would be pretty good that whatever 107 00:07:22,955 --> 00:07:26,475 Speaker 1: happened to the reporters who were shot through, Trump would 108 00:07:26,515 --> 00:07:31,675 Speaker 1: also get shot. I think this is going to be 109 00:07:31,755 --> 00:07:34,115 Speaker 1: one of those episodes of this podcast in which I 110 00:07:34,195 --> 00:07:37,315 Speaker 1: inundate you with pop culture references from forty years ago. 111 00:07:37,395 --> 00:07:40,075 Speaker 1: But here's a slightly more recent one, and it's probably 112 00:07:40,115 --> 00:07:44,555 Speaker 1: one you don't know about. You may recall House of Cards, 113 00:07:45,155 --> 00:07:49,155 Speaker 1: which was very entertaining until they abandoned the speed and 114 00:07:49,235 --> 00:07:52,155 Speaker 1: intensity of the original British version with the late great 115 00:07:52,195 --> 00:07:55,755 Speaker 1: Ian Richardson, and slowed down the series to a ratio 116 00:07:55,875 --> 00:08:00,035 Speaker 1: of about one minute of show per one minute of 117 00:08:00,075 --> 00:08:03,555 Speaker 1: real life. You know, next week in episode eight hundred 118 00:08:03,555 --> 00:08:07,755 Speaker 1: and ninety seven, the President say, and of course then 119 00:08:07,795 --> 00:08:11,315 Speaker 1: there was the whole Evan k ac Spey thing. But 120 00:08:11,515 --> 00:08:14,475 Speaker 1: in the original book. This is the point in the 121 00:08:14,515 --> 00:08:17,995 Speaker 1: original book on which both the British and American series 122 00:08:18,035 --> 00:08:20,595 Speaker 1: are based, and the book is not that great. Actually, 123 00:08:20,715 --> 00:08:25,435 Speaker 1: the British TV series is perfect. In the book, the 124 00:08:25,475 --> 00:08:28,995 Speaker 1: psychotic Prime Minister with murder in his soul does not 125 00:08:29,315 --> 00:08:32,875 Speaker 1: kill the reporter and does not throw her to her death, 126 00:08:33,035 --> 00:08:36,475 Speaker 1: but in fact gets caught, and the story ends with 127 00:08:36,595 --> 00:08:42,555 Speaker 1: him jumping from a courtyard high atop the houses of Parliament, 128 00:08:43,115 --> 00:08:50,155 Speaker 1: but not before lighting himself on fire. I'm not sure 129 00:08:50,195 --> 00:08:52,235 Speaker 1: what kind of betting odds you can get on that 130 00:08:52,435 --> 00:09:05,555 Speaker 1: from polymarket. Right now, there is a day minus won 131 00:09:05,595 --> 00:09:09,515 Speaker 1: the most extraordinary of ironies. The New York Times leads 132 00:09:09,555 --> 00:09:13,515 Speaker 1: its Trump coverage by making something Trump said into far 133 00:09:13,555 --> 00:09:17,955 Speaker 1: more than I think he meant. Quote. Former President Donald J. 134 00:09:18,075 --> 00:09:21,075 Speaker 1: Trump told supporters on Sunday that he shouldn't have left 135 00:09:21,195 --> 00:09:22,955 Speaker 1: the White House at the end of his term during 136 00:09:22,995 --> 00:09:27,355 Speaker 1: an end of campaign rally. Michael Gold and Maggie Haberman 137 00:09:27,435 --> 00:09:31,115 Speaker 1: wrote that, and I am ever more convinced after reading 138 00:09:31,115 --> 00:09:32,875 Speaker 1: it that the bottom line for both of them is 139 00:09:33,115 --> 00:09:37,635 Speaker 1: they are not that smart. They just aren't. Yes, this 140 00:09:37,795 --> 00:09:41,675 Speaker 1: is me defending what Trump said about how he shouldn't 141 00:09:41,715 --> 00:09:43,875 Speaker 1: have left the White House when his term ended. This 142 00:09:44,035 --> 00:09:48,675 Speaker 1: is me sane washing Trump. He meant he shouldn't have left, 143 00:09:49,635 --> 00:09:52,395 Speaker 1: like he shouldn't have been voted out, or he shouldn't 144 00:09:52,435 --> 00:09:55,555 Speaker 1: have been forced to leave, or I mean in terms 145 00:09:55,555 --> 00:09:59,795 Speaker 1: of insurrection and coup and revolution and dictatorship. He says 146 00:09:59,835 --> 00:10:03,075 Speaker 1: twenty three things a day far worse than this. 147 00:10:03,555 --> 00:10:05,555 Speaker 2: Who we had the safest in the history of our 148 00:10:05,595 --> 00:10:08,835 Speaker 2: country the day that I left. I shouldn't have left, 149 00:10:08,915 --> 00:10:12,435 Speaker 2: I mean honestly, because we did so we did so well. 150 00:10:12,595 --> 00:10:15,795 Speaker 1: But that goes into the New York Times for all time. 151 00:10:15,875 --> 00:10:18,475 Speaker 1: Out of the headline, Trump tell supporters he shouldn't have 152 00:10:18,555 --> 00:10:21,755 Speaker 1: left the White House. And if you didn't hear or 153 00:10:21,795 --> 00:10:24,475 Speaker 1: see that clip, you would never know there was any 154 00:10:24,555 --> 00:10:28,635 Speaker 1: context to it whatsoever. So maybe this is the Times 155 00:10:28,675 --> 00:10:32,195 Speaker 1: attempt at to make good after a decade of adding 156 00:10:33,315 --> 00:10:36,755 Speaker 1: context and caveats to Trump's madness that didn't exist and 157 00:10:36,795 --> 00:10:40,555 Speaker 1: he didn't deserve own. CNN did it too. They wrote 158 00:10:40,555 --> 00:10:43,355 Speaker 1: the article as well, says he shouldn't have left the 159 00:10:43,355 --> 00:10:46,275 Speaker 1: White House. So now it's official that's what he said. 160 00:10:48,315 --> 00:10:54,835 Speaker 1: Can't win them all, don So to summarize the Trump 161 00:10:55,035 --> 00:11:01,035 Speaker 1: closing argument as publicly perceived is, please shoot reporters, even 162 00:11:01,035 --> 00:11:04,515 Speaker 1: if that means shooting me. And I want to see 163 00:11:04,835 --> 00:11:07,875 Speaker 1: is Cheney with nine guns firing pointed at her face. 164 00:11:08,355 --> 00:11:11,515 Speaker 1: And Porto Rico is garbage. And when I tried to 165 00:11:11,675 --> 00:11:14,435 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu the garbage image into a bloody shirt. From 166 00:11:14,435 --> 00:11:17,355 Speaker 1: my side, I couldn't manage to find the handle on 167 00:11:17,435 --> 00:11:21,195 Speaker 1: the garbage truck door. And Arnold Palmer never had a 168 00:11:21,235 --> 00:11:24,795 Speaker 1: short game, and watch as I fell out my microphone 169 00:11:25,155 --> 00:11:27,555 Speaker 1: a week after I made a joke on this topic 170 00:11:27,595 --> 00:11:32,275 Speaker 1: about Kamala Harris and the crazy general and doctor Strangelove 171 00:11:32,555 --> 00:11:36,075 Speaker 1: who started nuclear war against Russia because he believed fluoridation 172 00:11:36,235 --> 00:11:41,075 Speaker 1: of the water supply was a communist plot. Was right. 173 00:11:41,355 --> 00:11:44,955 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let RFK Junior and floridation and vaccination 174 00:11:46,355 --> 00:11:48,755 Speaker 1: all get together in the same place where RFK will 175 00:11:48,875 --> 00:11:52,235 Speaker 1: end them all. And he in fact and every aation 176 00:11:52,435 --> 00:11:58,515 Speaker 1: except FaceTime masturbation. And I shouldn't have left the White 177 00:11:58,515 --> 00:12:05,515 Speaker 1: House even after I lost the election. I can't imagine 178 00:12:05,755 --> 00:12:18,235 Speaker 1: where his poll lead went in Iowa after that. Okay, 179 00:12:18,275 --> 00:12:20,995 Speaker 1: about the polls before we go back to the Iowa Shaker. 180 00:12:21,115 --> 00:12:25,235 Speaker 1: Last polls from Pennsylvania Muhlenberg College Harris forty nine, Trump 181 00:12:25,315 --> 00:12:30,115 Speaker 1: forty seven, Marrist also Harris by two times, Sienna tied 182 00:12:31,235 --> 00:12:35,915 Speaker 1: and they're angry about it. Ohio Miami University poll. Trump 183 00:12:35,955 --> 00:12:41,195 Speaker 1: is only up by three Florida before Tony winch Slip 184 00:12:41,275 --> 00:12:44,355 Speaker 1: or whatever his name was. In October, Trump led Harris 185 00:12:44,395 --> 00:12:47,555 Speaker 1: among Hispanic voters in Florida forty eight to forty one. 186 00:12:47,835 --> 00:12:52,475 Speaker 1: She now leads him eighty five to eight. So those 187 00:12:52,715 --> 00:12:57,995 Speaker 1: quote jokes we could go yesterday, those quote jokes unquote, 188 00:12:58,035 --> 00:13:02,195 Speaker 1: they cost him fifty two points among all Hispanic voters 189 00:13:02,235 --> 00:13:08,435 Speaker 1: in Florida. The numbers in Pennsylvania and the other states 190 00:13:08,555 --> 00:13:15,795 Speaker 1: with large Puerto Rican populations. Scheduling Saturday, yesterday and today 191 00:13:15,835 --> 00:13:19,275 Speaker 1: ten stops by Trump. Four in North Carolina. Their internals 192 00:13:19,275 --> 00:13:23,915 Speaker 1: in North Carolina are bad and they weren't helped when 193 00:13:23,915 --> 00:13:25,555 Speaker 1: it was clear he did not know he was in 194 00:13:25,595 --> 00:13:29,755 Speaker 1: North Carolina. And you've heard the bluster that he went 195 00:13:29,795 --> 00:13:32,035 Speaker 1: to Colorado and New Mexico. He went to Colorado and 196 00:13:32,075 --> 00:13:35,875 Speaker 1: New Mexico. He's expanding his maps. Their internals indicate they 197 00:13:35,875 --> 00:13:38,595 Speaker 1: have a chance in Colorado and New Mexico. Axios reports 198 00:13:38,595 --> 00:13:41,355 Speaker 1: he went to Aurora and Albuquerque. Quote not because his 199 00:13:41,435 --> 00:13:44,635 Speaker 1: team thinks he'll win Colorado or New Mexico, but because 200 00:13:44,955 --> 00:13:51,155 Speaker 1: he liked the backdrops. To talk about illegal immigration? Is 201 00:13:51,195 --> 00:13:58,275 Speaker 1: it loll or Lowell? Now Iowa and that poll and 202 00:13:58,315 --> 00:14:01,875 Speaker 1: the credibility of the polster and sells her. She only 203 00:14:01,915 --> 00:14:06,675 Speaker 1: does Iowa polls. She doesn't do weighted polls, she doesn't subtract. 204 00:14:06,755 --> 00:14:09,275 Speaker 1: She asks a bunch of people based on how they 205 00:14:09,315 --> 00:14:12,435 Speaker 1: fit into the demographics of Iowa and its voting patterns 206 00:14:12,475 --> 00:14:16,275 Speaker 1: and its concerns. And she's the one who insisted that 207 00:14:16,435 --> 00:14:21,515 Speaker 1: first time voters would dominate the Iowa Democratic caucuses like 208 00:14:21,595 --> 00:14:25,955 Speaker 1: by sixty percent, and they would create a world changing upset. 209 00:14:26,035 --> 00:14:28,355 Speaker 1: This was in the year two thousand and eight. The 210 00:14:28,475 --> 00:14:32,715 Speaker 1: upsetee was Hillary Clinton and the upset tour was Barack Obama. 211 00:14:32,755 --> 00:14:36,955 Speaker 1: And the rest is and sells are getting almost everything right. 212 00:14:37,155 --> 00:14:41,195 Speaker 1: Since her last poll for the Iowa Senate twenty twenty two, 213 00:14:41,195 --> 00:14:44,595 Speaker 1: the Republican by twelve and the Republican won by twelve. 214 00:14:44,635 --> 00:14:46,755 Speaker 1: For the presidency in twenty twenty, she had Trump winning 215 00:14:46,755 --> 00:14:50,115 Speaker 1: Iowa by seven. He won by eight. Iowa Senate twenty 216 00:14:50,155 --> 00:14:53,835 Speaker 1: twenty Republican by four. It was Republican by seven. Governor 217 00:14:53,875 --> 00:14:56,355 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, she messed up. She had the Democrat 218 00:14:56,395 --> 00:14:59,795 Speaker 1: winning by two and the Democrat lost by three twenty 219 00:14:59,835 --> 00:15:03,515 Speaker 1: sixteen presidency, though Trump by seven was Trump by nine 220 00:15:04,355 --> 00:15:07,995 Speaker 1: fourteen Senate Republican by seven, it was Republican by eight. 221 00:15:08,035 --> 00:15:10,995 Speaker 1: Twenty twelve president, she had Obama by five. He won 222 00:15:11,035 --> 00:15:13,275 Speaker 1: Iowa by six, and we know about two thousand and eight. 223 00:15:13,555 --> 00:15:17,075 Speaker 1: Ann Selzer is the best polster in the nation. They 224 00:15:17,115 --> 00:15:19,915 Speaker 1: wrote at Nate Silver's five thirty eight dot com in 225 00:15:19,915 --> 00:15:25,635 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. She started polling neighborhood moms when she was five, 226 00:15:26,395 --> 00:15:31,715 Speaker 1: asking them whether a family nickname was insulting to her. 227 00:15:32,475 --> 00:15:35,355 Speaker 1: But of course, now Nate Silver, who doesn't work for 228 00:15:35,395 --> 00:15:39,355 Speaker 1: five thirty eight anymore, dismisses Ann Selzer as an outlier, 229 00:15:40,155 --> 00:15:43,955 Speaker 1: and other experts insist no swing state swings so dramatically 230 00:15:44,035 --> 00:15:46,755 Speaker 1: in a presidential race in one cycle like she's now 231 00:15:46,795 --> 00:15:49,755 Speaker 1: predicting in Iowa, even though, as I just mentioned, Obama 232 00:15:49,795 --> 00:15:52,755 Speaker 1: won Iowa by six in twenty twelve and then Trump 233 00:15:52,835 --> 00:15:55,475 Speaker 1: won it by nine in twenty sixteen, which seems to 234 00:15:55,515 --> 00:15:58,195 Speaker 1: me like a swing of fifteen points in one cycle. 235 00:15:59,595 --> 00:16:03,235 Speaker 1: Besides which, as always, it really is the interior numbers 236 00:16:03,275 --> 00:16:07,835 Speaker 1: that matter most. Here, Selzer has Harris leading among women 237 00:16:08,275 --> 00:16:13,075 Speaker 1: in perhaps the whitest, most Midwestern state. We have by 238 00:16:13,115 --> 00:16:18,835 Speaker 1: twenty points. That suggests an undercurrent of undying rage against 239 00:16:18,835 --> 00:16:22,595 Speaker 1: the Roe v. Wade reversal and the Trump handmaid's tail 240 00:16:22,755 --> 00:16:25,995 Speaker 1: campaign that we have not seen show up per se 241 00:16:26,555 --> 00:16:30,955 Speaker 1: in any polling, only in every vote since the Supreme 242 00:16:30,995 --> 00:16:34,155 Speaker 1: Court did what it did. She has found it and 243 00:16:34,235 --> 00:16:39,795 Speaker 1: quantified it, and the number is two zero. Politico then adds, 244 00:16:39,835 --> 00:16:43,915 Speaker 1: in most Unpolitico fashion, that the poll quote also shows 245 00:16:43,995 --> 00:16:47,155 Speaker 1: voter sixty five and older, a block that typically favors Republicans, 246 00:16:47,395 --> 00:16:52,115 Speaker 1: breaking for Harris. That's particularly true among senior women, who 247 00:16:52,195 --> 00:16:54,355 Speaker 1: the survey found supporting Harris by more than two to 248 00:16:54,395 --> 00:16:58,275 Speaker 1: one compared to senior men, who favor her by just 249 00:16:58,355 --> 00:17:03,475 Speaker 1: two points. That jibs with the Harris campaign's internal research, 250 00:17:03,835 --> 00:17:06,475 Speaker 1: which shows the VP continuing to make gains with women 251 00:17:06,475 --> 00:17:09,755 Speaker 1: and inroads with seniors, according to a senior campaign official 252 00:17:09,755 --> 00:17:13,155 Speaker 1: granted anonymity to discuss the private data, and it builds 253 00:17:13,235 --> 00:17:16,315 Speaker 1: upon other positive signs. Harris's team has seen at this 254 00:17:16,435 --> 00:17:19,595 Speaker 1: late stage that the split screen between Harris's focus and 255 00:17:19,715 --> 00:17:25,715 Speaker 1: forward looking closing message and Trump's discursive in person appearances, 256 00:17:27,475 --> 00:17:30,395 Speaker 1: which veer widely away from the discipline message of his 257 00:17:30,475 --> 00:17:33,595 Speaker 1: campaign's TV ads and the remarks loaded onto his teleprompters 258 00:17:33,795 --> 00:17:38,035 Speaker 1: is helping to drive late deciding voters to her side. 259 00:17:38,595 --> 00:17:41,035 Speaker 1: She's talking about issues and how crazy he is, and 260 00:17:41,075 --> 00:17:43,115 Speaker 1: he's saying, it's okay if you want to shoot me, 261 00:17:43,155 --> 00:17:48,875 Speaker 1: but shoot those reporters first. I have been hearing this 262 00:17:48,955 --> 00:17:54,435 Speaker 1: about what they have in the Harris campaign locked files 263 00:17:54,475 --> 00:17:57,595 Speaker 1: since July, and I've been mentioning it since July, and 264 00:17:57,635 --> 00:18:00,875 Speaker 1: I've been adding my own little mediocre analysis to it 265 00:18:00,955 --> 00:18:07,435 Speaker 1: since late July. She's growing, he he's shrinking, and Nate 266 00:18:07,475 --> 00:18:10,715 Speaker 1: Silver can't handle that because even though his old site 267 00:18:10,955 --> 00:18:14,475 Speaker 1: said she was the best polster in the nation, he's 268 00:18:14,835 --> 00:18:18,155 Speaker 1: using all the new bells and whistles she won't use. 269 00:18:18,915 --> 00:18:22,675 Speaker 1: He's saying Trump is a slight favorite. Listen to what 270 00:18:22,755 --> 00:18:25,555 Speaker 1: he wrote, and listen for the new in word in 271 00:18:25,675 --> 00:18:32,275 Speaker 1: polling Herding. Releasing this poll took an incredible amount of 272 00:18:32,315 --> 00:18:34,635 Speaker 1: guts because, let me state this as carefully as I can, 273 00:18:34,955 --> 00:18:37,275 Speaker 1: if you had to play the odds this time, Selzer 274 00:18:37,555 --> 00:18:42,355 Speaker 1: will probably be wrong. Harris's chances of winning Iowa nearly 275 00:18:42,395 --> 00:18:46,155 Speaker 1: doubled an hour model from nine percent to seventeen percent tonight, 276 00:18:46,475 --> 00:18:50,195 Speaker 1: which isn't nothing. Polymarket shows a similar trend, moving from 277 00:18:50,235 --> 00:18:54,195 Speaker 1: six percent to eighteen percent after the survey. Polymarket is 278 00:18:54,235 --> 00:18:58,875 Speaker 1: a wagering site run by a fascist that, by the way, 279 00:18:58,915 --> 00:19:03,195 Speaker 1: pays Nate Silver. Anyway, he continues that still places Harris's 280 00:19:03,195 --> 00:19:08,075 Speaker 1: odds at around five to one against not five feet 281 00:19:08,115 --> 00:19:10,795 Speaker 1: from where I'm sitting. Incidentally, is my framed copy of 282 00:19:10,835 --> 00:19:17,155 Speaker 1: the nineteen forty eight Chicago Tribune. Dewey defeats Truman. The 283 00:19:17,235 --> 00:19:19,635 Speaker 1: poll has a reasonable sample size eight hundred and eight 284 00:19:19,715 --> 00:19:22,075 Speaker 1: likely voters. Still, the margin of error for the difference 285 00:19:22,075 --> 00:19:24,075 Speaker 1: separating the candidates in a poll of that size is 286 00:19:24,115 --> 00:19:26,515 Speaker 1: plus six point six. That means, in theory, in ninety 287 00:19:26,515 --> 00:19:28,675 Speaker 1: five out of one hundred cases, the real number should 288 00:19:28,715 --> 00:19:32,115 Speaker 1: be somewhere between Trump punch run thing Man Wow Wait 289 00:19:32,155 --> 00:19:35,515 Speaker 1: Wow Wow wait wow. Nate Silver as Charlie Brown's teacher, 290 00:19:36,835 --> 00:19:41,035 Speaker 1: so if he doesn't have a degree in that. There 291 00:19:41,075 --> 00:19:44,275 Speaker 1: was also a second Iowa poll out tonight, he wrote Saturday, 292 00:19:44,275 --> 00:19:47,635 Speaker 1: from Emerson College, that showed Trump leading by exactly that 293 00:19:47,715 --> 00:19:50,395 Speaker 1: nine point margin from twenty twenty. Emerson is a firm 294 00:19:50,435 --> 00:19:53,155 Speaker 1: that does a lot of herding, so you ought to 295 00:19:53,155 --> 00:19:55,475 Speaker 1: account for that. They virtually never publish a survey that 296 00:19:55,555 --> 00:19:59,915 Speaker 1: defies the conventional wisdom. However, for what it's worth, their 297 00:20:00,035 --> 00:20:04,115 Speaker 1: margin of error runs from Trump plus fifteen point seven 298 00:20:04,395 --> 00:20:08,755 Speaker 1: to Trump plus two point five. In other words, Nate 299 00:20:08,875 --> 00:20:12,355 Speaker 1: is saying that the Emerson poles of no value, except 300 00:20:12,435 --> 00:20:14,715 Speaker 1: he just said it was more important than the saleser pole, 301 00:20:15,075 --> 00:20:18,155 Speaker 1: and he is so mad at Selzer for not being 302 00:20:18,235 --> 00:20:21,635 Speaker 1: part of the herd. Earlier this week, Nate Silver wrote 303 00:20:21,755 --> 00:20:28,675 Speaker 1: about how dangerous herding was in polling herding quote took 304 00:20:28,715 --> 00:20:31,435 Speaker 1: a lot of guts to publish this. In other words, 305 00:20:31,475 --> 00:20:38,115 Speaker 1: polsters are fixing their polls, writes Nate Silver, altering who 306 00:20:38,195 --> 00:20:41,275 Speaker 1: is a likely voter in their own polls to change 307 00:20:41,315 --> 00:20:45,755 Speaker 1: the results, suppressing their own polls. He's suggesting that Selzer 308 00:20:45,755 --> 00:20:50,195 Speaker 1: had the option to not publish this poll. I hate 309 00:20:50,235 --> 00:20:53,275 Speaker 1: to use this verb, but faking their own polls to 310 00:20:53,435 --> 00:20:58,435 Speaker 1: protect themselves rather than to add to what we understand 311 00:20:58,475 --> 00:21:02,755 Speaker 1: about what might be happening out there, meaning their data 312 00:21:02,795 --> 00:21:06,595 Speaker 1: could be dismissed in whole or in part. And all 313 00:21:06,635 --> 00:21:09,915 Speaker 1: they're doing this for is the money. And if you 314 00:21:09,955 --> 00:21:12,835 Speaker 1: are involved in covering the future of this nation and 315 00:21:12,915 --> 00:21:20,835 Speaker 1: your only motive is money. F you do you think 316 00:21:20,915 --> 00:21:25,955 Speaker 1: I do this for money? Do you think I ever 317 00:21:25,995 --> 00:21:30,195 Speaker 1: did it for money? Now, maybe initially I did it 318 00:21:30,235 --> 00:21:33,395 Speaker 1: for money, and then at some point you have enough 319 00:21:33,395 --> 00:21:35,195 Speaker 1: money and you don't have to do this anymore unless 320 00:21:35,235 --> 00:21:37,315 Speaker 1: you feel it has some value. And the first rule 321 00:21:37,355 --> 00:21:40,675 Speaker 1: of having some value is it has to be true. Oh, 322 00:21:40,715 --> 00:21:43,115 Speaker 1: I don't like the results of our poll. Change who 323 00:21:43,155 --> 00:21:46,475 Speaker 1: the likely voters are. Get rid of all those Harris voters. 324 00:21:46,595 --> 00:21:51,115 Speaker 1: Get rid of all those women, senior women. Why would 325 00:21:51,115 --> 00:21:58,275 Speaker 1: they be interested in abortion rights? Their data could be 326 00:21:58,355 --> 00:22:03,035 Speaker 1: dismissed entirely, especially if they're Anne out there in Des 327 00:22:03,075 --> 00:22:06,275 Speaker 1: Moines where her afe is on the same block as 328 00:22:06,275 --> 00:22:11,435 Speaker 1: not one, but two different knitting shops. You know where 329 00:22:11,475 --> 00:22:14,275 Speaker 1: I read that about the knitting shops. I read that 330 00:22:14,515 --> 00:22:18,195 Speaker 1: in the article about her at five thirty eight dot 331 00:22:18,235 --> 00:22:31,595 Speaker 1: com before they fired Nate silver As. I said, pop 332 00:22:31,635 --> 00:22:34,555 Speaker 1: culture Overload podcast because for the life of me, I 333 00:22:34,635 --> 00:22:36,915 Speaker 1: do not know what there will be to put into 334 00:22:36,955 --> 00:22:40,075 Speaker 1: tomorrow's episode. I may not even do one on Wednesday 335 00:22:40,635 --> 00:22:43,235 Speaker 1: unless we have a landslide or something to talk about, 336 00:22:43,355 --> 00:22:45,315 Speaker 1: or it might be six minutes long. I have no 337 00:22:45,435 --> 00:22:49,475 Speaker 1: idea what there will be left to talk about. But 338 00:22:50,435 --> 00:22:53,155 Speaker 1: I cannot leave this polling issue while it is so 339 00:22:53,315 --> 00:22:56,515 Speaker 1: prominent without going back to my favorite movie of all 340 00:22:56,595 --> 00:23:02,075 Speaker 1: time in Network, the dark and still disturbingly perfectly prescient 341 00:23:02,195 --> 00:23:06,035 Speaker 1: view of the politics and news media of tomorrow, as 342 00:23:06,075 --> 00:23:08,475 Speaker 1: seen from what we thought were the dark and disturbing 343 00:23:08,555 --> 00:23:13,475 Speaker 1: days of nineteen seventy six. Ha ha. The cronkite type 344 00:23:13,515 --> 00:23:18,675 Speaker 1: network newscaster goes nuts, announces suddenly that he's going to 345 00:23:18,755 --> 00:23:21,635 Speaker 1: kill himself on the air, and of course the ratings 346 00:23:21,635 --> 00:23:25,075 Speaker 1: go through the roof. Next thing you know, he has 347 00:23:25,115 --> 00:23:27,875 Speaker 1: the top rated show on television. And of course they 348 00:23:27,955 --> 00:23:31,115 Speaker 1: dumb it down as much as possible. They expand it 349 00:23:31,155 --> 00:23:34,915 Speaker 1: to sixty minutes. They call it the Network News Hour, 350 00:23:35,475 --> 00:23:38,275 Speaker 1: like it was the Smothers Brother's Hour or the Ted 351 00:23:38,395 --> 00:23:42,395 Speaker 1: mac Amateur Hour, and they put in all these nightly 352 00:23:42,555 --> 00:23:47,035 Speaker 1: familiar segments. One called Skeletons in the Closet with Miss 353 00:23:47,075 --> 00:23:51,715 Speaker 1: Mattahari celebrity gossip like you know half of what you 354 00:23:51,795 --> 00:23:54,395 Speaker 1: hear or see on all news radio or TV today. 355 00:23:54,475 --> 00:23:57,635 Speaker 1: Then it was laughable that anybody would even think to 356 00:23:57,675 --> 00:24:00,515 Speaker 1: put that on television. They're Sybil the Soothsayer with her 357 00:24:00,555 --> 00:24:04,635 Speaker 1: predictions for the future, like you know, every political pundit 358 00:24:05,115 --> 00:24:12,155 Speaker 1: and every single goddamned sportscast on the continent, including your 359 00:24:12,195 --> 00:24:16,875 Speaker 1: opportunity to bet on each prediction for the future these 360 00:24:16,875 --> 00:24:21,795 Speaker 1: guys have just made. Then it's the emmis truth Department 361 00:24:21,795 --> 00:24:25,035 Speaker 1: with Jim Webbing a mixture of lawsuits and conspiracy theories. 362 00:24:25,075 --> 00:24:27,155 Speaker 1: We don't have any of that in television news. And 363 00:24:27,235 --> 00:24:30,435 Speaker 1: of course, then the news anchor himself, Howard Beale, doesn't 364 00:24:30,475 --> 00:24:33,315 Speaker 1: do any news anymore. He just goes on these endless 365 00:24:33,315 --> 00:24:36,795 Speaker 1: political and sociological rants, and he tells people to flood 366 00:24:36,835 --> 00:24:39,515 Speaker 1: the White House with telegrams, and then he passes out 367 00:24:39,555 --> 00:24:42,795 Speaker 1: on the air, and golly, has that happened anywhere? Has 368 00:24:42,795 --> 00:24:45,755 Speaker 1: any of the newscasters just become commentatorus? Maybe I should 369 00:24:45,835 --> 00:24:49,475 Speaker 1: leave this part of the subject alone. But as disturbing 370 00:24:49,915 --> 00:24:53,315 Speaker 1: as any of these nightly segments on what we saw 371 00:24:53,355 --> 00:24:58,315 Speaker 1: as a hyperbolic, impossible, prostituted future for television news was 372 00:24:58,355 --> 00:25:01,715 Speaker 1: another nightly segment on the network News Hour devoted to 373 00:25:01,715 --> 00:25:06,275 Speaker 1: one of the most shunned, most unreliable, most avoided components 374 00:25:06,835 --> 00:25:10,675 Speaker 1: of what was then the cheapest and cheaper forms of news. 375 00:25:11,075 --> 00:25:14,995 Speaker 1: The segment was called Vox POPULARI. And it was no 376 00:25:15,115 --> 00:25:17,715 Speaker 1: host for that. There was no Miss Matta Harry, there 377 00:25:17,755 --> 00:25:20,475 Speaker 1: was no Jim Webbing. It was just a computer, a 378 00:25:20,515 --> 00:25:24,395 Speaker 1: big computer, and it was spitting out every night something 379 00:25:24,475 --> 00:25:28,715 Speaker 1: as impossible and sleazy and unnewsworthy as skeletons in the 380 00:25:28,755 --> 00:25:31,275 Speaker 1: closet or Sybil to Sooox's share. And what it was 381 00:25:31,315 --> 00:25:44,475 Speaker 1: spitting out was public opinion, polls, shoes share, good evening. 382 00:25:44,715 --> 00:25:49,355 Speaker 1: Tom Broker also of interest here, almost ran into him 383 00:25:50,675 --> 00:25:52,995 Speaker 1: at the Animal Medical Center in New York. They said, oh, 384 00:25:53,035 --> 00:25:54,875 Speaker 1: he's Tom Broker, was going to be here at two o'clock. 385 00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:57,955 Speaker 1: I went, I'll be out by one fifty nine. Also 386 00:25:57,995 --> 00:26:00,395 Speaker 1: of interest here, the definition of a pundit is to 387 00:26:00,435 --> 00:26:03,315 Speaker 1: mock everybody who took position A instead of position B, 388 00:26:03,995 --> 00:26:08,115 Speaker 1: having forgotten that same pundit had previously mocked everybody who 389 00:26:08,195 --> 00:26:13,275 Speaker 1: took position B instead of position A. And now we 390 00:26:13,395 --> 00:26:15,755 Speaker 1: know why Trump is still so pissed off that Biden 391 00:26:15,835 --> 00:26:19,315 Speaker 1: dropped out. According to Tim Alberta in the Atlantic, Trump 392 00:26:19,395 --> 00:26:22,675 Speaker 1: thought he had a perfect nickname for Joe Biden, a 393 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:28,755 Speaker 1: perfect self damning totally not a confession about Trump nickname 394 00:26:29,235 --> 00:26:35,195 Speaker 1: for Joe Biden. That's next. This is Countdown. This is 395 00:26:35,355 --> 00:27:00,755 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olberman still ahead on this editiontive countdown. Yeah, 396 00:27:00,795 --> 00:27:02,595 Speaker 1: I never found out if Brokaw was coming in for 397 00:27:02,675 --> 00:27:09,755 Speaker 1: treatment or the last guy stumbled past my home just 398 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:13,835 Speaker 1: a few hours ago. And they'll be coming around to 399 00:27:13,875 --> 00:27:17,875 Speaker 1: remove the barricades any month now. You know it. You 400 00:27:17,955 --> 00:27:21,435 Speaker 1: may have seen it on television yesterday as the New 401 00:27:21,515 --> 00:27:25,475 Speaker 1: York City Marathon. I know it as the annual day 402 00:27:25,635 --> 00:27:29,395 Speaker 1: I Am trapped in my apartment day next in things 403 00:27:29,395 --> 00:27:32,435 Speaker 1: I promise not to tell first, there are still more 404 00:27:32,435 --> 00:27:34,515 Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. The daily roundup of the 405 00:27:34,515 --> 00:27:37,675 Speaker 1: miss Grants, morons and Dunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute 406 00:27:37,675 --> 00:27:41,035 Speaker 1: two days worse persons in the world. Where's persons in 407 00:27:41,075 --> 00:27:50,115 Speaker 1: the world? Lebron's worst Republican operative, Joey Mannorino, Joey's not 408 00:27:50,355 --> 00:27:55,035 Speaker 1: particularly bright. Kamala Harris is not winning IOWA, he posted 409 00:27:55,075 --> 00:27:58,515 Speaker 1: Saturday night. I'm so certain of it. I'll castrate myself 410 00:27:58,555 --> 00:28:02,475 Speaker 1: on camera if it happens. These people are just full 411 00:28:02,475 --> 00:28:09,595 Speaker 1: of absolute whatever. Sh Astris t absolute shot, Joey, I mean, 412 00:28:09,595 --> 00:28:12,595 Speaker 1: you're not that bright. It could be anything absolute shot. 413 00:28:12,955 --> 00:28:17,595 Speaker 1: In the final days of this election. Joey castrate yourself 414 00:28:17,595 --> 00:28:23,835 Speaker 1: on camera. I mean you're you're a trumpists. You're castrating 415 00:28:23,835 --> 00:28:31,795 Speaker 1: yourself on camera again worser. Oh good lord. If there 416 00:28:31,835 --> 00:28:35,435 Speaker 1: were no Chris Solissa, some writer would win all the 417 00:28:35,475 --> 00:28:40,755 Speaker 1: awards for having created him. This is from last Friday. 418 00:28:41,475 --> 00:28:44,515 Speaker 1: Tell me again, why picking the popular democratic governor of 419 00:28:44,515 --> 00:28:48,115 Speaker 1: the state you absolutely have to win as VP didn't 420 00:28:48,115 --> 00:28:53,715 Speaker 1: make sense? Okay, so we all decided to look into 421 00:28:53,715 --> 00:28:57,275 Speaker 1: this and how to tell Chris about how picking the 422 00:28:57,315 --> 00:28:59,395 Speaker 1: popular governor of the state you absolutely have to win 423 00:28:59,435 --> 00:29:01,395 Speaker 1: as VP didn't make sense? And we found this from 424 00:29:01,395 --> 00:29:04,635 Speaker 1: twenty twenty CNN. Sometime this week, maybe as soon as today, 425 00:29:05,075 --> 00:29:07,555 Speaker 1: Joe Biden will announce his vice presidential running mate. Until 426 00:29:07,595 --> 00:29:09,635 Speaker 1: that moment, speculation over who he might pick and why 427 00:29:09,795 --> 00:29:11,675 Speaker 1: will run rampant in the vast majority of it will 428 00:29:11,675 --> 00:29:14,875 Speaker 1: be totally wrong. Why there's no part of politics and 429 00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:18,635 Speaker 1: campaigns more dictated by arcane conventional wisdom than the beepstakes. 430 00:29:19,075 --> 00:29:22,355 Speaker 1: That conventional wisdom goes like this. The presidential nominee is 431 00:29:22,395 --> 00:29:24,915 Speaker 1: primarily guided by the electoral map when making his or 432 00:29:24,915 --> 00:29:27,235 Speaker 1: her pick. The person who winds up as the choices 433 00:29:27,275 --> 00:29:30,195 Speaker 1: someone the presidential candidate believes will help him deliver a 434 00:29:30,235 --> 00:29:34,195 Speaker 1: particular swing state or an area that the ticket badly 435 00:29:34,275 --> 00:29:37,075 Speaker 1: needs in order to win. The problem with that thinking, 436 00:29:37,075 --> 00:29:40,595 Speaker 1: wrote CNN in twenty twenty. A vice presidential pick has 437 00:29:40,635 --> 00:29:43,115 Speaker 1: not been the critical piece of carrying a state or 438 00:29:43,155 --> 00:29:46,915 Speaker 1: a region since wait for it, Lyndon B. Johnson in 439 00:29:46,995 --> 00:29:53,275 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. And that unanswerable argument for why picking the 440 00:29:53,275 --> 00:29:55,075 Speaker 1: governor of the state you absolutely have to win his 441 00:29:55,195 --> 00:30:03,155 Speaker 1: VP didn't make any sense was by Chris Salissa. He's stunning. 442 00:30:03,715 --> 00:30:09,155 Speaker 1: It's absolutely least stunning. The man must never have read 443 00:30:09,275 --> 00:30:12,875 Speaker 1: anything he has written in his life, and he can't 444 00:30:12,915 --> 00:30:21,595 Speaker 1: possibly own a mirror or a phone. Worst though, Trump 445 00:30:21,675 --> 00:30:25,395 Speaker 1: bey himself. This is from Tim Alberta in The Atlantic. 446 00:30:25,435 --> 00:30:27,915 Speaker 1: You remember Tim, He was the guy who killed and 447 00:30:28,115 --> 00:30:31,875 Speaker 1: buried Chris lickt. I urge you to read the entirety 448 00:30:31,915 --> 00:30:34,915 Speaker 1: of his piece on how this election has spun out 449 00:30:34,955 --> 00:30:38,155 Speaker 1: of control for Trump because truly I admire and respect 450 00:30:38,235 --> 00:30:41,715 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, but if she is elected, it will be 451 00:30:41,755 --> 00:30:47,595 Speaker 1: at least half because Trump effing blew this. Maybe it 452 00:30:47,635 --> 00:30:51,595 Speaker 1: was inevitable. Maybe the whole point is Trump is Trump. 453 00:30:51,755 --> 00:30:53,475 Speaker 1: He could have been winning by one hundred points and 454 00:30:53,555 --> 00:30:58,595 Speaker 1: still could have blown it. But Tim Alberta, who buried licked, 455 00:30:59,555 --> 00:31:02,075 Speaker 1: I think he has now buried Trump. Let me just 456 00:31:02,195 --> 00:31:04,635 Speaker 1: quote this, and I forgive you, or ask for your 457 00:31:04,675 --> 00:31:07,555 Speaker 1: forgiveness in advance, and forgive you too if you laugh 458 00:31:08,235 --> 00:31:10,915 Speaker 1: for some of the language in this. It's not mine. 459 00:31:10,915 --> 00:31:14,115 Speaker 1: It's Trump's quote at the end of June, in the 460 00:31:14,155 --> 00:31:16,795 Speaker 1: after glow of a debate performance that would ultimately prompt 461 00:31:16,795 --> 00:31:20,155 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden to end his campaign for reelection, Tim 462 00:31:20,195 --> 00:31:23,515 Speaker 1: Alberta writes, Donald Trump startled his aids by announcing that 463 00:31:23,555 --> 00:31:26,275 Speaker 1: he'd come up with a new nickname for his opponent. 464 00:31:26,755 --> 00:31:32,915 Speaker 1: Quote the guys a retard. He's retarded. I think that's 465 00:31:32,915 --> 00:31:36,955 Speaker 1: what I'll start calling him unquote. Trump declared aboard his 466 00:31:37,115 --> 00:31:40,115 Speaker 1: campaign plane in route to a rally that evening. According 467 00:31:40,155 --> 00:31:42,835 Speaker 1: to three people who heard him make the remarks, quote 468 00:31:42,875 --> 00:31:48,435 Speaker 1: retarded Joe Biden unquote. The staffers present and with ours 469 00:31:48,755 --> 00:31:52,275 Speaker 1: others who had heard about the epithet second hand, pleaded 470 00:31:52,515 --> 00:31:55,595 Speaker 1: with Trump not to say this publicly. They warned him 471 00:31:55,675 --> 00:31:58,675 Speaker 1: that would antagonize the moderate voters who'd been breaking in 472 00:31:58,715 --> 00:32:02,195 Speaker 1: their direction while engendering sympathy for a politician who at 473 00:32:02,195 --> 00:32:05,995 Speaker 1: that moment was the subject of widespread ridicule. Ule As 474 00:32:06,035 --> 00:32:09,835 Speaker 1: Trump demurred, musing that he might debut the nickname at 475 00:32:09,875 --> 00:32:14,075 Speaker 1: that night's event. His staffers puzzled over the timing. Biden 476 00:32:14,155 --> 00:32:16,955 Speaker 1: was on the ropes. Poles showed Trump jumping out to 477 00:32:16,995 --> 00:32:19,435 Speaker 1: the biggest lead he'd enjoyed in any of his three 478 00:32:19,475 --> 00:32:23,115 Speaker 1: campaigns for the presidency. Everything was going right for the 479 00:32:23,155 --> 00:32:28,515 Speaker 1: Republican Party and its nominee. Why would he jeopardize that 480 00:32:28,675 --> 00:32:35,275 Speaker 1: for the sake of slinging a juvenile insult? Unquote? Well, 481 00:32:35,395 --> 00:32:40,235 Speaker 1: Tim Alberta, I can answer your rhetorical question because Trump's 482 00:32:40,275 --> 00:32:44,515 Speaker 1: an asshole, and also because this is a reminder that 483 00:32:44,595 --> 00:32:49,355 Speaker 1: sometimes the oldest cliches are the best one. Every Republican 484 00:32:49,435 --> 00:32:59,155 Speaker 1: accusation is a confession. Donald Trump two days worst Person 485 00:33:00,515 --> 00:33:20,795 Speaker 1: and the New York City Marathon. I have nothing against 486 00:33:20,835 --> 00:33:23,395 Speaker 1: the New York City Marathon, but I will say this, 487 00:33:25,115 --> 00:33:28,195 Speaker 1: it's extraordinary to have seen the thing grow as it 488 00:33:28,275 --> 00:33:31,275 Speaker 1: has since my earliest days as a reporter. In the 489 00:33:31,355 --> 00:33:35,195 Speaker 1: late seventies and early eighties, when I was at CNN, 490 00:33:35,555 --> 00:33:37,835 Speaker 1: I got a phone call one day from a guy 491 00:33:37,995 --> 00:33:41,395 Speaker 1: claiming to be the publicist for the New York Marathon, 492 00:33:41,435 --> 00:33:45,555 Speaker 1: which was a big thing. Ten or fifteen thousand people 493 00:33:45,595 --> 00:33:48,115 Speaker 1: would run it every year, but in some places they 494 00:33:48,115 --> 00:33:50,915 Speaker 1: had to dodge traffic because police would not shut down 495 00:33:50,995 --> 00:33:53,515 Speaker 1: all the streets for the early years of the New 496 00:33:53,595 --> 00:33:56,675 Speaker 1: York City Marathon, and the publicist said, look, if you'd 497 00:33:56,715 --> 00:33:59,835 Speaker 1: like to talk to our founder, Fred Leebow, who invented 498 00:33:59,875 --> 00:34:01,755 Speaker 1: this and got it off the ground as a rival 499 00:34:01,795 --> 00:34:03,835 Speaker 1: to the Boston Marathon, or if you'd like to talk 500 00:34:03,875 --> 00:34:06,795 Speaker 1: to Bill Roydgers who's running in it and is internationally 501 00:34:06,795 --> 00:34:10,675 Speaker 1: famous as a runner, or several other internationally famous American runners. 502 00:34:10,995 --> 00:34:13,755 Speaker 1: We can arrange this for you. If you'd like to 503 00:34:13,835 --> 00:34:16,355 Speaker 1: just call us in the office when you have time 504 00:34:16,395 --> 00:34:20,355 Speaker 1: to come talk to us. We'll make it happen. And 505 00:34:20,435 --> 00:34:25,115 Speaker 1: I called and I got this answer, Hello New York 506 00:34:25,155 --> 00:34:29,155 Speaker 1: City Marathon. I said, yes, Hi, Fred Libo's office, please, 507 00:34:29,755 --> 00:34:33,915 Speaker 1: And the man said speaking the head of the New 508 00:34:33,995 --> 00:34:38,155 Speaker 1: York City Marathon was answering the switchboard, and it soon 509 00:34:38,315 --> 00:34:41,515 Speaker 1: proved that Fred Libo was the same guy who had 510 00:34:41,555 --> 00:34:45,115 Speaker 1: posed as the publicist. He was, in fact the entirety 511 00:34:45,155 --> 00:34:47,555 Speaker 1: of the management structure of the New York City marathon 512 00:34:47,635 --> 00:34:51,475 Speaker 1: as of nineteen eighty two, I guess the first time 513 00:34:51,555 --> 00:34:54,355 Speaker 1: I would have covered the race. And when I said 514 00:34:54,395 --> 00:34:56,475 Speaker 1: CNN was interested in doing a preview of the New 515 00:34:56,555 --> 00:34:59,195 Speaker 1: York Marathon, Oh, that's great, he said, in a rather 516 00:34:59,275 --> 00:35:03,035 Speaker 1: thick European accent. That's great. When would you like us 517 00:35:03,035 --> 00:35:06,475 Speaker 1: to meet you? I said, well, don't you have a 518 00:35:06,515 --> 00:35:10,075 Speaker 1: set press time or schedule? No, no, we'll we'll arrange 519 00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:12,195 Speaker 1: it for you. When can you be here? It was 520 00:35:12,275 --> 00:35:14,955 Speaker 1: literally one of those things, what time do you want 521 00:35:14,995 --> 00:35:18,075 Speaker 1: to do this? When can you be here? And I said, well, 522 00:35:18,115 --> 00:35:19,595 Speaker 1: it looks like I can get the crew at three 523 00:35:19,635 --> 00:35:23,915 Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow afternoon. Great, and I said okay, And then 524 00:35:24,035 --> 00:35:26,875 Speaker 1: Fred Liebo said where would you like us to be? 525 00:35:28,275 --> 00:35:31,475 Speaker 1: That's where the New York City Marathon was forty years 526 00:35:31,475 --> 00:35:34,355 Speaker 1: ago compared to today, when they shut down my block 527 00:35:34,435 --> 00:35:36,515 Speaker 1: and make it impossible for anybody who does not have 528 00:35:36,755 --> 00:35:40,555 Speaker 1: identification showing that they live there to walk through without 529 00:35:40,595 --> 00:35:45,355 Speaker 1: a special pass. Congratulations on doing that. There's another story 530 00:35:45,355 --> 00:35:48,675 Speaker 1: from CNN days. It actually precedes my story. It's one 531 00:35:48,675 --> 00:35:51,435 Speaker 1: of the first big events that CNN tried to cover 532 00:35:51,635 --> 00:35:55,395 Speaker 1: live and again. Now the rights to carry the New 533 00:35:55,475 --> 00:35:59,475 Speaker 1: York Marathon on television live costs millions of dollars and 534 00:35:59,475 --> 00:36:03,475 Speaker 1: are sold exclusively to whoever. I can't imagine anybody actually 535 00:36:03,515 --> 00:36:07,075 Speaker 1: watching people run as a sporting event, but there it is, 536 00:36:07,115 --> 00:36:09,795 Speaker 1: certainly not in a marathon format. It takes a little long. 537 00:36:10,875 --> 00:36:13,395 Speaker 1: But in those days, if you wanted to put the 538 00:36:13,755 --> 00:36:17,315 Speaker 1: New York City Marathon on television, all you had to 539 00:36:17,395 --> 00:36:19,675 Speaker 1: do was point a camera at it. And so the 540 00:36:19,715 --> 00:36:23,035 Speaker 1: CNN idea was, let's get the start of the marathon 541 00:36:23,115 --> 00:36:26,795 Speaker 1: from the Verrizanto Narrows Bridge. Let's put it on live, 542 00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:30,115 Speaker 1: and let's actually try to do something that has never 543 00:36:30,155 --> 00:36:35,315 Speaker 1: been done before. Let's move our truck and show not 544 00:36:35,555 --> 00:36:38,875 Speaker 1: just the start of the marathon, but we'll be several 545 00:36:38,955 --> 00:36:41,595 Speaker 1: hundred yards ahead of the front runners, and we'll show 546 00:36:41,595 --> 00:36:44,955 Speaker 1: that marathon live for forty five seconds or a minute 547 00:36:45,115 --> 00:36:48,195 Speaker 1: until our signal gives way, until we are no longer 548 00:36:48,395 --> 00:36:51,835 Speaker 1: able to be live. That was the thinking. So they 549 00:36:51,875 --> 00:36:54,715 Speaker 1: did this and were surprised, and I'm sure this was 550 00:36:54,915 --> 00:36:58,995 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty right after CNN signed on, And sure enough, 551 00:36:59,035 --> 00:37:01,755 Speaker 1: they drove the truck and pointed the camera outside the 552 00:37:01,795 --> 00:37:04,315 Speaker 1: back window, and they got the start of the marathon 553 00:37:04,355 --> 00:37:06,475 Speaker 1: and the on going off in this scene of people 554 00:37:06,595 --> 00:37:10,875 Speaker 1: running towards the truck, and then suddenly the signal was 555 00:37:11,035 --> 00:37:16,315 Speaker 1: lost and there was this sound heard before the signal 556 00:37:16,395 --> 00:37:20,075 Speaker 1: was lost. Oh shut, and that was it. What had 557 00:37:20,115 --> 00:37:23,075 Speaker 1: happened was in those days to do a live signal 558 00:37:23,115 --> 00:37:25,395 Speaker 1: from a moving truck, you couldn't just stick up a 559 00:37:25,395 --> 00:37:28,235 Speaker 1: little antenna, which you can do now. You had to 560 00:37:28,275 --> 00:37:32,675 Speaker 1: have a whole, essentially arm sticking up a six foot 561 00:37:32,715 --> 00:37:36,075 Speaker 1: tall mast that had to stick up above the truck 562 00:37:36,275 --> 00:37:39,395 Speaker 1: like well, you know when the electricity company comes to 563 00:37:39,435 --> 00:37:43,835 Speaker 1: repair your down power lines. One of those things. It 564 00:37:44,395 --> 00:37:46,355 Speaker 1: didn't have a cage at the top of it for 565 00:37:46,395 --> 00:37:48,835 Speaker 1: somebody to stand in, but it would have supported somebody easily. 566 00:37:48,875 --> 00:37:53,235 Speaker 1: A six foot tall, probably one or two foot diameter mast, 567 00:37:53,835 --> 00:37:56,515 Speaker 1: and they were driving along the Verizona Narrows Bridge with 568 00:37:56,595 --> 00:38:01,075 Speaker 1: it and didn't realize that there were low lying overpasses 569 00:38:01,115 --> 00:38:05,355 Speaker 1: on the Verizono Narrow's Bridge for maintenance and painting and whatnot, 570 00:38:05,595 --> 00:38:08,595 Speaker 1: and sure enough they drove right into one and the 571 00:38:08,715 --> 00:38:13,115 Speaker 1: damn thing snapped in half. For many years thereafter, Mary 572 00:38:13,155 --> 00:38:15,875 Speaker 1: Alice Williams, who was the main CNN anchor in New 573 00:38:15,955 --> 00:38:19,155 Speaker 1: York and also the vice president of the company and 574 00:38:19,315 --> 00:38:22,075 Speaker 1: also the bureau chief of CNN in New York, had 575 00:38:22,115 --> 00:38:25,435 Speaker 1: framed on her wall what looked to be something left 576 00:38:25,475 --> 00:38:28,995 Speaker 1: over from a drain at somebody's house. It was a 577 00:38:29,355 --> 00:38:33,675 Speaker 1: bent piece of metal with a damage mark in the middle. 578 00:38:33,995 --> 00:38:36,595 Speaker 1: She had it framed on her wall, and I once 579 00:38:36,635 --> 00:38:38,275 Speaker 1: asked her what it was, And that's how I know 580 00:38:38,355 --> 00:38:41,475 Speaker 1: this story, because what it was was the CNN Live 581 00:38:41,555 --> 00:38:45,315 Speaker 1: truck mast that got snapped in half while they were 582 00:38:45,355 --> 00:38:49,555 Speaker 1: covering the nineteen eighty New York City Marathon live. The 583 00:38:49,595 --> 00:38:51,555 Speaker 1: New York Marathon, of course, was also the home of 584 00:38:51,675 --> 00:38:54,915 Speaker 1: Rosie Ruiz, who later claimed to have been the winner 585 00:38:54,955 --> 00:38:58,235 Speaker 1: of the Boston Marathon. She'd gotten into the Boston Marathon 586 00:38:58,315 --> 00:39:01,275 Speaker 1: by claiming she had run in the New York City Marathon, 587 00:39:01,315 --> 00:39:04,315 Speaker 1: and then it turned out in both races. The reason 588 00:39:04,355 --> 00:39:07,195 Speaker 1: she had done so well when she was not internationally known, 589 00:39:07,275 --> 00:39:10,475 Speaker 1: nor ranked, nor known to have run a race in 590 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:13,355 Speaker 1: less than three hours, Rosie Ruiz in both the New 591 00:39:13,435 --> 00:39:15,995 Speaker 1: York City Marathon and the Boston Marathon of the eighties 592 00:39:16,915 --> 00:39:21,075 Speaker 1: solved the problem that faces so many many runners, that 593 00:39:21,235 --> 00:39:24,195 Speaker 1: was dead spots when you hit the so called wall. 594 00:39:24,715 --> 00:39:27,275 Speaker 1: She got around the wall by traveling part of the 595 00:39:27,355 --> 00:39:33,035 Speaker 1: route by a subway. In fact, she met up intentionally 596 00:39:33,035 --> 00:39:36,755 Speaker 1: obviously with one of the reporters who covered her as 597 00:39:36,795 --> 00:39:39,715 Speaker 1: she was being given the laurels for winning one of 598 00:39:39,715 --> 00:39:42,515 Speaker 1: the marathons. And one of the reporters said, wait a minute, 599 00:39:43,155 --> 00:39:45,475 Speaker 1: I saw that woman on the subway on my way 600 00:39:45,515 --> 00:39:49,115 Speaker 1: over here. And that's how the whole Rosy Ruiz story unraveled. 601 00:39:49,955 --> 00:39:53,515 Speaker 1: Later efforts to promote the New York Marathon introduced me 602 00:39:53,595 --> 00:39:56,315 Speaker 1: to a man I have mentioned here before, Abel Kiviat. 603 00:39:56,635 --> 00:39:59,515 Speaker 1: Abel Kiviat was one of the top milers in American 604 00:40:00,115 --> 00:40:03,955 Speaker 1: track and field in the early years of the twentieth century, 605 00:40:04,075 --> 00:40:06,675 Speaker 1: I mean nineth He was a guy from Queen's with 606 00:40:06,675 --> 00:40:10,555 Speaker 1: a remarkable accent, and his ninetieth birthday coincided with a 607 00:40:10,675 --> 00:40:13,235 Speaker 1: day they wanted to publicize the New York Marathon. So 608 00:40:13,715 --> 00:40:17,235 Speaker 1: the publicity for this was at the Guggenheim Museum, which 609 00:40:17,355 --> 00:40:20,235 Speaker 1: was only half as old as Abel was. And Abel 610 00:40:20,275 --> 00:40:23,515 Speaker 1: came down and talked with his remarkable Queen's accent, and 611 00:40:23,595 --> 00:40:26,515 Speaker 1: he was telling us stories about how he won a 612 00:40:26,755 --> 00:40:30,035 Speaker 1: race in Waltham, Massachusetts in nineteen ten and he still 613 00:40:30,035 --> 00:40:32,235 Speaker 1: had the clock that they gave him, the watch they 614 00:40:32,235 --> 00:40:34,955 Speaker 1: gave him for winning the race, and he said, run 615 00:40:34,995 --> 00:40:37,235 Speaker 1: to the damn sight better than I do. And then 616 00:40:37,275 --> 00:40:39,875 Speaker 1: we went outside and my producer had this great idea 617 00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:42,555 Speaker 1: that we'd get able to run a couple of steps 618 00:40:42,595 --> 00:40:45,155 Speaker 1: down Fifth Avenue, and we put that in the piece, 619 00:40:45,195 --> 00:40:49,275 Speaker 1: and of course Abel, who was still running for health reasons. 620 00:40:49,555 --> 00:40:52,395 Speaker 1: Abel decided that he would show us exactly what a 621 00:40:52,475 --> 00:40:54,715 Speaker 1: ninety year old man could do while running, and he 622 00:40:54,795 --> 00:40:57,515 Speaker 1: shot past the cameraman and we had to ask him 623 00:40:57,515 --> 00:41:00,155 Speaker 1: to do it again because he was about fifty four 624 00:41:00,155 --> 00:41:02,995 Speaker 1: times faster than the cameraman mentioned or thought was going 625 00:41:03,075 --> 00:41:06,955 Speaker 1: to happen. Kivat the most interesting part of this, and 626 00:41:06,995 --> 00:41:08,955 Speaker 1: I wish I had gone even into more detail with 627 00:41:09,035 --> 00:41:11,275 Speaker 1: him than I did back in those days. In nineteen 628 00:41:11,315 --> 00:41:14,355 Speaker 1: eighty two, when I got to interview him, Able Kiviat 629 00:41:14,395 --> 00:41:17,635 Speaker 1: revealed he had been Jim Thorpe's roommate at the nineteen 630 00:41:17,755 --> 00:41:20,635 Speaker 1: twelve Olympics. I've told the story in great depth, and 631 00:41:20,675 --> 00:41:23,595 Speaker 1: I won't do so here, but he said basically that 632 00:41:23,715 --> 00:41:27,675 Speaker 1: Jim Thorpe could do anything you could do better than 633 00:41:27,715 --> 00:41:29,755 Speaker 1: you could do it, and all he needed was to 634 00:41:29,835 --> 00:41:32,635 Speaker 1: watch you do it two or three times. He said, literally, 635 00:41:32,835 --> 00:41:35,075 Speaker 1: he could take that microphone out of your hands, and 636 00:41:35,195 --> 00:41:37,355 Speaker 1: a couple of days from now he'd be better at 637 00:41:37,355 --> 00:41:39,195 Speaker 1: it than you would be. And I said, well, I 638 00:41:39,195 --> 00:41:41,315 Speaker 1: don't doubt that, but give me a better example of it. 639 00:41:41,355 --> 00:41:43,315 Speaker 1: And he told the story of how one night all 640 00:41:43,435 --> 00:41:46,355 Speaker 1: the English and the American athletes were trying to jump 641 00:41:46,475 --> 00:41:50,475 Speaker 1: up and touch the bottom prong of a chandelier, or 642 00:41:50,515 --> 00:41:53,195 Speaker 1: as he said it very endearingly, just like both of 643 00:41:53,195 --> 00:41:57,795 Speaker 1: my Bronx New York grandparents, the chambalier, the bottom of 644 00:41:57,795 --> 00:42:01,475 Speaker 1: the chandelier. He said. They were all having a nice 645 00:42:01,515 --> 00:42:03,835 Speaker 1: time on board the ship in which they lived at 646 00:42:03,875 --> 00:42:06,795 Speaker 1: the nineteen twelve Olympics, and Thorpe was out drinking on 647 00:42:06,915 --> 00:42:09,555 Speaker 1: the town somewhere back on the mainland, and he came 648 00:42:09,595 --> 00:42:12,275 Speaker 1: out on a boat and back to their boat that 649 00:42:12,315 --> 00:42:14,675 Speaker 1: they were occupying, the ship they were all living on, 650 00:42:15,315 --> 00:42:18,155 Speaker 1: and all night all of the great athletes of the world, 651 00:42:18,155 --> 00:42:20,355 Speaker 1: including all the high jumpers, tried to reach up and 652 00:42:20,435 --> 00:42:23,715 Speaker 1: grab the bottom of this chandelier, just touch it. And 653 00:42:23,755 --> 00:42:27,275 Speaker 1: now there was a pool of perhaps several hundred dollars 654 00:42:27,355 --> 00:42:30,035 Speaker 1: sitting in a hat on the floor. Thorpe, he says, 655 00:42:30,315 --> 00:42:32,995 Speaker 1: staggers in, looks up at the scene and goes, what's 656 00:42:33,035 --> 00:42:36,515 Speaker 1: going on? Fellas they explain it to him, and he goes, oh, okay. 657 00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:40,355 Speaker 1: He takes off his jacket. He does not take off 658 00:42:40,355 --> 00:42:44,875 Speaker 1: his vest. He unbuttons it and simply steps back three steps. 659 00:42:44,995 --> 00:42:47,995 Speaker 1: And as Abel described it, he doesn't even do a 660 00:42:48,075 --> 00:42:51,915 Speaker 1: run and start. He just reaches up and grabs the 661 00:42:51,955 --> 00:42:55,475 Speaker 1: bottom piece of the chandelier and hangs on to it, 662 00:42:55,515 --> 00:42:57,595 Speaker 1: and we think the whole damn thing's coming down on 663 00:42:57,675 --> 00:43:00,355 Speaker 1: top of us. He lets go after a few seconds, 664 00:43:00,435 --> 00:43:04,675 Speaker 1: and in one sweeping gesture, he reaches down, takes the hat, 665 00:43:04,915 --> 00:43:07,355 Speaker 1: turns it over, grabs all the bills as they fall, 666 00:43:07,395 --> 00:43:09,875 Speaker 1: stuffs them in his pocket, puts his own hat back 667 00:43:09,915 --> 00:43:12,475 Speaker 1: on his head, and says, have a good night, gentlemen. 668 00:43:12,835 --> 00:43:15,595 Speaker 1: That was who Jim Taupe was, all right. So that's 669 00:43:15,635 --> 00:43:17,315 Speaker 1: the New York Marathon. And if I think of the 670 00:43:17,315 --> 00:43:21,075 Speaker 1: New York Marathon, I necessarily think of the Los Angeles Marathon, 671 00:43:21,435 --> 00:43:24,915 Speaker 1: which started when I was a sportscaster in LA and 672 00:43:25,115 --> 00:43:27,875 Speaker 1: I was working for the radio station that somehow got 673 00:43:27,875 --> 00:43:30,755 Speaker 1: the rights. I suspect we were paid to do this, 674 00:43:31,595 --> 00:43:34,715 Speaker 1: got the rights to do radio play by play of 675 00:43:34,755 --> 00:43:38,595 Speaker 1: a marathon. Now, think about this. Once in high school, 676 00:43:38,635 --> 00:43:41,235 Speaker 1: I once tried to do radio play by play of 677 00:43:41,315 --> 00:43:45,035 Speaker 1: a swim meet, which is really problematic if you lose 678 00:43:45,275 --> 00:43:49,075 Speaker 1: your indications of who is in which lane because the 679 00:43:49,155 --> 00:43:52,955 Speaker 1: swimmers go underwater. But try to do eight or ten 680 00:43:53,035 --> 00:43:55,875 Speaker 1: hours of live coverage of a marathon on a news 681 00:43:56,115 --> 00:43:59,315 Speaker 1: radio station. That's what we did. And since I was 682 00:43:59,355 --> 00:44:03,435 Speaker 1: the sportscaster, they made me co anchor with the lead newscaster, 683 00:44:03,955 --> 00:44:09,995 Speaker 1: and we set up in front of a gas station. 684 00:44:10,355 --> 00:44:13,275 Speaker 1: That's what it was, a gas station near the start 685 00:44:13,355 --> 00:44:16,355 Speaker 1: line of the Los Angeles Marathon, right next to the 686 00:44:16,395 --> 00:44:21,755 Speaker 1: coliseum in downtown LA. And at just the beginning of 687 00:44:21,795 --> 00:44:24,075 Speaker 1: the race, two minutes beforehand, they said, by the way, 688 00:44:24,115 --> 00:44:26,275 Speaker 1: we want you, Keith, We want you to do the 689 00:44:26,275 --> 00:44:30,355 Speaker 1: play by play of the race starting And I said 690 00:44:30,675 --> 00:44:33,435 Speaker 1: from where? They said, from right here? And I said, 691 00:44:34,795 --> 00:44:37,915 Speaker 1: I can't even see the starting line from here. We're 692 00:44:37,915 --> 00:44:39,795 Speaker 1: going to see them all run past us. But we're 693 00:44:40,155 --> 00:44:42,635 Speaker 1: I don't know, a thousand yards from the start of 694 00:44:42,635 --> 00:44:44,355 Speaker 1: the race. I mean I can see them all down there. 695 00:44:44,395 --> 00:44:46,355 Speaker 1: What do you want me to say? They said, okay, no, 696 00:44:46,515 --> 00:44:48,555 Speaker 1: we thought of that. We have a solution to it. 697 00:44:48,595 --> 00:44:51,555 Speaker 1: And one of the engineers produced for me to stand 698 00:44:51,595 --> 00:44:59,115 Speaker 1: on a folding metal chair that lifted me oh two 699 00:44:59,195 --> 00:45:01,435 Speaker 1: and a half feet off the ground, and by the way, 700 00:45:01,595 --> 00:45:04,035 Speaker 1: wasn't even steady, and they said call it from there. 701 00:45:04,755 --> 00:45:06,315 Speaker 1: And I did not have the heart to tell my 702 00:45:06,395 --> 00:45:08,995 Speaker 1: producers at CANX radio in Los Angeles that I couldn't 703 00:45:09,035 --> 00:45:11,035 Speaker 1: see a damn thing. I just made it up as 704 00:45:11,075 --> 00:45:14,995 Speaker 1: we went along. But for the next year's race, they 705 00:45:14,995 --> 00:45:18,115 Speaker 1: had thought about this and remembered the problem that it represented. 706 00:45:18,195 --> 00:45:22,675 Speaker 1: So they got a wireless mic and they gave it 707 00:45:22,675 --> 00:45:25,595 Speaker 1: to me, and they said, about ten minutes before the 708 00:45:25,675 --> 00:45:28,515 Speaker 1: race is supposed to start, we want you to go 709 00:45:28,675 --> 00:45:33,595 Speaker 1: out onto that island that is on the other side 710 00:45:33,635 --> 00:45:36,715 Speaker 1: of the intersection where the marathon starts, so you'll be 711 00:45:37,715 --> 00:45:40,755 Speaker 1: thirty yards away from the marathon start line. You'll be 712 00:45:40,795 --> 00:45:43,195 Speaker 1: facing it, and then we will throw it out to 713 00:45:43,235 --> 00:45:46,355 Speaker 1: you in thirty or forty seconds before the gun goes off, 714 00:45:46,395 --> 00:45:49,755 Speaker 1: and you can describe what that looks like. And I 715 00:45:49,795 --> 00:45:53,155 Speaker 1: can describe what it looks like because I have had 716 00:45:53,195 --> 00:45:55,955 Speaker 1: this nightmare once a month since the first time. We 717 00:45:55,995 --> 00:45:58,875 Speaker 1: did this in I think nineteen eighty seven, with me 718 00:45:59,115 --> 00:46:03,395 Speaker 1: out in the island, twenty or thirty yards away from 719 00:46:03,475 --> 00:46:07,235 Speaker 1: the front line of the LA Marathon, which was at 720 00:46:07,235 --> 00:46:10,595 Speaker 1: that point maybe eighteen or twenty thousand people. A gun 721 00:46:10,675 --> 00:46:14,915 Speaker 1: goes off. You are standing by yourself, you are three 722 00:46:14,955 --> 00:46:18,235 Speaker 1: inches off the pavement, and suddenly eighteen or twenty thousand 723 00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:27,355 Speaker 1: people start running at high speed directly towards you. Think 724 00:46:27,355 --> 00:46:29,795 Speaker 1: about that one for a while, and you can understand 725 00:46:29,835 --> 00:46:31,915 Speaker 1: some of the problems that I've had in my life 726 00:46:31,955 --> 00:46:37,195 Speaker 1: and my career ever since. Persecution, problems, paranoia, if you 727 00:46:37,315 --> 00:46:40,395 Speaker 1: want them, go stand in front of the traffic island, 728 00:46:40,475 --> 00:46:44,115 Speaker 1: twenty thirty yards in front of a marathon starting and 729 00:46:44,235 --> 00:46:46,515 Speaker 1: let eighteen thousand people run at you, even if you 730 00:46:46,635 --> 00:46:49,155 Speaker 1: were normal to begin with. And I'm making no claims 731 00:46:49,195 --> 00:46:54,315 Speaker 1: about that that will change you in a hurry. Marathons 732 00:46:54,515 --> 00:46:58,595 Speaker 1: I have survived by Keith Olberman, things I promised not 733 00:46:58,915 --> 00:47:14,715 Speaker 1: to tell. I've done all the damage I can do here. 734 00:47:14,755 --> 00:47:17,795 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Follow me for the podcast promos. 735 00:47:18,115 --> 00:47:22,595 Speaker 1: The videos now on TikTok, Blue Sky, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, x, 736 00:47:22,675 --> 00:47:27,395 Speaker 1: Instagram threads, and of course Blue You. I believe that's 737 00:47:27,395 --> 00:47:31,355 Speaker 1: the name of Trump's social media platform, isn't it. Please 738 00:47:31,395 --> 00:47:33,475 Speaker 1: send this podcast to somebody who does not know they 739 00:47:33,515 --> 00:47:36,355 Speaker 1: need to listen, but should try to come up with 740 00:47:36,395 --> 00:47:38,715 Speaker 1: something for Tomorrow and Wednesday. There are no guarantees, but 741 00:47:39,275 --> 00:47:43,595 Speaker 1: two hundred thousand people listened and watched Fridays, so I 742 00:47:43,635 --> 00:47:45,675 Speaker 1: got to do something. I suppose. Brian Ray and John 743 00:47:45,715 --> 00:47:50,035 Speaker 1: Phillip Schanel, the musical directors of Countdown, have arranged, produced, 744 00:47:50,035 --> 00:47:53,155 Speaker 1: and performed most of our music. Mister Shanelle is on 745 00:47:53,315 --> 00:47:56,955 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards, Mister Ray on guitars, bass and drums. 746 00:47:57,195 --> 00:48:00,235 Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko brows that our satirical and 747 00:48:00,275 --> 00:48:03,235 Speaker 1: pithy musical comments are by the best baseball stadium organists ever, 748 00:48:03,395 --> 00:48:06,875 Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The sports music is the Ulderman theme from 749 00:48:07,075 --> 00:48:10,755 Speaker 1: ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN Inc. 750 00:48:11,275 --> 00:48:14,475 Speaker 1: Other music arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. 751 00:48:15,075 --> 00:48:18,155 Speaker 1: My announcer today was my friend John Dean. Everything else 752 00:48:18,235 --> 00:48:21,515 Speaker 1: was pretty much my fault. The podcast was produced by 753 00:48:22,115 --> 00:48:29,475 Speaker 1: in Studio Kit. That's countdown for today, one one day 754 00:48:29,995 --> 00:48:33,155 Speaker 1: until the twenty twenty four presidential election. I'm sure it 755 00:48:33,195 --> 00:48:37,315 Speaker 1: will be fine and the three hundred and ninety ninth 756 00:48:37,395 --> 00:48:41,955 Speaker 1: day since convicted felon dissociative fugue Jay Trump got away 757 00:48:42,955 --> 00:48:45,915 Speaker 1: with his first attempted coup against the democratically elected government 758 00:48:45,955 --> 00:48:50,515 Speaker 1: of the United States. Use your vote, use the mental 759 00:48:50,555 --> 00:48:54,155 Speaker 1: health system, use presidential immunity, mister Biden to keep him 760 00:48:54,155 --> 00:48:57,435 Speaker 1: from doing this again while we still have a chance 761 00:48:57,555 --> 00:49:04,875 Speaker 1: to stop the mother, etc. The next scheduled count down 762 00:49:04,955 --> 00:49:07,275 Speaker 1: as tomorrow bulletins as the news requires. Till then, I'm 763 00:49:07,315 --> 00:49:11,435 Speaker 1: Keith Alberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck. 764 00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:23,835 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olberman is a production of iHeartRadio. For 765 00:49:23,995 --> 00:49:29,075 Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 766 00:49:29,195 --> 00:49:31,155 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.