WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Jasmine Guy Talks Relationship With Tupac, Jada Pinkett Smith, Freaknik, Hollywood + More 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:02.560 Wait tail as up in the morning. 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:08.680 Breakfast Club Morning, everybody is DJ Envy just hilarious, Charlamage 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:10.479 the guy. We are to Breakfast Club and we got 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.319 a special guest in the building, the legendary Jasmine Guy. 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:14.040 Welcome back. 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:15.080 Good morning. 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:16.360 How you feeling. 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:17.600 I felt great. 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:23.279 I love doing your show the last time, and I 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:25.200 got a lot of positive feedback. 0:00:25.360 --> 0:00:27.160 I love you come on. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.720 It was a different kind of interview though than they 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.040 used to. My daddy was like, you were a little 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:39.600 too comfortable. You act like they were at your house. Champagne, right, yes, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:41.599 champagne whatever that was. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.600 I didn't even like it, and I was drinking that. 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.239 But my father said that you would put more in 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:49.760 when I was looking at Kadeen. 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:52.880 That's what he said. 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.280 He said, whenever you looked at Kadeen before, more in there. 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:00.720 So I'm I'm thinking, I'm just drinking one glass probably, 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:09.200 but I'm drinking anywhere. 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.560 It's something in the morning. Embarrassing, is that you talk 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.440 you just back there just laughing. 0:01:18.400 --> 0:01:21.560 No, No, it was good because you ask questions that 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:24.320 people don't usually ask. You know, we get the same 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:28.800 questions over and over, especially about a different world, and 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:33.880 I just like that it went into other areas of 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:39.320 my life and my career and his too, because anybody 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:42.480 can look at any interviews we've done and get those answers. 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.880 It's the same answer, you know what I mean? So 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:47.440 can we talk about something else? 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:53.360 You know, we bring it to another element that hasn't 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:54.680 been explored with us. 0:01:54.880 --> 0:01:56.640 And you've done so much more since since. 0:01:57.080 --> 0:02:02.080 Absolutely, like right now you want your first yearlations. 0:02:03.120 --> 0:02:06.520 She went for the Chronicles of Jessica Woos. Yes, that 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:07.279 was a trip. 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.920 So I was going to Mexico to hang out with 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.480 my girlfriends and I land and I get all these 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:20.320 checks from people saying congratulation on your Emmy nomination, and 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.280 I really thought people would messing with me. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.400 I didn't even call them back. I said whatever. 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:31.000 I wouldn't even And then when I realized I really 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:37.239 had been nominated, I thought it was for the show Harlem. Okay, okay, 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:42.160 Chronicles of Jessica Woo I had done. It was before COVID. 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.280 It was a long time ago and I only worked 0:02:45.320 --> 0:02:49.800 on it for a day. It was a very interesting 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:54.840 project to me because the production company was a couple, 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:59.480 a small black production company. The superhero in the in 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:05.839 the p had autism, but her powers that whatever put 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:10.239 her on the spectrum made her a superhero. Their daughter 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:14.359 had an autistic child anyway, So I said, well, I'll 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.400 do it because I know after this they're going to 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:17.359 need distribution. 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.080 And who knew that's what you know. 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:28.000 What I'm saying, my love for them and what I 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:31.119 know about you know, pitching ideas. You're gonna need a name. 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.000 I know, I've heard it all. And I said, well, 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.440 I'll be your name. This is gonna be good. And 0:03:36.520 --> 0:03:40.440 it was a short series, like a wepisode series. The 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:45.000 other Oscar nomination I got was also from an independent 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:49.240 black company and it was my nephew Emmett, and I 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.640 played em matills aren't on the night that he was 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.920 taken from their home, and I was like, oh shit, 0:03:57.120 --> 0:03:59.200 I do not want to go to Mississippi. 0:03:59.240 --> 0:04:00.160 And I'm telling you. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:04.160 We stayed right down the street from where he got abducted. 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.160 Missippi still got that same energy. 0:04:07.720 --> 0:04:11.040 Thank you. I was gonna stay. I felt ghosts. 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:16.440 Yeah you know, And I did it and they got 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:19.560 nominated for an Oscar night when the director called me. 0:04:19.640 --> 0:04:24.080 He was a graduate student from NYU Film School. His 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:29.400 mentors with Spike Lee and Casey Lemmon's right, beautiful brother, 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.280 and the and the crew and everybody. 0:04:31.680 --> 0:04:34.239 I had a great artistic experience. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.440 But when he told me we, you know, we got 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.120 nominated for an Oscar, I thought he was messing with me. 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.960 That's not a lot though, Like about how you know, 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.880 I guess black actors and actresses are conditioned in Hollywood 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.240 that when they get told that they're even nominated, they 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:52.120 don't believe it. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:55.280 Well, when you ignored long enough, you got the message. 0:04:56.120 --> 0:05:00.640 I got the message. If you're not nominating a differ world, 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:06.080 Debbie Allen, Susan fails our wardrobe department, any other actor 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:09.839 on that show. I stopped focusing on y'all giving me 0:05:09.960 --> 0:05:10.640 my props. 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:13.080 I know who gives me my props. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.719 And I told the actors, I said, we just gotta 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.599 be good, you know, forget all these accolades or whatever. 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:25.400 They obviously do you know how many times they said 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:28.440 to me, even on I think I did. Dennis Miller, 0:05:29.000 --> 0:05:33.680 remember Dennis Randa a talk show. He started with, so 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.719 how does it feel being between number one and three? 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:40.880 And I was stunned because I just sat down. 0:05:41.040 --> 0:05:43.160 You know, you come out all cute and whatever, and 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.919 I was like he said, that wasn't a good leader 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:47.719 in question, I said, no, it wasn't. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.000 You're talking about cognye and cheers. 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:54.440 Everybody said we were number two because we came between them, Okay. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.799 And that was the first question. That was the message. 0:05:57.880 --> 0:06:00.839 That was the message that we got this actors as 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.479 you know, performers, and we never got our props for 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.040 not not just the acting, but it was Debbie Allen, 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:11.520 Susan fails me. 0:06:11.800 --> 0:06:15.400 Three black women in charge of that show. You know 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:17.280 what I mean? We could have been on the. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.800 Cover of Essence, and I just knew who really saw 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:24.599 us and who really understood us. 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:25.800 Why was that work for? 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:29.760 That's the same white motherfuckers. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.800 Old up to day. 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:43.919 You came to the right shows. You can't say that word, so. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.400 You can go back here the same white motherfuckers make 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:48.080 sure you forget just. 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.640 The same world. Just look. 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:58.080 Okay, So Carcy Warner, our producers also produced a show 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:02.360 with Whoopy Goldberg called Bag That Cafe Grace under Fire 0:07:02.480 --> 0:07:05.600 in the Roseanne Show and the cos of the show, right, 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:07.880 so we're one of five. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.320 They never asked us to do anything. 0:07:11.680 --> 0:07:15.880 They asked Roseanne Barr to sing the national anthem in 0:07:15.920 --> 0:07:19.680 which she grabbed her crotch because she can't sing. But 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.560 we got five singers on our show that you could 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:27.440 have had, don me kree. You know, never when we 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:28.920 got offered. 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:34.760 Things that would have I don't know. I just got things. 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:37.880 We got things on our own, and I never felt 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:41.360 a part of that network. Then when I saw what 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:46.320 happened with Friends, I was like, Yo, that would have 0:07:46.400 --> 0:07:49.520 helped us. It would have helped us with work after 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:53.240 the show. It would have given us some props, you 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.600 know that we could have used for future projects. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:07:58.520 I pitched a lot. 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:01.239 I have my own production company after a Different World. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:06.000 All of my projects were rejected, but then I started 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:06.640 to see. 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:12.160 Them that was wow, which ones yeah that. 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.160 I had a TV idea about a young woman that 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:22.240 inherited a sweatshop in the garment district from her gay 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:26.200 friend that died of AIDS, and but she still saw 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:27.200 him as a ghost. 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.760 I had even talked to Rue Paul about being my ghost. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:31.120 You know. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.880 They was just everything was a reason not to do it. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:38.760 But then I would see a white girl do it. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:43.040 Then I had this idea about what was the name 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:46.880 of that spy show? It was a French movie, Independent movie, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:52.959 and oh, okay, So I thought this would be fierce 0:08:53.040 --> 0:08:57.600 well Robin Gibvens. So I wrote up a treatment for 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:02.960 a pilot version of it. No Robin Gibvens, but a 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:05.760 white American girl doing it. So I was like, well, 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:09.600 I know my ideas are valid, but I just started 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.640 divorcing myself like a bad relationship. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.880 Stop asking for what you know you're not gonna get. 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.439 I didn't have a parking space like Don Johnson after 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:21.400 Miami Vice. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:24.680 You know, he was the star of the number two 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:26.920 show on the network, one of the biggest shows on television. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.839 Producer on it too, right, no o oh, thoughts you 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:34.480 reduce on it? No, but even even still, a star 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.040 of that show can't have a parking spot. 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.240 I had a parking spot, but he had a production deals. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:43.000 When I'm saying after he did Miami Vice, he had 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:45.120 a production deal, you know. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.320 And I don't know. 0:09:49.400 --> 0:09:52.360 I just thought that we were we were ready and 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:56.320 well equipped to move on into other areas. I definitely 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.680 wanted to be a producer because I had met so 0:09:58.760 --> 0:10:02.720 many people on the different and I wanted to bring 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:07.160 this writer with this director, you know, And the ideas 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:13.200 that I had were not being done. The Dorothy Dandrews story. 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:17.839 I pitched that for years. I had to educate first, 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:25.479 who's the earthy dying dright? I told him it wasn't condescending. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.520 And I didn't want to say the black Marilyn Monroe 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.480 because that's all they understand is a black version of 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:35.320 what we already know. So I don't use that term 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:40.160 when I'm pitching. And the movie got done. It just 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:45.280 got done without me. And after a while, I said, Okay, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.360 I understand, you. 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.520 Know what I mean. It's like a bad relationship. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:54.959 After a while, you gotta understand, Okay, I ain't what 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:57.600 you want. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.920 This is, and this is and so is all of 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:05.280 this and other things. I'm sure as what leads up 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.400 to Uncensored. Jasmae God Like. 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.840 Yeah, you know what, I'm still like. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:14.600 I did uncensored because I did Intimate Portrait on lifetime. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:18.560 I did Unsung, but they were in different decades of 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.400 my life. I mean, Intimate Portrait must have been in 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:27.240 my forties and then fifties, and now I'm in my sixties. 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:31.240 And I said, I may have a different perspective on 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:36.840 my truth. Same things happen, but I feel differently about them. 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.760 I have a different perspective, and I'm not. I'm trying 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:43.680 not to be so precious about my private life because 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.120 I really do this. When people get like, you know, 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:52.120 that's that's mine. I feel like I do enough with 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:57.440 my work for the public. That is my gift to 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.800 the audience, That is my way of communicating. You don't 0:12:00.840 --> 0:12:04.600 need to know who I'm sleeping with their business, don't. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:05.480 Need to be in the street. 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.560 You from that era, though, Like that era was you 0:12:09.880 --> 0:12:13.439 didn't really see your favorite celebrity, favorite actress, favorite actor, 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:16.839 and when you did, everybody went bashit crazy because you 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.400 never did. Like our favorite celebrities growing up as kid, 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.080 we didn't know who they dated. We didn't know where 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:22.800 they went to eat, we didn't know where they lived, 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.320 We didn't know any of that. And that was part 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.560 of the mystique of them being a superstar, real celebrity. 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.360 But it's also private. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:37.960 I don't feel like I didn't understand why celebrities were 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:50.120 saying private things. When nobody even asked you that. 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:49.880 You'll make you talk. 0:12:51.440 --> 0:13:00.200 I'm like, why are you nobody asked? Nowadays, I so 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.120 with the oh, and I also get an Instagram. 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.360 I mean, I've had an account, but. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:11.040 My makeup artist said when he went on my social 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.120 media that it was vented. 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.800 Not the vwork that I had not post. 0:13:17.920 --> 0:13:21.079 I said, I don't know what to post. I don't 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:28.240 know what's interesting because work fulfill so many parts of me. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:32.160 If I'm not working, I really don't have nothing to say. 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:36.440 What I did today, I colored, I did crossword puzzles. 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.160 People are into that, They're into your life outside of 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:43.040 just acting into what does Jasmine guy do? What does 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:43.640 she enjoy? 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:47.800 What is she like? You know, because we know who 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:48.640 you are on. 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:52.680 Like a humerus, boring. 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.959 People want to see that. They want to understand that. 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:55.480 They want to see what your life like. If you 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.320 just sit outside and you you knit all day, what 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:58.880 are you knitting? 0:13:59.000 --> 0:14:00.800 Why? And to be honest, what calms you down? 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.720 Because maybe what calms you down helped calm me down. 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:06.320 Maybe something that you do can help guide me through 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.880 my life. So people are into what people. 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.760 Do, and now we need some boring shit because like 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.760 everybody's wilding out here I'm talking about So I'm interested 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:16.679 in what you be knitting. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:22.080 I want to see my next staff can. 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.000 No, but it's kind of like that. I like calm 0:14:27.440 --> 0:14:31.160 I love my friends. My favorite thing in the world 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:33.400 is when my friends come by my apartment. And I 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:37.720 live in Midtown in Atlanta, so I'm accessible because in 0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:41.120 New York I used to have an apartment on seventy 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.160 eighth Street between Columbus and Central Park. 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:45.880 Everybody come through there. 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.000 If you lived in Queens, if you lived in Jersey, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.840 you're gonna come by my and I love that, and 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.160 so that's one of my favorite things is having my 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:56.880 people over. 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.760 And I've been cooking to I've been watching TV. 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.080 People like to see what the judgmine got cooked. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:04.040 What's your favorite meal? 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.840 Well, I'm trying to make the perfect chicken wing for me. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:12.600 No, I've made them and make them every week, but 0:15:13.000 --> 0:15:17.240 for me, other people eat them and they're okay, but 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:19.680 I want a certain consistency. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:20.640 I think. 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.400 I'm I can't get a deep fire because of my apartment. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:26.280 I can't have it on the on the patio. So 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:31.280 I've tried all different kinds. They're good, and I've done 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:35.280 the marinading and everything. Also, I've learned meatballs. I got 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:41.000 a good meatball let people like and it's a it's 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:51.200 real import I'll make you some turkey Teresa no, Chriso 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:51.920 sport too. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:56.680 I make you some. But I gave a cheesecake. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.760 So I'm using my mother's cheesecake recipe and I'm just 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:03.960 doing them over and over until I get it. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:05.520 My daddy is my guinea pig. 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.400 He has to try out my food and give me notes, 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:11.000 tell me if it's dried, tell me if you know. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:16.080 And my friend Jamala loves my cheesecakes. So I made 0:16:16.200 --> 0:16:20.400 one for the house, gave it to her and I 0:16:20.480 --> 0:16:23.760 was like, you know, let me know how it is 0:16:23.880 --> 0:16:26.520 or whatever. She gave her mother one piece and she 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:31.800 ate the rest of it because she's had three whole 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:32.840 cheese cases. 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:35.640 Yes, I love anything. 0:16:35.960 --> 0:16:38.480 I'm like, okay, Jamala, let me tell you what's in this, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.040 because you kid. So she wrote a book about her daughter. 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.920 It's a children's book called Mommy, I Think I Have Diabetes. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:49.800 She found out her daughter as diabetes, but it was 0:16:49.880 --> 0:16:50.680 from her daughter. 0:16:51.640 --> 0:16:52.800 This was a truth story. 0:16:53.360 --> 0:16:57.480 She made a children's book, and I said, your second 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:01.000 book is going to be Mommy. I think you got 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:02.600 you beating. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:03.920 Whole cheesecakes right. 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:11.399 I'm glad you like them and whatnot, but you know 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:12.920 you can't beating the whole one. 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.520 Yeah, I gotta ask you know you mentioned earlier that 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:17.520 you know when you do these interviews, people ask the 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.840 same questions about a different world. Are you tired of 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.640 being of talking about a different world since you had 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.560 I mean that was thirty years ago, but. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:27.320 Then I sat seven thirty seven. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:27.640 Wow. 0:17:27.880 --> 0:17:30.040 But then I see you on the HBCU tours going 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.359 from school to school. I see you having those conversations. 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.720 Are you just done with talking about that part of 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:35.320 your life? 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.119 I'm not done with that part of my life because 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:42.320 people are exploring, They're asking me the same things. What's 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.960 your favorite episode? They want me to see the wedding show? 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:45.640 That wasn't my. 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:50.760 Favorite episode, that's your favorite episode. I love when the 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.159 kids ask questions. So we go to these schools. We 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.719 have a moderator this past when we just spell them 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:00.719 in Morehouse and Clark, we have seven of us. I 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.040 love that too. Usually it's no more than four of us. 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:10.960 And when the kids get to ask the questions, their. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.760 Questions are different. They're not asking those same things. 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:17.280 I mean, really, you could do your research and know 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:20.280 the answer already, of course, but the kids are like 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:22.920 when you were nineteen. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:25.080 Blah, blah blah. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:29.960 When you first left home, what did you think about 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:30.720 your character? 0:18:31.119 --> 0:18:34.479 I mean intelligence, especially them Spellman girls. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:40.360 First of all, they acted like we were rock stars. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.640 They were just open shame when we came out. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:52.200 Then one girl said Miss Charnell, Miss Charnell, I want 0:18:52.280 --> 0:18:58.240 to thank you for being a presence for dark skinned girls. 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:05.920 Miss Jasmine, thank you for showing me confidence. And Miss 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:09.560 cree thank you for being the odd ball. 0:19:11.560 --> 0:19:12.400 That was her. 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:17.480 There you go. Thank you. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:22.800 Yeah, she was saying, I see you and you helped 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:23.439 me see me. 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:27.760 And you don't know you're doing all that when you're 0:19:27.800 --> 0:19:30.080 just playing your role, you know, But. 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.639 I know Debbie knew. I knew Debbie knew what she 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:34.360 was doing when she hired. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.919 Korea and Sean. Now, that second season, it was very deliberate. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:42.160 I was just talking. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:49.960 About I was, yeah, what were you saying? We had 0:19:50.000 --> 0:19:53.000 a whole conversation about who was the most beautiful on 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.359 a different world, and you know, he turned into that. 0:19:55.440 --> 0:19:57.000 I was like, man, Kimberly Reeche was the one. 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.320 He was the one. 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:00.000 You think they should you. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.080 I think there should be another show or maybe they 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:04.560 should relaunch it. And the reason is, last time I 0:20:04.600 --> 0:20:07.639 tell you. The reason I went to college and HBCU 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:09.879 and Hampton was because I seen a different world and 0:20:09.920 --> 0:20:12.480 I wanted that experience coming from Queen's right, I was like, 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.360 I want that. I don't know if people see that anymore, 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:18.760 if they see what a college looks like in the 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:23.240 experience and not just you know, the partying, but real life, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:26.800 real situations and everything going on. I think that's missing. 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:28.480 It is not there. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:34.040 And I thought when we did, you know, because when 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:36.320 I did a Different World, we were coming off school 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:42.280 days and it was you know, months in between the projects, 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:44.439 so it felt like we're a part of a wave. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:49.800 I didn't know that it crested and was over because 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:55.600 Fox started with Rock Dutton Show, some bad show even 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.919 you know, before Martin, and once they got launched, they 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.000 dropped those black shit. Same with c W. You saw 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.920 what happened with the game. But I thought we were 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:10.280 part of a new, I don't know, a new entertainment 0:21:10.400 --> 0:21:12.359 phase for black people. 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:16.720 It wasn't renaissance, but it was over after. 0:21:16.560 --> 0:21:19.320 College we left, but they just snatched everybody off. They 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.399 couldn't wait to get our time slot. 0:21:22.320 --> 0:21:23.920 Yeah, I've had a lot of conversations about that. 0:21:24.000 --> 0:21:26.640 I feel like after the nineties it was an intentional 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.199 It was intentional and strategic by Hollywood to change the 0:21:30.240 --> 0:21:31.240 image of black people. 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:32.680 I really feel that way. 0:21:32.880 --> 0:21:34.840 We think so too. Charla made it. 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:37.159 Went from great scripted shows and people had jobs and 0:21:37.280 --> 0:21:39.880 caribs to reality television. 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:42.680 Wait, they don't have to pay nobody until you make 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:47.320 it big or whatever. And now even with Harlem, and 0:21:47.359 --> 0:21:50.879 I loved that show and I love doing it, and 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:53.800 I don't understand the streaming thing. Amazon had us for 0:21:53.880 --> 0:21:58.000 ten ten episodes of first season eight, the second season, 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:04.159 this season six. So what you're doing, I don't know. 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.920 We have to do twenty two episodes a season. What 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:12.880 you're doing is you can't give anybody long enough work, right, 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:16.880 So the writers on a series, they're given enough four 0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.280 or five months they're getting. 0:22:18.960 --> 0:22:25.080 Paid, but now six, that's two months working. 0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.040 I don't know, And I don't know why they're doing 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.800 it with Harlem because people like that show, you know 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:32.359 what I mean. 0:22:34.520 --> 0:22:36.560 And it shows Harlem in a beautiful way. 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:42.680 It's vibrant and alive, and it's not gray and boarded 0:22:42.800 --> 0:22:47.159 up like the Harms like you know, it ain't coulle 0:22:47.280 --> 0:22:51.240 high and cornbread. Earl and me, Harlem, it's the celebration. 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.960 So I don't know why they're not committing. I find 0:22:56.000 --> 0:22:59.720 it selfish that you don't give a show enough legs 0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:01.119 to succeed. 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.399 And let Tracy Oliver do what she do. 0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.560 I had so much influence, you know, Jamaine dup previous 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:13.359 said yesterday and on it. They did a Freaknik documentary, 0:23:13.560 --> 0:23:15.320 Oh have you ever been a Freaknick? 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:17.800