1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you? Why bow and look 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness Dingdal lost 3 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: culture rests calling well. First of all, it is a 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: great prosperous a moment in the culture, is a great 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: landmark day in world culture. It is the birthday of 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: Bone Yang and Rebecca Romaine and Stone. I think Ethan 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: Hawk shut up. It's a good birthday. And myself, not 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: including myself, I'm saying a lot of great people who 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: we love it in mire share a day with me. Wait, 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: there's one more that's like Sally Field, Sally phild And 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: I was just with Sam at brunch. I'm broadcasting live 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: from the Palm Springs Ace Hotel. I'm broadcasting live from 13 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: Hotel Chelsea, haunted place. Now talk about that? Is it 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: sort of Divicious killed his girlfriend here? You're kidding me? 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: That asshole? That asshole? What an asshole jerk? A Mandela 16 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: Poor lives here, Hattie Smith, Ryan Adams wort of song 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: about Hotel Chelsea. But we don't like him anymore. But 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: after what he did to Mandy more unforgivable. No, and 19 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: you can't cross Mandy. It's actually a real culture. It's 20 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: it's a lost culture. Is this thing like, it's real culture. 21 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:18,279 Speaker 1: If you cross Mandy, you crossed us. What rule numbers 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: that too? That's real culture number two. That's way up there. 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: It's so important, you know. I would like to have 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Mandy Moore on the podcast. I have so many things 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: to ask her. We need to get Adam Shankman to 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: like send in some questions and have it be like 27 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: a pseudo Walk to Remember reunion, because I told Adam 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: Shankman myself, I said the DVD commentary of A Walk 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,040 Speaker 1: to Remember, it's Adam Shakeman, Mandy Moore, and Shane Wes. 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 1: The three of them are having a blast laughing at 31 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: Darryl Hannah's wigs. It is a who in half and 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: the three of them love each other. You can tell. Wait, 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: hold on. Something that gets lost in the conversation about 34 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: A Walk to Remember is dar mom Oh my god. Wow. 35 00:01:58,040 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: That needs to be more of a topic. And every 36 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: day called people don't talk about Darryl Hannah's wiggs from 37 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: that old movie from I Feel Like I Want to 38 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: Remember was one of the last times where Christian culture 39 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: and gay culture intersected, and then since then it's just 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: been a diverging path. Well, you know what I'll always 41 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: remember about. I want to remember it was late in 42 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: afternoon last four and soon wait what our vocalist of 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: Vocalista many more, Oh my god, the Tangled reprises. I'm 44 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: talking about the reprise for Mother Knows Best and when 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Will My Life Began? Oh, don't even get me started now. 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm rock hard thinking about the second reprise of That's 47 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: when My Life be games? Good luck to everyone in 48 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: this hotel. She literally touches grass or to use that 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: term from the Internet, for the first time and sings 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: It's perfect musical theater moment. Her emotions are so strong 51 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: that she has to say she has no other choice, 52 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: hitting the pause button. Smack. What is touches grass? Oh, 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: it's like when someone's like two online, you're like you 54 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: should touch go and touch grass. You know. I'm really 55 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: happy I know that now because I'll use that a lot. 56 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: But it's it's already on its way out, like people 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: are already using it too much. Well, shit, I just 58 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: fell on you just fell in love with it. It's 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: like what Eva Longoria says in Desperate Housewives, but we've 60 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: already fallen in love with her. Oh my god, it's 61 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: just like that that was a great art. Speaking of housewives, 62 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: I was just talking about Desperate house as the day. 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Actually it's due for combat. I can feel it. I 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: can feel the ground swell of Desperate Housewives culture making 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: a huge return. Yeah, because I'll tell you what's back. 66 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: Funny satire. Um, it's been gone and now it's back. 67 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: We need social suburban satire now. Although I don't think 68 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: they can reboot it, because can you really give Felicity 69 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: of a job now, major criminal, big felon, huge Hollywood felon, 70 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: Felicity Hoffman. But I think she released one of the 71 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: better Hollywood apologies in the last five years. You think 72 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: this way. I thought her apology was nice and messed up. 73 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: That William H. Macy kind of not involved in that 74 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: sort of crucifixion, hands clean of the whole situation. Willie 75 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: definitely sucked off a dean. You know, he knew he 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: sucked off a dean. He walked down to college, you 77 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: pen and sucked the dean. And before we can say that, 78 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 1: starts saying that bravely, bravely, proudly and bravely, bravely new 79 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: use a touch of grass. Before we can bravely say 80 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: on Musculturis this that William H. Macy has been sucking 81 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 1: the cock of every dean in college industrial complex the 82 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: nation over, Then we can't say we're a podcast that 83 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: breaks ground. And speaking of podcasts that breakground today is 84 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: actually a huge deal in podcasting history because it's too 85 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: critically acclaimed podcasts sort of getting together to shoot the ship. Absolutely, well, 86 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: let's just keep it at that. I don't want to 87 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: limit us because I feel like the four of us 88 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: together this is I not want to really say this 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 1: and self label in this way, but this is powerful. 90 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Not since Marcia Cross, even Terry Hatcher and I'm one 91 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: of America's biggest criminals. Felicity Huffman got together. Don't forget 92 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 1: nicolet Sheridan Honey, there's not a fifth and I'm sorry, 93 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: but she was supporting and had she known that, she 94 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten too the trouble she got in. She 95 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: needed to know her place, She need to be thankful 96 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: she came there, hit her mark, do her sassy one liners, 97 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: and get the hell out. The fact that they even 98 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: gave her deep arcs was huge. It's true, and we 99 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: could get more into that because you know who they 100 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: throw around her name as as a potential Beverly Hills 101 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: cast member. Let's talk about it with our guests. Our 102 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: guests are so wonderful, incredible comedians, real hot wives of Elando, 103 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: real hot wives of Vegas and more, I mean incredible 104 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: actresses and writers in their own right. They also host 105 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: the truly iconic podcast bit Sesh, the kind of podcast 106 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: that you go on and then a hundred people come 107 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: out of the woodwork, as they say, and they say, wow, 108 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: you were on bitches. That was amazing, people from high school. Yeah, 109 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: that's the power. Damn, that's the power. Like we said, 110 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: they are the host of bitch That. We are so 111 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: happy and it was long overdo It's actually humiliating. It's 112 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: taken the song to get them on. But please welcome 113 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: into your ears. I hear on last culture as this 114 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: let's go, We're off. This does feel like a meeting 115 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: of the minds. I'm going to try not to. I'm 116 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: so excited to be here and with my brethren that 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: i feel like I don't want to talk too much, 118 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,720 Speaker 1: you know, like I want to like, just why else 119 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: did we bring you on? You have to talk crucial 120 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: that you talk. No, But I'm so excited, I'll just 121 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: have like Diary of the Mouth. I'm trying to like 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: chill myself. I mean, look, we've already said that William H. 123 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: Macy sucks. I've been angry that he has really gotten 124 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: to the background and had no repercussions. He's on TV 125 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: left and right. Yeah, I want to say, guys, hi, 126 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be here. But I am wearing 127 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: a jumpsuit that last Halloween I pulled out two seconds 128 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: before my kids started took retreating. I took a piece 129 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: of tape, I wrote Felicity Huffman, innate whatever on here, 130 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: and I got an s a t prep book and 131 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: I walked out the house. And so it feels right 132 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: that I'm wearing this to to be with you all 133 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: on this incredible pod. Very so, did she do a 134 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: hard time? She did do a little time. I think 135 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: she did like fourteen dates. I'm not even kidding. I 136 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: think Lori did like two months. Yeah, Lori, you know, 137 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: got her daughter on like an a rowing machine, and 138 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: that costs more in the eyes of a lot. That's 139 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: soft time time, that's soft mochi bite time just really 140 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: pillowy and juicy and whatever. Well, that's like Hollywood prison. 141 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: It's true. But I'm ready to forgive. I don't know 142 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: about Lorie, but I'm ready forgive Felicity. I forgive them absolutely. 143 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: You know, forgiveness is a major part of the human condition, 144 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: and I'm so happy that we're talking about it here. 145 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: Forgiveness so important. When was the time that you forgave? Never? 146 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: Not once? Yeah, I heard that if this podcast all 147 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden became very Burnet Brown, like you didn't 148 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: realize that we had pivoted, we get decided to TiVo 149 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes before. It's more about humans run screaming. Berne 150 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: is not even about forgiveness though. Anyway, I don't understand Burnet, 151 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: and I know I'm alone in this and I'm going 152 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: to hear about it. No, it's okay, should be yeah, okay, 153 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: what's confusing? We don't have to unpack her. I just 154 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: the whole like vulnerability thing. I just I don't know. 155 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: It's She's not it for me in that world. And 156 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: I will go to every unaccredited spiritual healer in the 157 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: broken City. You I'll give anyone two dollars and take 158 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: their advice. But something about her hasn't grabbed me. Okay, 159 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: am no, no, no, no, no, no, You're not wrong 160 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: at all, because I think vulnerability became like the catch 161 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: all phrase in her work, and it's not the thing. 162 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that's the thing she should be known for. 163 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: I think anything she should be known for shame, or 164 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: at least emotional linguistics, like the act of naming your 165 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: emotions as you feel them helps shape the experience of 166 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: what you're going through. Well, you have just said, I 167 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: have understood it so much more because both ability. I 168 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: was hanging my hat on that word, know what was 169 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: happening with it. But shame I can Okay, I'm recontextualize shame. 170 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: Shame I got, I would. I can hang my hat 171 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: on shame any day of the week. I get out, 172 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I get a hat. Stand. I remember she came up 173 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: with her like HBO Max series that was recently out. 174 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: I drank a weed Seltzer, got out of notebook. I 175 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: was taking notes. Okay, I was like, all right, I'm here, 176 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go, I'm in class. I paid more 177 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: attention to her as like a professor than any college course. Wow, 178 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: and you got a lot out of it, a lot? Okay, 179 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: I used to drive around this city of angels and 180 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: just play her books in the car and weep like 181 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: that was like when I couldn't afford therapy. Brown and 182 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: me and my car were just like, this is right, 183 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: this feels great. Yeah, that's incredible worth the price of gas. Meanwhile, 184 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: I have like a gift certificate to see a wizard, 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: and that is not a joke. So I think it's 186 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: time to who gave it to you? How much is 187 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: it for which wizard? My friend caught she's a dog 188 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: therapist and she gave me a certificate to a wizard, 189 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: and she's just like, he'll change your life. There's no 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: other He goes by wizard, and I wish I could 191 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: call him by any other aim a rose that smells. 192 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: He goes by wizard. So his name is wizard and 193 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: his occupation is yeah, wizardry, And you know again, I 194 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: will see anyone. So I'm looking forward to his teachings 195 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: at amazing two hour session. I don't know what's going 196 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: to happen there. But you haven't You haven't done yet. No, No, 197 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: I just had my gift certificate and it has to 198 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: print out. Amazing. What do you what do you hope 199 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: will or could happen. I mean, oh my gosh, there's 200 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: so many possibilities. Whatever this wizard says will be like 201 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: that's the thing I've needed this whole time, and I'm 202 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: so stupid and everything I've done up till now is 203 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: like a fraud, and so I hope for anything he 204 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 1: tells me, I'll latch onto. I'm sure have you guys 205 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: done the because now the big thing is terror readings 206 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: on apps like you Chat with the Terror. So I 207 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: downloaded Sanctuary in addition to other astrology stuff, and you 208 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: can pay for a dollar a minute or some some 209 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,200 Speaker 1: people like five dollars a minute. Some people really charge up, 210 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: but um I did one. And this lady was like, 211 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: you should consider past life analysis. And I'm like, okay, 212 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: this has gone too far, but maybe should consider spending 213 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: more money here see bowen. When I hear that, I'm like, 214 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: wonderful and thank the right by my past? Is this 215 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: beautiful tarotok? The mysteries of love? What does that say? 216 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: Oracle decks, the greatest oracle deck of all time. You 217 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: pull your card today, show the cards, Daniel, just show 218 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: how gorgeous they are. Yes, this is the card that 219 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: I pulled today. I'm just gonna show you this is 220 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: important hope. Oh my god, that today and that's a 221 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: beautiful photo to that orchid is very gorgeous. Yes, I'm 222 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna call it an orchid. Those cards were gorgeous, Cobalt 223 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: blue and goal. Yeah. Okay. So with the theme of 224 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: hope on today's episode, and then the theme of the 225 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: episode is of course hope forgiveness and hopefully betterment and 226 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: shame and shame, I want to say some names for you, 227 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: which this is what US Weekly reports, Okay, and this 228 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: was this is a report that just came out. I 229 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: don't know if we're seeing this. And again it is 230 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: way too early. And this is almost definitely. Of course 231 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: they've seen it. It was on my Google alert this morning. 232 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: But please proceed. I want to say these following names. 233 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Brandy Glanville, Kyle Richards, Lisa vander Pump, Sutton Strack, Erica 234 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Jane Garcel, friend of Doriet Kemsley. Do we have hope 235 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: for this? Is this possible? Can this happen? So? Ren 236 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: is not mentioned at all. She is not no, no, Diana, 237 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:43,359 Speaker 1: no Crystal. Wow, you know what right? His rain right? Beautiful? Perfect? 238 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: I love the reintroduction of one Lisa vander Pump to 239 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: take everything off of its heels, like everybody feels like 240 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: it has to happen. Yeah, it feels nice. That feels 241 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: real good. I don't need Lisa back, Lisa vander Pump 242 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: back personally, but I'm ready to set sail to I 243 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: think she's a ghoul. Yeah, it's it's become very ghoulish. 244 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 1: It's become like it's become well, now it's like it's 245 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: there's a sort of thing where they're like, say it's 246 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: say it's say it's a Crystal all season about whatever 247 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: this dark thing was. And now I'm like, Tarna, Okay, 248 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: say it. What is it that Kathy said that was 249 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: so coolul crazy? What does it? Say it? Yeah, nobody will. 250 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: If you can't say it, you're off my screen. You 251 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: gotta say it. Crystal is just too normal to me. 252 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: I know moms that know her. I don't want that. 253 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to have one connection to these people. 254 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate her beauty as well. I mean, I love 255 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: something to feast my eyes upon and I you know 256 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: what I mean, And she is gorgeous, So for that 257 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: reason alone, I like her in the cast and I 258 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: do think she calls people out, you know, in a 259 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: way that some of the other girls don't. She's willing 260 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: to speak truth to power, which I enjoy. But she 261 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: is normal. She's someone i'd be friends with him. That's difficult. 262 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: But it's when she calls people is when it's a 263 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: good TV and she seems reticent and reluctant to do 264 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: that until she's shoved into the court, like she really 265 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: had to get backed up at the reunion for her 266 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: to blow up a it was this is what I'll say, Like, 267 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: when I knew it was going to be a bad 268 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: season for Kyle, I was like, oh no, like bummer, 269 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: I love Kyle. And then by the end, I was like, no, 270 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: she really needed to have a bad season, because this 271 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: is what I'll say about Kyle Richards. I don't think 272 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: I've ever heard anyone say the word me more like 273 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: everything is me. It only hurts me. It hurts me 274 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: when you do this. It's me, and I have to 275 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: deal with it. Me me me. Meanwhile, whenever anyone else 276 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: has any issues, she's sort of like, why are you 277 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: upset about that? Like dismissing every single thing Crystal said 278 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: all season at in regards to how she was feeling 279 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: and how she was experiencing things. She sort of does 280 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: it with Garcel to which you know not to say 281 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: too much, but there's a common thread there. It seems 282 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: like she has some blindness, will say, and I just 283 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: feel like there's a self centered nous, which in the 284 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: past has been cute, and now it's just like, no, 285 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: like you can't just do this queen bee thing anymore. 286 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: Like in an environment where these are not actually women 287 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: that are your natural friends anymore, they're like not scared 288 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: of you in the same way, and so they're going 289 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: to call out the fact that you center yourself constantly. 290 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: And I think that seems to be what Kathy Hilton's 291 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: biggest issue with her is is that no matter what, 292 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: it always is all about Kyle. And that's something you 293 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: learned to like stop doing, like in your mid twenties, 294 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: not your mid fifties. Wow. Well, you know they say 295 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: you get stuck at the age you get famous at. 296 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: That's what they do say. And these women, especially the 297 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: younger or Kim and Kyle, have been famous for a 298 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: very long time and they are all under the still 299 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: under the heavy foot of big Kath Big Kathy. She's 300 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: looming large over all of this. He was very from 301 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: this guy, from this guy, MoMA Cathy. Have any of 302 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: you ever met Kathy Hilton in person? I wouldn't, dare 303 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: I did. Wow. So I met her at an Emon 304 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: Marcus event a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, on a 305 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: shopping Spria. I was on a shop and actually I wasn't. 306 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: It was very much like it was like a fancy 307 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: weird It was pre Halloween and they were having like 308 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: a Christmas event and Lupine and was there most beautiful 309 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: woman I have ever seen in person, truly stunning. There 310 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: were other people there too, and then Kathy Hilton was there, 311 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: and I guess someone that works for her was like, 312 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: do you want to meet Kathy? And I was like, 313 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I guess, so I guess I have 314 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: to here I am I being asked. So I went 315 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: over to her, and like when she shakes her hand, 316 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: she looks you dead in the eyes and sort of 317 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 1: says hi, and then like expects you to say something, 318 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: And all I could get out was Hi, Kathy, it's 319 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: nice to meet you, and I just want to say 320 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: Team Kathy. And she goes and then someone next to 321 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: me was like, I actually know a mutual a friend 322 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: of yours. And she goes, oh, of course, of course yes, 323 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: and then she had a conversation with them. But all 324 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: I could say was team Cathy. And here's why she's 325 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: much scarier than you think she's going to be. I 326 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: believe that, I believe very intimidating, really much less cuddly, 327 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: less cuddly, it's less what a goof and more like, 328 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: oh my god. I was just gonna say, we've been 329 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: on such a journey with her because I think we 330 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: thought we knew Kathy and then she comes on the 331 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: show and we're all like, that's not the Cathy we thought, 332 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: like with this box fan and daughtering around and we 333 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: were so excited. It wasn't the Caty we thought that. 334 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: Then when she was unmasked as the Kathy we knew 335 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: her to be before, we're now also confused. So you 336 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: hear that in person she's tough. Is I'm taking it in, 337 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: you know? And it wasn't It wasn't even tough. It 338 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: wasn't even like she wasn't nice. She was like she 339 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: fully came over and shook my hand, took a picture 340 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: with us, and like then she went on her marry 341 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: a way. But I guess what I'm saying is in person, 342 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: it's an intimid dating vibe. Like it's not like, Hi, 343 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: it's not warm, It's very like in the way that 344 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: it's like her house is like, you know, very well decorated, 345 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: but there's like a coldness and how like calculated the 346 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: decoration is. Like That's kind of what I'm responding to 347 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: is it's like a very put together Beverly Hills woman 348 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: who's like in charge. Kyle on the other hand, Casey 349 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,479 Speaker 1: and I have met Kyle and been in her house 350 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: and the one in in Cino, the one that that 351 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: it's like a mansion with a dog mansion side of it. 352 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: We've been there and Kyle could not be warmer. Yeah, 353 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense. And she did do the splits on 354 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: that black and white parquet floor, which nobody at well 355 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: with Kathy. I feel like Kathy has the teeth obsession 356 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: is alarming, a huge red flag. The birth order is 357 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: important here to consider, and I feel like Cathy is 358 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: a perfect example of like her sinality determinism, where you're like, 359 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: can people really change? Maybe not? Maybe she is She's 360 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: always who she always was, and like and like what 361 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: Casey's saying, like she was not like the cuddly goof, 362 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: she never was that person. Like we caught like they 363 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: show caught her in that little moment where she seemed 364 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: to have like had a quirky little phase for a 365 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: few months. You know. Yeah, this is the brine Brown. 366 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I want to listen to the thing about the Kathy 367 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Hilton of it all is it is there is a 368 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: huge element of darkness here with the Paris Hilton school 369 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: of it all. And also I was recently watching the 370 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 1: Bling Ring documentary Yes so bo when I told you 371 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,160 Speaker 1: about it last week, So there's a Netflix documentary and 372 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: obviously Paris Hilton was one of the people robbed by 373 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: the Bling Ring. And they're the point in the episode 374 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: where Paris is like sort of dancing like like sort 375 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: of you know, seductively and like maybe she's a little 376 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: drunk or whatever. This is like height of Paris, like 377 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: two thousand six seven. In the background is Kathy just 378 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: sort of standing there with arms folded, like smiling a smile. 379 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, this is not like I gotta bring 380 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: my fan with me. I wear slippers in the airport. 381 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Energy this is like a calculated family decision to have 382 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: the fame be this type of thing, you know, like 383 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: it's you know what I'm saying, Like it's not all 384 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: peaches and creams. Yeah. And I also think, and I 385 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: feel like I've been saying this for a little while, 386 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: which is that like we don't get a Paris to 387 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: Hilton and a Baron Hilton. I don't know from but 388 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: we don't get those two I don't know from Nikki. 389 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: Is the title of that I don't. I don't know 390 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: from Nicki, But I don't you don't get those two 391 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: pieces of let's honestly be true garbage without somebody else, 392 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not saying we're all to blame 393 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: for our children. Who knows my child could be a 394 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: seo real killer and I refused to take responsibility for it. 395 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: But I just feel like it, like Carthy, I feel 396 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: Cathy looming over them. I don't it was fun to 397 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: see her us this dottering thing, and I do believe 398 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 1: that that is a part of her personality. But there 399 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: is darkness there. There's power play there. To talk about 400 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: darkness in a way that feels um like exceptional within 401 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: Housewives is wild bingo, like everybody's dark right for us 402 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: to really see that and all agree they're it's like, 403 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,400 Speaker 1: you know what I do like about Kathy is how 404 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 1: for some reason her and Garcella is like exempt from 405 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 1: all her Like at no point was gonna like and 406 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: wait till what she said about Garcella and Kathy is 407 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: always in the corner with Carsella being liketh almost like 408 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: she's always pulling Garcella off, like you get it funny, 409 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: a little odd little pair there. But yeah, and I 410 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: always forget that Kathy and Crystal or BFF, like, oh 411 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: what's that about? It would seem that they had never 412 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 1: seen each other on the street. Remember when she came 413 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: over to yeh, when she came over to visit was 414 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: like hey and then sat down and I was like, oh, y'all, 415 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: y'all just have Okay, here's a question. Is Beverly Hills 416 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: the darkest franchise? Yes, at this moment, yes, I think. 417 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: I for a while I thought Orange County was so 418 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: dark because that is a is a franchise built on 419 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: like it's a it's a house of cards, like there's 420 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: no money, there's no culture, no culture in Orange County. 421 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: It's actually shocking. It's like a kitchen island is the culture. Yeah, 422 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 1: it's like we just redid the kitchen island, and that 423 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: kitchen island is made from cardboard. Like there's no like 424 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: if you took off the four mica it would be cardboard, 425 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: and there's no real structures, Like there's no money, there's 426 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: no personality, there's no there there. And so I find 427 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:02,239 Speaker 1: that vacuum of like gravitas, you know what I mean, 428 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: Like that vacuum of anything real, like to be really 429 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: dark to me personally, it's like it's like it's taking 430 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: place in a you know, like a strip mall. Yes, literally, 431 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: but Beverly Hills has overtaken that right now. Beverly Hills has. 432 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: For me, it's the sisters elements, Like the three Sisters 433 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 1: were always saying there's like a Checkovian thing happening with 434 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: the three of them. There's something so dark with those sisters. 435 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: And when we go back to the limo ride and 436 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic and we see the whole thing, and 437 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: then we've got Rick is the real entrepreneur with real estate, 438 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: and then Maurizio. It's so much just going on there 439 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: that the family element to me takes us to another 440 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: level of darkness, and Beverly Hills is an incredibly dark place, 441 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: of course. Yeah, I mean from the beginning, what I've 442 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: actually really liked about it was it was about the 443 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: cracks in the China and like when when when they're 444 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: actually got revealed what was under there, It was like 445 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: fascinating because of the depths of how dark it was. 446 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: Like I think probably the darkest thing that's ever happened 447 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: on any house as franchise is Taylor Armstrong and Russell, 448 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like that's because he's dead 449 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: and he was probably going to kill her had he lived. 450 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: That's like the base reality that we're working at. But 451 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: it does feel like and I will say this the 452 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: reason that Bowen and I love Potomac so much, and 453 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: not to say that Bowen and I don't acknowledge that 454 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: Potomac has been dark. It is probably at times at 455 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: one point anyway been the darkest. With some of the parents, 456 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it gets dark, yeah, yes, but it's fun. That's funny, 457 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: and like it feels light Like I love that. Like 458 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: what I'm like kept up about at night is the 459 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 1: fact that Robin cannot put together a family Funday of 460 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: that family Funday. She couldn't even pay for a bounce 461 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: house nothing. Mama couldn't get a spread together like anything 462 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: on a folding table. Let me ask you guys this. 463 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: You know we've we've talked about this at length, but 464 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: I haven't heard your opinions. What do you think about 465 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: Ashley divorcing Michael? Like is this real? Like what's happening? 466 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: I think it's maybe just a whole gambit for Michael 467 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: Darby to be like, I don't want to be on 468 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,640 Speaker 1: camera for the show anymore. Let's do something about that 469 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: and like kind of stage some whole divorce plot. I 470 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know. Um, something about the call of Ashley getting 471 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: the call in the car on the drive home from 472 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: the family Fun Day event seemed a little off. Even 473 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: though that it seemed off, but I was like, oh, 474 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: but I couldn't tell, like the reality was a little 475 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: bit and we didn't know really where we were in 476 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: time and space or something about it. Huh Okay, So 477 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not alone in this. It was weird 478 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,439 Speaker 1: that it ended like that. Yeah, it was like the 479 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: family Fun Day event happened, and then she's in the 480 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: car doing loops and like I just can't turning around 481 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: in a call to Saco and it was so odd. 482 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: It was so weird, and I will so my opinion 483 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: on this is I think it's a real divorce, but 484 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: I think it's not as complicated as they're making it 485 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: out to be. And that's where they're producing it for television, 486 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: which is that it's probably pretty cut and dry. She 487 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: certainly has like the amount of money she's getting worked out, 488 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like they they've known 489 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 1: they were getting divorced for a few years. I'm certain 490 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: of it, and they're probably just making it seem more contentious. 491 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about that because the baby though, the 492 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: new kid. Yeah, but don't you think that Ashley's like, 493 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: you will give me these children? Like I think that 494 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: she has enough agency in that where it's like, even 495 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: if they were to break up, she was like, I'm 496 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: getting my kids out of this because that's ultimately why 497 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: I married you. That's all I'm getting young. Yeah, and 498 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,359 Speaker 1: I don't think that he wants them full time, Like 499 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: I don't think there's an argument with you know, Like, 500 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: I just don't think he's interested. I mean, he's a 501 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred I think of the yet he's the oldest living 502 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: man in Potomac. Have you felt a darker space in 503 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: that apartment on the ground picking up the toys it's 504 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: made of glass? Just something about him with that one beer. 505 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: The two of them love those coronas so much, and 506 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: it is so wild to watch them sit around drink 507 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: corona toys littered on the ground, an unsafe atmosphere for children. 508 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: Glass every mirrored, and glass everywhere you look. I'm so 509 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: upset in that apartment. Although despite all of this, back 510 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 1: to your earlier point, it is the lightest show. When 511 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: Candice breaks the fourth wall immediately and just says fourth well, no, 512 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: I screamed, I stopped the show. I broke in a sweat. 513 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: And then when she just they're so funny when she said, 514 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: not today, Satan, not today, neck, not today, ankles. We 515 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,480 Speaker 1: don't have it. We don't don't have we don't have it, 516 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: We don't have it. Matt and I talked about this 517 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: last couple episodes, But like that moment in the dance 518 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: studio where she just breaks fourth wall and goes, what 519 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: are we doing? Yeah, looks at the camera says what 520 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: are we doing? So impactful, She saw it all I screamed, 521 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: screamed said last week with a certain Housewives memes that 522 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: we love like like like whenever say is like um, 523 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: I like the beat, or like bow and said when 524 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: the Daylight savings DURINGDA what if your son died? And 525 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: another one another one. Someone did a meme of Ariel 526 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: when she gets her voice back. I need Eric? Where 527 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: really good? I need Eric? I said. Whenever I get 528 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: into any argument with anyone, I'm getting up off the 529 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: floor out of my cross legged situation and saying I 530 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: need Eric, and I'm stomping out. I said. We latched 531 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: onto Doug Dog. I do remember when Andy called for Doug. 532 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Because what do you 533 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: want to do here? Doug kyles I. We did this 534 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: Halloween show about ten people dressed up as Doug. They 535 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: all had headsets. I was dying. It was like everybody 536 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: decided to be Andy Judge he did, he did. It 537 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: was just Doug, Doug, have your potatoes, Dug. Someone dressed 538 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: up as a chicken tender that Erica said, Crystal cris 539 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: God our friend Tim Murray, who's been on the podcast, 540 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: he came to a very crowded Halloween party the other 541 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: day as Kathy Hilton's Congo line. He had one person 542 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: in front of him, one person like he made like mannekins, 543 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: and there was one on his front and one on 544 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: his back, and he was like the party was too 545 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: crowded as it was, and he was like trying to 546 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: get through as Kathy Hilton's line. And I really think 547 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: that was Wow, that's great, beautiful. But back to Potomac. 548 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I also love Karen and Giselle's relationship, Like, even though 549 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: it is obviously fraught, there is such humor and love 550 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: there that when they do get together, there's nothing funnier. 551 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: I think someone said to them, hey, stop, like just 552 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: please get together. We need it as an age, just 553 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: have to. And they're like fine, and it's so fun 554 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: and and there are It is all building towards a 555 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: Candice and Ashley sort of team up to Like it 556 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: feels like the old rivalries are breaking down and new 557 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: ones are formed, unexpected ones are forming in their place, 558 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: and they am not seggling right now. It's the Salt Lake, 559 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: but I feel like that's I was just thinking that 560 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: bone yes with Heather and Whitney kind of breaking off 561 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: and Lisa, what do you guys make of Salt Lake. 562 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, it's actually becoming less fun 563 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: for me, just because I always struggle with a cast 564 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: of women that's really small, because especially when the dynamics 565 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: are so firm, like it's like Meredith and Lisa, it's 566 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: just not moving forward, and Heather and Whitney seemed to 567 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 1: not be moving forward. And with Jen it's kind of like, 568 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: I think all the juices sucked out of her scenes 569 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: actually because we know what happens and we know she's lying, 570 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: so she has no credibility, so therefore she's not a 571 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: grounded character in the show. And I don't I certainly 572 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: don't have fun watching her, nor do I enjoy where 573 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna go, Like if it's if we're gonna go there, 574 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: let's get there. That's what I think about Salt Lake 575 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: right now, is it's moving slowly. Although I did enjoy 576 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: the Talent Show at least the beginnings of that. Someone 577 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: Danny Pellegrino and everything kind of described Whitney and Angie Harrington, 578 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: which by the way, that's a haunted situy. There their 579 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: dance toos being from Greg Gardens, and I that absolutely 580 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: it Gardens, but bones not a salt like stam, I 581 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: am right, but you more like the fun Potomac energy. 582 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: The Potomac energy is something that I feel like is 583 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: sorely missing from so many people's lives and my own. 584 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: I just it's the kind of television that's hard to find. 585 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: It's the I don't want that much reality TV. And 586 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that in a snooty way. I'm just 587 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: going like, it's because I feel like it's hard to 588 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: arrive at that. There's there's an alchemy in Potomac that 589 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: is very, very, very very hard to land on. Well. 590 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,120 Speaker 1: To have a person throw a taco party sprinkling writes 591 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: the passage whatever, and then not serve one taco like 592 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: that is you can't get that anywhere, Like, yeah, you 593 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: don't get that every like come on like that and 594 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: even and I feel like I'm so invested in in 595 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: in what's going on in that show, even though it 596 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: is like the lowest Steaks compared to a lot of 597 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: other shows. Like Ashley Darby showed up to an Essental 598 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: after party a month ago and I was just so 599 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: annoyed with her at the time in the show that 600 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm not saying EI to her, like 601 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: like the spills over into my real life where I'm like, 602 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: I'm not and then I'm at at upfront, I've told 603 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: the story I made eye contact with Gazelle Bryant, and 604 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I think she this is me assuming so much and 605 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: thinking so highly of myself. But I'm like, she knows 606 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: I've talked about her publicly. I think they do know. 607 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: But no, I don't know. But but wait, so so 608 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,479 Speaker 1: you ladies like because like the iconic the podcast are 609 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: you and Danny? Like? You guys are the podcasts for 610 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: four Housewives? Do you do you get people reaching out 611 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: ever and like angry at you? You know, I I 612 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: don't say this sounds like I'm being funny, You're trying 613 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: to be rude. I don't think a lot of the 614 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: housewives can get at podcasts. And that's just a I 615 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: don't think they know how. Yeah, because if I like 616 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: post anything, I'll get some d ms, but it's like 617 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: nothing compared to what we've said. Also, remember how none 618 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: of the housewives in Beverly Hills could get through like 619 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,040 Speaker 1: one page of a newspaper article, Like when they're like 620 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: something that they were cared about, you know, something that 621 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: they were like invested, Like I couldn't read Erica's that 622 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: whole article. I couldn't. She was the only one that 623 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: read like any of it. Well, Sutton read it, but 624 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: she took all morning. Yeah, exactly. So I think if 625 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: they feel that way about podcasts, like I can't listen 626 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:41,320 Speaker 1: to all of this, like you know, Lisa, Lisa Wrenna 627 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: has has come after me a bit and she's watching 628 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live and firing off d MS right 629 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: away whatever anyone's saying. She's she's at you. And it 630 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: was scary. I had to take a colon up in 631 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: She's got touch grass. She did. She was like, Danielle, 632 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: can you read this? I was like, I'll get through it, 633 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: like I'll figure it was so scary, honest. But I 634 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: guess we're asking like has it colored your interactions with 635 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: housewives that you've had, Like you know, we try not 636 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: to ever really interview them or fly too close to 637 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: the sun. I don't want to. I I just filmed 638 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: the video with Sonia where I pretended to be her intern. 639 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: But Sonia I put in a class over here. You know, 640 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: she's so fun and sweet, and I would feel the 641 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: same way about her, But I don't really want to 642 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: get to know these gals as much as I love them, sure, 643 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: and I also want to be able to talk about 644 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: them and not feel bad. So they also sort of 645 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: have to remain like characters in this great show that 646 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: I'm watching, as opposed to like real human beings. Then 647 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: like if it's like to me and it's but we 648 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: do love them, it's not like we're coming about this 649 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,880 Speaker 1: from an angle of like, oh, these stupid idiots, Like 650 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: I have real love in my heart for the respect 651 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: human beings that put their lives on you know what 652 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't and I change on them every day, 653 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: one eighty from week to week. So it's best if 654 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: I don't view them up close and personally, yeah, right, 655 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: and what while still remembering that they have to be 656 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: people first and not because I think that was the 657 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 1: thing I didn't watch too much Bravo Con stuff. I 658 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: know you guys said and you didn't send, but Ray 659 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: and Ira reported back to you on Bravo Con and 660 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: it was a great opposite to the field. But I 661 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: feel like the thing my takeaway from Bravo Con was 662 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: like the booing of Rehnna, Like all this other stuff 663 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: like just like the interactive element of that with the 664 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: fans there while certain conflicts were being sort of played 665 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: out on stage, there was something a little there's something 666 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: a little dissonant to me about that. I was like, Oh, 667 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: we're not used to this element in the normal Housewives scheme. Yeah, 668 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: the streams are kind of crossing. There's something happening where 669 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 1: it's like it is getting a bit I like them 670 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: to stay inside in the TV me too, that bad? 671 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: Is that wrong the thing? And watch my stories. I 672 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: want to watch my stories in my program, right, I 673 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,120 Speaker 1: want to watch my stories. It's our soaps. Yeah, And 674 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of now, it's it's 675 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: it's reminded me a lot of like the w WF, 676 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, where it's just like it's 677 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: now become like an interactive element of it. It's like, 678 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: you know, they know to amp up their fans like 679 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: and that to me is like it's drifting away from 680 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 1: like what it is and more like for example, like 681 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: on the Beverly Hills reunion, I think we spent much 682 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: more time on social media things that happened after the 683 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: show than on things that happened on the show, you 684 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't think we even 685 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: discussed big plot points in the season, Like, but we 686 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: spent so much time on these bots. Like you know, 687 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: whose name wasn't even uttered? I knew it. I was Star. 688 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: Thank you his high note? Can he sing now? Can 689 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: Constantine Maroula? Thank you for that? A name we haven't heard. 690 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: Oh he just shot up out of bed. He was 691 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: like speaking of constantly, Marls. That's sort of a look 692 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: back and culture. And so this being your your first 693 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: appearance on the show, what we do is we ask 694 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: every single guest that rolls through, what was the culture 695 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: that made you say culture is for me? This is 696 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: the touchstone of Quickly Came Podcast last culture Ristas Danielle, 697 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: we will ask you first, what was the culture that 698 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: made you say culture was for you? For me growing 699 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 1: up in the eighties and nineties, I'm going to say, 700 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 1: like the original soap operas, you know what I mean? 701 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: I think what connects you to oh for sure, because 702 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 1: it's women living out loud, you know what I mean? 703 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: It was for me definitely, like the Susan Lucci and 704 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 1: the Dallas and the Dynasty and the like, just like 705 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: my favorite characters not being in an anyway likable or 706 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,360 Speaker 1: anyway anything I could relate to, just these like wild 707 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: storylines and people screaming. Like I was six years old 708 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: watching General Hospital, Like my mom would just sit me 709 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: in front of it and be like have that. She 710 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: was like Luke and Laura are getting married. Watching my 711 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: mother was a massive all my children General Hospital exactly. 712 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: So it was just like that was in front of 713 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: me and I my girlfriend was watching like Smurfs and 714 00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 1: Sesame Street, and I was like, fuck that ship. It's 715 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: like get me young and the restless, you know. And 716 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: sometimes what's great about living in the Valley, which I 717 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: now live in Glendale, but I used to live in 718 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 1: the Valley, and what was great about it is I 719 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: would see these soap opera stars that I used to 720 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: grow up with, like loving aged and pulled. But it's 721 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: gorgeous to see like the men and women. Like I said, 722 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: I saw Jack Wagner in a hot yoga class and 723 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: I almost ship, my this is life's old, Like not old, 724 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: I just mean like like time bound, whether I'm weathered 725 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,359 Speaker 1: emotional relationships, paras, social or whatever with these people. Yes, 726 00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,280 Speaker 1: I think that to me at a very young age 727 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: was where I came up with the culture for me, 728 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: because they were in homes every single day, you know 729 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 1: what I mean. Like that was it's one thing to 730 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: be a TV star, and like I think that you know, people, 731 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: maybe obviously it's all blended now because what is anything? 732 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: What is a movie? What is a TV show? But 733 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 1: like people always said, like when you were a TV 734 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: star at a certain point, like people, you would be 735 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,440 Speaker 1: approached differently, whereas like people are very afraid to approach 736 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: like a proper movie star, whereas a TV starts like, 737 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, so these soap opera people, they must 738 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: get the and and the fandom obviously is was intense 739 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 1: with them when they were huge, but maybe that energy 740 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 1: has transferred over to the house fandom because that's what 741 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: that's where people think. It's such a perfect line. Yeah, 742 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: and Andy says that a lot. He talks about how 743 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: like the reason he even was interested in doing this 744 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: and like creating this, and obviously he wasn't like the 745 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: creator of it, but he has steered it in such 746 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,919 Speaker 1: a way was because he loved soaps and missed them 747 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 1: because they don't occupy the same cultural space anymore. My 748 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 1: sister still watches soaps just like shocks me, like she's 749 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 1: still like keeping her Santa Barbara every day, you know 750 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,919 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I don't even have to rest 751 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: real television. I wouldn't even know where to begin and 752 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: where to get a soap opera like that, but like 753 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: some people still are asked. You'll see like the soap 754 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: opera Digest, which if I would beg my parents are 755 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: in the grocery store, I'd be like, can I please 756 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: get that? They'd be like, no, you can get Premiere 757 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: and I'd be like, fine, oh I was not Tiger, 758 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: and I was like, Premiere magazine, You've always been this person? 759 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: Then yeah, complete, that's beautiful. I think, thank you. Just 760 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: to have like your your like cultural focal like exactly 761 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: set for like at a very young age, perfect, that's 762 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: that's the dream. And so then to like create something 763 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: like Hot Wives must have been like a perfect like 764 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,839 Speaker 1: meeting of those worlds too. Yes it was it still is, 765 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,520 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I love to watch people 766 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: that aren't perfect, living loudly and rashly, and so to 767 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,760 Speaker 1: just get anything we did on Housewives, nothing is bigger 768 00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: than the actual Housewives, you know what I mean, Like 769 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: anytime we we we did like a Casey's character through 770 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: like a party to like raise money for high heels 771 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: for dogs, and so it was one of those things 772 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: where it was like, then they're all throwing these like, 773 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, Homeless not Toothless parties, like they all kind 774 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: of feel in this city like we're never we were 775 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: never bigger than the show itself. It's just you could 776 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: have been so respectful as as an homage Homeless not 777 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: Toothless could have happened on your show and everyone would 778 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 1: have been like, this is the funniest joke of the year, 779 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: and then it actually happened in real life and everyone 780 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, wow, this is And I do think 781 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: that's why you still need to read. I'm sorry, like 782 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: I will sort of die of to read Stan unfortunately. 783 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 1: Like she does make me laugh the most, like the 784 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: way that she acts, the things that she says, like 785 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,600 Speaker 1: the way that she wears her clothes even when it's 786 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: dark with her, like it's it's entertaining to me. And 787 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: I think if she weren't there, I would I would 788 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: be upset. She's giving us a lot of flavor and color. 789 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,960 Speaker 1: Although maybe that's what a friend of is sometimes ultimately, 790 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: but I I love her too. Yeah, I love well. 791 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,239 Speaker 1: What a gorgeous answer to the question that was that 792 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: was that was a good one and the connecting one 793 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: as well. Thank you, Thank you, Casey. What about you? 794 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: What's the culture that made you stay? Culture is for 795 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,759 Speaker 1: you? You You know? I know this movie is kind of 796 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: cheesy and some people really don't love it, but I 797 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: I am obsessed and still am with the women of 798 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:52,839 Speaker 1: the movie Clue oh good one. It touched me in 799 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 1: a way that I can't even express, Like seeing these 800 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,320 Speaker 1: there was four comedians in it. I mean, obviously Madeline 801 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:05,760 Speaker 1: con Leslie and Lauren it was like sexy and funny, 802 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: and then even Colleen camp who played the maid was hilarious. 803 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,200 Speaker 1: Um and II Lean Brennan as Mrs Peacock. And for 804 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: some reason, that movie it lodged itself in my brain, 805 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,399 Speaker 1: and I'm obsessed with all those women, and then kind 806 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: of became just obsessed with female performers. I also, I mean, 807 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: I guess this movie isn't quite what we're talking about 808 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: with like pop culture, but I got very into like 809 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,400 Speaker 1: terms of endearment, like Shirley mcleane, like and then and 810 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: the death comes to realm. Like, I'm just into that 811 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: whole wheel of kind of female character actresses. I would say, yes, no, 812 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 1: that is formative. It was quite formative. I mean, is 813 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 1: there ever any casting that's ever been better than Leslie 814 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 1: and Lauren coming into play Terry Hatter's Mother and Desperate Housewives? 815 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was perfect. It was perfect. But these 816 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: women are like that. That's who I feel like I 817 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: am watching on Housewives truly, are all these kind of 818 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: larger than life women who are funny and well they're 819 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,359 Speaker 1: not allowed to be it anymore. I feel like they're 820 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, we just don't get they're sort of 821 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: relegated to these like smaller movies, you know that like 822 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,399 Speaker 1: August oh Sage County or you know what I mean, 823 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 1: Like not every like will watch the people in the 824 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: culture will watch, but I will watch, you know, I'll 825 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 1: be like in the lining up day one for August 826 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: Osage County, you know, but like, you're not getting those 827 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: characters because and even I as a writer, like I 828 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: just get such pressure to write like likable, likable, likable, likable, 829 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: and it's like, but I like people that aren't likable. 830 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: I like people that aren't you know, that I like 831 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: watching these women fight. I it is the most soothing 832 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 1: sounds to me. I can fall asleep to them just screaming. 833 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: It's like waves upon the shore. But I love it 834 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 1: so much. Was like, how are you listening to that? 835 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: I'm like, I couldn't want to listen to anything more. 836 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 1: That's a beautiful sooth. I mean, I guess for some 837 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: reason she's coming to mind. I mean, not for some reason. 838 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,799 Speaker 1: It makes sense. I think the only person who's like 839 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: being allowed to play that kind of person now is 840 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: like a Jennifer Coolidge, which amazing, we love no one 841 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 1: is complaining, but like, I wonder how she feels that 842 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: she just took like a rolling Stone interview that I'm 843 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: still reading and like it's really interesting, really fasting. But 844 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: she's but then you remember, oh right, she's also this 845 00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 1: incredible comedic performer who is like was for a while 846 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 1: relegated to like Stiffler's mom or whatever and that, yeah, 847 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 1: and then now she's doing a great job of trying 848 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,560 Speaker 1: to like recalibrate and balance those two things. But like, 849 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: you go back and watch her invest in show, and 850 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: her and Jane Lynch scenes are like incredible, and like 851 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 1: who could have done that. But yes, she's a terrific actress. 852 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: You're absolutely right, that kind of woman like Jennifer Coolidge 853 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: is who I feel like we got to grow up 854 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: watching like a lot more of that version, and now 855 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,759 Speaker 1: there's only so many actresses who get to and they're 856 00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: so relegated to like side characters the realtor, you know, 857 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 1: and not that I don't want to see the realtor, 858 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 1: but I but I do you think Mike White is 859 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: like he is all about kind of centering them in 860 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,479 Speaker 1: a in an amazing way. But I wish yeah, because 861 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,759 Speaker 1: the realtor, like what else did you know? Oh? Like 862 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: they're always like what are they? These characters are always 863 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:21,360 Speaker 1: like the real right, I love I love a lawyer. 864 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: I love a county lawyer. Yeah, Like in Search Party, 865 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: that woman that was Oh my god, that woman was 866 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: incredible And I'm missing the greatest performance show on that character. Though. 867 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,720 Speaker 1: Why can I not get an entire show on that character? 868 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: I want her. I don't feel like we need to 869 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: relegate her to just this county lawyer. I want to 870 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: see County lawyer goes home. Yes, it goes home, and 871 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,839 Speaker 1: at a home, it doesn't count. Factor get increased or 872 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: do we see a break a different side of her 873 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: construction of the County Lawyer. That's the way we need 874 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,080 Speaker 1: Laura dern at home and story. Yes, but this is 875 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: another reason why I loved Big Little Eyes and why 876 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: every time they're like, oh, we don't need another season, 877 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,279 Speaker 1: I'm like, who's who are you speaking for? Don't not me? 878 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: Not me, Because even if it's not as quote unquote good, 879 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, if it's not the masterpiece 880 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: that was the first season that was like an actual 881 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: assessment of something in the culture that needed like a 882 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: general like a real dramatic breakdown, which is like it 883 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 1: ended up being this like incredible piece on domestic violence 884 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,120 Speaker 1: that I think no one thought it was going to 885 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: be at the beginning. And then the second season was 886 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,439 Speaker 1: kind of more just like, Okay, it's pulp, it's Meryl 887 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: Streep screaming for no reason, you know whatever, It's still 888 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,399 Speaker 1: Meryl strip screaming. And I'm fine with that. Yes, me too, 889 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,440 Speaker 1: And it's like I don't need the mystery I think 890 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: people think we need. What is the mystery of the end. 891 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,920 Speaker 1: If you give me some great fucking characters, I'll watch 892 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: them eat a eat a piece of you know meat. 893 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: I don't have a big I know, eat a eat 894 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 1: a baked potato with goddamn cavyahn't care exactly to speak 895 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,960 Speaker 1: on white lotus for a second. Have you all watched 896 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 1: the first the first episode? Yes, every frame, I'm not 897 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm not cut up, and please talk about it. But 898 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,479 Speaker 1: there's there's only been the one. So there's been one. Okay, 899 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to say something. Maybe it's a little bit unpopular, 900 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,840 Speaker 1: but I feel like Jennifer Coolidge thinks we expect something 901 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:21,920 Speaker 1: of her now and she's giving it's she's laying it 902 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 1: on a little thick. I think it's it's it's coming 903 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,240 Speaker 1: across a little performed. It's almost coming off like Tanya 904 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: mcquad two point oh and the way where I'm like 905 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: to take a breath, I agree, but I think we 906 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:34,759 Speaker 1: sort of set her up for that. I don't know 907 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,240 Speaker 1: that she could totally win in that space as well. 908 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,920 Speaker 1: Let's see, let's give it a b let's us also 909 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: take a breath and let you know, taking a breath. Okay, 910 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: we're all taking a breath because I hear you. And 911 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: yet you know, she gave us so much overseason, like 912 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, the first episode, we didn't know what we 913 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: were for Coolidge. She could have just but then we 914 00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,040 Speaker 1: saw her in that scene where she's just like Mommy, 915 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm mean, we got so many levels in that show 916 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: that like we don't know, we don't know that show 917 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: a levels machine. And I also love I think that 918 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 1: so basically Bowen and like the very first team you 919 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: find out that it's not just one guest that's that, 920 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,440 Speaker 1: it's several guests that are which I feel like it's 921 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: Mike White being like as commenting on the thing of 922 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: like it's the second season, you want more, Okay, we'll 923 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,040 Speaker 1: kill a couple more people. It won't be about that 924 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 1: at all, which is another thing I like about White Lettles. 925 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: It's like sort of masquerades as like this like murder mystery, 926 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: and then there's no element of this in terms of structure, 927 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,439 Speaker 1: in terms of how you write a murder mystery. That's 928 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 1: not here. It's just the story of this and this 929 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: obviously the second no one's thinking about it at all 930 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,759 Speaker 1: as you're watching it, Like, I don't need to that. 931 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: I would rather know what the thread count on the 932 00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:50,920 Speaker 1: towel is at this gorgeous I'm very interested in that 933 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: there was the first scene where Megan Fahey, who's by 934 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: the way, so I think she's becoming movie star moment, 935 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: Like yeah, probably after this, but she swims out into 936 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: the ocean bowing and like literally bumps up against a carcass. 937 00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: Carcasses out on the ocean, carcass out there's this moment 938 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,240 Speaker 1: of her like like what the fund is that? Because 939 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 1: she can feel this body and she looks and you 940 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,799 Speaker 1: see the body float by, and her acting in it 941 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:24,760 Speaker 1: is so good because you're just like it's like shock, disgusted, fear, panic, 942 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,800 Speaker 1: and then like she's like physically flinging herself out of 943 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: the water trying to swim away. It's just like and 944 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:31,759 Speaker 1: then it's like white lotus, you know what I mean. 945 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 1: Like immediately the next scene is the hotel manager being like, well, 946 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we're liable because it happened in the water. 947 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: It's really really, it's really good. I mean, I think 948 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,800 Speaker 1: that show is a home run. Are you guys watching 949 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 1: the Vow season two? No, but I hear it's worth 950 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: the watch because miss Thing is in it is because 951 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that the first part ended in a in 952 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 1: like a sort of a loose messy way I think. 953 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,320 Speaker 1: But what do you guys thought? Just see Nancy Salzman, 954 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: the woman that was his kind of counterpart. It's all 955 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 1: about Nancy, and it is just wild seeing her with 956 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: her ankle bracelet like Sete here with her hairless cat, 957 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: just puttering around like upstick. What you're hearing sounds bad, 958 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: but you're wanting to see it. You need it, you 959 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 1: need it. Have you guys been watching The Moll I 960 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: finished it. I finished it in like three days. It's 961 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 1: iconic TV. And Joy there's a character Joy who you 962 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: guys will love because she is Someone explained this to 963 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,800 Speaker 1: me perfectly. She is a two thousand three era reality 964 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 1: villain plopped into phenomenal. She's confusing, she's confounding, she's a 965 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 1: little bit stupid, a little bit of a genius. All 966 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 1: it's all happening. It's like someone from like Early Survivor 967 00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: or someone from um Early I don't know, like The Mole, 968 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: Like it's it's the show that was I remember the 969 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,719 Speaker 1: mall being around circle like like when Survivor came out 970 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,200 Speaker 1: was like another answer to Surer. I'm gonna say like 971 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: two thousand three, two thousand four, y and it's back 972 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: or has it always been going. It's been back. They 973 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 1: only did like four or five seasons of it back 974 00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,680 Speaker 1: in the day, and then it took a long break 975 00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 1: and they tried to bring it back in like the 976 00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: early didn't really work, didn't take off. I think it's 977 00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: been a hit, and I think the whole it's a 978 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: it's a great watch the whole week through. You guys 979 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: love it. Where where am I finding it? Netflix stopped 980 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: their back? Netflix is back with them all? Can I 981 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,879 Speaker 1: throw one more show into the mixing? It's so good. 982 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: I I feel I'm telling people, just person by person, 983 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,759 Speaker 1: which is my kids a fucking star. I'm writing this 984 00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 1: down on the greatest show of all time. They following 985 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: four children in their stage parents, each child more untalented 986 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,560 Speaker 1: than the one before, with the exception of Shata, and 987 00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 1: the parents are so wild, but you're also feeling with 988 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: the parents. You're crying, you're laughing. It is so sort 989 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: of father is throwing his daughter, his talentless daughter, a 990 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 1: gala to show her as a triple threat. She's ten. 991 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 1: He's working her out on a pool float so that 992 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:18,719 Speaker 1: she could really get her card. You up to hit 993 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: the high note. It's what we want where am I 994 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: finding this? God? Where did I even? Not Discovery Plus? 995 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: To me, it's giving the TV guide channel where they 996 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: did show the show like up in the little like corner, 997 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: But you're mostly scrolling through what's on TV raising a star. 998 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, raising a fucking star on Star. I 999 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,400 Speaker 1: think you should. You should get it. You should go 1000 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: and be a producer on that shows and where e 1001 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: never forget it's actually real culture number four eight. Never 1002 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 1: don't count e out because because if you ever want 1003 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: to just sit your ask down and be entertained for 1004 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: hours on end, it's the new top model. I'm sorry, 1005 00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:18,960 Speaker 1: but Tyler Henry Hollywood medium Tyler to you from zero 1006 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,680 Speaker 1: to a hundred, like checking every box, twig psychic, as 1007 00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,160 Speaker 1: I call him lovingly. Do you believe him? Do you 1008 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: believe him that? I believe him? Um? I believe that he. 1009 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: I believe that he is good at intuiting, and I 1010 00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,520 Speaker 1: think that there's something to that. Do I think ghosts 1011 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:42,919 Speaker 1: are coming to chat with him? For tea? I think 1012 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,399 Speaker 1: it's a great touch that he doodles while the while 1013 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: the ghost is in the room. I think, actually that's 1014 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: that's actually a perfect thin layer of theater where it's 1015 00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 1: like eyes of viewer. I'm like, oh, then that that 1016 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: must be that's so random, that must be important. Yes, 1017 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 1: any type of crop crop. I'm like, oh, I believe 1018 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: that's an excercent. Do you have anything that belonged to 1019 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,399 Speaker 1: the person? And then the woman's like yes, and they 1020 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,239 Speaker 1: give like an old knitted scarf. It's like, oh, I 1021 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 1: wonder if this is a grandparent. And he's just he's 1022 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: just in his like in his mind. You can't hear it, 1023 00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,120 Speaker 1: but he's saying himself and I got these motherfucker's Yeah, 1024 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 1: do you think That's what I was gonna ask you? 1025 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: Do you believe he believes? That's hard, that's interesting, that's 1026 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: really fun. That's a really fun thing to think about. 1027 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: I think he I think he believes, but I think 1028 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe him when he says, I don't do 1029 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 1: any research on the person. That's my question. So it's 1030 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,920 Speaker 1: so random when he does know who the person is, 1031 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 1: Like he came in and it was like literally like 1032 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashians like, Hi, it's nice to meet you. I 1033 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: had never heard of this person. And then he met 1034 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,000 Speaker 1: little Kim and he was like, oh my god, little Kim. 1035 00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like Mama, which Kim is famous because that doesn't 1036 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: even look like little Kim anymore. You didn't know that 1037 00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: was look him. No woman had a full head trance clam. 1038 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,880 Speaker 1: She is on the call sheet, though, I wonder if 1039 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 1: he sees his call sheets? Are the ghost number one 1040 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: on the call sheet right through six? Number one is 1041 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:20,640 Speaker 1: scarf Number two is ghosts number one? What I You 1042 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,919 Speaker 1: know what though? I did when he first came out, 1043 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 1: like and it was like a thing that I think 1044 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 1: I said to Bow and I was like, we should 1045 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 1: get him what is when we're recording in person a lot. 1046 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 1: I was like, if we're ever in the same city 1047 00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 1: as him, get him on the pod. We should do 1048 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: a podcast like an episode of Last Coach, which is 1049 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: him reading us, and then we'd see if we became 1050 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: believers because they can't edit it. You know what I mean? 1051 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,040 Speaker 1: This is I'll tell you what I do. You wouldn't 1052 00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: agree to do it anyway, but yeah, he probably wouldn't know. 1053 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,200 Speaker 1: He wouldn't. But you know some people like when they 1054 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 1: like when Long Island Medium goes to like, oh she's 1055 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,959 Speaker 1: very she's real. Yeah, when she goes to like Kelly 1056 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: Show and She's like, now, who has a son who 1057 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,040 Speaker 1: passed from the chest, who passed from the chest, And 1058 00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: like if a woman like devastating already ways in her hand, 1059 00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,960 Speaker 1: my daughter passed in the chest. Yeah, and she's connected 1060 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: with you. She wants to know. She forgives you, and 1061 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: I need you to be the Long Island meeting from 1062 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 1: bas from the chests. Okay, but can I say one 1063 00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 1: thing about Tyler, just one quick anecdote, which is that 1064 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,440 Speaker 1: So Alicia Cuthbert went and did the show and we 1065 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: have the same makeup artist and she went with her 1066 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: and they get there and she's touching her up and 1067 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: then they said to our makeup wartists, Kathleen, you need 1068 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 1: to step in the other room. And she's like, well, 1069 00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 1: can I just stay here and watch the monitor because 1070 00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:39,440 Speaker 1: look we're reading, but the touch ups and she said no, no, 1071 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:43,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes Tyler gets pulled. Someone else's energy will pull and 1072 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,320 Speaker 1: he won't be able to read the person. So Kathy goes, Okay, 1073 00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560 Speaker 1: I'll leave. So she leaves. She comes back and they 1074 00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 1: don't see her. Now she's by the monitor and Tyler says, Julicia, 1075 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a sister who's passed from Bavarian cancer, and 1076 00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:02,320 Speaker 1: Alicia's like no, and my makeup artist, Kathleen tears and 1077 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,600 Speaker 1: apparently he was talking about Kathleen's sister and that, and 1078 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 1: he pulled and he goes he was so confused that 1079 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't Alicia, and then Kathleen said she had to 1080 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: raise her hand, and then he spoke to her for 1081 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: a while. So I don't know. I'm just throwing that 1082 00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 1: out there because I always found that something right. I 1083 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:25,120 Speaker 1: definitely want to believe it. I'm so me too. I 1084 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: want to believe these things. I want to believe. I'm 1085 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 1: Mulder and Scully, but I think Bowen is more Scully. 1086 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm a little Scully. I do think there's a Jillian Anderson. 1087 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: I think it's jilliant. Yeah. I think that because Bone 1088 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: was the astrology skeptic too, and I came in being 1089 00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: like I'm open to the tides. Now I'm like into it. 1090 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: You are, Bowen. We have an amazing astrologist that really 1091 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,440 Speaker 1: opened my eyes to everything. I think, really opened my ass. 1092 00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: We have thought, every every every whole pried open through 1093 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,280 Speaker 1: the stars and to the stars. Who was astrologist? Can 1094 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:12,640 Speaker 1: you name them? Heidi Rose Robbins. First of all, that stomach. 1095 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: Can follow her on Instagram telling you Rose Robbins, She's 1096 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,280 Speaker 1: the most normal, lovely, gorgeous woman we've been I've been 1097 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 1: seen her for seventeen years. Yes, and she has predicted 1098 01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:27,040 Speaker 1: things all manner of things, things that are dangerous to predict. 1099 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: I things that you're like, don't say that to them. 1100 01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: I was having trouble conceiving a child and you know, 1101 01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: doing things no. And she she looked me dead in 1102 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: the eyes and said, you're going to be pregnant this year. 1103 01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:44,640 Speaker 1: Wait and then and then I was, oh my god, 1104 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: it had been many years struggle things where it's like, 1105 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 1: but she's so talented, and I again, I'm I'm a 1106 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,960 Speaker 1: bit of a scully. And she turned my world around 1107 01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,680 Speaker 1: and hence like this is literally like right by the 1108 01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:00,720 Speaker 1: first thing I do in the more and then all 1109 01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,640 Speaker 1: of a sudden, here we are at the podcast recording 1110 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,720 Speaker 1: and the tarot cards were I am Danielle, but when 1111 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: you were like, I pulled the crazy card and it 1112 01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:15,320 Speaker 1: was hope are more like nuanced? That is a crazy 1113 01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: card these days. Hopefully I know this is coming out 1114 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,760 Speaker 1: a day after the damn mid terms. Let's hope audacity 1115 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: of the audacity truly. We loo a second ago about 1116 01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,080 Speaker 1: opening our ass. Today we're going to open our amouths 1117 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: to do what us BEAUTI and Icono gorgeous. Yeah, we've 1118 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,439 Speaker 1: been doing this for seven years, so we're gonna open 1119 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,720 Speaker 1: our mouths and flap our gums. In a segment we 1120 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: call I don't think so honey, which is a sixty 1121 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: second segment on our podcast that we use to employ. 1122 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,400 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's money, which is a dragging 1123 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,960 Speaker 1: of something in culture. I do have something. It's a 1124 01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: harkening back to earlier in the episodes, but I don't 1125 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,840 Speaker 1: think I can let this human being go any further 1126 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 1: without being dragged publicly on this podcast. We've alluded to 1127 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 1: not liking her that much before, but she needs to 1128 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: be I don't think so honeyed. Oh my god, that's incredible. 1129 01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,400 Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so honey. 1130 01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:21,440 Speaker 1: And as time starts new, I don't think so honey, 1131 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,160 Speaker 1: Robin Dixon, Dixon, it has to stop because, oh my god, 1132 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,080 Speaker 1: I can tell that this is yours too. I don't 1133 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,880 Speaker 1: think money, Robin Dixon. How come there couldn't be a 1134 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: family funded You couldn't. You couldn't again a tray of chicken. 1135 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 1: What was happening? You couldn't get a kickball, We couldn't 1136 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: hire a ref w Dixon. I was so a piss 1137 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,920 Speaker 1: that Wan Dixon was not now because he could have 1138 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: been the referee. He could have done something. Because God 1139 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,120 Speaker 1: goes like what now, You're just you're gonna put Giselle 1140 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: in charge anytime? Just a charge's gonna run into chaos 1141 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: and hell a bounty house. I actually looked it up. 1142 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: It's three dollars for the day. Robin. I know money 1143 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: is tight every now and then, but and I don't 1144 01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 1: know what the current financial he is, but you need 1145 01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: to roll your ass out of bed. First of all, 1146 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: we had rout of bed from last season to what 1147 01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: like like like get too potato sacks. I'm sorry, but 1148 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: it is not enough. We need to get you a 1149 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,840 Speaker 1: red bull. We need to get Robin Dixon a cold brew. 1150 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: We need to wake her up. We need to splash 1151 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 1: some water on her face and get her off to 1152 01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: the racist. Thank god you stuck up for Cantis. Is 1153 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,400 Speaker 1: the only useful thing you've done in seasons. I don't 1154 01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:28,720 Speaker 1: think so, honey. The way you both jumped back in 1155 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:32,320 Speaker 1: your chair, you both threw yourselves across roofs. It was 1156 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: shocking because Robin herself has no energy, so to see 1157 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:40,360 Speaker 1: energy put toward and at Robin was just so. I 1158 01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 1: didn't know where to go, and you went back. I 1159 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 1: went back. I loved it. I don't necessarily agree, but 1160 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: that's day. That's for another day. I will say I agree. 1161 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: My only note for Potomac overall is that taglines are 1162 01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 1: are garbage this year. They're so bad. They got one 1163 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:04,480 Speaker 1: totally wrong, and I think it's actually better. What was 1164 01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,400 Speaker 1: it I got Wendy's wrong. I know she's a friend 1165 01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: of the pod, but I thought she said, you know 1166 01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 1: what I think she said. I don't have it written 1167 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 1: down anymore, but it was like, I'm like, I've got 1168 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,400 Speaker 1: a lot of power, but I've got no time. And 1169 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:20,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was I've got no time for me. 1170 01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:29,400 Speaker 1: It's like, so I've got a lot of I believe 1171 01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 1: that because I was like, well, she really doesn't have 1172 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 1: a lot of time for herself, but it was no 1173 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,160 Speaker 1: time for me. But I thought it was no time 1174 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: for me. Listen back to it. But whenever the front 1175 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: front of it rhymes with me, I'm a Nigerian queen 1176 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,960 Speaker 1: it was queen. It was like, but I thought it 1177 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 1: was I'm a Nigerian queen with no time for me. Yeah, 1178 01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 1: the headlines really are rough. I think Canvas is as good, 1179 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 1: but I also can't remember it. I think I wrote 1180 01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,360 Speaker 1: it down but in my notes from last week's episode. 1181 01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,720 Speaker 1: But well, I don't know what it is either. But 1182 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 1: the structure for the last three seasons I think has 1183 01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,600 Speaker 1: been My now may be adjective, but my now is adjective. 1184 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: That's that's what it's been. Or Live. I love it 1185 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,480 Speaker 1: a mad live. Can you see them all with the 1186 01:05:22,520 --> 01:05:27,960 Speaker 1: whiteboard out just coming up? I mean, my favorite thing 1187 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 1: is to imagine there are comedy rooms that they put 1188 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,840 Speaker 1: together just to get pitched them all day. Like you 1189 01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: ever bites Dr Tiffany Moon's candles. My bit was that 1190 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: she put a comedy room together to put the packaging 1191 01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,600 Speaker 1: together because there's a little jokes on them. There's so 1192 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: many little jokes on them. They're all named after like 1193 01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:47,640 Speaker 1: different drugs. Have you guys bought yourself any fresh Wolf? No, 1194 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I'm not about fresh Wolf. I'm not interested in the kids. Okay, 1195 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,520 Speaker 1: you're not interest in Budge College. Fudge College is amazing. 1196 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:59,240 Speaker 1: Fudge College is iconic. Salt Like I will say, I 1197 01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: can't just correct the record. I do love Salt Lake, 1198 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,160 Speaker 1: and I'm loving Lisa Barlow even more than I ever have. 1199 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: She realized because Matt told me, and I think you're 1200 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,720 Speaker 1: totally right. She does not She she's driving the story 1201 01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:15,040 Speaker 1: forward without looking like she's producing, Like you know, Jen, 1202 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,640 Speaker 1: Heather and Meredith, I'll say, like they do a little 1203 01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,880 Speaker 1: too much meddling where it's like a little too like 1204 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:29,640 Speaker 1: puppet Stringy Whitney. Whitney's hoeing journey, her helling journey. My 1205 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:35,520 Speaker 1: phones were hurt, especially during my howing journey. Helen joy 1206 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,160 Speaker 1: is that you talk. What is that? I don't know 1207 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:43,720 Speaker 1: if it's botox or oh my god, botox or utah 1208 01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,720 Speaker 1: box a utah another table for you guys. That's really 1209 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:54,080 Speaker 1: good to You had to name a lot of hot wives, yea, honestly, 1210 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,440 Speaker 1: but okay, so but you guys are your pro Robin. 1211 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:01,680 Speaker 1: I love her because again, and I wouldn't think someone's 1212 01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: so sleepy I could get behind. Usually I like a 1213 01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:10,320 Speaker 1: more energetic wife. But they're but there's something about it. 1214 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, it's like Steven Right as a comedian, 1215 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. They're giving a very old reference, 1216 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,760 Speaker 1: just a different way. Yeah. Yeah, she's a different kind 1217 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,640 Speaker 1: of housewife. One that's barely I know. But that's a 1218 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: new flavor. We haven't seen that sleepy flavor before. I'm 1219 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: into it. We ordered her hats and we did you 1220 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:36,560 Speaker 1: ever get them? I finally did, But when I tell 1221 01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: you emails upon emails about we're going to think about 1222 01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,600 Speaker 1: getting them to you, it was so many updates and 1223 01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:46,600 Speaker 1: so many emails. It's just sent from her, like not 1224 01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: even like a male chimp account, like just like like 1225 01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:54,000 Speaker 1: Robin Dixon like and she was just like, guys, I 1226 01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 1: know I'm disappointing you, and I'm sorry. And then she 1227 01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: was like, if you really need them, you can email me. Yeah, 1228 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,919 Speaker 1: as opposed to them, we really need anything, just send 1229 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:08,000 Speaker 1: my money on I really need if you really need them. 1230 01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,400 Speaker 1: She wasn't because it was the holiday season. She was like, 1231 01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:13,000 Speaker 1: if you really because everyone bought them for like gifts 1232 01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: last year for holidays, and she was like, if you 1233 01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:18,920 Speaker 1: really need to buy Christmas, like, I can do my best. 1234 01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: I mean. One of my favorite things Bone said on 1235 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,120 Speaker 1: the pod was Robin is two hundred thousand dollars in debt. 1236 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 1: She can hat in a box. She can't, she can't, 1237 01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:33,200 Speaker 1: she can't listen. Are we all doing Housewives? I don't 1238 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 1: think so, honey, because I will gladly I mine was 1239 01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,479 Speaker 1: the Housewives. I don't think so honey. But Danielle, we're 1240 01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 1: going to go together. We do have. It's a former 1241 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,200 Speaker 1: housewife though. Oh you're gonna go together. I love it, 1242 01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: really cool. I really like that. Okay, that's never never done. 1243 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 1: But first, yeah, you got it. Okay, this is Boone 1244 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: Yang's I don't think so, honey. His time on his 1245 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:59,559 Speaker 1: birthday starts now. I don't think so honey. Trips to 1246 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,200 Speaker 1: Arizona or to Zion. I think you are going too 1247 01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,599 Speaker 1: much to this part of the country that I don't. 1248 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 1: I don't think people really need to see you anymore. 1249 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160 Speaker 1: I think we understand what goes on there, and I'm 1250 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:12,720 Speaker 1: not I'm not saying this in like a fly over 1251 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,120 Speaker 1: state away as someone who grew up in Colorado. I 1252 01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: just mean that, like the pandemic is sort of like 1253 01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:23,639 Speaker 1: allowing travel to happen again to far flung places. We're 1254 01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 1: done with American designations. I don't think we need to 1255 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:28,599 Speaker 1: say I think I think we've also just like run 1256 01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:33,599 Speaker 1: the tank on those places across shows, across franchises. Let's 1257 01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: go back to UM, I'll say, at Turks and Caicos, 1258 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,800 Speaker 1: not to you know, overlap there, but like, you know, 1259 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,880 Speaker 1: let's let's leave the country. Let's get these women their passports, 1260 01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, renewed UM just so that they can for 1261 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,560 Speaker 1: the betterment of their own lives. I feel I'm a 1262 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,599 Speaker 1: little bit bored of the mainland destinations. Go to Hawaiian 1263 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to Alaska at least if you're not going 1264 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: to leave the US. That's what I have to say. 1265 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:57,719 Speaker 1: And that's why a minute, I think that I completely 1266 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,120 Speaker 1: agree with you. Like even even the Real Housewives New 1267 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 1: Jersey Nashville trip that was fun, but like it's so American, 1268 01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like, let's go places we know. We can 1269 01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 1: book Thailand, like we can do other things. Jen show 1270 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,479 Speaker 1: cannot leave the country as a convicted felon. But then 1271 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,720 Speaker 1: Jen stays home Hawaii. You're right, and Jen stays home. Yes, 1272 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 1: but I think why they could go to Alaska, we 1273 01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: could go to New York City, would even be something, 1274 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: give us something. These airbnbs they're all blending together with 1275 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,760 Speaker 1: the grill in the tope, grugs. I can't. I'm like, 1276 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, or Mexico City. Have they have any of 1277 01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:35,760 Speaker 1: the women done? Mexico City? You know when we were 1278 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: there for New Year's I think we even said out loud, 1279 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,479 Speaker 1: this would be a good housewife's trip. Absolutely can't go, 1280 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: she cannot. I'm not saying result. I'm saying for like 1281 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,680 Speaker 1: a lot of this. And I know, I know we're 1282 01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,360 Speaker 1: coming out of pandemic stuff, but I feel like we 1283 01:10:49,439 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: got to mix it up again. I don't want to 1284 01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:54,680 Speaker 1: see an airbnb, not again. I can't that culture to me. 1285 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all set. I'd like to see a hotel. 1286 01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: I also think I'm wrapped. I'm a wrap on skiing. 1287 01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to see skiing anymore. Like I feel 1288 01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: like I see skiing on Beverly Hills on Salt like 1289 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: they're these women are always skiing and I'm like, I 1290 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 1: understand this is a thing that turns them on, but 1291 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: no more skiing for me. I'd like to see them 1292 01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,240 Speaker 1: at the beach. I'm a wrap on them all pedaling 1293 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:22,439 Speaker 1: a bike together and yeah, a drink bike. I'm dead 1294 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: and I'm done. Done. They were trying so hard to like. 1295 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: The Salt Lake City girls were quote unquote having so 1296 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:33,040 Speaker 1: much fun. I'm like, y'all, don't y'all are gassing. Meredith 1297 01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Mars is not throwing whipping alcohol in someone's face. It 1298 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 1: was so painful. No, no, she is not. It's just 1299 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 1: not her energy. She would not engage in the activities 1300 01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: such as this. Um but and I think that one's 1301 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,000 Speaker 1: important for the culture. Thank you for offering it. Um So, 1302 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 1: So we're to understand that Daniel and Casey will do 1303 01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:55,000 Speaker 1: a joint. I don't think so, honey, huge, Yes, this 1304 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Power of two Voices, because it's a big one. The 1305 01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Power of Two Voices is also a front runner for 1306 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 1: title of app The Power of Two Voices. How I 1307 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:11,320 Speaker 1: keep tossing about your machine. Okay, so this is a joint. 1308 01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 1: This is for the first time ever in Lost Culture history. 1309 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,880 Speaker 1: But when how exciting is that to say? In the 1310 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: seven years of this program we have not the fact 1311 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,000 Speaker 1: that they're still first, So so refreshing. Well. This podcast 1312 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,680 Speaker 1: has received critical acclaim and has been cited in academic 1313 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: work for the host inside into the entertainment industry. That's 1314 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,120 Speaker 1: on our Wikipedia page. We don't make the rules, nor 1315 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:36,679 Speaker 1: do we edit the page. Um, but this is daniel Snyders. 1316 01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Their time starts now. I 1317 01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:43,680 Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Bethany Frankel, I think we've had 1318 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,000 Speaker 1: enough with the tutorials. Number one, at least place yourself 1319 01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:50,639 Speaker 1: somewhere else than in your closet with cle messy kind 1320 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,080 Speaker 1: of cabinet behind you. I'm all set with your new 1321 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: podcast idea, Danielle, this new podcast idea, how dare you? 1322 01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:02,200 Speaker 1: First of all, is it a conflict of interest for us? 1323 01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Of course it save some For the rest of us. 1324 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,960 Speaker 1: We liked you when you were sort of humanitarian housewives. 1325 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:10,800 Speaker 1: You say you're done with it, you've moved on. You 1326 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,599 Speaker 1: don't need to be doing a rewatch, and you've named 1327 01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:18,240 Speaker 1: it rewise. I can't don't understand it. Also, you have 1328 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,040 Speaker 1: to come when you were doing a Healthwives podcast, and 1329 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: I say this, you have to come from it with love. 1330 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:24,960 Speaker 1: And you have such est sin. You look on the 1331 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,120 Speaker 1: on the Healthwives with disdain and now you're trying to 1332 01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: and I know you have a beauty line coming. That's 1333 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,680 Speaker 1: why you're tearing Everyone else is down in luand al 1334 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Step said, this is a failed pivot and that should 1335 01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,400 Speaker 1: be the name of my new memoir. But it is 1336 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: another failed pivot. Wow. And that is one minute, and 1337 01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:42,479 Speaker 1: that is this is this is something we really need 1338 01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:44,000 Speaker 1: to hear, because when I heard she was doing this, 1339 01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:48,479 Speaker 1: I too thought it was capital papathetic. Yes, she's lost, 1340 01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,920 Speaker 1: she's lost, she's lost, I thought, in the words of 1341 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,080 Speaker 1: what she said to Jill, many jills are in many 1342 01:13:56,160 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 1: years ago. Get a hobby. That's the name, Frank. Yes, 1343 01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: she's really spinning the wheels. And if you ever watch 1344 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 1: her on TikTok, that is a film that I would 1345 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 1: like to see one of these actresses you mentioned earlier 1346 01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,759 Speaker 1: take on, just like a ninety minute film of Bethany Frankel, 1347 01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 1: the rise and fall of the past six months of 1348 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,160 Speaker 1: her on TikTok taking on the establishment because she felt 1349 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,760 Speaker 1: she was shadow band, committing to her small following, ultimately 1350 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:27,240 Speaker 1: Decott deciding this isn't for me. I'm going to do podcast. Yes, 1351 01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 1: we went from makeup tutorials to those makeup tutorials are insane. 1352 01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: The lighting. I've only seen the lighting on them in 1353 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,240 Speaker 1: quick and quick little moments. I'm like, oh, there's the 1354 01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 1: setup is all wrong. Yeah. And also it's like it's 1355 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 1: okay to be like, the makeup tutorial is fun. It's 1356 01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: not like a comments on appearance or anything. Because when 1357 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,000 Speaker 1: you come up with like like for example, like when 1358 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,400 Speaker 1: you're doing a weight loss thing and you show it 1359 01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,479 Speaker 1: before and after, like the drop it withdrew of it all, 1360 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,559 Speaker 1: and you show it before and after, and the before 1361 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,120 Speaker 1: and after looks the same, that's not us commenting on 1362 01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,560 Speaker 1: your physique. That's us commenting on your business. It's like 1363 01:14:57,680 --> 01:15:00,400 Speaker 1: it looks like so you've literally showed us up before 1364 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 1: and after, so now it's fair game. Bethany Frankel in 1365 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:06,240 Speaker 1: Horrid Lightings doing a makeup tutorial and then not looking good. 1366 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,400 Speaker 1: That is weird game for us to be able to say, hey, mom, 1367 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't know a woman who brought a skinny girl 1368 01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,839 Speaker 1: is now attacking photoshop and women's body image. It's I'm 1369 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm upset with myself that I didn't include that in 1370 01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,599 Speaker 1: my minute. She's trying to pivot and say like, well, 1371 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,559 Speaker 1: skinny girl really isn't about way, Like it's like she's 1372 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,800 Speaker 1: as opposed to Yeah, you know what that was at 1373 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,840 Speaker 1: a time when I thought that was important, like either 1374 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,439 Speaker 1: own it or don't own it, but she she's like 1375 01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,679 Speaker 1: trying to ride that line in the middle. And sorry, 1376 01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,519 Speaker 1: now we don't believe. I appreciate her humanitarian work, but 1377 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I find it interesting. She can so 1378 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,840 Speaker 1: show such great compassion, but it's always not to actual people, 1379 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, people who are like dog people or she 1380 01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,519 Speaker 1: had a remove. I think she seems to have a 1381 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,759 Speaker 1: very big she has a very big heart, and it's amazing, 1382 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 1: but there's something like in person, she's the least warm human. 1383 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh no, it's it's um she is, and like one 1384 01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 1: of those angiograms or whatever that it's like she is 1385 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,920 Speaker 1: an achiever and she's an individualist where it's like her 1386 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:09,719 Speaker 1: she's like putting the achievement in like sort of like 1387 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,640 Speaker 1: altruistic thing of like here, I'm helping the people of 1388 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico out. But it's like and I don't I 1389 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,160 Speaker 1: don't like to accuse anyone of this, but it feels 1390 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,439 Speaker 1: self serving. Well, I think anything she does, like even 1391 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad she's doing it. Fine, let it be self serving, 1392 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: but it is like we can't acknowledge that, like she 1393 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,640 Speaker 1: is helping I'm glad she has continued to do that, 1394 01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:33,519 Speaker 1: continue to self serve, but it is serving herself. Yeah, 1395 01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,280 Speaker 1: but I think that the difference is that when it 1396 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 1: is a large group of amorphous people, she's not seeing 1397 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: it's like she she can commit to that, but then 1398 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:47,160 Speaker 1: in basic humanity, one on one interactions, she's actually quite cruel, 1399 01:16:47,800 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 1: like it's it goes beyond just like, oh, that's something 1400 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,679 Speaker 1: nasty on housewives like lu Anne, Like I think when 1401 01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,600 Speaker 1: she came up for air years later and was like, 1402 01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: oh no, the worst thing anyone's ever done to me 1403 01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:02,439 Speaker 1: was bring the cameras into that room and show me 1404 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:06,320 Speaker 1: a text that obviously she had, like she had premeditated this, 1405 01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,840 Speaker 1: and on camera she showed me my husband was cheating 1406 01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:11,200 Speaker 1: on me. And I begged her not to. I said, 1407 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:13,599 Speaker 1: don't do it. And of course now it made an 1408 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:16,960 Speaker 1: iconic scene. Question mark, you know it made an iconic scene. 1409 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:22,400 Speaker 1: I want you to to do this to me. Question But 1410 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 1: but that was the worst moment of her life, I 1411 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 1: will say, And this is a sketch that no one 1412 01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:29,880 Speaker 1: has to watch, no one. I'm not doing that thing 1413 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,640 Speaker 1: where I'm like I wrote a sketch. We did a 1414 01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: sketch last night, me and Sarah Sherman where we're jurors 1415 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,880 Speaker 1: and we're screaming and everything we're reacting in this scary 1416 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,560 Speaker 1: like oh no, no, no, please please don't But it's 1417 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:44,519 Speaker 1: it was from the source of it all was Sarah 1418 01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,599 Speaker 1: and I were laughing at that moment in that string 1419 01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,400 Speaker 1: of episodes when Bethany tells Ramona about the cheating and 1420 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:55,479 Speaker 1: then Ramona goes like Ramona just screams and runs to 1421 01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:57,360 Speaker 1: the bathrooms, just like, look at me, to look at 1422 01:17:57,400 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 1: herself in the mirror, look at me, look at me, 1423 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: so funny, look at me. I'm crying. Is so Sarah 1424 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:13,200 Speaker 1: Sherman came on and she killed me. I love her, so, 1425 01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:16,519 Speaker 1: she said Lisa in his hair at Sutton's tracks. Was 1426 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:23,600 Speaker 1: blown back by the speed of light, blown back by 1427 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:28,479 Speaker 1: Sarah's at Star and she and Bow and her sisters 1428 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:32,320 Speaker 1: at the show, love love, love, love her. Well, this 1429 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 1: has been pretty much everything I could have ever wanted 1430 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,439 Speaker 1: it to be. It's been a long time coming for 1431 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:40,519 Speaker 1: you guys to be on. When you will return, so 1432 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,680 Speaker 1: much fun and hey, where can people get your podcast? 1433 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:52,360 Speaker 1: All your podcast Netflix dot com, Netflix dot com. You're 1434 01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:55,320 Speaker 1: so lovely and warm. I love listening to you. You're 1435 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,759 Speaker 1: just such a highlight in a light in this world, 1436 01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:02,320 Speaker 1: truly at an exaggeration. No, I love you guys so much. 1437 01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,200 Speaker 1: And even though we were both against each other for 1438 01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:09,840 Speaker 1: the people's choice, the words what a moment in history 1439 01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,040 Speaker 1: and we do we both do? We we both lost 1440 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,960 Speaker 1: who one did it was? Was it like reasonably shady? 1441 01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 1: I think something out something else like doctor's in the 1442 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,680 Speaker 1: house or something. I don't know what it was. Danielle. 1443 01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: Danielle bought a dress the day we were nominated. Yeah, 1444 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:27,840 Speaker 1: I bought a dress and then they were like, yeah, 1445 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:31,880 Speaker 1: only for us to find we were not invited. But 1446 01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,080 Speaker 1: that's okay, that's she used to buy address. Of course 1447 01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:40,760 Speaker 1: you were nominated for a And also wait, did wait 1448 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,479 Speaker 1: one more thing? Did you know? I just did Melissa 1449 01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 1: Gorgon's podcast and we are the best of friends now 1450 01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:47,760 Speaker 1: and I know I'm going to get drunk with her 1451 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,680 Speaker 1: and her husband. You don't think she's going to be 1452 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:54,880 Speaker 1: on Masked as a villain this year? I don't care, okay, 1453 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:58,960 Speaker 1: because I am like, I am like and die Teresa. 1454 01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:03,760 Speaker 1: I I I am allergic to Teresa. Okay, No, I'm 1455 01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,080 Speaker 1: not Teresa Hive. But that's I guess that's for Part two. 1456 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Guys are the best. Daniel and Casey, thank you so 1457 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,200 Speaker 1: much for doing the show, Thank you for having us. 1458 01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: We end every episode with a song. And today is 1459 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,920 Speaker 1: a major day. It's bone Yank's birthday, so we sing 1460 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:23,320 Speaker 1: the most famous song in the world for him. Happy 1461 01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:36,120 Speaker 1: Birthday is one of the most famous songs, like that 1462 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:57,040 Speaker 1: Happy harde of America's Greatest Treasures National Treasure Day, And 1463 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:03,960 Speaker 1: what do I want for Christmas? I don't want. It 1464 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:08,120 Speaker 1: becomes like it becomes like like a mix, a mashup 1465 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:13,800 Speaker 1: of songs. Come back, Come Come. That song is good, 1466 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 1: best songs I ever heard that song? Have you heard 1467 01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:21,880 Speaker 1: Brandy's the House by Yeah Yeah, like a house like 1468 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,280 Speaker 1: it's a rap song though by Brandy Glenville by Brandi 1469 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 1: Glenville her so, oh my god. So everyone's gonna go 1470 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:29,200 Speaker 1: stream now one right now,