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Speaker 1: Good morning, SWEEPERLD and welcome to the No Dunks podcast

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Speaker 1: on the Athletic Network back in the Classic Factory here

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Speaker 1: on a Wednesday, January twenty sixth I'm j E.

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Speaker 2: Skeets, and alongside me, as always, we got tax Mellons.

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Speaker 3: What's going on everybody?

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Speaker 2: Hey Tassy, we got our top shot hot boy Trey Kirby.

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Speaker 2: Hey o ay oh, and finally making the magic happen.

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Speaker 2: Possibly having a little bit of a rough morning over there,

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Speaker 2: super producer Ja. We're still seeing the title, just so

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Speaker 2: you know, JD. But oh I know why. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: know why.

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Speaker 3: Don't worry. The internet is seeing us. Yes, okay, good

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Speaker 3: you are being seen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's all that matters, said JD.

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Speaker 3: How you do take it?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 3: Oh you know, I'll be I'll be better in about

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Speaker 3: an hour and forty minutes probably.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were having some light troubles up here in

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Speaker 2: the Classic Factory too, hence the late start for the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not seeing ourselves because we had another shoot

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Speaker 3: going on, so we had to change the wiring.

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Speaker 2: Oh Jesus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, We've got a great top five coming for you

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Speaker 2: Okay, awesome? Yeah, top five, Top five, Top five later

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Speaker 2: I think we have a ton to talk about. This

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Speaker 2: is sorry, JD.

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Speaker 4: This is going to be longer than an hour or

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Speaker 4: forty stuck up on energy. Yeah, yes, probably be two

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Speaker 4: hours long. Today.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get to the top trade candidates for each

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Speaker 2: Western Conference team. We did the East on yesterday's Daily Show.

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Speaker 2: We'll do the West later in today's show. We'll also

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Speaker 2: share our thoughts on the new Rising Stars format when

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Speaker 2: we get to tweet of the night, because that was

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Speaker 2: the news breaking yesterday. But we start with the games

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Speaker 2: from last night and I thought it'd be a fun

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Speaker 2: way to tackle these games and these crazy results with

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Speaker 2: a little what you got?

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Speaker 4: What's a good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: What you got? First one, I need to know what

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Speaker 2: was the more devastating loss last night, The Kings losing

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Speaker 2: by fifty three points to the Celtics or the Wizards.

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Speaker 4: Blowing a thirty five point lead.

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Speaker 2: To the Clippers Trey.

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Speaker 4: What you got, Skeets, Please call these two teams by

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Speaker 4: their names, the Kangs and the Tzar. They were out

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Speaker 4: in full force last night. Honestly too brutal, brutal is

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Speaker 4: by the way, the Kings lost by fifty three, as

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Speaker 4: vividly remember watching it on Twitter and the Bulls getting dragged.

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Speaker 4: It's not fun. But they didn't lose with two bombs

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Speaker 4: I literally walked past coach Uncill.

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Speaker 3: Is this rock bottom? Is this what rock bottom looks like?

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Speaker 4: That's dark stuff. It's like you witnessed a tragy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was a game in January. Oh my goodness, but

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Speaker 4: oh disgusting stuff from the Wizards. That was so bad

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Speaker 3: Well, it's fun to play body language doctor with players,

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Speaker 3: the Washington Wizards over the last couple decades, it sure

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Speaker 3: feels like there is something coming the next two weeks

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Speaker 3: And I don't want to overreact and say one game

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Speaker 3: will dictate a direction for a team. But it's been

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Speaker 3: it is in a wild, wild finish, Okay, So Luke

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Speaker 3: a three point lead, all right, it's a three point lead.

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Speaker 3: So you just got a foul in the back court

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Speaker 3: intentionally foul. That didn't happen because they tried to foul

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Speaker 3: Justice Winslow half heartedly. They tried to foul Lukenard before

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Speaker 3: the shot half heart heeartedly both Beial and Dinwitty. I

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Speaker 3: Pickens if Spencer didn't want Witty wanted to slap it away.

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Speaker 3: I love the sound of the Washington's building during that

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Speaker 3: be part of that exclusive club of those two three

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Speaker 3: took so many things to go wrong there, and it

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Speaker 2: Insane about all of this is that the Clippers have

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Speaker 2: ut or excuse me, the Clippers coming back from thirty five,

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Speaker 2: But they've had other ones in the past, like month

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Speaker 2: Will had the ball. This is like not not a

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Speaker 2: you've given up at that point already a thirty point

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Speaker 2: been fouled in the backcourt, Like right away, he's got

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Speaker 2: brutal I did see Tom Zillert noted Kings fan. He

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Speaker 2: in the league. Five minutes the game was over, Kings

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Speaker 2: never led, never even got close. And Trey, you're always saying,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I almost I guess my point is to

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Speaker 4: I thought the worst part of it was afterwards they

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Speaker 4: asked Tyrese Halliburton was asked, how do you let the

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna let the culture of what the Kings

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I thought it was an interest. That's a

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Speaker 4: That's a great answer for a terrible question to be asked.

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Speaker 4: How do you let the team that you are signed

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Speaker 4: do you let that not take over your life? So

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Speaker 4: you're a sad boy like dearon Fox basically is what

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Speaker 4: Wizards because losing a thirty five point lead is a

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Speaker 4: lot a lot worse. You can tell because didn't The

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Speaker 4: Wizards just got smacked as well. They lost by twenty

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Speaker 3: But he was done. Everybody's done. They could have ran

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Speaker 2: The stream team.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if the Kings called the Wizards, I think it

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Speaker 3: I think the witchards?

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Speaker 4: You think the Wizards would say no? I guess. I mean, theoretically,

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Speaker 4: They just keep losing. And he was struggling to begin

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Speaker 4: I think the Wizards.

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Speaker 3: I take the Wizards because nobody wants to either of these.

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Speaker 3: Take take the one team because I'm trading a bunch

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, here, what's what do you set the over

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Speaker 4: Sure, four and a half.

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Speaker 3: That's like good line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, not a bad line.

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Speaker 4: I'm going over. I'm going yeah. I would tell you somebody,

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Speaker 4: What he's the number one guy in the trade market

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hear with all of these questions with what

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Speaker 2: Agd's gonna kick something. I can see it coming.

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Speaker 2: next question, the better bounce back win. Okay, because both

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Speaker 3: Well, the Lakers were part of our swear jar just

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Speaker 3: a very demonstrative fashion. I loved watching this game. I

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Speaker 3: Just the fact that Anthony Davis came back. How much

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Speaker 4: He had three blocks in the first seven minutes.

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Speaker 3: Right, and he barely played. He had a twenty five

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Speaker 3: They scored twenty seven transition points and that was the

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Speaker 2: I think we've really actually gone overboard with them. Nah,

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Speaker 2: you think of eighties return? I mean immediate impact. He

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Speaker 4: This guy's pretty good. I'm taking Dwight Howard off the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but they were just so active, and I thought

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Speaker 2: Malik Munk getting a bunch of threes. He's always gonna

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Speaker 2: That's usually the recipe to make have success in the

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Speaker 2: joining us on YouTube. All right, he's telling us, read

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Speaker 2: go over here, man's over here. No, you gotta get

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Speaker 2: over there and then come underneath. Oh, Austin reed I

436
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Speaker 2: don't know what the hell you're talking about.

437
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Speaker 4: I said.

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Speaker 2: It was very similar to when Lee starts talking about

439
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Speaker 2: the Test cricket match in the nineties between England and

440
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Speaker 2: Australia and it's like us going, yeah, sure, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I guess so yeah. Looked also like Tony Stark explaining

442
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Speaker 4: intergalactic warfare to Peter Parker. Yes, true, true, But I

443
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 4: do think it's pretty instructive that Austin Reeves is pointing

444
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Speaker 4: to the complete other side of the floor of Lebron, Like, what, literally,

445
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Speaker 4: what is Lebron seeing that he's completely flipped over on

446
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Speaker 4: the other side. I don't know. I'd love to hear

447
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Speaker 4: the breakdown.

448
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Speaker 2: Yeah, some sort of offensive play strategy that they're they're

449
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Speaker 2: supposed to be doing there.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm. So you're not going to side with the

451
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Speaker 3: Toronto Raptors here when talking about a bounce back when I.

452
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Speaker 2: Will say quickly about them, because again, we got so

453
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Speaker 2: much to get to still here, they did overcome the

454
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Speaker 2: absence of Fred van Vliet last night and then Scottie Barnes.

455
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Speaker 2: So van Vliet was out with a right sore knee,

456
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Speaker 2: and Barnes was a late scratch like an hour before

457
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Speaker 2: the game because of a sore right wrist. So we

458
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Speaker 2: get past Galcey Okam starting at point spicy p at

459
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Speaker 2: the point he was incredible.

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Speaker 4: It was amazing at twelve, I.

461
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Speaker 2: Mean, everything was sort of going through him, and this

462
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Speaker 2: was just a really somewhat surprising and playing a good

463
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Speaker 2: Hornets team and much needed sort of victory. Gary Trent

464
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Speaker 2: Junior was on fire. He hit a bunch of threes

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Speaker 2: last night. And the Raptors without Van Vliet. I saw

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Speaker 2: Michael Grange with this stat this morning. Over the last

467
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Speaker 2: you know year, going back to last season, in twenty

468
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Speaker 2: two games, van Vleet was no the Raptors were four

469
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Speaker 2: and eighteen. Like he's very important. I saw Dan Devines

470
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Speaker 2: got Fred van Vliet starting for his Eastern Conference all starts.

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Speaker 2: You know, I couldn't believe it. No, I couldn't believe it.

472
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Speaker 2: But anyway, they're really bad when van Leet doesn't pay

473
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Speaker 2: play because he does everything for them. And you know,

474
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Speaker 2: Siakam really picked up the slack last night. Yeah, I

475
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Speaker 2: thought that was amazing.

476
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's kind of fun sometimes to watch like

477
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Speaker 3: a Gary Trent junior type of guy just fire away. Yeah,

478
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Speaker 3: like you have the license to shoot twenty times. And

479
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Speaker 3: it paid off. He had twenty one shots, leading the

480
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Speaker 3: team in shots and banging home threes. But yeah, Pascal

481
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Speaker 3: bounce back season. Talking about bounce I came here, bounced

482
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Speaker 3: back season for him and the and the reputation that

483
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Speaker 3: he has so much love. I find it odd watching

484
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Speaker 3: Raptors games a lot of the times because they're still

485
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Speaker 3: acting like they have fans out there. Toronto has zero fans.

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Speaker 3: They have they have told fans that they are not

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Speaker 3: allowed to come, and a lot of the time still

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Speaker 3: still part of the PA is like.

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Speaker 4: Here we go, fans la.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird.

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Speaker 3: Our friend Will Lou put up a screenshot of what

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Speaker 3: they had on the video board. Fans get loud, like what,

493
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Speaker 3: there's nobody there.

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Speaker 4: We can change it up, you know, it's weird. That's

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Speaker 4: just for the Raptor. Yeah, he's like, all right, let's.

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Speaker 2: Go, and even he can't, apparently Booker's telling him get

497
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Speaker 2: in the corner. Yeah, all right, let's keep it going here, JD.

498
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Speaker 2: Let's check in with you real quick. You're doing all

499
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Speaker 2: right over there. I know the light's still causing your problems.

500
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: Now you're turning around other lights.

501
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what's going on this thing anyway.

502
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Speaker 3: I'll get some candles during the break.

503
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Speaker 2: Set the moon and we'll pour ourselves a bath. All right,

504
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Speaker 2: Next one here, best box score of the night? Yo

505
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Speaker 2: kich embiid or Anthony Edwards, who I have to note

506
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Speaker 2: had forty points and zero systems.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta apologize here, gotta apologize. No beef, no,

508
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Speaker 4: no beef.

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Speaker 2: Wow for you beef. I already owe a nurkic beef.

510
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Speaker 4: I know the Blazers fans are all about that, but skates,

511
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Speaker 4: I've got a laptop the same vintage as yours. Yeah,

512
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Speaker 4: that's my beef computer.

513
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

514
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Speaker 4: Oh it's clogged, buddy, clogged up with beef fill tritis

515
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 4: can't find my hard drive. I gotta restart my computer

516
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: every morning just to make the dumb pick them graphic.

517
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Speaker 4: I gotta let the beef build.

518
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Speaker 2: So what's going on here? Why are we falling apart?

519
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Speaker 2: We've only been in the Classic factory for a couple

520
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Speaker 2: of weeks. Here, a computer's dying let's see. I brought

521
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Speaker 2: my new one for the new Classic Factory. I said,

522
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Speaker 2: this is going to be a pure computer. I'm only

523
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 2: gonna look at the freshest streams. We're never gonna click

524
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Speaker 2: a weird ad. It's gonna be perfect. But all right,

525
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Speaker 2: they've seen it.

526
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Speaker 4: Compare you like this.

527
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Speaker 2: It's like this.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you though, this is ah. This one's

529
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Speaker 4: gonna get clogged with detritus as well, which is too bad.

530
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Speaker 4: But what's your answer to this?

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Speaker 2: I say, yokicch but you just don't have the beef?

532
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Speaker 2: Or is an am beat? Who's a monster sill or

533
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Anthony andwers.

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Speaker 4: That's a great question, great question, thanks for asking. I

535
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Speaker 4: would say to choose your own adventures. Keets Jesus, I

536
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Speaker 4: know you think it. I would go Yokic because of

537
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Speaker 4: the beef twenty eight, twenty one and nine, only nine

538
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Speaker 4: of twenty from the field. I know that would hurt.

539
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Speaker 4: If you're making a woe boy choice, I did see.

540
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: Stan Van Gundy tweeted that there have been twelve twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty games in the NBA this season, which, apparently Quentin

542
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Speaker 4: Richardson calls a Barbara Walters not bad. Nikola Jokic has

543
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: four of them all in the last five weeks. That's

544
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Speaker 4: pretty cool. Then I got dumb by getting smart, I said,

545
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Speaker 4: what if I add up points, rebound and assists, simple,

546
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 4: then it's Embiid forty two points, fourteen rebounds, four assists.

547
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Speaker 4: That's sixty Yokich only has fifty eight. Oh air go

548
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 4: Embid better than Jokic. Of course, the Pelicans rested. Everybody

549
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Speaker 4: didn't play Fionas Valanciunis, which was the big one that

550
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 4: being said. According to statan Is, this is Joel Embiid's

551
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Speaker 4: fifth straight game. He's had more points than minutes. Wow,

552
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 4: eat your heart out, Bob McAdoo. Then I said math sucks, right,

553
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 4: ham really sucks. Math even worst. What's the coolest box score?

554
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: Anthony Edwards, no doubt. Forty points, nine rebounds, twenty seven shots,

555
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Speaker 4: zero assists. I love it. Afterwards they asked them what's

556
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Speaker 4: it like to take over a game in the fourth quarter?

557
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 4: He said, I felt like black Jesus. So his line

558
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Speaker 4: is probably the most underwhelming of the three, but I

559
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Speaker 4: like it the most. And the main takeaway from this

560
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 4: is that one hour, maybe two of Jokichen Embid is

561
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Speaker 4: going to be very disappointed at the end of the

562
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Speaker 4: season because they're both going to have massive MVP like numbers.

563
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Speaker 4: Like Jokic has been better this season than he was

564
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Speaker 4: last season when he won MVP, doesn't feel like he's

565
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Speaker 4: gonna win it, even though he's at the top of

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Speaker 4: the Basketball Reference MVP tracker. They're kind of in the

567
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Speaker 4: same spot right now. Honestly, they're both in six play,

568
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 4: sixth place in their conference. Both of their teams. The

569
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 4: story has been more about who's not there than who's

570
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Speaker 4: actually playing, and they don't. They just don't necessarily have

571
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Speaker 4: the wins or the narrative right now. If either of

572
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Speaker 4: these teams can win like ten games in a row

573
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Speaker 4: somehow get into the top three of their conference, finish

574
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Speaker 4: in the top three, then I think they would have

575
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Speaker 4: a chance at winning MVP. Otherwise, right now, it's too

576
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Speaker 4: close to call.

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Speaker 2: It's very very close. Of these box scores last night, though,

578
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Speaker 2: what you got when it comes to you know the

579
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Speaker 2: better one.

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Speaker 3: Well, I would go with Jokich because of how he

581
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: was playmaking out there. Totally same scenario with the Sixers

582
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Speaker 3: where you have to rely on him a lot more,

583
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Speaker 3: and that's kind of the benefit of watching the Denver

584
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Speaker 3: Nuggets play the Detroit Pistons yesterday. I know the casual

585
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 3: NBA fan wasn't watching this game, but because they don't

586
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Speaker 3: have Jamal Murray and Michael Porter, they're not blowing anybody out.

587
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Speaker 3: So Yokic has to be on the floor for forty

588
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Speaker 3: eight minutes, and it is marvelous just watching him do everything.

589
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: What he does, what and B doesn't do is Yokis

590
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 3: brings the ball up a little bit more. The plays

591
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 3: are made through him a little bit more. Obviously, the

592
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Speaker 3: passing is a little bit through him a little bit more,

593
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Speaker 3: and he just can react. Everybody knows on the other

594
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 3: side that you gotta take the ball out of his hands.

595
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: He's gonna make the plays. So the pressure is on

596
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: this guy and he just he is amazing just to watch,

597
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 3: just pick apart everybody. So I watched this game because

598
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: I'm a sicko, and I watched him dropping those dimes

599
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: to everybody. And it's fun to watch him. It's obviously

600
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 3: fun to play with him. The four guys on the floor,

601
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Speaker 3: it's fun as a spectator to watch what they're doing

602
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: because they know Yoki is gonna drop them drop each

603
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: of them something if I run, if I cut here,

604
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: if I cut there, then if if if I take

605
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: away one of his somehow, then he is going to

606
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: make a marvelous play. I mean he's going behind it

607
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 3: back as he dribbles up court, so I would take him.

608
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 3: And yeah, another twenty twenty game for him. So it's

609
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 3: it's hard. The Edwards forty points and zero sists is

610
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 3: pretty special as well. It doesn't happen very he's calling

611
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: himself black Jesus. He says next year he's going to

612
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: win the MVP A lot of lines after this game.

613
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah he's special. So three guys noteworthy for very different reasons,

614
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: but trace right in that when we get to the

615
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 3: end of the year, Jokichen Embiid hanging around the MVP table. Unfortunately,

616
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Speaker 3: even though Yok had as having a better season than

617
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Speaker 3: last year, he's probably not going to win it.

618
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: Probably not. Embids is having a better season than he

619
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Speaker 2: had last year. He finished runner up. I went to

620
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Speaker 2: check too, Yeah, I forgot it. Did take Embiid in

621
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Speaker 2: our season. Previous shows for MVP bad didn't look good

622
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: for a while when he was missing a ton of games.

623
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Speaker 2: But he's definitely sitting at the table as we talked about,

624
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: and it's just he's just a monster right now. He

625
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: is just like you, like the Sixers. Wish the playoffs

626
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: started tomorrow, gonna beout what they're doing at the deadline.

627
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this guy can win. He can win you series,

628
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 2: he can take you this he's playing at that elite level.

629
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Speaker 2: Y'll Kich is right there too, that you are winning

630
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: playoff series with that guy as your number one guy.

631
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 2: We've seen it with the honest Is obviously, you know

632
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: with Lebron's it's pretty amazing. You imagine you took those

633
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: two guys off the teams right now, Like how bad

634
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 2: the Nuggets would be if k didn't play right and

635
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: even and beating the Sixers, I mean it's not it's

636
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: it's probably a little bit better than the Nuggets.

637
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 4: I'd imagine like that they would be horrible.

638
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: And they have hope that Jamal Murray is gonna come back,

639
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: and right now there are four games above five hundred

640
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 3: and if Jamal Murray comes back. The reason why I

641
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: picked Yo Kitch as the MVP is is I had

642
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: the just had the hope that he would be able

643
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Speaker 3: to prop them up into the top four seeds of

644
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 3: the Western Conference, and it ain't that far especially considering that. Yeah,

645
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: they think Jamal Murray is gonna come back. And I

646
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Speaker 3: don't think Michael Porter Junior has lost for the season either.

647
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 3: So there's hope in the latter half of the season,

648
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: especially with Kevin Durant and his injury and things and

649
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 3: Steph Curry you being ice cold, So things are shaking

650
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: up at the table. People are going to the bathroom. Yeah,

651
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: people are taking their calls and their seats could be stolen.

652
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: I think the table right now, there's only five seats

653
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: at the MVP table.

654
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 4: You're right.

655
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: A couple guys have gotten up. Maybe they're at the bar,

656
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: or they're in the washroom or checking, like you know,

657
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: if the time on their parking has expired. It is

658
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: definitely Yokic, Embeid Yiannis. And then I think right now

659
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: it is Chris Paul and Joah Morant. I think those

660
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 2: are the five sitting there with Curry at the bar

661
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: with Durant. Unfortunately he's outside right now, he's checking on

662
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 2: his car because of injury and stuff like that. That's

663
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 2: that's my five right now.

664
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: I think I would be between Curry and Jahn Morant,

665
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: I agree, Maran's definitely had a he's the MVP of

666
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 4: late between those two, but you can't throw up the

667
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 4: first two months of the season. O.

668
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: Hey, that's I'm totally fun like that. They're they're maybe

669
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: they're sharing a seat, all right, Final one here, Yeah,

670
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: better rookie performance. I did want to slip this in

671
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: here because Kate Cunningham had a monster line in the

672
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: Pistons lost against the Nuggets, awesome, awesome line. Or Jonathan

673
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: Kaminga for the Warriors who blew out the Mavericks there

674
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: last night. He barely missed a shot, So task what

675
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 2: you got better rookie performance last night?

676
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Caid. Okay, the overall game for

677
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: him was spectacular and just like we talked about Jokic,

678
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: so much on his shoulders in that game on the

679
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: other side of the floor, so much on Kid's shoulders

680
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: just to create everything. And he responded, these are special numbers.

681
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 3: With Kaminga, it's it's different, obviously because steps still out there,

682
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: clays out there taking off pressure. But Kid to be

683
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: able to shoot fourteen of twenty six and six of

684
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: nine from three with all that pressure, he just takes

685
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: his time and gets into his shot. Six threes for

686
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: this young kid, and then he was instigating things on

687
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: the other end as well. He had a great chase

688
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: down block of Aaron Gordon had four blocks in this game,

689
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,479
Speaker 3: thirty five and five game youngest and franchise history, passing

690
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Isaiah Thomas. When you're in that category, ask some good stuff.

691
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: He had a slow start to the season, and he's

692
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: he is, yeah again, why is beyond his ears? Just

693
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 3: like I keep saying about Evan Mobley and Kate. Like

694
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 3: we just said about the MVP race, it seemed like

695
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 3: Mobiley and Barnes were way out there ahead, but kid

696
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: is definitely tracking them down. And he is so comfortable

697
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: taking his shots at his own pace, creating for guys.

698
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 3: Thirty four just to go over the lining on thirty

699
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: four points, eight assists, eight rebounds, four blocks, creating for everybody.

700
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: And he was asked about not getting calls after the game,

701
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: another wise comment. He said, listen, I control what I

702
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 3: can control, number one, which sounds like, you know, an

703
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 3: Instagram quote for billions of people out there. Yeah, that's smart.

704
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: And then he said, you know, maybe if we win more,

705
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 3: we'll get some calls. So he's just he's a cool customer.

706
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: I'm sure his teammates, like Yoki's teammates, love playing with

707
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: him because he gets everybody involved. So it's a bright,

708
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 3: bright future for Caid and that team. And we'll see

709
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: how they shake it around the next two weeks here

710
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,239
Speaker 3: around him, because I think they're gonna switch it up

711
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: a little bit. But I would go with Kate over

712
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: Jonathan Kuminga.

713
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: What about you?

714
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Kate is an easy choice. The way

715
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 4: he was just bodying Austin Rivers in the post was

716
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 4: pretty impressive. It looked like he was a ten year

717
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 4: veteran and Austin Rivers was the rookie, to be quite honest,

718
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 4: I mean Kate Cunningham, I don't know. I know he

719
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 4: started as a post player and has a wicked hook shot.

720
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 4: I remember reading that in his pre draft evaluations, but

721
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 4: seeing him work on Rivers that was pretty impressive. I

722
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: will say Kaminga had the best highlight. Yeah, huge dunk.

723
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 4: Of course, seventeen of his points came in the fourth quarter,

724
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 4: which was all garbage time, but the dunk was pretty cool. Yeah,

725
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: that was a nice one.

726
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 2: I was feeling pretty vindicated watching the Kate Cunningham performance

727
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,479
Speaker 2: last night, because I think it was like who knows

728
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: time is weird? But maybe three weeks ago, four weeks ago,

729
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: we had that whole debate here on the show in

730
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: the Classic Factory about like if you redid the draft

731
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: right now, you know, who goes one, two, three, four five,

732
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: And I remember I think it was you and Lee

733
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: at the time talking about, ah, maybe it is Mobile.

734
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 2: I think the Pistons, and I was like, no, I

735
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: still think Detroit would very happily keep with Cunningham at

736
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: number one, as great as Mobile played, as great as

737
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 2: Barnes had played. And you know, these are reasons why

738
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: you see it. You can see it even when he

739
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: was struggling. The guy is a damn awesome basketball player,

740
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: and it's he's starting to like become accustomed to the

741
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: speed of the game and stuff like that and taking control.

742
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 4: Also just the idea of like, this is my.

743
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 2: Team, you know, Yeah, Jeremy Grant is the better player

744
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: probably right now on the Pistons, but not gonna be.

745
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 4: For long, not for long.

746
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 2: So awesome, awesome game COMINGA had the highlights, you're right,

747
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: and the good box score as well. But let's hear

748
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: from everybody best rookie performance from last night, caid or KAMINGA. Okay,

749
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: we're gonna take our first break. We'll get the candles out, flashlights.

750
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 4: Maybe lou Mouse.

751
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: Eh. So when we come back, we will look at

752
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: the top trade candidates from each Western Conference team. Will

753
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 2: be right back, all right back in the classic factory.

754
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 2: Let's get to some trade candidates for the West Conference teams.

755
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun doing the East yesterday.

756
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: I think it was more difficult doing the West. There

757
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: were some teams I really really struggled with. We'll move

758
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 2: through these alphabetically once again. Again, these are just guys

759
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 2: on these particular teams that I could see that particular

760
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: organization saying, Okay, we could move this guy for whatever

761
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,359
Speaker 2: reason because maybe of a player you get back, maybe

762
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: it helps your books, whatever. So Dallas Mavericks guys, I

763
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 2: think it's two possible impending free agents because I don't

764
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: think they're going to be able to trade Tim Hardway

765
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: Junior and his contract, especially now he just got injured

766
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: last night as we wait to see how serious that

767
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: foot injury was. But I'm going Dorian Finney Smith DFS

768
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: and Jalen Brunson again. Four reasons. Yes, I know the

769
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: Brunson he's played so so well. Yeah, but you can't

770
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: tell me there would be a bunch of teams that

771
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 2: would be intrigued by him. You talked about the Nicks

772
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: needing a point guard? My god, you know, would they

773
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: would the MAVs willingly trade Brunson if they don't think

774
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna be able to keep him in free agency

775
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: for Mitchell Robinson, let's say, and a pick of some sort,

776
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: like a second round pick or something like that. You know,

777
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: is there something? Is there a deal? Now?

778
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 3: That's that's exciting because that's a need for a need

779
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: rather than teams teams looking for the future. Because Mitchie,

780
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 3: I think could help. I'm taking Lee's role here using nicknames.

781
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson could help the MAVs in the front court

782
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: and change their Yeah, there's sort of log jam there.

783
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 3: Would Porzingis move over to the fore in that instance? Yeah,

784
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 3: maybe Mitchell Robinson could sort of be like you know,

785
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 3: the Warriors and the Lakers have had in the past.

786
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 3: Mitchell Robinson starts placed twenty minutes, then Porzingis moves over. Yeah,

787
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 3: I know. It's it's difficult though, because we say the

788
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: MAVs need a playmaker, yeah, and then they're gonna trade

789
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: Jalen Brunson feels a little off, but I understand they

790
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 3: have a lot of mind locked up with other guys.

791
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: They do. But both these guys I did list, they're

792
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: good players, so they you know, the Mavericks are in

793
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 2: a they're in the playoffs, They're going to be in

794
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 2: playoffs series, so they want to obviously have some success

795
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: here around Luca and Porzingis. But I just struggled outside

796
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 2: of those guys to sort of find someone that made

797
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: really sense, because again, I don't think anybody's taking Tim

798
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Mardway junior.

799
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, not after the injury last night. But it is

800
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 4: weird because they need playmakers and they need defense. The

801
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: defense has been pretty solid lately while the Mavericks have

802
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: been stringing together some wins, and a lot of that

803
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 4: is Dorian Finney Smith is kind of their best put

804
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 4: under defender. So I don't know, Uh, it feels like

805
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: the Mavericks need to make a move and it's going

806
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 4: to be tough for them to do, so I don't know,

807
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, Dwight Powell, he's an important

808
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,760
Speaker 4: player for them as well, Maxi Cleeve is an important

809
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 4: player for them as well. But those they have a

810
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 4: lot of players who would be solid role players away

811
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 4: from Dallas, just like they have been there. But they

812
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: need something to take them into the next echelon of

813
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 4: the Western Conference.

814
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: With Brunson specifically, what type of deal is he going

815
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 2: to be looking at in free agency? That's like you

816
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 2: got to start figuring out if you're really Dallas Mavericks,

817
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: like you know, Ken we or are we willingly going

818
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: to pay him X amount? And if we're not, then

819
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: you sometimes unfortunately you go, well, let's get something in return.

820
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 3: It's going to be something like they've given to their

821
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: own players. They've they gave him Reggie Bullock, you know,

822
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: three for thirty or so and Tim Hardaway That four

823
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: for seventy five is probably somewhere either it's.

824
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: Going to be closer to Tim Hardaway. Yeah, then is

825
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: to Bullock?

826
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, summer, Yeah, I could see the fifty million

827
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,760
Speaker 3: dollar range. You know, three for fifty four.

828
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: Sety has them solve into a pretty good contract.

829
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, and you want him on your roster? Yeah,

830
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 3: I think it might be a year out that the

831
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 3: Mavericks have to make a move because they've got so

832
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: much money tied into those guys and mentioned Reggie Bullock

833
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: obviously hasn't worked out. Cleba Powell signed through next year.

834
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: They've got one hundred and twenty million or sorry, one

835
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 3: hundred and forty million locked up already for next season,

836
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, they might have to wait until contracts aspire

837
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 3: next season. But yeah, things are going so well for

838
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: them right now.

839
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: Bobby Marks, though he reminded me Dallas has a valuable

840
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: possibly valuable trade asset in a basically an eleven million

841
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: trade exception that they created last off season could come

842
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 2: into play here at the deadline. They're well positioned below

843
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,399
Speaker 2: the luxury attacks right now, sixteen point four million dollars

844
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: of room, so they could get in some help. All Right,

845
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: to the Denver Nuggets, I have nobody on my list

846
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: because they already made a move. This is the thing,

847
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: right They acquired Bryn Forbes from the Spurs as part

848
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 2: of that three team deal that involved Boston. But go

849
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 2: through their roster and maybe I'm missing a name, but

850
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 2: there's no chance for moving Jokic obviously, not Murray or

851
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: Porter being injured. Aaron Gordon can't be traded and won't

852
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: be because of his extension. So then you're like, will

853
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 2: Barton Morris a couple of Greens throwing your compost there,

854
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: and Jeff and Jamichael and Jamichael Green would have to

855
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 2: approve a trade anyway, Composo bones Hyland, I just I

856
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 2: don't see it. I don't think they're gonna be all

857
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: that active here at the Devil. Am I wrong?

858
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: You tell me, well, Jeff Green might get traded. Yeah,

859
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 4: he just might, you know. Yeah, but there's like two

860
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 4: or three teams he hasn't played for yet. He might

861
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 4: get traded.

862
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 2: Like he's trying to collect them all on a card,

863
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: like he's trying to get a Subway sandwich.

864
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, play for twenty teams, get the next ten to three. Okay,

865
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 4: he's getting close. But I'm kind of with you. It

866
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 4: feels like their move is going to be getting players healthy,

867
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 4: whether that is Michael Porter junior if he's able to

868
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 4: come back, or Jamal Murray a little bit later in

869
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: the season, and you know, Brent Forbes is not going

870
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: to be part of the rotation as well. It'd be

871
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 4: nice if they could figure out a way to get

872
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: a guard and maybe if you've got Jeff Green and

873
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 4: Jamichael Green similar sort of players play at the same

874
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 4: kind of position, which is a valuable position around the NBA.

875
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 4: So I don't know. I mean, like the Mavericks Jamichael

876
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: Green eight point two million, that fits into an eleven

877
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: million trade exception? There, does it does? Task?

878
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: What do you think? Or are the Nuggets like they

879
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 2: already made their move. They got a shooter in Forbes,

880
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: and then their hope is we get Murray and maybe

881
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: even Porter Junior back. These are our moves that we've

882
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: been because of Jokich or a five hundred squad. Wait

883
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: till those guys come back.

884
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

885
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 3: It feels like they just sign everybody. Every week they're

886
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 3: signing a G leaguer or a ten day er or

887
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 3: somebody deep in the queue. So I don't think they cousins, right, Yeah,

888
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 3: And because I don't think they deplete their roster anymore.

889
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 3: I think they just try and add through Porter and Murray,

890
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: who I have hoped for will be back in the

891
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: next couple of months.

892
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to the Golden State Warriors. Then I

893
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 2: have James Wiseman at the top of the list. No,

894
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: he hasn't played. The number two pick from the draft

895
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But he to me would

896
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: be him maybe Moody. I think Kaminga does feel a

897
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: little bit untouchable, you know, we've heard reports about that.

898
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 2: But if they're looking to move one of their young,

899
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: you know, very interesting prospects, he would be in the mix.

900
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: Now here's a here's a proposal. Would the Warriors do this?

901
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 2: Would they trade Looney and James Wiseman for Miles Turner

902
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 2: with let's say let's say one first round pick, be

903
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 2: it twenty twenty two, or even way in the future,

904
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty eight, whatever it is, Is that enough of

905
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 2: an upgrade to you for the Warriors? Go get Turner

906
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: in giving up obviously you know, a young player in

907
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 2: Wiseman and then Looney or are you like You're like, nah,

908
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 2: let's just roll with Looney at that point and her picks.

909
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 4: You're saying the Warriors would give up a pick as well,

910
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 4: I would think so that's way too much to me

911
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 4: for Miles Turner. I don't think Miles Turner fits at

912
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: all with the Warners. I think he would be a

913
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 4: poor fit because he just doesn't have a lot of

914
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: ball skills. And I always call him Miles the learner

915
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 4: turner because it feels like he's trying to learn moves

916
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 4: as the game is happening. Looney, for all of his

917
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 4: limitations and not really being able to jump, he's kind

918
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: of the perfect center for the Warriors. Never needs the ball, moves,

919
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 4: it sets good screens, and can play defense. So I

920
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 4: don't think they necessarily need to upgrade that spot. An

921
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 4: upgrade would be nice, but I think they can survive

922
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 4: with Looney. I think they need more playmaking, to be

923
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 4: quite honest, right now now, it seems to be the

924
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 4: only playmaking is if it's a hot Jordan Poole night

925
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: or if Klay Thompson gets it going a little bit.

926
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 4: So they need something to kind of take the load

927
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: off of Steph Curry. I would be more interested in

928
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 4: that than a big guy.

929
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they give up on their future.

930
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: Kuminga looks fantastic and James Wiseman's value couldn't be any

931
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: lower because he hasn't played this season, and so they

932
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: are in that perfect spot right now where president looks good,

933
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 3: future looks pretty freaking good, So why would they mess

934
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 3: with that? For as Trey said, slight up great potentially.

935
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 3: But Kevon Looney has been playing great, he really has,

936
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: and he's been healthy. Surprisingly he's usually in and out

937
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: of the lineup, but he's been durable and he has

938
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: been a help for them. He's been this is best

939
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: season and he's been around for a while.

940
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good that he's actually playing, too, because it

941
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: kind of feels like Draymond's going to be missing some

942
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 4: time here. Not a lot of confidence from Bob Myers

943
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: in the interview, kind of like laying out like it

944
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 4: might be a little bit before we actually get Draymond back,

945
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 4: and if that's the case, you're going to like having

946
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: the institutional knowledge that Looney brings.

947
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: Bobby Marks had this point that I saw too. The

948
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 2: Warriors have made deadline deals in the last two seasons,

949
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: uh huh. But when they were like going to the

950
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: finals like that stretch five years in a row, they

951
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: never made an, you know, an in season trade. So

952
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: it's that's fascinating in the sense, like where do they

953
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: think they fall right now in the pecking order of

954
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: their title chances?

955
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,320
Speaker 3: Right, and Steph always talks about the iterations of the

956
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: team or the different segments of this season. First we

957
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: get to know each other. Then Clay comes back, then

958
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 3: we have our playoff push. And I don't think they

959
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 3: mess with the chemistry more than Clay has already messed

960
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: with the chemistry to some degree. And so yeah, I

961
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: think they just try and write the ship a little bit.

962
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 4: I see Terrence Ross's name linked to the to the

963
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 4: Warriors too, as you know, an explosive, off the bench,

964
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: sort of six.

965
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: Man type of guy. They they have sort of pooled

966
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: in that role. So maybe it's a little overkill, but

967
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: I've seen some lead Ross and Warriors. Okay, to the

968
00:45:55,120 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: Houston Rockets now the Athletics. Kelly Eco says, the Rockets say,

969
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 2: no way, Eric Gordon's getting traded trade Kurty Cole bullshit

970
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: on that, and I'm with you, Eric Gordon. I have

971
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 2: as the top trade candidate from the Rockets, Christian Wood.

972
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 2: We could talk about him as well, but e g

973
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 2: under contract through twenty twenty three, twenty four, but non

974
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 2: guaranteed in that final year, and he is shooting forty

975
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: five point two percent from three.

976
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 4: You can shoot a three now.

977
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: Now, I believe Kelly Eco's reporting that the Rockets are saying,

978
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, we don't need to move him, because

979
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: I do think there's like some value in professional guy

980
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: that's been in this league for a while trying to

981
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: teach all these young guys, you know, how to go

982
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 2: about their business and you know, obviously get their body

983
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: right it they keep their mind sharp and like the

984
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 2: grueling uh you know, the tackling a grueling season like

985
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: an NBA season is I think there's some value in that,

986
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: And I get it. You want to have some of

987
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 2: those vets around, and he's been playing awesome, but they're silly.

988
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: If they're not at least of course fielding calls, and

989
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: if there's some deal that blows them away it's too

990
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 2: good to be true, then you're moving off Eric Gordon, right, Yeah,

991
00:46:59,480 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: you would have.

992
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: It feels like it's the time. It feels like Houston's

993
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,399
Speaker 3: moving in another direction. But I'm with you. You want

994
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 3: vets in the locker room to help everybody out. It's

995
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: like what's happening in Detroit as well with Jeremy Grant

996
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: and Kelly Olinick and Corey Joseph. You can get an

997
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: asset for those guys. You can get an asset for

998
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 3: Eric Gordon. The contract is a bit of a hiccup.

999
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 3: But you've got DJ Augustine being a vet there in Houston.

1000
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: That's enough veteran ship.

1001
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, John Wall too, if they really want

1002
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 4: that's in the locker room. Hey play that guy who

1003
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 4: wants to play for your team. I think Eric Gordon

1004
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: will be traded, and I think that team should be

1005
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 4: calling about Daniel Tye. Remember Daniel Tyson. Yeah, yeah, he's

1006
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: an actual NBA player.

1007
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: That's a good point.

1008
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's there for the Rockets for some reason. He's

1009
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,439
Speaker 4: got a long deal. But I would imagine some team

1010
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 4: could get interested in Daniel Tye, a guy that's played

1011
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: in the playoffs before.

1012
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: Do you think a team would offer right now a

1013
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: first round pick for Eric Gordon with how well he's shooting, Yeah,

1014
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: it seems like a lot.

1015
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: You know, when you say first round pick, there's always

1016
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: a prot period afterwards, it's protected. So what's a first

1017
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,280
Speaker 3: round pick these days? If it's a protected top twenty?

1018
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,879
Speaker 3: Are you getting from twenty one to thirty a better

1019
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: player than Eric Gordon? A former six Man of the

1020
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Year who's obviously playing to show that he can be

1021
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: on a championship team. Leadham play. I want to see

1022
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 3: eg On a championship team, being that six man, being

1023
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 3: the Jordan Poole role, being the Terrence Ross role. The

1024
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 3: guy can score. But yeah, the contract is a little

1025
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 3: bit of a hindrance.

1026
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: I guess to the LA Clippers, I have Serge Ibaka

1027
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 2: on this list for a really solely because they would

1028
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 2: save themselves so much money, it's hilarious. By trading abaca

1029
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: nine point three million dollars salary, the Clippers would see

1030
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 2: their ninety four million dollar tax penalty shrink to fifty

1031
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 2: three million, forty one million dollars in savings. They could

1032
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: do in some sort of hypothetical a Bacca deal. You know,

1033
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: so a lot of people out there think you call

1034
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: up Sam Presty, you say, hey, Sam, you want a

1035
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: second round pick? I love a second round pick absolutely.

1036
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 4: You know me, What do I need to do?

1037
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 2: Well, you gotta take Sarge of Baka off our hands,

1038
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 2: no problem, send them over, send them back to OKAC

1039
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 2: and we'll take a second round pick and you can

1040
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 2: make this happen. But I do have a Bacca there,

1041
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: and maybe there's other teams that feel like a Baca

1042
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 2: still got a little something left in the tank for

1043
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 2: a playoff push. But that's an incredible amount of money

1044
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: you could save. And your team is also mainly because

1045
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,479
Speaker 2: of unfortunate injuries to your star players. They're not going

1046
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 2: far currently constructed. So you're gonna probably do that with

1047
00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: the books. There aren't you tests.

1048
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and that's what the OKAC likes to do.

1049
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 3: That's why they keep their salaries low. Yep, I got

1050
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,280
Speaker 3: to hit the salary floor.

1051
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 4: And yeah, they're way below the salary floor.

1052
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you could ingest Serge Abacca's contract and not

1053
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 3: trade anything back zips it zero, but you take a

1054
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 3: second round pick and you're happy about it totally in

1055
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 3: Serge Obaca unfortunately. Yeah, he has looked a little aged

1056
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 3: since he has come back, although he could help.

1057
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 4: He's a great celebrator.

1058
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:15,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, very good.

1059
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was celebrated last night. Yeah, he brings good

1060
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 4: vibes in just that contract.

1061
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on, unless you have anyone else

1062
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: the Clippers that you can see them moving off of.

1063
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you. I think Ambaca is good just

1064
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: because he's on an expiring deal and like you're saying,

1065
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: maybe some team could say, hey, he's got enough for

1066
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: a playoffs push here and with the Paul George announcement

1067
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: kind of like it feels like the Clippers are maybe

1068
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 4: we make the play in tournament, maybe we don't totally

1069
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:46,439
Speaker 4: kind of a gap year season for them.

1070
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with that. I think they are looking

1071
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 2: at their roster with Paul George news and the QUI stuff,

1072
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,319
Speaker 2: it's like, this is a bit of a lost year.

1073
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 2: But let's just get all our young guys reps. Maybe,

1074
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: like you said, they get into the playing game, even

1075
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 2: into the playoffs, who knows, and that's that's great, and

1076
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 2: then we're like regroup for next season. But to save

1077
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: forty million dollars, they'll probably do that if they can.

1078
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe the Bucks could talk themselves into Sergeobaca being

1079
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 3: their backup center.

1080
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, its not bad.

1081
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 3: You know, he was in the Raptors locker room when

1082
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 3: they were able to overcome the two oh deficit in

1083
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 3: the conference finals in twenty nineteen where he said, you

1084
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: remember when I was with Okac, you remember that all

1085
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: the people in the lock QW. I said, no, I don't, No,

1086
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 3: I don't remember. But he said, we came back from

1087
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: O two down and we did it against the San

1088
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs. So maybe and then the Bucks could They'll.

1089
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 4: Say, yeah, we were down two oh in the finals

1090
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: and we won the finals last year.

1091
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 3: Who cares say, get out of here, sir, Sorry you're cut.

1092
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 2: Good point all right to the Lakers, the other LA team,

1093
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: there are only four things that are going to trade,

1094
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 2: all right, and we've gone over it before. Three players

1095
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 2: and a pick Taylor Harton Tucker Kendrick Nunn, DeAndre Jordan

1096
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 2: Sure and the twenty twenty seven first round pick, which

1097
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:04,280
Speaker 2: is the earliest pick they could possibly move, thht and none.

1098
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 2: You combine them together, that's fourteen point five million dollars,

1099
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 2: which means the max the Lakers could receive in a

1100
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 2: trade for the duo is about eighteen point two million.

1101
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: And that's important because like some of the better players,

1102
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: like your Jeremy Grants and stuff, that wouldn't work with

1103
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,160
Speaker 2: just those two. So I don't know if you have

1104
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: anything to add to the Lakers. Those are the only

1105
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: pieces that they will be moving here at the deadline

1106
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: if they do.

1107
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: It all No, nothing to add. The Excel sheet is hilarious.

1108
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: It's really funny when you look weird to look at

1109
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: the Lakers team. They basically have like five and a

1110
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 3: half players signed up for next season, and they're already

1111
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 3: paying them nearly one hundred and fifty million dollars, leaving

1112
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 3: the cupboard bear as they say. I wonder how it's

1113
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 3: gonna look in twenty twenty five with the Lakers. And

1114
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,439
Speaker 3: that's why a twenty twenty seven first round pick Trey

1115
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: said yesterday.

1116
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 4: Might be juicy, It could be sweet good.

1117
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 3: When they're starting Austin Reeves and others there in Los Angeles.

1118
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 3: They're still paying lou All.

1119
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: Dang, we're five mil, I know, for dang, who's taking

1120
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 4: a chance on Lowell?

1121
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: Dang?

1122
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: You can.

1123
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 4: What's about camp Beazemore?

1124
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1125
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: Remember he makes nothing, right, Yeah, he makes nothing. He

1126
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: could be a throw in.

1127
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right. I should have

1128
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 2: included him, and in the DeAndre Jordan portion of that

1129
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: if he's a chucked in there Memphis Grizzlies. Now I

1130
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 2: could go Kyle Anderson because of ooh, are they gonna

1131
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: be able to make those uh make the books work

1132
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 2: with him in a in a possible uh deal when

1133
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: he hits free agency. That that's a that's a bit

1134
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: of a no brainer. And I think it's a decision

1135
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 2: we made now they have immaculate vibes as we've always

1136
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: talked about, Like, I don't want to rock the boat

1137
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 2: too much with this great Memphis Grizzlyes team, but the

1138
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 2: money is about to get tight for them, so I

1139
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 2: think instead of Kyle Anderson, I'm gonna go Jarrett Culver,

1140
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 2: all right? So, uh, obviously a lesser name than than

1141
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 2: slow Mo. The Grizzlies did not opt in right to

1142
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: the final year of Culver's rookie contracts, so they did

1143
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: put them in a position where they cannot offer him

1144
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: any more on the contract than what his final year

1145
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: of that deal would have been in free agency. So

1146
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 2: one year roughly about eight million dollars. Grizzly Bear Blues,

1147
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 2: which is a great name for a blog. They had

1148
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: a trade idea, I want to throw you only for

1149
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 2: the sickos. Okay, warning, this is a trade only for

1150
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 2: the sicko.

1151
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 3: We're talking Jarrett here.

1152
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 2: That's right, day send Memphis does Jarrett Culver a twenty

1153
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 2: twenty six first round pick heavily protected one through twenty four,

1154
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: let's say, which could turn into then two second round

1155
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 2: picks if not conveyed four. John Schuman, are you listening

1156
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:43,800
Speaker 2: okcs Kenrich Williams. Now, the thinking is that Kenrich Williams

1157
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 2: can be a bit of a replacement for Kylie Anderson

1158
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: if he is to leave in free agency. You know,

1159
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 2: he's like that sort of three four sort of power

1160
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: or sort of point forward hybrid. He's not as good,

1161
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: but he does those things. He plays some defense. He's

1162
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 2: good for twenty minutes a game. And that's the thinking.

1163
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: That's a sick of trade. I mean that's Culver and

1164
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 2: probably two future second round picks for a ken Rich

1165
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: Williams thought.

1166
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 3: Wow, what is okay?

1167
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:10,280
Speaker 4: See?

1168
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 3: Why would okay, okay, see shouldn't do that?

1169
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: They Yeah, he said, a first round pick, heavily protected.

1170
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 3: But then I know, but you're saying that Kenrich is

1171
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: a poor.

1172
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 4: Culver is a young number six pick, wasn't he You

1173
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 4: think it's.

1174
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,879
Speaker 3: Not worth a first round No, we've we've those days

1175
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: are gone, unfortunately for Jared Culver. We were at the

1176
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 3: Memphis Bulls game in Memphis on MLK Day. Our buddy

1177
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 3: Dave Grisham said, is that Minnesota is Jared Culver running

1178
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 3: around out there because he was a first round pick

1179
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 3: of the Minnesota Timberwolves. But the stock has dropped.

1180
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and there's just no, there's no real spot

1181
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:48,879
Speaker 2: for him on this team. There's so many.

1182
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 3: No, he's got an expiring deal and they're gonna let

1183
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 3: him go. Can you turn Kyle Anderson to kenrich Williams,

1184
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 3: if you can, you do it in a heartbeat, because

1185
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: you said, yeah that Ken rich is a poor man. No,

1186
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 3: rich is a poor man's Kyle.

1187
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: He's good.

1188
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 3: I love I think he could be a rich man's

1189
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 3: Kyle Ken rich Man. Richmond's Yeah, Kyle's good, but Ken

1190
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 3: rich Man can play Ken Richmond, and he's more in

1191
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 3: line with the timeline of the Memphis Grizzlies. Kyle's twenty

1192
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: eight Ken rich I don't know. He's got an old

1193
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 3: man's hairstyle with that fro froey mullet. I don't even

1194
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 3: know what to call that thing. Yeah, it's crazy, but

1195
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 3: I would love him to be a part of that Grizzlies.

1196
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, nobody knows how old kenrich that's a little to

1197
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 4: find out.

1198
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: I think it's twenty three.

1199
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 4: Yes, twenty seven, Okay, looks as when you're younger and

1200
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 4: Kylie Anderson. So much for your theory there that he

1201
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 4: fits the timeline better Kyle Anderson for Derek Jones Junior.

1202
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh you would like that. That's very nice. But what's

1203
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 2: he's an expired that's expiring for expiring? Interesting? Yeah, there's

1204
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: got to be more coming back from the Bulls in

1205
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 2: that case.

1206
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: Second round pick now, no, we're talking. Now, you're talking.

1207
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1208
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 4: That's that's my favorite thing during trade season. If you're

1209
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 4: if your team has an underwhelming offer, just put a

1210
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,240
Speaker 4: second round pick on it. People are like, oh, pick cool, cool, Yeah,

1211
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 4: not that sounds fair. Second round picks, like you're getting

1212
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 4: a player once every five seasons who's actually good.

1213
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: Sure, bro picking. Let's go to the Minnesota Timberwolves. I

1214
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 2: went with Torrian Prince. He's on an expiring contract. He is,

1215
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 2: He is in and out of the rotation with Finch.

1216
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 2: He sometimes plays like, I don't know, twenty twenty five

1217
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: minutes a game. I think he plays like four minutes,

1218
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: so he don't even play. It's really really odd. I

1219
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: think they he's one of those guys class he's just

1220
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: a classic.

1221
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 4: Sort of three in D guy.

1222
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 2: But is he really that? No one's really convinced he

1223
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 2: is at this point, I think. But teams talk themselves

1224
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 2: into players like that all the time and athletics sort

1225
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 2: of wing and uh, you know, maybe the Wolves would

1226
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 2: move him to try and get more scoring, a little

1227
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 2: more scoring punch. Possibly Terrence Ross again, that name comes up,

1228
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 2: you know, Jeremy Lamb, who's got a brutal year for Indiana,

1229
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 2: but if you still believe in him bouncing back and

1230
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: come in the score that he was was. I got princes.

1231
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: I don't really have anyone else. Anyone come to mind

1232
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 2: on Minnesota. As you peruse the roster, you're really you're

1233
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 2: like stroking your atoms out.

1234
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.

1235
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 4: Beard stroke the massaging the apple.

1236
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, sometimes you shave under there and you get

1237
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: some some wounds. I do anyways, sure, and uh I

1238
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 3: like to just massage them my lesions anyway, Not really,

1239
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: I don't really, but I just I just happen to

1240
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,959
Speaker 3: be touching that area. So anyways, uh, while reading, while

1241
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 3: while I was touching my neck, I was reading about

1242
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,320
Speaker 3: Kenrich Williams hair. A lot of people calling it the

1243
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 3: puffy mullet. That's a great that's a great term. Anyways, Yeah,

1244
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 3: I know, I was also looking at the Wolf's roster, multitasking.

1245
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: I've got a screen, I got two browsers here on

1246
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 3: this one laptop to Prince some.

1247
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 2: Of his laptop in case people don't want a computer.

1248
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: Computers have changed from the first segment of this show

1249
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: to the second segment of the show. Wow, technology moves fast.

1250
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 4: You got any beef stuck in there?

1251
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? I got it's a problem detritus.

1252
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 2: See how much more boring the Western Conference is?

1253
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 4: Here?

1254
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 3: Well?

1255
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, who else gives me Angela Russell? He's been

1256
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: in trade rumor since he got Well, that's the problem.

1257
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: Why has he been traded before?

1258
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 2: Then? Why is it gonna like suddenly go throw in

1259
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 2: ten second round picks? Get me interested?

1260
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: Honestly, realistically, I didn't.

1261
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's gonna be moved. But he

1262
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,919
Speaker 2: had a game winner last night. Mayn't even talk about

1263
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 2: it anything about the Wolves? Who cares?

1264
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 3: Good luck?

1265
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 4: All right, well it gets Wait wait, what about Malik Beasley? Yeah, okay,

1266
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 4: I would rather trade for Malik Beasley than Torrian Prince.

1267
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it's gonna same type of deal though.

1268
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you get one extra year, plus there's

1269
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: a team option on Malik Beasley's last year of contract.

1270
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 4: I think, so at least you get at least you

1271
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 4: get a little bit more promise, a little bit longer contract.

1272
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, if you thought that was bad, what about the

1273
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:23,439
Speaker 2: Pelicans here? Can I interest you in Thomas Santaransky. Yeah.

1274
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,680
Speaker 2: A bunch of buzz though that the Pelicans are going

1275
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: to be buyers here at the deadline and not sellers,

1276
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: which I think is fascinating seeing their name linked to

1277
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 2: a lot of the Blazers guys like Norman Powell obviously

1278
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: just signed a deal with Blazers C J. McCollum, if

1279
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: they really want to get a little juicy there and

1280
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: try and get him down to New Orleans. But if

1281
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 2: that's the case, or if they are making any sort

1282
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 2: of move, Saturansky's ten million dollars contract that is expiring,

1283
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: it's going to be included. So that's why I have

1284
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: him as the top trade candidate.

1285
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Electorian prints expiring, tradable, tradable, definitely tradable. David Griffin

1286
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 3: could put him on the table and say, hey, you're

1287
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 3: only going to pay this guy like forty percent of that,

1288
01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 3: let's move on. But yeah, the Pelicans are such a

1289
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: strange situation because of what they did in the offseason

1290
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 3: where they kind of sort of took a lateral step

1291
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 3: step back, and they don't know what they're doing with

1292
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: sign It would be interesting if they were buyers. They

1293
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: need talent because they have heart in Josh Hart and

1294
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: all those guys. They need somebody. Yeah, well, they need

1295
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 3: somebody to Norman Powell would fit. It would be a

1296
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: glood of guards. But they need they need somebody to score.

1297
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to okac here the Thunder, Now you

1298
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: already brought this up. They have one of the lowest

1299
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: payrolls in the NBA, meaning they can make any move

1300
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: they want really between now and the trade deadline. They

1301
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: don't have to mess salary for almost anybody. They could

1302
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,600
Speaker 2: just absorb that contract without having to give back any

1303
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: salary return. So that's that's important to note. Besides their

1304
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: own first which is owed to the Hawks in the

1305
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: unlikely event it falls out of the top fourteen, which

1306
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,439
Speaker 2: that's what happening. The Thunder have twelve future first round

1307
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 2: picks from nine different teams. Okay, wild, So who is

1308
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: at the top of their candidates that they would look

1309
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: to move. I think it might be Kenrich Williams. Yeah,

1310
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 2: those were big fans of his. He is the type

1311
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: of player everybody wants because again, he's versatile wing, he

1312
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 2: stretches the floor, he plays defense, he does you know,

1313
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: he's a leader. You feel like he's twenty three, but

1314
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 2: he's twenty seven. Yeah, so that's nice. They're just a

1315
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: weird team trying to figure out. I mean again, I

1316
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 2: don't know what they're gonna do. I think they should

1317
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 2: be aggressively trying to get Mobamba. If the Magic are,

1318
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 2: you know, ready to move off of all their big

1319
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: guys there and Obama gets pushed out of the the

1320
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 2: rotation a little bit or out of their their future plans.

1321
01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the case. I'm not reporting

1322
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 2: that a lot when people say that, I'm not reporting

1323
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: that the Magic are actively looking to get rid of Mobamba.

1324
01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 3: You're the biggest Bomba fan I know.

1325
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: I No, that's not true. Kevin O'Connor is a bigger

1326
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: Mobamba fan than I am. But that's the type of

1327
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 2: player that these teams like the Thunder should definitely be going, Yeah,

1328
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 2: we'll pair him with our guys here in Jaye Jordan,

1329
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 2: stuff like that and see if he flourishes. He's actually

1330
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 2: having a pretty good year.

1331
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 3: He is.

1332
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: It's not bad ten eight two blocks plays like twenty

1333
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: seven minus per yet, So is there something, some sort

1334
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 2: of deal that they could make to the magic there? Yeah,

1335
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: they probably could if they want to. But I have

1336
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: Kenrick Williams.

1337
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 3: Don't know if he is the one. He's a winning player.

1338
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:34,640
Speaker 3: Somebody's gonna take him.

1339
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: So somebody's enough to take him.

1340
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 3: How much would it take Sam? How much is gonna take?

1341
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 4: Hey, you want to pick Sam? I know you want

1342
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 4: to pick Buddy.

1343
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,600
Speaker 3: Not a great pick.

1344
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 4: How about Mike Muscala the Moose. The Moose three and

1345
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: a half million this year, three and a half million

1346
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 4: next season, a team option, guys shooting threes, Lakers coming back.

1347
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 3: He's coming back to be a Los Angeles Laker, to

1348
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 3: shoot threes.

1349
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,439
Speaker 4: I'll give you a top fifty five protected second round

1350
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 4: pick for Mike Muscala.

1351
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 3: If I could pick at number fifty seven, I would

1352
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 3: take that.

1353
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: Who's untouchable on the thunder roster. It's SGA. Apparently it's

1354
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 2: not even Dort, but it should be. Uh, weren't there

1355
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: were you know, there were rumors going around the Dort

1356
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: report that Dort could be had Giddy ain't going anywhere.

1357
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: I think they'd be silly to do that is that's

1358
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: probably it.

1359
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 3: Anybody else can trade Poku. I wouldn't. I wouldn't trade him,

1360
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 3: but yeah, okay, or trade man. Trade man shouldn't be

1361
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 3: touched either.

1362
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I know, I know we got some untouchables.

1363
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: Phoenix Suns another shitty one. Guys. I went with Dario Sarich.

1364
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 2: Now he's not even playing. He's out for the entire

1365
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 2: twenty one twenty two season. I think, uh tours ACL

1366
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: in the finals, didn't he? Yep, he's under contract for

1367
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: next season. It's not brutal though. It's a pretty team

1368
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: friendly nine point two million dollar contract. So I think

1369
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: it was Bobby Mark suggesting, like a Sarich, maybe Jalen Smith,

1370
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:04,040
Speaker 2: because you've got you obviously have your your starting center

1371
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 2: in DeAndre Eaton, though you got to figure out what

1372
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 2: you're going to do with him in terms of money

1373
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: and then maybe some sort of pick. Would they offer

1374
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 2: that to Portland and would Portland want that for Covington?

1375
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:17,120
Speaker 2: Let's say I would think so if I'm the Blazers

1376
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: and I get offered that deal, are the Sons going

1377
01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: to be really trying to make a move here? I

1378
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 2: think is the question at the deadline, and if so,

1379
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: what do they need to do.

1380
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,520
Speaker 3: That's good, that's a very good value for both sides.

1381
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like Jalen Smith is going to be

1382
01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: there for a long time. They didn't offer him his

1383
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 3: extension or the guaranteed contract, the option on his contract.

1384
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: I should say so to pair him with an injured

1385
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 3: player for Robert Covington who could be there. Tory Craig

1386
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: of the playoffs sort of.

1387
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 2: So sorrich Jalen Smith future probably protected first round pick

1388
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 2: for Covington.

1389
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 3: I'd go second. I think you could get away.

1390
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 2: Lasers would sure like to get one of their first

1391
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 2: round picks. Didn't they give up two to get Covington?

1392
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 3: Yes, but he hoped that Jalen Smith could be a

1393
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:02,800
Speaker 3: future player in this week.

1394
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, anyone from the Suns.

1395
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 4: You think they'll you think they'll make a move here.

1396
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 4: I would bet against the Suns making a move just

1397
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: because continuity has kind of been one of their strengths.

1398
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 4: You know, they started with the eight to zero running

1399
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 4: the bubble, went to the finals last year. That the

1400
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 4: best team in the league through half the season right now,

1401
01:06:20,120 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 4: and that's just because they keep getting better and better.

1402
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: Playing together more and more often. I guess you could

1403
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 4: ask the question, would they trade DeAndre Ayton? Chris Paul

1404
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 4: can make any center good. DeAndre Ayton is a really

1405
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: good player, and we saw in the finals he was

1406
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 4: really really important. When he played their best, the Sons

1407
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 4: looked at their best. But if you're talking about like

1408
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 4: if they don't want to super maxim, which he's gonna

1409
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 4: get from somebody, somebody's gonna give him the maxim the summer,

1410
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,000
Speaker 4: and they don't want to pay that, now would be

1411
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 4: the time to trade them. I saw it some things

1412
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 4: Berblin Ayton Smith Sarich to the Bulls for Vouch Patrick

1413
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 4: Williams in nine thousand, first round, second round picks.

1414
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 2: Oh, come on, no Sunday doing that.

1415
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sunday doing no way I mean.

1416
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 2: But I'm also thinking they're going to come to an

1417
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 2: agreement on some sort of deal. So if they don't

1418
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 2: think they are, then they'll want something in return.

1419
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 4: I guess I agree. I think it would be far

1420
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 4: fetched they would trade eight and but I don't think

1421
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 4: it's a one hundred percent lock. Okay, he's there for

1422
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 4: his entire career.

1423
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: A couple more teams Blazers smy hook. You talk about

1424
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 2: a swear jar when it comes talking about trades and

1425
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:28,800
Speaker 2: the Blazers. It's Covington, it's Nurkic, it's McCollum.

1426
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 3: It's Dame, it's it's possible.

1427
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 2: Game will not be traded at this stepline. I'll bet you.

1428
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's okay. That's a good bet to make and

1429
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 3: a bad bet to take by me. I agree, But

1430
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 3: just look at it. This is the time to trade him.

1431
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 3: This is the time, thirty two years old, he's talking

1432
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 3: about his future and where it goes from here. I

1433
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 3: think it's unlikely, especially because he's injured and he won't

1434
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 3: be playing before the trade deadline. But if you want

1435
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 3: to try and rehabilitate your franchise after this era that

1436
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 3: has not worked out with McCollum and Lillard, it's time.

1437
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 3: I think it's time.

1438
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: So you're gonna trade it for Ben Simmons.

1439
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 3: Yes?

1440
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: Really?

1441
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 3: And you're talking about the cupboard that the Philadelphia seventy

1442
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: six ers have of picks. Darryl Morey has got no

1443
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 3: problem emptying that cupboard. I'll give you all the picks

1444
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 3: plus Ben for a Dame.

1445
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Thoughts.

1446
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 4: Hey, uh, I would love it. I wouldn't love it.

1447
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 4: I would feel sad for the Blazers fans. But I mean,

1448
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: tell Us is right, it's time. I just don't think

1449
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 4: it's gonna happen. I think Lillard is there until he

1450
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 4: gets that huge deal and then perhaps we will see

1451
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 4: some movie.

1452
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 3: Yes see, you gotta do it now. I gotta agree,

1453
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,680
Speaker 3: agree now, or else you're not going to get the

1454
01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 3: same value for him, or he leaves on his own,

1455
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 3: or he demands a trade. Simmons was probably is probably

1456
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 3: going to be I think the best player that you'd

1457
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 3: get back for him, considering his age. Simmons and Simon's

1458
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 3: in the backcourt. Again, I love it. And Philadelphia give

1459
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:05,080
Speaker 3: you every pick they got. I don't know how many

1460
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 3: picks they have.

1461
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 2: Here's my question with the Blazers. Who warrants an emergency podcast? Obviously,

1462
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: if theme gets traded, we're jumping on the oh on

1463
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: the phone, or we're here in the Classic Factory, do

1464
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 2: it one immediately.

1465
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 4: But C J.

1466
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 2: McCollum gets traded tomorrow emergency podcast? Yep, Okay, Nurkic, you

1467
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 2: bet you I mean Covington. Yeah, it's tough man. We

1468
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 2: did a cam Reddish emergency, but it was perfect timing.

1469
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 2: We were like just finished our show. We were right here.

1470
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,759
Speaker 2: There's no way we were driving back to the Classic

1471
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 2: for a cam retistry.

1472
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 3: We could do a live stream from our cars.

1473
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we don't touch.

1474
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 3: Don't touch, OK, just put it on, put the phone

1475
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 3: on the dash, lock it off and just talk to

1476
01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 3: the phone. Don't even look at it. Just drive properly.

1477
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: So you're basically saying, we're doing an emergency podcast for

1478
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 2: any sort of trade.

1479
01:09:55,000 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 3: Keep going, little c j ell second round pick, conditional

1480
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: second round pick, cash consideration.

1481
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:06,719
Speaker 4: Yes, we're not doing an emergency podcast about a second

1482
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 4: round pick. Like, whatever the worst trade is.

1483
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,280
Speaker 2: We gotta do it all right, try thou so. A

1484
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,480
Speaker 2: couple more teams Kings, Oh my god, just like the Blazers.

1485
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,760
Speaker 2: I have them in order most likely to move here,

1486
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 2: Buddy Healed, Marvin Bagley the third because I think they're

1487
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:26,599
Speaker 2: gonna be paired together, Harrison Barnes and Darren Fox. There's

1488
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 2: been an emergency trade call.

1489
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 4: Spam resk Jesus Christ.

1490
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: Off the rails. I knew we shouldn't have done the

1491
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,400
Speaker 2: Western Conference.

1492
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 4: I knew it. I thought it was muted.

1493
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 2: The Kings, everybody available.

1494
01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 3: I think the answer is no, Tyre's Halliburton. I decided.

1495
01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 3: I decided in that instance that Tyre's Halliburton ain't going anywhere. Okay,

1496
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 3: if you have to package him to get off of

1497
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: somebody that don't want no, no, keep entire keeping time,

1498
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 3: everybody else could go.

1499
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:06,920
Speaker 4: Ye.

1500
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 3: And I think Harrison Barnes is probably the number one

1501
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,640
Speaker 3: with a bullet to be traded. Okay, I think he

1502
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 3: would be the one.

1503
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree. I think Harrison Barnes is the player

1504
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,200
Speaker 4: that if you're looking at the Kings and your a

1505
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 4: contending team saying we're one piece away, maybe it could

1506
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,680
Speaker 4: be Harrison Barnes, a large wing, kind of a small ball,

1507
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 4: four hits, threes is played in the finals. I think

1508
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: he's the easiest to talk yourself into as an added piece.

1509
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 4: Or maybe Buddy Heel does as well, though his contract

1510
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 4: is a little bit more just shooting threes. But yeah,

1511
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to find an untouchable player on

1512
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 4: the old Sacramento Kings. I guess Halliburton would be the guy.

1513
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 4: Are the Bulls like calling the Kings about Harrison Barnes,

1514
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 4: I would hope so bulls are very very quiet right now.

1515
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 4: I would say, not hearing much, not here in much,

1516
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 4: which tends to be the case with Ak.

1517
01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 2: All right, San Antonio Spurs, I have Thatty Young at

1518
01:12:00,720 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 2: the top of their list, same reasons as a lot

1519
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 2: of these guys I've mentioned with some of the previous

1520
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: teams expiring fourteen point two million dollar contract. He is

1521
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: obviously you can play play the front core positions. You

1522
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: can play a backup five. I wonder if the Bucks,

1523
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: I wonder if that'd be a wild, wild little move there.

1524
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: Could the Bucks get Dadius Young as like insurance backup

1525
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 2: five position. He's a little obviously a little smaller than

1526
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: your normal fives, but he can play it, and he's

1527
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: just that veteran presence. But I think the Spurs they

1528
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 2: don't make a lot of moves during the regular season.

1529
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 2: They already made one though with Forbes. If they get offered,

1530
01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:37,880
Speaker 2: you know it's not going to take a whole lot

1531
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: to get Dadias Young. I think he could be on

1532
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 2: the move.

1533
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,680
Speaker 3: Yes, optimist, if you love the trades, yes, say look

1534
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 3: at the Spurs roster with all these first round picks,

1535
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 3: all these young guys that they've assembled over the years,

1536
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,599
Speaker 3: and you say package them up for a SA bonus

1537
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,840
Speaker 3: package them up for a good player who's on the block,

1538
01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 3: Lonnie Walker, Devin Vassell who they probably want to keep,

1539
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 3: Josh Primo. They've got so many guys at the guard spot.

1540
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 3: But realistically, and that's what we do here on No Dunks,

1541
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,800
Speaker 3: we don't jump the gun and say everyone's going to

1542
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 3: be dealt. Thaddeus Young is probably the guy on an

1543
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 3: expiring deal. He's your Daniel Tice. He's in that serge

1544
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 3: of Baka family. Tradeable for sure, and a championship team

1545
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 3: would love to have a guy like that.

1546
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, basically the same exact thing as Bryn Forbes. He's

1547
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,240
Speaker 4: on a deal that ends this year, a veteran player

1548
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 4: who makes more sense for a team that's trying to

1549
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 4: win right now. So that'll be weird Spur suddenly making

1550
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 4: two trades in the middle of a season. Got to

1551
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 4: do an emergency podcast, All right, final team is the

1552
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 4: Utah Jazz.

1553
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 2: I thought this one was difficult. They're obviously on a

1554
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,519
Speaker 2: bit of a slide right now because they're missing a

1555
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: lot of their guys. I just am curious whether they're

1556
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,040
Speaker 2: going to trade a little offense for defense, and so

1557
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 2: the two names I have on the list that maybe

1558
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 2: they look to move. I think it's unlikely, but maybe

1559
01:13:55,400 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 2: Joe Ingles or Jordan Clarkson again with the idea, let's

1560
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,360
Speaker 2: get a little more defense in here for a playoff

1561
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:06,000
Speaker 2: push a wing guy. We got roy Tonioli. He does

1562
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: a fine job, but we could probably use a little

1563
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: bit more. And you know, Ingles and Clarkson, they're not

1564
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 2: having great offensive years either, so maybe maybe they love

1565
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 2: to move one of those guys. But I thought this

1566
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: was a tough team to pick too.

1567
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 3: They have that need, that's for sure. It's an interesting

1568
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 3: conundrum though, because you're still going to be starting Mitchell

1569
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: Conley and Bogdanovic as your sort of wing guys, and

1570
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 3: so I don't know, is there a defensive guy out

1571
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 3: there that would I mean, match up for Ingles or Clarkson.

1572
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it makes sense offense for defense for them,

1573
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 3: but I don't I don't love it.

1574
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: I think Ingles is a little bit more realistic. It

1575
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 4: feels like his name is actually coming up in rumors

1576
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 4: a little bit right now, and his contract is expiring

1577
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 4: at the end of the season. A little bit of duplication.

1578
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 4: I think with him and Jordan Clarkson, they were both

1579
01:14:56,280 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 4: the sixth Man of the Year candidates last year, So

1580
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,439
Speaker 4: you can't have twoesday. One of them has to be seventh.

1581
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 4: Might as well trade the seventh one to get a

1582
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:05,800
Speaker 4: different seventh man who does something a little bit different.

1583
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 4: I can see that happening, though. The Jazz are kind

1584
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 4: of a let's not rock the boat kind of team

1585
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 4: in general.

1586
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 2: As we wrap this up here, which team are you

1587
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 2: praying makes a move in the next two weeks for

1588
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 2: whatever reason you want? Is it the Kings, Is it

1589
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 2: the Blazers? Is it the Sixers for obvious reasons with

1590
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, or another team that you're just like, I

1591
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: just want them to make a deal.

1592
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 3: Of some note. I think it's Philly for me.

1593
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 4: Okay, me too, because if the Philadelphia seventy six Ers

1594
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:36,960
Speaker 4: don't trade Ben Simmons, we're gonna have three months of

1595
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 4: reverse trade rumors basically saying, why didn't the Philadelphia seventy

1596
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 4: six Ers trade Ben Simmons, here's who they could have

1597
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 4: had who did get traded, And then we're going to

1598
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 4: go into the summer and we're gonna have the same

1599
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 4: trade rumors about Ben Simmons once again.

1600
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could definitely see these were the packages that

1601
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: were on the table. Is it tampering if Darryl Morriy

1602
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 3: goes on radio and says, the Kings offered XX and X.

1603
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:00,840
Speaker 4: Uh, I can't.

1604
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't think he can name the players, but he

1605
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 2: can name the team. I think I honestly think I

1606
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: think he sort of said that.

1607
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he can say, like, they offered a wing. Yeah,

1608
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:16,639
Speaker 4: it'd be very vague. Yams possibly offered a wing from Iowa,

1609
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 4: could be anyone. Yeah.

1610
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 2: That is a great point because when they inevitably don't

1611
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 2: trade Ben Simmons here the next two weeks, then the

1612
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 2: Sixers are going to get into playoff series, and if

1613
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 2: they lose to Team X, it's gonna be like, see,

1614
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 2: you could have had YEP, this player and he would

1615
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 2: have sure helped to slow down that player that lets

1616
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 2: you up for thirty eight or whatever the help for

1617
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 2: him bed.

1618
01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 4: I mean, we still hear about the Lakers not trading

1619
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,640
Speaker 4: for Kyle Lowry at last deadline, right right? Could have

1620
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 4: had him for THHD Could he easily had him if

1621
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,840
Speaker 4: you wanted to, Not to mention, we'll also get the

1622
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 4: questions of Sixers are looking good. I think Ben Simmons

1623
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 4: could actually.

1624
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:57,760
Speaker 2: For sure.

1625
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: No, thanks, Okay, So you just got me thinking about

1626
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 3: the Jazz because I do want them to utilize this

1627
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 3: window that they have here. Yeah, this is dumb, but

1628
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:08,520
Speaker 3: Mike Conley for Marcus Smart.

1629
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 2: Whoa Mike for Mark? I don't love it.

1630
01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: The Celtics have a vet Mike Conley to get everybody going.

1631
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 3: He's old, obviously.

1632
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I was gonna say, I don't like it from

1633
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 2: the Jazz as much.

1634
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: He's right beside Donovan. You know you're getting as a

1635
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 3: secondary playmaker.

1636
01:17:29,240 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna keep Conley in this case. Okay, but

1637
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,639
Speaker 2: the Jazz ares right now because the guys aren't there,

1638
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: and they were, they looked like they looked like one

1639
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 2: of the elite teams in the league. And now rum

1640
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 2: it here. Yes, John, but hey, if you're gonna star

1641
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,960
Speaker 2: Raga strug out right now late January and get it

1642
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 2: together for the final couple months, Okay, we're gonna take

1643
01:17:46,479 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 2: our last break when we come back, though, tk's got

1644
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 2: a tweet the night I'm gonna spoil it. We're gonna

1645
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,000
Speaker 2: be talking about this new Rising Stars format, which is

1646
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: pretty wild. So don't go anywhere back with no Dunk's

1647
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: in the Classic Factory. Before we get to Trey's tweeted

1648
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:05,960
Speaker 2: the night. Somebody in Live Time here tweeted me Matthew

1649
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 2: p Upsher. He said, you just asked on the pod

1650
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: what it would look like to remove Yokich or embid

1651
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: from their teams. Here's an interesting way to look at it.

1652
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 2: And he pointed me in the direction of this tweet

1653
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: from Andy Bailey, who says the Nuggets have the point

1654
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 2: differential of a sixty three win team with Yokich on

1655
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:26,800
Speaker 2: the floor and that of a ten win team when

1656
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 2: he's off. The seventy six ers have the point differential

1657
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 2: of a fifty eight win team with Embiid on the

1658
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:36,360
Speaker 2: floor and of a thirty seven win team when he's off.

1659
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 2: So there you go. The numbers have our answer, at

1660
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 2: least in terms of point differential when we're talking about

1661
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 2: removing those guys Yokich.

1662
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 4: MVP locking in also at the top of basketball references,

1663
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,960
Speaker 4: MVP tracker locking in. He's going to be the advanced

1664
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,600
Speaker 4: that's MVP guarantee locking in.

1665
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:53,600
Speaker 3: Love it.

1666
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1667
01:18:57,560 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 3: Tweet of the night, Wow, three tweets of the night.

1668
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 4: They've already been seen by everybody out there, but we're

1669
01:19:07,880 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 4: talking about them right now. First one from Shams sources,

1670
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,639
Speaker 4: the NBA has a new format for the Rising Stars

1671
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 4: at All Star Weekend. Four seven player teams competing in

1672
01:19:17,720 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 4: a three game tournament. Each game has a final target score.

1673
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 4: It's gonna be twelve rookies, twelve sophomores, and for the

1674
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 4: first time, four G League Ignite players. Interesting. Second tweet

1675
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 4: from Shams, the Rising Stars at All Star Weekend will

1676
01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 4: have a Clutch Challenge in the middle of games two

1677
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 4: and three, where eight NBA and G League Ignite players

1678
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 4: are divided into four teams of two to make five

1679
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 4: baskets from locations of iconic NBA playoff shots. Third one,

1680
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 4: the two semi final games will be played to a

1681
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 4: final target score of fifty. The final game will be

1682
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 4: played to a fin target score of twenty five. That's

1683
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,600
Speaker 4: a total of seventy five points in honor of the

1684
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:08,839
Speaker 4: NBA's seventy fifth anniversary season.

1685
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a lot of things.

1686
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of changes for the Rising Stars Challenge,

1687
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 4: which I'll say worst part of All Star Weekend currently

1688
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 4: is the Rising Stars chundred percent. Yeah, So this is

1689
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 4: a little confusing how it's actually gonna happen. Once we

1690
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 4: see it happen, it's probably gonna be better than what's

1691
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 4: currently going on because the last like five minutes of

1692
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:36,040
Speaker 4: the current Rising Stars Challenges, it's almost a dunk contest, right,

1693
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 4: It's like, Okay, let's see Jalen Green, Let's see what

1694
01:20:38,280 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 4: kind of cool moves you can do. So even though

1695
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 4: this seems pretty crazy and they're like, we threw every

1696
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 4: idea we had for a basketball into this one tournament,

1697
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 4: that's kind of what it feels to me. This is

1698
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 4: like making a decadent Kish. Throw in every vegetable you

1699
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,920
Speaker 4: have in the fridge. Why not potatoes? You got left

1700
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 4: over French fries? Throw them in.

1701
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 3: I don't huh, I had no idea that was what

1702
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 3: Aish did. But yeah, I.

1703
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 4: Would say for Todd has more for the junk, But uh,

1704
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,640
Speaker 4: I mean difference, It's just all about the crust, is

1705
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 4: the difference.

1706
01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 3: Nonetheless, throw your whole keish and sink out there. Everything

1707
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 3: but the che keechen sink.

1708
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:15,200
Speaker 2: Everything but the keechen snk.

1709
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 3: Name, Hey are we are?

1710
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 2: We're having a stroke For the second. Honestly, it was like, okay, might.

1711
01:21:26,080 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 4: Be a little juice though for the old Rising Stars Challenge.

1712
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:33,200
Speaker 4: So that's my other question for you is what shots

1713
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 4: do you think they're gonna Yeah, that's fun. Okay, hold on,

1714
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 4: this is called the Clorox Clutch Challenge. This is two ball,

1715
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,000
Speaker 4: bleach ball. I mean, do you remember two ball? I mean,

1716
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 4: we're the weird.

1717
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: I remember remember all the All Star weekend events. That's

1718
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 2: basically what this was. It was teams of two, You

1719
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: took shots, you alternated shots. That's what they're doing here. Yeah,

1720
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: and I actually I remember liking two ball, so I'm

1721
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 2: excited to see it come back in some form here.

1722
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 2: But yeah, where will the shots be? Mark me down

1723
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,720
Speaker 2: for a Damian Lillard walk off? Now nice, so I'll

1724
01:22:05,760 --> 01:22:09,280
Speaker 2: take one of those. Uh, pull me down for a

1725
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 2: Jordan Jordan at the free throw line.

1726
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:15,240
Speaker 3: Maybe Derek Fisher. Perhaps.

1727
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 2: I'm thinking it's gonna be players on the top seventy

1728
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: five list.

1729
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 4: So Ray Allen corner three big oh, magic Johnson skyhook.

1730
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,560
Speaker 2: Similar location. I guess to Jordan, right, where was he?

1731
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 4: It was like he was in the lane. Yeah, all right,

1732
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,599
Speaker 4: I think that one's a guarantee. Kawhi Leonard's bounce shot.

1733
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 4: You gotta replicate it. It just the location, yeah there.

1734
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: You don't have to back up like Ray, you just

1735
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 3: have to shoot it. You know.

1736
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 4: That's a good point. Just a corner time.

1737
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: I like right now I'm on a Lillard. I just

1738
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be there for some reason, a Lillard.

1739
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 2: I like the Ray Allen corner, and I like the

1740
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,760
Speaker 2: Jordan at the free throw line over the Calves. May

1741
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 2: actually maybe even just Jordan's jumper against the Jets, because

1742
01:22:57,560 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 2: that's a possibility.

1743
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,400
Speaker 4: To I mean, they could do five Michael Jordan shot. Yeah,

1744
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,000
Speaker 4: they wanted to. So I think a free throw is

1745
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 4: what it's going to be, because that could be the

1746
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,160
Speaker 4: Jazz shot or the Cavs shot.

1747
01:23:05,240 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 3: Take your pick, right right, right right, Yeah. Top seventy

1748
01:23:08,200 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 3: five part is interesting. Otherwise you could have what the

1749
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 3: stream team mentioned here. Phil Law one two to three

1750
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 3: says Kyrie shot on the dubs side step three there.

1751
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a feeling it's going to be shots

1752
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:22,639
Speaker 2: of players on the maybe on the top seventy five list,

1753
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: seventy six list, I guess, But.

1754
01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 3: I guess maybe you got that in your brain because

1755
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 3: some of the Top seventy five members will be coaching

1756
01:23:30,520 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 3: these teams here in the tournament. On Friday, there's a

1757
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 3: lot of things. Of course, it's top seventy five weekend.

1758
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 3: Will be celebrating the top seventy five weekend ourselves with

1759
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 3: the little no dunk spin. That's a tease for you

1760
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 3: coming up. But I think Friday, Yes, it's complicated. As

1761
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 3: Trey said, everything you've ever heard about a basketball game,

1762
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:55,560
Speaker 3: the elim ended shots from locations, a tournament, and you

1763
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: know half sort of like a halftime event. It's all complicated.

1764
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 3: When you're reading four tweets, I read it over and

1765
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: over and over. But yeah, zoom out Friday. Even for

1766
01:24:05,240 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 3: US sickos, every All Star weekend is it's a big Lol.

1767
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,800
Speaker 3: It's just it's it's the yeah, the anticlimactic part of

1768
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: the weekend where the Rooks and the sophomores get in

1769
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 3: there and they throw the ball up and they don't care.

1770
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 3: But endings they got to solve everything.

1771
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 4: You know, you gotta play for something.

1772
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you'll have two games to get to fifty.

1773
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: You'll have this event before the finals, and that's uh

1774
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 3: followed up by a game to twenty five. So total points,

1775
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 3: so done and done. I think it'll be interesting. It'll

1776
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 3: be it'll be better.

1777
01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 2: Maybe I mean better because they're shorter games.

1778
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 4: I guess.

1779
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: You got something, you got something to play for.

1780
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: They're going to be better the night.

1781
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 3: I think the night, you know, as a whole, will

1782
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,920
Speaker 3: be better. You got something something to play for. Again,

1783
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 3: the elam ending. You're you've got this eventual thing you

1784
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:03,960
Speaker 3: got get to and fans know that at home. So yeah,

1785
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 3: mess it up, like we just saw what happened in

1786
01:25:06,360 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 3: the NFL playoffs in overtime. You don't screw with things

1787
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, But when you're talking about an All

1788
01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:16,479
Speaker 3: Star weekend, screw it out. Creative Okay, yeah, so Friday

1789
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 3: is better. You want to get creative.

1790
01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 4: I've got a great idea for an All Star weekend event.

1791
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:22,600
Speaker 4: Sure must watch event would be the best event of

1792
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 4: the weekend. Guaranteed it only works during the seventy fifth anniversary.

1793
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: We get every player on the seventy fifth Anniversary team,

1794
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 4: line them up. Can they still dunk? Wow? Michael Jordan,

1795
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 4: you think you can still dunk?

1796
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1797
01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 4: Shack, yes, Kareem abdul Jabbar yes.

1798
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 3: Wow.

1799
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,799
Speaker 2: He's a big guy, big.

1800
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,439
Speaker 4: Guy, old guy. Shack couldn't dunk for a long time

1801
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 4: after his career was over. Remember he would try again,

1802
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 4: try in the Yeah, I think you can now, Doctor

1803
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 4: Jay I remember what had his famous things like every

1804
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,719
Speaker 4: year he would go out on his birthday and dunk

1805
01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 4: Magic Johnson.

1806
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,640
Speaker 3: No, no way, he's working out on a boat. But

1807
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 3: he looks a little heavier.

1808
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 4: Can they dunk? I'm telling you this would be must watch.

1809
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 4: It would be every legend in NBA history. Man, I

1810
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:13,439
Speaker 4: wonder Bob Pettitt, he's still alive? Can he dunk? Let's

1811
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 4: find out? I like it.

1812
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: This would be the year to do it. This will

1813
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: be the year a lot of you know unfortunately, Uh,

1814
01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: like a training staff and stretchers all lined up, there'd

1815
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 2: be a lot of blown out.

1816
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 4: Uh just just a single jump, Dominique Wilkins, Can he dunk?

1817
01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 4: You bet?

1818
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 3: You do?

1819
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: You tuning in to find it? Yeah?

1820
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 3: Exactly?

1821
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 2: Back to like the little tournament here. How are they

1822
01:26:42,520 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 2: gonna do? Like how we doing the drafting of teams?

1823
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: Are we just gonna like get the rosters and then

1824
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,680
Speaker 2: the league's just gonna put them on squads? Is that

1825
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? Right? Because it's it's gonna be a

1826
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: jumble of rookie sophomores and then these couple of ignite players.

1827
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 2: Is what's gonna happen? And you're fine with that? Yeah,

1828
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,360
Speaker 2: you don't want on the dot to pick the teams.

1829
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 4: I would be pissed if I was the twenty fifth

1830
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 4: Rising Star and I got left off for a G

1831
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 4: League player, I'll tell you that much well, or if

1832
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 4: I don't know about that, or if I was the

1833
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 4: fifth best G League Night player, that's more. That's more

1834
01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:16,879
Speaker 4: emergency podcast for G League snubs.

1835
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, all right, Well let's hear what people think

1836
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 2: of this new Rising Stars format. Are you going to

1837
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:25,160
Speaker 2: be tuning in on Friday night to see this little tournament,

1838
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,719
Speaker 2: to see this new challenge? Did you even tune into

1839
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:29,640
Speaker 2: Friday Night's Rising Stars game as it was?

1840
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 4: Right?

1841
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: Because that was the one I definitely checked out the most.

1842
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: On of course, I'm like, I'll watch the highlights. Yeah,

1843
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 2: I don't need to see here for a couple of hours.

1844
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 4: The celebrity game is better than the Rising Stars Yeah, yeah,

1845
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 4: maybe actually get a four point line.

1846
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 2: Is that happening? Probably not, it's a great question. Probably not.

1847
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 3: It would be nice when they announced all these changes

1848
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 3: to include who is playing in these games already, Like say,

1849
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,479
Speaker 3: LaMelo Ball is going to be out there, Why the

1850
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: heck wouldn't you get excited that?

1851
01:27:57,479 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be coming doorry right. I know when that'll

1852
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 2: be content. We'll be talking about debating the sophomore.

1853
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 3: We could be debating if Lamela LaMelo Ball will be

1854
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:10,640
Speaker 3: the guy shooting from the Damian Lillard spot. Will he

1855
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: make it?

1856
01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,000
Speaker 2: You know that kind of lots of time.

1857
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 3: I do.

1858
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,840
Speaker 2: Like my final note on the actual challenge part, there

1859
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 2: was like in the details on NBA dot com, they're

1860
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,240
Speaker 2: doing the thing where you know, the first team goes,

1861
01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 2: they set their time, and then then and then the

1862
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: second what squad comes up and if they they just

1863
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,880
Speaker 2: have to beat that time to advance, you know what

1864
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 2: I mean. Like, so the first team sets the mark

1865
01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 2: and then it's just like, oh, next team, can you

1866
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 2: beat that? Oh now now you've got it? Can the

1867
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 2: third team beat it? There's no like advance to what. Well,

1868
01:28:41,040 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: it's just like the best time obviously wins. There's no

1869
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 2: redoing of it, I guess is what I'm saying, Like

1870
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 2: you only get one crack at it.

1871
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:54,200
Speaker 3: Yeah you're not advancing. It's yeah, one team wins, but so.

1872
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 4: As the winner of the Chlorox Challenges fast as time,

1873
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,879
Speaker 4: that's different than the winner of the Rising Stars tournament.

1874
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 3: Yea, yeah, it's a team of two. They have the

1875
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:10,000
Speaker 3: shootout thing that's the Clorox and then there's the games.

1876
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 4: Huh just watch Yeah, no, no, definitely there are two

1877
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:14,760
Speaker 4: separate things.

1878
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,560
Speaker 3: So, yeah, they have a little tournament. The shots that

1879
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 3: we're talking.

1880
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,000
Speaker 2: Are going to be four things happening on Friday night.

1881
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:24,360
Speaker 2: Three games two to fifty one, twenty five, the finals,

1882
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,760
Speaker 2: and then this Clorox Challenge, which is basically two.

1883
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 3: Two games and then they shoot from spots that playoff

1884
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:33,400
Speaker 3: legends have been made before, and they have a race.

1885
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 3: It's a race to make the show.

1886
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 2: That's exactly right.

1887
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 3: And they sat down and then the tournament. Yeah, let's

1888
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 3: get them.

1889
01:29:40,479 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 4: Back out here. It's gonna be hilarious. I don't know

1890
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 4: why I thought that the Clorox Challenge was like part

1891
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:46,760
Speaker 4: of the game. If you win that, you get you

1892
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 4: get five points off, you're elam ending or something like that.

1893
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,080
Speaker 3: The Clorox thing is just strange. Clorox and basketball doesn't

1894
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 3: seem to mix. Maybe they'll clean the floor.

1895
01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's possible.

1896
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,280
Speaker 3: Losers have to clean the floor.

1897
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Let's hear e thoughts on this badness that's going to

1898
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 2: be going down on Friday night. We're doing a we're

1899
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: doing a watch party for this. Yep, only have a challenge.

1900
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Oh oh, we challenge. Okay, pick a resolve brought you

1901
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 2: by bet MGM from last night. It was the Lakers

1902
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 2: Nets game. Lakers were favored by three and a half

1903
01:30:18,400 --> 01:30:20,840
Speaker 2: on the road. You know, we had Ad possibly coming back.

1904
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:23,519
Speaker 2: He did come back, he played, and the Lakers looked

1905
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 2: pretty solid there Nets short handed, no Katie of course,

1906
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 2: no Kyrie because they're at home. Harden had a triple double.

1907
01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 2: But they lost. And that's an l for Task and Trey,

1908
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 2: which is fascinating because Lee was with me taking the Lakers.

1909
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 2: We got the victory. I'm ten and six. I'm clear

1910
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,360
Speaker 2: of these guys. I will not be having to owe

1911
01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,080
Speaker 2: another pick a payoff already two still. But you two

1912
01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: guys here and Lee who's still playing with Lego at home,

1913
01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: are all six and ten. And there are four nights

1914
01:30:52,720 --> 01:30:54,840
Speaker 2: left in January for us to pick games. The rest

1915
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 2: of this week Tonight, Thursday, Friday, and then Monday is

1916
01:30:57,320 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 2: January thirty first, So you're not clear, I guess I'm teching.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess office.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I'm clear. Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations man, Okay, So what's our game's next? The Dallas

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Speaker 3: Mavericks have been playing very well, though they're coming off

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Speaker 3: a loss last night Golden State Warriors, a thirty seven

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Speaker 3: point smack in the end, playing agast Portland Trailblazers team

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Speaker 3: that also has been playing better six and four in

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Speaker 3: their last ten. So Dallas going into Portland, both back

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Speaker 3: to backs, Portland a four and a half point dog

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Speaker 3: at home, So I'm comfortable taking those four points. Will

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Speaker 3: you guys believe the three of you. I'll believe that

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01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 3: the Mavericks will win by five or more because again

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Speaker 3: they have been playing their best ball of the season.

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Speaker 2: Yep, both in back to back situations. Obviously, the Blazers

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01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,599
Speaker 2: staying at home, they're helped out there, and you're right,

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Speaker 2: they got some points to play with. This could definitely

1933
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 2: be a close game, but I like a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a bounced back.

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Speaker 4: Performance for the Mavericks to be a bounce back. Also,

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Speaker 4: I think it's the third game and four nights for

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Speaker 4: both of these teams gonna be an ugly one could

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Speaker 4: I do believe this shall be an ugly game.

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Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of games on the sched this evening.

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Speaker 4: We got all our guys and gals plugged.

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Speaker 2: Into all these teams. I think there's like a there's

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