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Speaker 1: Football is about the Jimmies and Joes and xs and

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Speaker 1: o's check New York plenty, ain't banker, Bruce. It's time

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Speaker 1: to get out the chopboard and diagram some plays. Here's

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Speaker 1: what all starts right, Here's why jam money Chris. This

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Speaker 1: is Inside Football with former Colts and NFL coach Rick Venturie.

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Speaker 1: We are about a week away from the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: here in twenty twenty two. NFL free agency is more

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Speaker 1: than a month old, and the Colts have made several

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Speaker 1: big moves this off season. They've lost some players in

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Speaker 1: free agency as well, and they're looking at the draft

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Speaker 1: to see how they can infuse the roster with young,

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Speaker 1: impactful talent. All that means we got a lot to

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Speaker 1: get into today with Rick venturi who is back. This

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Speaker 1: is the offseason edition of Inside Football. Rick. Great to

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Speaker 1: have you back on man, It's good to talk to you.

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Speaker 1: How have you been so far this offseason? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've had some ups and downs personally, you know, losing

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Speaker 1: mom and everything. Lost a great cult, but you know,

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Speaker 1: we we recovered. She lived a great life. I've been

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Speaker 1: just thrilled to death professionally. You know, after the depths

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Speaker 1: that we hit on January ninth in Jacksonville. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't remember being lower than that in a long time.

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Speaker 1: But what a magnificent recovery here in the last three months.

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Speaker 1: And you know how I feel about it. It's I'm

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Speaker 1: thrilled the way we've gone about it that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy's all in there has been basically validated by Chris

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Speaker 1: Ballard and what he's done. I mean, I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: we've brought in some really impact guys. Three impact guys

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Speaker 1: for sure, other guys that will play really good roles,

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Speaker 1: but guys that really help you to win. Now that

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Speaker 1: we're not about rebuilding. You know, we're we're about going

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Speaker 1: forward from that situation. And so you know, I think,

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Speaker 1: it was the direction of Jim Mursey all chips in.

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Speaker 1: I think Chris has had his due diligence and his

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Speaker 1: normal persistence. We had some we had some willing cooperatives.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't be thankful enough to the Washington commanders.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, basically by them, you know, making

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Speaker 1: I do, as any way, in my opinion, wasn't going

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Speaker 1: to be here regardless even if we had to bite

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Speaker 1: the contract. But they end up giving us one of

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Speaker 1: financial pain that we would have made, you know. And

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Speaker 1: then you had somebody like Atlanta who's you know, decided

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Speaker 1: that's a huge upgrade. So again, it's been a thrilling

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Speaker 1: It's been a thrilling three months for me professionally, no

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Speaker 1: doubt about it. Yeah, it's been busy and we haven't

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Speaker 1: back to to what you said about your mother, and again,

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Speaker 1: I know we've talked you know, off the air several

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Speaker 1: times this offseason. But again now that we're you know,

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Speaker 1: again condolences to obviously you and you and your family

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Speaker 1: and getting through this this tough time that it has

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Speaker 1: you know, all the Colts. There's a beautiful arrangement that

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Speaker 1: And what you get with Ryan, you know, to me,

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Speaker 1: Gilmore was a shutdown corner. I mean I absolutely loved him.

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Speaker 1: I mean he changed Belichick's whole scheme in New England

427
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 1: from a zone scheme to a hard pressing man to man.

428
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: I mean he impacted that whole franchise and a coach

429
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 1: that's forgot more about defense than most guys. Now, there

430
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 1: is no question we might not be getting that guy

431
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,480
Speaker 1: in nineteen. I watched a lot of tape this week

432
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Speaker 1: on the twenty one Gilmore and he wasn't himself, but

433
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: he still he still was recovering from that quad. I

434
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: know the Colts internally are very confident that they are

435
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 1: getting a whole player, a hungry player, a guy that

436
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: wants to be here. The contract again was worked out.

437
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 1: It's a very solid contract without going overboard like we

438
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,399
Speaker 1: normally do. And so you've got a guy that, even

439
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: if he isn't nineteen, he is going to be a huge,

440
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: huge upgrade for us, you know. And I've always said

441
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: sometimes when you have and you've established that reputation in

442
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: the league, people respect you and they stay away from you.

443
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's it's really funny. Teddy Marshall.

444
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: Brody used to say, if you get a reputation in

445
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: the NFL to be an early riser, you can sleep

446
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: till noon. And there's there's some truth to that. And

447
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: this guy can play. He's a he's a man, tough guy.

448
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: You know that that just makes Kenny better. Uh, And

449
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 1: it's certainly you know Rogers. I'm so happy because I've

450
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: said all along that Rogers was potentially our best corner,

451
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: and I just feel very good about us going forward.

452
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: But I mean, when you talk about Ryan, you talk

453
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 1: about Engockway, and you talk about Gilmore, now you're talking

454
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Speaker 1: about top ten roster guys. You're talking about guys that

455
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: have all had multiple Pro Bowls that can change the game.

456
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: All you gotta do is look at their numbers, and

457
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Speaker 1: because of Gilmore, do the Colts wreck? I mean, I

458
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: know we haven't even had the draft yet, right, so

459
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: it's kind of silly to talk about this stuff. But

460
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: at least on paper, they've upgraded in key areas that

461
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: plagued them last year, right pass rush, slowing down elite

462
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 1: receivers making plays, and crunch time in the fourth quarter,

463
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: giving up high completion percentage. How much have they improved

464
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Speaker 1: on defenses? Do the Colts now have the makings of

465
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Speaker 1: a top whatever defense, top ten, top five defense next season? Well,

466
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: they've They've got a lot of work to do, but

467
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 1: they've taken two big steps. I mean, you get an

468
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Speaker 1: edge rusher with fifty five sacks and you get up

469
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 1: potential shutdown corner. You've taken a gigantic step. And remember,

470
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Speaker 1: if if you want to talk about the Colts problems

471
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: at the end of last year is we couldn't pass

472
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: it and we couldn't stop the pass. So we got

473
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Speaker 1: a guy that can throw it, and we've got two

474
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Speaker 1: guys that really improve the defense. And so now, to me,

475
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: the most important thing is we've got to surround Matt

476
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: Ryan with some guys that can change the game. We

477
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Speaker 1: can get into this when we talk about needs, but

478
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 1: we have to get a receiver corps that is explosive.

479
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: We don't have creators. We've got scheme dependent players, including

480
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 1: Pittman in my mind, although I think Pittman is solid.

481
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: But we need to go out and there's no excuse

482
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Speaker 1: not to get them. We'll get into the draft. This

483
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: is again two years in a row, and I think

484
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: it's just the nature of college football and seven on

485
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: seven camps. But the colleges as they're stamping out receivers

486
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: just left and right, and so you know you want receivers.

487
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: If it were me, I'm probably looking receiver two and

488
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: three because I think, you know, basically the rest of

489
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 1: this team has improved and that and that's the one

490
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: area though that we have to improve or they will eventually.

491
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 1: Like last year, they eventually stopped the running game. I

492
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: do want to get into the draft with you, but

493
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: before we do that, and you've kind of hinted on this,

494
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: you know, the big picture stuff. But to put a

495
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,719
Speaker 1: bow on the off season and all the moves the

496
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: Colts have made with you know, a new defensive coordinator

497
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: and new defensive staff, free agency moves and things like that,

498
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: go big picture just real quick. I mean it's not

499
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: only the players the Colts have signed. They've also lost

500
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: seven free agents this offseason who had been with the

501
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: Colts at least four years under Frank Rank Danny back

502
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: to twenty eighteen. Also, you lost Jack Doyle to retirement.

503
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the losses this offseason for

504
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,399
Speaker 1: the Colts versus the players they've acquired. How much better

505
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: or worse in your eyes have the Colts become this

506
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: offseason in terms of transactions? Well, you know, I don't

507
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: want to be cool as hearted. I mean, don't want

508
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: to lose people. You'd like to be able to keep

509
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: your team Like when I first came to the league

510
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: in eighty two. If you wanted to you keep team

511
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: together for ten years. I mean you you know, you

512
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: had very little movement, But movement today in free agency.

513
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: It's just it's just the cost of doing business. And

514
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: what is important is that you never let your game

515
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: changing corps Taylor, as I said, Taylor Buckner, you know, Leonard,

516
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: you never let those guys out of the building. You

517
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: those are guys that play critical positions and they're tremendous

518
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: players who can make the difference in a game. Then

519
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: you have critical role players, and I think we did

520
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: a good job of keeping a dueling now a Franklin

521
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: A Lewis, a prior Ali Cox. I mean, those guys

522
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,479
Speaker 1: they're not eating necessarily game changers, but they're vital in

523
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: the roles that they play. And so when you lose seven,

524
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: which is part of doing business, okay, and but you

525
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: bring in, you bring seven guys that are in the

526
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: middle of your roster, and you bring it three guys

527
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: at the top of your roster. I'll do that any

528
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: day of the week. Because there are replaceable parts in

529
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean, all the guys that

530
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: we've lost are replaceable parts. And that not that they

531
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: didn't contribute. But we already went out, you know, and

532
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: got a couple of guys. We got Watson King, you know,

533
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: they'll replace Uh, Adams and uh and yeah, so you'll

534
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: you'll replace those guys. Those are replaceable parts. I would

535
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: I think possibly the toughest one for me um and

536
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: it's not because he's a game changer, but because he

537
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 1: gave us a lot of versatility and reliability. And I'm

538
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: not I'm not so that Ali Cox does that is

539
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: Doyle so somewhere in this draft, and I think it's

540
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: possible because it's an undervalued position. You would like to

541
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: be able to get the next Jack Doyle, if you

542
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I know, I know what you

543
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: feel about Doyle. I just feel like he's he's a

544
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: little bit harder to replace sometimes because of the versatility.

545
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,959
Speaker 1: You know, he can play that fullback. I thought he

546
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: was really instrumental in Taylor's running game this year, right

547
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: with that offensive line. So you know, I think Ali

548
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: Cox is coming. I do think that Granson can be

549
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: a hybrid guy. But you know, I would like to

550
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: be able to replay that. There is a guy, but

551
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: you'd have to give the number two pick for him.

552
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: McBride out of Colorado's State is Jack Doyle, probably with

553
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: a little bit more speed and you know, tight end

554
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: is they don't. There's not a great one in the draft.

555
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: So it's going to be a little bit of an

556
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: undervalued position that might slide a little bit. All right,

557
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: let's go heavy draft conversation to kind of close out here.

558
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 1: You've been pouring over the tape this offseason. You're always

559
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: dialed into the prospects and colts needs. What do you

560
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 1: have as the colt's biggest needs or areas of concern?

561
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: You already kind of talked about a wide receiver. You

562
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: would go heavy wide receiver on Day two of the draft.

563
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: Outside of that, what else is pretty high on your radar? Well,

564
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: here's here's what I would say. I say number one

565
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: and number two is wide receivers. I just think that

566
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: we you know, we've got prospects. We've got one one

567
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: guy that is a solid NFL receiver, and then we

568
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: have a bunch of guys that are prospects. Really there

569
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: are guys that you hope have ability. You know, I

570
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: know we really like Campbell, I do, but I mean

571
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I can't sit here and count on Campbell just because

572
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: of history, and so I want to pack that position.

573
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 1: I want to give us explosiveness that will make the

574
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: running game better. That will give Matt Ryan a chance

575
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: to come in and throw. I think that that's need

576
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: number one. I would say need number two. And this

577
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: may become a conflict. We'll get into this in that

578
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: second round. On that forty second kick. I still am

579
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: not sure that prior as a sixteen Sunday left tackle.

580
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 1: I think he can play left tackle in the short run.

581
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I think he could play right tackle all day. I

582
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: think he could play guard all day. I'm just not

583
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: positive that he is sixteen Sunday left tackle. I don't

584
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: know that he has the twitch to play their day

585
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: and day out. So I think that you you would

586
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: like if you could. Now there's there's four really good

587
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: ones that are going to go in the first round.

588
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple of guys we can talk about

589
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: that are I think would be there at forty two.

590
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: You'd have to make the decision between white out offensive

591
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: tackle on that one. I think, you know, I think

592
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,719
Speaker 1: tight end a Doyle type. I think offensive line depth

593
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: now and that I don't think you're going to do

594
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: that the first maybe even two days. But you know,

595
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: now losing both Read and Glowinsky, and I'm fine with

596
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: Danny Pinner. Believe it or not, I have no trouble

597
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: with that, but I do worry now about the depth

598
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: because those guys were guys that could you could put

599
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: read in a game and not even lose a beat,

600
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so I think a

601
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: little bit of depth there. And to me, you just

602
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: never have enough corners, so you know, and I think

603
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: there's some Morris Reservoir All Stars, some corners that are

604
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: going to be there, maybe fourth and third. There's some

605
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: great ones on the first round, but they're gonna be

606
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: chewed up, and I think there's gonna be some guys there.

607
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: So that's the big issue to me. The big issue

608
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: for us going forward offensively to me is wide receiver

609
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: and making sure our left accle is sound, I mean,

610
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 1: and then I think we can play with everybody else.

611
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: And then after that, if we could get another Jack Doyle,

612
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: be be be fine. Can we talk about specific guys?

613
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: Can we talk about you know, the cults sitting there

614
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: at forty two overall in the second round, Who are

615
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: some players that you really like that you also still

616
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 1: think will be around and on the board when the

617
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: Colts make their first selection. In your opinion. All Right,

618
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: here's guys that are gonna be gone, okay, and everybody

619
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: knows these guys, so I don't I don't have to

620
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: belabor it. The two guys from Ohio State, Wilson and Olave,

621
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be gone. Williams from Alabama is going to

622
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: be gone. The only knock on him, the only caution

623
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: light is he has that ACL but I think people

624
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: will overlook it because of his great ability. Burke's people

625
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: are high on from Arkansas. I'm not as warm on

626
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: him as everybody else. He's Anquan Bold and Chenaul type guy.

627
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: You know two twenty five, but he runs a four

628
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: to five five and you know me on speed. You

629
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: have to sell that to me. London is the big

630
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: jump ball guy out of USC Again. I never see

631
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: him separate in space. I see him separate on the

632
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: jump ball, but never in space. And so here's some

633
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: guys I think that you really have to keep in

634
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: mind here on that forty second pick. Now, I don't

635
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 1: think my number one guy would be Dotson, Okay, from

636
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 1: Penn State. I don't believe he gets out of the

637
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: first round. I mean he's tremend four for three thirty six, vertical,

638
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: tremendous game changer, good with the ball in hands, not

639
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: real big five eleven, one eighty eight, but tremendous football player. Now,

640
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 1: if he makes it at forty two, it would be

641
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: really hard for me to walk by him. I think

642
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 1: I jump on him in a minute. Some other guys

643
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: and then I'll tell you who I like best. But

644
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: here's some other names that will be there that are

645
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: all quality, legit second round guys and you know, manned

646
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,280
Speaker 1: up as well as good as the ones Pickings from Georgia.

647
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: You know, he's he's good. Watson. Everybody loves Watson. I'm

648
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: not as warm on Whyon as everybody else. Is the

649
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: kid from North Kota State University. He's got tremendously ran.

650
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: You know, he ran a four to three six. Uh,

651
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's got tremendous speed and upside. Uh.

652
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of drops in there, though. If you

653
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: watch a lot of tapes, Vellis Jones, four three one

654
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 1: out of tennessee big outside guy, Melton, the kid from Rutgers.

655
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, another and these guys have great speed. This

656
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: is another four three one guy. And then there's three

657
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 1: guys that I really, really like here, and I would

658
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: probably draft them over that crew and it'll surprise you

659
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: maybe some of them would be most reservoir all star

660
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: guys that a little bit under the radar to the

661
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 1: casual fan. First of all, I love the Pierce kid

662
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: out of Cincinnati. Yeah, Alec Pieris, Yeah, Yeah, I think

663
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's gonna be a riser.

664
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's six three three over two hundred

665
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: four four one and some people I had him in

666
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: a four to three eight, but he can flat fly

667
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: and he's competitive four two eighth short shuttle, which is

668
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: really means fast. He's been used mostly as a vertical guy,

669
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you know what. The Colts worked him out, so they're

670
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: going to have a better feel on how he is intermediately.

671
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's you know, sometimes you really need to work

672
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: out to see some things that maybe that team doesn't

673
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: show on tape and you want to take a look at.

674
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: I love Pierce, absolutely love Khalil Shakier out of Boise.

675
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Another you know another guy he's a little bit shorter

676
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: or five eleven one ninety five, you know, but another

677
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: four to three guy. He runs a four two one

678
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: short shuttle. He can do it all from wildcat to

679
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: slot to outside. He's one of my favorite players, one

680
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: of my Morse Reservoir All Stars, real game changer, doesn't

681
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: have real long arms, but he can sky and make

682
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: circus catches. I think he's a game changer. And then

683
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: I like Danny Gray at a Southern methodist at six two,

684
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: he ran a four three three, really good with the

685
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. So you know, I gave I

686
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: went through all those names, and all those guys are

687
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: going to be potential forty two picks. And again my

688
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: favorites Pierce, Shakier and Gray, but every one of those

689
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: single guys has a chance. Then there's kind of some specialist.

690
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: This is why there's just so many guys. You could

691
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: get one two, you can get one on the third round.

692
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: You've got guys like sky Moore, you know who Ian Yeah,

693
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Western Michigan, another Most Reservoir All Star. You know again,

694
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: he's running a four to four to four. I love

695
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin. Now he's a midget, but you know he

696
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: ran like a four to three two. He's only five seven,

697
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: but he's the kid out of Memphis. He is kind

698
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: of a poor man. Tarik hill Um you know, Robinson

699
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: is a slot kid out of Kentucky. Mechi is a

700
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: really good player that again you know has a has

701
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: the injury, and then Tolbert out of Southern al Pama.

702
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Then you go down one level. You have guy like Bell,

703
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: David Bell who has great production but can't run, you know,

704
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: four six something, but Jerry Rice was four six two

705
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 1: coming out, so you just never know. Fry Fogel out

706
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: of Indiana, Dobbs out in Nevada. So I mean there

707
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 1: is a There is just a plethora of receivers. I

708
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: think it has to do with the spread offense in

709
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: college now, whether people like it or not, it is

710
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 1: turning out receivers. And the seven on seven camps that

711
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: kids you know, now, kids are not playing baseball if

712
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: they're great football players, they're not playing baseball like he did.

713
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: They're playing seven on seven Cameo Andy all year long.

714
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: So I mean it's just turning them out. And so

715
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: again I'll just say that the three guys that I

716
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: like a ton is Pierce, Shakier and Gray. One guy

717
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: did not hear you say, George Pickens out of Georgia.

718
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: Is that just because of injury? First you did I

719
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: think I think, I think you just missed it. No,

720
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: Pickens is right in there. I like Pickens a lot.

721
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: I like him, Alott, he came back and played after

722
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: an injury. You know, every one of these guys that

723
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 1: I've talked about today that are high on my list

724
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: obviously are faster than four or five. Some of them

725
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: faster than four or four because I've just that is

726
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: a priority with me. It's something I will say. I

727
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: won't say, I never compromise, but if you're if you're

728
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: slower than four or five at the corner or at

729
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: wide out, you're going to have to really prove it

730
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: to me. And that's just me. That doesn't make me right,

731
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: it's just the way I look at it. And if

732
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: you look at wide receivers, I mean, very rarely does

733
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: a wide receiver come in in his rookie season and

734
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: come in and set the world on fire and go

735
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards and be, you know, a top

736
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 1: five receiver in the NFL. That being said, though, Rick,

737
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: I guess the right word here, the right phrase would

738
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: be how how necessary is it for the Colts to

739
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: get a rookie impactful wide receiver for next season? Even

740
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: if it only is for five hundred, six hundred yards

741
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Well, I brought this up in

742
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 1: the building the other day because inevitably, what you're going

743
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: to come down to, Matt, is you're going to come

744
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: down to having to make a decision probably between I

745
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: would say, a left tackle, a wide receiver, and maybe

746
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: a corner. All right, at forty two, you're probably going

747
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 1: to have that, and maybe maybe a defensive tackle even

748
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: but you know, we've got about a thousand decencive alignment.

749
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: But anyway, you know, so inevitably it would come down

750
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: and position value to a left tackle versus an impactive,

751
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: playmaking wide receiver. Here's the scenario I brought up a

752
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: year ago. One year ago, the Cincinnati Bengals have the

753
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: decision to make Sewell, who was considered transformation right ye

754
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: left tackle, and Chase Okay, Now, would they have been

755
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl without Chase, they would not have

756
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: been known, it would not have been it's safe without Chase, right.

757
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: So I use the analogy because to me, we need explosion,

758
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: We need guys that can put it in the end zone.

759
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: And I think that the I think that young receivers

760
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: are playing more and more. I think that the old

761
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: philosophy that they're never gonna you know, that they can't

762
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 1: help you right away, I think that's diminishing. I think

763
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: younger receivers aren't making impacts quicker. Now, final thing on

764
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 1: the draft, Rick, and you know, the quarterback draft classes

765
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: is not as uh, it's not as hyped as it

766
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: has been in years past, but obviously it's still being

767
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: talked about around here, at least on the fringe. So

768
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: with that, how surprised would you be if if the

769
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: Colts drafted a quarterback on Day two of the draft.

770
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: And if they did do that, Rick, what would that

771
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: tell you? Okay, you know, I think it would be

772
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: a surprise because because even if you bring in a

773
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: good one like a Trey Lance, Okay, Okay, he's not

774
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 1: gonna play for you. Okay, he's not gonna play a while.

775
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: And I feel like all chips in is we gotta

776
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: get a fort We gotta get that forty second guy

777
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: that comes in and not only plays, but has an

778
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: impact on this team that helps us get to the mountaintop. Okay,

779
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: it's also a down year. And then the second thing

780
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: it would tell it would tell it would tell me

781
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 1: is that if they selected a guy, they feel stronger

782
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: about him than anybody else in the league. Which is fine.

783
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: Do your own scouting. Don't worry about what anybody else thinks.

784
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody thought Leonard should have been drafted in

785
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: a second around. You know what I'm saying, do what

786
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 1: you think is right. But it would have to be

787
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: a guy that they think has it all to be

788
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 1: the franchise guy and replace Ryan down the road. Okay,

789
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: that it has to be that guy. It can't be

790
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: a place Matt. It can't just be a guy, you

791
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that That would be silly to

792
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: me to do that. You can get that on the thing,

793
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: can't It can't if I hear you correctly. It can't

794
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: be an experiment, no exactly, or or a guy that's

795
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: lacking in something. Now let me follow up on that,

796
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: because the thing is, we know over the years somebody

797
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: on somebody on TV. Actually I thought said up best

798
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: the other day. When you draft quarterbacks, people say, well,

799
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: where are they going to go? You know, well, there's

800
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: not a great well, they're always inflated, all right. It

801
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: isn't when you when you shot for quarterbacks. It's not

802
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: like going to Costco and getting a fixed item on

803
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 1: a garden cos Okay, regardless of I love Costco by

804
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: the way, Yeah me too. You know about what that cost? Okay,

805
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: when you shout for a quarterback, you know, it's more

806
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: like the auction, Okay, like the horse auction in Keenland.

807
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: It's it's the eye of the beholder sets the value

808
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: and it's a position that people have to have. Now.

809
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 1: To me, two guys will definitely go in the first round.

810
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: I really like Kenny Pickett. I mean, I really like Pickett.

811
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: I think he's being overanalyzed now and he's dropping, you know.

812
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 1: You know. The other thing I kind of hate is

813
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: risers after the season, follers after the season. And don't

814
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: get me wrong, I am into analytics. I have studied

815
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: draft numbers and metrics since nineteen eighty two, so I

816
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: understand what you have to have. But I hate it

817
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: when a guy rises based on just workouts and stuff

818
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: like that, Like like Walker, maybe the first pick in

819
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: the draft from Georgia, but he didn't play like that,

820
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't. He didn't play like that, but

821
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: he might be because of these works. I think I

822
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: think that Pickett has been overanalyzed and has dropped a

823
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 1: little bit, and somebody's going to get a good one.

824
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: And I think Willis is just the opposite. He's you know,

825
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: he's the kid from Liberty. Because of his immense tools,

826
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: I think he's been inflated tremendously. I see him as

827
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: a guy boom er bus that you know, he's got

828
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: the arm, he's tremendous scrambler. But you know, I see

829
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: him as a guy that is more of a playground

830
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: player than an NFL quarterback. And you know, again, you know,

831
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: maybe you take that guy because you say, I've got somebody.

832
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: I don't have to play him right away. The key

833
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: guys to me at forty two, all right here here

834
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 1: would be the most intriguing guy to me at forty two. Okay,

835
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: the only guy that would make me at least think

836
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: is Ritter from Cincinnati. Okay, okay, I think Ritter from

837
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is the most intriguing quarterback of the mall. He

838
00:46:55,440 --> 00:47:00,280
Speaker 1: has the size, He's a tremendous athlete. He's right behind

839
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: will He ran a four or five two. I mean,

840
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 1: this kid can move. He throws easy, he can make

841
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: every throw. He is a great kid. He is a

842
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: smart kid. He's won a ton of football games. He's

843
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: been he's being rated down for one playoff game. I mean,

844
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: and I think that this is a guy with the

845
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: tremendous upside that you may go all he may be

846
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: one of those guys that you know, with a little

847
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: bit without having to play immediately, may have the tools

848
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: to be that superior guy, that top guy. And he's

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Speaker 1: the only guy that hits me that way. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I see how as a guy, you know, and then

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Speaker 1: like last day guys, you know, I kind of like

852
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: Harry out a Brown, believe it or not. He's a

853
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife Asom Hillasom Hill type guy. He's not.

854
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Speaker 1: He's metrics are close to Hill, They're not quite as

855
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Speaker 1: good as Hill, but he would be that Swiss army

856
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: knife wildcat type kid. And and then there's a kid

857
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: named a La Ducan Sandy out of South Dakota State.

858
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: No nobody will know him. So that's you know, he's

859
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: been with three different teams. I call him the he

860
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's a he's a coat of many colors.

861
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 1: He's with this portal now he's been with three different teams.

862
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Speaker 1: I think South Florida, and then somebody else and then

863
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:19,240
Speaker 1: South Dakota. But he plays easy too. But uh again

864
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Speaker 1: that the pery kid on the on the last day

865
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: might give you a different kind of guy, and you

866
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: might get that out of that Linger. I don't know,

867
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: you know you might. So, I mean the guy. The

868
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: most intriguing guy to me of the ones you don't know,

869
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna talk about Pickett willis how corral all those guys.

870
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: Everybody knows those guys. To me, the most intriguing guy

871
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 1: is Ritter fair Enough. Yeah, you're just a great kid

872
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: with it. Indeed, Indeed, Man, we covered so much today.

873
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: We talked about the offseason moves, Matt Ryan, the draft.

874
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: It's been awesome covering a ton with you today. Anything

875
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: else that we didn't get to that you have thoughts

876
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: on in terms of the Cults off season so far. Know,

877
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: like I said, I really like it. I even I

878
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm very happy with McLeod um. You know, I was

879
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: around Saint Louis when we drafted McLeod uh. He's had

880
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: a really good career. He's a legit starter. Um. If Blackman,

881
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, if Blackman's health holds him out a little bit.

882
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Blackman is a terrific prospect. Um,

883
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, he is coming off the injury and you

884
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: just don't know. So I think that was very smart

885
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: to go out and get a legit starting safety. Uh,

886
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: you know, a lot like we did with Mitchell that year,

887
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:37,720
Speaker 1: who's now coaching with you know that. I mean, I think,

888
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: you know. I think the other thing is I'm really

889
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: happy with the defensive staff. H Bradley brings juice every day.

890
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: He's leader, he's a teacher. Um, he knows what he's

891
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: doing when you're around him. He's an electric, electric type

892
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: of personality. Ron Miless is secondary coach who I've worked

893
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: with over the years. I think will improve us fundamentally,

894
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: just vastly. I think John Fox is a really good

895
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: addition because John is more my vintage and he sees

896
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: the game more like I do, with the split safeties

897
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,240
Speaker 1: and a lot of nuance, where Gus is a single

898
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: high guy. So I think that's a real complimentary part.

899
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 1: Doesn't have you know, Don't get me wrong, Gus. Gus

900
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: is right in the defense, there will be no mistake

901
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 1: about that. But I think rather than being just so

902
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: one dimensional and stubborn, like we have been in the past.

903
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: There's going to be a much better flow of ideas

904
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 1: and we have we have a you know, I think,

905
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: you know, so much fell on Wimps's playing, which is normal.

906
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the praise always goes to the

907
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 1: head coach and the quarterback, and the blame goes to

908
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,880
Speaker 1: the head coach and the quarterback. And there's no doubt

909
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: that Carson, you know, basically shouldered it. But our defense

910
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: took a giant step backwards last year other than turnovers,

911
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: I mean, seventeenth, twenty fifth in sacks, twenty ninth and

912
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: fourth quarters, so you know, it's you know, that is

913
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 1: a project that has to be done. But again where

914
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: we've helped ourselves. The biggest issues were throwing the football

915
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,760
Speaker 1: and defending the past. You know, we get a corner

916
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: that can do it. You know, we get an edge

917
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: rusher who's legitimate, and we get a quarterback who's legitimate.

918
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: Now let's get him some skill guys around them. All right,

919
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 1: Rick Venturi, fantastic as always. Now, what are you doing

920
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: between now and the draft? You're still watching more tape.

921
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: You're breaking things down, like what does it look like

922
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: between now and next Thursday, And I guess this is

923
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: probably another question. I don't mean to ask you another question,

924
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: but you've been in these draft rooms, and you've been

925
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: around talent evaluators, Rick, I mean the haze in the barn.

926
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: How do you stay sane between now and Thursday night

927
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: knowing that, hey, paralysis by analysis can set in here. Yeah,

928
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 1: and you have to be careful with that. I mean,

929
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: I think you're probably still you know, you ever, you

930
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: never stop until it's over. I mean you never, you know,

931
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: you look at it all. But I think you do

932
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: have to avoid that over analysis. Prowess by analysis. The

933
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: other thing I think it you know, if you if

934
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: you feel like you're together, like I will spend a

935
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: little bit more time on some guys that would be

936
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: third day guys now, you know, little guys I make.

937
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: Maybe some smaller school kids I haven't seen, and we

938
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: have traditionally done a great job. Chris has done a

939
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: great job on that aspect of it. But I know,

940
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: for myself, I will be looking at that. You know,

941
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,800
Speaker 1: you know some kids like the kid the defensive tackle

942
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: from Missouri State. You know, just different guys that are

943
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 1: a little bit you haven't heard much about. Go back

944
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: and look at them and look at them again, all right,

945
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: and then we'll be together on draft weekend. We'll be

946
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: doing updates, two updates every hour during the draft. Will

947
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: be previewing what's going on for the Colts. Will do

948
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: that on Thursday night here inside the Cult Studio and

949
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: those will air on our flagship station in Indianapolis FM one,

950
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: O seven five and ninety three five the fans. And

951
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: on Friday night we'll be doing those updates from kill

952
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Roy's in Broad Ripples. So come out and see us

953
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: if you can. We'll talk some football. You can pick

954
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 1: Rick's brain between picks. So we're looking forward to that,

955
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: my friend. Have a great weekend and again looking forward

956
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: to hooking up during the draft coming up next weekend.

957
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:20,839
Speaker 1: All right, anything you need, get me a holler off

958
00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: to your Thursday night, You got it, pal. Inside Football

959
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: with Rick Venturrey, catching up on all the happenings this

960
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: offseason for the Indianapolis coltson again. We'll be back with

961
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 1: Rick next week for the draft and recap podcasts after

962
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: every day of the draft Thursday, Friday and Saturday. I'm

963
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening, everybody. Inside Football with Rick Venturry,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon.