WEBVTT - What's with this "Internet of Things"? 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.800 Welcome to Stuff You Should Know from House Stuff Works 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:13.520 dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:18.600 and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant. Jerome's to my right, uh, 0:00:19.600 --> 0:00:22.360 and this is stuff you should There's probably some people going, 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:26.720 did they replaced Jerry with Jerome? Named Jerome? Yeah, that's 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:31.200 just the nickname we have for Jerry. Uh. It's a 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:35.519 it's an arcane reference to the librarian at the beginning 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:40.520 of Ghostbusters whose uncle thought he was sat Jerome. No, really, 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.480 that's what I've always been referencing. I thought we were 0:00:43.520 --> 0:00:46.159 on the same page about it. We also call her Jarre's. 0:00:47.320 --> 0:00:52.760 That's a reference to nothing, right, Jerry, all right, that's 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.640 a that was a great Jerry Chuck um chuck. Yes, 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:01.360 have you ever been on the Internet of Things? M Well, 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:06.640 you can't really be on the Internet of things. I 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:10.440 don't understand. Explain. Well, the Internet of Things, my friend, 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:15.320 is a really just a collection of interconnected devices to 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:21.679 make your life simpler and more and less private, pretty 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:27.600 much in front with potential complications, but more convenient. Allegedly, 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:30.480 there's a lot of people who also say this is 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:32.480 all just a bunch of navel gazing in a lot 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:35.760 of ways, you know, Like, do we really need these apps? 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:40.480 I ran across a a vape for smoking weed as 0:01:40.520 --> 0:01:44.160 they call it, that has an app. Uh, it's an 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:48.160 a vaping system for smoking. It's just a little pipe marijuana. 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:52.560 But but it's just a little pipe, and um, it 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:56.600 has an app that goes with it that remotely controls 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.680 it the heat settings and stuff. Oh does it like 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:03.800 things like you've smoked one ounce of weed this month? No, 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:09.080 which would be pretty intriguing. I guess that would be. Yeah, 0:02:09.280 --> 0:02:11.160 And that's the point. There's a lot of there's a 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:13.440 lot of stuff that you can point to and say, 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.919 this is pretty neat. This thing feeds my cat while 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:19.359 I spend twenties three hours a day at work. Yeah, 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.760 that's it's nice that I can keep this cat alive 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.359 that I have no connection with any longer because I'm 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:26.800 at work all the time. But this machine feeds it 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.359 because I can control it remotely with an app. Right. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:31.200 But if you have something tracking how much we do 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:33.400 you smoke? You're either smoking far too much or not 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:36.320 nearly enough, or you have too much money is another 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.600 way to put it. Yeah. Uh, you know what my 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.880 friend Clay. I don't know if you've met Clay, but 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:48.000 he told me something. The way, as far as being 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:51.280 concerned about security and privacy rights and things, is what 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:53.120 they do is they sell it to you first as 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:57.840 a convenience and then before you know it, you know, 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.560 dot dot dot Clay Clay never finished the sence he did, 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.040 but you know, I don't remember exactly he finished it. 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:09.240 Clay said this in Oh, yeah, I think i'd like 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:12.919 Clay like way before, like he was probably just talking 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:17.440 about geez, I don't even know, like a credit card 0:03:17.639 --> 0:03:20.840 or something, and and he was just like, just be aware, man. 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:22.080 He was like, they sell it to he is a 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.880 convenience before you know what. Everyone is doing it that way, 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:29.480 and it's fraught with complications, was essentially what he was saying. Yeah, 0:03:29.600 --> 0:03:32.520 I think that's very precient because that's exactly the point 0:03:32.560 --> 0:03:35.080 that we're at right now. And we'll talk a little more, 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.760 well a lot more, I'm sure, about security and privacy 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.200 and all that stuff, but ultimately it's like you said, 0:03:40.200 --> 0:03:42.840 the Internet of things. Is this A lot of other 0:03:42.880 --> 0:03:45.080 people call it the internet, Like this is just the 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.280 next wave of the Internet. This is where the Internet 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:51.040 is going but the I guess the best description of 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:58.000 it is it's a series of interconnected UM machines devices that, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.360 since the environment in a lot of k is, UM 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:03.840 can carry out some sort of function. Usually it is 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:08.720 a sensing function, and UM can communicate with central servers, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:11.440 usually in the cloud, via the Internet. It's about as 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:13.560 simple as that. Like, that's the Internet of things. Yeah, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.920 Like if you think, boy, this all sounds weird and 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.840 I don't use stuff like that, if you have anything 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:21.240 that has the word smart in front of it, then 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.040 you're probably using the Internet of things already, right if 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:29.400 you've got a smartphone that to a smart thermostat or 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:33.440 a smart smoke detector, or if you wear a exercise tracker. 0:04:34.000 --> 0:04:37.039 This that's the Internet of things right exactly. And the 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.279 there's a lot of obvious steps that are right there 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:43.480 on the horizon coming after this is like the idea 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.520 that UM your refrigerator will be able to be like, oh, 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:50.560 these guys are almost out of cash. You milk, I'll 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:54.080 contact Amazon and have it delivered in two hours. And 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:56.600 you're like, I don't drink cash, you milk anymore? Fridge, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.920 dupid fridge? How many times do I have to abuse 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.840 was you. But that's pretty neat. I mean I think 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:06.359 a lot of this. It's it's both good and a 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:09.359 little creepy. Like that'd be cool. If I showed up 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.280 at home one day and I was out of milk 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:14.880 and it was waiting on my doorstep, I of milk. 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.159 You wouldn't want waiting on your doorstep. O, cash your milk. 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.599 It doesn't matter. Oh you don't in refrigerate it no way, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.760 because it's not milk, it's cash your juice. Yes, it 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:25.640 is what they should call it. Um the I don't 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.120 disagree with you, right, Like, I'm sure it is pretty neat. 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:31.040 It's pretty cool, and in five years it'll be totally 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:36.200 second nature to us. Right. But the in my experience, 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.599 the more mechanized, the more automated, the more convenient and 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:45.240 I just made air quotes, life gets, the more difficult 0:05:45.279 --> 0:05:47.919 it is to keep up with, the less simple it is, 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:52.240 and the more horrific it is when something breaks down. Interesting, 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:56.640 So in within simplification, you think it becomes more complicated, Yeah, 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.560 because you you rely on machines that can break, and 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:02.680 when they break, you're like, I forgot how to order 0:06:02.760 --> 0:06:05.840 cash your milk? Where you get that stuff. So you 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:09.680 think we're headed for idiocracy, uh, to an extent, But 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:11.479 I think it's more. It's more than that. In the 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:16.040 short term. I think it's just that it's it's so 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:19.560 much easier to walk to a grocery store and buy 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:21.839 cash you milk, and walk back home than it is 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:25.120 to um ensure that your fridge has all of the 0:06:25.279 --> 0:06:29.760 updated firmware and make sure that it's it's ordering correctly 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.320 from Amazon, and to make sure Amazon gets there. And 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:34.560 you're just relying on all these other components rather than 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.840 your own two feet and the idea that the people 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.520 at the store are gonna have your cash you milk. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:41.919 I see that in a way, but I also disagree 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:44.839 in a way. Like, for instance, I have I have 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:46.479 a few things in my life that I've set to 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:52.880 auto order, like air filters, baby formula, stuff that water 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:55.479 my fridge water filter like this stuff gets shipped to 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.560 me automatically, and it's wonderful because I don't have to 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.920 think about it at all. So does your fridge order 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:04.200 itself or you just put a time around like Amazon, 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.279 it's on a timer to these you know, not even Amazon, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:10.680 like you know, the fridge filter company. You can just 0:07:10.720 --> 0:07:13.560 set it to auto deliver like every sixty days. So 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.280 it's nice because I don't have to think about it. 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.440 The only thing is missing is the camera or the 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:21.600 device itself being hooked up telling the company, Hey, my 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:25.720 air filter is over or you know, spent um, which 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.320 would be pretty awesome to tell you the truth, if 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.560 your air filter could be like it's actually we're at 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.400 we need to go ahead and order. However, you know what, 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.680 that's a little I never really thought about that being 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:40.880 a little dicey, because you know, you need a new 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:44.200 water filter, trust me, Like really, but what if you 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.160 could get another month out of this one that you're 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.280 throwing away and you're ordering early, then they can sell 0:07:49.320 --> 0:07:53.240 another to a year to you exactly. That's what I 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.360 assume when you're trusting them, like when they're like you 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:57.680 have to change your oil every three thousand miles or 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.800 or yeah, you need to change your water filter every 0:07:59.800 --> 0:08:02.360 three months, Like I never changed my oil. Yeah, I forget. 0:08:02.400 --> 0:08:07.280 That's for chumps. It's a scam. Uh anyway, all right, 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:11.640 so that's a little personal overview. The phrase Internet of 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.280 Things is actually coined, they think, in the late nineties 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:18.600 by guy named Kevin Ashton, who worked for PNG. I'll 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:20.560 bet he has a T shirt that says I coined 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.240 the term Internet of things. Well just so he can 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.680 invite people to punch him in the face or give 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.680 him a hug, depending on who you are. He worked 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:32.400 for Procter and Gamble, and he had a presentation, Uh, 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:34.480 they're at work where he said, you know what we 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.360 should do. We should put um radio frequency ID tags 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.000 r F I D s on lipstick in the store, 0:08:41.679 --> 0:08:44.040 so and have that hooked up to a machine where 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.560 we could automatically send that information and say, hey, the 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:50.000 store is running low on lipstick, get a shipment over there. 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:54.000 And he coined the term Internet of things supposedly in 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:57.600 that meeting, and apparently though at this time, but prior 0:08:57.640 --> 0:08:59.720 to that, the nineties were a big time for something 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.760 called ubiquitous computing, which is the basically the predecessor to 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.960 the idea of the Internet of things, where like computers 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.040 would just be integrated into our lives totally and completely um, 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.760 and the Internet of things is in that vein a 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.360 little similarly. But from stuff I've read, there's a lot 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:20.280 of people were like, I didn't quite feel fulfill the 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.240 promise of ubiquitous computing. This is just kind of like 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.400 life slightly more convenient now thanks to this, But that 0:09:27.640 --> 0:09:31.960 that his original idea, Kevin Ashton's, makes total and complete sense, 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.960 you know, like the you could how many sales do 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.160 you miss when your lipstick thing is empty until you 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:40.880 get you find out it's empty, and then get to 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.240 refill it, Like if your lipstick the last one can 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:45.960 be like, hey, I'm the last one here, you guys, 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:50.080 better sense and replacements. It's great. That makes perfect, total sense, 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.240 and that was ultimately the original basis of the Internet 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:58.199 of Things. It's taking um dumb things and making them, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.200 like you said, smart, by give then the ability to 0:10:01.400 --> 0:10:06.680 sense their surroundings and communicate that data to a central 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:10.240 server where that's analyzed and then the proper people are alerted. Yeah, 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:12.480 and here's the thing that I also never considered is 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:16.320 they must have discovered that there was a need for that. 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:19.400 And the only need I can imagine would be that 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.240 the employees were so bad at realizing that they were 0:10:23.320 --> 0:10:26.120 running out of stock that they would go several days 0:10:26.240 --> 0:10:29.840 without having lipstick on hand. So they were like, these 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:33.480 people can't even do that. Well, what if let's say 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.040 that you have a person whose job it is to 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:41.079 restock lipstick, right, and they go one week and there's 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.400 like five million tubes of orange, so much orange, they 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.280 just take some handful and throw throw it away just 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:49.120 because they don't want their bosses to feel bad about 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.720 the orange lipstick that's not being sold. Tubes of orange 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:55.040 come back right the next week and it's all gone 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:58.040 sold out. And then it's erratic like that, you've got 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:02.440 an employee you're sending there, Um that's just hit or miss, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.240 whether you just wasted a bunch of gas in the 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:08.640 employees time, rather than being alerted like now you guys 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.959 can come before it's too late. Sure, that's the thing 0:11:12.000 --> 0:11:15.599 that makes the most sense to me. Kevin Ashton genius. 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:18.280 Maybe so I meant to look him up to see 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.480 what he was doing these days, if he was just 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:23.320 wearing the T shirt or he might be a professional 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:28.800 term coiner, you know, haven't worked out quite as well 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:31.520 to sit back in the fishnet of the future. Yeah, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.960 that that was that kind of caught on a little 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:37.359 bit early in the two thousand's, but then it just yeah, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:44.520 it went the way the dodo, which was coined by Yeah, 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:48.800 that's been around for a while. It's the Dodo. Um, 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.760 the Dodo died, all right, So let's talk about a 0:11:52.800 --> 0:11:55.439 little bit what you What you've got essentially is a 0:11:55.480 --> 0:11:58.760 is a step by step system that many times starts 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:03.360 with a smartphone this connected to the internet. Uh. Then 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:05.240 you have other pieces of hardware in your home that 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.040 are also connected to the internet, and there is most 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.520 likely an app for that hardware on your smartphone, and 0:12:11.559 --> 0:12:14.640 then that's usually sent out to the cloud. It's not 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:19.160 some guy or some ladies sitting in a room in 0:12:19.960 --> 0:12:24.640 looking at your data. It's eight thousand steps today, just 0:12:24.640 --> 0:12:28.120 following behind you, counting count No, they're looking at the 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.680 data from your wearable. Yeah, so just in your guest room. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.840 That become a neat I don't know. No, it depends 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.520 on whether they like get along with you, or if 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:43.920 they drink your cash you milk. Well, Todd drinks all 0:12:43.960 --> 0:12:46.160 the cash you milk. So that's why Todd's not wanted. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:49.480 He's being counterproductive. So then it usually goes to the cloud, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.240 which is where we send our data these days, where 0:12:52.280 --> 0:12:54.800 it's analyzed, and that's a big that's a big part 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.280 of the Internet things too, Chuck, is the cloud, because 0:12:57.520 --> 0:13:00.000 that means that you don't have to analyze the day 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:03.240 in the little machine, in the little censer. All it 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:06.160 has to do is sense stuff and create that data 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.480 and then send it to the cloud, where you're basically 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.199 outsourcing all the analysis. That takes a lot more computing power. 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:14.400 So that was a big development that there's such a 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.360 thing as the cloud now. Yeah, that's it kind of 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.439 puts the smart into it all. Um. And if you're 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:22.679 wondering how big it is right now, that depends on 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.800 who you ask, but some say between fifteen and twenty 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.360 five billion devices already that are connected, and uh, some 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:36.280 people say by twenty it could be anywhere from fifty 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:40.800 billion to a trillion devices connected, depending on how much 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.199 it catches on, you know, how every day it becomes. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.520 But it's at it that way for sure. I don't 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:48.120 think there's any going back from this. I think they're 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:53.439 going to stick a some sort of um computing hardware 0:13:53.800 --> 0:14:00.679 that taps into the Internet on everything everything, okay, And 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:04.439 and it doesn't necessarily have to be a smart thermostat, 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:07.520 like they have devices now that you can tag to 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:12.000 everyday items to keep up with things. Yeah, or let's 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.720 say cameras that Let's say you have a security system 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.520 at your house that you can view from your smartphone 0:14:18.520 --> 0:14:21.440 from anywhere in the world, and maybe it automatically calls 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:26.120 the police. That's the Internet of things, right you know. Yeah, 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:28.160 I mean there's a lot of great applications for it. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.160 And again, like this is just we're in the the 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:36.040 nascent period of of this, like the stuff that's like, wow, 0:14:36.120 --> 0:14:40.440 holy cow, I have a smart doorbell. That's amazing and 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:44.120 it's it's awesome and it works really well. But there's 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:49.200 you can't you basically can't apply your imagination to predict 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:52.320 what's even gonna be fifteen years into the future as 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.080 far as the Internet of things goes, Like just the 0:14:55.080 --> 0:15:00.240 the change in uh, how we deal in inner act 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:05.360 with the Internet and our surroundings is it's it's inestimable. Yeah, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:07.800 who wrote this one was a strickling No, this was 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.640 Bernadette Johnson. Well, she wrote a line in here that 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.640 I'm just gonna read because it really kind of hit 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:16.720 home for me. She said, we've essentially given common physical 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:22.280 objects both computing power and senses, and that explains it 0:15:22.320 --> 0:15:24.280 to a t. Yeah, you did a good job with this. 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.080 There's a lot of information, Like you could do anything. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.960 You can make anything smart that you wanted. You could 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:35.200 have a smart can't open her smart tuba lipstick, yeah exactly, 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.280 or smart tube of toothpaste that you know when you're 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:41.600 squeezing the end and your how do you get all 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.160 the toothpaste out? What's your method? Oh? You know they 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:48.320 make a little um remover. I can't remember what it's called. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:50.960 You gotta you got a machine? No, well, yeah, I 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:54.400 have a smart toothpaste remover. It's like a little it 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:56.960 looks like a remember those candy lips, the wax lips. 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.600 It looks like those, but it's pocket right now. Okay, 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.720 so pull us out. Um. If you had a like 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.000 a slit in the lips, you put the tube of 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:09.480 toothpaste in the like the end of it in there, 0:16:09.560 --> 0:16:11.600 and you just kind of tilted at an angle a 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:13.880 little bit and puts pressure and you just slide it 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:17.240 along and it pushes it to the to the front. Yeah. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.440 I use my toothbrush to do the same thing. How 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:24.320 Oh you slide the tooth trust the toothpaste tube on 0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:27.720 the sink and just you know, use it as a 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:33.840 uh flattener. Squeezer, squeezer. Yeah, that's a good one. Interesting. Yeah, 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.760 I never realized you just hacked your tooth brush. What 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:39.640 do you? Uh, what do you pay for something like 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:42.880 what you got? Like a dollar something like that? Yeah, yeah, nothing, 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:45.240 nothing too much. Well, boy, I guess I got away 0:16:45.280 --> 0:16:49.920 with it. See now, if if I if there was 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:53.640 some sort of computing chip on this thing that calculated 0:16:53.680 --> 0:16:56.160 how much toothpaste was left and sent that information to 0:16:56.200 --> 0:17:00.480 my app, that would be a smart toothpaste squeezer, that's it. 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.640 Or you come home and open the mailbox and there's 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:04.920 a new toothpaste and you're like, I didn't even know 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.760 I was out because I haven't been using my my 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:12.720 lippy device. You know, Yeah, I forgot to brush my 0:17:12.760 --> 0:17:15.680 teeth for three weeks. Let's take a break. Yeah, it's 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:17.679 getting a little silly. Yeah, And you go brush your 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:20.480 teeth and we'll meet back in here. And how long 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:22.520 does it take you to brush your teeth? Like? Seven? 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:24.760 Eight seconds? Great, we'll be back here in eight seconds. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.680 By the way, seven or eight seconds is not nearly 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.160 enough time. I just know. That's washing your hands. You're 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:50.440 supposed to do the alphabet whie for brushing your teeth. 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.159 Either for washing your hands, or brushing your teeth, you know, 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.119 if you're supposed to do like three minutes for brushing 0:17:56.160 --> 0:18:01.200 your teeth. I've got the we won't name check here 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:06.080 and buzz market, but I've got a mechanical toothbrush and 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.919 it um electric toothbrush and you know it has it 0:18:10.000 --> 0:18:13.080 beeps and you divide your mouth up into four zones. 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:14.800 Oh yeah, I think I have the same top left, 0:18:14.800 --> 0:18:16.639 top right, bottom left, bottom right, and it just beeps 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.920 and deep like vibrates. Oh really, it's already vibrating though. 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.920 How can you tell the difference? It changes its vibration really? Yeah, 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:27.520 how weird. I guess maybe it's a pause in the 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:29.639 vibration that I think about it. I just assigned to 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:32.400 a vibration. Yeah, the same deal though. Yeah. And they 0:18:32.520 --> 0:18:35.320 again there's smart toothbrushes that can keep up with how 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.800 much you brush your teeth and that kind of stuff. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:42.680 Are they really uh? Their WiFi connected toothbrushes that connect 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.800 to an app. You know, my brother in law, the 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.919 Marine Corps general um he. I used to laugh at 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.200 him because I was in his bathroom once and opened 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.200 the drawer and he had a log of his razor 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:59.800 and shaving log and like how many times he'd used 0:18:59.800 --> 0:19:04.240 the raser And it's basically pre smart Internet of Things 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:06.960 smart razor, because I'm sure they have those now to 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.720 alert you, like when you should change your your razor blades. 0:19:10.880 --> 0:19:12.399 I haven't heard of that one, but I wouldn't be 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.440 surprised if there was. I just thought it was very funny. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.080 I mean, I said a lot about who he was. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:19.520 Oh yeah, you know, and no surprised that he's a 0:19:19.560 --> 0:19:21.600 Marine Corps general. If he's keeping up with stuff like that, 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.120 I can I can see him, like, um, I met him. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.359 He's a great guy, just sitting at the edge of 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:29.880 the bed right before bedtime, petting his cat fifty times, 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:31.440 no more, no less, and than putting it in the 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.200 foot locker at the end of the bed for the night, 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:35.600 and like tucking himself in. Yeah, he's the one that 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.680 trere me on to peeing sitting down too. So oh yeah, 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.280 a great debt to him. Nice hats off. Is he 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:43.960 coming to our DC show again? Uh? No, man, they're 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:47.520 transferred over overseas for the first time ever. Are they 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.639 coming to our UK shows? No, not that overseas. I'm 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:55.920 not allowed to say where he's going. Okay, that's cool. 0:19:56.000 --> 0:19:58.359 I'm with you top secret, huh. I can tell you 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:01.520 off the airs. That says, I see what you're saying. 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.280 It probably doesn't matter. I'm just respecting this privacy by 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.160 telling everyone that he taught me to be sitting down. 0:20:07.600 --> 0:20:10.160 You really got starting that national combo? Why don't you 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.359 I just think it's important, you know, I need to 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.600 be talking about it. No mistakes is the motto of 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:21.920 the tagline. No no drips, no runs, no errors. Nice. Um, 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:23.960 did we just take a break and we came back 0:20:24.000 --> 0:20:29.320 with this garbage? Maybe we should start over again, Jerry, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:35.160 all right, well let's talk about the chech how about that? Yeah, 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:41.200 telemetry nothing new, No apparently, this says. And again, the whole, 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.960 the whole basis of the Internet of Things is what's 0:20:43.960 --> 0:20:48.359 called machine to machine um communication. Right, you have like 0:20:48.400 --> 0:20:51.000 your smart lipstick just sitting there sensing that it's the 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:53.600 last tube it can sense all day long, and it's 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:57.720 still a dumb stick, a lips lipstick. It can't tell you, 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.320 right unless it can communicate that data to the people 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:03.679 who need to know that stuff. And they do that 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:06.960 through machine to machine communication. And like you're saying, telemetry 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.640 was the original version of that, which apparently dates back 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:14.160 the Yeah, it's comes from the Greek um tele means 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:20.240 remote and uh metro metron means measure. And that's where 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:23.840 you're basically in a remote area, you would measure something 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:29.120 and then send that uh via back then telephone line, right, 0:21:29.200 --> 0:21:33.800 like an Arctic station or something set up to watch animals, 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:36.240 like deep in the jungle or something. It's like, there's 0:21:36.240 --> 0:21:38.080 a world the beast, don't we go there's a wild beast. 0:21:38.480 --> 0:21:42.760 That was early telemetry exactly. And that's essentially just an 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.879 extension of what we're doing now. Yeah, now it's an 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:48.600 extension of from then. Well we've we've built upon that. 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.840 I mean think like the first dial up stuff that 0:21:50.880 --> 0:21:53.879 was I would guess probably telemetry, you know, the series 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.879 of like the and all that. I mean, you're sending 0:21:57.880 --> 0:22:01.120 signals from one machine to another saying and let me online. 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.880 Yeah it's your problem. Why are you so slow? Uh? 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:08.200 And what's allowed the Internet of Things to take root? Um? 0:22:08.320 --> 0:22:12.320 Very simply it gets more complicated, but the invention of 0:22:12.359 --> 0:22:16.879 the Worldwide Web by Mr Tim Burners Lee off Man 0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:23.919 h Then the ubiquitous nous is that a word? Ubiquity ubiquitousness, 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:29.040 ubiquitousness of WiFi. Although yeah, I think ubiquity is yeah, 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:34.200 is that right? Yeah, WiFi, I do the porky pig 0:22:34.200 --> 0:22:39.280 thing where I just skip it. Um, the the widespread 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:42.280 nature of WiFi all of a sudden, where um, you 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.600 don't have to be physically connected to something that really 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:49.080 advanced things speed. And then like we already said, the cloud, Yeah, 0:22:49.160 --> 0:22:51.080 I think the cloud is the thing that really kind 0:22:51.119 --> 0:22:54.400 of allows it more than anything else. It's just if 0:22:54.440 --> 0:22:58.040 you had to have that kind of computing power right 0:22:58.080 --> 0:23:01.080 there in the sensor, then it's just would be very limiting. 0:23:01.240 --> 0:23:03.440 You couldn't put it on just anything, and it would 0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.840 be a lot more expensive. To these things that they're 0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:10.239 adding to to you know, normal inanimate objects to make 0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:15.400 them smart are very cheap to produce. They just need 0:23:15.440 --> 0:23:19.600 a few components. They need computing hardware, they need sensors, 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:22.760 they need communication hardware, and then they need some sort 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:24.960 of power source, which you can get that from the 0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:28.040 machine itself that you plug in, right, So like if 0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:30.560 it's a smart coffee maker, it can draw power from 0:23:30.600 --> 0:23:33.520 the the plug that the coffee maker runs off of. 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.560 And then it needs Internet access, which if you have 0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:38.679 a smart coffee maker, but you don't have internet at 0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.719 your house. You made a poorer decision in your coffee 0:23:41.720 --> 0:23:45.000 maker purchase. Like pretty much everything comes with internet access 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:48.920 at this point right in the Western world. Sure. Uh. 0:23:48.960 --> 0:23:50.879 The other thing we've kind of been talking about is 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.719 UM your own devices in your home. But it just 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:57.200 you don't have to be just hooked up to things 0:23:57.240 --> 0:23:59.439 that you own. You can hook up to other like 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:04.639 SIST devices. Like let's say your town has UM devices 0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:08.119 that monitor traffic conditions, you can tap into that. I 0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:10.560 guess that's what WAYS is, right or is that all 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.159 self reported? I looked up and UM, it seems to 0:24:13.160 --> 0:24:16.280 be all self reported. But there's something called like WAYS 0:24:16.400 --> 0:24:19.560 Citizen or something like that, and it it appears to 0:24:19.600 --> 0:24:22.440 be WAYS trying to get smart cities to let them 0:24:22.440 --> 0:24:26.080 tap into their information like traffic cams and stuff like that. Yeah, 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:28.840 and apparently that's already a thing like if you just 0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.720 leave your phone open or like the Bluetooth on, if 0:24:31.720 --> 0:24:35.440 you're driving through a smart city with UM traffic sensors, 0:24:35.760 --> 0:24:39.560 it basically uses your phone's information while you're in traffic 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:42.919 as real time traffic information because your phone has something 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:46.000 like a an accelerometer in it, so it knows how 0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:49.320 fast you're moving at any given point. And if it's 0:24:49.800 --> 0:24:52.960 giving that information to just a panel on the side 0:24:52.960 --> 0:24:55.160 of the street, that panel can put all that info 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.359 together and be like oh, peach trees like super backed 0:24:58.440 --> 0:25:01.080 up right now, and then if Ways can get their 0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:03.919 hands on their information, they can send that out to 0:25:04.000 --> 0:25:06.719 their users. But for right now. Ways, as far as 0:25:06.760 --> 0:25:10.040 I know, is is it's a it's a social apps. 0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:14.720 It relies on its users to update conditions, which, by 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.480 the way, Ways I think might be the best app 0:25:17.520 --> 0:25:20.080 of the twenty one century so far. I didn't start 0:25:20.200 --> 0:25:22.000 using it. I had it on my phone for a while, 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:27.400 but I never used it, but have a little bit recently. Um, 0:25:27.840 --> 0:25:29.920 I don't I don't like interact with it much. I'll 0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.040 just set it to tell me where to go, like 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.120 I don't report accidents and things. Does that mean I'm 0:25:35.119 --> 0:25:38.840 a bad user? I mean you're you're you're using like 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:42.119 the efforts of other people without contributing. I mean the 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.280 point is is for everybody to contribute. It makes it 0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.480 more robust. But it's not like you're going to show 0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:50.560 up at your house, you pull over on the highway, 0:25:50.600 --> 0:25:55.480 that's That's probably the one big thing about about ways 0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:57.480 is that like you're not supposed to be using it 0:25:57.560 --> 0:25:59.920 in that situation. If you're the driver, you're supposed to 0:25:59.920 --> 0:26:02.040 be the passengers. But they're also kind of telling you 0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:04.240 to you know well, I mean there's a thing that 0:26:04.440 --> 0:26:07.200 when when it comes up or when you try to start, 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:10.719 it'll say like are you a passenger? And they just 0:26:10.760 --> 0:26:13.800 assume that you're going to just be truthful about that. Yeah. 0:26:13.840 --> 0:26:15.640 That's like the website to say, like, tell us your 0:26:15.640 --> 0:26:18.480 twenty one by clicking here exactly and then welcome to 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.280 the party. Yeah, and the twenty year olds like, no, shoot, 0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:24.080 you can click on this close two weeks, I'll be 0:26:24.080 --> 0:26:28.680 back in two weeks um. The other thing I was 0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.400 wondering too, like what if the lipstick as an example, 0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:36.520 what if they that's open uh to where you can 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:38.159 look at your app and say like, well, no, this 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:41.000 store is out of lipstick. That'd be cool, you know. Yeah, 0:26:41.160 --> 0:26:42.480 I said, of having to call and talk to a 0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:45.040 dumb person, I know it's awful wait for them to 0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:47.600 go look with their eyes. Well, but you know, I 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.399 get it though, because now the days you call and 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:50.760 say hey, I want to check and see if you 0:26:50.760 --> 0:26:54.040 have something stock, and you usually met with all right, 0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.119 hold on and not like sure, I'd be happy to 0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:02.320 go check before user. They're like, oh man, I can't 0:27:02.359 --> 0:27:05.199 wait to get outsourced to a robot, right. But then 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:07.040 you get to the store and they don't have it 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.720 in stock, and you're like, I called and asked someone. 0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:12.520 They're like, who'd you talk to? There's no one by 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:14.880 their name of works here. Sorry, and he's like got 0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:18.840 covering his name back with his hand. Um and Chuck. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.960 Speaking of smart cities, you know, traffic info is a 0:27:22.960 --> 0:27:28.240 big one, so was um smart traffic lights, which I 0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.280 wish they's been around starting when I was sixteen, because 0:27:32.359 --> 0:27:34.320 there is there are a few things to me that 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.359 are more of a waste of time than sitting in 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:39.520 a traffic light when there's no traffic going through Decatur 0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:42.119 where near a while it is famous for its lights 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:45.400 not being timed or trip tripped or whatever, and it's 0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.720 there forever it's horrible. Yeah, Decator does have really long 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:51.880 lights and yeah, they don't even have the We found 0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.280 out it's either a metal detector or a weight sensor 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.520 that where there's like the lines that where they obviously 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:01.680 cut out the the um a hard top in front 0:28:01.680 --> 0:28:04.760 of you in front of a light. If you don't 0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.480 even have that, that's a problem. But even those ones 0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:11.240 that have sensors don't always like to it immediately. This 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:13.800 should be like, it should be a lot smarter than that. 0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.000 And that's part of what the revenure engine. You're that 0:28:16.040 --> 0:28:19.000 guy have to stop right? You know Decatur's motto when 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:22.880 you drive in it says Decator, what's your hurry? Really? No, 0:28:23.320 --> 0:28:26.440 I can kind of see it actually slow down, Decatur. 0:28:26.560 --> 0:28:29.440 What's with all the baby strollers to be another one 0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:34.360 road baby strollers? Why they have this big off road 0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:37.320 like jogging baby stroller with the huge tires and yet 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:41.320 one of those Yeah, but that's uh, well no, I 0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.040 mean that I don't really go off road, But that's 0:28:43.040 --> 0:28:47.520 because the sidewalks in my neighborhood are awful there. They suck. 0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.440 Ye is off road might as well be like tree 0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:52.160 roots growing up everywhere, that kind of thing. Yeah, they're like, O, 0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.120 this tree's never gonna grow, Let's put a sidewalk up 0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.960 right next to it. Um, well, you're talking about smart cities. 0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.840 The other cool thing part actually that they could do 0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:05.680 They might actually be doing this is infrastructure, like embedding 0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.160 sensors into sidewalks. Well, that's a good example. Like a 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:14.000 sidewalk that becomes cracked or broken, or bridge that becomes 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.880 weak in one point, they can send the signal and say, hey, 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:20.000 maybe you should come check out this bridge, and then 0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:24.520 eventually they will send a signal to the robots sidewalk crew, 0:29:25.200 --> 0:29:27.760 who will come out and prepare the sidewalk and everything 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:30.720 will look perfect all the time thanks to the robots. Right, 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:33.680 but there's forty robots and like thirty of them are 0:29:33.720 --> 0:29:38.360 just standing around working And where did they learn to 0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:42.880 smoke cigarettes? It seems weird to get so rubbed at 0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:45.840 cigarette breakes because I didn't smoke. Yeah, and I was 0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.520 always like, you know, I'm just gonna go stand outside 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:51.400 and the boss will be like, you can't do that. Yeah, 0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:53.760 I mean you could take a break, but cigarette brakes 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.680 weren't even real breaks. Someone's just like a new smoke, 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.520 but you can never go you know, I'm just gonna 0:29:57.520 --> 0:30:00.200 go stand outside for five minutes. Like you have to 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:03.200 be killing yourself to make that allowed. Yeah. No, I 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:05.440 that dawned on me when I was smoker, to like 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.160 that's when I was young and like, uh, you know, 0:30:08.280 --> 0:30:12.920 I was more angry back then about justice. Yeah. So again, 0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.840 we can sit here basically all day and talk about 0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.800 you know, devices and applications for this kind of thing. 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.000 But there's some hurdles that are coming up that need 0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:25.840 to be addressed, um pretty soon, and we'll talk about 0:30:25.880 --> 0:30:45.120 those right after this. Alright, chuckers, we're back hurdles. So 0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:49.760 right now, there's some immediate hurdles, including the idea that 0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:56.560 a lot of smart technology operates on using totally different languages, 0:30:56.640 --> 0:31:00.320 different protocols, different everything, um, so that if you have 0:31:00.360 --> 0:31:03.400 a house full of different smart gadgets, you probably have 0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:05.960 an app for every single one of them, rather than 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:10.120 one integrated gap or app. And that's that's a it's 0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.480 not a hurdle, like you can have that many apps, 0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.080 but the idea of it being seamlessly integrated into just 0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.800 one part of your phone would be great. And if 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.960 they could talk to one another without you having to 0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:28.200 control it. You know, like you're, um, you're the light 0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:32.800 sensor on your light shade notices that the sun story 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:35.000 and you go down, so it opens your blinds a 0:31:35.000 --> 0:31:38.680 little bit, right, and when that happens that you're you're smart. 0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.160 Candle up slicer knows that you like a slice the 0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:44.120 candle up before dinner, so it slices up the candle up. 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.520 And they're all talking to one another. So it's not 0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:48.880 like everything's on a timer and things happen at once. 0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.280 It's happening because one thing is sensing this and it's 0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:54.720 relaying that information to the other devices in your house 0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:58.280 is as well, that's not happening right now. Yeah, what 0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:04.200 I need is I need between seven and nine am. 0:32:04.280 --> 0:32:09.080 I need my toilet, toilet to flush about every eight minutes. Yeah, 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:13.720 man alive. It would be my smart house. Or as 0:32:13.800 --> 0:32:17.040 soon as the coffee starts brewing seven minutes later, the 0:32:17.040 --> 0:32:20.360 toilet flushes. That happens. See, coffee is good for that. 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.440 It's great for that. But that's another thing that's coming 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.560 very soon too. Smart toilets. I can tell you, like, 0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:27.760 you've got a lot of Billy Rubens in here, Yeah, 0:32:27.880 --> 0:32:31.120 what's up with that? It'll say, what's up with that? 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:34.640 Uh So, basically, what you're talking about is systems that 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.680 aren't integrated because it's a bunch of different companies with 0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:40.600 all their own devices. But there are companies trying to 0:32:40.640 --> 0:32:46.720 come together to um join up with open source platforms uh, 0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:49.400 and one of them is created by Qualcom called the 0:32:49.480 --> 0:32:54.920 All Scene Alliance, which is when like it sounds something 0:32:54.960 --> 0:32:58.760 like from a future horror movie, sounds really creepy, the 0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:02.200 All Scene Alliance or a new speak like we might 0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.160 as you might as well just say, like, we want 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.160 a camera in every room of your home so we 0:33:07.200 --> 0:33:08.600 can all just talk to each other and make your 0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:15.120 life simpler, just relax, laid back. Apple's Home Kit always 0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:18.160 make it sound cute and not creepy, and it's probably 0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.400 creepier than the All Seeing the Lions. Yeah, a bunch 0:33:21.400 --> 0:33:24.280 of people have one. Google, as M, Samsung, there's one 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.000 called everything That's missing a couple of vowels. Wink is 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:29.840 a big one. Um, it's a big one right now. 0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:32.800 It controls some stuff like I think Phillips lights, and 0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.240 it works with Nest maybe or something like that. It 0:33:35.280 --> 0:33:37.720 does like two things, so it's like cutting manage right now. 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:41.200 But um, as the author of this article, Bernadett Johnson 0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:44.640 puts out, none are all encompassing, which I saw that 0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.800 and I was like, Mitch Hedberg would have like that sentence, 0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.840 none are all encompassing. Yeah, he said he was like 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:53.320 trying new words and um rather than like totally he 0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:56.000 said he was eating totally too much. They'd be like 0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.560 Mitch to you like s'mores, and'd be like all encompassingly. 0:34:02.080 --> 0:34:05.000 So another hurdle, UM that we are already getting around 0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:09.040 was um. Back in the nineties, we started to realize 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:12.640 we were running out of IP addresses. The standard IP 0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:17.320 address was the UH, well it still is in some ways, 0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:21.480 the I p V four. Yes, I p V four, 0:34:21.920 --> 0:34:24.080 And in the nineties they got smart. It wasn't like 0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:27.360 the Y two K bug. We're like, oh my gosh, 0:34:27.520 --> 0:34:30.520 things are going to be different in a month. Uh. 0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:32.839 They got on this a while ago and created the 0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:40.839 I p v six and started UH basically created uh 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:46.279 potentially what's the number, an undisillion number of at three 0:34:46.800 --> 0:34:52.520 forty undisillian addresses that is one with thirty six zeros 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:57.239 behind it and enough to give uh IP addresses to 0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.120 everyone on the planet times ten to the tw the 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:03.879 eighth power right, So basically they said, we don't want 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.600 to run out ever again. Well, the funny thing is, 0:35:06.719 --> 0:35:08.920 Chuck is in one when they came up with the 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:11.920 I p v four that came up with four point 0:35:11.960 --> 0:35:16.440 to nine five billion possible addresses. Yeah, they're like, that's 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:20.440 we're doing. And then what within like thirty thirty years, 0:35:20.880 --> 0:35:24.719 thirty five years, they started really run out. And apparently 0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:26.680 there was a prediction that in two thousand and fifteen 0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:28.680 we were gonna straight up run out of I p 0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:33.240 v four Internet addresses or IP addresses UM, and apparently 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.360 that was a cliff we avoided, obviously, because that's still 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:39.600 we're still making things that have their own IP addresses. 0:35:39.960 --> 0:35:42.239 I thought they did run out, No, they used They 0:35:42.400 --> 0:35:45.720 used different things to mitigate it, including this network address 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.440 translation really kind of open things up, and that's where 0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:53.720 a server identifies a network as a single IP address 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.000 and then leads it to the local network to decide 0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.719 where the information that's supposed to be going to. One 0:35:59.760 --> 0:36:02.480 can you around the network goes see what I'm saying, 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:04.480 but to the server, to the rest of the Internet, 0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.560 that whole network, which can be a ton of computers 0:36:08.080 --> 0:36:11.600 um is just one IP address. So you just reduced 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.320 it by that many computers that are on that local network. 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.919 That was a big one. But then also building um 0:36:18.120 --> 0:36:21.399 new things on the i p v six platform has 0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.520 helped mitigate it. A little bit too. So I think 0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.920 it's a cliff that we came very close to but 0:36:25.960 --> 0:36:28.920 avoided going over. Well, it doesn't matter now because I 0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:31.520 p V six is the new way forward. It is, 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:34.480 but there's a lot of stuff still in use that's 0:36:34.520 --> 0:36:37.680 plenty good for the next couple of years that have 0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.880 like I p V before p I p V four 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.400 addresses that still need to like they're like me too, Well, 0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:47.359 that doesn't matter. They can they're compatible now. Well, they're 0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.520 working to make them compatible. I think they're already a 0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:54.040 long way down that road. They're using both seamlessly pretty much. Um, 0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.080 there's a great wire state, well I think so. There's 0:36:57.120 --> 0:36:59.960 a great Wired article about it. Uh and they basically say, 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:04.759 at first they weren't entirely compatible. Uh, you had to 0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:06.760 have some sort of layer in between to make them 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:10.840 basically be friends. And um, they're still working on it. 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:14.080 It's not like finished, but it said so far the 0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.760 transition has been pretty seamless. Like you're using you're interacting 0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.160 with I PB six right now. You don't even know it. Yeah, 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:22.279 I would assume like if you have something that was 0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.480 made in the last couple of years, it's probably I 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:28.520 p V six, That's what I would guess, So that's 0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:31.880 pretty neat Undistillian didn't even know there was a thing. 0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:33.759 I didn't either, I had to look it up. It's like, 0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:39.160 what the heck is that a typo on? So I 0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:41.200 don't think we can put it off any longer, Chuck. 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.120 There's a lot of security and privacy concerns that crop 0:37:46.200 --> 0:37:49.839 up from the just the presence of the Internet of things. Right, 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:52.120 if you have a bunch of sensors in your house 0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:56.280 collecting data and everything from you know how how many 0:37:56.320 --> 0:38:00.400 times you toss and turn in your sleep to um, 0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.480 you know how many minutes the toilet needs to be 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.520 flushed in intervals to whether you're moving around your house 0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:10.520 or not, whether you're home. There's a lot of sensors 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:15.840 in in even now the standard home in the United States, UM, 0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.640 that can that are collecting data and there's not a 0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.759 lot of regulation on what happens to that data, who 0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:26.239 has access to that data, how safe that data has 0:38:26.280 --> 0:38:31.600 to be, and um, it's just wide open for government surveillance, hackers, 0:38:32.440 --> 0:38:36.840 targeted ads. I mean, if you're paranoid about government stuff, 0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.880 then this probably worries you. Hacking as a whole different 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.480 can of worms, like everyone should worry about that. Yeah, 0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:46.560 I feel like everyone should worry about governments aveillance as well, 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:50.960 big time some people. You know, I think that's bunk. 0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:57.920 But governments aveillance well some people. Yeah, sure they are fools. 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.920 Maybe people are utter fool and the world is full 0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:03.879 of fools. That's crazy to me. How could you not? 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:09.040 I mean, like, there's there's testimony from the head of 0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.960 the n s A. There was Snowdon releasing the prison files. Like, 0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:15.520 how could anyone just say, no, that's not the case 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.960 any Well, what you're saying is everyone should be as 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.440 up on this as I am. And that's that's the 0:39:20.480 --> 0:39:25.360 foolish statement. Your people on the street today, fifty of 0:39:25.400 --> 0:39:29.960 them would say that's just that's just conspiracy stuff that 0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.280 I see. I thought you were saying like people knew 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.560 and and they were saying like, no, this isn't a 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.120 real thing. No, I think I got most people probably 0:39:37.120 --> 0:39:39.759 have their head in the sand of totally agree. I 0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:44.160 see what you mean. I still think they're foolish and 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.560 and sad because there's the one thing that would press 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:53.000 security into the Internet of things. There isn't any right now, 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:55.840 there's virtually none, but I mean, it's all got to 0:39:55.880 --> 0:40:00.319 be self installed, not by the person but by the company, like, hey, 0:40:00.320 --> 0:40:02.000 we know you're probably worried, so we've done this, this 0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.760 and this right. And the way that that will happen 0:40:04.920 --> 0:40:07.920 is if people say, oh, that brand is not very secure, 0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.400 I'm going to go to their competitor, which is super secure, 0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:13.080 or if they get sued, sure, and that will cause 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:15.640 brands to which are self regulating right now as far 0:40:15.680 --> 0:40:19.080 as security goes, to become more secure. But if people 0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:21.399 are unaware of it or just don't think that kind 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:23.480 of stuff is going on, then there's not gonna be 0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.400 any call for that, and they'll be able to continue 0:40:25.440 --> 0:40:28.120 to put sensors, sensors in our home, devices in our 0:40:28.120 --> 0:40:31.160 home that can you drop on us, that can detect 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:34.680 all sorts of different things about us without any thought 0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.880 for security whatsoever. Yeah, well, they have a great example 0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:40.120 in here, and it's not just the Internet of Things 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:44.319 is already happening. Um with target His dad in two 0:40:44.400 --> 0:40:49.520 thousand twelve got mad because his teenage daughter was getting 0:40:50.080 --> 0:40:54.239 baby ads targeted toward her, and he was like, why 0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:56.120 are you trying to get my teenage daughter to have 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.840 a baby? Why do you keep center to this stuff. 0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:02.279 And he found out she's pregnant and was like he 0:41:02.320 --> 0:41:05.920 actually apologized to them, but I still think like he 0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.200 had a beef because what I thought is they were 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:14.560 just using her search uh information to target ads like, 0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:17.680 which is what goes on all the time. But she wasn't. 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:23.120 What Target does is they have every customer. Every time 0:41:23.160 --> 0:41:25.840 you shop at Target with a credit card, you have 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:29.360 a guest I D number that says, oh, here's that 0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.320 credit card from Josh Clark again, he's back in my store. 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:37.319 Here's all the things that he's bought. Uh. So let's 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:42.000 target ads at him simply by shopping there without using cash, 0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.560 which I didn't know that happened. Well, yeah, and it 0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:46.200 used to be you had to sign up for like 0:41:46.239 --> 0:41:49.719 a rewards program like a Kroger cards that I understand. 0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:53.480 This is the same thing without you opting into it. 0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.200 You know. Yeah, it's just tracking your credit card. And 0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:58.720 I think it's New York Times. I read one article 0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:01.840 where eventually they quit talking to the New York Times, 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:05.400 but he got a little information at first, uh, And 0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:07.479 he said he talked to a Target employee that said, 0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.000 here's the hypothetical example. Let's say this. There's a girl 0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.600 in Atlanta shopping here. She buys a cocoa butter lotion. 0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:17.720 She buys a big purse that could be a diaper bag. 0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:23.000 She buys magnesium supplements, uh, and a bright blue rug. 0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.520 They might just surmise, Hey, I bet this lady's pregnant, 0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:29.359 but she's gonna have a boy because she's gonna buy 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.200 that bright blue rug. He's gonna smell like cocoa butter. 0:42:32.640 --> 0:42:34.759 And yeah, and so you know what, I bet you 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:38.640 she's doing August too, uh, determined to buy what she's purchasing. 0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:42.600 So let's start bombarding her, bombarding her with ads. And 0:42:42.640 --> 0:42:44.240 that just seems a little creepy if you're not opting 0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:46.839 in with I mean, it's a little creepy anyway if 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:51.360 you get like the shopper's card, but you're you're saying like, sure, 0:42:51.480 --> 0:42:53.840 I'll take a little bit of a discount and exchange 0:42:53.840 --> 0:42:57.520 for you keeping checking my spending habits, or you willingly 0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.640 check the box terms and conditions with reading it, Well, 0:43:00.719 --> 0:43:03.240 that's I think terms and conditions should be a whole 0:43:03.280 --> 0:43:06.920 other episode. Man, there's a documentary about that. Yeah, that's 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:11.520 I think it's called terms and Conditions apply and it's maybe, 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.879 but boy it is creepy. Yeah, you know, I think 0:43:15.400 --> 0:43:17.440 no way, and they make it that long so that 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:20.600 no one would but it's yeah, And there's actually we've 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.480 read this uh Guardian article. Did you check that out 0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:26.520 that I sent you? So in the Guardian article there's 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:31.799 a mention of Samsung which had, uh, they had terms 0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:33.800 and conditions for their TV. I think it was in 0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:37.120 two fourteen or fifteen that it came out and it says, 0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:40.160 in the terms and conditions for the TV that you 0:43:40.239 --> 0:43:43.560 bring into your home, please be aware that if your 0:43:43.640 --> 0:43:48.040 spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.000 will be among the data captured and transmitted to a 0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:55.000 third party through your use of voice recognition, which means 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.880 your TV is listening to you and transmitting your conversations. 0:43:59.200 --> 0:44:01.400 Are at the very least keywords from your conversations in 0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:04.319 your voice to somebody else who can figure out how 0:44:04.360 --> 0:44:06.720 to target ads, who can put you on a government 0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:09.040 watch list, who can do anything, Which means that you're 0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.279 talking normally in your own home and your TV's eavesdropping 0:44:12.280 --> 0:44:15.719 on you. Yeah, and you uh, you think you say 0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.959 that's okay, not you, but one says that's fine. Because 0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:20.719 I don't want to touch my remote. I just want 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:25.160 to say, turn up volume. You know, yeah, I can't 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:29.200 be bothered to use my finger. Fine, Nicolas Cage movies 0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:35.560 come a bad one. He didn't make bad movies, dude, kidding. 0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:39.760 I used to love Andy Sandberg's Nick Cage on SNL. 0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.120 I don't think I ever saw that one. So funny. 0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.799 I like Nick Cage's tiny elvis. Oh yeah, that was good. 0:44:45.880 --> 0:44:49.799 He was so bizarre. He's I love Nicholas Cage because 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:53.040 he's unabashed. He will do some really great smaller movies 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.640 where you're like, man, this dude is an amazing actor, 0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:58.640 and then he'll do the worst garbage you can imagine 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:02.279 for money, yes, and just it's like, yeah, I wanna 0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:04.919 buy eight new motorcycles. But I think he's a great 0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:07.719 example of what a good director can do with an 0:45:07.760 --> 0:45:10.200 actor if they know what they're doing with them, because 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.000 he does virtually the same thing in all all movies. 0:45:13.080 --> 0:45:15.440 It's just how much more he's doing it and how 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:17.880 much he's reined in, or how good the script is. 0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.439 He comes in, he's like, you want Cage or Age. 0:45:22.360 --> 0:45:24.280 I mean, you're right. He has made some great movies. 0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:29.680 But man, he has made some bad ones. Wow. Oh wait, 0:45:29.680 --> 0:45:31.480 hold on, yeah, let's get back on track. There's one 0:45:31.480 --> 0:45:34.040 other thing too. There's a big debate going on right now, Chuck, 0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:38.319 about whether your phone is eaves dropping on you for 0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.439 at the very least targeted ads. Again, if you think 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:46.040 that your phone is not eaves dropping on you, you're 0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:52.319 you're deluding yourself. Your phone, your TV, your laptop, everything 0:45:52.400 --> 0:45:54.680 around you that is connected to the Internet and has 0:45:54.719 --> 0:45:58.480 a microphone and or a video camera is eaves dropping 0:45:58.800 --> 0:46:02.560 on you. And you don't care, right, I do care, 0:46:02.719 --> 0:46:04.600 But I also have a feeling like what you have 0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:07.200 a smart what can I do? I know you cannot 0:46:07.200 --> 0:46:09.120 have a smart phone. That's part of it. And there's 0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.120 there's a that's a big thing. There's a there's a 0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.279 trade off. It's like, Okay, I want to be able 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.520 to read Twitter every thirty seconds and just be like 0:46:16.760 --> 0:46:22.160 I was boring and then do it again thirty seconds later. Um, 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:25.240 And I'm willing to trade that ability for the idea 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:27.200 that yeah, I'm being listened to in the in the 0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:30.120 gamble that well, I mean, I guess I'm not saying 0:46:30.120 --> 0:46:33.480 anything that important, you know, But I mean, like that's 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:36.799 that's that's wrong, Like that's wrong. Well, or the people 0:46:36.840 --> 0:46:38.319 say like, well, if you don't have nothing to hide, 0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:40.920 then you know, that's that's a fallacy. That's a logical 0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.200 fallacy that a lot of the people collecting that data 0:46:44.280 --> 0:46:47.400 bank on it has it still has a chilling effect 0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:49.640 on on society at large. And if they ever do 0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:54.800 want something on you, brother, they got it. Man, I'm sorry, 0:46:54.800 --> 0:47:00.600 I'm worked up. I was driving. I mean, I'm gonna 0:47:00.680 --> 0:47:05.719 be cool. Then that light didn't change green. It all 0:47:05.760 --> 0:47:08.360 went south. It's a dumb traffic light, all right. So 0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.319 we talked a little bit about hackers. Um, and we're 0:47:11.320 --> 0:47:14.000 not just talking about stealing your information or tapping into 0:47:14.000 --> 0:47:18.359 your bank. Um. What about if you if you're if 0:47:18.360 --> 0:47:22.040 your grandmother who is a shut in, has this great 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:25.680 new smart health system that is hooked up to her 0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:30.239 body and alerts her doctor if something's wrong, she's low 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:32.799 on meds. Uh. These are all great things, but what 0:47:32.840 --> 0:47:36.680 if someone can hack into that and tell you know, 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.640 and hacking the grandma systems where it doesn't alert, then 0:47:39.640 --> 0:47:42.400 her life is literally at stake. Or what if you 0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:45.319 have and this has happened too, what if you go 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.440 into your baby's room and your baby monitor you hear 0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.760 some guy's voice on the end of their end, yelling 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:54.320 and screaming curse words in Russian. I think that's happened 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:58.280 to your baby? Is just like, what's this guy's problem? Yeah, 0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:03.359 he usually tells me nice stories. Where's Sergey wants back? 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.120 It's all really creepy, man. You know one of my heroes, 0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:12.480 Charles c Man, who I've never heard of it. He 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.239 also he wrote an article in Vanity Fair called look 0:48:15.280 --> 0:48:17.720 Out He's Got a Phone, and it was all about 0:48:17.800 --> 0:48:20.400 the ways that the Internet of Things could be hacked 0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:23.080 to like basically really threatened somebody. Like if you've got 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.600 a smart pacemaker or smart insulin pump, those things could 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.200 be hacked, you know, and that's a that's a something 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.880 that we're gonna have to deal with, or we're dealing 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.360 with now as it as it stands. Well, one of 0:48:34.400 --> 0:48:36.799 the things that could help and what should be going 0:48:36.880 --> 0:48:40.279 on is these devices at the very least should be 0:48:40.320 --> 0:48:44.399 giving you options on how much data they get their 0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:48.680 hands on, how it's stored, uh, and what the expiration 0:48:48.800 --> 0:48:52.280 date on that is, Like if you quit using this device, 0:48:52.480 --> 0:48:56.160 they still have your information or might still be collecting 0:48:56.200 --> 0:49:00.160 it too. Yeah, absolutely, or uh, when I didn't think 0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:04.880 about when these systems are no longer supported, like you know, 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:07.920 the company shuts down or something, it needs to have 0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:13.360 a suicide uh measure programmed in to where it like 0:49:13.400 --> 0:49:16.680 it kills itself after it's not supported anymore, and it 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:23.080 should do it gruesomely. What about economics, Well, as you 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.520 can imagine, if there's hundreds of billions of devices on 0:49:26.560 --> 0:49:30.280 the horizon being connected, it's going to have a pretty 0:49:30.280 --> 0:49:34.040 big economic impact. And they're talking about something on the 0:49:34.160 --> 0:49:37.799 order of what was it four point three trillion dollars 0:49:37.840 --> 0:49:44.400 in value up from nine billion? It seems low to me. Yeah, 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.160 you know, like think about just in cash you milk 0:49:47.200 --> 0:49:54.640 alone trillion dollars. Yeah. Well, it's also costing some companies. Um. 0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:58.359 How so, well, if you've heard of square, yeah, you'd 0:49:58.400 --> 0:50:00.200 probably pay for a lot of things with ware of 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:02.840 these days. It's a great thing because it allows a 0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:06.080 small business. Previously there was only one way to make 0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:10.440 credit card transactions. You had to get a fairly expensive 0:50:10.480 --> 0:50:15.200 system that uh or a cash register that you know 0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:17.279 made it all possible, and you had to They kind 0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.080 of had you over a barrel a little bit. Then 0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:20.920 Square came along and said, now you know what, you 0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.319 don't need that stuff. Let's democratize this. Yeah, we have 0:50:23.320 --> 0:50:25.680 the Internet. Now here's some competition. All you need this 0:50:25.760 --> 0:50:28.920 little thing to plug in to your tablet and you 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:31.080 can swipe it right there in the cab or in 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:35.359 the place of business and avoid the middlemen and use 0:50:35.719 --> 0:50:38.680 or use PayPal and basically skirt these companies that have 0:50:38.760 --> 0:50:42.000 kind of been ripping you off, um, as a business, 0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:44.160 and then that business passes the cost on to you 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:47.080 as a customer so in a way, or they're like, 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.120 we don't take that credit card there, fees are too 0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:54.520 high or whatever. Yeah, exactly. Um, but you're right, it's 0:50:54.719 --> 0:50:58.239 the democratization, which is good. I mean it's great. It's 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.520 opened up a lot of a lot. It's taken etsy 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:05.959 into the real world. That's right, you know. And isn't 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:09.120 that awesome? Well yeah, Um, there's also worry that it 0:51:09.120 --> 0:51:11.280 could cost jobs. Like you said, what if the lipstick 0:51:11.560 --> 0:51:16.040 um stocker gets fired? Um because he threw away all 0:51:16.080 --> 0:51:18.480 those orange tubes of lipstick. Yeah, he deserves that. He 0:51:18.520 --> 0:51:20.920 didn't do his job good enough. Um. Well that's it. 0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:24.160 Like this, I think this article kind of just kind 0:51:24.160 --> 0:51:26.680 of glosses over that issue, and it's a big issue 0:51:26.680 --> 0:51:28.719 in and of itself. I don't know, but I don't 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:30.520 think it glossed over it so much as there's a 0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.480 school of thought, a very like prominent school of thought 0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:38.560 that says, no, that's not what happens. People get different 0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.719 jobs and learn new things. And the one example they 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.560 used in here, which I think makes sense is, um, 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.440 a t M s A TMS popped up everywhere and 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.359 people like, oh, well, there's not gonna be any more 0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:51.359 bank tellers. No one needs to go to a bank, 0:51:51.480 --> 0:51:55.239 And well, yeah, but they actually increased in number, right, Yeah, 0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.440 they did, uh. And they think part of that reason 0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:02.120 is because banks could open more branches because they didn't 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:05.160 need to staff it with fourteen bankers, they just needed 0:52:05.200 --> 0:52:08.760 a couple. Yeah, but more branches meant ultimately more tellers, 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.600 just not in one place. The thing is is, I 0:52:11.360 --> 0:52:14.279 I would be very curious to know whether that was 0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:18.440 an anomaly like that. You know, if if typically in 0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:22.239 an industry that gets replaced by a machine, a good 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.600 one like an a t M works pretty well, Um, 0:52:25.640 --> 0:52:28.440 if they if they actually if jobs actually go up, 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:30.600 or if that was just like one of the very 0:52:30.680 --> 0:52:33.480 rare examples of it. Well, I think it's it depends 0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:36.319 on your industry. If you're one of the people that 0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:38.680 did that thing, you're like, well, I lost my job 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:42.160 to a robot. If you build the robots, you're like, 0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:45.120 I got a job because I'm now building robots. Right. 0:52:45.120 --> 0:52:47.000 And again, I think we talked about this, I don't 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:51.960 remember in what episode, but if you are getting rid 0:52:51.960 --> 0:52:54.960 of an industry and and putting a lot of people 0:52:54.960 --> 0:53:00.440 out of their their employment your careers. Um, I'm not 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:04.200 against automating stuff like that, but I think part and 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.040 parcel with that is to figure out a way to 0:53:07.120 --> 0:53:10.719 take those out of work people and train them to 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:14.680 go into new fields or just to to um build 0:53:14.680 --> 0:53:17.960 the stuff that that took over their jobs or whatever. 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.640 But you can't just be like, best of luck, we 0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:22.560 figured out a way for a robot to do what 0:53:22.600 --> 0:53:26.279 you're doing. Go uh, go get hooked on oxyconton and 0:53:26.320 --> 0:53:29.520 go die. Wait, we gotta what was that because we 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:31.960 got a great listener mail about that. Yeah, that's that's 0:53:32.000 --> 0:53:35.160 what I was talking about. A certain amount of people 0:53:35.200 --> 0:53:39.320 from this industry. It was a Kentucky coal coal industry 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:41.560 like that were then cross trained to do computer work. 0:53:42.600 --> 0:53:44.480 Wasn't even that long ago, but I can't remember exactly 0:53:44.520 --> 0:53:46.200 what it was, but that's exactly what I mean. Like, 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.920 that's number one. That's a role of government. In my opinion, 0:53:49.280 --> 0:53:51.040 it's one of the it's one of the clear things 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:52.760 that you can look at and be like, oh, yeah, 0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:55.959 that's what government's for. They're supposed to invest in infrastructure 0:53:55.960 --> 0:54:00.279 and education to to um keep people employed so that 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:05.160 everyone can earn a decent wage. That's that's my soapbox. 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.840 This has basically been one long soapbox, hasn't it. I 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.800 don't think so. Well, it's the Internet of Things. There's 0:54:10.880 --> 0:54:16.280 literally nothing more to speak about it. Okay, no more. Uh, 0:54:16.320 --> 0:54:18.359 I'm just kidding. And if you want to know more 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:19.879 about that kind of stuff, you should go check out 0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:24.480 our compadre, John Strickland's podcast, tech Stuff. I guarantee talks 0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:28.000 about the Internet of Things every other week, I would imagine. Um. 0:54:28.080 --> 0:54:30.480 If you want to know more about it. In the meantime, 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:33.520 you can look up this article on how stuff works 0:54:33.520 --> 0:54:36.200 dot com by typing Internet of Things on the search bar. 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.680 And since I said things, it's time for a listener 0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.200 mail No, sir, Oh yeah, we already did listener mail. 0:54:42.360 --> 0:54:44.960 Well that's right, but we have a bonus because now 0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:57.600 we're gonna finish up with part two of Administered. Okay, 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.239 alright again, if you're new to the show, this is 0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:02.480 when we thank people for the nice things they send us. 0:55:03.000 --> 0:55:07.080 And it goes a little something like this. Uh. Peter, 0:55:08.440 --> 0:55:12.279 the organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, they 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:15.880 send us a cat care package after our cat podcast, 0:55:16.600 --> 0:55:19.919 and I think probably partially because of my soapbox on 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:24.000 declining and outdoor cats, They're like this guy, yeah, send 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:26.520 him some cats stuff. Give him some cat stuff stat. 0:55:26.800 --> 0:55:28.439 So thanks for that. Put a cat in a box 0:55:28.480 --> 0:55:32.600 and mail it to him. That's Peter's way. We got 0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:38.840 a postcard from China from Mary Kate Mueller. Thanks a 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:42.280 lot for that, Mary Kate. We appreciate it. Beautiful. Lisa 0:55:42.360 --> 0:55:46.040 of black Bow Sweets, send us some candied pecans. Dude, 0:55:46.680 --> 0:55:49.759 those are dangerous. Oh yeah, they did not last long 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.920 in the Clarkhouse. No, almost didn't make it. On the 0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:59.040 ride home, I had to be like, I, man, they're good. Uh. 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.840 Aaron Supper send us the bottle of Sonoma County Distilling 0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:06.279 Companies west of Kentucky Bourbon number one. I haven't tried 0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.080 it as a good I have not tried it yet either, 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:09.919 but I'm very much looking forward to it. So thanks 0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:14.040 a lot eron. And speaking of whiskey, uh, thirty three Books, 0:56:14.760 --> 0:56:18.280 Dave from thirty three Books sent us a whiskey tasting 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:23.160 set which is a little uh I think imported from Ireland. 0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:26.640 Even a little whiskey tasting glass and book for note 0:56:27.080 --> 0:56:29.800 and a pen even. Yeah, it's everything you need, everything 0:56:29.840 --> 0:56:33.560 you need to taste whiskey. So thanks Dave for that. Um, 0:56:33.680 --> 0:56:37.560 we got a postcard from Caitlin and her fiance from 0:56:37.600 --> 0:56:41.839 the Mayo Clinic, remember the Helen Branch mentioned and I think, 0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:46.240 like I think some Unsolved Mysteries. We heard the episode 0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:49.920 on Unsolved Mysteries long ago. Yeah, but we got a 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:54.719 Mayo Clinic postcard. Yeah, why not? Robin and Arran sent 0:56:54.840 --> 0:56:58.960 us some coasters, some Detroit coasters because they know, even 0:56:58.960 --> 0:57:01.640 though we poked on a Detroit, we secretly love Detroit. Yeah, 0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:05.319 thanks Robin and Aaron for that. Mark Singleton over at 0:57:05.400 --> 0:57:09.040 Rudolph Food sent us a ton of pork crimes and 0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:10.960 a bunch of great gear to go with it. So 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.600 we can wear camouflaged hat while we eat our pork 0:57:14.600 --> 0:57:19.680 crimes right as it should be. Sam Meckling of Jeffson's 0:57:19.760 --> 0:57:24.000 Millard of Chicago, Yeah, sent us bottles of Milord, And 0:57:24.040 --> 0:57:27.240 if you've never heard of Milord, it is Chicago's own 0:57:28.040 --> 0:57:35.600 special uh liqueur, it's something it is. It's um known 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:44.040 for its ah harsh aftertaste. Guess it's a good way 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:45.840 to put it. Yeah. The great thing about Mallord, though, 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.200 is they know the deal. They're not like, this is 0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:53.400 so delicious, You're just never gonna have anything better here. 0:57:53.960 --> 0:57:57.120 You seem to be having a good day. Let's change that. Um. Yeah, 0:57:57.160 --> 0:57:59.960 but Mlord actually have gotten this is the best thing 0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:02.720 you can say. I've gotten used to it, and um, 0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:05.400 it's an interesting taste. You should try it out. Well. 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:07.480 Thanks to the dudes who sent us that, we appreciate. 0:58:07.560 --> 0:58:10.480 Thank you, Sam Um. Speaking of Booze, I think we 0:58:10.560 --> 0:58:13.120 mentioned it the other day, but also again, thank you 0:58:13.160 --> 0:58:15.760 to the people at Spring forty four, which is a 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.960 Colorado distillery for the old tom Jin that they sent us. Yeah, 0:58:19.000 --> 0:58:22.960 that was just beautiful yea and actually just ran out Yeah, 0:58:23.120 --> 0:58:28.160 so just fire just thrown that out there. Badger body 0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:31.440 body products. Um, a competitive of my own wife. Even. 0:58:31.560 --> 0:58:34.440 That was Dave who sent us those Dave from Badger 0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:38.000 Body Products for outam New Hampshire sentence shaving stuff and 0:58:38.080 --> 0:58:41.720 sunscreen and beared oils and such. That was Dave Morrell. 0:58:41.960 --> 0:58:44.640 He was the beer guy. Yeah, he worked at Sweetwater. Yeah, 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:46.840 so he used to bring a sweetwater. He's a great 0:58:46.880 --> 0:58:48.640 guy and like all beer guys, he ended up in 0:58:48.640 --> 0:58:53.200 New Hampshire. Um. But Emily, actually my own wife, who 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.400 has her natural body product company, went and she usually 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:59.600 poop boo's because people say they're natural in art. She went, oh, 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:02.440 she's like Badger's good. Actually, yeah, she's like they make 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:05.040 good stuff. So I used their beard oil. Now, well 0:59:05.040 --> 0:59:08.400 thanks a lot, David. I've been using the um the 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:12.640 They have a bug repellent sun block that works, smells awesome, 0:59:12.880 --> 0:59:15.040 smells like citron now that works like a charm. So 0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:18.439 thank you for that. Pie Lady and Son, oh yeah, 0:59:18.440 --> 0:59:20.840 out of New York. They sent us Pie Dude and 0:59:20.920 --> 0:59:23.840 they were just getting started with their shipping program and 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.080 Pie Lady and Son I have to tell you it 0:59:26.160 --> 0:59:30.000 worked great. They showed up fresh and delicious, and by 0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.680 delicious I mean really really delicious. Yeah, thanks a lot 0:59:32.720 --> 0:59:34.680 for that guy. Yeah, so you can support them as well. 0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:38.000 Pie Lady and Son out of New York City. UM 0:59:38.120 --> 0:59:41.320 Zach debt More sent us some beautiful cherry, walnut and 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:44.680 maplewood boxes. Those are great. Yeah, you got mine on 0:59:44.760 --> 0:59:49.120 my desk. Matt Dent sent us his He's a he's 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:51.880 a comic strip guy who's created the Willie who comics 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.320 around for twenty five years. I know, I saw that book. 0:59:54.320 --> 0:59:57.000 It's amazing. Yeah. He sent us a big collection collector's edition. 0:59:57.200 --> 1:00:01.840 Congratulations Matt and Chuck. Some buddy, Uh made us a 1:00:01.920 --> 1:00:05.000 longboard that I've got stuff. You should know, a longboard. 1:00:05.000 --> 1:00:08.840 It's amazing. I don't know. We lost the correspondence. Who 1:00:08.840 --> 1:00:10.720 don't know who made it? Yes, so if you made it, 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:12.920 send that in and we'll reach your name. Yeah, well, 1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:15.520 thank you, but thank you very much for the longboard. 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:20.320 Our buttery butter buddy, Tyler Murphy, he's there, butter, He's 1:00:20.320 --> 1:00:23.920 our butter, our bread and butter. Uh from South Dakota 1:00:24.000 --> 1:00:28.800 sinis Um Instant Empire shirts and records, which is really cool. 1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:31.360 And I just realized that Tyler's emails has been going 1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:34.400 to my spam folder. I emailed them today because I 1:00:34.440 --> 1:00:37.000 never look in there and I happened to for something else. 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.200 That's a bunch of emails from Tyler. I'm like, dude, 1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:45.720 so sorry. Yeah. Um, Hillary lows Are and Mike Dude. 1:00:45.960 --> 1:00:47.520 I don't know if Mike's a lows Are or not, 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:51.600 but Hillary Mike have been with us for years. They 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:54.720 are also from the Dakotas and travel to see our 1:00:54.760 --> 1:00:57.640 shows in Seattle and they're wonderful people. Hillary is a 1:00:57.680 --> 1:01:00.200 teacher and they as always sent us to list just 1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:04.360 delicious flathead like cheese. Dude, that is the best cheese 1:01:04.400 --> 1:01:06.680 on the planet. I think, who you got better cheese 1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:09.160 and flathead like? Send it in? Let us be the 1:01:09.240 --> 1:01:14.480 judge Rachel Stone, who is artist from Australia's East Coast. 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:17.960 She has a site called Land of Wonderful dot com. 1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:20.360 She sent us a lovely handmade cards and letters. So 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:23.000 thanks a lot, Rachel. Uh. And then finally you got 1:01:23.040 --> 1:01:26.400 any more? Nope? Last one. Emily and the crew at 1:01:26.440 --> 1:01:30.040 Kickapoo Joy Drinks. Oh yeah, they have their Kickapoo Joy 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:35.280 Juice and their Atlanta base and they make all natural drinks, juice, 1:01:35.400 --> 1:01:38.920 juices and sodasn't things Kickapoo Juice and they sent us 1:01:38.960 --> 1:01:41.280 a box and that was super nice. Thanks a lot, guys. 1:01:41.360 --> 1:01:44.040 Thanks to everybody who sent us stuff. We appreciate it 1:01:44.160 --> 1:01:47.080 every time, so thank you. Uh. 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