1 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Well, Happy New Year everyone, and welcome to our first 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: show of twenty twenty five. It's Between the Horns, presented 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: about your Southern California Toyota Dealers, and it is home 4 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: to the twenty twenty four NSC West Champions with Stu 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: Jackson and DeMarco Farr. I am JB. Long, wishing you 6 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a very safe, happy, prosperous new year. How you guys doing. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: I'm good. I'd love that Division champs? Unbelievable? Can you? 8 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Can you really believe it? We're sitting here as Division champs? 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 3: Unreal? Can you? 10 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 4: It's quite the remarkable turnaround. I will say things were 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 4: looking tough at first. Ye never never count out this group, 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 4: specially Sean McVay. 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: And speaking of how about the fact that in his 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: eight seasons he's won the NFC West and half of them, like, 15 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: Sean McVay has won as many division titles as the 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: rest of the West combined since he showed up in 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: two thousand. 18 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 3: Wow, you know that's so funny. 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: One of the things we're going to talk about on 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: this show is like, what is the favorite season? 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: How do we rank this one? 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: His first year in twenty seventeen, still stands out as 23 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 2: the best because of the drought in between, how long 24 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 2: it took to get back to number one. And I 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: remember all the talk about him, he's too young, he's 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: to this, he's do that. But since then it's been 27 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: nothing but winning and nothing but great. So for Rams fans, 28 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: this is your best era of all time. This might 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 2: be your greatest coach of all time. So what he's 30 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: done this year nothing short of miraculous. But his whole 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: run has been unbelievable. 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: I love that you did that. There's no script to 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: this year, yea, you brought it up. Were going there 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,919 Speaker 1: right now, Stu, what is Sean mcvay's best season? 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 4: I might put this one up there. I mean, again 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 4: from my experience, I've been with the team since twenty nineteen, 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 4: so that's really the point of reference I have as 38 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: far as like really closely following this team and whatnot. 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 4: But you know, for me, just thinking about the injuries 40 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 4: that this group had to overcome, that he and this 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: coaching staff had to overcome when they started one and four, 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: especially on the offensive line, especially for the extended stretch 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 4: that they were without Hookah and Cooper. Like, again, from 44 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 4: my frame of reference, like, I can't think of a 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 4: season other then again, kind of the twenty twenty two 46 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: year where there was just an unlucky rash of injuries, 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: where you deal with that many setbacks and still once 48 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 4: everybody gets back healthy and once you find a semblance 49 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 4: of continuity when nine of eleven five straight to become 50 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 4: division champions, Like, there's something to be said for that. 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,079 Speaker 1: We should stipulate that how this season will be remembered 52 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: is still to be determined, that this could elevate to 53 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: his best season. 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 2: In a hurry, I said, this is it's a good story. 55 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: One and four two division champs. You want to make 56 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: this story great. You want to make this song from 57 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 2: gold to platinum. You got to win in the playoffs. Yeah, 58 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: then you will never stop talking about this. Right now, 59 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: it's something that's fun. It's a blurb across the headline. 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: But if you win in the playoffs, boom, everybody will 61 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 2: be talking about. 62 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: So here's how I answered this question, and you pick 63 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: it apart twenty one best you got Colembardi right, most 64 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: impressive I was between twenty eighteen and last year in 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: terms of the rocket ship. That was the eighteen offense 66 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: and then just how unexpected and enjoyable what he did 67 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: with what was perceived to be so little last year. Yeah, 68 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: I would start for now as a placeholder by calling 69 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: twenty four his most complete season, where he became, you know, 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: a CEO like head coach. His imprint is on all 71 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: three phases of the organization, x's and o's leadership, staying 72 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: in the fight all that. 73 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 3: You know. 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: Okay, So eighteen was Super Bowl lost to New England, right, 75 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: I mean that team was fantastic. I mean, as a 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: old D lineman, that was my favorite year. That's Sue 77 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: and Donell on the same D line that was great. 78 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one, same thing. I mean this year, to 79 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 2: go from one to four, a young defense and with 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: an offensive line that you constantly had to fix and 81 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: change and rotate, and you're trying to figure out how 82 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: to get things done, to not let go of the rope, 83 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: and to because we do the coaches show well sometimes 84 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: me and him, we. 85 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Miss you, buddy, I do miss you. 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: But to sit here and listen to him every day 87 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: or during that one and four stretch, and even going 88 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: back to last season, just never let go of the rope, 89 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 2: not even seem like he got to the end. 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: Of the rope. 91 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 2: It's just there's this relentless positivity or this relentless drive 92 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: towards winning. You knew he's gonna get it right. They're 93 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: gonna get it right. And I never thought it would 94 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: be this type of run five and zero or whatever. 95 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: But you knew this team was never gonna stop fighting, 96 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: and they keep finding ways to win. And it's all 97 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: because of that culture he's created when he got here 98 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: in the first place. 99 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: Let me ask you something, because I think fiery pregame 100 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: or halftime speeches are probably overrated in football lore. But 101 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: what I don't think is overrated is when you have 102 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 1: a man who can stand in front of a room 103 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: and say, you've got thirty nine days guaranteed left, what 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: do you want to make of them? Can I get 105 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: your buy in? And this happens, There's got to be 106 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: something to that, DeMarco. From your players standpoint, there's a. 107 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 3: Lot of rah rah. 108 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: We've heard rarah. Guys come up with the great slogans 109 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: or whatever. They read it in some book and they 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: bring it to the team and it's yeah. But when 111 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: when a guy can look you in the eye and 112 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: look you right in the soul and take you back 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: to Pop Warner football, to why you're playing this game 114 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 2: in the first place. And it's not just bs, it's real. 115 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 2: I mean, this is how he feels about it, This 116 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: is how he feels about you. And this is why 117 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 2: we say, you know, the culture on winning teams is different. 118 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 2: It's because of coach McVeigh and guys like him so 119 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 2: and not just him, the entire coaching staff and the 120 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 2: players have bought in. So when we talk about not 121 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: letting go of the rope, it's everybody, but it starts 122 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: with him. And you can tell from every man on 123 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: this roster they're all pulling in the same direction. So 124 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: no shock to me that they wound up being division chance. 125 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Well here's where I think it starts and ends with him. 126 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: It's remember two years ago, not even two full years ago, 127 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: and management pens an open letter to the fan base saying, hey, 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: we know what this has been. It's going to change. 129 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to make some hard decisions. We got 130 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: to get our books in order. Bear with us. We 131 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: still want to be a competitive but it's gonna look 132 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: and feel different. Okay, Since that letter, Ten wins in 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: a playoff spot, ten, maybe eleven wins in a division title. 134 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: That's because of lots of things, but Sean mcvay' is 135 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: at the top of that list. And then I'll also say, 136 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: how about less need in his group to draft and develop? 137 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: How should we say at the last two and a 138 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: half defensive rookies of the year. I mean, like Kobe 139 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Turner is going to go down in my memory bank 140 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: as the twenty three winner. Jared Verse, I think has 141 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 1: clinched this year's but his running mate Braid and Fisk 142 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: equally deserving. 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, you think about, especially on the defensive side of 144 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 4: the ball, the production they've gotten from the rookies. This 145 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 4: was something I found the other day, but thirteen sacks 146 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 4: is the most by rookies of any team in the 147 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 4: league at least entering week eighteen. Eight interceptions, that's tied 148 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 4: for the most with Houston against specific to rookies, and 149 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 4: also entering week eighteen. So you know, from the standpoint 150 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 4: of no, you're not going to replace Aaron Donald, but 151 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 4: in the aggregate, you're gonna at least try like they've 152 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: they've done pretty well in that regard. 153 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: Another perfect name to drop in the midst of all 154 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: that you retired, They in franchise history, and Poku Nakua 155 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: set rookie records, and you got coaches hired and promoted 156 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: here and around the league. It's stunning. Let's get to 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: where the Rams are competitively as we both look ahead 158 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: to wild card weekend and look back on Week seventeen 159 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: and another gritty win against the Arizona Cardinals. DeMarco, you 160 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: steer here, tickets, anywhere you want to go in terms 161 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: of where your mind has wandered since the Rams clinched. 162 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: Gritty is a good word for that win. Wouldn't you 163 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: say gritty, tough or this season, the whole season, but 164 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: just that game. I guess in a microcosm Arizona's defense, 165 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: I dare you, let's watch that tape. Show me one 166 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: below average play on that defense. So there was tough 167 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: sledding out there and you had to make plays, you 168 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: had to have things happen. And Pokin Nakua continues to 169 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: come up big for this football team. And on the 170 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: other side, I'm glad you mentioned those three guys, Kobe 171 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: turned and Fisk and Verse. They're like termites out there. 172 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: I mean, they just drill into your offensive line and 173 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 2: they just destroy your foundation. Jared Verse to Mike count 174 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: has hurt people, not just quarterbacks. I'm talking the guys 175 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: that are blocking him. They get beat up playing against him. 176 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 2: And Fisk has been nothing but special. But Kobe Turner, 177 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 2: his rise into year two as not only a good 178 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: football player but also as one of these the team's 179 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: leaders on defense has been exemplary. 180 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: So gritty. 181 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: You make plays when you have to, big plays when 182 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 2: you need to, and you do just enough to you know, 183 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: keep your team in the black. So it's a gritty victory. 184 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: I'm sure people want, you know, a more of a 185 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 2: style point win er. It's got to look a little pretty, 186 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: but I don't think this team cares. It's get the 187 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: W and move on to next week. So gritty win. 188 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 2: I think all this is gonna help you moving forward 189 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: going into the postseason. 190 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: It's the tougher in yards from Kien Williams for me, 191 00:08:57,520 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 4: just the way they've been able to consistently lean on 192 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 4: him during the stretch and being able to stay ahead 193 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: of the chains, and in some cases when you know 194 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: they're not getting what they want to out of the 195 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: passing game or when other teams defenses are taking that away, 196 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 4: the teams that are you know, most successful and able 197 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 4: to make deep runs into the postseason, are able to 198 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 4: consistently rely on that ground game, and that's something that's 199 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: been a positive. 200 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 3: How the heck does he not make the Pro Bowl? 201 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: Kiren? 202 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: Yes, question, Please tell me. I asked you that when 203 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: you were on the show. He third best back in 204 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: the league? 205 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: Fair enough? 206 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: When they talk about those other two, those other two starbacks, 207 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 2: his face is right there. 208 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 3: How does he not make the answer? 209 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Then? And my answer now is there aren't three backs 210 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: that I love more for the Los Angeles Rams. 211 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 2: But it's funny how it moves, right. So the other 212 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: backs they're more flashy long runs. Okay, so let's go 213 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: back to DTS. Doesn't Fisk have more sacks than almost 214 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 2: every Pro bowler out there? So does Kobe Turner. So 215 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 2: flashy matters here, but not there. 216 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: So at the end of the show, we're going to 217 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: talk about our fondest Sorry, keep the soap o, that's 218 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: what this show is for. But at the end of 219 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: the show, we'll talk about our fondest memories of twenty 220 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: four in some New Year's resolutions for the Rams in 221 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: twenty five, Kyraen's a top that list for me, we 222 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: know his injury pass has been checkered. This guy played 223 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 1: every game and took over three hundred carries. Whether or 224 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: not it comes with the accolades, I think that is 225 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: an unbelievable individual and organizational accomplishment that I'll remember fondly 226 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: from this season. It goes kind of hand in hand 227 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: with I feel about this team, though, which is I 228 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: know a lot of our audience is frustrated with the 229 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: lack of offensive production down the stretch. I'm right there 230 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: with you. I had to remind myself in preparation for 231 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: this show in this week. Analytically, this is still a 232 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: top ten offense in the National Football League. The team 233 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: that played against Buffalo is still in there. Sean McVay 234 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 1: sat in that seat and said the best is yet 235 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: to come from this offense earlier this week. But I 236 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: also think it's okay to embrace the fact that this 237 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: is a defensive driven team. Whereas the offense is top 238 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: ten statistically, defense is only top twenty. But they have 239 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: been there in the critical moments. They have made the 240 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: winning plays that have allowed this to be an NFC 241 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: West champion. I think what we all feel is that 242 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: there's just not a ton of margin for air. At 243 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: least in the regular season version of the twenty four RAMS. 244 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: Eight of their ten wins have been by one possession. 245 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: Five of those wins have featured multiple takeaways. That's hard 246 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: to do. Three of their wins have included a non 247 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: offensive touchdown. That's why they're here. It's not necessarily theup 248 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: the blueprint for where they want to go. Oh does 249 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: that make it totally total? 250 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 3: That's why I'm so glad they wrapped it up. 251 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Or you know when Washington won, when you won in 252 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 2: the vision, you can take this week off, so to speak, 253 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: or rest your starters, and rest one starter in particular, 254 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. This is the reason. This is the everything. 255 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: This is the most paramount guy that you have to 256 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: have ready for the postseason. So if I could change 257 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 2: one thing or point to one thing to say why 258 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 2: the offense has been struggling, you'd have to go back 259 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: to Sometimes he's inaccurate early, but he does warm up 260 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 2: and get going, and that tells me that he may 261 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 2: need some time to rest a little bit. 262 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: This might be perfect for him. 263 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 2: So uh, if you get him back and gunning and 264 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: he can find Cooper Cup and he can find everyone 265 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 2: else like he finds Pooka Nakua. You'll see that buffalo 266 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 2: style offense again. Right now, it's a tough, gritty run 267 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 2: it with Kiren do enough. But at some point, if 268 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 2: you can find a way to make your quarterback a 269 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: little more accurate, maybe that means rest a little bit 270 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 2: more rest, I think you'll see that offensive explosion that 271 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: people are looking for. 272 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: He's not just a super Bowl champion, he is the 273 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: human segue DeMarco taking this right to this week, which 274 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: is the privilege they've earned the opportunity to rest, either deactivate, 275 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: or pull snap count back from starters. We know that 276 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is gonna goest do what else do we 277 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: know as we anticipate the Seahawks. 278 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still working through exactly who's going to rest 279 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: and who's not. I mean, we do know that you know, 280 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: Rob Havenstein won't play, but again because of his shoulder injury. 281 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 4: It sounds like that's a you know, a blessing in 282 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 4: this guy's just being able to you know, have him 283 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 4: not play anyway, but should be ready for the for 284 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: the wild card round, which is a positive. And so 285 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 4: you know, we'll still see what that looks like. I mean, again, 286 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 4: going back to the Coach of Ray show earlier this week, 287 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: it sounds like we'll see more of Blake Koram, which 288 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 4: is good. Yeah, and then beyond that again, who knows. 289 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's probably a little bit of you know, 290 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 4: gamesmanship to that maybe. But the other thing I'll say 291 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 4: too is it's tricky with the roster math if you will, 292 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 4: you know, when people are trying to figure out, okay, 293 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 4: like who's gonna rest who's not, Like you can't see 294 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: as many people as you can the preseason, for one, 295 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: because you have a game day forty eight as far 296 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 4: like forty eight is the size of the game day 297 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 4: roster versus obviously the ninety man roster that you have 298 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 4: to work with in the preseason, where you know, the 299 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 4: preseason finale were used to you know, some of those 300 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 4: decisions being a little bit easier in terms of having 301 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: a little bit deeper of a depth chart. So just 302 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: some roster math like that to work through. But that's 303 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 4: where right right now. 304 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: I mean, when you look at the relative age and 305 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: experience difference on offense and defense, I think you can 306 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: connect some dots in terms of who is and who 307 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: isn't going to go, and we'll talk about who we're 308 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing against the Seahawks coming up here 309 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: in just a bit. 310 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 3: But boom. 311 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: Did anybody catch noteboom doing the two small thing on 312 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 2: the end of the screen. 313 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: I saw that. I see you know, boom, go ahead. 314 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. 315 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say, I want to honor 316 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: and acknowledge and respect the portion of our audience that 317 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: doesn't like the concept of resting starters, and that would 318 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: probably point to the playoff games the Rams have lost 319 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: against the Falcons and seventeen and the Lions in twenty 320 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: three as those being the years when the Rams had 321 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: this luxury, picked this path and it didn't work out 322 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: necessarily in the preseason, I got a lot to say 323 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: about that. But DeMarco Yugo, first, as the former player, Now, 324 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: in the construct of a seventeen game season, where are 325 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: you at with respect to resting guys. 326 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: This is a smart time to rest some guys on offense. 327 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 2: You're an older team at some positions and some frankly, 328 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: some guys need a week off and to heal up. 329 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 3: And there's some. 330 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 2: Younger players that can play and like, let Garoppolo take 331 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: some snaps. 332 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 3: Why not? I get both sides. 333 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: If you're an offense that's clicking and you're rolling, and 334 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: you want to roll into the playoffs, it makes no 335 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: sense to set your players down if they're playing well. 336 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: But if you're a team that needs to take a 337 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: week and get guys back, then it's smart to rest 338 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 2: your guys. Why risk them? And does it really matter 339 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 2: going from three to four? I guess we'll get to 340 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: that later. Not another human segue, but I mean you've 341 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: already locked up the division. Take the rest. This is 342 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 2: a bye week built in going into the playoffs. I 343 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: think it's perfect well. 344 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: And Sean McVay said the other day too that you know, 345 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 4: seating really didn't have much to do with these decisions 346 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 4: or wasn't going to be a factor. They just know 347 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: that they're going to get a quality opponent regardless based 348 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 4: on all of those scenarios that are at play. And 349 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: so for the way I look at as well, as 350 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 4: you know, with all the lessons learned in continuity this 351 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 4: season and some of the health challenges you faced already, 352 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: the best thing for the team's continuity and keeping that 353 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: streat going as a lot of goal as it may 354 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 4: kind of sound, is preserving the health as much as 355 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 4: you ostensibly can before the playoffs. 356 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: The three seed absolutely matters. It has built in advantages. 357 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: We've seen that in recent years. It just doesn't matter 358 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: enough to prioritize it over the risk of losing a 359 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: piece that can help you beat any other team in 360 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: the field. And so I think the best way to 361 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: maximize your winning percentage in the wild card round is 362 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: to have as many of your top line guys available 363 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: to minimize your injury report. And I also want to 364 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: say it's not like DeMarco helped me out here. The 365 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: Rams aren't practicing like Stafford and Kiren aren't and Cabo 366 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: here working out. They're gearing their bandwidth towards whoever's coming 367 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: here on wild card weekend, rather than burning it on 368 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: a game plan against the Seahawks that doesn't move the 369 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: needle for the team physically. 370 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: You get the week off. 371 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: On game day, you're still going to practice, but mentally, 372 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: you just you have that little bit of a break 373 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 2: to think of Matthew Stafford. Everything revolves around him. He's 374 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: involved in every single meeting. You get the week off, 375 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: let Garoppolo take it so I can just have that 376 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: mental vacation and that physical vacation and then but you're 377 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: still on the building, You're still helping you become. 378 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: The backup quarterback, So I can't. 379 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: It's it's nothing but positive at this point for this 380 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: football team taking that week versus the Seahawks. 381 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I think it also matters that the buye was back 382 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: in Week six. The Rams would not be here. I 383 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: think we can all agree if they weren't fortunate enough 384 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: to catch the earliest buye of the Sean McVay era. 385 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: But the shadow side of that is they've been going 386 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: for eleven straight weeks. Like this is a well deserved 387 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 1: respite for some key pieces, and I would put Sean 388 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: mcfah at the top of that list. To like, if 389 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: he is outsourcing any part of this game plan or 390 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: play calling on Sunday to the against the Seattle Seahawks, 391 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: if he's rejuvenated, if he's devoting more time and energy 392 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: to self scouting and preparing his game plan for what's 393 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: going to take to work on wild Card weekend, I 394 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: think that's a major attribute too. 395 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And like versus Arizona, and like it was versus 396 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 2: the Jets, it's it's really hard when you know you're 397 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: probably there's a good chance when you're you left New York, 398 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 2: good chance we're going to make the postseason. When you're 399 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: in Arizona, if we win this, good chance for going 400 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: to the postseason. So you don't want to give away 401 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 2: too much offensively, Well, I mean, I'm sure Arizona would 402 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: know that, and Buddha Baker was everywhere, and you can't 403 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 2: tell me that guy wasn't dialed into all the base 404 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 2: stuff you were doing. So but if this was a 405 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 2: playoff game, I bet it would have been a little 406 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: bit tougher on them to dial in on what you 407 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 2: were trying to do. So yeah, I mean even for 408 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: Sean McVay, like you said, to have another week to 409 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: game plan, to not show anything, to keep every team 410 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: guessing that you're going to face into the postseason. 411 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 3: That's hard to do. 412 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 2: And you get the week to kind of dial it 413 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: back or to get ahead going on to your next 414 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: four opponents who that might be. I think it's so important, 415 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 2: like you said, to take a step back when you 416 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: have the opportunity versus let's just plow ahead, try to 417 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 2: keep the three seed. 418 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 3: If that's what we need. 419 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: Yet they're not naive to where their deficiencies lie. They 420 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: just want to go to work on them, be in 421 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,959 Speaker 1: the lab here in Woodland Hills, rather than putting it 422 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 1: on display at SOFI Stadium against the Seahawks for their 423 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: wild card opponent to see. All right, we don't know 424 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: who next week's opponent is going to be. We have 425 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 1: a pretty short list though, and as we get to 426 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: Week eighteen and getting ready for the postseason, here are 427 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: a few things I think bear watching. First. If Washington 428 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: wins the Packers result does not matter, the Commanders are 429 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: going to be the sixth, the Packers the seven, So 430 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay needs a Washington loss and a green Bay 431 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: win of the Bears to flip that six seven seeding. 432 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: If New Orleans upsets Tampa Bay, the Rams will be 433 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: locked into the three seed before they even kick off 434 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,360 Speaker 1: at SOFI Stadium, and we'll know their opponent either Washington 435 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: or Green Bay. Otherwise, the Bucks are in line to 436 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: clinch the South and will force the Rams to either 437 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: win in order to get the three seed or on 438 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: you go. 439 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: Can't get rid of Baker, can we? He's still there? 440 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god? 441 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl snub Baker? 442 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, tough kid. 443 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But basically the Rams currently own the three, 444 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: and they will be the three with a win against 445 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: Seattle or a Tampa Bay loss to New Orleans. Hopes 446 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: that that helps. I don't know, Stu, take it away. 447 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: You've studied this a lot. What do you think do 448 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: you have any lean in terms of which opponent would 449 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: be good, bad, or otherwise for the Rams? 450 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 4: Well, the way Jayden Daniels has been playing of late, 451 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 4: that Washington offense scares me a little bit at least 452 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 4: just again and seeing, you know, some of the challenges 453 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 4: that that's presented this defense in terms of those types 454 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 4: of quarterbacks, the way they can run and challenge you know, 455 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 4: those you know, rush lane integrities, especially like they worry me, 456 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 4: especially I think what Green Bay found in their run 457 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 4: game of late. I mean again, who knows if that 458 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 4: identity is going to carry over into the playoffs or 459 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: if that's just Matt Laford knowing that this is what 460 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: works and this is what's carrying us, has been mostly 461 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 4: carrying us to wins and you know, switching so that 462 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 4: he can switch things up and save something for some 463 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 4: of the playoffs. Who knows, But any of the NFC 464 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 4: North teams honestly are going to be a challenge. 465 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,400 Speaker 1: And you get the NFC North opponent. If you're the four, 466 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: then you get the loser of Sunday Nights Finale. If 467 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: you're the three, either the Commanders or the Packers. 468 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: I'm with you on Jayden Daniels, fantastic year, Mobile quarterbacks 469 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 2: of giving. This league fits, this defense definitely fits this year. 470 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 3: So that would be fun. 471 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not scared of anybody, but that would 472 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 2: be your least favorite matchup. Green Bay and the Rams. 473 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 2: You just again, neck and neck. They're always there with you. 474 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,639 Speaker 2: Go back to last year, something happened in that game. 475 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: Both teams switched. Jordan Love went to a whole new level. 476 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: Here they are again. You may see them, you know 477 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: the game I'm hoping for. I hope you get that. 478 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 2: Of course, that would be so much fun because going 479 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 2: back there twice was fun and that was about as 480 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 2: rack as of an atmosphere as I've ever been around. 481 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: So I would like them to experience that here and 482 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: so far if that's if that's possible, But you know 483 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 2: who cares, three or four, whoever you match up with, 484 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: just make sure you're playing your best football when you 485 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 2: do kick off in the way. 486 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: I like the Jayden Daniels point you make talk about 487 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: a wild card. On the one hand, to host a 488 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback in the playoffs, that's about as good as 489 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: you can hope for. On the other hand, it's been 490 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: the rost of raw nerves for this LA team mobile 491 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: quarterbacks all season. So you're saying, right, for a guy 492 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: who's basically a third of his production has come via 493 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: scramble this season, here's something else to watch Sunday. We know, 494 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: by virtue of winning the West, the Rams are going 495 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 1: to catch a first place schedule next year, right, So 496 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: that means we already know it comes with a trip 497 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: to Philadelphia to face the NFC East champion Eagles. It's 498 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: going to require a trip to face the AFC North winner. 499 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: We'll find out Saturday if that's Baltimore or Pittsburgh. 500 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 3: You laugh, because go in to Philly and then you 501 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 3: got to go take on the North. Okay, yeah, that's fun. 502 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then come into games coming to Sofi will 503 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: be the NFC North winner to be decided on Sunday 504 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: night football, Right, So if I have that correct, it's 505 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: very possible that the final game of the NFL regular season. 506 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: This weekend is going to have these implications for your rams. 507 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: The loser of that game could come to SOFI for 508 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: a wild card next week. The winner of that game 509 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: will come to SOFI next year for regular season. 510 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 3: Should think it easier if you win the division? Shouldn't 511 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 3: you can be easier schedule? 512 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,479 Speaker 1: You want me to really ruin your day? Wow, I'm 513 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: gonna ruin your dad. Oh, the twenty twenty five San 514 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine er is gonna play a fourth place schedule. 515 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. I just ain't right. I just ain't right. 516 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: This is why we can't have nights. 517 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh my god. Right. 518 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: I think Jimmy Garoppolo deserves his own portion of the conversation, 519 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: don't you think we? I think we've been pleased, privileged 520 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: not to have to see Jimmy Garoppolo yet as a RAM. 521 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: But the time has come and it comes in the 522 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: right context. Do you got to talk to him yesterday 523 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 1: a little bit? 524 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, he met with the media and got the chance to, 525 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 4: you know, learn a little bit about just what his 526 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 4: role behind the scenes essentially has been, like, you know, 527 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: for this team this season, and you know, the scout 528 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 4: team role is something he's really embraced. It's been you know, 529 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 4: it seemed like it's been a really positive I almost, 530 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 4: I guess, for lack of a better term, reset year 531 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: for him in terms of just being able to be 532 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 4: in that quarterback room with Matthew Stafford and all those coaches, 533 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 4: which is something he talked about in their process, the 534 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 4: way Sean McVeigh teaches this offense. All of those things 535 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 4: have made or a really positive experience for him. And 536 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 4: you know, he's obviously looking forward to having the chance 537 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 4: on Sunday to you know, show what he's learned and 538 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: what he's been able to provide this team. But now 539 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 4: in a live game, action setting. 540 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 2: I can't wait. The dude's got unbelievable swag. It's just 541 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: funny watching him, like, you know, get off the bus 542 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: going to the stadium. He looks like a starter. Where 543 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 2: were you on Garoppolo before he came here? Because I 544 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: know we have respect because all he did when he 545 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: was other places was beat the Rams. I thought he 546 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,719 Speaker 2: was a pretty good starter. I thought he was one 547 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 2: of the better starters in the league. 548 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? 549 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: I did not like being on the defensive side of 550 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: third and long when Jimmy Garoppolo was on the field. Yeah, say, 551 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: for one key exception when Aaron Donald put him in 552 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: the spin cycle, he was a thorn in the Rams side. 553 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: He just couldn't get rid of him. So yeah, I 554 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 2: can't wait to see him go. You know, we saw 555 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: guys Carson Wentz came through here, Baker Mayfield came through here, 556 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 2: and Baker Mayfield is you know, doing well in Tampa. 557 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: So maybe for Garoppolo, you get your start, you show 558 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 2: and improved, you may be in the mix or who knows, 559 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 2: But I just can't wait to see him go. I 560 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: was always a fan from Afar. Now I get to 561 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: see him up close, so this will be fun. 562 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: Who else? Who else are you looking forward to seeing, 563 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: either for the first time or in a larger role 564 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: than we're used to for the Rams. 565 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: Well, Blake Korm, if he gets extended run, that's gonna 566 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: be fun. And you know we were talking about this 567 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: with about Kyron and how he serfs the hole in 568 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 2: his football IQ. Blake Korm has that stuff that can 569 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,719 Speaker 2: make something out of nothing. He can bump off here, 570 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 2: bump this guy and keep running. So I'd like to 571 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 2: see him with extended reps. More Joe Oapeboom, like I 572 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: said when he gave the too small thing on the screen, 573 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 2: it's so funny, it's so funny. But just watching him 574 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 2: get better, like you have another week to prove yourself 575 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: again to this team, to this league, to everyone. It's 576 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 2: another starter's opportunity. So same with Garoppolo, Boom, Korum, the 577 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: young defensive players. I don't think Fisk and Verse get 578 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,920 Speaker 2: the week off, right, they're too young. I think that's right, 579 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 2: even if you're a Pro Bowl or you gotta go. Well, 580 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: it goes to Stu's point. You only have so many inactives, right, 581 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: and as vital as they are to your operation in 582 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: terms of seniority and bumps and bruises and yeah, tread 583 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 2: on tires, I don't think they rate. 584 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: You gotta play. 585 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 2: So some other guys that you know, possibly haven't played 586 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 2: that much, can't wait. But just those two guys Boom, Garoppolo, Kreham, 587 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 2: let me let me see what you got on game day. 588 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with Jordan Waittington again. We not exactly 589 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 4: the same as Blake Krham situation, where we he did 590 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 4: get a little bit of extended run around mill early 591 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 4: part of the season when Cooper and and Puka were 592 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 4: both hurt and show a little bit of what he 593 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 4: can do. So we have an idea. But just between 594 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 4: what he's been able to do on special teams and 595 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 4: perhaps maybe getting the chance to, you know, show more 596 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 4: offensively at least as a more regular part of the 597 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 4: wide receiver rotation. I think it's something I'm looking forward to. 598 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 4: And then maybe even if any of the younger corners 599 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 4: get a chance. I mean again, because of that roster 600 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 4: math that we've been talking about, Well, we'll see what 601 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,439 Speaker 4: that looks like as far as you know who's up 602 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 4: and who's not for the secondary, but if any of 603 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 4: those guys get a chance, like I'd be curious to 604 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 4: see how that depth looks right now, I'll. 605 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: Go back to that in a second. I agree with 606 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: your picks, Blake korhum Jordan. I'd add to to two 607 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: to that mix. I would love to see Tyler Higbee 608 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 1: get like five catches a touchdown in the second half 609 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: off like I'd like to see him play some full speed, 610 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: smash mouth football. Whatever rust is left over. I want 611 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: him feeling fully integrated and back for the playoffs. 612 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: If Stafford hits him, here in that little leakout. Yea, 613 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,199 Speaker 2: if he turns up, yeah, that's a problem. There's one 614 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 2: guy out there. 615 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: He's running to the endo. 616 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: It don't that's big time. Oh yeah. 617 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 1: So I kind of broke this up into two categories. 618 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: You guys have touched on the ones that I feel 619 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: like can impact this postseason. I also have an eye 620 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: towards next season. This Sunday and the name that I'm 621 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: thinking of his former first round pick, Emmanuel Forbes, because 622 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: not that you can have a one game audition, but 623 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks are going to be playing full speed 624 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and so if you can leave Englewood this 625 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,919 Speaker 1: weekend having a better sense of what Forbes again, DK 626 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,120 Speaker 1: Metcalf looks like. I think that's informative. I think that's 627 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: worth something going into your offseason program. And I feel 628 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: a bit of the same way you mentioned the young corners. 629 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I think you're talking about like Josh Wallace, Charles Woods, 630 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: a couple of undrafted rookie corners, maybe Tyler Davis and 631 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: Brendon Jackson, a couple drafted members of this defense stepping 632 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: into larger rules. But as much as anything, if you 633 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: threw a dart on that waiver wire claim of Forbes. Well, 634 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: let's start to kind of see how close to the 635 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: bullseye you might have been against a team that you're 636 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna try and beat twice next year with or without. 637 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 3: Him, mister Forbes, meet Smith and Jigba. 638 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, lill JSN in the slot too, follow. 639 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: Him around as much as you can. You know, I 640 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: assume that the starters are going to play at corner 641 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 2: for a little while, right m h I hope they play. 642 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: I hope Akello keeps playing. 643 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: I hope Darius keeps playing at least for a half, 644 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: and then rotate guys in. 645 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: You can also have some guys who will have a 646 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: helmet because that's how the math works out. But they're 647 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: kind of break glass in case of emergency only type 648 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: act is. 649 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, because like you said, Seatle's going to be going 650 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 2: full speed. They're going to be trying to win. 651 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: What about these Seahawks, They got a first year head coach. 652 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: They'd like to get to ten wins. It feels like 653 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: the Rams are playing against next year's twenty twenty five Seahawks. 654 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: And also Gino Smith's pocketbook, he stands to make a 655 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: lot of money this weekend. 656 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Six million bucks, right, incentives, he's going to go. I 657 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: think ten wins is always the goal, that's the benchmark 658 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 2: of every coach. So if you're that coach, I'm sure 659 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: you're going to be putting your you know, pedal to 660 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 2: the metal trying to get there, and it sets you 661 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: up for next season. So it would be fun if 662 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 2: you could go out against one of your biggest rivals 663 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: with a backup quarterback and keep them from ten wins. 664 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,719 Speaker 2: But if I'm them, I'm definitely trying to get that 665 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: victory down here to set myself up for twenty twenty five. 666 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 4: I will say with those incentives to play for it 667 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 4: sets up a good opportunity for a lot of those 668 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: younger players or other players who are in who are 669 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 4: in small roles and maybe haven't seen as much playing time. 670 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,479 Speaker 4: Like if if you want to show what you can 671 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 4: do well an offense that's you know, not going to 672 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 4: pull any punches and try to go for everything you know, 673 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 4: and his incentives and also just with that team as 674 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 4: a whole, trying to get that tenth win. 675 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: Doesn't this Sunday make you realize how razor thin the 676 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: margin in the NFL really is I mean, what's separating 677 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: these two teams, one eliminated the other clinched is short 678 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: yardage defense, a fourth down stop in overtime, and a 679 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: thirty nine yard walk off winner. I mean, that's the 680 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: difference right now between the Seattle Sea and the Los Angeles. 681 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 4: Rams, and the strength of victory tiebreaker. 682 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: And then a fifth tiebreaker strength of victory. But even 683 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: that flips significantly if that game goes the other direction. Wow, 684 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: all right, we teased earlier. Let's finish with a few 685 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: calendar turning reflections and projections best memories of twenty twenty four. 686 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Feel free to take this in any direction, Like it 687 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: doesn't even have to be football if you had something 688 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: personal that you want tout go for. But I'm thinking 689 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: individual or collective twenty four fondest memories RAM specific. 690 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 4: I'll start with Tyler Higbee. I mean, yeah, I know 691 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 4: that's that's a pretty easy one. But you know, you 692 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: think torny ACL torn mc L meniscus off season shoulder 693 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 4: surgery like that could not have been a fun rehab experience, 694 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: especially when he brings up that some days it was 695 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: just him and and and Byron Cunningham at the facility 696 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 4: back at in thousand Oaks at CLU when there are 697 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 4: moving boxes and there's like just enough for them to 698 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 4: basically do the rehab. Like that's a that's a really 699 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 4: tough deal. So for him to not only like come 700 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 4: back from that, but score the go ahead touchdown against 701 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 4: the Jets like that, that was really special to me, 702 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 4: just seeing him triumph over that and put himself back 703 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: and sn't be a contributor for this football team. The 704 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: other thing I would say, too, is just even getting 705 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 4: more opportunities to be on the show, Like that's been 706 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 4: a lot of fun for me. I appreciate both of 707 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 4: you guys and you know, being able to do this 708 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 4: more often, and it's been a lot of fun. 709 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 3: Say Indiana Football stop, and I thought he was, you're 710 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 3: gonna give me that. 711 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 4: Specific curve ballad? Uh? 712 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 3: You know, I I guess it was. 713 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: H was it back in O t A's or mini 714 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 2: camp and we were marveling at number one Jared Verse, 715 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: that's what a first round in looks like because we 716 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: had forgotten, right, my god, this dude is huge. 717 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 3: He talks, he. 718 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 2: Looks the part, He is the part, even going back 719 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 2: to draft day when he called Fisk, Wow, this is 720 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 2: gonna be something special and then jumped to now he's 721 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 2: in the Pro Bowl. So but I do remember that 722 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: first day We're watching Fisk practice and I'm like, look 723 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: at all the grass he's tearing up. 724 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: This kid is going to be something special. He's got 725 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: eighty sacks now, uh. 726 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: And I do remember the first day, this is so funny, 727 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 2: And I said, Michael Hoyd is going to be so 728 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: good for Verse because he's going to push him. That 729 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: first day when they were battling to be first in 730 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 2: the agility drills, so Hoyt's always first. Verse walked in 731 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: front of him and Hoyt didn't move. This is gonna 732 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 2: be fun and sure enough, they're both leaders and they're 733 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: both making plays. So just that first day watching those 734 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,239 Speaker 2: three guys go at it, and then seeing where they 735 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: are now in the going into the playoffs and one's 736 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: going to the Pro Bowl. 737 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, unbelievable. 738 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: Not just the Pro Bowl. But I think we can 739 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: safely say, safely assume defensive Rookie of the Year. Now 740 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: I think he's clinched his case. We better not have 741 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: to retract that statement. So, if I'm not wrong, that 742 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: means the last two first round members of the Rams 743 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: defensive front have been defensive rookie of the year, right, Yes, 744 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald decade long gap, Jared Y Yes, and Kobe 745 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: Turner not first rounder, but I Kobe turn I'm with you, yes, 746 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: let me see. I want to mention Kyron he did it, 747 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: ye first, you guys got it, Higbee, I'm with you. 748 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: I'll throw the CARDI walk off in Week three against 749 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: the Niners. There the block punt against Buffalo and Pokus 750 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: toadrag swag against the Buffalo. Those are two of my 751 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: fonder individual moments. How about New Year's resolutions for the 752 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Rams personal? Are you guys new Year's resolutions? People? New 753 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: Year's resume because you crushed it in twenty four by 754 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: the way I did. Yeah, everyone in my life has 755 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: commented on just how physically fit you are and what 756 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: a great year you had and. 757 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: Really yeah smoking mirrors man. 758 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you put in you keep it going. 759 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 3: Resolutions for this for this football team. 760 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it, twenty twenty five resolution resolutions. 761 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 2: But I'm starting to rethink this whole not playing guys 762 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 2: in preseason stuff. 763 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 1: After eight years. 764 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Up for debate, I know, I'm just saying up for debate, 765 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: let's let's let's let's re let's reevaluate that whole situation there. 766 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to play starters next offense? Is that 767 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: what you're saying. 768 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Let's just have a conversation about it. Yeah, let's just 769 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 3: talk about billion. 770 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: Years what I have picked that. Okay, you'll have to 771 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: explain more next STU and your. 772 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,399 Speaker 4: Resolutions, keeping with continuity. 773 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: Keeping with continuity? 774 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 3: What does that mean? 775 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: So I feel like you feel like this is an 776 00:34:54,560 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: offensive line comment, well or a little bit Yeah, coaching staff, Well, 777 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: it could be both coaching staff. 778 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 4: I know, don't get me wrong. It's it's as fun 779 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 4: as it is writing about the you know, fifty to 780 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 4: seventy five percent turned over staff every obi. 781 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 782 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 4: More with the offensive line or even just the secondary, 783 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 4: but just you know, some of the lessons learned there 784 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 4: in terms of you know, the I give credit to 785 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 4: the coaching staff when you know, especially you look at 786 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 4: like the center position especially and figuring out, yeah, okay, 787 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 4: like what's going to put this team in the best 788 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,760 Speaker 4: position to win moving forward? Same same with the secondary. 789 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 4: I mean, even for as well as Kobe was playing 790 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 4: and when he got healthy, stuck with a Kello opposite 791 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: Darius at corner. So just sticking with that, which I 792 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 4: mean again, they've they've already kind of applied and learned 793 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320 Speaker 4: that lesson, it feels like. But even just keeping that 794 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 4: as a resolution for twenty twenty five I think would 795 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: be beneficial. 796 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,720 Speaker 1: So you're telling me you'd love to write the article 797 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: that Chris Shula is the next head coach of the 798 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: fill in the blank. You selfishly prefer to write the 799 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: headline Chris Shula returns for second year as. 800 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,800 Speaker 4: Selfishly prefer that it would just be a copy and 801 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: paste situation where there's no staff turnover. 802 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think I told you earlier this week. 803 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of people ask me, I'm sure 804 00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: you have to, like, is there any way you can 805 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: keep Chris Shule's name out of the headlines? Like don't 806 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: mention him? Like, guys, for all the coaches the Rams 807 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: have lost in the last eight years, the one guy 808 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: you weren't going to be able to hide within your 809 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: four walls is the guy with the last name. 810 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's no there's no who's that. 811 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: I actually didn't look any farther into the future than 812 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: just this playoff run for my New Year's resolution. Which is, 813 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: score a first quarter touchdown in all four postseason games. 814 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: Score a first quarter touchdown in all four. 815 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 3: Postseason games in all four postseason game. 816 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: That's my resolution for the twenty You have been dropping. 817 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: Bars all seasons. See these subliminal shots all four postseason games. 818 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 3: I heard you there. 819 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm asking a reprieve to save chocolate for next week, 820 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: just in case anyone is wondering. I feel like I think, 821 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,919 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to do that in front 822 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: of m JD. You want to grab me like a 823 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: chocolate pretzel or something, I'll do, Okay. I don't want 824 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,360 Speaker 1: to think anyone to think I'm dodging it, But. 825 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 3: I got a box of Seas candy coming. Yeah. 826 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: Seas is pretty mild, but right, Yeah, its depends on 827 00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 2: what you get in the box. Okay, next time. 828 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: That was because the Rams have earned the right to 829 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: clinch before Week eighteen. That'll do it for our Week 830 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: eighteen edition of Between the Horns, always presented by your 831 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 1: Southern California at Toyota Dealers. We do hope to see 832 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: you this weekend at SOFI Stadium and definitely wild Card 833 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: weekend at the Rams House. Opponents kickoff all to be determined, 834 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: but we will be here to cover at every step 835 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: of the postseason for Stu Jackson, DeMarco Farr, I'm JB Long. 836 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 1: Let's go big in twenty twenty five.