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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger as a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Hey everybody, it is week

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Speaker 1: nine of the NFL season, and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Season with Peter Schreger. I am Peter Schreger. I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my producer, Aaron Wong Kaufman. Aaron, how we doing,

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Speaker 1: my friend? Pretty good man. It's another another good Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 1: and I'm excited for the show today. Yeah, Tuesday morning.

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Speaker 1: So last night was Halloween. Real quick, I gotta say

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Speaker 1: I love Halloween. I don't. I don't remember liking it

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Speaker 1: in my twenties. I wasn't the guy who now that

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Speaker 1: I have a kid, like it is the most fun,

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Speaker 1: pure joy, electric feeling to be out there on the streets,

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Speaker 1: like in a neighborhood trick or treating, and I think about, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, how much fun these kids are having, how

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Speaker 1: pure it all is. And then I think back to

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Speaker 1: my twenties and early thirties when I was a single

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Speaker 1: guy having to like get dressed up and be creative

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Speaker 1: and go and try to you know, have this like

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Speaker 1: a drunken night or whatever it was. Aaron, where are

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Speaker 1: you in your life? Cycle right now? And where's your

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Speaker 1: take on Halloween? You know, I've been all over. I

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Speaker 1: had a couple great Halloween. So we're all about the

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Speaker 1: costume and like going out and doing stuff. I think

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Speaker 1: right before COVID, my girlfriend and I went to a

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Speaker 1: party that was like two things parties, so you had

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Speaker 1: to be a combination of two things. So my favorite

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Speaker 1: just thought was like an incredible combo of things. We

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Speaker 1: went as Interpol jumpers, so like the band Interpol and

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Speaker 1: the Olympic sport pole jumping. Yeah that is so Brooklyn dude. Yeah, yes,

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Speaker 1: so some fun things like that. But this year I

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Speaker 1: didn't dress up at all. This year we went to

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Speaker 1: the in four Green Park, the Pupkin Dog cost contests.

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Speaker 1: Pumpkin Dog Contest. Are you ready for four downs? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's do it? Man? All right? First down near and

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Speaker 1: dear to my heart, who's the MVP through the first

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Speaker 1: eight weeks? Do you think? Okay? So it's like kind

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Speaker 1: of like the halfway point of the season. I know

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Speaker 1: they added weeks and then we say there's by way.

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Speaker 1: I always look at going into week nine as the

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Speaker 1: halfway point. I think Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes are

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Speaker 1: the leaders in the MVP conversation, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: spend this first down putting out a third name. Gino

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Speaker 1: smit the service of MVP love. Let me get into

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Speaker 1: it here. Seattle has won four of their last five games.

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Speaker 1: Their only loss in that stretch, of course, was to

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Speaker 1: the Saints in Week five. They have one double digit

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Speaker 1: and you look at what Gino is doing. It's like

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Speaker 1: this great soothing character of all these young players who've

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Speaker 1: talked about their rookies. You go through Kenneth Walker and

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Speaker 1: all rookies. They shouldn't be this good this soon. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got this veteran leader in Gino Smith, who

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Speaker 1: is thirty two years old on the fourth consecutive one

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Speaker 1: year contract with the Seattle Seahawks. He has signed four

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Speaker 1: different one year contracts, three of them to be Russ's backup.

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Speaker 1: One of them to battle with Drew Locke, and what's

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Speaker 1: he done? He has been like everything Shane Waldron's offense

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Speaker 1: could ever ask him to be. He's third in QBR

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Speaker 1: right now. He is right there with Josh Allen and

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Speaker 1: all the different statics statistics. When it comes to completion percentage,

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Speaker 1: he's first in completion percentage, and he's tied for fifth

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Speaker 1: Allen and the bills of this runaway story, and he

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Speaker 1: the conversation Seattle right now. If this playoffs were to begin,

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks would be the three seat in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: Then they got the Raiders who might have thrown the

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Speaker 1: And when you're telling me the next five games are

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Speaker 1: NFC if they're doing that. Gino Smith thirty two year

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Speaker 1: old Gino Smith on a one year contract where three

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Speaker 1: million dollars is in the MVP conversation. All right, second down?

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Speaker 1: Did two approve anything to you on Sunday? Or was

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Speaker 1: that just a bad Lions defense? Well, Aubrey Pleasant, who's

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Speaker 1: I don't think that was just against a bad team.

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Speaker 1: I think Tah is the real deal right now. And

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Speaker 1: they are five and oh in games that Tua has

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Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, we saw you do it against Baltimore

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Speaker 1: early in the season. Can you do it again? Can

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Speaker 1: and most are Tuah is that dude? And I think

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Speaker 1: when Tua was gone and they lost three games, you

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Speaker 1: start to realize, Okay, maybe this isn't just you know,

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Speaker 1: Tua is the quarterback of the Miami Dolphins, not only

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Speaker 1: for the next few years, but for the long term.

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Speaker 1: Look at the numbers, and I'm not a huge stats guy.

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Speaker 1: You know that, Aaron, but he leads the league in

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Speaker 1: passer rating right now with one twelve. Okay, he leads

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Speaker 1: where sometimes it's behind the line of scrimmage and people

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Speaker 1: gets them in position to succeed. Right now, Tyreek, who

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Speaker 1: numbers would decline. Not with Mahomes. He leads the league

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Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty six. Okay, that is how good these

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Speaker 1: forty two receiving yards in his first year in Miami.

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Speaker 1: All right, that would break the record for most receiving

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Speaker 1: Tyreek has something with Tuah. I think Waddle has something

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Speaker 1: locker room. I was hesitant to crown twa too early,

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Speaker 1: honestly I was. And then when he left the lineup

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Speaker 1: all right, let's see. I thought sundays win against Detroit

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Speaker 1: basis of Tuah and on Tuah's arm, and he was

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Speaker 1: sublime in that game. Yeah, all right. Last week we

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Speaker 1: do another one third down. What's the taking off the

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Speaker 1: Second week in a row, We've got a call and

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Speaker 1: I want to go like forty eight hours after it

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Speaker 1: great question because I still don't know this DJ Moore

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Speaker 1: it wasn't on Sunday Football. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: So the exact rule is quite clear. It is only

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Speaker 1: a foul for a player to remove his helmet to

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Speaker 1: And I don't know. It doesn't matter that he returned

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Speaker 1: remove and then Perry Fuel, who is you know, the

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Speaker 1: voice of the refs right now works in the league office,

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Speaker 1: was a very fine job. He came out on Monday

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Speaker 1: Night Football and he was explaining it and he was

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Speaker 1: saying that, well, maybe it was identified wrong because there

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Speaker 1: was other players who took off their helmets. Well in

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Speaker 1: that case, is it not on more? Then you get

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Speaker 1: have been Larry Flint. I don't mean I'm going off

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Speaker 1: script here. It's completely and it was like if it

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Speaker 1: looks like porn, it's porn, right, Like so Dj Moore

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Speaker 1: Emmett Smith rule. It's called from nineteen ninety seven. He

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Speaker 1: clearly rips off his helmet, but it's like almost like

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Speaker 1: his feet in or not. If you're a Panthers fan,

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Speaker 1: you could be very angry right now. And the letter

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Speaker 1: of the law, that guy did not remove his helmet

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Speaker 1: until he was out of the end zone, and there

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Speaker 1: So I like the kid. He's a culture fit for us.

423
00:20:21,866 --> 00:20:23,426
Speaker 1: He's doing a great job, and you know he's gonna

424
00:20:23,426 --> 00:20:25,426
Speaker 1: be one of those foundational pieces that we continue to

425
00:20:25,426 --> 00:20:27,666
Speaker 1: build this thing. Yeah, it's your first draft and you've

426
00:20:27,706 --> 00:20:29,986
Speaker 1: been you know, in scouting since two thousand and one.

427
00:20:30,066 --> 00:20:32,626
Speaker 1: You get this opportunity to draft and out of the gates.

428
00:20:32,666 --> 00:20:34,306
Speaker 1: I know two of them are injured, but like Evan

429
00:20:34,386 --> 00:20:37,986
Speaker 1: Neil was playing well, Daniel Bellinger was playing well. You

430
00:20:38,026 --> 00:20:40,746
Speaker 1: look at that rookie class and for the Giants fans listening, like,

431
00:20:40,866 --> 00:20:43,266
Speaker 1: just give us a little ninety seconds or an elevator

432
00:20:43,306 --> 00:20:45,626
Speaker 1: speech on what you like from this crew and why

433
00:20:45,706 --> 00:20:48,906
Speaker 1: you'll always be close to them as your first draft class. Yeah,

434
00:20:48,986 --> 00:20:50,866
Speaker 1: I like the class a lot. And right now, you know,

435
00:20:50,906 --> 00:20:53,946
Speaker 1: I have my our and let us department do a

436
00:20:54,146 --> 00:20:56,346
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a rookie playtime report each week.

437
00:20:56,386 --> 00:20:58,386
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for years and right now we're

438
00:20:58,386 --> 00:21:01,786
Speaker 1: fourth in the league and rookie playtime so we're having success.

439
00:21:01,786 --> 00:21:04,386
Speaker 1: We're six and two and the rookies are contributing and

440
00:21:04,426 --> 00:21:07,186
Speaker 1: getting valuable experience. And again, there's not a lot of

441
00:21:07,226 --> 00:21:09,066
Speaker 1: rookies that are come in that are you know, instant

442
00:21:09,066 --> 00:21:11,386
Speaker 1: coffee and they have to go through their ups and downs.

443
00:21:11,426 --> 00:21:13,906
Speaker 1: And you know, Evan Neil, I think, you know, take

444
00:21:13,946 --> 00:21:17,066
Speaker 1: out the Dallas game. It was Monday night. Um, all

445
00:21:17,146 --> 00:21:19,026
Speaker 1: eyes were on you and they have a really good

446
00:21:19,066 --> 00:21:21,666
Speaker 1: defensive line and you know, otherwise, I think he's played

447
00:21:21,986 --> 00:21:24,746
Speaker 1: really well. He's our type of guy, smart, tough and dependable.

448
00:21:24,866 --> 00:21:27,426
Speaker 1: Cavan's in the same boat again. He was hurt, you know,

449
00:21:27,466 --> 00:21:30,506
Speaker 1: coming off the knee, and as he's continued to get healthy.

450
00:21:30,586 --> 00:21:32,506
Speaker 1: You know, you've seen you know, the flashes, not just

451
00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:34,426
Speaker 1: versued the run, but the past you know, still the

452
00:21:34,426 --> 00:21:37,066
Speaker 1: play where he ran down you know ETN and the

453
00:21:37,146 --> 00:21:39,586
Speaker 1: Jacksonville game, you know, Wan Dell the same thing. Yeah,

454
00:21:39,626 --> 00:21:43,146
Speaker 1: it's amazing because Evan had an MCL, Cavon had an MCL.

455
00:21:43,226 --> 00:21:45,506
Speaker 1: One Dell had an MCLs. Like I got three guys

456
00:21:45,506 --> 00:21:47,746
Speaker 1: with ACL, so they have been banked up, but one

457
00:21:47,786 --> 00:21:49,906
Speaker 1: Dell had an MCL as well. And you know, now

458
00:21:49,906 --> 00:21:51,226
Speaker 1: that he's come back, he's going to be a big

459
00:21:51,226 --> 00:21:54,386
Speaker 1: part of our offense moving forward. Uh, clear defined plan

460
00:21:54,546 --> 00:21:56,466
Speaker 1: for him, you know, with Daves and his offensive system

461
00:21:56,466 --> 00:21:59,026
Speaker 1: in Kafka. Josh A Zudu started and played one hundred

462
00:21:59,026 --> 00:22:02,146
Speaker 1: percent of snaps for US against Seattle. He's a young

463
00:22:02,186 --> 00:22:04,546
Speaker 1: guard that we really like, you know, bright future for him.

464
00:22:04,866 --> 00:22:08,026
Speaker 1: Cordell Flott, you know, started and played some games. You again,

465
00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:09,666
Speaker 1: he's got a calf right now, he's gonna be back.

466
00:22:09,706 --> 00:22:12,706
Speaker 1: But yeah, Bellinger and Belton fourth round picks that have

467
00:22:12,786 --> 00:22:16,586
Speaker 1: both contributed, both have bright future star startup potential, and

468
00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:19,226
Speaker 1: both of those guys, and then, um, you know the

469
00:22:19,226 --> 00:22:22,146
Speaker 1: fifth round guys, Michael McFadden he played twenty seven snaps

470
00:22:22,146 --> 00:22:24,586
Speaker 1: on defense the other day for us. He's playing well

471
00:22:24,626 --> 00:22:26,466
Speaker 1: and doing special teams. And then you know, we got

472
00:22:26,506 --> 00:22:30,306
Speaker 1: the back three guys that all tour acls, Davidson, mckeithan

473
00:22:30,386 --> 00:22:33,146
Speaker 1: and Beavers who were having all having good camps and

474
00:22:33,706 --> 00:22:35,546
Speaker 1: we were relying on them. So you know, on the

475
00:22:35,546 --> 00:22:37,906
Speaker 1: eleven guys, I'm really excited. You know, they're the right

476
00:22:37,946 --> 00:22:40,906
Speaker 1: type of guys. They're good foundational pieces that you know

477
00:22:40,906 --> 00:22:43,906
Speaker 1: will be contributors, you know, for years to come. Yeah,

478
00:22:44,626 --> 00:22:47,266
Speaker 1: one last question about the current roster. Obviously, I've got

479
00:22:47,266 --> 00:22:49,106
Speaker 1: to ask a Daniel Jones question. What have you seen

480
00:22:49,146 --> 00:22:51,906
Speaker 1: from him so far? And already you know in this market,

481
00:22:51,946 --> 00:22:53,746
Speaker 1: it's what's the long term extension. I'm not going to

482
00:22:53,866 --> 00:22:56,266
Speaker 1: press you on that, but um, you gotta at least

483
00:22:56,266 --> 00:22:59,066
Speaker 1: be pleasantly surprised or not. Maybe you saw this like

484
00:22:59,186 --> 00:23:01,986
Speaker 1: this kid as tough as nails and he's playing really well. Yeah, no,

485
00:23:02,066 --> 00:23:06,066
Speaker 1: he Daniel's tough, he's competitive, another guy who does everything

486
00:23:06,106 --> 00:23:09,426
Speaker 1: he can and to maximize his ability. He's in here early. Again,

487
00:23:09,466 --> 00:23:11,146
Speaker 1: it's our it's our off day, the players are off.

488
00:23:11,346 --> 00:23:13,466
Speaker 1: I saw him in there at seven thirty this morning

489
00:23:13,466 --> 00:23:16,026
Speaker 1: at breakfast. So he's a gym rat. He's always around.

490
00:23:16,506 --> 00:23:18,146
Speaker 1: He's gonna do whatever he can, like I said, to

491
00:23:18,426 --> 00:23:20,946
Speaker 1: maximize his ability. So he's played well. You know, I

492
00:23:20,986 --> 00:23:23,066
Speaker 1: know the big story out there is the fourth quarter comebacks.

493
00:23:23,066 --> 00:23:25,146
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's legit. You know. One of the

494
00:23:25,786 --> 00:23:27,906
Speaker 1: drives I think about was when we were in London

495
00:23:27,906 --> 00:23:30,426
Speaker 1: against Green Bay. We had a fifteen play drive for

496
00:23:30,466 --> 00:23:32,706
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Sa Quan got hurt on the first play,

497
00:23:33,066 --> 00:23:34,986
Speaker 1: so you know, say Quan's out for the other you know,

498
00:23:34,986 --> 00:23:36,706
Speaker 1: he went seventh freight on the drive and that the

499
00:23:36,786 --> 00:23:39,866
Speaker 1: incompletion was a was a throwaway. So he's taking care

500
00:23:39,906 --> 00:23:42,706
Speaker 1: of the football. We're not turning it over. And you know,

501
00:23:42,746 --> 00:23:44,426
Speaker 1: again we've had you know, now we've got a couple

502
00:23:44,506 --> 00:23:48,306
Speaker 1: injuries on the offensive line. We've had some injuries a receiver. Unfortunately,

503
00:23:48,306 --> 00:23:49,986
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a revolving door with with

504
00:23:50,026 --> 00:23:52,026
Speaker 1: who he's throwing too. And that's just kind of where

505
00:23:52,066 --> 00:23:54,026
Speaker 1: we are based on, you know, the salary cap and

506
00:23:54,066 --> 00:23:56,466
Speaker 1: where we were in the off season. But um, you'll

507
00:23:56,506 --> 00:23:58,906
Speaker 1: never hear the guy complained, and you know he's playing

508
00:23:58,906 --> 00:24:01,386
Speaker 1: well for us. I love it. Um, all right, So

509
00:24:01,426 --> 00:24:04,426
Speaker 1: you're the general manager of the New York Football Giants. Dude,

510
00:24:04,946 --> 00:24:07,946
Speaker 1: let's go back to the kid from Indiana who played

511
00:24:07,986 --> 00:24:11,426
Speaker 1: it to Paul and played quarterback and wide receiver. And

512
00:24:11,546 --> 00:24:14,586
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one you get an internship in

513
00:24:14,626 --> 00:24:19,346
Speaker 1: the ticketing department with the Carolina Panthers. Take us through

514
00:24:19,506 --> 00:24:22,906
Speaker 1: what the next step is and how you find yourself

515
00:24:23,426 --> 00:24:27,506
Speaker 1: even in position to enter the scouting world. Yeah, it's

516
00:24:27,786 --> 00:24:31,226
Speaker 1: it's interesting. So it was. It was actually January two thousand,

517
00:24:31,266 --> 00:24:33,666
Speaker 1: so it was my junior year of college. And you know,

518
00:24:33,746 --> 00:24:36,426
Speaker 1: Carolina played a game against Green Bay or maybe it's

519
00:24:36,466 --> 00:24:38,706
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but they had to beat beat New Orleans

520
00:24:38,706 --> 00:24:40,466
Speaker 1: by X amount of points and Green Bay had to

521
00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:41,786
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those deals to get in

522
00:24:41,826 --> 00:24:44,346
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they didn't do it. So my first

523
00:24:44,426 --> 00:24:45,986
Speaker 1: day on the job, the season's over. I'm in the

524
00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:48,066
Speaker 1: ticket office at the time, there was four or five

525
00:24:48,066 --> 00:24:49,786
Speaker 1: people in the ticket office, so it wasn't a big

526
00:24:49,826 --> 00:24:54,746
Speaker 1: staff and I was during like winter break. So yeah, yeah.

527
00:24:54,786 --> 00:24:57,266
Speaker 1: At De Paul University have a great program. It's called

528
00:24:57,266 --> 00:25:00,106
Speaker 1: winter Term. So your freshman year you have to stay

529
00:25:00,186 --> 00:25:02,186
Speaker 1: on campus, which is great. You take one class, it's

530
00:25:02,226 --> 00:25:07,266
Speaker 1: all freshman on campus. It's a blast sophomore, junior, senior year, internship,

531
00:25:07,346 --> 00:25:10,826
Speaker 1: travel abroad, whatever it may be. I would recommend anybody

532
00:25:10,826 --> 00:25:12,306
Speaker 1: that's doing it to do an internship because if you

533
00:25:12,306 --> 00:25:13,746
Speaker 1: want to be an accountant and you go work for

534
00:25:13,866 --> 00:25:16,506
Speaker 1: ers and young for that month and you're like this sucks.

535
00:25:17,026 --> 00:25:19,066
Speaker 1: At least you know your account more year versus before

536
00:25:19,066 --> 00:25:21,266
Speaker 1: you get your degree, right, That's kind of the purpose

537
00:25:21,306 --> 00:25:26,266
Speaker 1: of it. So anyways, my junior year, my mom had

538
00:25:26,266 --> 00:25:28,946
Speaker 1: a business in NASCAR. She was living in North Carolina.

539
00:25:28,986 --> 00:25:30,946
Speaker 1: Knew the neighbor of the neighbor to the ticketing manager.

540
00:25:31,026 --> 00:25:34,426
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a three week internship. Phil Yazzi was

541
00:25:34,546 --> 00:25:36,546
Speaker 1: his name, come on in and then it happened to

542
00:25:36,546 --> 00:25:38,986
Speaker 1: be this season was over again, so I'm taking inventory

543
00:25:39,026 --> 00:25:41,266
Speaker 1: as suites and taking phone calls and everything. We got

544
00:25:41,266 --> 00:25:43,066
Speaker 1: to know the people there and when it was over

545
00:25:44,146 --> 00:25:45,826
Speaker 1: They're like, hey, if you want to work training camp,

546
00:25:45,906 --> 00:25:48,946
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you in contact with the assistant full operations.

547
00:25:48,946 --> 00:25:52,066
Speaker 1: Guy's name is Brandon Bean. I'm like all right, So

548
00:25:52,386 --> 00:25:54,386
Speaker 1: I stayed in contact with Brandy. He's like, yeah, come

549
00:25:54,386 --> 00:25:57,786
Speaker 1: on down for training camp. You can work. And so

550
00:25:57,906 --> 00:26:01,666
Speaker 1: on July eleventh of two thousand, my twenty first birthday,

551
00:26:01,906 --> 00:26:03,666
Speaker 1: was my first day, you know, went to Charlotte. My

552
00:26:03,746 --> 00:26:05,586
Speaker 1: mom dropped me off like I was going to camp

553
00:26:05,666 --> 00:26:09,786
Speaker 1: or you know, backed lunch exactly exactly, and uh, you know,

554
00:26:09,906 --> 00:26:11,466
Speaker 1: we got in the buses and we went down to

555
00:26:11,786 --> 00:26:14,746
Speaker 1: set up training camp in Spartanburg. So Brandon I became

556
00:26:14,826 --> 00:26:17,386
Speaker 1: fast friends. Uh, you know, working for him. You know,

557
00:26:17,466 --> 00:26:19,626
Speaker 1: we played basketball training camp. Him and I are both

558
00:26:19,706 --> 00:26:22,306
Speaker 1: uber competitive, so uh, we were on the same team

559
00:26:22,346 --> 00:26:24,226
Speaker 1: to start off training camp a few times, and you know,

560
00:26:24,346 --> 00:26:27,826
Speaker 1: we became fast friends. And that training camp was you know,

561
00:26:27,866 --> 00:26:31,626
Speaker 1: setting up beds, TVs in the rooms, uh, stocking the

562
00:26:31,626 --> 00:26:33,786
Speaker 1: coaches with gator raids while they're at practice, you know,

563
00:26:33,906 --> 00:26:36,826
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. And then um, you know, fast

564
00:26:36,866 --> 00:26:39,186
Speaker 1: forward to the next you know, February. In between then

565
00:26:39,226 --> 00:26:41,066
Speaker 1: it was my senior year. I had a couple of

566
00:26:41,146 --> 00:26:43,906
Speaker 1: job offers. Um, you know, the story goes. You know,

567
00:26:43,946 --> 00:26:46,306
Speaker 1: Striker offered me a job. It was my first interview

568
00:26:46,346 --> 00:26:49,306
Speaker 1: I'd ever. I'd never been on an interview before. Striker

569
00:26:49,306 --> 00:26:51,626
Speaker 1: a medical device cochetical device company. I had buddies I

570
00:26:51,626 --> 00:26:54,506
Speaker 1: played with that we're working there and loving it and

571
00:26:54,586 --> 00:26:57,426
Speaker 1: you know, it's good money, and I couldn't make up

572
00:26:57,466 --> 00:27:00,146
Speaker 1: my mind. And literally the Friday I'm going to meet

573
00:27:00,146 --> 00:27:02,266
Speaker 1: Brandon in Indianapolis at the Combine because when I went

574
00:27:02,306 --> 00:27:04,426
Speaker 1: to school to Paul's only forty five in from Indianapolis.

575
00:27:05,346 --> 00:27:07,586
Speaker 1: I had to tell Monday to ax that contract back.

576
00:27:07,666 --> 00:27:10,146
Speaker 1: They called me on Friday before I left to meet

577
00:27:10,146 --> 00:27:12,066
Speaker 1: Brandon and they pulled the offer. They're like, if you

578
00:27:12,066 --> 00:27:14,786
Speaker 1: haven't made up your mind yet, then this isn't for you.

579
00:27:14,866 --> 00:27:16,666
Speaker 1: And it's a good company. I under I understand where

580
00:27:16,666 --> 00:27:19,106
Speaker 1: they're coming from. So went at dinner with Brandon that night.

581
00:27:19,146 --> 00:27:21,426
Speaker 1: He said, we'll find something for you. Let me, you know,

582
00:27:21,466 --> 00:27:23,346
Speaker 1: give me some time. And then you know, luckily they

583
00:27:23,346 --> 00:27:26,146
Speaker 1: had a guy retire and a scouting department and they

584
00:27:26,146 --> 00:27:29,986
Speaker 1: had a scouting assistant job open up. So um, Brandon called,

585
00:27:30,026 --> 00:27:31,426
Speaker 1: you know I when and I interviewed for here's the

586
00:27:31,466 --> 00:27:33,706
Speaker 1: other funny part about that. So I interviewed for the job,

587
00:27:34,466 --> 00:27:36,586
Speaker 1: and you know the old adage, I just want to

588
00:27:36,586 --> 00:27:38,666
Speaker 1: get my foot in the door. Yeah, I can't, you know,

589
00:27:38,706 --> 00:27:41,826
Speaker 1: that's what you say. Well, it's this old school guy

590
00:27:41,866 --> 00:27:45,186
Speaker 1: from Pittsburgh, Jack Bouschowski. I love the death. Can you

591
00:27:45,226 --> 00:27:46,506
Speaker 1: cuss on it? I don't know if guy cuss on

592
00:27:46,506 --> 00:27:49,986
Speaker 1: your body. So I'm like, you know, this senior in college,

593
00:27:49,986 --> 00:27:51,226
Speaker 1: I just want to get my foot into the door.

594
00:27:51,546 --> 00:27:53,306
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want somebody wants to get their

595
00:27:53,306 --> 00:27:55,186
Speaker 1: foot in the door. I want someone wants to scout.

596
00:27:55,266 --> 00:27:58,786
Speaker 1: And I'm like, let's go. I'm not getting this job.

597
00:28:00,826 --> 00:28:04,346
Speaker 1: So uh So, anyways, I go through the interview process,

598
00:28:04,386 --> 00:28:07,186
Speaker 1: I get back to school and I know this because

599
00:28:07,706 --> 00:28:09,186
Speaker 1: you know, the guy who was replacing as a scouting

600
00:28:09,186 --> 00:28:11,826
Speaker 1: assistant is is a very good friend of mine. And

601
00:28:12,146 --> 00:28:14,426
Speaker 1: they offered the job to a kid from Slippery Rock

602
00:28:14,466 --> 00:28:16,946
Speaker 1: because he was from Pittsburgh and Slippery Rocks in Pennsylvania

603
00:28:17,386 --> 00:28:20,466
Speaker 1: kind of the Pittsburgh ties. They he calls him like

604
00:28:20,466 --> 00:28:22,586
Speaker 1: a seven thirty in the morning, and the kid answers

605
00:28:22,586 --> 00:28:25,986
Speaker 1: the phone like, oh, you know, like he's sleeping hung

606
00:28:26,026 --> 00:28:28,906
Speaker 1: over sleeping. So he hangs up the phone. He calls

607
00:28:28,986 --> 00:28:31,586
Speaker 1: my buddy, He's like, hey, give me that Joe Shane

608
00:28:31,626 --> 00:28:34,866
Speaker 1: Kid's number, calls me and offers me the job because

609
00:28:34,866 --> 00:28:39,306
Speaker 1: that guy sounded like he was incredible. Yeah, that guy

610
00:28:39,386 --> 00:28:42,026
Speaker 1: right now is the general manager of X team. No, no,

611
00:28:42,026 --> 00:28:45,906
Speaker 1: he's I don't know who he is or what, but anyway,

612
00:28:45,946 --> 00:28:47,426
Speaker 1: so I know it's kind of a long story, but yeah,

613
00:28:47,426 --> 00:28:49,746
Speaker 1: the two thousand kidding it's great. Yeah, and it also

614
00:28:49,826 --> 00:28:52,346
Speaker 1: tells a lesson because I mean, we watch, we watch

615
00:28:52,426 --> 00:28:54,906
Speaker 1: all this stuff and then you get these fantasy football experts. Ever,

616
00:28:54,946 --> 00:28:56,626
Speaker 1: because I could be a GM, I could be a gym.

617
00:28:56,746 --> 00:28:59,746
Speaker 1: You started because you put yourself out there and you

618
00:28:59,826 --> 00:29:01,786
Speaker 1: wanted it, and you turned down a job for less money.

619
00:29:01,826 --> 00:29:04,506
Speaker 1: And then Brandon for those listening, no, obviously is now

620
00:29:04,546 --> 00:29:07,746
Speaker 1: executive of the Years with the Buffalo Bills. But I remember,

621
00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:11,546
Speaker 1: I remember Brandon when he was in the public relations department. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

622
00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:13,706
Speaker 1: he he started kind of the same path and worked

623
00:29:13,706 --> 00:29:16,106
Speaker 1: over to the football side. And again his was just

624
00:29:16,186 --> 00:29:18,146
Speaker 1: getting your foot in the door and then you know,

625
00:29:18,226 --> 00:29:20,186
Speaker 1: working your tail off, and that's what you know. One

626
00:29:20,226 --> 00:29:22,666
Speaker 1: of the stories I tell with Brandon too. Is about

627
00:29:22,706 --> 00:29:24,586
Speaker 1: two weeks in a camp, I called my mom. I'm like, yeah,

628
00:29:24,586 --> 00:29:27,066
Speaker 1: this sucks, Brandon, this Brandon bean guys got me. You

629
00:29:27,066 --> 00:29:28,946
Speaker 1: got him five to thirty every morning making the you

630
00:29:28,946 --> 00:29:32,066
Speaker 1: know coffee for the coaches. And um, what happened was

631
00:29:32,146 --> 00:29:33,546
Speaker 1: I did it for the first two mornings. We had

632
00:29:33,546 --> 00:29:35,466
Speaker 1: a special teams coach. It always wanted his coffee at

633
00:29:35,506 --> 00:29:38,426
Speaker 1: five thirty had to be you know, made and ready,

634
00:29:38,506 --> 00:29:39,986
Speaker 1: and so I did it for the first two days

635
00:29:39,986 --> 00:29:41,386
Speaker 1: and the third day the guy didn't wake up and

636
00:29:41,386 --> 00:29:42,986
Speaker 1: do it, so it missed it. So Brandon gets his

637
00:29:43,026 --> 00:29:46,826
Speaker 1: butt chewed out because that coffee's not ready. Then you

638
00:29:46,866 --> 00:29:48,546
Speaker 1: get it, Joe, I can count on you the first

639
00:29:48,546 --> 00:29:50,546
Speaker 1: two days to do it. So unfortunately, for now on

640
00:29:50,786 --> 00:29:52,426
Speaker 1: every morning and training camp, you have to get up

641
00:29:52,426 --> 00:29:54,386
Speaker 1: at five thirty, walk over to the coach's office and

642
00:29:54,506 --> 00:29:57,026
Speaker 1: make coffee. So, you know, my mom said, well, sometimes

643
00:29:57,266 --> 00:29:59,066
Speaker 1: you know, you get punished for being good at your job,

644
00:29:59,106 --> 00:30:01,306
Speaker 1: and you know you're dependable, so you know that's a

645
00:30:01,346 --> 00:30:02,986
Speaker 1: task you're gonna have to do, and you know she

646
00:30:03,106 --> 00:30:05,746
Speaker 1: was right on and again that earned Brandon's trust, which

647
00:30:05,786 --> 00:30:08,426
Speaker 1: then you know down the road, you know he trusted

648
00:30:08,426 --> 00:30:11,066
Speaker 1: to give my name to somebody to eventually hire me

649
00:30:11,106 --> 00:30:14,626
Speaker 1: as a as a staff member. So so yeah, it

650
00:30:14,666 --> 00:30:16,506
Speaker 1: was cool. Yeah, it's it's funny how it worked out

651
00:30:16,506 --> 00:30:18,946
Speaker 1: when you really look back at it, you know, it's

652
00:30:18,946 --> 00:30:20,586
Speaker 1: an interesting story. But yeah, then two thousand and one,

653
00:30:20,586 --> 00:30:22,666
Speaker 1: I was a scouting assistant for a year, you know,

654
00:30:22,706 --> 00:30:25,186
Speaker 1: making highlight tapes, you know, picking people up to the airport,

655
00:30:25,306 --> 00:30:28,266
Speaker 1: just helping out a practice, doing anything I could do

656
00:30:28,346 --> 00:30:31,226
Speaker 1: to you know, to show out was worthy of. No

657
00:30:31,346 --> 00:30:32,946
Speaker 1: job was too big for me, and then they could

658
00:30:32,946 --> 00:30:35,386
Speaker 1: depend on me to do the job and do it right. Yeah,

659
00:30:35,466 --> 00:30:38,226
Speaker 1: and Carolina had some really good years. And then something

660
00:30:38,306 --> 00:30:40,066
Speaker 1: you know that's a skip forward ten years or so,

661
00:30:40,146 --> 00:30:42,266
Speaker 1: but something that really plays in this New York market

662
00:30:42,386 --> 00:30:44,786
Speaker 1: is that, you know, you have a connection to Bill Parcels.

663
00:30:44,826 --> 00:30:46,706
Speaker 1: Could you take us through that connection and how you

664
00:30:46,746 --> 00:30:49,146
Speaker 1: and the two and I got to know each other. Yeah.

665
00:30:49,146 --> 00:30:51,626
Speaker 1: So when I was an area scout with the Carolina Panthers,

666
00:30:51,666 --> 00:30:53,706
Speaker 1: I was living they moved me to uh. I actually

667
00:30:53,746 --> 00:30:56,226
Speaker 1: lived in Frisco, Texas where the Cowboys facility is now,

668
00:30:56,346 --> 00:30:58,666
Speaker 1: is way before any of that stuff was there. But

669
00:30:58,786 --> 00:31:00,586
Speaker 1: you know, we'd fly in for meetings three or four

670
00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:03,266
Speaker 1: times year, draft meetings and stuff. Well, we had Dan

671
00:31:03,386 --> 00:31:08,466
Speaker 1: Henning was our offensive coordinator, like best friends with coach Parcels. Well.

672
00:31:08,786 --> 00:31:11,626
Speaker 1: Dan never bought a condo or a house or anything

673
00:31:11,626 --> 00:31:13,786
Speaker 1: in Charlotte, so he lived in the residence in where

674
00:31:13,826 --> 00:31:15,626
Speaker 1: we stayed at scouts. It was right next he lived

675
00:31:15,666 --> 00:31:20,426
Speaker 1: in a hotel Inteme, so you know, anytime we'd go there,

676
00:31:20,586 --> 00:31:22,306
Speaker 1: you know, he was happy as I'll get out because

677
00:31:22,306 --> 00:31:24,186
Speaker 1: now it's got seven or eight guys to hang out with.

678
00:31:24,266 --> 00:31:26,266
Speaker 1: And he was a great storyteller and a ton of

679
00:31:26,266 --> 00:31:28,826
Speaker 1: football knowledge. So I love Dan Hending. He was He

680
00:31:28,866 --> 00:31:31,706
Speaker 1: was awesome, great mentor for me. And you know Bill

681
00:31:31,786 --> 00:31:34,386
Speaker 1: was one of his best friends. So when Bill went

682
00:31:34,426 --> 00:31:38,266
Speaker 1: to Miami in two thousand and eight, Dan was hired

683
00:31:38,306 --> 00:31:40,226
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator and brought my name up to

684
00:31:40,266 --> 00:31:43,786
Speaker 1: Jeff Ireland. I knew Jeff, but you know, we weren't

685
00:31:43,946 --> 00:31:45,346
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't say we were like friends or

686
00:31:45,346 --> 00:31:46,586
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I had a cell number

687
00:31:46,586 --> 00:31:48,346
Speaker 1: at the time, but we knew each other just from

688
00:31:48,386 --> 00:31:51,226
Speaker 1: passing in the scouting circle. Went down and interviewed as

689
00:31:51,226 --> 00:31:53,626
Speaker 1: a national scout, covering the entire country instead of just

690
00:31:53,706 --> 00:31:55,426
Speaker 1: doing an area and was able to get the job.

691
00:31:56,866 --> 00:31:59,826
Speaker 1: Then and then yeah, first I remember my first draft

692
00:31:59,866 --> 00:32:02,746
Speaker 1: meeting being around coach Parcels and you're just, uh, you know,

693
00:32:02,986 --> 00:32:05,266
Speaker 1: you're gonna give your opinion and there's coach Parcels who's

694
00:32:05,266 --> 00:32:08,066
Speaker 1: won super Bowls. You know it when his eyes are

695
00:32:08,106 --> 00:32:10,386
Speaker 1: like validating because I because I've worked with Sean Payton

696
00:32:10,386 --> 00:32:12,666
Speaker 1: on Fox and the amount of Parcels stories he tells

697
00:32:12,666 --> 00:32:15,586
Speaker 1: and just everything is a busting chops. But was he

698
00:32:15,666 --> 00:32:18,786
Speaker 1: like encouraging or was he you don't know anything? Yeah,

699
00:32:18,786 --> 00:32:21,146
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. I actually asked me

700
00:32:21,146 --> 00:32:22,906
Speaker 1: to have more of a voice in the meeting. He's like, Joe,

701
00:32:22,906 --> 00:32:25,626
Speaker 1: you've seen the entire country, Like, speak up more. And

702
00:32:25,706 --> 00:32:27,826
Speaker 1: you know, I was like feeling out the room. It

703
00:32:27,906 --> 00:32:29,586
Speaker 1: was a staff that had been together. You know. I

704
00:32:29,626 --> 00:32:31,546
Speaker 1: was trying to feel my way through the dynamics. But

705
00:32:31,866 --> 00:32:34,586
Speaker 1: he was a great coach. He would not just obviously

706
00:32:34,706 --> 00:32:37,386
Speaker 1: football and everything else, but he he would always say,

707
00:32:37,506 --> 00:32:38,946
Speaker 1: you know why we would do this, or you know

708
00:32:38,946 --> 00:32:40,986
Speaker 1: why we're making this roster decision, or why are you

709
00:32:40,986 --> 00:32:43,346
Speaker 1: guys thinking this way in a meeting when you know

710
00:32:43,346 --> 00:32:45,226
Speaker 1: why take a projection in the first round when you

711
00:32:45,266 --> 00:32:47,266
Speaker 1: got this guy who's had production of a position it's

712
00:32:47,266 --> 00:32:50,026
Speaker 1: a known commodity or you know this is what you know.

713
00:32:50,066 --> 00:32:52,346
Speaker 1: He just had so much knowledge, he say, you know

714
00:32:52,346 --> 00:32:54,306
Speaker 1: what Tom Landry used to tell me, Like, oh my god,

715
00:32:54,386 --> 00:32:56,546
Speaker 1: so Tom Landry told build parselves and about to tell me.

716
00:32:56,666 --> 00:32:57,986
Speaker 1: You know, I got a ton of notes from my

717
00:32:58,466 --> 00:33:00,386
Speaker 1: from my time with him, and he's just a great

718
00:33:00,386 --> 00:33:02,266
Speaker 1: sounding board to this day. You know when I was

719
00:33:02,306 --> 00:33:05,226
Speaker 1: going through the process talking to him, and um, just

720
00:33:05,266 --> 00:33:07,506
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge and a great human being. And

721
00:33:07,706 --> 00:33:09,626
Speaker 1: you know he truly cares about you. And you know

722
00:33:09,666 --> 00:33:12,746
Speaker 1: you talk all the players and coaches and other gms

723
00:33:12,746 --> 00:33:14,506
Speaker 1: that have worked for him that still stay in contact

724
00:33:14,506 --> 00:33:17,386
Speaker 1: with him and use him as a valuable resource. Did

725
00:33:17,426 --> 00:33:19,786
Speaker 1: you get together with him in Saratogodoll? Did you try

726
00:33:19,826 --> 00:33:21,506
Speaker 1: to make the journey now that you're with the Giants?

727
00:33:21,586 --> 00:33:23,266
Speaker 1: I need to, I need to. I know Chris Merra

728
00:33:23,386 --> 00:33:24,906
Speaker 1: goes up there quite a bad He's got some horses

729
00:33:24,946 --> 00:33:26,506
Speaker 1: up there, and Dan Henning spends a lot of time

730
00:33:26,546 --> 00:33:28,306
Speaker 1: up there, So I'd like to get up there. We

731
00:33:28,386 --> 00:33:30,786
Speaker 1: try to get him to come through in August. It

732
00:33:30,946 --> 00:33:33,826
Speaker 1: just h you know, the timing didn't work out, but yeah,

733
00:33:33,826 --> 00:33:35,426
Speaker 1: I would love for him to get around or or

734
00:33:35,426 --> 00:33:38,346
Speaker 1: get up there at some point. Yeah, you know, I

735
00:33:38,386 --> 00:33:41,226
Speaker 1: find all of your stories, General Manager is so interesting

736
00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:45,306
Speaker 1: because take these circuitous routes to where you are. Give

737
00:33:45,306 --> 00:33:49,866
Speaker 1: me this this answer the player that you scouted that

738
00:33:49,986 --> 00:33:52,946
Speaker 1: you take the most pride in in that I banged

739
00:33:52,986 --> 00:33:55,106
Speaker 1: the table for this guy, or I saw him in

740
00:33:55,186 --> 00:33:58,106
Speaker 1: a in a random game that no one else was

741
00:33:58,146 --> 00:34:00,546
Speaker 1: talking about. And then this guy got to the NFL

742
00:34:00,586 --> 00:34:02,186
Speaker 1: and didn't have to have an all World's career, but

743
00:34:02,306 --> 00:34:05,026
Speaker 1: like made a name from them, and I was that

744
00:34:05,066 --> 00:34:07,146
Speaker 1: first set of eyes, or I was that voice in

745
00:34:07,186 --> 00:34:09,106
Speaker 1: the war room on any of your stops, whether it

746
00:34:09,146 --> 00:34:12,066
Speaker 1: being Carolina or Buffalo or Miami. Who was that guy

747
00:34:12,106 --> 00:34:13,506
Speaker 1: that you take a lot of pride in and you

748
00:34:13,506 --> 00:34:15,826
Speaker 1: hear that name and like something clicks and you're like,

749
00:34:15,826 --> 00:34:17,946
Speaker 1: you know what that was, my dude? Oh man, that's

750
00:34:17,986 --> 00:34:21,266
Speaker 1: always hard to do. One of the things I'm most

751
00:34:21,306 --> 00:34:23,466
Speaker 1: proud of is probably that first draft class in Buffalo.

752
00:34:23,506 --> 00:34:26,546
Speaker 1: I know that's you're looking for one in particular, but no, no,

753
00:34:26,626 --> 00:34:30,506
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's hard when you're going through a draft

754
00:34:30,546 --> 00:34:32,306
Speaker 1: and I just went through it again. When when when

755
00:34:32,306 --> 00:34:34,786
Speaker 1: you don't have continuity and you don't know everybody, so

756
00:34:35,066 --> 00:34:37,786
Speaker 1: you kind of you have a smaller circle and who

757
00:34:37,826 --> 00:34:40,466
Speaker 1: you can trust. But I mean that first draft class

758
00:34:40,746 --> 00:34:42,746
Speaker 1: and Brandon Brandon was very good. He's like, hey, when

759
00:34:42,786 --> 00:34:46,346
Speaker 1: we drafted Cam Newton, we were so focused on the quarterback.

760
00:34:46,386 --> 00:34:49,346
Speaker 1: The rest of the draft was not so great. So

761
00:34:49,386 --> 00:34:51,266
Speaker 1: we have to make sure if we're looking for a

762
00:34:51,346 --> 00:34:54,466
Speaker 1: quarterback that we still got everything else. You know, eyes

763
00:34:54,466 --> 00:34:57,586
Speaker 1: dotted tea's cross. And when you look at that class,

764
00:34:58,746 --> 00:35:03,786
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Tremaine, Edmonds, Harrison Phillips just got paid by Minnesota,

765
00:35:04,306 --> 00:35:07,786
Speaker 1: Karen Johnson got paid by Buffalo. Uh srand Neil just

766
00:35:07,826 --> 00:35:10,866
Speaker 1: got paid by Buffalo. Wyatt Teller's a two time All Pro.

767
00:35:10,946 --> 00:35:13,586
Speaker 1: They got paid by Cleveland. I wish we wouldn't have

768
00:35:13,586 --> 00:35:18,266
Speaker 1: trade anybody. Ray Ray mcclouds still in the league. Still

769
00:35:18,266 --> 00:35:20,026
Speaker 1: in the league. Again, I tell you, I do that

770
00:35:20,106 --> 00:35:22,826
Speaker 1: rookie playtime report, like that class is number one right

771
00:35:22,866 --> 00:35:26,346
Speaker 1: now in Rookie playtime. You know, to this day you

772
00:35:26,346 --> 00:35:29,266
Speaker 1: look three, four or five years down the road. So um,

773
00:35:29,306 --> 00:35:31,186
Speaker 1: I know that's not one player, but I'm proud of that.

774
00:35:31,706 --> 00:35:33,746
Speaker 1: You have pride in it. That was Brandon. I you know,

775
00:35:33,746 --> 00:35:35,746
Speaker 1: our first year together. You know a stat we had.

776
00:35:36,066 --> 00:35:37,826
Speaker 1: People don't realize this or I don't know if they

777
00:35:37,906 --> 00:35:41,426
Speaker 1: do or not, but they fired the entire pro scouting

778
00:35:41,466 --> 00:35:44,186
Speaker 1: staff and every single person and didn't do it until July.

779
00:35:44,746 --> 00:35:47,146
Speaker 1: So you guys got their win, Like we got there July.

780
00:35:47,666 --> 00:35:49,106
Speaker 1: They did it right after the draft. So they did

781
00:35:49,106 --> 00:35:50,666
Speaker 1: it right after the draft, and I'm like, you know,

782
00:35:50,706 --> 00:35:52,266
Speaker 1: it's a team that hadn't been in the playoffs in

783
00:35:52,306 --> 00:35:54,746
Speaker 1: seventeen years. It's like, Brandon, how are we going to

784
00:35:54,786 --> 00:35:56,946
Speaker 1: get people to you know, and people aren't letting good

785
00:35:56,986 --> 00:36:00,186
Speaker 1: scouts go and so we got We got very lucky

786
00:36:00,226 --> 00:36:02,186
Speaker 1: with this. I mean, look at this our original staff.

787
00:36:02,226 --> 00:36:05,306
Speaker 1: I mean, Marvin Allen's now assistant GYM with Miami, he

788
00:36:05,426 --> 00:36:07,386
Speaker 1: was there. Brian Gaye on to become the GM of

789
00:36:07,426 --> 00:36:10,106
Speaker 1: the Texans um you know, we just had. I mean,

790
00:36:10,106 --> 00:36:12,746
Speaker 1: we had a uh Lake Dawson. You know, it's been

791
00:36:12,746 --> 00:36:16,106
Speaker 1: a VP before, like Malik Boy, Terrence Gray. Like, we

792
00:36:16,106 --> 00:36:18,386
Speaker 1: were able to put together a really really good staff

793
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:21,946
Speaker 1: with experience in youth and you know that made those meetings.

794
00:36:22,026 --> 00:36:23,866
Speaker 1: You know, again, it goes back to the scouting staff,

795
00:36:23,866 --> 00:36:25,226
Speaker 1: the guys with the boots on the ground and all

796
00:36:25,226 --> 00:36:27,466
Speaker 1: these schools. Um it was very important. That was a

797
00:36:27,546 --> 00:36:30,746
Speaker 1: daunting task to you know, to hire an entire scouting

798
00:36:30,746 --> 00:36:33,426
Speaker 1: staff in the month of May pro and college. When

799
00:36:33,466 --> 00:36:38,146
Speaker 1: you saw Josh Allen tape, what do you think, Oh, man,

800
00:36:38,666 --> 00:36:40,586
Speaker 1: I'll never forget one of the scouts. Still reminds me

801
00:36:40,626 --> 00:36:42,706
Speaker 1: all the day. Like his game against Nebraska. He threw

802
00:36:42,706 --> 00:36:44,826
Speaker 1: four interceptions and I gave him a plus. You know,

803
00:36:47,746 --> 00:36:50,706
Speaker 1: that was a good game. That was a good game.

804
00:36:50,786 --> 00:36:54,506
Speaker 1: But yeah, the thing with Josh is like, if you

805
00:36:54,586 --> 00:36:57,226
Speaker 1: like the player, he's even a better person. Like you

806
00:36:57,266 --> 00:37:00,426
Speaker 1: can't like, I love the human being, like the way

807
00:37:00,586 --> 00:37:04,106
Speaker 1: what he's about. He's wired right, he's like the players great,

808
00:37:04,106 --> 00:37:06,066
Speaker 1: but the person's even better. And we fell in love

809
00:37:06,106 --> 00:37:07,906
Speaker 1: with the us And you know when we were doing

810
00:37:07,906 --> 00:37:10,066
Speaker 1: our certain research back and you know, the spring in

811
00:37:10,106 --> 00:37:13,786
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen draft has shaken out. In that first draft,

812
00:37:13,826 --> 00:37:15,826
Speaker 1: the first time Brandon's in the big seat, first time

813
00:37:15,866 --> 00:37:19,066
Speaker 1: here in your chair, and we see Baker go, and

814
00:37:19,106 --> 00:37:21,786
Speaker 1: we see Darnold go, and then of course, you know,

815
00:37:21,866 --> 00:37:25,546
Speaker 1: say Quan and quittin Nelson, you guys, you get aggressive

816
00:37:25,626 --> 00:37:27,946
Speaker 1: and you go and get a quarterback. Do you remember

817
00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:30,186
Speaker 1: the conversations going into it, like if this guy slips,

818
00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:32,066
Speaker 1: Like what was the talk when you were like, let's

819
00:37:32,066 --> 00:37:35,586
Speaker 1: go make that move. Yeah, well we knew early on

820
00:37:35,666 --> 00:37:38,026
Speaker 1: and if so, we had we were twenty one and

821
00:37:38,066 --> 00:37:40,546
Speaker 1: twenty two when the season ended. We ended up making

822
00:37:40,546 --> 00:37:42,786
Speaker 1: the playoffs that year. We had Kansas City's pick two

823
00:37:43,186 --> 00:37:46,746
Speaker 1: and we used a Corty Glenn. We traded to Cincinnati,

824
00:37:46,866 --> 00:37:49,626
Speaker 1: so we stopped like twenty one to twelve, and that

825
00:37:49,706 --> 00:37:52,786
Speaker 1: got us in range. But again we were trying to

826
00:37:52,826 --> 00:37:55,186
Speaker 1: move up. You know, we couldn't move to one. Dorsey

827
00:37:55,226 --> 00:37:59,346
Speaker 1: wouldn't trade one, Dave Gettlman wouldn't trade two. Three was

828
00:37:59,386 --> 00:38:00,786
Speaker 1: the Jets. They weren't going to trade with us, and

829
00:38:00,826 --> 00:38:03,306
Speaker 1: they made a move early on with the Colts. We

830
00:38:03,306 --> 00:38:06,626
Speaker 1: were actually literally working out Josh. I'm snapping the ball

831
00:38:06,626 --> 00:38:08,706
Speaker 1: to Josh at Wyoming and I get this update on

832
00:38:08,706 --> 00:38:11,306
Speaker 1: my Apple Watch and it said the Jets traded with

833
00:38:11,346 --> 00:38:14,666
Speaker 1: the Colts, and I'm just like at number three, am like,

834
00:38:15,186 --> 00:38:17,146
Speaker 1: you know, we couldn't have everything. Yeah, I didn't met

835
00:38:17,146 --> 00:38:18,706
Speaker 1: with the guys yet, so you know, we were in

836
00:38:18,706 --> 00:38:20,066
Speaker 1: a position to move up because we had to make

837
00:38:20,106 --> 00:38:21,746
Speaker 1: sure that there's somebody that we were gonna actually like,

838
00:38:21,866 --> 00:38:23,586
Speaker 1: you know, we saw the film, but you know that's

839
00:38:23,586 --> 00:38:25,146
Speaker 1: a position. You gotta get to know the kids too.

840
00:38:25,186 --> 00:38:27,746
Speaker 1: So anyways, we had something in place with Denver, but

841
00:38:27,826 --> 00:38:31,026
Speaker 1: their guy was there, which ended up being Chum. You know,

842
00:38:31,066 --> 00:38:33,466
Speaker 1: Cleveland ended up staying at four and taking awards. So

843
00:38:33,906 --> 00:38:35,946
Speaker 1: you know, when Jason Light got on the phone, you know,

844
00:38:36,106 --> 00:38:38,146
Speaker 1: we had some talks back and forth and it you know,

845
00:38:38,186 --> 00:38:41,866
Speaker 1: we're haggling, Um hung up and then they called back.

846
00:38:42,066 --> 00:38:43,786
Speaker 1: Brandon got on the phone with Jason, and that was

847
00:38:43,786 --> 00:38:46,546
Speaker 1: the first time somebody was willing to do business with us,

848
00:38:47,066 --> 00:38:48,826
Speaker 1: um where we could take the you know, take the

849
00:38:48,866 --> 00:38:51,106
Speaker 1: quarterback that we wanted. So it was cool. We took

850
00:38:51,146 --> 00:38:54,106
Speaker 1: him at seven. Kind of everybody was relieved, you know,

851
00:38:54,106 --> 00:38:56,066
Speaker 1: we're happy. And then you know, Tremaine was still up

852
00:38:56,106 --> 00:38:58,906
Speaker 1: there and we said, let's let's go get Tremaine. And uh,

853
00:38:58,986 --> 00:39:00,426
Speaker 1: it's funny. We ended up you know, being able to

854
00:39:00,466 --> 00:39:02,506
Speaker 1: get Tremaine with a you know third round pick that

855
00:39:02,506 --> 00:39:04,626
Speaker 1: we used. You know, we traded Tyrode to Cleveland for

856
00:39:04,626 --> 00:39:06,946
Speaker 1: the first pick of the round. That allowed us to

857
00:39:06,946 --> 00:39:09,826
Speaker 1: go up and get Tremaine, so we had some You're

858
00:39:09,866 --> 00:39:12,226
Speaker 1: getting draft capital and draft picks give you currency on

859
00:39:12,346 --> 00:39:14,466
Speaker 1: draft data to move around and make some of those moves.

860
00:39:15,306 --> 00:39:17,186
Speaker 1: If you don't have the currency, it's it's it's tough

861
00:39:17,226 --> 00:39:20,466
Speaker 1: to move around. But yeah, that was an exhilarating evening

862
00:39:20,466 --> 00:39:23,746
Speaker 1: to say the least. And it's a good bridge to

863
00:39:23,786 --> 00:39:26,146
Speaker 1: my next thing, because you know we're here recording this

864
00:39:26,186 --> 00:39:29,186
Speaker 1: week nine. Ryan Poles, first year general manager of Chicago

865
00:39:29,226 --> 00:39:31,866
Speaker 1: trades a franchise, you know, Star and Raccon Smith, but

866
00:39:31,866 --> 00:39:33,466
Speaker 1: he gets a second and a fifth and now they've

867
00:39:33,506 --> 00:39:37,306
Speaker 1: got draft picks. And as a general manager, I always say,

868
00:39:37,346 --> 00:39:39,666
Speaker 1: like I talk to you guys, it's you don't have

869
00:39:39,666 --> 00:39:42,026
Speaker 1: to get them all right, but the more bats you

870
00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:44,786
Speaker 1: have at the plate, the better. And I think you know,

871
00:39:44,866 --> 00:39:46,706
Speaker 1: with what the Giants have coming up, like you guys

872
00:39:46,746 --> 00:39:48,786
Speaker 1: are pretty stocked and ready for the next few drafts,

873
00:39:49,146 --> 00:39:51,146
Speaker 1: you have to like what you have moving forward as

874
00:39:51,146 --> 00:39:56,466
Speaker 1: far as the young players on relatively inexpensive contracts, and

875
00:39:56,466 --> 00:39:59,626
Speaker 1: then how good you guys are at analyzing college talent

876
00:39:59,666 --> 00:40:02,706
Speaker 1: and being able to identify those next next great pros. Yeah,

877
00:40:02,786 --> 00:40:04,786
Speaker 1: we have nine picks going in next year. You know,

878
00:40:04,866 --> 00:40:07,746
Speaker 1: financially we'll be in a better shape. And then you

879
00:40:07,786 --> 00:40:10,746
Speaker 1: know the good thing, you know what the roster is.

880
00:40:11,026 --> 00:40:13,266
Speaker 1: There's some players that were here before I got here

881
00:40:13,306 --> 00:40:16,506
Speaker 1: that are are good young talent, you know, Andrew Thomas, Dexter,

882
00:40:16,586 --> 00:40:20,626
Speaker 1: Lawrence Xavier McKinney, Julian Love, Say, Quan Daniel you know,

883
00:40:20,626 --> 00:40:24,106
Speaker 1: they're the Daniel Jones. There's there's pieces in place, um

884
00:40:24,266 --> 00:40:25,986
Speaker 1: that we're here previously that you know, hey, if they

885
00:40:25,986 --> 00:40:29,226
Speaker 1: continue to you know, perform at their their level, you know,

886
00:40:29,226 --> 00:40:32,106
Speaker 1: they're you know, you take care of your own and

887
00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:33,866
Speaker 1: then you add a couple of draft classes, you know,

888
00:40:33,946 --> 00:40:37,026
Speaker 1: some supplement someone free agency and um, you know again

889
00:40:37,026 --> 00:40:38,626
Speaker 1: and start building it the right way, bringing in our

890
00:40:38,666 --> 00:40:41,066
Speaker 1: type of guys. So yeah, I mean I'm excited about

891
00:40:41,106 --> 00:40:43,306
Speaker 1: the future. Um, you know, we had a plan in place,

892
00:40:43,306 --> 00:40:46,026
Speaker 1: we've been able to execute it this far, and um,

893
00:40:46,106 --> 00:40:48,266
Speaker 1: you know, I think we'll be in you know, getting financially,

894
00:40:48,266 --> 00:40:50,266
Speaker 1: we're gonna be much better shape this offseason and give

895
00:40:50,386 --> 00:40:52,866
Speaker 1: some flexibility and free agency and then having nine picks

896
00:40:53,266 --> 00:40:56,106
Speaker 1: you know, gives you you know options there to continue

897
00:40:56,106 --> 00:40:59,066
Speaker 1: to add young foundational pieces. Um on top of the

898
00:40:59,106 --> 00:41:01,066
Speaker 1: draft class that we have this year. So yeah, I'm

899
00:41:01,066 --> 00:41:02,826
Speaker 1: excited how things are going at six and two right

900
00:41:02,866 --> 00:41:04,946
Speaker 1: now at the bye week. You know, coaching staff's done

901
00:41:04,986 --> 00:41:07,666
Speaker 1: amazing job. Personnel pro in college, they've done a really

902
00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:11,146
Speaker 1: good job. So I'm excited where we sit. I grew

903
00:41:11,226 --> 00:41:13,706
Speaker 1: up in Freehill, New Jersey, which is in Central Jersey,

904
00:41:13,746 --> 00:41:17,466
Speaker 1: about forty minutes from MetLife. Giants Country all the way.

905
00:41:17,946 --> 00:41:20,386
Speaker 1: I live in Brooklyn, New York, and right now it's

906
00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:23,866
Speaker 1: Giants Country all the way. I just work on a

907
00:41:23,906 --> 00:41:26,146
Speaker 1: television show and people just want to talk Giants with

908
00:41:26,186 --> 00:41:28,946
Speaker 1: me everywhere I walk the last few months, what has

909
00:41:28,986 --> 00:41:32,146
Speaker 1: been your best or funniest interaction with a Giants fan,

910
00:41:32,226 --> 00:41:34,026
Speaker 1: whether it be at Dunkin Donuts or whether it be

911
00:41:34,026 --> 00:41:37,066
Speaker 1: at the DMV, whoever. It's like, these are characters and

912
00:41:37,106 --> 00:41:39,786
Speaker 1: I know you've encountered them in your everyday life. Yeah,

913
00:41:39,906 --> 00:41:42,266
Speaker 1: probably at Lows this spring. My wife was still in

914
00:41:42,306 --> 00:41:44,746
Speaker 1: Buffalo and she came over. It might have been right

915
00:41:44,786 --> 00:41:47,426
Speaker 1: after the draft. And again I've just been bunkered in.

916
00:41:47,506 --> 00:41:49,426
Speaker 1: I was at a temporary living. I'm going back and

917
00:41:49,426 --> 00:41:51,986
Speaker 1: forth from temporary living to the office, and that's I

918
00:41:52,066 --> 00:41:54,626
Speaker 1: really didn't get out much. So We're at Lows and

919
00:41:54,746 --> 00:41:57,506
Speaker 1: you know, we're looking for some stuff, and oh my gosh, dang,

920
00:41:57,546 --> 00:41:59,866
Speaker 1: this guy's like following me around like every aisle, Like

921
00:41:59,986 --> 00:42:02,026
Speaker 1: I look and this guy's kind of standing there staring

922
00:42:02,066 --> 00:42:03,946
Speaker 1: at me. I'm like, what the world's going on? Not

923
00:42:03,986 --> 00:42:05,786
Speaker 1: even again, I haven't been out, so I'm not like

924
00:42:05,866 --> 00:42:08,146
Speaker 1: somebody wreck cognizes me or I'm just not used to it.

925
00:42:08,266 --> 00:42:10,546
Speaker 1: So finally he kind of comes up to me, and

926
00:42:10,546 --> 00:42:12,626
Speaker 1: I'm getting kind of creep down. He's like, are you

927
00:42:12,746 --> 00:42:17,106
Speaker 1: Joe Shane, general manager the Giants. I'm like, yeah, So

928
00:42:17,106 --> 00:42:18,666
Speaker 1: it was just a can I get a picture with you?

929
00:42:18,706 --> 00:42:20,506
Speaker 1: And it was at Lows and again it was it

930
00:42:20,586 --> 00:42:22,906
Speaker 1: was in the spring, and I just it's it's hard

931
00:42:22,906 --> 00:42:25,826
Speaker 1: to I mean, you go from assistant jam or you

932
00:42:25,826 --> 00:42:28,186
Speaker 1: know whatever, just nobody knows who. Yeah, the New York

933
00:42:28,266 --> 00:42:29,986
Speaker 1: Posts one day, see yourself on the back page of

934
00:42:30,066 --> 00:42:32,706
Speaker 1: the paper. Yeah, I haven't got rid of I haven't

935
00:42:32,706 --> 00:42:34,826
Speaker 1: got used to that yet, or even pregame just walking

936
00:42:34,866 --> 00:42:36,666
Speaker 1: out to the game or somebody's yelling her name or

937
00:42:36,666 --> 00:42:39,266
Speaker 1: something like. I just it still catches me off guard.

938
00:42:39,386 --> 00:42:41,506
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just the time of Lows with my wife.

939
00:42:41,506 --> 00:42:42,946
Speaker 1: I'm you know, the guy asked for a picture of

940
00:42:43,026 --> 00:42:44,866
Speaker 1: me or something. It was just kind of like, all right,

941
00:42:44,906 --> 00:42:46,306
Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it, but it was just, you know,

942
00:42:46,386 --> 00:42:50,306
Speaker 1: getting used to that. It's like they're they're passionate. Like

943
00:42:50,306 --> 00:42:52,546
Speaker 1: the crowd has been unbelievable. I don't know if you're

944
00:42:52,586 --> 00:42:54,786
Speaker 1: here for that Monday night game or not, but um,

945
00:42:54,946 --> 00:42:59,586
Speaker 1: the Ravens game Chicago, Like the atmosphere has been unbelievable

946
00:42:59,586 --> 00:43:01,986
Speaker 1: at the stadium, it's been awesome. One of the coolest

947
00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:04,346
Speaker 1: videos or one of the coolest stories. I think the

948
00:43:04,426 --> 00:43:06,266
Speaker 1: article is done, and I hate that I don't have

949
00:43:06,306 --> 00:43:08,226
Speaker 1: the writer. Maybe it was Ryan Dunlevy In the post.

950
00:43:08,226 --> 00:43:11,506
Speaker 1: It was about uh, your pops's reaction when he heard

951
00:43:11,546 --> 00:43:13,746
Speaker 1: the news and all that could cook tell the story

952
00:43:13,786 --> 00:43:15,866
Speaker 1: of who your father is and where he found out

953
00:43:15,866 --> 00:43:19,906
Speaker 1: the news and what he's all about. Yeah, so my

954
00:43:19,946 --> 00:43:21,946
Speaker 1: dad still lives in El card Indiana, where where I

955
00:43:21,986 --> 00:43:24,746
Speaker 1: grew up, and uh, he's worked for the same company

956
00:43:24,826 --> 00:43:26,906
Speaker 1: Roadway for like, you know, he's thirty nine years he's

957
00:43:26,986 --> 00:43:30,346
Speaker 1: number one on the seniority pool and uh he's about

958
00:43:30,386 --> 00:43:31,946
Speaker 1: to retire. I think in February. He says he's one

959
00:43:31,946 --> 00:43:33,626
Speaker 1: of those guysho complains about his job, but I think

960
00:43:33,626 --> 00:43:37,866
Speaker 1: he actually loves going every day. So yeah, I got

961
00:43:37,906 --> 00:43:40,186
Speaker 1: the call and I walked up to my my offer. Well,

962
00:43:40,186 --> 00:43:42,546
Speaker 1: first I had to we're getting ready practice against Kansas City,

963
00:43:42,586 --> 00:43:44,146
Speaker 1: so I was trying not to be a distraction. Some

964
00:43:44,186 --> 00:43:46,426
Speaker 1: people saw I had a call from East East Rutherford,

965
00:43:46,626 --> 00:43:48,186
Speaker 1: so I knew something was up. I gave him the

966
00:43:48,186 --> 00:43:49,826
Speaker 1: thumbs up and I got out of there. I just

967
00:43:49,826 --> 00:43:52,066
Speaker 1: didn't want to be a distraction with going to Kansas

968
00:43:52,066 --> 00:43:54,186
Speaker 1: City in the playoffs. So you know, I went outside

969
00:43:54,186 --> 00:43:55,866
Speaker 1: and I called him, and yeah he was. He was

970
00:43:55,906 --> 00:43:59,426
Speaker 1: super proud, you know, got teary eyed, and uh, it

971
00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:02,386
Speaker 1: was really cool experience because you know, again, you know,

972
00:44:02,426 --> 00:44:04,426
Speaker 1: he worked hard. He taught me work ethic. You know,

973
00:44:04,466 --> 00:44:07,026
Speaker 1: every a lot of the you know DNA and who

974
00:44:07,066 --> 00:44:09,066
Speaker 1: I am today is is because of him and his

975
00:44:09,186 --> 00:44:11,666
Speaker 1: work ethic, and um, what he instilled in me at

976
00:44:11,746 --> 00:44:14,666
Speaker 1: a young age. So really cool experience. He's excited, he's

977
00:44:14,706 --> 00:44:17,906
Speaker 1: super proud. Uh. You know, he's got like a couple

978
00:44:17,906 --> 00:44:20,746
Speaker 1: of different places of breakfast spots and and uh you know,

979
00:44:20,786 --> 00:44:23,786
Speaker 1: dinner places where he goes and eats on a weekly basis.

980
00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:26,026
Speaker 1: And now they've got giants stuff up there? Is that right?

981
00:44:27,026 --> 00:44:30,706
Speaker 1: What's the town called. It's El Card Indiana's and it's

982
00:44:30,746 --> 00:44:33,146
Speaker 1: giants Country. Now yeah, yeah, it's giants Country. It's known

983
00:44:33,186 --> 00:44:35,346
Speaker 1: as the RV Capital World. So all the RVs you

984
00:44:35,386 --> 00:44:37,026
Speaker 1: see on the on the road with a lot of

985
00:44:37,066 --> 00:44:38,906
Speaker 1: them are made of No Card. It's about I'm about

986
00:44:38,986 --> 00:44:41,906
Speaker 1: ten miles east of Notre Dame, so you know the

987
00:44:42,026 --> 00:44:44,986
Speaker 1: South Bend, so very cool. Um, do we give our

988
00:44:45,106 --> 00:44:47,946
Speaker 1: secret breakfast spot? Do we give him a shout out? Yeah,

989
00:44:47,946 --> 00:44:49,426
Speaker 1: give him a shout out. Maybe we get a free

990
00:44:49,546 --> 00:44:54,146
Speaker 1: uh fream? All right, Combine, let's go back to February. Joe,

991
00:44:54,186 --> 00:44:57,306
Speaker 1: it just gotten the job, Brandon Bean. Uh. Brandon and

992
00:44:57,346 --> 00:44:59,466
Speaker 1: I have a long tradition of getting at breakfast. Back

993
00:44:59,466 --> 00:45:01,586
Speaker 1: when Brandon was in Carolina, we'd go to this place

994
00:45:01,626 --> 00:45:04,546
Speaker 1: called pata Chew at the Combine and it was like

995
00:45:04,626 --> 00:45:07,026
Speaker 1: top secret, no one else would go. Brandon I would

996
00:45:07,026 --> 00:45:10,586
Speaker 1: get some cinnamon toast and some delicious eggs. So Joe

997
00:45:10,706 --> 00:45:13,386
Speaker 1: joined us. But I gotta say, it's not such a

998
00:45:13,386 --> 00:45:15,946
Speaker 1: secret anymore. It felt like this was like a sort

999
00:45:15,986 --> 00:45:17,546
Speaker 1: of like spring break in the NFL. I didn't like

1000
00:45:17,586 --> 00:45:20,186
Speaker 1: the fact that our precious patache in Indiana is now

1001
00:45:20,306 --> 00:45:22,626
Speaker 1: the spot in the combine? Yeah, you're talking twenty five

1002
00:45:22,746 --> 00:45:25,506
Speaker 1: thirty minute. Wait now, it's it's unfortunate. Now, maybe it's

1003
00:45:25,626 --> 00:45:27,546
Speaker 1: this little shout out here will get us to the

1004
00:45:27,546 --> 00:45:30,106
Speaker 1: front of the line next year. Yeah. And I asked Joe,

1005
00:45:30,146 --> 00:45:31,946
Speaker 1: I said, all right, fifth overall, pick you tell me

1006
00:45:32,626 --> 00:45:34,786
Speaker 1: who are we taking? And he did not say the

1007
00:45:34,786 --> 00:45:37,026
Speaker 1: word Cavon Tao. So I just I know who to

1008
00:45:37,106 --> 00:45:39,666
Speaker 1: trust when it comes to my mock drafts. Moving forward,

1009
00:45:40,066 --> 00:45:43,546
Speaker 1: lastly before we go, Dude, if there's a young man

1010
00:45:43,666 --> 00:45:46,066
Speaker 1: or woman right now in their twenties in college, just

1011
00:45:46,146 --> 00:45:48,666
Speaker 1: out of college, and they play fantasy football, they love

1012
00:45:48,706 --> 00:45:51,866
Speaker 1: the NFL and they're like, they meet you in an elevator,

1013
00:45:52,626 --> 00:45:54,906
Speaker 1: I want to be an NFL general manager. How do

1014
00:45:54,986 --> 00:45:58,066
Speaker 1: I get there? What are your values, what are your tenants?

1015
00:45:58,066 --> 00:46:00,786
Speaker 1: And what is that message to that young man or woman? Yeah?

1016
00:46:00,826 --> 00:46:03,066
Speaker 1: I think again. What I tell a lot of people

1017
00:46:03,146 --> 00:46:05,746
Speaker 1: is go work with the colleges. Now you got these

1018
00:46:05,826 --> 00:46:08,546
Speaker 1: NILD it's basically like free agency. Not to mention they

1019
00:46:08,586 --> 00:46:11,346
Speaker 1: still got a recruit, so you can get valuable experience

1020
00:46:11,386 --> 00:46:14,466
Speaker 1: evaluating high school players for these colleges. If you want

1021
00:46:14,466 --> 00:46:16,506
Speaker 1: to come in and do the evaluation part for the NFL,

1022
00:46:16,586 --> 00:46:19,786
Speaker 1: but you know, work hard, be on time, be dependable,

1023
00:46:20,226 --> 00:46:23,866
Speaker 1: pay attention to detail, and to me, the best type

1024
00:46:23,866 --> 00:46:25,906
Speaker 1: of employees are when you can give them something and

1025
00:46:26,026 --> 00:46:27,706
Speaker 1: you know it's going to get done the way you

1026
00:46:27,786 --> 00:46:29,186
Speaker 1: expect it to get done and you don't have to

1027
00:46:29,266 --> 00:46:31,706
Speaker 1: double check it or find airs or anything like that.

1028
00:46:31,746 --> 00:46:34,746
Speaker 1: So the ability for somebody to depend on you is

1029
00:46:34,746 --> 00:46:37,386
Speaker 1: the most important because again my leadership style, I'm not

1030
00:46:37,466 --> 00:46:39,426
Speaker 1: a micro manager. I'm gonna let you do your job

1031
00:46:39,466 --> 00:46:41,066
Speaker 1: as long as I know it's getting done the way

1032
00:46:41,226 --> 00:46:43,386
Speaker 1: it's supposed to be done in the expectations of being met.

1033
00:46:43,386 --> 00:46:45,426
Speaker 1: Because if I have to micromanage, I'm going to find

1034
00:46:45,466 --> 00:46:47,466
Speaker 1: somebody else to do it. So I don't have to micromanage.

1035
00:46:47,466 --> 00:46:51,146
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just work hard. Again, I tell people

1036
00:46:51,186 --> 00:46:53,866
Speaker 1: around here, like if it's business side or whatever, I

1037
00:46:53,866 --> 00:46:55,346
Speaker 1: may not know what you do on a daily basis,

1038
00:46:55,426 --> 00:46:57,386
Speaker 1: but I know every day at seven am, I see you,

1039
00:46:57,506 --> 00:46:59,746
Speaker 1: or you're the first one in, or you're here laid

1040
00:46:59,906 --> 00:47:01,626
Speaker 1: or you know, whatever may be in. So when my

1041
00:47:01,666 --> 00:47:04,146
Speaker 1: scouts are going to schools, like you know, you never

1042
00:47:04,146 --> 00:47:05,946
Speaker 1: know what day. Another general manager is going to be

1043
00:47:05,946 --> 00:47:07,506
Speaker 1: there and they don't know who you are. But you

1044
00:47:07,586 --> 00:47:09,666
Speaker 1: came prepared. You were the first one there, and you

1045
00:47:09,706 --> 00:47:11,826
Speaker 1: asked really good questions when you were in with pe

1046
00:47:12,026 --> 00:47:15,106
Speaker 1: liaisons or whatever. It may be. So um for people

1047
00:47:15,146 --> 00:47:16,746
Speaker 1: that want to be a GM again, I think going

1048
00:47:16,786 --> 00:47:19,106
Speaker 1: to college route first is the best way. The way

1049
00:47:19,146 --> 00:47:21,546
Speaker 1: it's structured now. I mean they have gms of colleges now,

1050
00:47:21,586 --> 00:47:24,466
Speaker 1: and then there's there's several gms that There's one at Alburn,

1051
00:47:24,506 --> 00:47:26,546
Speaker 1: there's one in North Carolina, there was one at Georgia Tech.

1052
00:47:26,626 --> 00:47:28,946
Speaker 1: So um. You know that route's a good, you know,

1053
00:47:29,106 --> 00:47:32,546
Speaker 1: foundational piece in terms of getting some evaluation experience, and

1054
00:47:32,586 --> 00:47:34,106
Speaker 1: then once you get your foot in the door, take

1055
00:47:34,106 --> 00:47:35,586
Speaker 1: advantage of it. It's up to you once you get

1056
00:47:35,586 --> 00:47:38,466
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Hey, I'm ready to run through a law

1057
00:47:38,506 --> 00:47:43,466
Speaker 1: for you. It wasn't a pet dog. Hey. Look I'm

1058
00:47:43,506 --> 00:47:45,946
Speaker 1: at I'm at Good Morning Football every morning at five am.

1059
00:47:46,026 --> 00:47:48,466
Speaker 1: And I'm here and I'm like looking through like depth charts,

1060
00:47:48,466 --> 00:47:51,066
Speaker 1: so I could talk about Cincinnati's you know, new corners

1061
00:47:51,106 --> 00:47:53,546
Speaker 1: are gonna because Adobe A Woozier's hurt. I want to

1062
00:47:53,546 --> 00:47:55,226
Speaker 1: be at GM. I want to work for you, Joe,

1063
00:47:55,466 --> 00:47:58,306
Speaker 1: This is it, M dude. I appreciate you so much.

1064
00:47:58,386 --> 00:48:01,026
Speaker 1: I understand you're a busy guy, and it's not often that,

1065
00:48:01,106 --> 00:48:02,786
Speaker 1: you know, during the bye week someone would hop on

1066
00:48:02,786 --> 00:48:05,186
Speaker 1: and do an interview. But you're such a great dude,

1067
00:48:05,226 --> 00:48:07,986
Speaker 1: and and you're truly a visionary in this field, and

1068
00:48:08,026 --> 00:48:09,906
Speaker 1: we really appreciate you coming on the podcast. You do

1069
00:48:09,906 --> 00:48:11,826
Speaker 1: a great job. Man. Thanks for having me anytime. Peter

1070
00:48:12,466 --> 00:48:15,426
Speaker 1: all right. Joe Shane, general manager of the New York Giants.

1071
00:48:15,426 --> 00:48:18,026
Speaker 1: He's got New York in a frenzy right now, feeling

1072
00:48:18,026 --> 00:48:19,786
Speaker 1: good about their team, a team they could be proud of.

1073
00:48:20,786 --> 00:48:23,066
Speaker 1: More to come here on this season. Thanks again to

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00:48:23,146 --> 00:48:30,826
Speaker 1: Joe Shane. Joe Shane, awesome guest. Awesome guy. I hope

1075
00:48:30,866 --> 00:48:33,146
Speaker 1: the purpose of this podcast is that you get to

1076
00:48:33,186 --> 00:48:36,466
Speaker 1: know these decision makers and some of the guys behind

1077
00:48:36,506 --> 00:48:37,986
Speaker 1: some of the big decisions in the NFL a little

1078
00:48:37,986 --> 00:48:39,826
Speaker 1: bit better. And Joe really is one of the true

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00:48:39,866 --> 00:48:42,026
Speaker 1: great dudes of the NFL. And one of the true

1080
00:48:42,066 --> 00:48:44,306
Speaker 1: great dudes of the NFL network is my friend Tony

1081
00:48:44,386 --> 00:48:48,106
Speaker 1: Holzman Escarano. Tony, what's up, a good man? Hey, how

1082
00:48:48,106 --> 00:48:50,346
Speaker 1: are you doing? Sharks? Glad to be back here again.

1083
00:48:50,706 --> 00:48:54,586
Speaker 1: No doubt. Tony is with the NFL network's research department

1084
00:48:54,746 --> 00:48:57,786
Speaker 1: and often is the one kind of loaded me up

1085
00:48:57,786 --> 00:49:01,586
Speaker 1: with good nuggets, good info, good stats, good research, the

1086
00:49:01,666 --> 00:49:03,826
Speaker 1: combine and the draft coverage, for sure, but also I

1087
00:49:03,866 --> 00:49:05,946
Speaker 1: use this stuff during Good Morning Football all the time,

1088
00:49:05,986 --> 00:49:09,586
Speaker 1: and Tony, we're doing the highlights from the Niners Rams

1089
00:49:09,626 --> 00:49:12,066
Speaker 1: game and I throw a comment out there on the

1090
00:49:12,386 --> 00:49:15,546
Speaker 1: broadcast and I'm like, Christian McCaffrey has a rushing touchdown,

1091
00:49:15,546 --> 00:49:18,426
Speaker 1: a passing touchdown, and a receiving touchdown in the same game,

1092
00:49:18,426 --> 00:49:19,866
Speaker 1: and I go, I can't imagine there's a lot of

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00:49:19,946 --> 00:49:22,306
Speaker 1: running backs who have done that. And you hit me up,

1094
00:49:22,466 --> 00:49:24,266
Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring you on to make us

1095
00:49:24,306 --> 00:49:27,786
Speaker 1: smarter because you always do Historically, how rare is it

1096
00:49:27,826 --> 00:49:31,146
Speaker 1: for a running back to do the triple crown receiving, rushing,

1097
00:49:31,266 --> 00:49:34,026
Speaker 1: passing touchdown and then take us through what you think

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00:49:34,346 --> 00:49:37,706
Speaker 1: McCaffrey brings to the table here in San Francisco. Well,

1099
00:49:37,946 --> 00:49:41,026
Speaker 1: since the nineteen seventy NFL merger, there's only been three

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00:49:41,106 --> 00:49:44,266
Speaker 1: running backs, including McCaffrey, to do that. One is Walter

1101
00:49:44,306 --> 00:49:47,106
Speaker 1: Payton and the other is the Danny and Tomlinson. So

1102
00:49:47,866 --> 00:49:50,666
Speaker 1: a lot of great company McCaffrey's in right now, multiple

1103
00:49:50,706 --> 00:49:53,706
Speaker 1: gold jackets, the thing that players are all shooting for sure.

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00:49:54,146 --> 00:49:56,666
Speaker 1: The wildest thing with this is that he's the first

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00:49:56,666 --> 00:49:59,946
Speaker 1: player with thirty yards and a touchdown passing, rushing and

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00:50:00,026 --> 00:50:02,106
Speaker 1: receiving in the same game. So he actually he also

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00:50:02,146 --> 00:50:03,666
Speaker 1: added the yard. I like that, So it wasn't just

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00:50:03,706 --> 00:50:05,986
Speaker 1: like a one yard pass, it was the thirty yard.

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00:50:07,426 --> 00:50:11,506
Speaker 1: The pass was actually the third longest by a forty

1110
00:50:11,586 --> 00:50:14,426
Speaker 1: nine Ers player over the last three seasons five yards

1111
00:50:14,666 --> 00:50:17,986
Speaker 1: the like touchdown, third longest pass touchdown by air yards.

1112
00:50:19,026 --> 00:50:21,386
Speaker 1: Another thing that's crazy about what McCaffrey did is he

1113
00:50:21,506 --> 00:50:24,826
Speaker 1: also did this in college, also against an LA based team,

1114
00:50:25,266 --> 00:50:28,306
Speaker 1: against USC in the twenty fifteen Pack twelve champions Nice.

1115
00:50:28,586 --> 00:50:31,106
Speaker 1: So it's not new for McCaffrey to do the one

1116
00:50:31,186 --> 00:50:33,306
Speaker 1: one in one the triple single, I guess we can

1117
00:50:33,386 --> 00:50:37,106
Speaker 1: call it single. I like that. That's good. But as

1118
00:50:37,146 --> 00:50:41,626
Speaker 1: far as CMC in Shanahan's offense, we all know Shanahan

1119
00:50:41,666 --> 00:50:43,146
Speaker 1: loves to get the ball to his guys in space

1120
00:50:43,186 --> 00:50:46,146
Speaker 1: and let him meat. And he literally added the ultimate

1121
00:50:46,186 --> 00:50:49,786
Speaker 1: Swiss army knife into his toolbox McCaffrey's over the last

1122
00:50:49,826 --> 00:50:53,146
Speaker 1: five seasons. McCaffrey's second in yards after catch by running

1123
00:50:53,146 --> 00:50:56,346
Speaker 1: backs over that same time span, George Kittle's first among

1124
00:50:56,466 --> 00:51:00,266
Speaker 1: tight ends, nice and Deebo Samuel is first among all

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00:51:00,306 --> 00:51:05,026
Speaker 1: players in yards after catch pert positionless players. He has

1126
00:51:05,026 --> 00:51:07,266
Speaker 1: a bunch of chess pieces he can move around and

1127
00:51:07,266 --> 00:51:10,146
Speaker 1: do whatever he wants to with, and over the last

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00:51:10,186 --> 00:51:12,506
Speaker 1: two games that he's played with the let's call it

1129
00:51:12,546 --> 00:51:17,986
Speaker 1: one and a half yea, yeah, he's played in the

1130
00:51:17,986 --> 00:51:20,426
Speaker 1: slaughter out wide on twenty percent of his snaps and

1131
00:51:20,506 --> 00:51:23,186
Speaker 1: been used in motion or shift on a quarter of

1132
00:51:23,186 --> 00:51:27,066
Speaker 1: his snaps. So Shanahan's moving him around making sure he

1133
00:51:27,066 --> 00:51:28,946
Speaker 1: gets the most out of McCaffrey. I don't know who

1134
00:51:29,066 --> 00:51:31,946
Speaker 1: let Kyle Shanahan get Christian McCaffrey. Like there should have

1135
00:51:31,986 --> 00:51:35,306
Speaker 1: been like at one coming together and being like, no,

1136
00:51:35,626 --> 00:51:38,346
Speaker 1: don't let this happen. You know how fantasy footballers that

1137
00:51:38,426 --> 00:51:40,346
Speaker 1: do not drop list should be a do not let

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00:51:40,466 --> 00:51:42,826
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan have this player list that McCaffrey would be

1139
00:51:42,906 --> 00:51:44,266
Speaker 1: right on the top of it. You know it's so

1140
00:51:44,306 --> 00:51:47,826
Speaker 1: true because, like I reported it, the next day, McVeagh

1141
00:51:47,826 --> 00:51:49,666
Speaker 1: and the Rams were in on this and they didn't

1142
00:51:49,706 --> 00:51:51,866
Speaker 1: have all the draft picks that the Niners did, and

1143
00:51:51,906 --> 00:51:53,106
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it was like the

1144
00:51:53,186 --> 00:51:56,666
Speaker 1: highest bidder type deal. But for those at Alma don't know,

1145
00:51:56,746 --> 00:52:02,426
Speaker 1: like Kyle Shanahan baby sat Christian McCaffrey baby sat him.

1146
00:52:02,586 --> 00:52:06,026
Speaker 1: The story goes that, like, you know, Mike Shanahan was

1147
00:52:06,026 --> 00:52:08,826
Speaker 1: the head coach in Denver, Ed McCaffrey's the star wide receiver,

1148
00:52:08,986 --> 00:52:11,786
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan was a little toddler and like Edward babysit.

1149
00:52:11,906 --> 00:52:15,506
Speaker 1: Then you go, you know, before that, even Ed McCaffrey

1150
00:52:15,546 --> 00:52:18,226
Speaker 1: was on the ninety four nine Ers team that Mike

1151
00:52:18,226 --> 00:52:20,786
Speaker 1: Shanahan was a coach on and Kyle was obviously okay.

1152
00:52:21,226 --> 00:52:24,346
Speaker 1: And then Kyle Shanahan goes to Texas before he transfers

1153
00:52:24,346 --> 00:52:27,066
Speaker 1: to Duke and at Tech or maybe the other way around.

1154
00:52:27,066 --> 00:52:28,786
Speaker 1: Maybe he was at Duke and Chres techas I forget

1155
00:52:28,826 --> 00:52:30,826
Speaker 1: my chronological orders all screwed up. That's why they got

1156
00:52:30,826 --> 00:52:33,826
Speaker 1: a research department. But he wore eighty seven at Texas

1157
00:52:34,226 --> 00:52:37,866
Speaker 1: and that was because Kyle Shanahan worshiped ed McCaffrey so

1158
00:52:37,946 --> 00:52:41,306
Speaker 1: much that he wore eighty seven. Like that's crazy. And

1159
00:52:41,346 --> 00:52:42,866
Speaker 1: now they're together, and it's like, all right, of course

1160
00:52:42,866 --> 00:52:45,106
Speaker 1: they're together. A lot of family ties going on there,

1161
00:52:45,106 --> 00:52:48,026
Speaker 1: for sure. A Shahan got the only player in NFL

1162
00:52:48,106 --> 00:52:50,706
Speaker 1: history to average fifty yards rushing and receiving in their career,

1163
00:52:50,906 --> 00:52:53,826
Speaker 1: so he's one of one. He got one one player

1164
00:52:55,146 --> 00:52:58,226
Speaker 1: in that deal, and he has through twenty twenty five.

1165
00:52:58,346 --> 00:53:00,386
Speaker 1: So let's go. You're one of one, bro. Thank you

1166
00:53:00,386 --> 00:53:03,706
Speaker 1: for making us smarter. Christian McCaffrey and Tony Holtzman Escaranna,

1167
00:53:03,706 --> 00:53:05,666
Speaker 1: we'll get you next week. Appreciate you, Shreks. Thank you

1168
00:53:05,666 --> 00:53:08,706
Speaker 1: so much for having me. And now it's becoming maybe

1169
00:53:08,706 --> 00:53:11,626
Speaker 1: my favorite part of the podcasts, and this is the

1170
00:53:11,666 --> 00:53:13,666
Speaker 1: fourth time we're doing. At the end of every podcast,

1171
00:53:13,706 --> 00:53:15,426
Speaker 1: I bring on one of my friends, whether it be

1172
00:53:16,266 --> 00:53:19,226
Speaker 1: a childhood friend, a college friend, someone I've worked with

1173
00:53:19,266 --> 00:53:21,786
Speaker 1: in the past, who has a take. The take could

1174
00:53:21,786 --> 00:53:25,346
Speaker 1: be anything. Last week, my buddy Noah tour apart Paul

1175
00:53:25,426 --> 00:53:27,746
Speaker 1: Rudd's take that the guy who caught the Aaron judge

1176
00:53:27,746 --> 00:53:29,906
Speaker 1: sixty first ball did the right thing by giving it

1177
00:53:29,906 --> 00:53:33,106
Speaker 1: back to Aaron Judge. Noah said, that's ridiculous. The right

1178
00:53:33,106 --> 00:53:35,026
Speaker 1: thing is to take a million dollars and feature family.

1179
00:53:35,546 --> 00:53:37,786
Speaker 1: The first week of the podcast, we had my buddy

1180
00:53:37,826 --> 00:53:40,186
Speaker 1: Aaron on my college roommate, and Aaron came on and

1181
00:53:40,266 --> 00:53:43,946
Speaker 1: made the claim that the House of Dragons is better

1182
00:53:43,946 --> 00:53:46,106
Speaker 1: than the original Game of Thrones. It got a lot

1183
00:53:46,106 --> 00:53:49,306
Speaker 1: of pushback from fans of both shows. From fans of

1184
00:53:49,346 --> 00:53:51,946
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones, I wouldn't be lying if I had

1185
00:53:51,986 --> 00:53:54,426
Speaker 1: some people who work at the actual home box office

1186
00:53:54,506 --> 00:53:57,106
Speaker 1: chime in with thoughts after that take, and they were

1187
00:53:57,146 --> 00:53:59,506
Speaker 1: pro that take. They'd liked those ratings. They thought that

1188
00:53:59,546 --> 00:54:01,826
Speaker 1: was a good promotion for the show. I'm bringing Aaron

1189
00:54:01,906 --> 00:54:05,186
Speaker 1: on again because we're recording this the day after Halloween,

1190
00:54:05,546 --> 00:54:08,226
Speaker 1: and I just hear Ausen and his voice and over

1191
00:54:08,306 --> 00:54:10,386
Speaker 1: his text, I could say that he has a take

1192
00:54:10,426 --> 00:54:13,426
Speaker 1: on the Halloween holiday. Aaron. Welcome back to the season

1193
00:54:13,426 --> 00:54:16,466
Speaker 1: with Peter Schreger. Thank you, Peter. It is great to

1194
00:54:16,506 --> 00:54:20,266
Speaker 1: be back and I'm loving the podcast, loving the podcast.

1195
00:54:20,426 --> 00:54:23,666
Speaker 1: Rud was great, Noah, great take. He did a great job.

1196
00:54:23,866 --> 00:54:27,506
Speaker 1: Good job, Noah, great take. What's your take for week A,

1197
00:54:27,626 --> 00:54:30,586
Speaker 1: number nine of the NFL season where you at, dude, Well,

1198
00:54:30,586 --> 00:54:32,906
Speaker 1: you know it's October, at the end of October, and

1199
00:54:33,106 --> 00:54:37,866
Speaker 1: I got to tell you mentioned exhaustion. What happened to Halloween?

1200
00:54:37,986 --> 00:54:40,426
Speaker 1: What happened to the day. I want to stress the

1201
00:54:40,506 --> 00:54:42,946
Speaker 1: day of Halloween because the day of Halloween and my

1202
00:54:42,986 --> 00:54:45,666
Speaker 1: book has now turned into the month of Halloween. It

1203
00:54:45,706 --> 00:54:49,986
Speaker 1: feels to me that we are just going on an

1204
00:54:50,106 --> 00:54:53,666
Speaker 1: endless spree of Halloween celebration. I mean it literally is

1205
00:54:53,706 --> 00:54:57,066
Speaker 1: turned into Super Bowl weekend for children. And you and

1206
00:54:57,106 --> 00:54:58,746
Speaker 1: I've been to many a Super Bowl, so we know

1207
00:54:58,906 --> 00:55:00,586
Speaker 1: what it's like to jam in as much as we

1208
00:55:00,626 --> 00:55:04,386
Speaker 1: can do. I'm thoroughly exhausted, Peter. When I was a kid,

1209
00:55:04,946 --> 00:55:07,946
Speaker 1: we just slapped together our own costumes. Uh you know.

1210
00:55:07,946 --> 00:55:10,026
Speaker 1: I remember my my I was a Ghostbuster and my

1211
00:55:10,106 --> 00:55:12,746
Speaker 1: mom drew on a T shirt, handing me a paper

1212
00:55:12,826 --> 00:55:15,906
Speaker 1: roll towel with tinfoil and said, here you go, here's

1213
00:55:15,906 --> 00:55:21,426
Speaker 1: your Ghostbuster blaster. Go egon. I'm telling you, Peter, the

1214
00:55:21,466 --> 00:55:26,266
Speaker 1: amount of money that I just spent on Halloween, hundreds

1215
00:55:26,306 --> 00:55:29,266
Speaker 1: of dollars went into I'm this is not a joke.

1216
00:55:29,386 --> 00:55:32,346
Speaker 1: Eight costumes, eight different I have three children, Peter. You

1217
00:55:32,386 --> 00:55:35,426
Speaker 1: know this, three children, eight costumes between three children. One

1218
00:55:35,466 --> 00:55:37,946
Speaker 1: of those kids is one years old. We put him

1219
00:55:37,946 --> 00:55:43,106
Speaker 1: in three different costumes. What is going on, Peter. I mean,

1220
00:55:43,146 --> 00:55:45,306
Speaker 1: it's just an endless amount of Halloween. And I'll tell

1221
00:55:45,346 --> 00:55:47,626
Speaker 1: you what it's going what's going on. It's all for

1222
00:55:48,066 --> 00:55:50,746
Speaker 1: the social, It's all for Instagram. You know, you might

1223
00:55:50,746 --> 00:55:54,266
Speaker 1: as well call my wife, Patrick Mahomes, she's she's she's

1224
00:55:54,306 --> 00:55:56,906
Speaker 1: putting so much on social. Or that that guy from

1225
00:55:57,266 --> 00:56:00,266
Speaker 1: Seattle that you know is now playing in Denver, Russell Wilson.

1226
00:56:00,346 --> 00:56:03,866
Speaker 1: You know, you might as well. She's all for the

1227
00:56:03,866 --> 00:56:07,666
Speaker 1: social just pictures goal or it's you know, you know, Peter,

1228
00:56:07,706 --> 00:56:09,986
Speaker 1: when we used to be doing the wedding season, right,

1229
00:56:10,186 --> 00:56:13,466
Speaker 1: we used to spend all this money and show ourselves

1230
00:56:13,466 --> 00:56:16,946
Speaker 1: on this Instagram showing us partying and all this stuff.

1231
00:56:16,986 --> 00:56:18,986
Speaker 1: I feel like ten years later now this is what

1232
00:56:18,986 --> 00:56:21,826
Speaker 1: we're doing. Went from weddings to celebrating Halloween. That's all

1233
00:56:21,826 --> 00:56:24,466
Speaker 1: we're doing is showing off on Instagram about how much

1234
00:56:24,466 --> 00:56:27,426
Speaker 1: Halloween partying we're doing with the children and the parties

1235
00:56:27,466 --> 00:56:30,786
Speaker 1: and the costumes and everything. I'm why multiple costumes? Why

1236
00:56:30,826 --> 00:56:33,546
Speaker 1: not just the same costume? Like, who would someone judge

1237
00:56:33,546 --> 00:56:35,266
Speaker 1: if you wore the same if you were a Stranger

1238
00:56:35,306 --> 00:56:38,386
Speaker 1: Things character? Twice of course, Peter, because the social is

1239
00:56:38,386 --> 00:56:40,146
Speaker 1: all about the views and the clicks, and you know,

1240
00:56:40,226 --> 00:56:42,426
Speaker 1: the more times that you can come oh wow, now

1241
00:56:42,626 --> 00:56:45,706
Speaker 1: now he's a Stranger Things. Oh now he's Star Wars.

1242
00:56:45,826 --> 00:56:48,546
Speaker 1: Oh look at this. Now there. You know, it just

1243
00:56:48,586 --> 00:56:51,866
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and it's all for the social media. Now,

1244
00:56:51,866 --> 00:56:53,986
Speaker 1: you're not a grinch, but I will say this, Um,

1245
00:56:54,266 --> 00:56:56,906
Speaker 1: there was a feeling of frustration when we were on

1246
00:56:56,946 --> 00:57:00,026
Speaker 1: the text chain with all our college guys over the

1247
00:57:00,106 --> 00:57:03,906
Speaker 1: adult Halloween responsibilities. Now, I'm not a suburban dad, so

1248
00:57:03,946 --> 00:57:05,946
Speaker 1: I live a different life. I'm gone over the weekends.

1249
00:57:05,946 --> 00:57:09,706
Speaker 1: I think this is very specific to the suburban adults

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Speaker 1: now because I see it all over the social media.

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Speaker 1: Husband and wife dressed together, something catchy, and then it's

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Speaker 1: Friday night, then it's Saturday night, then it's Sunday night,

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Speaker 1: then it's Monday night. What's happened? Well, I mean, Peter,

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Speaker 1: you know, I kind of just went on a riff

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Speaker 1: about the children, but I had to tell you it's

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Speaker 1: the same thing for the parents. My wife and I

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Speaker 1: we had four different costumes. Uh you know, we had

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Speaker 1: the we had we had the peanut, butter and jelly.

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Speaker 1: You had the cult leader and and and the follower.

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Speaker 1: You had one that was a fun one. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know you got to go on and on and and

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Speaker 1: we have different parties. But now I'm hearing about all

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Speaker 1: these like you know, hosting people at your house to

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Speaker 1: do clue like you know, Hollywood mystery, Halloween mystery things.

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Speaker 1: I mean, people are going all out, taking it to

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Speaker 1: all different types of crazy measures. I mean it is

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Speaker 1: thoroughly exhausting. We've turned Halloween into what was one single

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Speaker 1: day when when you were you and I were kids,

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Speaker 1: into this month long extravaganza that doesn't stop until thank god, yesterday,

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Speaker 1: it's over. We're done. You know what, when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid, you'd go trick or treating for the night

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Speaker 1: and if it rained, sorry, if it was cold, sorry,

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Speaker 1: Like you don't get it, do over, you don't get it. Also,

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Speaker 1: maybe there was that kid in your class the night

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Speaker 1: before who would take like a cartet eggs out and

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Speaker 1: like egg the teacher's house and that was it. Now

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Speaker 1: there's this obligation, but I will say this to have

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Speaker 1: like a silver lining to this whole thing. It is over,

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Speaker 1: and now you can turn to decorating your house with

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Speaker 1: Christmas attire, getting the ornaments up that it's a whole other,

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Speaker 1: whole other experience here, because that's an Instagram frenzy as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Halloween stops and here comes Holidays, and so

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Speaker 1: Instagram Galora, I'll see you. I'll see you there, Peter,

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Speaker 1: I'll be liking your pictures, liking you and Mel and

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Speaker 1: Erica can't wait to see that. Yep, here comes, here

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Speaker 1: comes holidays. All right, So a thousand dollars in the

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Speaker 1: whole eighteen costumes, lots of candy, but you know your

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Speaker 1: wife probably got thirty eight likes on that photo, so

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Speaker 1: it was all worth it, Pal, all worth it, you know,

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Speaker 1: anything for the kids and my wife. That's it. That's it, Aaron,

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Speaker 1: thank you for that ray of sunshine on this amazing,

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Speaker 1: amazing morning. Brother, Always a pleasure. Great take you, Peter.

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Speaker 1: That's it. That's what we bring. We bring you the

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Speaker 1: GM of the New York Giants. We bring you insight

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Speaker 1: on Christian McCaffrey, and we bring you hot scolding anti

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Speaker 1: Halloween takes. And that's where we're at. Guys. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to Munich on Friday. I'll be recording a podcast live

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Speaker 1: from Munich next week. Until then, interesting slate of games

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Speaker 1: this week, like not a great one. But you know

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Speaker 1: how the NFL goes, this will end up being the

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Speaker 1: best week of all. That's just what it is. For

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Speaker 1: Aaron wan Kaufman, for Jason English, for the iHeart guys,

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Speaker 1: for the NFL guys, for the music Maestro Jack Rudd.

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Speaker 1: I'm Peter Schreger. Thank you everybody, See you next week.

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