Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why bow and look
Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness Dingdal lost
Speaker 1: culture rests calling well. First of all, it is a
Speaker 1: great prosperous a moment in the culture, is a great
Speaker 1: landmark day in world culture. It is the birthday of
Speaker 1: Bone Yang and Rebecca Romaine and Stone. I think Ethan
Speaker 1: Hawk shut up. It's a good birthday. And myself, not
Speaker 1: including myself, I'm saying a lot of great people who
Speaker 1: we love it in mire share a day with me. Wait,
Speaker 1: there's one more that's like Sally Field, Sally phild And
Speaker 1: I was just with Sam at brunch. I'm broadcasting live
Speaker 1: from the Palm Springs Ace Hotel. I'm broadcasting live from
Speaker 1: Hotel Chelsea, haunted place. Now talk about that? Is it
Speaker 1: sort of Divicious killed his girlfriend here? You're kidding me?
Speaker 1: That asshole? That asshole? What an asshole jerk? A Mandela
Speaker 1: Poor lives here, Hattie Smith, Ryan Adams wort of song
Speaker 1: about Hotel Chelsea. But we don't like him anymore. But
Speaker 1: after what he did to Mandy more unforgivable. No, and
Speaker 1: you can't cross Mandy. It's actually a real culture. It's
Speaker 1: it's a lost culture. Is this thing like, it's real culture.
Speaker 1: If you cross Mandy, you crossed us. What rule numbers
Speaker 1: that too? That's real culture number two. That's way up there.
Speaker 1: It's so important, you know. I would like to have
Speaker 1: Mandy Moore on the podcast. I have so many things
Speaker 1: to ask her. We need to get Adam Shankman to
Speaker 1: like send in some questions and have it be like
Speaker 1: a pseudo Walk to Remember reunion, because I told Adam
Speaker 1: Shankman myself, I said the DVD commentary of A Walk
Speaker 1: to Remember, it's Adam Shakeman, Mandy Moore, and Shane Wes.
Speaker 1: The three of them are having a blast laughing at
Speaker 1: Darryl Hannah's wigs. It is a who in half and
Speaker 1: the three of them love each other. You can tell. Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on. Something that gets lost in the conversation about
Speaker 1: A Walk to Remember is dar mom Oh my god. Wow.
Speaker 1: That needs to be more of a topic. And every
Speaker 1: day called people don't talk about Darryl Hannah's wiggs from
Speaker 1: that old movie from I Feel Like I Want to
Speaker 1: Remember was one of the last times where Christian culture
Speaker 1: and gay culture intersected, and then since then it's just
Speaker 1: been a diverging path. Well, you know what I'll always
Speaker 1: remember about. I want to remember it was late in
Speaker 1: afternoon last four and soon wait what our vocalist of
Speaker 1: Vocalista many more, Oh my god, the Tangled reprises. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the reprise for Mother Knows Best and when
Speaker 1: Will My Life Began? Oh, don't even get me started now.
Speaker 1: I'm rock hard thinking about the second reprise of That's
Speaker 1: when My Life be games? Good luck to everyone in
Speaker 1: this hotel. She literally touches grass or to use that
Speaker 1: term from the Internet, for the first time and sings
Speaker 1: It's perfect musical theater moment. Her emotions are so strong
Speaker 1: that she has to say she has no other choice,
Speaker 1: hitting the pause button. Smack. What is touches grass? Oh,
Speaker 1: it's like when someone's like two online, you're like you
Speaker 1: should touch go and touch grass. You know. I'm really
Speaker 1: happy I know that now because I'll use that a lot.
Speaker 1: But it's it's already on its way out, like people
Speaker 1: are already using it too much. Well, shit, I just
Speaker 1: fell on you just fell in love with it. It's
Speaker 1: like what Eva Longoria says in Desperate Housewives, but we've
Speaker 1: already fallen in love with her. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: just like that that was a great art. Speaking of housewives,
Speaker 1: I was just talking about Desperate house as the day.
Speaker 1: Actually it's due for combat. I can feel it. I
Speaker 1: can feel the ground swell of Desperate Housewives culture making
Speaker 1: a huge return. Yeah, because I'll tell you what's back.
Speaker 1: Funny satire. Um, it's been gone and now it's back.
Speaker 1: We need social suburban satire now. Although I don't think
Speaker 1: they can reboot it, because can you really give Felicity
Speaker 1: of a job now, major criminal, big felon, huge Hollywood felon,
Speaker 1: Felicity Hoffman. But I think she released one of the
Speaker 1: better Hollywood apologies in the last five years. You think
Speaker 1: this way. I thought her apology was nice and messed up.
Speaker 1: That William H. Macy kind of not involved in that
Speaker 1: sort of crucifixion, hands clean of the whole situation. Willie
Speaker 1: definitely sucked off a dean. You know, he knew he
Speaker 1: sucked off a dean. He walked down to college, you
Speaker 1: pen and sucked the dean. And before we can say that,
Speaker 1: starts saying that bravely, bravely, proudly and bravely, bravely new
Speaker 1: use a touch of grass. Before we can bravely say
Speaker 1: on Musculturis this that William H. Macy has been sucking
Speaker 1: the cock of every dean in college industrial complex the
Speaker 1: nation over, Then we can't say we're a podcast that
Speaker 1: breaks ground. And speaking of podcasts that breakground today is
Speaker 1: actually a huge deal in podcasting history because it's too
Speaker 1: critically acclaimed podcasts sort of getting together to shoot the ship. Absolutely, well,
Speaker 1: let's just keep it at that. I don't want to
Speaker 1: limit us because I feel like the four of us
Speaker 1: together this is I not want to really say this
Speaker 1: and self label in this way, but this is powerful.
Speaker 1: Not since Marcia Cross, even Terry Hatcher and I'm one
Speaker 1: of America's biggest criminals. Felicity Huffman got together. Don't forget
Speaker 1: nicolet Sheridan Honey, there's not a fifth and I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but she was supporting and had she known that, she
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten too the trouble she got in. She
Speaker 1: needed to know her place, She need to be thankful
Speaker 1: she came there, hit her mark, do her sassy one liners,
Speaker 1: and get the hell out. The fact that they even
Speaker 1: gave her deep arcs was huge. It's true, and we
Speaker 1: could get more into that because you know who they
Speaker 1: throw around her name as as a potential Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: cast member. Let's talk about it with our guests. Our
Speaker 1: guests are so wonderful, incredible comedians, real hot wives of Elando,
Speaker 1: real hot wives of Vegas and more, I mean incredible
Speaker 1: actresses and writers in their own right. They also host
Speaker 1: the truly iconic podcast bit Sesh, the kind of podcast
Speaker 1: that you go on and then a hundred people come
Speaker 1: out of the woodwork, as they say, and they say, wow,
Speaker 1: you were on bitches. That was amazing, people from high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the power. Damn, that's the power. Like we said,
Speaker 1: they are the host of bitch That. We are so
Speaker 1: happy and it was long overdo It's actually humiliating. It's
Speaker 1: taken the song to get them on. But please welcome
Speaker 1: into your ears. I hear on last culture as this
Speaker 1: let's go, We're off. This does feel like a meeting
Speaker 1: of the minds. I'm going to try not to. I'm
Speaker 1: so excited to be here and with my brethren that
Speaker 1: i feel like I don't want to talk too much,
Speaker 1: you know, like I want to like, just why else
Speaker 1: did we bring you on? You have to talk crucial
Speaker 1: that you talk. No, But I'm so excited, I'll just
Speaker 1: have like Diary of the Mouth. I'm trying to like
Speaker 1: chill myself. I mean, look, we've already said that William H.
Speaker 1: Macy sucks. I've been angry that he has really gotten
Speaker 1: to the background and had no repercussions. He's on TV
Speaker 1: left and right. Yeah, I want to say, guys, hi,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. But I am wearing
Speaker 1: a jumpsuit that last Halloween I pulled out two seconds
Speaker 1: before my kids started took retreating. I took a piece
Speaker 1: of tape, I wrote Felicity Huffman, innate whatever on here,
Speaker 1: and I got an s a t prep book and
Speaker 1: I walked out the house. And so it feels right
Speaker 1: that I'm wearing this to to be with you all
Speaker 1: on this incredible pod. Very so, did she do a
Speaker 1: hard time? She did do a little time. I think
Speaker 1: she did like fourteen dates. I'm not even kidding. I
Speaker 1: think Lori did like two months. Yeah, Lori, you know,
Speaker 1: got her daughter on like an a rowing machine, and
Speaker 1: that costs more in the eyes of a lot. That's
Speaker 1: soft time time, that's soft mochi bite time just really
Speaker 1: pillowy and juicy and whatever. Well, that's like Hollywood prison.
Speaker 1: It's true. But I'm ready to forgive. I don't know
Speaker 1: about Lorie, but I'm ready forgive Felicity. I forgive them absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, forgiveness is a major part of the human condition,
Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that we're talking about it here.
Speaker 1: Forgiveness so important. When was the time that you forgave? Never?
Speaker 1: Not once? Yeah, I heard that if this podcast all
Speaker 1: of a sudden became very Burnet Brown, like you didn't
Speaker 1: realize that we had pivoted, we get decided to TiVo
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before. It's more about humans run screaming. Berne
Speaker 1: is not even about forgiveness though. Anyway, I don't understand Burnet,
Speaker 1: and I know I'm alone in this and I'm going
Speaker 1: to hear about it. No, it's okay, should be yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what's confusing? We don't have to unpack her. I just
Speaker 1: the whole like vulnerability thing. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's She's not it for me in that world. And
Speaker 1: I will go to every unaccredited spiritual healer in the
Speaker 1: broken City. You I'll give anyone two dollars and take
Speaker 1: their advice. But something about her hasn't grabbed me. Okay,
Speaker 1: am no, no, no, no, no, no, You're not wrong
Speaker 1: at all, because I think vulnerability became like the catch
Speaker 1: all phrase in her work, and it's not the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the thing she should be known for.
Speaker 1: I think anything she should be known for shame, or
Speaker 1: at least emotional linguistics, like the act of naming your
Speaker 1: emotions as you feel them helps shape the experience of
Speaker 1: what you're going through. Well, you have just said, I
Speaker 1: have understood it so much more because both ability. I
Speaker 1: was hanging my hat on that word, know what was
Speaker 1: happening with it. But shame I can Okay, I'm recontextualize shame.
Speaker 1: Shame I got, I would. I can hang my hat
Speaker 1: on shame any day of the week. I get out,
Speaker 1: I get a hat. Stand. I remember she came up
Speaker 1: with her like HBO Max series that was recently out.
Speaker 1: I drank a weed Seltzer, got out of notebook. I
Speaker 1: was taking notes. Okay, I was like, all right, I'm here,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, I'm in class. I paid more
Speaker 1: attention to her as like a professor than any college course. Wow,
Speaker 1: and you got a lot out of it, a lot? Okay,
Speaker 1: I used to drive around this city of angels and
Speaker 1: just play her books in the car and weep like
Speaker 1: that was like when I couldn't afford therapy. Brown and
Speaker 1: me and my car were just like, this is right,
Speaker 1: this feels great. Yeah, that's incredible worth the price of gas. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: I have like a gift certificate to see a wizard,
Speaker 1: and that is not a joke. So I think it's
Speaker 1: time to who gave it to you? How much is
Speaker 1: it for which wizard? My friend caught she's a dog
Speaker 1: therapist and she gave me a certificate to a wizard,
Speaker 1: and she's just like, he'll change your life. There's no
Speaker 1: other He goes by wizard, and I wish I could
Speaker 1: call him by any other aim a rose that smells.
Speaker 1: He goes by wizard. So his name is wizard and
Speaker 1: his occupation is yeah, wizardry, And you know again, I
Speaker 1: will see anyone. So I'm looking forward to his teachings
Speaker 1: at amazing two hour session. I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to happen there. But you haven't You haven't done yet. No, No,
Speaker 1: I just had my gift certificate and it has to
Speaker 1: print out. Amazing. What do you what do you hope
Speaker 1: will or could happen. I mean, oh my gosh, there's
Speaker 1: so many possibilities. Whatever this wizard says will be like
Speaker 1: that's the thing I've needed this whole time, and I'm
Speaker 1: so stupid and everything I've done up till now is
Speaker 1: like a fraud, and so I hope for anything he
Speaker 1: tells me, I'll latch onto. I'm sure have you guys
Speaker 1: done the because now the big thing is terror readings
Speaker 1: on apps like you Chat with the Terror. So I
Speaker 1: downloaded Sanctuary in addition to other astrology stuff, and you
Speaker 1: can pay for a dollar a minute or some some
Speaker 1: people like five dollars a minute. Some people really charge up,
Speaker 1: but um I did one. And this lady was like,
Speaker 1: you should consider past life analysis. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: this has gone too far, but maybe should consider spending
Speaker 1: more money here see bowen. When I hear that, I'm like,
Speaker 1: wonderful and thank the right by my past? Is this
Speaker 1: beautiful tarotok? The mysteries of love? What does that say?
Speaker 1: Oracle decks, the greatest oracle deck of all time. You
Speaker 1: pull your card today, show the cards, Daniel, just show
Speaker 1: how gorgeous they are. Yes, this is the card that
Speaker 1: I pulled today. I'm just gonna show you this is
Speaker 1: important hope. Oh my god, that today and that's a
Speaker 1: beautiful photo to that orchid is very gorgeous. Yes, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call it an orchid. Those cards were gorgeous, Cobalt
Speaker 1: blue and goal. Yeah. Okay. So with the theme of
Speaker 1: hope on today's episode, and then the theme of the
Speaker 1: episode is of course hope forgiveness and hopefully betterment and
Speaker 1: shame and shame, I want to say some names for you,
Speaker 1: which this is what US Weekly reports, Okay, and this
Speaker 1: was this is a report that just came out. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're seeing this. And again it is
Speaker 1: way too early. And this is almost definitely. Of course
Speaker 1: they've seen it. It was on my Google alert this morning.
Speaker 1: But please proceed. I want to say these following names.
Speaker 1: Brandy Glanville, Kyle Richards, Lisa vander Pump, Sutton Strack, Erica
Speaker 1: Jane Garcel, friend of Doriet Kemsley. Do we have hope
Speaker 1: for this? Is this possible? Can this happen? So? Ren
Speaker 1: is not mentioned at all. She is not no, no, Diana,
Speaker 1: no Crystal. Wow, you know what right? His rain right? Beautiful? Perfect?
Speaker 1: I love the reintroduction of one Lisa vander Pump to
Speaker 1: take everything off of its heels, like everybody feels like
Speaker 1: it has to happen. Yeah, it feels nice. That feels
Speaker 1: real good. I don't need Lisa back, Lisa vander Pump
Speaker 1: back personally, but I'm ready to set sail to I
Speaker 1: think she's a ghoul. Yeah, it's it's become very ghoulish.
Speaker 1: It's become like it's become well, now it's like it's
Speaker 1: there's a sort of thing where they're like, say it's
Speaker 1: say it's say it's a Crystal all season about whatever
Speaker 1: this dark thing was. And now I'm like, Tarna, Okay,
Speaker 1: say it. What is it that Kathy said that was
Speaker 1: so coolul crazy? What does it? Say it? Yeah, nobody will.
Speaker 1: If you can't say it, you're off my screen. You
Speaker 1: gotta say it. Crystal is just too normal to me.
Speaker 1: I know moms that know her. I don't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to have one connection to these people.
Speaker 1: I appreciate her beauty as well. I mean, I love
Speaker 1: something to feast my eyes upon and I you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And she is gorgeous, So for that
Speaker 1: reason alone, I like her in the cast and I
Speaker 1: do think she calls people out, you know, in a
Speaker 1: way that some of the other girls don't. She's willing
Speaker 1: to speak truth to power, which I enjoy. But she
Speaker 1: is normal. She's someone i'd be friends with him. That's difficult.
Speaker 1: But it's when she calls people is when it's a
Speaker 1: good TV and she seems reticent and reluctant to do
Speaker 1: that until she's shoved into the court, like she really
Speaker 1: had to get backed up at the reunion for her
Speaker 1: to blow up a it was this is what I'll say, Like,
Speaker 1: when I knew it was going to be a bad
Speaker 1: season for Kyle, I was like, oh no, like bummer,
Speaker 1: I love Kyle. And then by the end, I was like, no,
Speaker 1: she really needed to have a bad season, because this
Speaker 1: is what I'll say about Kyle Richards. I don't think
Speaker 1: I've ever heard anyone say the word me more like
Speaker 1: everything is me. It only hurts me. It hurts me
Speaker 1: when you do this. It's me, and I have to
Speaker 1: deal with it. Me me me. Meanwhile, whenever anyone else
Speaker 1: has any issues, she's sort of like, why are you
Speaker 1: upset about that? Like dismissing every single thing Crystal said
Speaker 1: all season at in regards to how she was feeling
Speaker 1: and how she was experiencing things. She sort of does
Speaker 1: it with Garcel to which you know not to say
Speaker 1: too much, but there's a common thread there. It seems
Speaker 1: like she has some blindness, will say, and I just
Speaker 1: feel like there's a self centered nous, which in the
Speaker 1: past has been cute, and now it's just like, no,
Speaker 1: like you can't just do this queen bee thing anymore.
Speaker 1: Like in an environment where these are not actually women
Speaker 1: that are your natural friends anymore, they're like not scared
Speaker 1: of you in the same way, and so they're going
Speaker 1: to call out the fact that you center yourself constantly.
Speaker 1: And I think that seems to be what Kathy Hilton's
Speaker 1: biggest issue with her is is that no matter what,
Speaker 1: it always is all about Kyle. And that's something you
Speaker 1: learned to like stop doing, like in your mid twenties,
Speaker 1: not your mid fifties. Wow. Well, you know they say
Speaker 1: you get stuck at the age you get famous at.
Speaker 1: That's what they do say. And these women, especially the
Speaker 1: younger or Kim and Kyle, have been famous for a
Speaker 1: very long time and they are all under the still
Speaker 1: under the heavy foot of big Kath Big Kathy. She's
Speaker 1: looming large over all of this. He was very from
Speaker 1: this guy, from this guy, MoMA Cathy. Have any of
Speaker 1: you ever met Kathy Hilton in person? I wouldn't, dare
Speaker 1: I did. Wow. So I met her at an Emon
Speaker 1: Marcus event a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, on a
Speaker 1: shopping Spria. I was on a shop and actually I wasn't.
Speaker 1: It was very much like it was like a fancy
Speaker 1: weird It was pre Halloween and they were having like
Speaker 1: a Christmas event and Lupine and was there most beautiful
Speaker 1: woman I have ever seen in person, truly stunning. There
Speaker 1: were other people there too, and then Kathy Hilton was there,
Speaker 1: and I guess someone that works for her was like,
Speaker 1: do you want to meet Kathy? And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I guess, so I guess I have
Speaker 1: to here I am I being asked. So I went
Speaker 1: over to her, and like when she shakes her hand,
Speaker 1: she looks you dead in the eyes and sort of
Speaker 1: says hi, and then like expects you to say something,
Speaker 1: And all I could get out was Hi, Kathy, it's
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and I just want to say
Speaker 1: Team Kathy. And she goes and then someone next to
Speaker 1: me was like, I actually know a mutual a friend
Speaker 1: of yours. And she goes, oh, of course, of course yes,
Speaker 1: and then she had a conversation with them. But all
Speaker 1: I could say was team Cathy. And here's why she's
Speaker 1: much scarier than you think she's going to be. I
Speaker 1: believe that, I believe very intimidating, really much less cuddly,
Speaker 1: less cuddly, it's less what a goof and more like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. I was just gonna say, we've been
Speaker 1: on such a journey with her because I think we
Speaker 1: thought we knew Kathy and then she comes on the
Speaker 1: show and we're all like, that's not the Cathy we thought,
Speaker 1: like with this box fan and daughtering around and we
Speaker 1: were so excited. It wasn't the Caty we thought that.
Speaker 1: Then when she was unmasked as the Kathy we knew
Speaker 1: her to be before, we're now also confused. So you
Speaker 1: hear that in person she's tough. Is I'm taking it in,
Speaker 1: you know? And it wasn't It wasn't even tough. It
Speaker 1: wasn't even like she wasn't nice. She was like she
Speaker 1: fully came over and shook my hand, took a picture
Speaker 1: with us, and like then she went on her marry
Speaker 1: a way. But I guess what I'm saying is in person,
Speaker 1: it's an intimid dating vibe. Like it's not like, Hi,
Speaker 1: it's not warm, It's very like in the way that
Speaker 1: it's like her house is like, you know, very well decorated,
Speaker 1: but there's like a coldness and how like calculated the
Speaker 1: decoration is. Like That's kind of what I'm responding to
Speaker 1: is it's like a very put together Beverly Hills woman
Speaker 1: who's like in charge. Kyle on the other hand, Casey
Speaker 1: and I have met Kyle and been in her house
Speaker 1: and the one in in Cino, the one that that
Speaker 1: it's like a mansion with a dog mansion side of it.
Speaker 1: We've been there and Kyle could not be warmer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. And she did do the splits on
Speaker 1: that black and white parquet floor, which nobody at well
Speaker 1: with Kathy. I feel like Kathy has the teeth obsession
Speaker 1: is alarming, a huge red flag. The birth order is
Speaker 1: important here to consider, and I feel like Cathy is
Speaker 1: a perfect example of like her sinality determinism, where you're like,
Speaker 1: can people really change? Maybe not? Maybe she is She's
Speaker 1: always who she always was, and like and like what
Speaker 1: Casey's saying, like she was not like the cuddly goof,
Speaker 1: she never was that person. Like we caught like they
Speaker 1: show caught her in that little moment where she seemed
Speaker 1: to have like had a quirky little phase for a
Speaker 1: few months. You know. Yeah, this is the brine Brown.
Speaker 1: I want to listen to the thing about the Kathy
Speaker 1: Hilton of it all is it is there is a
Speaker 1: huge element of darkness here with the Paris Hilton school
Speaker 1: of it all. And also I was recently watching the
Speaker 1: Bling Ring documentary Yes so bo when I told you
Speaker 1: about it last week, So there's a Netflix documentary and
Speaker 1: obviously Paris Hilton was one of the people robbed by
Speaker 1: the Bling Ring. And they're the point in the episode
Speaker 1: where Paris is like sort of dancing like like sort
Speaker 1: of you know, seductively and like maybe she's a little
Speaker 1: drunk or whatever. This is like height of Paris, like
Speaker 1: two thousand six seven. In the background is Kathy just
Speaker 1: sort of standing there with arms folded, like smiling a smile.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is not like I gotta bring
Speaker 1: my fan with me. I wear slippers in the airport.
Speaker 1: Energy this is like a calculated family decision to have
Speaker 1: the fame be this type of thing, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's you know what I'm saying, Like it's not all
Speaker 1: peaches and creams. Yeah. And I also think, and I
Speaker 1: feel like I've been saying this for a little while,
Speaker 1: which is that like we don't get a Paris to
Speaker 1: Hilton and a Baron Hilton. I don't know from but
Speaker 1: we don't get those two I don't know from Nikki.
Speaker 1: Is the title of that I don't. I don't know
Speaker 1: from Nicki, But I don't you don't get those two
Speaker 1: pieces of let's honestly be true garbage without somebody else,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not saying we're all to blame
Speaker 1: for our children. Who knows my child could be a
Speaker 1: seo real killer and I refused to take responsibility for it.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it, like Carthy, I feel
Speaker 1: Cathy looming over them. I don't it was fun to
Speaker 1: see her us this dottering thing, and I do believe
Speaker 1: that that is a part of her personality. But there
Speaker 1: is darkness there. There's power play there. To talk about
Speaker 1: darkness in a way that feels um like exceptional within
Speaker 1: Housewives is wild bingo, like everybody's dark right for us
Speaker 1: to really see that and all agree they're it's like,
Speaker 1: you know what I do like about Kathy is how
Speaker 1: for some reason her and Garcella is like exempt from
Speaker 1: all her Like at no point was gonna like and
Speaker 1: wait till what she said about Garcella and Kathy is
Speaker 1: always in the corner with Carsella being liketh almost like
Speaker 1: she's always pulling Garcella off, like you get it funny,
Speaker 1: a little odd little pair there. But yeah, and I
Speaker 1: always forget that Kathy and Crystal or BFF, like, oh
Speaker 1: what's that about? It would seem that they had never
Speaker 1: seen each other on the street. Remember when she came
Speaker 1: over to yeh, when she came over to visit was
Speaker 1: like hey and then sat down and I was like, oh, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all just have Okay, here's a question. Is Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: the darkest franchise? Yes, at this moment, yes, I think.
Speaker 1: I for a while I thought Orange County was so
Speaker 1: dark because that is a is a franchise built on
Speaker 1: like it's a it's a house of cards, like there's
Speaker 1: no money, there's no culture, no culture in Orange County.
Speaker 1: It's actually shocking. It's like a kitchen island is the culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like we just redid the kitchen island, and that
Speaker 1: kitchen island is made from cardboard. Like there's no like
Speaker 1: if you took off the four mica it would be cardboard,
Speaker 1: and there's no real structures, Like there's no money, there's
Speaker 1: no personality, there's no there there. And so I find
Speaker 1: that vacuum of like gravitas, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like that vacuum of anything real, like to be really
Speaker 1: dark to me personally, it's like it's like it's taking
Speaker 1: place in a you know, like a strip mall. Yes, literally,
Speaker 1: but Beverly Hills has overtaken that right now. Beverly Hills has.
Speaker 1: For me, it's the sisters elements, Like the three Sisters
Speaker 1: were always saying there's like a Checkovian thing happening with
Speaker 1: the three of them. There's something so dark with those sisters.
Speaker 1: And when we go back to the limo ride and
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic and we see the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: then we've got Rick is the real entrepreneur with real estate,
Speaker 1: and then Maurizio. It's so much just going on there
Speaker 1: that the family element to me takes us to another
Speaker 1: level of darkness, and Beverly Hills is an incredibly dark place,
Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, I mean from the beginning, what I've
Speaker 1: actually really liked about it was it was about the
Speaker 1: cracks in the China and like when when when they're
Speaker 1: actually got revealed what was under there, It was like
Speaker 1: fascinating because of the depths of how dark it was.
Speaker 1: Like I think probably the darkest thing that's ever happened
Speaker 1: on any house as franchise is Taylor Armstrong and Russell,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's because he's dead
Speaker 1: and he was probably going to kill her had he lived.
Speaker 1: That's like the base reality that we're working at. But
Speaker 1: it does feel like and I will say this the
Speaker 1: reason that Bowen and I love Potomac so much, and
Speaker 1: not to say that Bowen and I don't acknowledge that
Speaker 1: Potomac has been dark. It is probably at times at
Speaker 1: one point anyway been the darkest. With some of the parents,
Speaker 1: it gets dark, yeah, yes, but it's fun. That's funny,
Speaker 1: and like it feels light Like I love that. Like
Speaker 1: what I'm like kept up about at night is the
Speaker 1: fact that Robin cannot put together a family Funday of
Speaker 1: that family Funday. She couldn't even pay for a bounce
Speaker 1: house nothing. Mama couldn't get a spread together like anything
Speaker 1: on a folding table. Let me ask you guys this.
Speaker 1: You know we've we've talked about this at length, but
Speaker 1: I haven't heard your opinions. What do you think about
Speaker 1: Ashley divorcing Michael? Like is this real? Like what's happening?
Speaker 1: I think it's maybe just a whole gambit for Michael
Speaker 1: Darby to be like, I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: camera for the show anymore. Let's do something about that
Speaker 1: and like kind of stage some whole divorce plot. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, something about the call of Ashley getting
Speaker 1: the call in the car on the drive home from
Speaker 1: the family Fun Day event seemed a little off. Even
Speaker 1: though that it seemed off, but I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't tell, like the reality was a little
Speaker 1: bit and we didn't know really where we were in
Speaker 1: time and space or something about it. Huh Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not alone in this. It was weird
Speaker 1: that it ended like that. Yeah, it was like the
Speaker 1: family Fun Day event happened, and then she's in the
Speaker 1: car doing loops and like I just can't turning around
Speaker 1: in a call to Saco and it was so odd.
Speaker 1: It was so weird, and I will so my opinion
Speaker 1: on this is I think it's a real divorce, but
Speaker 1: I think it's not as complicated as they're making it
Speaker 1: out to be. And that's where they're producing it for television,
Speaker 1: which is that it's probably pretty cut and dry. She
Speaker 1: certainly has like the amount of money she's getting worked out,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like they they've known
Speaker 1: they were getting divorced for a few years. I'm certain
Speaker 1: of it, and they're probably just making it seem more contentious.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that because the baby though, the
Speaker 1: new kid. Yeah, but don't you think that Ashley's like,
Speaker 1: you will give me these children? Like I think that
Speaker 1: she has enough agency in that where it's like, even
Speaker 1: if they were to break up, she was like, I'm
Speaker 1: getting my kids out of this because that's ultimately why
Speaker 1: I married you. That's all I'm getting young. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I don't think that he wants them full time, Like
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an argument with you know, Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't think he's interested. I mean, he's a
Speaker 1: hundred I think of the yet he's the oldest living
Speaker 1: man in Potomac. Have you felt a darker space in
Speaker 1: that apartment on the ground picking up the toys it's
Speaker 1: made of glass? Just something about him with that one beer.
Speaker 1: The two of them love those coronas so much, and
Speaker 1: it is so wild to watch them sit around drink
Speaker 1: corona toys littered on the ground, an unsafe atmosphere for children.
Speaker 1: Glass every mirrored, and glass everywhere you look. I'm so
Speaker 1: upset in that apartment. Although despite all of this, back
Speaker 1: to your earlier point, it is the lightest show. When
Speaker 1: Candice breaks the fourth wall immediately and just says fourth well, no,
Speaker 1: I screamed, I stopped the show. I broke in a sweat.
Speaker 1: And then when she just they're so funny when she said,
Speaker 1: not today, Satan, not today, neck, not today, ankles. We
Speaker 1: don't have it. We don't don't have we don't have it,
Speaker 1: We don't have it. Matt and I talked about this
Speaker 1: last couple episodes, But like that moment in the dance
Speaker 1: studio where she just breaks fourth wall and goes, what
Speaker 1: are we doing? Yeah, looks at the camera says what
Speaker 1: are we doing? So impactful, She saw it all I screamed,
Speaker 1: screamed said last week with a certain Housewives memes that
Speaker 1: we love like like like whenever say is like um,
Speaker 1: I like the beat, or like bow and said when
Speaker 1: the Daylight savings DURINGDA what if your son died? And
Speaker 1: another one another one. Someone did a meme of Ariel
Speaker 1: when she gets her voice back. I need Eric? Where
Speaker 1: really good? I need Eric? I said. Whenever I get
Speaker 1: into any argument with anyone, I'm getting up off the
Speaker 1: floor out of my cross legged situation and saying I
Speaker 1: need Eric, and I'm stomping out. I said. We latched
Speaker 1: onto Doug Dog. I do remember when Andy called for Doug.
Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Because what do you
Speaker 1: want to do here? Doug kyles I. We did this
Speaker 1: Halloween show about ten people dressed up as Doug. They
Speaker 1: all had headsets. I was dying. It was like everybody
Speaker 1: decided to be Andy Judge he did, he did. It
Speaker 1: was just Doug, Doug, have your potatoes, Dug. Someone dressed
Speaker 1: up as a chicken tender that Erica said, Crystal cris
Speaker 1: God our friend Tim Murray, who's been on the podcast,
Speaker 1: he came to a very crowded Halloween party the other
Speaker 1: day as Kathy Hilton's Congo line. He had one person
Speaker 1: in front of him, one person like he made like mannekins,
Speaker 1: and there was one on his front and one on
Speaker 1: his back, and he was like the party was too
Speaker 1: crowded as it was, and he was like trying to
Speaker 1: get through as Kathy Hilton's line. And I really think
Speaker 1: that was Wow, that's great, beautiful. But back to Potomac.
Speaker 1: I also love Karen and Giselle's relationship, Like, even though
Speaker 1: it is obviously fraught, there is such humor and love
Speaker 1: there that when they do get together, there's nothing funnier.
Speaker 1: I think someone said to them, hey, stop, like just
Speaker 1: please get together. We need it as an age, just
Speaker 1: have to. And they're like fine, and it's so fun
Speaker 1: and and there are It is all building towards a
Speaker 1: Candice and Ashley sort of team up to Like it
Speaker 1: feels like the old rivalries are breaking down and new
Speaker 1: ones are formed, unexpected ones are forming in their place,
Speaker 1: and they am not seggling right now. It's the Salt Lake,
Speaker 1: but I feel like that's I was just thinking that
Speaker 1: bone yes with Heather and Whitney kind of breaking off
Speaker 1: and Lisa, what do you guys make of Salt Lake.
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, it's actually becoming less fun
Speaker 1: for me, just because I always struggle with a cast
Speaker 1: of women that's really small, because especially when the dynamics
Speaker 1: are so firm, like it's like Meredith and Lisa, it's
Speaker 1: just not moving forward, and Heather and Whitney seemed to
Speaker 1: not be moving forward. And with Jen it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: I think all the juices sucked out of her scenes
Speaker 1: actually because we know what happens and we know she's lying,
Speaker 1: so she has no credibility, so therefore she's not a
Speaker 1: grounded character in the show. And I don't I certainly
Speaker 1: don't have fun watching her, nor do I enjoy where
Speaker 1: it's gonna go, Like if it's if we're gonna go there,
Speaker 1: let's get there. That's what I think about Salt Lake
Speaker 1: right now, is it's moving slowly. Although I did enjoy
Speaker 1: the Talent Show at least the beginnings of that. Someone
Speaker 1: Danny Pellegrino and everything kind of described Whitney and Angie Harrington,
Speaker 1: which by the way, that's a haunted situy. There their
Speaker 1: dance toos being from Greg Gardens, and I that absolutely
Speaker 1: it Gardens, but bones not a salt like stam, I
Speaker 1: am right, but you more like the fun Potomac energy.
Speaker 1: The Potomac energy is something that I feel like is
Speaker 1: sorely missing from so many people's lives and my own.
Speaker 1: I just it's the kind of television that's hard to find.
Speaker 1: It's the I don't want that much reality TV. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a snooty way. I'm just
Speaker 1: going like, it's because I feel like it's hard to
Speaker 1: arrive at that. There's there's an alchemy in Potomac that
Speaker 1: is very, very, very very hard to land on. Well.
Speaker 1: To have a person throw a taco party sprinkling writes
Speaker 1: the passage whatever, and then not serve one taco like
Speaker 1: that is you can't get that anywhere, Like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't get that every like come on like that and
Speaker 1: even and I feel like I'm so invested in in
Speaker 1: in what's going on in that show, even though it
Speaker 1: is like the lowest Steaks compared to a lot of
Speaker 1: other shows. Like Ashley Darby showed up to an Essental
Speaker 1: after party a month ago and I was just so
Speaker 1: annoyed with her at the time in the show that
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not saying EI to her, like
Speaker 1: like the spills over into my real life where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not and then I'm at at upfront, I've told
Speaker 1: the story I made eye contact with Gazelle Bryant, and
Speaker 1: I think she this is me assuming so much and
Speaker 1: thinking so highly of myself. But I'm like, she knows
Speaker 1: I've talked about her publicly. I think they do know.
Speaker 1: But no, I don't know. But but wait, so so
Speaker 1: you ladies like because like the iconic the podcast are
Speaker 1: you and Danny? Like? You guys are the podcasts for
Speaker 1: four Housewives? Do you do you get people reaching out
Speaker 1: ever and like angry at you? You know, I I
Speaker 1: don't say this sounds like I'm being funny, You're trying
Speaker 1: to be rude. I don't think a lot of the
Speaker 1: housewives can get at podcasts. And that's just a I
Speaker 1: don't think they know how. Yeah, because if I like
Speaker 1: post anything, I'll get some d ms, but it's like
Speaker 1: nothing compared to what we've said. Also, remember how none
Speaker 1: of the housewives in Beverly Hills could get through like
Speaker 1: one page of a newspaper article, Like when they're like
Speaker 1: something that they were cared about, you know, something that
Speaker 1: they were like invested, Like I couldn't read Erica's that
Speaker 1: whole article. I couldn't. She was the only one that
Speaker 1: read like any of it. Well, Sutton read it, but
Speaker 1: she took all morning. Yeah, exactly. So I think if
Speaker 1: they feel that way about podcasts, like I can't listen
Speaker 1: to all of this, like you know, Lisa, Lisa Wrenna
Speaker 1: has has come after me a bit and she's watching
Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live and firing off d MS right
Speaker 1: away whatever anyone's saying. She's she's at you. And it
Speaker 1: was scary. I had to take a colon up in
Speaker 1: She's got touch grass. She did. She was like, Danielle,
Speaker 1: can you read this? I was like, I'll get through it,
Speaker 1: like I'll figure it was so scary, honest. But I
Speaker 1: guess we're asking like has it colored your interactions with
Speaker 1: housewives that you've had, Like you know, we try not
Speaker 1: to ever really interview them or fly too close to
Speaker 1: the sun. I don't want to. I I just filmed
Speaker 1: the video with Sonia where I pretended to be her intern.
Speaker 1: But Sonia I put in a class over here. You know,
Speaker 1: she's so fun and sweet, and I would feel the
Speaker 1: same way about her, But I don't really want to
Speaker 1: get to know these gals as much as I love them, sure,
Speaker 1: and I also want to be able to talk about
Speaker 1: them and not feel bad. So they also sort of
Speaker 1: have to remain like characters in this great show that
Speaker 1: I'm watching, as opposed to like real human beings. Then
Speaker 1: like if it's like to me and it's but we
Speaker 1: do love them, it's not like we're coming about this
Speaker 1: from an angle of like, oh, these stupid idiots, Like
Speaker 1: I have real love in my heart for the respect
Speaker 1: human beings that put their lives on you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't and I change on them every day,
Speaker 1: one eighty from week to week. So it's best if
Speaker 1: I don't view them up close and personally, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and what while still remembering that they have to be
Speaker 1: people first and not because I think that was the
Speaker 1: thing I didn't watch too much Bravo Con stuff. I
Speaker 1: know you guys said and you didn't send, but Ray
Speaker 1: and Ira reported back to you on Bravo Con and
Speaker 1: it was a great opposite to the field. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the thing my takeaway from Bravo Con was
Speaker 1: like the booing of Rehnna, Like all this other stuff
Speaker 1: like just like the interactive element of that with the
Speaker 1: fans there while certain conflicts were being sort of played
Speaker 1: out on stage, there was something a little there's something
Speaker 1: a little dissonant to me about that. I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: we're not used to this element in the normal Housewives scheme. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the streams are kind of crossing. There's something happening where
Speaker 1: it's like it is getting a bit I like them
Speaker 1: to stay inside in the TV me too, that bad?
Speaker 1: Is that wrong the thing? And watch my stories. I
Speaker 1: want to watch my stories in my program, right, I
Speaker 1: want to watch my stories. It's our soaps. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of now, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's reminded me a lot of like the w WF,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where it's just like it's
Speaker 1: now become like an interactive element of it. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, they know to amp up their fans like
Speaker 1: and that to me is like it's drifting away from
Speaker 1: like what it is and more like for example, like
Speaker 1: on the Beverly Hills reunion, I think we spent much
Speaker 1: more time on social media things that happened after the
Speaker 1: show than on things that happened on the show, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think we even
Speaker 1: discussed big plot points in the season, Like, but we
Speaker 1: spent so much time on these bots. Like you know,
Speaker 1: whose name wasn't even uttered? I knew it. I was Star.
Speaker 1: Thank you his high note? Can he sing now? Can
Speaker 1: Constantine Maroula? Thank you for that? A name we haven't heard.
Speaker 1: Oh he just shot up out of bed. He was
Speaker 1: like speaking of constantly, Marls. That's sort of a look
Speaker 1: back and culture. And so this being your your first
Speaker 1: appearance on the show, what we do is we ask
Speaker 1: every single guest that rolls through, what was the culture
Speaker 1: that made you say culture is for me? This is
Speaker 1: the touchstone of Quickly Came Podcast last culture Ristas Danielle,
Speaker 1: we will ask you first, what was the culture that
Speaker 1: made you say culture was for you? For me growing
Speaker 1: up in the eighties and nineties, I'm going to say,
Speaker 1: like the original soap operas, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: I think what connects you to oh for sure, because
Speaker 1: it's women living out loud, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It was for me definitely, like the Susan Lucci and
Speaker 1: the Dallas and the Dynasty and the like, just like
Speaker 1: my favorite characters not being in an anyway likable or
Speaker 1: anyway anything I could relate to, just these like wild
Speaker 1: storylines and people screaming. Like I was six years old
Speaker 1: watching General Hospital, Like my mom would just sit me
Speaker 1: in front of it and be like have that. She
Speaker 1: was like Luke and Laura are getting married. Watching my
Speaker 1: mother was a massive all my children General Hospital exactly.
Speaker 1: So it was just like that was in front of
Speaker 1: me and I my girlfriend was watching like Smurfs and
Speaker 1: Sesame Street, and I was like, fuck that ship. It's
Speaker 1: like get me young and the restless, you know. And
Speaker 1: sometimes what's great about living in the Valley, which I
Speaker 1: now live in Glendale, but I used to live in
Speaker 1: the Valley, and what was great about it is I
Speaker 1: would see these soap opera stars that I used to
Speaker 1: grow up with, like loving aged and pulled. But it's
Speaker 1: gorgeous to see like the men and women. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I saw Jack Wagner in a hot yoga class and
Speaker 1: I almost ship, my this is life's old, Like not old,
Speaker 1: I just mean like like time bound, whether I'm weathered
Speaker 1: emotional relationships, paras, social or whatever with these people. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think that to me at a very young age
Speaker 1: was where I came up with the culture for me,
Speaker 1: because they were in homes every single day, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like that was it's one thing to
Speaker 1: be a TV star, and like I think that you know, people,
Speaker 1: maybe obviously it's all blended now because what is anything?
Speaker 1: What is a movie? What is a TV show? But
Speaker 1: like people always said, like when you were a TV
Speaker 1: star at a certain point, like people, you would be
Speaker 1: approached differently, whereas like people are very afraid to approach
Speaker 1: like a proper movie star, whereas a TV starts like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, so these soap opera people, they must
Speaker 1: get the and and the fandom obviously is was intense
Speaker 1: with them when they were huge, but maybe that energy
Speaker 1: has transferred over to the house fandom because that's what
Speaker 1: that's where people think. It's such a perfect line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Andy says that a lot. He talks about how
Speaker 1: like the reason he even was interested in doing this
Speaker 1: and like creating this, and obviously he wasn't like the
Speaker 1: creator of it, but he has steered it in such
Speaker 1: a way was because he loved soaps and missed them
Speaker 1: because they don't occupy the same cultural space anymore. My
Speaker 1: sister still watches soaps just like shocks me, like she's
Speaker 1: still like keeping her Santa Barbara every day, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I don't even have to rest
Speaker 1: real television. I wouldn't even know where to begin and
Speaker 1: where to get a soap opera like that, but like
Speaker 1: some people still are asked. You'll see like the soap
Speaker 1: opera Digest, which if I would beg my parents are
Speaker 1: in the grocery store, I'd be like, can I please
Speaker 1: get that? They'd be like, no, you can get Premiere
Speaker 1: and I'd be like, fine, oh I was not Tiger,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Premiere magazine, You've always been this person?
Speaker 1: Then yeah, complete, that's beautiful. I think, thank you. Just
Speaker 1: to have like your your like cultural focal like exactly
Speaker 1: set for like at a very young age, perfect, that's
Speaker 1: that's the dream. And so then to like create something
Speaker 1: like Hot Wives must have been like a perfect like
Speaker 1: meeting of those worlds too. Yes it was it still is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love to watch people
Speaker 1: that aren't perfect, living loudly and rashly, and so to
Speaker 1: just get anything we did on Housewives, nothing is bigger
Speaker 1: than the actual Housewives, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: anytime we we we did like a Casey's character through
Speaker 1: like a party to like raise money for high heels
Speaker 1: for dogs, and so it was one of those things
Speaker 1: where it was like, then they're all throwing these like,
Speaker 1: you know, Homeless not Toothless parties, like they all kind
Speaker 1: of feel in this city like we're never we were
Speaker 1: never bigger than the show itself. It's just you could
Speaker 1: have been so respectful as as an homage Homeless not
Speaker 1: Toothless could have happened on your show and everyone would
Speaker 1: have been like, this is the funniest joke of the year,
Speaker 1: and then it actually happened in real life and everyone
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wow, this is And I do think
Speaker 1: that's why you still need to read. I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: I will sort of die of to read Stan unfortunately.
Speaker 1: Like she does make me laugh the most, like the
Speaker 1: way that she acts, the things that she says, like
Speaker 1: the way that she wears her clothes even when it's
Speaker 1: dark with her, like it's it's entertaining to me. And
Speaker 1: I think if she weren't there, I would I would
Speaker 1: be upset. She's giving us a lot of flavor and color.
Speaker 1: Although maybe that's what a friend of is sometimes ultimately,
Speaker 1: but I I love her too. Yeah, I love well.
Speaker 1: What a gorgeous answer to the question that was that
Speaker 1: was that was a good one and the connecting one
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, Thank you, Casey. What about you?
Speaker 1: What's the culture that made you stay? Culture is for
Speaker 1: you? You You know? I know this movie is kind of
Speaker 1: cheesy and some people really don't love it, but I
Speaker 1: I am obsessed and still am with the women of
Speaker 1: the movie Clue oh good one. It touched me in
Speaker 1: a way that I can't even express, Like seeing these
Speaker 1: there was four comedians in it. I mean, obviously Madeline
Speaker 1: con Leslie and Lauren it was like sexy and funny,
Speaker 1: and then even Colleen camp who played the maid was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Um and II Lean Brennan as Mrs Peacock. And for
Speaker 1: some reason, that movie it lodged itself in my brain,
Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with all those women, and then kind
Speaker 1: of became just obsessed with female performers. I also, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess this movie isn't quite what we're talking about
Speaker 1: with like pop culture, but I got very into like
Speaker 1: terms of endearment, like Shirley mcleane, like and then and
Speaker 1: the death comes to realm. Like, I'm just into that
Speaker 1: whole wheel of kind of female character actresses. I would say, yes, no,
Speaker 1: that is formative. It was quite formative. I mean, is
Speaker 1: there ever any casting that's ever been better than Leslie
Speaker 1: and Lauren coming into play Terry Hatter's Mother and Desperate Housewives?
Speaker 1: I mean that was perfect. It was perfect. But these
Speaker 1: women are like that. That's who I feel like I
Speaker 1: am watching on Housewives truly, are all these kind of
Speaker 1: larger than life women who are funny and well they're
Speaker 1: not allowed to be it anymore. I feel like they're
Speaker 1: in my opinion, we just don't get they're sort of
Speaker 1: relegated to these like smaller movies, you know that like
Speaker 1: August oh Sage County or you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like not every like will watch the people in the
Speaker 1: culture will watch, but I will watch, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: be like in the lining up day one for August
Speaker 1: Osage County, you know, but like, you're not getting those
Speaker 1: characters because and even I as a writer, like I
Speaker 1: just get such pressure to write like likable, likable, likable, likable,
Speaker 1: and it's like, but I like people that aren't likable.
Speaker 1: I like people that aren't you know, that I like
Speaker 1: watching these women fight. I it is the most soothing
Speaker 1: sounds to me. I can fall asleep to them just screaming.
Speaker 1: It's like waves upon the shore. But I love it
Speaker 1: so much. Was like, how are you listening to that?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I couldn't want to listen to anything more.
Speaker 1: That's a beautiful sooth. I mean, I guess for some
Speaker 1: reason she's coming to mind. I mean, not for some reason.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. I think the only person who's like
Speaker 1: being allowed to play that kind of person now is
Speaker 1: like a Jennifer Coolidge, which amazing, we love no one
Speaker 1: is complaining, but like, I wonder how she feels that
Speaker 1: she just took like a rolling Stone interview that I'm
Speaker 1: still reading and like it's really interesting, really fasting. But
Speaker 1: she's but then you remember, oh right, she's also this
Speaker 1: incredible comedic performer who is like was for a while
Speaker 1: relegated to like Stiffler's mom or whatever and that, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then now she's doing a great job of trying
Speaker 1: to like recalibrate and balance those two things. But like,
Speaker 1: you go back and watch her invest in show, and
Speaker 1: her and Jane Lynch scenes are like incredible, and like
Speaker 1: who could have done that. But yes, she's a terrific actress.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, that kind of woman like Jennifer Coolidge
Speaker 1: is who I feel like we got to grow up
Speaker 1: watching like a lot more of that version, and now
Speaker 1: there's only so many actresses who get to and they're
Speaker 1: so relegated to like side characters the realtor, you know,
Speaker 1: and not that I don't want to see the realtor,
Speaker 1: but I but I do you think Mike White is
Speaker 1: like he is all about kind of centering them in
Speaker 1: a in an amazing way. But I wish yeah, because
Speaker 1: the realtor, like what else did you know? Oh? Like
Speaker 1: they're always like what are they? These characters are always
Speaker 1: like the real right, I love I love a lawyer.
Speaker 1: I love a county lawyer. Yeah, Like in Search Party,
Speaker 1: that woman that was Oh my god, that woman was
Speaker 1: incredible And I'm missing the greatest performance show on that character. Though.
Speaker 1: Why can I not get an entire show on that character?
Speaker 1: I want her. I don't feel like we need to
Speaker 1: relegate her to just this county lawyer. I want to
Speaker 1: see County lawyer goes home. Yes, it goes home, and
Speaker 1: at a home, it doesn't count. Factor get increased or
Speaker 1: do we see a break a different side of her
Speaker 1: construction of the County Lawyer. That's the way we need
Speaker 1: Laura dern at home and story. Yes, but this is
Speaker 1: another reason why I loved Big Little Eyes and why
Speaker 1: every time they're like, oh, we don't need another season,
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's who are you speaking for? Don't not me?
Speaker 1: Not me, Because even if it's not as quote unquote good,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if it's not the masterpiece
Speaker 1: that was the first season that was like an actual
Speaker 1: assessment of something in the culture that needed like a
Speaker 1: general like a real dramatic breakdown, which is like it
Speaker 1: ended up being this like incredible piece on domestic violence
Speaker 1: that I think no one thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be at the beginning. And then the second season was
Speaker 1: kind of more just like, Okay, it's pulp, it's Meryl
Speaker 1: Streep screaming for no reason, you know whatever, It's still
Speaker 1: Meryl strip screaming. And I'm fine with that. Yes, me too,
Speaker 1: And it's like I don't need the mystery I think
Speaker 1: people think we need. What is the mystery of the end.
Speaker 1: If you give me some great fucking characters, I'll watch
Speaker 1: them eat a eat a piece of you know meat.
Speaker 1: I don't have a big I know, eat a eat
Speaker 1: a baked potato with goddamn cavyahn't care exactly to speak
Speaker 1: on white lotus for a second. Have you all watched
Speaker 1: the first the first episode? Yes, every frame, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not cut up, and please talk about it. But
Speaker 1: there's there's only been the one. So there's been one. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm going to say something. Maybe it's a little bit unpopular,
Speaker 1: but I feel like Jennifer Coolidge thinks we expect something
Speaker 1: of her now and she's giving it's she's laying it
Speaker 1: on a little thick. I think it's it's it's coming
Speaker 1: across a little performed. It's almost coming off like Tanya
Speaker 1: mcquad two point oh and the way where I'm like
Speaker 1: to take a breath, I agree, but I think we
Speaker 1: sort of set her up for that. I don't know
Speaker 1: that she could totally win in that space as well.
Speaker 1: Let's see, let's give it a b let's us also
Speaker 1: take a breath and let you know, taking a breath. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're all taking a breath because I hear you. And
Speaker 1: yet you know, she gave us so much overseason, like
Speaker 1: you know, the first episode, we didn't know what we
Speaker 1: were for Coolidge. She could have just but then we
Speaker 1: saw her in that scene where she's just like Mommy,
Speaker 1: I'm mean, we got so many levels in that show
Speaker 1: that like we don't know, we don't know that show
Speaker 1: a levels machine. And I also love I think that
Speaker 1: so basically Bowen and like the very first team you
Speaker 1: find out that it's not just one guest that's that,
Speaker 1: it's several guests that are which I feel like it's
Speaker 1: Mike White being like as commenting on the thing of
Speaker 1: like it's the second season, you want more, Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: kill a couple more people. It won't be about that
Speaker 1: at all, which is another thing I like about White Lettles.
Speaker 1: It's like sort of masquerades as like this like murder mystery,
Speaker 1: and then there's no element of this in terms of structure,
Speaker 1: in terms of how you write a murder mystery. That's
Speaker 1: not here. It's just the story of this and this
Speaker 1: obviously the second no one's thinking about it at all
Speaker 1: as you're watching it, Like, I don't need to that.
Speaker 1: I would rather know what the thread count on the
Speaker 1: towel is at this gorgeous I'm very interested in that
Speaker 1: there was the first scene where Megan Fahey, who's by
Speaker 1: the way, so I think she's becoming movie star moment,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, probably after this, but she swims out into
Speaker 1: the ocean bowing and like literally bumps up against a carcass.
Speaker 1: Carcasses out on the ocean, carcass out there's this moment
Speaker 1: of her like like what the fund is that? Because
Speaker 1: she can feel this body and she looks and you
Speaker 1: see the body float by, and her acting in it
Speaker 1: is so good because you're just like it's like shock, disgusted, fear, panic,
Speaker 1: and then like she's like physically flinging herself out of
Speaker 1: the water trying to swim away. It's just like and
Speaker 1: then it's like white lotus, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like immediately the next scene is the hotel manager being like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're liable because it happened in the water.
Speaker 1: It's really really, it's really good. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that show is a home run. Are you guys watching
Speaker 1: the Vow season two? No, but I hear it's worth
Speaker 1: the watch because miss Thing is in it is because
Speaker 1: I think that the first part ended in a in
Speaker 1: like a sort of a loose messy way I think.
Speaker 1: But what do you guys thought? Just see Nancy Salzman,
Speaker 1: the woman that was his kind of counterpart. It's all
Speaker 1: about Nancy, and it is just wild seeing her with
Speaker 1: her ankle bracelet like Sete here with her hairless cat,
Speaker 1: just puttering around like upstick. What you're hearing sounds bad,
Speaker 1: but you're wanting to see it. You need it, you
Speaker 1: need it. Have you guys been watching The Moll I
Speaker 1: finished it. I finished it in like three days. It's
Speaker 1: iconic TV. And Joy there's a character Joy who you
Speaker 1: guys will love because she is Someone explained this to
Speaker 1: me perfectly. She is a two thousand three era reality
Speaker 1: villain plopped into phenomenal. She's confusing, she's confounding, she's a
Speaker 1: little bit stupid, a little bit of a genius. All
Speaker 1: it's all happening. It's like someone from like Early Survivor
Speaker 1: or someone from um Early I don't know, like The Mole,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's the show that was I remember the
Speaker 1: mall being around circle like like when Survivor came out
Speaker 1: was like another answer to Surer. I'm gonna say like
Speaker 1: two thousand three, two thousand four, y and it's back
Speaker 1: or has it always been going. It's been back. They
Speaker 1: only did like four or five seasons of it back
Speaker 1: in the day, and then it took a long break
Speaker 1: and they tried to bring it back in like the
Speaker 1: early didn't really work, didn't take off. I think it's
Speaker 1: been a hit, and I think the whole it's a
Speaker 1: it's a great watch the whole week through. You guys
Speaker 1: love it. Where where am I finding it? Netflix stopped
Speaker 1: their back? Netflix is back with them all? Can I
Speaker 1: throw one more show into the mixing? It's so good.
Speaker 1: I I feel I'm telling people, just person by person,
Speaker 1: which is my kids a fucking star. I'm writing this
Speaker 1: down on the greatest show of all time. They following
Speaker 1: four children in their stage parents, each child more untalented
Speaker 1: than the one before, with the exception of Shata, and
Speaker 1: the parents are so wild, but you're also feeling with
Speaker 1: the parents. You're crying, you're laughing. It is so sort
Speaker 1: of father is throwing his daughter, his talentless daughter, a
Speaker 1: gala to show her as a triple threat. She's ten.
Speaker 1: He's working her out on a pool float so that
Speaker 1: she could really get her card. You up to hit
Speaker 1: the high note. It's what we want where am I
Speaker 1: finding this? God? Where did I even? Not Discovery Plus?
Speaker 1: To me, it's giving the TV guide channel where they
Speaker 1: did show the show like up in the little like corner,
Speaker 1: But you're mostly scrolling through what's on TV raising a star.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, raising a fucking star on Star. I
Speaker 1: think you should. You should get it. You should go
Speaker 1: and be a producer on that shows and where e
Speaker 1: never forget it's actually real culture number four eight. Never
Speaker 1: don't count e out because because if you ever want
Speaker 1: to just sit your ask down and be entertained for
Speaker 1: hours on end, it's the new top model. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but Tyler Henry Hollywood medium Tyler to you from zero
Speaker 1: to a hundred, like checking every box, twig psychic, as
Speaker 1: I call him lovingly. Do you believe him? Do you
Speaker 1: believe him that? I believe him? Um? I believe that he.
Speaker 1: I believe that he is good at intuiting, and I
Speaker 1: think that there's something to that. Do I think ghosts
Speaker 1: are coming to chat with him? For tea? I think
Speaker 1: it's a great touch that he doodles while the while
Speaker 1: the ghost is in the room. I think, actually that's
Speaker 1: that's actually a perfect thin layer of theater where it's
Speaker 1: like eyes of viewer. I'm like, oh, then that that
Speaker 1: must be that's so random, that must be important. Yes,
Speaker 1: any type of crop crop. I'm like, oh, I believe
Speaker 1: that's an excercent. Do you have anything that belonged to
Speaker 1: the person? And then the woman's like yes, and they
Speaker 1: give like an old knitted scarf. It's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: wonder if this is a grandparent. And he's just he's
Speaker 1: just in his like in his mind. You can't hear it,
Speaker 1: but he's saying himself and I got these motherfucker's Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you think That's what I was gonna ask you?
Speaker 1: Do you believe he believes? That's hard, that's interesting, that's
Speaker 1: really fun. That's a really fun thing to think about.
Speaker 1: I think he I think he believes, but I think
Speaker 1: I don't believe him when he says, I don't do
Speaker 1: any research on the person. That's my question. So it's
Speaker 1: so random when he does know who the person is,
Speaker 1: Like he came in and it was like literally like
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashians like, Hi, it's nice to meet you. I
Speaker 1: had never heard of this person. And then he met
Speaker 1: little Kim and he was like, oh my god, little Kim.
Speaker 1: I'm like Mama, which Kim is famous because that doesn't
Speaker 1: even look like little Kim anymore. You didn't know that
Speaker 1: was look him. No woman had a full head trance clam.
Speaker 1: She is on the call sheet, though, I wonder if
Speaker 1: he sees his call sheets? Are the ghost number one
Speaker 1: on the call sheet right through six? Number one is
Speaker 1: scarf Number two is ghosts number one? What I You
Speaker 1: know what though? I did when he first came out,
Speaker 1: like and it was like a thing that I think
Speaker 1: I said to Bow and I was like, we should
Speaker 1: get him what is when we're recording in person a lot.
Speaker 1: I was like, if we're ever in the same city
Speaker 1: as him, get him on the pod. We should do
Speaker 1: a podcast like an episode of Last Coach, which is
Speaker 1: him reading us, and then we'd see if we became
Speaker 1: believers because they can't edit it. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: This is I'll tell you what I do. You wouldn't
Speaker 1: agree to do it anyway, but yeah, he probably wouldn't know.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't. But you know some people like when they
Speaker 1: like when Long Island Medium goes to like, oh she's
Speaker 1: very she's real. Yeah, when she goes to like Kelly
Speaker 1: Show and She's like, now, who has a son who
Speaker 1: passed from the chest, who passed from the chest, And
Speaker 1: like if a woman like devastating already ways in her hand,
Speaker 1: my daughter passed in the chest. Yeah, and she's connected
Speaker 1: with you. She wants to know. She forgives you, and
Speaker 1: I need you to be the Long Island meeting from
Speaker 1: bas from the chests. Okay, but can I say one
Speaker 1: thing about Tyler, just one quick anecdote, which is that
Speaker 1: So Alicia Cuthbert went and did the show and we
Speaker 1: have the same makeup artist and she went with her
Speaker 1: and they get there and she's touching her up and
Speaker 1: then they said to our makeup wartists, Kathleen, you need
Speaker 1: to step in the other room. And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: can I just stay here and watch the monitor because
Speaker 1: look we're reading, but the touch ups and she said no, no,
Speaker 1: Sometimes Tyler gets pulled. Someone else's energy will pull and
Speaker 1: he won't be able to read the person. So Kathy goes, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll leave. So she leaves. She comes back and they
Speaker 1: don't see her. Now she's by the monitor and Tyler says, Julicia,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing a sister who's passed from Bavarian cancer, and
Speaker 1: Alicia's like no, and my makeup artist, Kathleen tears and
Speaker 1: apparently he was talking about Kathleen's sister and that, and
Speaker 1: he pulled and he goes he was so confused that
Speaker 1: it wasn't Alicia, and then Kathleen said she had to
Speaker 1: raise her hand, and then he spoke to her for
Speaker 1: a while. So I don't know. I'm just throwing that
Speaker 1: out there because I always found that something right. I
Speaker 1: definitely want to believe it. I'm so me too. I
Speaker 1: want to believe these things. I want to believe. I'm
Speaker 1: Mulder and Scully, but I think Bowen is more Scully.
Speaker 1: I'm a little Scully. I do think there's a Jillian Anderson.
Speaker 1: I think it's jilliant. Yeah. I think that because Bone
Speaker 1: was the astrology skeptic too, and I came in being
Speaker 1: like I'm open to the tides. Now I'm like into it.
Speaker 1: You are, Bowen. We have an amazing astrologist that really
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to everything. I think, really opened my ass.
Speaker 1: We have thought, every every every whole pried open through
Speaker 1: the stars and to the stars. Who was astrologist? Can
Speaker 1: you name them? Heidi Rose Robbins. First of all, that stomach.
Speaker 1: Can follow her on Instagram telling you Rose Robbins, She's
Speaker 1: the most normal, lovely, gorgeous woman we've been I've been
Speaker 1: seen her for seventeen years. Yes, and she has predicted
Speaker 1: things all manner of things, things that are dangerous to predict.
Speaker 1: I things that you're like, don't say that to them.
Speaker 1: I was having trouble conceiving a child and you know,
Speaker 1: doing things no. And she she looked me dead in
Speaker 1: the eyes and said, you're going to be pregnant this year.
Speaker 1: Wait and then and then I was, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it had been many years struggle things where it's like,
Speaker 1: but she's so talented, and I again, I'm I'm a
Speaker 1: bit of a scully. And she turned my world around
Speaker 1: and hence like this is literally like right by the
Speaker 1: first thing I do in the more and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, here we are at the podcast recording
Speaker 1: and the tarot cards were I am Danielle, but when
Speaker 1: you were like, I pulled the crazy card and it
Speaker 1: was hope are more like nuanced? That is a crazy
Speaker 1: card these days. Hopefully I know this is coming out
Speaker 1: a day after the damn mid terms. Let's hope audacity
Speaker 1: of the audacity truly. We loo a second ago about
Speaker 1: opening our ass. Today we're going to open our amouths
Speaker 1: to do what us BEAUTI and Icono gorgeous. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been doing this for seven years, so we're gonna open
Speaker 1: our mouths and flap our gums. In a segment we
Speaker 1: call I don't think so honey, which is a sixty
Speaker 1: second segment on our podcast that we use to employ.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's money, which is a dragging
Speaker 1: of something in culture. I do have something. It's a
Speaker 1: harkening back to earlier in the episodes, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I can let this human being go any further
Speaker 1: without being dragged publicly on this podcast. We've alluded to
Speaker 1: not liking her that much before, but she needs to
Speaker 1: be I don't think so honeyed. Oh my god, that's incredible.
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey.
Speaker 1: And as time starts new, I don't think so honey,
Speaker 1: Robin Dixon, Dixon, it has to stop because, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can tell that this is yours too. I don't
Speaker 1: think money, Robin Dixon. How come there couldn't be a
Speaker 1: family funded You couldn't. You couldn't again a tray of chicken.
Speaker 1: What was happening? You couldn't get a kickball, We couldn't
Speaker 1: hire a ref w Dixon. I was so a piss
Speaker 1: that Wan Dixon was not now because he could have
Speaker 1: been the referee. He could have done something. Because God
Speaker 1: goes like what now, You're just you're gonna put Giselle
Speaker 1: in charge anytime? Just a charge's gonna run into chaos
Speaker 1: and hell a bounty house. I actually looked it up.
Speaker 1: It's three dollars for the day. Robin. I know money
Speaker 1: is tight every now and then, but and I don't
Speaker 1: know what the current financial he is, but you need
Speaker 1: to roll your ass out of bed. First of all,
Speaker 1: we had rout of bed from last season to what
Speaker 1: like like like get too potato sacks. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 1: it is not enough. We need to get you a
Speaker 1: red bull. We need to get Robin Dixon a cold brew.
Speaker 1: We need to wake her up. We need to splash
Speaker 1: some water on her face and get her off to
Speaker 1: the racist. Thank god you stuck up for Cantis. Is
Speaker 1: the only useful thing you've done in seasons. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. The way you both jumped back in
Speaker 1: your chair, you both threw yourselves across roofs. It was
Speaker 1: shocking because Robin herself has no energy, so to see
Speaker 1: energy put toward and at Robin was just so. I
Speaker 1: didn't know where to go, and you went back. I
Speaker 1: went back. I loved it. I don't necessarily agree, but
Speaker 1: that's day. That's for another day. I will say I agree.
Speaker 1: My only note for Potomac overall is that taglines are
Speaker 1: are garbage this year. They're so bad. They got one
Speaker 1: totally wrong, and I think it's actually better. What was
Speaker 1: it I got Wendy's wrong. I know she's a friend
Speaker 1: of the pod, but I thought she said, you know
Speaker 1: what I think she said. I don't have it written
Speaker 1: down anymore, but it was like, I'm like, I've got
Speaker 1: a lot of power, but I've got no time. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was I've got no time for me.
Speaker 1: It's like, so I've got a lot of I believe
Speaker 1: that because I was like, well, she really doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time for herself, but it was no
Speaker 1: time for me. But I thought it was no time
Speaker 1: for me. Listen back to it. But whenever the front
Speaker 1: front of it rhymes with me, I'm a Nigerian queen
Speaker 1: it was queen. It was like, but I thought it
Speaker 1: was I'm a Nigerian queen with no time for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the headlines really are rough. I think Canvas is as good,
Speaker 1: but I also can't remember it. I think I wrote
Speaker 1: it down but in my notes from last week's episode.
Speaker 1: But well, I don't know what it is either. But
Speaker 1: the structure for the last three seasons I think has
Speaker 1: been My now may be adjective, but my now is adjective.
Speaker 1: That's that's what it's been. Or Live. I love it
Speaker 1: a mad live. Can you see them all with the
Speaker 1: whiteboard out just coming up? I mean, my favorite thing
Speaker 1: is to imagine there are comedy rooms that they put
Speaker 1: together just to get pitched them all day. Like you
Speaker 1: ever bites Dr Tiffany Moon's candles. My bit was that
Speaker 1: she put a comedy room together to put the packaging
Speaker 1: together because there's a little jokes on them. There's so
Speaker 1: many little jokes on them. They're all named after like
Speaker 1: different drugs. Have you guys bought yourself any fresh Wolf? No,
Speaker 1: I'm not about fresh Wolf. I'm not interested in the kids. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're not interest in Budge College. Fudge College is amazing.
Speaker 1: Fudge College is iconic. Salt Like I will say, I
Speaker 1: can't just correct the record. I do love Salt Lake,
Speaker 1: and I'm loving Lisa Barlow even more than I ever have.
Speaker 1: She realized because Matt told me, and I think you're
Speaker 1: totally right. She does not She she's driving the story
Speaker 1: forward without looking like she's producing, Like you know, Jen,
Speaker 1: Heather and Meredith, I'll say, like they do a little
Speaker 1: too much meddling where it's like a little too like
Speaker 1: puppet Stringy Whitney. Whitney's hoeing journey, her helling journey. My
Speaker 1: phones were hurt, especially during my howing journey. Helen joy
Speaker 1: is that you talk. What is that? I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's botox or oh my god, botox or utah
Speaker 1: box a utah another table for you guys. That's really
Speaker 1: good to You had to name a lot of hot wives, yea, honestly,
Speaker 1: but okay, so but you guys are your pro Robin.
Speaker 1: I love her because again, and I wouldn't think someone's
Speaker 1: so sleepy I could get behind. Usually I like a
Speaker 1: more energetic wife. But they're but there's something about it.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like Steven Right as a comedian,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're giving a very old reference,
Speaker 1: just a different way. Yeah. Yeah, she's a different kind
Speaker 1: of housewife. One that's barely I know. But that's a
Speaker 1: new flavor. We haven't seen that sleepy flavor before. I'm
Speaker 1: into it. We ordered her hats and we did you
Speaker 1: ever get them? I finally did, But when I tell
Speaker 1: you emails upon emails about we're going to think about
Speaker 1: getting them to you, it was so many updates and
Speaker 1: so many emails. It's just sent from her, like not
Speaker 1: even like a male chimp account, like just like like
Speaker 1: Robin Dixon like and she was just like, guys, I
Speaker 1: know I'm disappointing you, and I'm sorry. And then she
Speaker 1: was like, if you really need them, you can email me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as opposed to them, we really need anything, just send
Speaker 1: my money on I really need if you really need them.
Speaker 1: She wasn't because it was the holiday season. She was like,
Speaker 1: if you really because everyone bought them for like gifts
Speaker 1: last year for holidays, and she was like, if you
Speaker 1: really need to buy Christmas, like, I can do my best.
Speaker 1: I mean. One of my favorite things Bone said on
Speaker 1: the pod was Robin is two hundred thousand dollars in debt.
Speaker 1: She can hat in a box. She can't, she can't,
Speaker 1: she can't listen. Are we all doing Housewives? I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, because I will gladly I mine was
Speaker 1: the Housewives. I don't think so honey. But Danielle, we're
Speaker 1: going to go together. We do have. It's a former
Speaker 1: housewife though. Oh you're gonna go together. I love it,
Speaker 1: really cool. I really like that. Okay, that's never never done.
Speaker 1: But first, yeah, you got it. Okay, this is Boone
Speaker 1: Yang's I don't think so, honey. His time on his
Speaker 1: birthday starts now. I don't think so honey. Trips to
Speaker 1: Arizona or to Zion. I think you are going too
Speaker 1: much to this part of the country that I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think people really need to see you anymore.
Speaker 1: I think we understand what goes on there, and I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not saying this in like a fly over
Speaker 1: state away as someone who grew up in Colorado. I
Speaker 1: just mean that, like the pandemic is sort of like
Speaker 1: allowing travel to happen again to far flung places. We're
Speaker 1: done with American designations. I don't think we need to
Speaker 1: say I think I think we've also just like run
Speaker 1: the tank on those places across shows, across franchises. Let's
Speaker 1: go back to UM, I'll say, at Turks and Caicos,
Speaker 1: not to you know, overlap there, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's leave the country. Let's get these women their passports,
Speaker 1: you know, renewed UM just so that they can for
Speaker 1: the betterment of their own lives. I feel I'm a
Speaker 1: little bit bored of the mainland destinations. Go to Hawaiian
Speaker 1: Let's go to Alaska at least if you're not going
Speaker 1: to leave the US. That's what I have to say.
Speaker 1: And that's why a minute, I think that I completely
Speaker 1: agree with you. Like even even the Real Housewives New
Speaker 1: Jersey Nashville trip that was fun, but like it's so American,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's go places we know. We can
Speaker 1: book Thailand, like we can do other things. Jen show
Speaker 1: cannot leave the country as a convicted felon. But then
Speaker 1: Jen stays home Hawaii. You're right, and Jen stays home. Yes,
Speaker 1: but I think why they could go to Alaska, we
Speaker 1: could go to New York City, would even be something,
Speaker 1: give us something. These airbnbs they're all blending together with
Speaker 1: the grill in the tope, grugs. I can't. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, or Mexico City. Have they have any of
Speaker 1: the women done? Mexico City? You know when we were
Speaker 1: there for New Year's I think we even said out loud,
Speaker 1: this would be a good housewife's trip. Absolutely can't go,
Speaker 1: she cannot. I'm not saying result. I'm saying for like
Speaker 1: a lot of this. And I know, I know we're
Speaker 1: coming out of pandemic stuff, but I feel like we
Speaker 1: got to mix it up again. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see an airbnb, not again. I can't that culture to me.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all set. I'd like to see a hotel.
Speaker 1: I also think I'm wrapped. I'm a wrap on skiing.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see skiing anymore. Like I feel
Speaker 1: like I see skiing on Beverly Hills on Salt like
Speaker 1: they're these women are always skiing and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: understand this is a thing that turns them on, but
Speaker 1: no more skiing for me. I'd like to see them
Speaker 1: at the beach. I'm a wrap on them all pedaling
Speaker 1: a bike together and yeah, a drink bike. I'm dead
Speaker 1: and I'm done. Done. They were trying so hard to like.
Speaker 1: The Salt Lake City girls were quote unquote having so
Speaker 1: much fun. I'm like, y'all, don't y'all are gassing. Meredith
Speaker 1: Mars is not throwing whipping alcohol in someone's face. It
Speaker 1: was so painful. No, no, she is not. It's just
Speaker 1: not her energy. She would not engage in the activities
Speaker 1: such as this. Um but and I think that one's
Speaker 1: important for the culture. Thank you for offering it. Um So,
Speaker 1: So we're to understand that Daniel and Casey will do
Speaker 1: a joint. I don't think so, honey, huge, Yes, this
Speaker 1: Power of two Voices, because it's a big one. The
Speaker 1: Power of Two Voices is also a front runner for
Speaker 1: title of app The Power of Two Voices. How I
Speaker 1: keep tossing about your machine. Okay, so this is a joint.
Speaker 1: This is for the first time ever in Lost Culture history.
Speaker 1: But when how exciting is that to say? In the
Speaker 1: seven years of this program we have not the fact
Speaker 1: that they're still first, So so refreshing. Well. This podcast
Speaker 1: has received critical acclaim and has been cited in academic
Speaker 1: work for the host inside into the entertainment industry. That's
Speaker 1: on our Wikipedia page. We don't make the rules, nor
Speaker 1: do we edit the page. Um, but this is daniel Snyders.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Their time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Bethany Frankel, I think we've had
Speaker 1: enough with the tutorials. Number one, at least place yourself
Speaker 1: somewhere else than in your closet with cle messy kind
Speaker 1: of cabinet behind you. I'm all set with your new
Speaker 1: podcast idea, Danielle, this new podcast idea, how dare you?
Speaker 1: First of all, is it a conflict of interest for us?
Speaker 1: Of course it save some For the rest of us.
Speaker 1: We liked you when you were sort of humanitarian housewives.
Speaker 1: You say you're done with it, you've moved on. You
Speaker 1: don't need to be doing a rewatch, and you've named
Speaker 1: it rewise. I can't don't understand it. Also, you have
Speaker 1: to come when you were doing a Healthwives podcast, and
Speaker 1: I say this, you have to come from it with love.
Speaker 1: And you have such est sin. You look on the
Speaker 1: on the Healthwives with disdain and now you're trying to
Speaker 1: and I know you have a beauty line coming. That's
Speaker 1: why you're tearing Everyone else is down in luand al
Speaker 1: Step said, this is a failed pivot and that should
Speaker 1: be the name of my new memoir. But it is
Speaker 1: another failed pivot. Wow. And that is one minute, and
Speaker 1: that is this is this is something we really need
Speaker 1: to hear, because when I heard she was doing this,
Speaker 1: I too thought it was capital papathetic. Yes, she's lost,
Speaker 1: she's lost, she's lost, I thought, in the words of
Speaker 1: what she said to Jill, many jills are in many
Speaker 1: years ago. Get a hobby. That's the name, Frank. Yes,
Speaker 1: she's really spinning the wheels. And if you ever watch
Speaker 1: her on TikTok, that is a film that I would
Speaker 1: like to see one of these actresses you mentioned earlier
Speaker 1: take on, just like a ninety minute film of Bethany Frankel,
Speaker 1: the rise and fall of the past six months of
Speaker 1: her on TikTok taking on the establishment because she felt
Speaker 1: she was shadow band, committing to her small following, ultimately
Speaker 1: Decott deciding this isn't for me. I'm going to do podcast. Yes,
Speaker 1: we went from makeup tutorials to those makeup tutorials are insane.
Speaker 1: The lighting. I've only seen the lighting on them in
Speaker 1: quick and quick little moments. I'm like, oh, there's the
Speaker 1: setup is all wrong. Yeah. And also it's like it's
Speaker 1: okay to be like, the makeup tutorial is fun. It's
Speaker 1: not like a comments on appearance or anything. Because when
Speaker 1: you come up with like like for example, like when
Speaker 1: you're doing a weight loss thing and you show it
Speaker 1: before and after, like the drop it withdrew of it all,
Speaker 1: and you show it before and after, and the before
Speaker 1: and after looks the same, that's not us commenting on
Speaker 1: your physique. That's us commenting on your business. It's like
Speaker 1: it looks like so you've literally showed us up before
Speaker 1: and after, so now it's fair game. Bethany Frankel in
Speaker 1: Horrid Lightings doing a makeup tutorial and then not looking good.
Speaker 1: That is weird game for us to be able to say, hey, mom,
Speaker 1: I don't know a woman who brought a skinny girl
Speaker 1: is now attacking photoshop and women's body image. It's I'm
Speaker 1: I'm upset with myself that I didn't include that in
Speaker 1: my minute. She's trying to pivot and say like, well,
Speaker 1: skinny girl really isn't about way, Like it's like she's
Speaker 1: as opposed to Yeah, you know what that was at
Speaker 1: a time when I thought that was important, like either
Speaker 1: own it or don't own it, but she she's like
Speaker 1: trying to ride that line in the middle. And sorry,
Speaker 1: now we don't believe. I appreciate her humanitarian work, but
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I find it interesting. She can so
Speaker 1: show such great compassion, but it's always not to actual people,
Speaker 1: you know, people who are like dog people or she
Speaker 1: had a remove. I think she seems to have a
Speaker 1: very big she has a very big heart, and it's amazing,
Speaker 1: but there's something like in person, she's the least warm human.
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's um she is, and like one
Speaker 1: of those angiograms or whatever that it's like she is
Speaker 1: an achiever and she's an individualist where it's like her
Speaker 1: she's like putting the achievement in like sort of like
Speaker 1: altruistic thing of like here, I'm helping the people of
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico out. But it's like and I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like to accuse anyone of this, but it feels
Speaker 1: self serving. Well, I think anything she does, like even
Speaker 1: I'm glad she's doing it. Fine, let it be self serving,
Speaker 1: but it is like we can't acknowledge that, like she
Speaker 1: is helping I'm glad she has continued to do that,
Speaker 1: continue to self serve, but it is serving herself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that the difference is that when it
Speaker 1: is a large group of amorphous people, she's not seeing
Speaker 1: it's like she she can commit to that, but then
Speaker 1: in basic humanity, one on one interactions, she's actually quite cruel,
Speaker 1: like it's it goes beyond just like, oh, that's something
Speaker 1: nasty on housewives like lu Anne, Like I think when
Speaker 1: she came up for air years later and was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, the worst thing anyone's ever done to me
Speaker 1: was bring the cameras into that room and show me
Speaker 1: a text that obviously she had, like she had premeditated this,
Speaker 1: and on camera she showed me my husband was cheating
Speaker 1: on me. And I begged her not to. I said,
Speaker 1: don't do it. And of course now it made an
Speaker 1: iconic scene. Question mark, you know it made an iconic scene.
Speaker 1: I want you to to do this to me. Question But
Speaker 1: but that was the worst moment of her life, I
Speaker 1: will say, And this is a sketch that no one
Speaker 1: has to watch, no one. I'm not doing that thing
Speaker 1: where I'm like I wrote a sketch. We did a
Speaker 1: sketch last night, me and Sarah Sherman where we're jurors
Speaker 1: and we're screaming and everything we're reacting in this scary
Speaker 1: like oh no, no, no, please please don't But it's
Speaker 1: it was from the source of it all was Sarah
Speaker 1: and I were laughing at that moment in that string
Speaker 1: of episodes when Bethany tells Ramona about the cheating and
Speaker 1: then Ramona goes like Ramona just screams and runs to
Speaker 1: the bathrooms, just like, look at me, to look at
Speaker 1: herself in the mirror, look at me, look at me,
Speaker 1: so funny, look at me. I'm crying. Is so Sarah
Speaker 1: Sherman came on and she killed me. I love her, so,
Speaker 1: she said Lisa in his hair at Sutton's tracks. Was
Speaker 1: blown back by the speed of light, blown back by
Speaker 1: Sarah's at Star and she and Bow and her sisters
Speaker 1: at the show, love love, love, love her. Well, this
Speaker 1: has been pretty much everything I could have ever wanted
Speaker 1: it to be. It's been a long time coming for
Speaker 1: you guys to be on. When you will return, so
Speaker 1: much fun and hey, where can people get your podcast?
Speaker 1: All your podcast Netflix dot com, Netflix dot com. You're
Speaker 1: so lovely and warm. I love listening to you. You're
Speaker 1: just such a highlight in a light in this world,
Speaker 1: truly at an exaggeration. No, I love you guys so much.
Speaker 1: And even though we were both against each other for
Speaker 1: the people's choice, the words what a moment in history
Speaker 1: and we do we both do? We we both lost
Speaker 1: who one did it was? Was it like reasonably shady?
Speaker 1: I think something out something else like doctor's in the
Speaker 1: house or something. I don't know what it was. Danielle.
Speaker 1: Danielle bought a dress the day we were nominated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I bought a dress and then they were like, yeah,
Speaker 1: only for us to find we were not invited. But
Speaker 1: that's okay, that's she used to buy address. Of course
Speaker 1: you were nominated for a And also wait, did wait
Speaker 1: one more thing? Did you know? I just did Melissa
Speaker 1: Gorgon's podcast and we are the best of friends now
Speaker 1: and I know I'm going to get drunk with her
Speaker 1: and her husband. You don't think she's going to be
Speaker 1: on Masked as a villain this year? I don't care, okay,
Speaker 1: because I am like, I am like and die Teresa.
Speaker 1: I I I am allergic to Teresa. Okay, No, I'm
Speaker 1: not Teresa Hive. But that's I guess that's for Part two.
Speaker 1: Guys are the best. Daniel and Casey, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for doing the show, Thank you for having us.
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