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Speaker 1: Iron Wrap Coorp Podcast. So I think collectively I would

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Speaker 1: love to give it up for Raging Bully. UM and

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Speaker 1: the Crest Theater, thanks for hosting us, sincerely. What a

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Speaker 1: beautiful movie theater In this day and age of you know,

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Speaker 1: watching movies on Apple TV and computers and phones, so

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Speaker 1: what a what A what a beautiful movie? Theori feels

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Speaker 1: very traditional and and uh uh you know, especially for

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Speaker 1: who had never seen the movie before that it was

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Speaker 1: to see uh, you know what something some of you

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Speaker 1: I know that Gimo Nettie if you haven't, so, I

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Speaker 1: know there's more people here. Uh, We're gonna give the

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Speaker 1: impression to the podcasting audience across the globe that there's like,

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Speaker 1: it sound like it's seven sixties. So we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: extra loud and ship. So like the podcasting community out

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Speaker 1: there is like funk Man that sounds like a cool

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Speaker 1: night at the christ with Rappaport and raging Bull. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ship should have been here, so um so, so thank you,

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Speaker 1: the building. So when was the last time you saw

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Speaker 1: that movie two years ago? And what's your impression? Because

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Speaker 1: with me and me and Gerald and the interesting thing

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, yes, why this movie? What

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Speaker 1: does this movie do for you? It's a good question.

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Speaker 1: See that's why Gi Monettie one two thousand and fifteen

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Speaker 1: podcast co host of the Year. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 1: you're the fucking black at McMahon and I'm actually, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, I'm the white Arsenio

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Speaker 1: uh Mark Walbert took out his loaf. All thaves do matter.

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Speaker 1: You guys know that Iron Rapport podcast. All thaves really

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Speaker 1: do matter, All overs matter? Um. So that's why I

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Speaker 1: to do what? I imagine the conversation Martin Scorsese his

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Speaker 1: he's a talker, right, Paul? Yeah? Alright. So my friend Um,

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Speaker 1: met in true Romance. We met a true romance. But

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Speaker 1: you go, no, you go, well, true Romance. Then I

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Speaker 1: yourself literally in a room like with my dog, you know,

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422
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Speaker 1: then I was like, yo, Gerald, you gotta come on

423
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Speaker 1: the podcast because we've been talking ship and I find

424
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Speaker 1: World to be one of the top three people in

425
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Speaker 1: terms of funniness that I know that will consistently have

426
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Speaker 1: me under a table. Thank you much, no problem. But

427
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean you're killing tonight. So everybody could totally understand

428
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Speaker 1: why I thought that you're fucking tearing it up. Man,

429
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Speaker 1: You're just helping me and holding it down. And my

430
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Speaker 1: voice doesn't hurt. It's fine. I'll talk for an hour

431
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Speaker 1: and a half. It's fucking cool. G No, it's fun.

432
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Speaker 1: Um but uh, I was like, yo, gee, come on

433
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434
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435
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Speaker 1: tonight just destroyed no. Um. But but he's had many many,

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Speaker 1: know that that's the first big film that Joe Pesci

457
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Speaker 1: was in? Did did you? Did? Some people not know?

458
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,199
Speaker 1: Not going in tonight? How crazy is that that? That

459
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Speaker 1: has his first performance? It was a small sort of independent,

460
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Speaker 1: barely seen movie that he was in before that. And

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462
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Speaker 1: Academy Award nomination, Academy Out of the like out of

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Speaker 1: the box he was. He was nominated for that role. Yeah,

464
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Speaker 1: of course. Um see Iron Rapports Stereo podcast coming live

465
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Speaker 1: in I want to take a question. Toby Morris, come

466
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Speaker 1: up to the mic, or speak this to just other

467
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Speaker 1: people at home, because again, those who are missing out

468
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: on this night, it's a fucking packed house. So Toby Morris,

469
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Speaker 1: lead singer of H two, good friend of the Iron

470
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Speaker 1: Rapport podcast more than That, one of the most genuinely

471
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Speaker 1: good and positive people that you'll ever meet. So Toby Moore,

472
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Speaker 1: that's for real, Like I mean, is that? Well, my

473
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: question is not about this movie. You know what the

474
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: question is gonna be about. Oh yeah, all right, let

475
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: me just prefaces. Toby is the absolute biggest True Romance

476
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: fan and his wife. Toby and his wife are the

477
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: absolute biggest tru Romance fan. And sometimes they think like

478
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: they're fucking Clarence in Alabama and I'm actually Dick Ritchie.

479
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: It gets so fucking weird. I'm like, yo, my man,

480
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. You're not fucking Clarence. But he's he's

481
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: he's You're. If you were doing a screening get the

482
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Crest Theater, you would definitely True Romance. All Like, that's

483
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: his movie? All right, So asked Paul the question, both

484
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: of you guys. Okay, So True Romance was James Garofini's

485
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: first movie ever. Correct, Yes, I believe, or he might

486
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 1: have had a tiny part in something else, but I

487
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: mean it was it was his first part, but it

488
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: might have been his first part ever. There was a film.

489
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I might be speaking on a term, but it was

490
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: either a film that he did right after True Romance

491
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: or before Truman's, but it was certainly his first substantial

492
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: part um in a in a big movie. Do you

493
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: guys have any memories of working with him on that movie?

494
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: Did you work with him, come across him? Yeah, because

495
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 1: I was. You know, when I'm in that one big

496
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: scene with walking and Hopper right and he cuts. You know,

497
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you're in one of the most iconic fucking scenes. I'm Luca,

498
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm Luca. I'm I'm the behind the couch. So I

499
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: forget that ship that you're in that scene. I was

500
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: in it, and Gandelfini was in Itfi. You know, I'll

501
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: tell you what my memory of him was, is that

502
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: number one he and I say this, I mean in

503
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the most loving and daring way. He had a goon

504
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: like quality. He was big, big shoulders and at the time,

505
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: you know, thin, big shoulders, big hands and very quiet,

506
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: very quiet. So when you you know, like that set,

507
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: it was such a h. I mean being on that set.

508
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: I know that I would show up when it wasn't.

509
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: I was there the day when you did this stuff

510
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: in the trailer because I wanted because everybody knew the

511
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: scene in the trailer was gonna be the fucking scene.

512
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: So I showed up to the set that day and

513
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: you were on. You were on a set in the trailer.

514
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: It wasn't a real set, it wasn't shot on location.

515
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Speaker 1: It was a set. And I just remember talking to

516
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: gain Lefeenie. I got to know him a little bit

517
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: more in a film we did after. I like talking

518
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: to him about that experience. Quiet, low key and and

519
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: and always was so worried about what he did. And

520
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: the last time I saw Candell Foenie, he told me

521
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: he never saw a true romance. That bugged me out.

522
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't see a lot of my ship,

523
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,239
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, And I heard, uh, Like

524
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I sort of got to that point where I don't

525
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Speaker 1: see my ship, but that's just because of the quality

526
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: of my ship. I'm kidding. I'm fucking it's too easy.

527
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, fucking. The improv is down the street, the

528
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: comedy starts up. I should just go there, boom boom boom,

529
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: just get him kill. It's just not even. It's too easy.

530
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: That's why I retired from comedy in the first place.

531
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: It is too fucking easy. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding,

532
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: even fucking kidding, filling the laugh. Miles mom talking to

533
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: Miles my sound guy. He's Asian. His name is Miles Davis.

534
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: Give it up, Miles Davis, the only Asian sound guy

535
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: in California. It's unbelievable. One week he Miles, like Chinese,

536
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: but you're a half something, half something, and what's the

537
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: other half? Right, Okay, all right, it doesn't sound as

538
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: good Miles Davis, my white sound guy. It's just I

539
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: get a laugh because sometimes I say, Miles Davis, my my,

540
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: my Chinese sound guy, and then like I'm not Chinese

541
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: and calf Japanese and like, what the last time you

542
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: told me you were a fucking Persian? I don't know,

543
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: you're half all right, that's on the record now, all right.

544
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: So that was my thing with Gamdelafini. He was always

545
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: quite like he was neurotic, but quietly neurotic, and like

546
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: a goon, like a big but a sweetheart, sweetheart. So

547
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: I had those couple of days with him, you know,

548
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: working with him on on True Moments, watching him. I

549
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: was there the day he beat up Patri Charquette character

550
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: and that was an intense day. Um. And what do

551
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: you remember, I mean just specifically about Gamdelafonia and what

552
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: do you remember about being in one of the most

553
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: iconic scenes in film of the last thirty years? And

554
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: I could you could really say that, like, yo, that's

555
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: a scene like you say that Christopher walking Dennis Hopper scene.

556
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: People know what the fun you're talking about? Scene I get.

557
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 1: I get little notices all the time, Hey, would you

558
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: uh sign off because they want to use it for

559
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: some uh you know, lecture at some school. You know,

560
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: it's being used for theater class is and stuff, so

561
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: you know, or get a residual for it from four

562
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: because it was used in some college somewhere or some symposium.

563
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: I never got asked about and them Dick Ritchie ship. Ever,

564
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: there's money in that ship? You think it all? Yeah,

565
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: you know you're talking about side money. Maybe maybe I

566
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: had a little little Russian thing under the table. But

567
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: because I played Luca, the Italian cousin who doesn't speak English,

568
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: so I was I kind of just not consciously, but

569
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: I was walking around not really listening, not understanding anybody

570
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: because I didn't speak. So I was walking on people

571
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: were talking stuff, and I was like kind of have

572
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: not deaf, but I'm making like I'm in a foreign country.

573
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't understand what anybody's saying. Since since the number

574
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: one true Romance fan is asking you this question, do

575
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: you regret that approach to that that time in your

576
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: life and your career that's sort of methodical acting? And

577
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: did you? Because I mean I would have been soaking

578
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: that up and fucking I would have been doing the

579
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: talking about like a little side. I'd have been doing

580
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: the lecture circuit and hording my out, myself out doing

581
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: podcasts and stuff like that. You should do that. No,

582
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm just playing. Oh no, what do you remember about

583
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: the walking the walking um hopper, you know, like the

584
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: banter back forth, Like yeah, I'm telling you, I was

585
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: sitting there going, you know, I don't know what's going on,

586
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: you know, I just because I'm not understanding, right, So

587
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: I was just standing there going, you know, like I'm

588
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: just waiting for somebody to tell me to shoot something,

589
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But then he tells me to go outside.

590
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: So I wasn't in the scene for for a third

591
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: of it or however long. And then I come back

592
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: in because he says, tell look to go outside and

593
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: doing you know what, which people ask me. I don't

594
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: know what the funk he was asking me to do?

595
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: You know what, I don't know, go look around, That's

596
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 1: what I thought he was saying. But but you know,

597
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: it was and I always do. And I didn't know

598
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: where I was. See, you'd been doing movies a lot

599
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: more before. I was like, not much. I've done like

600
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: two or three before that. And then that was that

601
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: was like the ship though, Yeah, but I didn't know that.

602
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: I showed it up and I was like, you just

603
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: think that the fucking script with Quentin Tarantino and Christopher

604
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Walking like it was just another date. He wasn't a

605
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: big star yet, but I you knew, like he had

606
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: done Reservoir Dogs, Natural Bone Killers had been shot. It

607
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: was Tony Scott and and I mean for me, it

608
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: was like I couldn't even believe I was in a

609
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: room that Val Kilmer and Christopher Walking were even I

610
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: couldn't believe I was there, like just for the audition

611
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, ship, they're gonna be in this movie.

612
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: I was tripping the funk out. I mean, that was crazy.

613
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know any of that because I had a

614
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: little I had a little meeting with first. I went

615
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: in and read for Gamdela Fini's part. Oh, and I

616
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 1: memorized that whole fucking scene. Not that I was gonna

617
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: get it, but that's the scene they gave me. It

618
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: was two pages, and I remember one of those scenes

619
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: where he had long monologue going. I fucking memorized it.

620
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: And then I get called, literally a month later, out

621
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: of nowhere, Tony Scott wants to meet with you, and

622
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: he says, uh, I am speak any Italian, my you

623
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: know whatever like that Australian guy right rest in peace

624
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: of course, And then uh, I had just done a

625
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: pilot where I had to say a few things in Sicilian,

626
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: know my good stay in bluetoo. Motiver said, I forgot

627
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: what I said, and then he said, great, great, we'll

628
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Speaker 1: call you. We'll call you Luca. And he just named

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Speaker 1: me right there and then and basically offered it to

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Speaker 1: me in the room. That was cool, That is cool,

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Speaker 1: because great, you'll be good in this You know, we'll

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Speaker 1: call you, Luca, We'll call you know. He came up

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Speaker 1: with it, and I was like, and I still didn't

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Speaker 1: know because it wasn't a big part, and I thought, oh,

635
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Speaker 1: this is cool. I wasn't that excited until ten years

636
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: later when everybody said this movie is iconic, still talking

637
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, you know. I mean I was into it,

638
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: but I was agatting walking around like very new, very green.

639
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Speaker 1: I hadn't done you know, probably five other little smaller parts.

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Speaker 1: So it was it was it was a special set

641
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Speaker 1: to be on. I remember, like you had done zebra

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Speaker 1: had you had done some did zebra But it was

643
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Speaker 1: like zebra Head with me and actors who had never

644
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Speaker 1: done Ship. So it wasn't like, oh Ship, there's the

645
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Speaker 1: fucking guy who's playing my you know. It was a

646
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Speaker 1: different level of excitement because it was like also more

647
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Speaker 1: of a student and you knew who was the players world. Yeah,

648
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: yeah it was. But even like Michael Beach, I was like, Yo,

649
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Speaker 1: that's Michael Beach, Like I knew Michael Beach. Wasn't that

650
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: everybody was in that movie, even Sam Jackson. I was like,

651
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: why Sam Jackson doing five lines? And and I remember

652
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: being uh, I was in the makeup trailer and Gary Oldman,

653
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Speaker 1: who was playing Drexel, was asking me, uh because here

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Speaker 1: her At the time, I was if you think I

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Speaker 1: speak English poorly now? Like it's just like ninety four.

656
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Speaker 1: I sounded like shit. I was like, yo, yo yo,

657
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Speaker 1: I don't speak like that anymore, yo yo yo. Fucking

658
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Speaker 1: ship yo, fucking true man, it's a ship playing Dick

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Speaker 1: Richie and ship you know how many motherfucker's I beat

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Speaker 1: out for this part and ship the mother This is

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Speaker 1: my in my head, my anna, I'm walking around like this.

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Speaker 1: But then I walked into the trailer and Gary Oldman

663
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Speaker 1: was there and he was like when he was Gary Oldman,

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Speaker 1: not that he's not Gary Olman now, but like this

665
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Speaker 1: is like he was in his fucking prime and he

666
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Speaker 1: was and I was just like I just couldn't believe it.

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00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: I just couldn't believe it. It It was just a fun time,

668
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,320
Speaker 1: a fun movie and uh, you know met you met

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Speaker 1: Chris Penn, met top Size, more, met Tony Scott, you know,

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Speaker 1: every everybody was just an exciting, exciting time. Mean, if

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Speaker 1: if if that would have been a talk about an

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Speaker 1: instagram able movie set to be on Like if you

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Speaker 1: James Gambafini. You know this motherfucker's sake. I mean, the

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Speaker 1: team lost tonight. By the way, by the way, stay

685
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Speaker 1: up here. Yeah, who else? Got any other questions in

686
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: general about Raging Bull? The wire right there? How do

687
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: you feel like this movie would play if it was

688
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: released today to modern audiences in general? That's a good question.

689
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll let you you could answer it, Paul,

690
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: And I mean, if this movie came out now, Imagine

691
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Speaker 1: this movie comes out now and it's two hours in

692
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: something minutes long, and it's it's it's not a cutty.

693
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: It's not a cutty. Oh yeah, But imagine if it

694
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Speaker 1: came out now for the first time. I'm just trying

695
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 1: to think it would be straight to video. No, that's no.

696
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking that it came out now, couldn't. It's yo,

697
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Speaker 1: movies come out like this. You say what you say,

698
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: because we're gonna debate. It's beyond that good. It's it's

699
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,760
Speaker 1: beyond like. Yeah, there's some wonderful, interesting, little indie type

700
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: black and white movies that come out. Although that that

701
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Speaker 1: one the one best picture, that Silent Movie a couple

702
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: of years ago that I really wasn't a fan of,

703
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Speaker 1: you know, the black and white the artist. We actually

704
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Speaker 1: have the director Philippe come in you weren't a fan

705
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Speaker 1: of you could talk to was his name Phelippe. He

706
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Speaker 1: feels like his name, Remember that fucking guy during the

707
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Speaker 1: Oscars he was like Philip every fucking show, like the

708
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Speaker 1: Golden Globe, set the funk down, let me see your paperwork?

709
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: You what happened to that movie? Well? So, but I

710
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: just think it's so it's such a masterpiece. It's so good,

711
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: which still rise above you know whatever is today the

712
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: Star Wars. I mean it would people would still find

713
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Speaker 1: it and it would become like the King's speech a

714
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: couple of years over right, it was that good. It

715
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Speaker 1: became a blockbuster, you know, the the you know the

716
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: reality of it. When the movie actually did come out,

717
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't a financial success. It got it got it

718
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Speaker 1: got bigger, but financially it wasn't de Niro one best

719
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Speaker 1: pick best actor. But again, you know, ordinary people beat it.

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Speaker 1: I mean the fact that it was nominated shows that

721
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Speaker 1: the climate was different. But imagine in this day and age,

722
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Speaker 1: this movie comes out in this politically correct climate and

723
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Speaker 1: you have your star physically abusing his his his wife

724
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Speaker 1: and you know, and and all that stuff. It wouldn't

725
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Speaker 1: be Imagine the fucking response. Imagine that. I imagine the

726
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Speaker 1: response from you know, the the the the politically correct,

727
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Speaker 1: you know Williamsburg crowd. Not to say that it say

728
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: it should be any different, you know, because the abuse

729
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Speaker 1: in the movie, like I said, once it gets to

730
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Speaker 1: the physical abuse on the wife, it becomes like, oh ship,

731
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: this isn't just sucking some crazy guy. This is like,

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Speaker 1: you know, it takes a step in the other direction.

733
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Speaker 1: But I the film, the film lasted the test of time,

734
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Speaker 1: like like he says in the movie you never got

735
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: me down right, like it ages like fucking fine wine.

736
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Speaker 1: And the beauty of it, the black and white of it,

737
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Speaker 1: the performance of it. It ages. So I don't know,

738
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Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't think that. Who would how

739
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Speaker 1: would you get this movie made? Now? It wouldn't be

740
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Speaker 1: able to get made. You wouldn't be able to shut

741
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: down production. Who would be an actor and a director

742
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: tandem that would take that would be like that that

743
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Speaker 1: could afford the comforts of making a movie for a

744
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Speaker 1: year and a half. I just I just don't see

745
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Speaker 1: you could happen. I mean, there's a lot, so many

746
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: great things. It's just a different kind of movie. In

747
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: two hours and twenty minutes, if nothing's blowing up the

748
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Speaker 1: theatersm now, you gotta cut that and it's in black

749
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 1: and white? The fuck two hours and twenty minutes, something's

750
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: gotta blow up, or somebody's got to go to the

751
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: movie some thing, or there's gotta be like a loaf

752
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: shot something smoking magnificence. It's gotta happen. That might happen

753
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: if it was out today, it would be it may

754
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: it may have a tougher a tougher time being made.

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00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: It definitely was a magical time. Every frame was like

756
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: almost like a magic trick. I saw I watching it tonight.

757
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: I said, this is beyond all right, you know, it's

758
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: just beyond it. The the the thing that trips me out,

759
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: and we could take more questions, the thing that trips

760
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: me out about raging bowl. And and you know, obviously

761
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: I've watched it and all that stuff, and you know,

762
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: with the DVDs and the laser discs and now even

763
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: on the computers, you could look at it frame by

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Speaker 1: frame and all that ship and I know, like it's

765
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: really like because the film itself is shot pretty basic

766
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: outside of the boxing ring, but some of those shots

767
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: in the ring, the camera revolves three sixty and then

768
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: it compans. There's so much happening and you don't feel

769
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: any of the cuts. And of course Scorsese was in

770
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: sync with his with his editor, Thelma Shan Mocker maker Um,

771
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: and they were like that was another relationship that was thriving.

772
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't just de Niro and Scorsese. He was Filma

773
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: and and and and and and and uh and and Scorsese.

774
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: That was like something that they were in their fucking pocket.

775
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: Um so, I mean, and you know there's other great films,

776
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: there's plenty of other great films systems he was. Mr

777
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: Scorsese told me about going to Woodstock where he was

778
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: an editor with Thelma on it. Right. I think he

779
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: was hurt something the movie would stock, the rock and

780
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: roll they and he was talking about being backstage with

781
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: her and in the rain and they couldn't get to

782
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: their car for three days because you know, the traffic jam,

783
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: and he hung out backstage with Hendrix Ship. Claudia. Claudia

784
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: took me to go see Why would you take a

785
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: ten year old to go see Raging Bulls? Claudia? Why?

786
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: You know? Because I was bored? Yeah, I know, to

787
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: see what would happen. Michael, Did you know that nz

788
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: Gosha's mother, that's my stepdaughter, Uh was going out with

789
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: Martin Scorsese when they did Woodstock and and I all

790
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: that ship? Yes I did. Okay, that's that's not a question, Claudie.

791
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: And nothing. I did know that, Yes, I did know.

792
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I grilled her too. Okay, she's gonna

793
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: be at Christmas? Oh good, Okay, but what do you

794
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: get dad, I'm just doing uh more. I'm gonna take

795
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: two more questions and then we're gonna shut it down,

796
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: and uh I'm gonna go, uh find out why my

797
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: fantasy team lost. Funked up. I lost the fantasy football.

798
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: It's like fucking drugs. It's terrible. Yeah, I feel for you.

799
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: It's bullshit. I love it. I have a love hate

800
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: relationship with it. What's the question, my friend? I'm on

801
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: a J. Moody's favorite drink over there. Hopefully this isn't

802
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: a stupid question. But you've talked about how great Raging

803
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: bull is. I just want to know how much. How

804
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: has it um affected you as an actor or influence

805
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: you as an actor? Like, I don't know even ten

806
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: years old, when you saw it, did you know then

807
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to be an actor? Or like later on,

808
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: when you knew you did it, how did it affect you?

809
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Um, I didn't know I wanted

810
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: to be an actor, Like when I I remember this.

811
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: First of all, I had been in love with Rocky

812
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: and Rocky too, I believe came out around the same

813
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: period of this, so I had loved That was why

814
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: I believe my sister took me to the movie, like

815
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: and also she's probably babysitting. She probably had she wanted

816
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: to see it. And I remember seeing the movie. I

817
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: mean imagine seeing this as a ten year old in

818
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: a theater, not on a DVD where you could escape

819
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 1: and go to the bathroom, like as a movie going experience.

820
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: When movie going experiences were movie going experiences, it was

821
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: like the whole day was scheduled around going to the movie.

822
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: I just remember enjoying it on an emotional level, not

823
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: understanding it at all, um, you know, as far as personally.

824
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: To be totally honest, you know, I feel like and

825
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: and one of the people that I talked to on

826
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: this podcast uh that that we're doing tomorrow, I was,

827
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: I was talking like, why men look at this film

828
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 1: and it's not like it's the Lone Ranger, It's not Batman.

829
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: And I don't think we put this Jake Glomatic character

830
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: on a pedestal, but I have to believe to a

831
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: certain extent that men are gonna view this film differently

832
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: and view this Jake Glomatic character different than a woman.

833
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: And and and to answer your question, I was like,

834
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, like and asking Why would I? Why am

835
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: I still talking about this movie? Why am I? Why

836
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: are we? Why is it something that means so much

837
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 1: to me? And and and more so than it inspired

838
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: me as an actor, because I think every actor watches

839
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: this movie and and and and and drools with just

840
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, adoration and hopes, dreams and whimsical you know,

841
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: things like you just wish you could have the part

842
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: working with h and that great opportunity. But the thing

843
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: about the character, his um sort of self sabotaging, his

844
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: jealousy is insecurities in a weird way, I related to

845
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: that more and before I really even knew what DeNiro

846
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: was doing. Um, that's not necessarily a good thing, but

847
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: but it's the reality of it. And I think that's

848
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: why men, you know, while why why we respond to

849
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: this movie differently than women, It's because we don't necessarily

850
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: like we're not like admiring the Jay Clamatta character, but

851
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: we can relate to it. You can relate to that

852
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: that that that fucking bottom bear, you know, like sort

853
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: of jealousy and that rawness and that insecurity. I think,

854
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: on your on your whether you want to admit it,

855
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: but on your worst day, your best day when you're

856
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: when you maybe it's just to yourself when you're laying

857
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: on a pillow. Every man has has had those kinds of,

858
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, feelings, and I think that's what I related

859
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: to more, you know, a strange way. Um And and

860
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 1: that's what I think is is I think for me

861
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: titilating um to to explore I said titillating? Is that

862
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: the right way to say it? Yeah? Fun No. But

863
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: the fact that I I don't think I ever I

864
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: know for sure. I never got a diploma in high school.

865
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 1: I don't think they because I owed books and Martin

866
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: Luther King high school, you know, you had two hand

867
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: in your books. And I remember somehow I got into

868
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 1: some fucking flunky college and then they were like, we're

869
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 1: not going to give you the diploma unless you pay

870
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: the sixty three dollars for your books. And I wasn't

871
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: gonna go back to the fucking school. They might fucking

872
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: arrest me for something. Who the fuck knows this is?

873
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: This is? You know, I mean, I was, I was

874
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: that was I was on the line. You know, anything

875
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: could have happened. So the fact that I said titillating

876
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: is just a big thing it's a big it's an

877
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: intellectual expression. You're wearing glasses. I'm saying titling Like we've

878
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: grown since that fucking fucking set, that true romance set.

879
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,800
Speaker 1: So that that to answer your question. But as an actor,

880
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: like there's no actor director who's ever seen that movie

881
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: or actress and not admired it. It might not be

882
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: his is like their favorite favorite thing, but there's no

883
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: actor that's not like that's like, that's it. When you

884
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: talk about method acting, you talk about a performance by

885
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: a mall, that's it. When you talk about camera movement

886
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: direction like, that's it. It might not be your favorite thing.

887
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: You might you know, go different comedy, but like you're

888
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna go through that phase of like, yo, look at

889
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: fucking de Niro day and I don't say this. I

890
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: worked with Robert de Niro twice. I've had dinner with

891
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: him a couple of times and ship, and I've never

892
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: mentioned Raging Bull to him. I knew better because he's

893
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: fucking roppertunity. He don't want to hear this ship. But

894
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: I was on a plane with him one time and

895
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,879
Speaker 1: he happened to be sitting next to me, and I

896
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: swear to God, I was like, you know, he was

897
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,280
Speaker 1: talking my fucking earwolfs to me. I'm on a plane.

898
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm doing this movie called Navy Diver, Men of Honor.

899
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 1: It was the first title was Navy Diver. We're shooting

900
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: the movie, and and and uh, first class. I'll tell

901
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: you what happened. DeNiro finished like at six that night.

902
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: We were gonna we were gonna go all night. They

903
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: got him out so he could catch the last flight

904
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: so that everything was scheduled to boom. DeNiro wraps. We

905
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: shoot until three thirty in the morning. Um, I catch

906
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: the next, the next, the first flight in the morning,

907
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: which is like six. I go from from the set

908
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: with my bags to the airport and all I want

909
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: to do is plane takeoff. I'm in first class. Plane takeoff.

910
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: I want to go to sleep. I've been literally been

911
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: up all night shooting a scene in the water. It's

912
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: just like I would just want the plane take off,

913
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: and I'm and I'm I'm like it's a small first class,

914
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: but his first class, and I'm just just take this

915
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: thing off. I want to go to sleep, and I

916
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: want to get back to New York. And as the

917
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: plane is, you know, you know, the gear belting down

918
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 1: and they're starting, you know, I see somebody. I'm like, oh, ship,

919
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: that looks like Bob. And I'm like, oh, ship, that

920
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: is Bob. And I had already noticed that no one

921
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: was sitting next to me, so I was like, I'm

922
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna get a funking. I'm in first class and I

923
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: got two seats. This is gonna be a great flight.

924
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you know, like my adrenaline, I'm twenty nine,

925
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: Like my adrenaline is like, oh fun. Denro's gonna come

926
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: sit next to me on and I had already been

927
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: working with him the night before. So he sits down

928
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,439
Speaker 1: next to me, Hey, Mike, you know, and he would

929
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: greet me. I swear to guy, I'm not bullshiting. You're

930
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: probably like, this is bullshit. But he would greet me

931
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: with like a like a like a little kiss on

932
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: the cheek. So I'm just like the fact that that's happening.

933
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: You're talking about like Scorre say, you know, I'm tripping

934
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 1: the funk out. So I'm sitting next to the nero

935
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 1: the whole time, and I swear, I'm saying to myself,

936
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: don't fucking talk to him. Don't say fucking Jake Glamata,

937
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,959
Speaker 1: don't say raging bull, don't don't Travis, No, he would

938
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: have fucking it would have been the beginning of the end.

939
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to talk about that ship. Can you

940
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: imagine being up He missed his flight. So I'm reading

941
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: Vibe magazine sitting next I have my magazines. I'm so

942
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: freaked out that he he's talking to me and all

943
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: he wants to do Vibe magazines a magazine in the nineties,

944
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, it's like hip hop magazines girls and and

945
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: I say this in all due respect, all he wanted

946
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 1: to talk to me about who's that girl? Who's that girl?

947
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I'm like, He's like, you know where.

948
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't fucking She's in a clairol ad

949
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: but I don't know. In my head, I'm saying this.

950
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: So then I get off the plane. So this goes on.

951
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: He's totally sweet. I'm about to have my first son.

952
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,760
Speaker 1: He's talking to me about being a parent and lah lahlah,

953
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: and it's just very sort of casual, but he's talking.

954
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: I want to go to I'm gonna shut the funk up, Bob,

955
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: we just shut the funk off. I want to go

956
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: to sleep. Enough already, I'm now I'm reading supports those

957
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: ship I don't know who she is, Serena somebody I

958
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: don't know. Just fucking stop. You know, in my head

959
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying this, but I'm like, I'm like, are bullshitting

960
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: but nice? Sweet? I want to do de Niro festival

961
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: and like you get people to show up like you

962
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 1: could come in any fucking costume you want, and then

963
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: like I wanted, my dream is to get like little

964
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: kids to work through the Joe pesci Niros. You funk

965
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: my wife, but like have nine year olds do it?

966
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 1: Imagine that like you get like some nine year old kid,

967
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm asking you. I'm gonna ask your answer all the

968
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 1: right questions. You're not gonna answer the right way. I

969
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: think it would be great. So so then we get

970
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: off the plane. He has like one garment bag, and

971
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: as soon as we get off the plane, the person

972
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,399
Speaker 1: who is supposed to be there for him isn't there.

973
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: So now I'm like I said to him, I said,

974
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: I'll walk you, Bob, I got you, because I'm like,

975
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna protect my fucking guy. I love

976
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: this fucking guy. It's like Dr J Muhammad Ali, fucking

977
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: fucking Tony Monaro, Robert DeNiro. I'm like, I'm gonna I'm

978
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: gonna get his bag. You know, he's not that big.

979
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: We're walking through the airport, I'm like, we're gonna find him,

980
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: don't worry, you know. And we're walking through and I'm like, think,

981
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shield everybody from Robert DeNiro. I don't want

982
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 1: anyone funking with him because I know he doesn't want

983
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: to be funed with. And the only paper that they

984
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 1: want to talk to through the airport is me. No

985
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: one recognized Robert DeNiro one time. That's the magic of

986
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 1: him because in real life he sort of disappears. All right,

987
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: this can be the last question. Then we're gonna shut

988
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: it down. Uh well, first of all, this experience meeting

989
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: Michael Rapp report, thanks to my friend Jordan's, the producer

990
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: told me to come out. I'm gonna tell the story

991
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 1: you just told about DeNiro about while standing there watching

992
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: you do de Niro as Michael Rapp reports, those pretty

993
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: dopes at that um. But based on the movie, this

994
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: is the first time I ever saw it. The first

995
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: time watching it, so one thing that stands out is

996
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: that movies a lot of times nowadays or even TV shows,

997
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 1: they really hit you over the head with like here

998
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: is the point, Here's where you're supposed to pay attention,

999
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: Here's where the music cues up, you know what I'm saying.

1000
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: And in that movie, if you watch it, there's just

1001
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: like ship happens and you kind of are like, what

1002
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: the why, Like what is going on? You're just watching

1003
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: it trying to figure out this character. So if you

1004
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: were showing it to someone for the first time, what

1005
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: would like do you think some of that now, Like

1006
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 1: for a kid who's fifteen, who everything has been babied

1007
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: for them, explaining you know, themes when they're supposed to

1008
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: be upset, when they're supposed to be scared, do you

1009
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: think that's more powerful or now that kids would just

1010
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: totally miss it. I think they miss it to the

1011
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: kids would miss it today, But I still think a

1012
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: little bit more grown up, mature audience would still consider

1013
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: it a message. You know. It's interesting when when I

1014
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: because my kids have heard me talk about that movie,

1015
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: and then a couple of years ago, I was watching

1016
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: or was on TV and we were like flipping through

1017
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes more and and and I remember

1018
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: my kids they were probably like eleven and thirteen. They

1019
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: they got it the same way I got. Like they

1020
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: were asking me questions, Well, why is he doing this?

1021
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: Is that real? Is he really? Did he really? You know?

1022
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: But there was something that drew drew them in about it.

1023
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it was about me, Like

1024
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: I didn't still different the sons of an actor. And

1025
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: that's true, that's true. But but but but but I

1026
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,919
Speaker 1: I could tell they were there was something I think

1027
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: again like there's it's more of that movie. It's because

1028
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: things don't there's not big plot points, nothing truly happens,

1029
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: you know, Like I mean, there are things happen, but

1030
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: it's more of a feeling. Like it's like a feeling

1031
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: like more than anything, I think he created a mood

1032
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: those quiet moments, you know, the looks, the subtle slow

1033
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: motion you're creating this mood, this tension, this, this, this

1034
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: uh neuroses. You know that slow motion that he was doing,

1035
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 1: it's creating this. You know, it influenced people, and you

1036
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,880
Speaker 1: see Scorsese's influence in influences like Elia Kazan And you know,

1037
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 1: I could tell you I'm probably the only person, uh

1038
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: who has because this is just where I'm at in

1039
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: my life who has the Raging Bowl laser disc and

1040
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: the laser disc. For some reason, when it was put

1041
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 1: on DVD, the the extra ship wasn't put on the DVD.

1042
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: And you know, like I learned from the laser disc. Uh.

1043
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: You know, if you look at on the waterfront, when

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Speaker 1: Marlon Brando was on the roof, we what's her name, Eva,

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Speaker 1: Marie Saint that her name Claudia, you know, and they're

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Speaker 1: up there and with the pigeons and the and the fence,

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Speaker 1: that's where he got the idea for when you know,

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Speaker 1: when he meets, that's where he got Yeah, he wanted

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Speaker 1: that like that. Yes, I mean so you feel other

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Speaker 1: people's influence and it all just and he but he's

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Speaker 1: not stealing. He made it his own. Um. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what else to say. Uh. I think this is uh,

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Speaker 1: this is this has been a great pot because I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you coming up here. I like when you can

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Speaker 1: you just put your glasses on because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: it's better for everybody see here. Um No, but I

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys coming. Um. You know, I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you uh you got to see the film. Um I

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Speaker 1: I you know, meet me and Gimo and Eddie. Um again,

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Speaker 1: g pipe down, it's my fucking show because you're just

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Speaker 1: chiming in taking a break. But I appreciate everybody come

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Speaker 1: and hope you enjoyed yourself. And you know, you know

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Speaker 1: if you guys want not. The friends of mine who

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Speaker 1: I know by first name basis, we do have soft

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Speaker 1: ass iron wrappport pot has t shirts for for the

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Speaker 1: for the fans and people are not on the first

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Speaker 1: thame basis with and todays for coming. You got you

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Speaker 1: can sit on the music mouth