1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: for the invested sportsman. All Right, here we go throwing 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: in job. I'm saying it's a cash to. 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 2: We'll see most gamblers when they go to gamble, they 5 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: go to win. 6 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: God, that's incredible. Big banks, small banks. I like to 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: make money. All right, this is the ultimate KABA. 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: Want to pull. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 3: And we are underway. 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week fourteen Fantasy 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs, and with me as 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: always as Shawn Corner and Chris Raybondshawn is our director 14 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: of predictive Analytics and one of the top end season 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: fantasy football rankers for the past half decade, and Chris 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: is a senior editor and analyst at the Action Network 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and a co host at the Action Network show on 18 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: Serious XM to See Radio. In this episode, we're breaking 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: down the players at the top of our rankings, which 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 1: are available at actionnetwork dot com slash Fantasy. We are 21 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: discussing the guys we are high and low on, and 22 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: we're speculating on some props and joining us for all 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: of that is one of the greatest season long fantasy 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: football players in the world, Nelson Sousa. Nelson is part 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: of the Arbor Pro Team. He has over one million 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: dollars in fantasy career earnings. In twenty sixteen, along with 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 1: his partner David Hubbard, he won the FFPC Main Event 28 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: and he is an FFC Platinum League two time winner. Nelson, 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. 30 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 4: Guys. 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: It's Week fourteen. The fantasy playoffs are here. Any big 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: picture takeaways from week thirteen and then how are you 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: positioned for the playoffs across all of your different leagues. 35 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: The two big ones for me were, it looked like 36 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey might be slowing down a little bit from 37 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: that heavy workload. Maybe it was just to chuck it 38 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: up to a bad game, but it looked like to 39 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: me like he dropped a few passes in that game, 40 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: which is uncharacteristic for him sometimes tired legs, tired body. 41 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 2: And then obviously last night, you know, the Dalvin Cook 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: injury could be a big factor in fantasy playoffs if 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: that's something that's going to linger or maybe knock them 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: out this week. 45 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Dalvin Cook news definitely something to keep an 46 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: eye on. He was injured on Monday Night football. As 47 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: of recording. We are recording this on Tuesday afternoon. He 48 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: says that he is planning to play in week fourteen, 49 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: but everyone be sure to keep an eye on that. 50 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Let's jump into week fourteen. Let's start with the quarterback position. 51 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: At the top of our rankings. We have Lamar Jackson, 52 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, and Russell Wilson Nelson. It's obviously early in 53 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: the week, but do you have any thoughts on those 54 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: guys or other players that you would put into the 55 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: top tier? 56 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, Wilson, those guys, you just got to play 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: them if you have them. I think I kind of 58 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: subscribe to I don't mind playing matchups, but I kind 59 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: of subscribe to you play your studs, especially the guys 60 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: that kind of got you there and have formed that. 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: You know, Watson kind of showed us that he's matchup proof, right, 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: kind of had a tough matchup against New England and 63 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 2: just rolled them up. Lamar Jackson, same thing against San Francisco. 64 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: You figure, ah, you know, this could be one of 65 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 2: his down games. Now not the case. So I think 66 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: you guys pretty much. You know, hit those guys. I 67 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: wouldn't probably get cute with starting any other quarterback over them. 68 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Is there anyone that you think you are relatively high 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: on this week, maybe kind of relative to the perception 70 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: of that player across the industry. 71 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 2: I'm kind of high on Kyle Allen this week and 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 2: Danny Dimes or Danny Bitcoin, whatever he goes by each week. 73 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: So those are probably the two guys that I'm high 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 2: on that probably most people maybe wouldn't be thinking of 75 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: starting them in their fantasy playoffs. 76 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: Let's hear it for Danny Dimes. 77 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: All right, Sean, I want to kick it to you 78 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: looking good over there in your Action Network hoodie one, 79 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: I hope you had a good Thanksgiving? Two? Who do 80 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: you like this week? 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: So? I like the guy. 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: I was pretty low on him last week, but at 83 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 5: Sam Darnold, I ended up being like minus five or 84 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 5: six on ECR on Fantasy Pros. I didn't think he 85 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 5: was a top ten QB last week, but this week 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: I think he is at home against the Dolphins. I 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 5: mean he's only six K, so I think he's a 88 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 5: great play in DFS this week as well. Should be 89 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 5: low owned after last week's doud But you know, the 90 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 5: Dolphins are a perfect get right spot and this is 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 5: the time of year where Robbie Anderson comes out of 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 5: hibernation and start just tearing it up. With that connection 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 5: with Robby Anderson heating up, this is a great spot 94 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 5: for them to air it out. And he you know, 95 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: he has Crowder, you know, epic tight end. Ryan Griffin, 96 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 5: We've talked about way too much the past few weeks, 97 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 5: but I just love this spot. 98 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 3: So he's my QB eight to start the week. 99 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: All right, Raymond, I hope you had a good Thanksgiving. 100 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: You're looking relatively tired, like a guy who just stayed 101 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: up all night working on his Action Network rankings, which 102 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: I am sure you did. Who are you relatively high on? 103 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 4: Definitely always a break night on Monday nights into Tuesday 104 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: morning when we record the pod. And as far as 105 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 4: guys I'm high on, like Ryan Tannehill this week, Oakland's 106 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 4: defense number one. You know, a couple of tough losses. 107 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: They might kind of be, you know, checking out a 108 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 4: little bit. Their playoff hopes are starting to dwindle. Titans 109 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 4: are still focused. So like Ryan Tannehill is a top 110 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 4: twelve QB this week. I think if you're going a 111 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 4: little further down, maybe more of a DFS dart throw 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 4: Devlyn Hodges the Arizona Cardinals, we know that they are 113 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 4: going to play at a higher pace. You know, the 114 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers have been in these really low scoring kind 115 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 4: of games, but we saw Jared Goff get right last 116 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: week against this Cardinals team, and I think Hodges and 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: that and that Steelers offense could have some surprising success 118 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 4: against the Cardinals as well. 119 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, like the duck call there. I'm going with Patrick 120 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes And actually I should say to go off of 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: what you said with Ryan Tannehill. He has the easiest 122 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: playoff schedule of any quarterback in the league, going against 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders in Texans in Week fourteen and fifteen, a 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: harder matchup against the Saints in Week sixteen, but he 125 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: has a chance of helping you at least get to 126 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: the championship game with those those two matchups. I'm going with. 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: Mahomes is someone I'm relatively high on at New England, 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: which you know might seem kind of desperate, but I'm 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: impressed by what Lamar and Deshaan have done against the Patriots. 130 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: So far, and I think in the two games that 131 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: he's had against this Patriots defense, both of them last year, 132 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: you know, once and I believe Week six, and then 133 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship game, I thought Mahomes looked pretty good. 134 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: He seems basically still to be the same guy that 135 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: he was last year. So I like what he has 136 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: the possibility of doing. And I think people are probably 137 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit too low on him 138 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: because of the matchup take because Nelson, who are you 139 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: looking to fade or to stay away from this week. 140 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: In DFS, I'm probably looking at actually to stay away 141 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: from Mahomes. So I'll go with the contrarian approach with 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: that one. With you. My thinking is New England's defense 143 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks when they've faced Lamar, Jackson 144 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: and Watson, I noticed something where they haven't been running 145 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: those zero blitz looks that they were running at the 146 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: beginning of the year. The defense has been really vanilla. Also, 147 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 2: I'm a Patriots fan, so full disclaimer, so I've been 148 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: following them for quite a few years. And with Belichick, 149 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: he's kind of like that next level thinker, so I 150 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: think he's looking at it as we're going to possibly 151 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 2: face these guys at some point in the playoffs. So 152 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 2: with like Mahomes, he kept at Vanilla with those guys, 153 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 2: and you think, like their defense is not that great 154 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,559 Speaker 2: because they're facing good quarterbacks. I actually think that he's 155 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 2: purposely going Vanilla, you know, for a reason with matchups 156 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: maybe later in the season. Mahomes, they kind of already 157 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 2: know that offense and what they got to do, so 158 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: I think that's going to be kind of a tough 159 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: matchup for him, and most people are probably going to 160 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: stay away from Mahomes just looking at New England unless 161 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: they want to be like really contrarian. The other one, 162 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: pretty obvious, would be like Josh Allen. He's been really 163 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: solid for fantasy, but this wouldn't be the week that 164 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: I would be interested in playing him. Drew Brees would 165 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: be the other guy that I'd be fading this week 166 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: I wouldn't have any interest in. So those are probably 167 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 2: the three big quarterback fantasy names that I would leave alone. 168 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: Sean, how about you? Who do you dislike this week? 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 5: So the guy disliked he's actually my QB nine, So 170 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: I still like him in season long weeks, but for DFS, 171 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins the second highest priced QB this week. They're 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 5: at home against Detroit, which is a great matchup, but 173 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 5: you know, two touchdown favorites here, they probably don't need 174 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 5: Cousins to throw too much to win. I also think 175 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: Mahomes is a bit over at seven K, but you 176 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 5: can make a case. 177 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 3: I mean, he has the. 178 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 5: Upside to warrant that price no matter what the matchup is. 179 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 5: But Cousins just you know, he doesn't have the rushing ability. 180 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 5: He doesn't, you know, carry that highest ceiling to warrant 181 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 5: being you know, two hundred dollars more than Deshaun Watson 182 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 5: or a few hundred more than Jameis Winston. So I 183 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 5: just think at that price this week, he's a complete 184 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 5: fade for me in DFS. But like I said, season long, 185 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: you know, he's still a low MQB one pretty high floor. 186 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 5: This week, you know, they have the highest team total. 187 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 5: So I do like him, but he should not be 188 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 5: the second most expensive QB this week. 189 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: Raybaughond, who are you staying away from? Drew Brees. 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 4: I think that's the one that really stands out. Usually 191 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 4: he's a lot higher, but well outside the top twenty 192 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 4: for me. This week. If you just look at what 193 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: San Francisco has been able to do against quarterbacks that 194 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 4: cannot really move in the pocket. They just meet at 195 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 4: the quarterback and it's been ugly. I mean, you saw 196 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 4: it with Aaron Rodgers twenty of thirty three, one hundred 197 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 4: and four yards. Only Andy Dalton has thrown for three 198 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 4: hundred against San Francisco and that was way back in 199 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: Week two and it took like a long guarb time 200 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: John Ross touchdown to get there. They've held each of 201 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: the last three passers they've faced to one hundred and 202 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: fifty yards passing or fewer. It's just a really tough 203 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 4: matchup for Breeze and you know he'll probably complete his 204 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: balls to Michael Thomas, but there's not really enough with 205 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 4: that Saints offense where he can kind of spread it 206 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: all around at this point to warrant touching him against 207 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 4: this defense. 208 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Raymond and Nelson, I'm with you there on Breeze. I 209 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: have him outside of the top twenty. I believe number 210 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 1: twenty three right now, as you mentioned, very tough matchup. 211 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: Another guy I'm lower on still in the top ten, though, 212 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: is Matt Ryan going against the Panthers Panthers have a 213 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: good pass defense, and there's uncertainty with Julio Jones and 214 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: Austin Hooper this week. Even if those guys play, they 215 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: might be limited. So I just kind of want to 216 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: get a little more clarity on the situation of the 217 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: players around him before I potentially bump him up. But 218 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: right now I'm a little bit lower on him. Sean, 219 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: I want to kick it to you for this week's 220 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: quarterback player prop the way everyone should check out the 221 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Fantasy Labs prop tool. Going back to last season, the 222 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: plays with a bet quality of ten have a sixty 223 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: percent win rate. Pretty pretty good, Sean. What do you 224 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: have for us? 225 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 5: So we've already talked about it a few times, but 226 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes at New England, I wanted to do his 227 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 5: passing yards prop and right now I feel pretty good 228 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 5: about this. 229 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 3: But right now I have it at two seventy eight 230 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 3: and a half. 231 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 4: I'll go under. I mean, no one's hit that against 232 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 4: New England. Yet a lot of the success going against 233 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,559 Speaker 4: the Pats has come, you know, with quarterbacks who can 234 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: kind of use their legs as well or just give 235 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 4: that threat. And even last week when Deshaun Watson didn't 236 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 4: really do that. I know they had a trick play, 237 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 4: but he had negative one rushing yards and so you 238 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 4: would think he would have you know, gotten over in 239 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 4: the air. But he also had only two hundred and 240 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: thirty four pass yards twenty five attempts, So pretty good YPA. 241 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 4: But I think you also have to be concerned with 242 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: the New England offense and their ability to even create 243 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: you know, shootout environments at this point. 244 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 5: So I'll go under. Yeah, it'd be fair. I mean 245 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 5: Mahomes does have sneaky rushing upside. Yeah, and he's he's 246 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 5: shut out the past two games. 247 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: But I agree, I have the projection for under around 248 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy. But that said, screw my projection. 249 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm going over. In his two games against the Patriots, 250 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: in the AFC Championship Game, he had two hundred and 251 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: ninety five. In Week six, he had three hundred and 252 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: fifty two. Even if the Patriots don't make it super competitive, 253 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: I still think it's going to shoot out a little bit, 254 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: and I like the weapons that he has around him. 255 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: If the Patriots really look to take away Tyreek Hill, 256 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: which I think is what they're going to do, I 257 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: still think Travis Kelcey and Sammy Watkins and DeMarcus Robinson 258 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: and Mikiel Hardman can give him enough production through the 259 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: air for him still to hit the over. So I 260 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: will go over. I mean, I don't feel great about it, 261 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be bullish on him. 262 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna say that I think Belichick is going 263 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: to allow them to run the ball. They're going to 264 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 2: put probably the Jackson kid on Tyreek with safety help 265 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: over the top. And I actually think that Gilmore you 266 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 2: might see Gilmore on Travis Kelcey a little bit, or 267 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: Jamie Collins on Kelsey. I'm going to say Belichick's just 268 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 2: going to make them kind of methodically march down the field, 269 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 2: no big plays. So I'm going to go on the 270 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 2: under for Mahomes. I think they're going to play too 271 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 2: deep safety and allow them to kind of run the 272 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 2: ball a little. 273 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 1: Bit, Okay, to totally derail us. Although I think this 274 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: is an interesting football conversation. Nelson, I like your thoughts 275 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: on this a little bit more since you're a keen 276 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: football observer and a Patriots fan in particular. So last 277 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: year in the AFC Championship Game, they did put I 278 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: believe it was Jonathan Jones on on Tyreek Hill with 279 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: safety help over the top, so similar to what you're 280 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: suggesting that they might do this week. But this year 281 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: they've really just put Gilmore on opposing number one wide 282 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: receivers like militantly, regardless of the type of receivers he's 283 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: been going against. It's been big guys, it's been small guys. 284 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: It's really just been every opposing number one receiver. What 285 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: makes you think that they might do something different this week? 286 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Is it just because they're more familiar with the Chiefs 287 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: or is it because Tyreek Hill is just unlike any 288 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: other wide receiver that they faced. 289 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, both to those questions would be yes. So I 290 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: think they're familiar with Kansas City. Tyreek presents kind of 291 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: a little bit more of a matchup problem for Gilmour. 292 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that he can only cover the 293 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 2: traditional wide receiver that lines up in the outside or 294 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: the slot, but Tyreek, you know, they run them on 295 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 2: these jet sweeps and everything. I just the Jackson kid 296 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 2: is probably their fastest corner on defense, so I think 297 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: they're just going to put him on them really kind 298 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: of keep them close to the line of scrimmage so 299 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: that he can track them on those jet sweeps and 300 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 2: those movement plays pre snap and then with safety. And 301 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 2: I think Gilmore is going to be the guy that either, 302 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: you know, they're going to say, hey, you know, let's 303 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: just put you on Watkins or match you up with 304 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: Kelsey every once in a while, depending on what the 305 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: play call is. So that that's my thinking behind that. Otherwise, yeah, 306 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: any other receiver, I think Gilmore just lines up with 307 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: the number one. 308 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it'll be interesting. I think the way 309 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: that the Patriots choose to defend Tyreek Hill is how 310 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: the game is going to be defined like that will 311 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: be what determines how the game plays out. 312 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 4: One thing to keep in mind, too, is that the 313 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 4: Patriots we did see them start to switch it up 314 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 4: a little bit in that game against Houston the other 315 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: night where they were dropping back into a lot of 316 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: zone and they haven't played in much zone coverage, so 317 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: I think at that time of the year where you know, 318 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: they're probably going to try to do some things to 319 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: throw opponents off and break tendencies at this time of 320 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 4: the year. 321 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into running backs. The guys we 322 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: have at the top of our rankings, Christian McCaffrey, Dalvin Cook, 323 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott. Obviously, keep in mind Dalvin Cook left Monday 324 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: Night Football, so keep an eye on that. But right now, Nelson, 325 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: is there anyone else that you would want to include 326 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: in the top tier of running backs? Four week fourteen? 327 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: This guy kind of has disappointed pretty much like all year, 328 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 2: he's just been just average. But this is the week 329 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 2: I think that he has like his like true breakout game, 330 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: and it's Leveon Bell. So he would be one guy 331 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: that I'd be really interested in this week. The other 332 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 2: guy that I wanted to mention would be Melvin Gordon, 333 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 2: possibly lower owned type of running back that I think 334 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: has a really good matchup. Jacksonville looks like they kind 335 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: of have given up a little bit on the season, 336 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: not really playing too hard, so that would be another play. 337 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you look, you know the past two weeks 338 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 2: running backs have just been crushing Jacksonville. You know, Tampa 339 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: Bay's kind of hard to put up there because they 340 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: just they don't have really good running backs per se. 341 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 2: But you know, Barbara got a couple of touchdowns. You're 342 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,680 Speaker 2: able to run the ball on them, So I would 343 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: expect like Gordon and Bell would be like the two 344 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: guys that I think have the ceiling the upside to 345 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 2: kind of be like total like slate breakers, at more 346 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 2: of a lower owned percentage. 347 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: Sean, what do you think Hryt relatively high on Week fourteen? 348 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 3: Just taking a step back, is this full of headache? 349 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 5: Like committee backfield type situations and ray behind I were 350 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: joking last night we could just do the entire pod 351 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 5: on running backs this week, and there's only one running 352 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: back that's I consider a workhorse back that's under fifty 353 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: five hundred, and that's Devonte Freeman. He's going to be 354 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 5: a little under the radar just because you know he's 355 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 5: been out for a few weeks and then he played 356 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: Thursday night for the Thanksgiving slate. But I love this 357 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 5: matchup at home. You know, the Falcons are slight favorites, 358 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 5: and he got twenty one touches his first game back. 359 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 5: So this is a matchup against Panthers that just got 360 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 5: crushed by both Darius Guys and Adrian Peterson last week. 361 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 5: So this is a spot where I'm looking to get 362 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 5: Freeman at hopefully you know, lower ownership and pretty cheap 363 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 5: considering he's one of the few workhorse packs left this 364 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 5: time of year. And the other guy, you know, speaking 365 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 5: of just the committee backfields, the guy that I think 366 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: I might take a stab at and a few teams 367 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 5: would be Jordan Wilkins. You know, before Marlon Mack got hurt, 368 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 5: he was clearly the backup where if you know, Mack 369 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 5: went down, I think we'd all we'd be all over Wilkins. Unfortunately, 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 5: he had that ankle injury so he had to miss 371 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: that first game. So Jonathan Williams sort of carried you know, 372 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 5: he got the starter role for the past couple of games, 373 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 5: but last week, Wilkins out touched Williams. I don't know 374 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 5: if it was due to injury or game flow or what, 375 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 5: but I think there's a chance that Wilkins could have 376 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 5: inherited the starter role. And you know, this is a 377 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 5: tougher matchup against the Buccaneers, but at thirty seven hundred, 378 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 5: I think he's worth a flyer. And this is one 379 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 5: of the many backfields I'm going to be looking into 380 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 5: this week and trying to get right, but I think 381 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 5: Wilkins could be a sneaky play this week. 382 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: Ramon, what about you? Who do you like? 383 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: One guy I'm looking at is Phillip Lindsay. I think 384 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 4: the Texans, since they've lost JJ Watt, that run defense 385 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 4: is not very formidable, and it kind of went under 386 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 4: the radar with all of the talk and narrative about 387 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 4: what's ailing the Patriots in their receivers getting lack of 388 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: separation and Brady frustrated. But James White goes for fourteen 389 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 4: for seventy nine, so that's over five yards, to Cary 390 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 4: Michelle ten for forty four point five, and then Burkehead 391 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 4: also at three for fifteen, so that's five yards to 392 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 4: carry well over one hundred yards. The week before Jonathan 393 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 4: Williams goes over one hundred and naim Heim goes over 394 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 4: fifty on just nine carries, and then the week before 395 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 4: that they give up one hundred and seventy eight yards 396 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 4: on the ground combined to Ravens backs and I'm not 397 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: counting obviously Lamar Jackson just the running back. So this 398 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: Texans run defense just think they're due to kind of 399 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 4: get exploded on and Wendsy over the last three games 400 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 4: he's getting He's seen his carries here tick up to 401 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 4: where they've had sixty two running back carries and he's 402 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: gotten forty six of them seventy four percent, So right, 403 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 4: he's getting three out of every four now, whereas early 404 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 4: in the year he was right around fifty five percent. 405 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: So like lindsay to to have a big game against Houston. 406 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: All right. One guy I'm relatively high on is mark 407 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: Ingram going against Buffalo, which has a strong defense, but 408 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 1: much stronger in its pass defense than its run defense. 409 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: In fact, they have a pretty marked run funnel defense, 410 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,919 Speaker 1: and I'm expecting the Ravens, who are number one in 411 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the league in rush success rate, to stick to the 412 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: running game quite a bit to exploit the weakness of 413 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: the team they're facing. So I think Ingram will have 414 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: a pretty decent rushing game, and I could see him, 415 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, falling into the end zone a couple of times, 416 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: which just seems to be the main way that he 417 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: gets fantasy points. But at this point it's happened enough 418 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: to where I think it's it's pseudo reliable. Nelson, I'm wondering, 419 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: who are you relatively low on. 420 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: He's not on the main But the guy I probably 421 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 2: wouldn't have touched is Zeke Elliott on the Thursday night game, 422 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: and that's only because I just saw that Hakeem Hicks 423 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: is returning back to practice for the Chicago Bears, and 424 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: he actually is what makes their defense click. So I'm 425 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: not going to mention him, but I'd probably say that 426 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: it's McCaffrey. I think against Atlanta it looks like just 427 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: like a premium matchup. I don't know, He's super expensive, 428 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,239 Speaker 2: and it makes it hard to kind of fit, you know, 429 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: the rest of the players that I would want to play, 430 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of more in the mid tier of 431 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: running backs. So McCaffrey would be a guy. Listen, he's 432 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: a monster, but he's probably a guy that i'd probably 433 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 2: am gonna, you know, leave alone this week. 434 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 1: Sean, what about you? 435 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 5: I mean, Tevin Coleman's value has hit rock button. There's 436 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 5: no way I'm spending fifty one hundred on him this 437 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 5: week at New Orleans. Most has definitely looked like their 438 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 5: best back the past two games, and Matt Breeder returns 439 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,160 Speaker 5: this week, So I'm avoiding just all backs on this team, 440 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 5: especially if you're in season long. I don't think you 441 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: could trust any of these backs. They're all ranked in 442 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 5: the you know, RB forty to fifty range for me, 443 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 5: right now, and you even have like Jeff Wilson lurking 444 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 5: around for potential Vulture touchdowns. So I know we've been 445 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 5: kind of banking on Tevin Coleman and breakout as Funk, 446 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 5: But with Matt Rita back, I just say leave on 447 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 5: your bench this week and complete fade for me in DFS. 448 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 5: And the other guy is Kareem Hunt. I believe he 449 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 5: is the eighth most expensive running back on DK, which 450 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 5: is way too high. I get the home matchup against 451 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 5: the Bengals is a smash spot for running backs and stuff, 452 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 5: but I think this this is gonna be more of 453 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 5: a Nick Chub game. I could see Chubb getting you know, 454 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 5: twenty five plus carries this week. There's not really a 455 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 5: need to use cream Hunt too much. So I just 456 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 5: think at this price he's more of a high floor, 457 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 5: low end RB two flex kind of guy. I don't 458 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 5: think he really has a ceiling this week to warrant 459 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 5: being the eighth most expensive running back on the slip. 460 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 4: Raybon What about for me, it's probably James White. I 461 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 4: think that he is going to be higher owned than 462 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: he normally would be because of the big game on 463 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 4: National TV, and now you kind of look at the Chiefs. 464 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 4: The matter up against the Chiefs and you say, okay, 465 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: well they're a high scoring team. Maybe the Patriots are 466 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: going to get behind and have to throw the football out. 467 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 4: But I just don't see, you know, White had a 468 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 4: season high fourteen carriage, he played sixty eight snaps, and 469 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 4: now they are essentially on a shorter week. I just 470 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 4: don't see him doing that in back to back games. 471 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 4: And he had a relatively quiet afternoon against the Chiefs 472 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 4: in the AFC Championship game. Six carries twenty three yards, 473 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: four catches forty nine yards, no score, So nothing you know, 474 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 4: too out of you know, big for him in that one. 475 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: And I think what the Patriots. 476 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 4: May actually want to do, given that they've been struggling 477 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: in the past game is start. You know, they haven't 478 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 4: really had a full back all but they're using a 479 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 4: land In Roberts a little more there. They also have 480 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 4: finally have two tight ends healthy and Watson in what cost, 481 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 4: I think they might try to go bigger, maybe tackle eligible, 482 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 4: and run on the Chiefs a lot to keep their 483 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 4: offense off the field. So that's what I'm looking for. 484 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 4: I'm looking for more of them Michelle game than the 485 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 4: White game this week. 486 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: All right, and Nelson, I'm with you on being relatively 487 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: low on Ezekiel Elliott. As you mentioned a tough defense 488 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: he's facing in Chicago, I expect a lowish scoring game. 489 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: I still think he's a top ten back, but it 490 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising if he scored outside of the top 491 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: five this week. So that's my perspective on him. Sean, 492 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: give us the running back prop. 493 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 5: So this is assuming Camon Bolag is out this week. 494 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure he's gonna he suffered a seasonaming injury. 495 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 5: I haven't seen any confirmation of that yet. But assuming 496 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 5: he's out this week and Patrick Laird takes over the 497 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 5: backfield for the Dolphins, I want to do his rushing, 498 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 5: pluster siving yards prop. They're at the Jets this week, 499 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 5: and I have it fifty nine and a half right now. 500 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: I'll take the under, considering that he's a Dolphins running 501 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: back with the Dolphins playing for the Dolphins, So yeah, 502 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:13,200 Speaker 1: I'll take the under. 503 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 4: I'll go over. I have him a couple of yards over, 504 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 4: but I should mention that most of that is coming 505 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 4: through the air. I think he'll have success in that area. 506 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: The Dolphins are just they're in need of guys that 507 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 4: throw the football too, And I think Lard is a 508 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 4: much better player than than Boage and we'll catch some football. 509 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 4: If he played about sixty percent of the snaps last week, 510 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 4: I expect that could tick up. And also the Jets 511 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 4: are among the league leaders and catches allowed to running backs. 512 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I liked your projected line for him last night. 513 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 5: I'm on the same page. Eight carries for zero yards 514 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 5: with eleven catches for one hundred and two I mean. 515 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, the poor man's McCaffrey. 516 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 2: I gotta go with the under I just don't trust 517 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: that coaching staff. We're at the end of the year 518 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 2: right now. If I'm gonna go like you you want 519 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: to win like a million dollars and play like the 520 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 2: twenty dollars GPP, I would go with like a guy 521 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 2: like Miles Gaskin, you know who like has even like 522 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 2: heard his name talked about all year long. Just when 523 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 2: you think like you have it all figured out and 524 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: they're going to play the poor man's McCaffrey, it's going 525 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: to be Miles Gaskin out there getting like all the 526 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: touches with Lard playing a little bit on passing down, 527 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: So I'm going to take the under. I just don't 528 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 2: I don't trust it that you know, Lard's just going 529 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 2: to be like the full time guy. 530 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: That's pretty much where I am. I think there's just 531 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: too much uncertainty with that backfield. I mean, I could 532 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: see it happening, but I'll look to fade it. Joining 533 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: us to talk to some NFL DFS is Peter Jennings 534 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: Akacs Ram eighty eight, a two time DFS World champion 535 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: and co founder of Fantasy Lapse, Pete how Is Week thirteen. 536 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 6: Week thirteen and Well ended up shipping the Thunderdome over 537 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 6: on DraftKings had a good tournament lineup over there. Season 538 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 6: long didn't go nearly as well, but still good week. 539 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 6: The Dolphins Eagles game paid off and my bagss regret 540 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 6: was not listening to you and getting some Peyton Barber shares. 541 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 6: But ready for a Week fourteen. 542 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, anytime you can play Peyton Barber when it makes 543 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: no sense, you pretty much have to. So yeah, let's 544 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: get into week fourteen. How are you approaching cash games 545 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: and GPPs? 546 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 6: Initially it was looking like we might have a ton 547 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 6: of just huge chalk with Madison playing over Cook, but 548 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 6: it sounds like Cook's gonna play. Now. We got Peter 549 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 6: Oversett's boy layered as one of the chalk plays, So 550 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 6: I'm going to differentiate by getting out some of this 551 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 6: thin value. Potentially in tournaments and in cash they're probably 552 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 6: gonna be in the strong plays, but pretty open week 553 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 6: and should be really exciting. 554 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about quarterbacks. Who are you looking 555 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: at right now? 556 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, the quarterback that I definitely want exposure to, who's 557 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 6: at the top of my model and just seems like 558 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 6: a smash play is Deshaun Watson. I know that Broncos 559 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 6: a good defense on paper, some still some really good 560 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 6: players Von Miller, Chris Harris, and some other guys Shelby 561 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 6: Harris shout out to Shelby. But this Houston team has 562 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 6: a huge total, and Deshaun Watson's been awesome. He's only 563 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 6: sixty five hundred on DraftKings. You know, he's nine hundred 564 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 6: cheaper than Lamar Jackson is going into Buffalo. So he's 565 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 6: the clear cut, safe, high upside quarterback that I like 566 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 6: quite a bit. If I'm not playing Deshaun Watson, you know, 567 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 6: it gets tricky because guys like Jameis Winston, Sam Darnold. 568 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 6: I like quite a bit for both those guys. They're 569 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 6: in similar price ranges to Deshaun Watson, so that part's 570 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 6: tricky if you want to go all the way down. 571 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: I think Derek Carr is interesting and Ryan Tannehill is 572 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 6: not getting enough credit for how well he's played, so 573 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 6: that that game for savings makes sense to me. 574 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. The one nice thing about Watson is that you 575 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: saw him just have a slate best week last week 576 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: going against the Patriots, who hold opposing quarterbacks to the 577 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: fewest fantasy points per game, so we know that regardless 578 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: of opponent, he has slate winning upside. Let's talk about 579 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: their running backs. Who do you like there? 580 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, I mentioned him already, but Patrick Laird is 581 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 6: rating pretty well. He's cheap, and with Blage going to 582 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 6: the IR it looks like Lard is going to be 583 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 6: the main guy. They just signed Zelle, so he's writing well, 584 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 6: the Jets have been stingy versus the run, a lot 585 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,239 Speaker 6: easier to pass against, but I might set up well 586 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 6: for Laird, who certainly can be used in the passing game. 587 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 6: Then you have a lot of middling options. I think 588 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 6: Devonte Freeman makes sense at fifty four hundred, certainly could 589 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 6: go to James White, although that feels a little chasy 590 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 6: and it's always hard to predict New England running backs. 591 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 6: Jamal Williams is another guy who's rating pretty well currently, 592 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 6: so is Aaron Jones, so deciphering that backfield will be challenging. 593 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 6: I'm still going to be buying some Alvin Kamara shares, 594 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 6: even at seven K, hoping for touchdown regression. It would 595 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: be funny if he finally got it in against San Francisco, 596 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 6: who's been a great defense all year, but they have 597 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 6: been more susceptible against the run recently, and I think 598 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 6: Alvin Kamara makes quite a bit of sense. 599 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: If you're going to pay up at wide receiver, who 600 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: do you like? 601 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, wide receiver Michael Thomas off a really disappointed Thanksgiving game, 602 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 6: I think makes a ton of sense. He before that 603 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 6: game is the worst game have been sixteen Fantasy points, 604 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: and I think against San Francisco they're gonna have to 605 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 6: pepper him. So I like him, like DeAndre Hopkins, like 606 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 6: Mike to finally go off. But if you're looking to 607 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 6: save there's some options I think are interesting. I think 608 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 6: the Jets receivers make a lot of sense. Robbie Anderson, 609 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 6: Jamison Crowder, assuming Varius Thomas I'm sure will be questionable 610 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 6: again as in there, I think he's fine, and then 611 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 6: going a little bit down the board. You know, there's 612 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 6: some guys that are tricky to pull the trigger on, 613 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 6: but for tournaments, someone specifically like Mike Williams going against 614 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 6: the Jaguars have been a really bad defense over the 615 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 6: second half of the season. I think he makes sense 616 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 6: at forty five hundred Kenny Stills to stack with Deshaun 617 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 6: Watson only thirty seven hundred is another play, and man, 618 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 6: DJ Shark burned me last week, but I'll be buying 619 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 6: his talent. We'll see This Chargers defense has gotten a 620 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 6: lot healthier, but he's still popping someone in my models. 621 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: You mentioned Mike Williams on pace for over eight thousand 622 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: receiving yards no touchdowns so far after eleven touchdowns last year, 623 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: so at some point you figure there has to be 624 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: some regression. Let's talk about tight ends. Who do you 625 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: like there? 626 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, George Kittle is my top tight end is week, 627 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 6: and I was wrong about the top tight ends last week. 628 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 6: But I'm going back to him, George kittle love him 629 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 6: against New Orleans. I think they're gonna have to throw more. 630 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 6: The downside with George Kittles is such a great blocker 631 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 6: that they use him to block in the running game 632 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 6: so often, but when he runs routes, I just love 633 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 6: his talent. Hunter Henry, if you're gonna go away from 634 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 6: Mike Williams, I think makes a lot of sense. And 635 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 6: then for cheap if greg Olsen gets cleared, that's a 636 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 6: good matchup against Atlanta. I think that certainly makes sense. 637 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 6: And then Vance McDonald, if you're gonna do the flow 638 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 6: chart every titand's gone off against Arizona. It seems they've 639 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 6: been awful overs that position, and Vance McDonald forty three 640 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 6: hundred DraftKings think makes sense. 641 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: All right, are there any potential under the radar stacks 642 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: that have your eye right now? Yeah? 643 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 6: It's tricky, you know, early in the week, it's kind 644 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 6: of interesting trying to gauge ownership. I will say Ryan 645 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 6: Tannehill and maybe he'll end up being a little chokier 646 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 6: than I think now, but he has been awesome since 647 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 6: starting for this Tennessee team. And I like a lot 648 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 6: of the pass catchers for the Titans, specifically Brown, who's 649 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 6: been just a ridiculous athlete so far. We knew that 650 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 6: coming in, but it's really paid dividends. Core Davis Still, 651 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 6: you know, a high rated player who struggled with injuries 652 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 6: and consistency, but he's only thirty nine hundred. I really 653 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 6: like stacks with Tannehill, and if you want to get sneaky, 654 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 6: you don't even have to stack him up because he 655 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 6: has so much rushing upside. So I'm going to look 656 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 6: to that Titans offense and potentially piving off Derrick Henry 657 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 6: and leveraging that passing game. 658 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: All Right, that was Peter Jennings with his DFS thoughts 659 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: for Week fourteen. Okay, let's get to the wide receivers. 660 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: The three guys at the top of our rankings right now, 661 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas, Davante Adams, Chris Godwin, Nelson. Is there anyone 662 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: else that you would want to put in the top tier. 663 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna say that I like DJ Moore a 664 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 2: lot this week. I could see him being like that again. 665 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: I like Kyle Allen this week. In that game, I'm 666 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 2: fading McCaffrey, so it kind of makes sense for me 667 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: to want to see, you know a guy like DJ Moore, 668 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 2: Curtis Samuel do Well, but DJ Moore is just he's 669 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 2: getting like wide receiver one usage right now the last 670 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: few weeks. So he's the guy that I think could 671 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: be a top five wide receiver and could challenge those guys. 672 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, we are right there with you. I have him 673 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: ranked number five. Raybond has him ranked number two, So 674 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: we are pretty on him this week. And to put 675 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: some perspective on this with the yardage that DJ Moore 676 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: is getting as a twenty two year old, here are 677 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 1: his historical comps, ranging from the high end to the 678 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: low end. Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, DeAndre Hopkins, Mike Evans, 679 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: Juju Amari, Alan Robinson, Kran Robinson, and Michael Clayton. Like 680 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: some of those guys you kind of never heard of 681 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: because they had just one flash season. For the most part, 682 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,480 Speaker 1: that is a list of elite guys like DJ Moore 683 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: is making the leap right now what he's done since 684 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: the week seven by when the team like clearly looked 685 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: like at what they were doing and said, you know what, 686 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: we need to get this guy the ball much more 687 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: than we are, Like what he's done since then has 688 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: been wide receiver one caliber production. So we are right 689 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: there with you, Raymond. What do you think because you're 690 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 1: the one who's highest on him this year. 691 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I like so, And this surprised me because you 692 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 4: kind of talked about, you know, since the buy, they've 693 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 4: been trying to get it more involved. We're now in 694 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,919 Speaker 4: we're done with twelve games in the season and DJ 695 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 4: Moore's median for targets is ten. His median not the average, 696 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 4: which can get you know, obviously skewed by a couple 697 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 4: of big games, but the median full of full season 698 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 4: for more is ten targets, and that's really hard to 699 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: beat and hard to sustain this late into the season. 700 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm right there with you, guys. And I 701 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 4: think the potential absence of Greg Olsen could open up 702 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 4: even more looks and we're seeing that a lot with 703 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 4: That's the takeaway that I've started to notice with these younger, 704 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 4: unproven quarterbacks, they are targeting their number one receivers and 705 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 4: maybe they're not as good at making progressions and going 706 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 4: through all the reads. But like we've seen it with 707 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 4: Courtland Sutton, We've seen it with Galladay and Jones, like, 708 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 4: the guys that are supposed to get the ball are 709 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 4: still getting the ball even when you have you know, 710 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: these kind of quarterbacks you look at and say, maybe 711 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 4: they're not the greatest. So yeah, I think you keep 712 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 4: writing DJ Moore here. 713 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: Raymond, who else are you high on besides DJ Moore? 714 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 4: DeVante Parker continues to be a guy that listen, talk 715 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 4: about Faden, Patrick Laird. Somebody has to get targets on 716 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 4: this Dolphins team. And for the past really, since Ryan 717 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: Fitzpatrick has taken back over, it's been Parker. The Jets 718 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 4: are one of per football outside is one of eight 719 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,800 Speaker 4: teams in the league allowing at least eighty schedule adjusted 720 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 4: receiving yards per game to opposing number one wide receivers. 721 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 4: So I think Parker, you know, his price is going 722 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,359 Speaker 4: up in DFS. I think maybe some people will get 723 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: scared off. But Ryan Fitzpatrick, we've seen this out of 724 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: him before. I mean, he had that kind of monster 725 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,240 Speaker 4: stretch in Tampa Bay where he's putting up ridiculous fantasy numbers, 726 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 4: you know, just thrown chucking it downfield and right now 727 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 4: saying things going on with with with him in Parker 728 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 4: and it just helps that they really have hardly anyone 729 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 4: else to go to at this point. So I'm expecting 730 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 4: another big week at a Parker. 731 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm looking at the rankings right now. This 732 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: is hilarious. So I made the ranking last night. I 733 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: have Parker at nineteen. I wanted to see what Corner 734 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: had his ranking at. He had him at fourteen. I'm like, 735 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 1: all right, maybe I'm a little bit low on him. 736 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 1: And then this morning I look and Raymond has DeVante 737 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: Parker at number four, and It's like, all right, well, 738 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: maybe maybe I'm a little low on him. 739 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 4: Maybe fine targets like at this point of the year, 740 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 4: I just like love the target kind of the locked 741 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,760 Speaker 4: in targets for these guys like like DJ Moore and 742 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 4: in Parker, like they're seeing consistent double like Parker's been seeing, 743 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 4: you know, double digit targets since Preston Williams went down. 744 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: It's just something that it's a very rare thing. We've 745 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 4: seen it with Devonte Adams a bit, but it's one 746 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 4: of those rare things that you don't you don't get 747 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 4: too often. So just just kind of following the targets here. 748 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean, who are you wrong? High on. 749 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 5: So I mentioned earlier on the show, but Robbie Anderson 750 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 5: at home against the Dolphins at fifty one hundred, I think, 751 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 5: you know, it's always this time year that he comes 752 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,240 Speaker 5: alive and just we can never overlook them when that happens. 753 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 5: And you know, on the other side of the all, 754 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 5: Ry Fitzpatrick is playing out his mind, has kept the 755 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 5: other team in it enough, and you know that helps 756 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 5: boost the other team's passing game. So I think some 757 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 5: Darnold Robbie Anderson, Devonte Parker game stacks would be pretty 758 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 5: nice here. So I'll be targeting that game pretty heavily. 759 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 5: And then Will Fuller I always mention it. I love 760 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 5: buying low on Will Fuller. You know, he's coming off 761 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 5: a bad game last week against Patriots, although he did 762 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 5: you know, he had that thirty five yard touchdown that 763 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 5: got overturned. But he's on the cheaper side at fifty 764 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 5: five hundred at home against the Broncos, where I'm guessing 765 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 5: Chris Harris will be chasing DeAndre Hopkins around. So this 766 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 5: is a potential blow up spot for Fuller where he 767 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,399 Speaker 5: could be lower on. So these are always spots where 768 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 5: I think it's it's wise to invest a bate in 769 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 5: will Fuller. 770 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: How many almost touchdowns does will Fuller have this year? 771 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: Like at least at least yeah, maybe six. 772 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,960 Speaker 1: Because I think he's he's dropped or he's dropped or 773 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: hasn't completed the catch for four of them, and then 774 00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,880 Speaker 1: there were a couple where he was tackled at the 775 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: one yard line. I mean, it's just it's it's ridiculous. 776 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 1: One guy I'm relatively high on is Cooper Cup. I 777 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: think he has a good matchup in the slot this 778 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 1: week against Seattle, who's starting a Keem King now and 779 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: he's you know, kind of like just all around defensive back, 780 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: you know, safety slash slot corner. I think it's a 781 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: pretty good matchup. So interested in Cooper Cup, there Nelson, 782 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: who is someone or a couple of players you're relatively 783 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: down on? 784 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: Guys that I'm down on. I was actually gonna mention 785 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: just one more guy that I think is kind of sneaky, 786 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 2: if that's okay in DFS is Jacoby Myers, because when 787 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: I looked at that game, Brady was kind of like 788 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: you could kind of read his lips that he was 789 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 2: really frustrated with his receivers in that game and the communication, 790 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 2: and that's actually been talked about now with Josh McDaniels 791 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: and through the media, and I actually think that Jacoby 792 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: Myers is going to be kind of his go to 793 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 2: guy with the Chiefs. Maybe focusing on Edelman is like, 794 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: you know, hey, we got to take Edelman away and 795 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: then he's got nobody, So just wanted to mention him. 796 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 2: But as far as guys that I'm I'm probably not 797 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: high on that, you know, everyone else compared to the 798 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: public Michael Thomas, I'm probably not going to be, you know, 799 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 2: playing him, even though he's a monster. So you know, 800 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 2: between him and McCaffrey that's probably a little contrarian considering 801 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,799 Speaker 2: their usage. So He's He's one guy I'm not high on. 802 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: And then probably the other guy not really interested in 803 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 2: is Sutton. People are gonna be a little biased where 804 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 2: he's just been getting it done, had a big game, 805 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 2: two touchdowns last week. He'll be a guy that I'll 806 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: probably just leave alone. Don't really have anything to like 807 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 2: back it up, you know, football wise, necessarily, but just 808 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 2: based on his price and everything, I'm probably not interested 809 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 2: in him. 810 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: All right, Sean, what about you? Who are you relatively 811 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:12,520 Speaker 1: low on. 812 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 5: So I was going to say it was relatively low 813 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 5: on Tyreek Hill, and I saw that you guys have 814 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 5: so I have him six right now, which is pretty low, 815 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 5: and you guys have him thirteenth and nineteenth. So I 816 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 5: don't even know if I could say he's low, but 817 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,239 Speaker 5: I haven't seen ECR yet. But you know, I was 818 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 5: going to say his price of eighty one hundred is 819 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 5: insane on DK. I think if just looking at medium projections, 820 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,360 Speaker 5: he is definitely not worth that price. He's one of 821 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 5: the lowest plus minuses on in the Fancy Labs models 822 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 5: right now. But having said that, anytime you can get 823 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 5: Tyri Hill, think he's going to be pretty low on 824 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 5: this week. Anytime you can get him low owned, I 825 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 5: think he still has the massive upside despite the tough matchups, 826 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 5: so I think it's impossible to fade him completely in GPPs, 827 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 5: but certainly at that price you don't want any part 828 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 5: of him in like cash games or anything like that. 829 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 5: So while I'm low on, and I still think he 830 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:05,160 Speaker 5: has the upside to warrant that price, just a few shares. 831 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 1: Rayvon, who are you relatively low on the Chiefs Receivers? 832 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots. 833 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 4: Even if they get you know, exploited a little bit 834 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 4: on defense and have a bad game, they tend to 835 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 4: kind of make you spread it around. So low on Tyreek, 836 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 4: low on Sammy Watkins as well. Just I get the 837 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: contrarian aspect of it, but I think there are better 838 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 4: ways to kind of go about being contrarian this week. 839 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 4: Higher upsideways. Another guy who had who had a big game, 840 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 4: and I was pretty high in him last week, But 841 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 4: Robert Woods I'm a little lower on then the consensus 842 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 4: this week. I just think that he's been a guy 843 00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 4: that hasn't really been able to find the end zone. 844 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 4: And I think last week it benefited him that that 845 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 4: Brandon Cooks was back and taking some attention with Patrick Peterson. 846 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: That won't always be the case, and we're starting to 847 00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,719 Speaker 4: see Cooks his target share take down into that it's 848 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 4: like thirteen percent, and I think that'll start evening out, 849 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 4: and it'll probably come at the expense of Woods because 850 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,479 Speaker 4: we've seen Cooper Cup kind of locked in today's target 851 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 4: sand If Gerald Everett is back, that complicates matters even more. 852 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: So. 853 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 4: I think this is a week where I'm going to 854 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 4: be low, not touching too much Woods. 855 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: One guy I'm staying away from is Stefan Diggs. He's 856 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: a boombust guy, as you know we've seen throughout his career. 857 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,319 Speaker 1: He has a tough matchup against Darius Slay and as 858 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, as a home favorite, pretty big home favorite. 859 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: I could see the Vikings looking to run the ball 860 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: and just not really even needing to factor in Stefon Diggs. 861 00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 1: You know, we saw a similar situation last year in 862 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: Week sixteen. The Vikings won by almost twenty points, and 863 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 1: you know, Diggs had just two receptions for ten yards. 864 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 1: It's just a situation where they might not need to 865 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: use him, and he has the tougher matchup one on 866 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: one with Darius Slay, so probably staying away from him. 867 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,320 Speaker 1: Sean give us the wide receiver profit. 868 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 5: So this might be the first week and months that 869 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 5: I've had Michael Thomas below one hundred receiving yards matchup 870 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 5: at home against the forty nine ers. So I want 871 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 5: to hear where you guys are out on this. But 872 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 5: right now I have his receiving prop at ninety two 873 00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 5: and a half. 874 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 1: That's a good number. I have the projection actually for 875 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: the over, but I'm going to be pessimistic and still say. 876 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 3: Under I have him. 877 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think that's a really good line because 878 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 4: I have him at a little over ninety four, So 879 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 4: a couple of yards over, I will go over, just 880 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 4: because every time we count out Michael Thomas, it's he 881 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 4: just puts up a monster game, and I think the 882 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 4: Saints may actually struggle in this matchup overall. But that 883 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 4: actually helps Thomas gamescript wise, kind of in the same 884 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,240 Speaker 4: way that you know, it kind of helped DeVante Adams 885 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,680 Speaker 4: rack up the target. And if Thomas racks up targets, 886 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 4: you know his catchery is north of eighty percent, He's 887 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 4: likely to reel them in. 888 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 2: He was a guy that I was going in that 889 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,759 Speaker 2: I was a little bit down on. So I'm going 890 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 2: to say that that number is probably right on the money. 891 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 2: I'm going to take the under though on it. I 892 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 2: think San Francisco is pretty tough against the wide receiver. 893 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 2: Sherman's probably going to be matched up with them quite 894 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: a bit. I'm not sure if he when he moves 895 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 2: into the slot, what exactly they're gonna do. But I 896 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 2: gotta think that Peyton usually in tough matchups, Kamara seems 897 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: to be the guy that kind of comes out of nowhere, 898 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 2: and then in like easy matchups, Kamara does nothing. It's 899 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: really frustrating. So I'm gonna say that it's gonna be 900 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 2: more of a Kamara game mixing you know, Lat Murray, 901 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,319 Speaker 2: and it's gonna be some like random like Taysom Hill, 902 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 2: you know. So I think Thomas is going to be 903 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 2: like the guy that is not disappointed necessarily because I 904 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,880 Speaker 2: could see him catching like, you know, nine for like 905 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 2: seventy five eighty something like that, So I think that 906 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: number is like right on the money yards wise. 907 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the tight ends. The three 908 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 1: guys at the top of our rankings are George Kittle, 909 00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, and Darren Waller, and then obviously Ryderneath that, 910 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,000 Speaker 1: there are a number of other good tight ends who 911 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: might have their own issues. Hunter, Henry zach Ertz, Austin Hooper, Nelson, 912 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: any guys that you think should be in that top 913 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: tier along with Kittle, Kelsey, and Waller. 914 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Vance McDonald, and for no other reason 915 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 2: than he hasn't done anything all year, but it's Arizona. 916 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 2: Everyone gets it done against Arizona. So I'm gonna say 917 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 2: you got to play him. If it becomes an owner, 918 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,720 Speaker 2: it could become an ownership issue. Though if it looks 919 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,920 Speaker 2: like towards the end of the week that he's going 920 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 2: to be super high owned, probably would actually fade him. 921 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 2: So it's kind of funny. Right now, I'm super high 922 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 2: on him because it's the premium matchup for tight ends, 923 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,440 Speaker 2: But if, like for whatever reason, he's going to be 924 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 2: like thirty percent owned, I'm probably going to get off him. 925 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 2: But he's the guy that I would probably put in 926 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: that group with those guys. 927 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I imagine he will be popular just 928 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: based on as you mentioned, the matchup and then specifically 929 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,759 Speaker 1: what Higbee did last week. I think people will kind 930 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: of look that and think, well, if Higbee could do it, 931 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, almost anyone could do it. But he is, 932 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: you know, priced up relative to where he has been. 933 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: But still people might find a way to talk themselves 934 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: into him. Anyone else you are relatively high on this week. 935 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 2: Probably Ian Thomas at minimum priced basically so with Greg 936 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 2: Olsen if he can't pass concussion protocol, he would be 937 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 2: a guy that seems like pretty easy to just throw it, 938 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,839 Speaker 2: put in your lineup and make the other pieces fit. 939 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,880 Speaker 2: If you're going to pay up at wide receiver or 940 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 2: something like that. 941 00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. I like that one. Sean, 942 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: who are you relatively high on the pricing? This week's 943 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: pretty bizarre. I don't really like many of the higher 944 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: end tight ends. I think the mid tier guys are overpriced, 945 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: and I don't like any of the scrubs this week. 946 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: Nelson's right. If Greg Olsen is out, I'll probably have 947 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 1: a lot of Ian Thomas. But the one guy you're 948 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: the top that sticks out to me, he's Hunter Henry. 949 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 5: He's only fifty one hundred and he's at the top 950 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,239 Speaker 5: of the blobs models and plus minus right now. He's 951 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,760 Speaker 5: coming off a bad but you know, that's the nature 952 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 5: of the tight end position. If we were to just 953 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 5: fade every every time that's had a bad game, we 954 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 5: wouldn't have anybody left. So I expected to bounce back. 955 00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 5: He ran a route on eighty one percent of the snap, 956 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 5: so it wasn't like he was staying in the block 957 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 5: or anything. So I look for him and bounce back 958 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 5: against the Jaguars this weekend. Fifty one Hunter is way 959 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 5: too cheap. He's He's almost one thousand dollars cheaper. Than 960 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,040 Speaker 5: some of the the top tier tier guys, which I 961 00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 5: consider him to be in. So I'll probably have a 962 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,879 Speaker 5: ton of Henry this week, just just based on where 963 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 5: the pricing is sort of sending me. 964 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 1: Sean, It's kind of funny, like you mentioned, you don't 965 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: really like the pricing for the top guys, you don't 966 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 1: like pricing for the middle tier guys, and then you 967 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: don't like the guys who are low priced. Doesn't that 968 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,840 Speaker 1: mean that they probably got pricing right? Yeah, well they 969 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: relatively speaking, I. 970 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 5: Mean they only got Hunter Henry wrong. That's basically it's 971 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 5: like a price funnel situation. 972 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris, who are you relatively high on? 973 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 4: I like, no a fan for the Broncos this week 974 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,839 Speaker 4: going against Houston. This is a matchup where Houston's their 975 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 4: their weakness is really over the middle of the field. 976 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:11,120 Speaker 4: If you look at DVOA, they are twice as bad. 977 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,960 Speaker 4: So there's a thirty six percent gap in DVOA with 978 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 4: the Texans in last place on passes over the short middle, 979 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 4: you know, first as the second place team. So it's 980 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,359 Speaker 4: just been a situation, a source spot for them, and 981 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 4: I think, especially with Sutton blowing up these past few weeks, 982 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: you know, they're going to have to kind of account 983 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 4: for him first and fans. Since Emmanuel Sanders was traded, 984 00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 4: he has been getting a over a twenty three percent 985 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 4: target chair, So. 986 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:45,399 Speaker 6: A lots to like here. 987 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 4: And I always like to look out for young guys 988 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,240 Speaker 4: with some talent this type of year, especially athletic talent 989 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,919 Speaker 4: for breakout performances late in the year. Put it together 990 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 4: a little more and these you know he's got, you 991 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 4: know everyone the defenders going to be more and down too, 992 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 4: So like a sneaky spot for for no fan. 993 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:07,920 Speaker 1: All right, Nelson, who are you relatively low on? 994 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 2: It's probably Mark Andrews. Again, it's just Buffalo has like 995 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 2: been really I don't have the statistics in front of me, 996 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 2: but just watching the games, Buffalo just seems like they're 997 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: they're elite against tight ends, So that would be a 998 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 2: guy that I would be fading. 999 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,040 Speaker 1: Sean, What about you? 1000 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 5: So I'm fitting all these forty five hundred guys like 1001 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 5: Jack Doyle, Ryan Griffin, Dancwer, Donald Kyle Rudolph. You know, 1002 00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 5: their projections aren't terrible, but like I mentioned earlier, they're 1003 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 5: just over priced this week at tight end, it doesn't 1004 00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,880 Speaker 5: really make sense to spend up for sort of touchdown 1005 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 5: dependent guys that have a pretty low floor still, so 1006 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 5: I'd be more willing to spend down for like a 1007 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 5: Mike Eseki at four K if I'm going to go 1008 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 5: that route. So I think all those guys are gonna 1009 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 5: be over on this week and I'm just fading them completely. 1010 00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 4: Like it, Raybond, what do you think I mean relative 1011 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 4: to the field, I don't think I'm gonna have Travis 1012 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:02,919 Speaker 4: Kelcey as high. 1013 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 1: I have him as my tight end four right now. 1014 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,000 Speaker 4: I think you still have to respect the New England defense, 1015 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 4: even though if they've had if they have shown some 1016 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,360 Speaker 4: chinks in the armor, and if you look back like 1017 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 4: they're going to prioritize Hill and Kelsey, and they've been 1018 00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 4: good about taking you know, or at least limiting not 1019 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 4: just one but two, you know, top options because of 1020 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 4: course they have Gilmour who can who can do so 1021 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 4: such good work, you know, on one player. So in 1022 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 4: the AFC Championship game, Kelsey got a touchdown, but he 1023 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 4: only caught three passes for twenty three yards. So you're 1024 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 4: kind of treading you know, den Ice there if he 1025 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,799 Speaker 4: doesn't if he doesn't cash in on that score and 1026 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:44,040 Speaker 4: then in the in the regular season matchup, five catches 1027 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 4: for sixty one scoreless yards. So not not not really 1028 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 4: a smash spot for Kelsey. And I think, you know, again, 1029 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 4: it is like you guys said, it's pretty ugly slate. 1030 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,920 Speaker 4: But I think a lot of the other stud tight 1031 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 4: ends have just as much upside as Kelsey this week. 1032 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: Sure, the tight end prop for this week is Travis Kelce. 1033 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm wondering, as Raybond was talking, how much did you 1034 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: adjust the level? 1035 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1036 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,520 Speaker 5: Also, and Nelson made some good points about potentially, you know, 1037 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:14,359 Speaker 5: having Gilmour cover him, so I think Nelson would be 1038 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 5: sort of leaning towards the ender as well. So I 1039 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 5: bumped him down a few yards. I'm just trying to 1040 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 5: get it right. I mean, I'm not trying to be sneaky. 1041 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 5: This is a tough projection to get right this week. 1042 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 5: So yeah, so right now I have it after all 1043 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,320 Speaker 5: my adjustments. I have it at sixty four and a half. 1044 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 5: I think that's where sportsbooks will have it this week. 1045 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,880 Speaker 4: I have it at sixty three, so I think, again, 1046 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,879 Speaker 4: great line doing taking the ender. 1047 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 1: I have it at sixty six, so I think you're 1048 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 1: you're there I'll take the over, but I think it's 1049 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: pretty close. Now. 1050 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,719 Speaker 4: Could somebody tell me who how this backfield is going 1051 00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 4: to break out in Kansas City? 1052 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 3: No? I mean Damian Williams is questionable still, right? Or 1053 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:56,880 Speaker 3: is he? Is he looking good to go? 1054 00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,399 Speaker 1: I even practice since I think it's a pain thing, 1055 00:51:59,440 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: so he might not. 1056 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 6: Well. 1057 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,680 Speaker 5: I mean, Darwin Thompson already broke out last game. Hopefully 1058 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 5: we could just see him run out. 1059 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: Nelson, where are you on the prop? 1060 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 2: You know, I think if you want to get action 1061 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 2: on both sides of it, I think you got to 1062 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,799 Speaker 2: drop it into the fives, so like fifty eight and 1063 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 2: a half. Like I think we'd get a lot of 1064 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,960 Speaker 2: action on the over, and I think that would still 1065 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,400 Speaker 2: be really close, and I would still take the under. 1066 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,919 Speaker 2: So you know, I'm taking at sixty four, I'm taking 1067 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,399 Speaker 2: the under. 1068 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: Okay, Nelson, talk a little bit about Arbor Prow. What 1069 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: it is that you guys do there. 1070 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,840 Speaker 2: Arbor Pro is really like brand new, It's it's not 1071 00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:41,560 Speaker 2: really a name that we're trying to get it out there. 1072 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: A friend of mine is created Arbor Pro. His name's 1073 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:50,920 Speaker 2: Derek Pearson. I've partnered with him in season long fantasy 1074 00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 2: football through the years. His vision was to try to 1075 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 2: create a website to try to cater to season long players. 1076 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 2: What we've done is we've kind of piggybacked off of it, 1077 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 2: and I created a mentorship program. And with that mentorship program, 1078 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 2: what I'm doing it was application based, so it wasn't 1079 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 2: like just hey, sign up, we'll take your money. It 1080 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,640 Speaker 2: was actually I sent out an application to see like 1081 00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 2: what guys were looking for and how they wanted to 1082 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:25,239 Speaker 2: get better at fantasy football. And then I picked who 1083 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 2: I wanted to mentor, and I only wanted to pick 1084 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:32,640 Speaker 2: a select few. It's taken off and you know, I 1085 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,840 Speaker 2: get the email of the guy. You know, I've sucked ass, 1086 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 2: you know in my local leagues, you know, for years, 1087 00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 2: and and my friends have always made fun of me. 1088 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 2: And like this year, I made the playoffs and I'm 1089 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 2: gonna you know, I'm gonna punk them, you know, so 1090 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 2: like it's been really cool. I enjoyed that part of it, 1091 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,160 Speaker 2: besides being you know, a fantasy player, is I do 1092 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 2: like helping others, and I do get satisfaction out of, 1093 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 2: you know, that feedback of you know, those guys doing well, 1094 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 2: so you know, try to make them better fantasy players. 1095 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,200 Speaker 1: All Right, Nelson, thanks for jumping on the show with us. 1096 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:05,120 Speaker 2: All right, thank you. 1097 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: Follow him on Twitter at the Underscore Franchise twelve that 1098 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: is going to do it for this episode of the 1099 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 1: Action Network podcast. 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