1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: M Hi, everybody, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford, sitting alongside my trusted colleague West 3 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: hod Koits for coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field. Excuse me and West. On our last show, 5 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: we kind of ran down some of the key topics 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: burning questions facing the Packers NFC North opponents here heading 7 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: into at this stage of the off season, I want 8 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: to continue that discussion in some ways, but not about 9 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: the NFC North. Some of the other opponents on the 10 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Packers schedule coming up, and this is what we're gonna do. 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: We know starting out here that the Packers will be 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: playing every team in the NFC West, So those four 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: opponents are on the schedule. I want you to pick 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: one of those opponents, the one that intrigues you the most, 15 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:04,960 Speaker 1: and then tell me what you think is the biggest 16 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: question facing that opponent. Well, first off, NFC West, it's 17 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: been interesting to watch this rivalry that the Packers have 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: had with the teams from that division. Uh really, outside 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: of the Los Angeles Rams, who now have shown that 20 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: they are a legitimate contender in the NFC, they've had 21 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: battles with the forty Niners, with the Seahawks, with the Cardinals. 22 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: The thing that's been difficult, though, is it's been tough 23 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: for one of those teams to stay on top. The 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: forty Niners did it for a couple of years. St. 25 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: Louis did it. Arizona was in contention, and now it 26 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: looks like the Rams might be that team. For me, 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: I go back to the consistency side of it, and 28 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 1: to me, the most consistent team has been the Seattle Seahawks. 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: But as you documented on your story on Packers dot 30 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Com when you were outlining some of these matchups, this 31 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: is really, I think a turning point for the Seahawks. 32 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: I almost look at it as sort of like what 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: happens after the honeymoon phases over. They've had the success, 34 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: they've won the Super Bowl, they faced adversity, and now 35 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: they have question marks there. They missed the playoffs last year. 36 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, if you look at his numbers a year ago, 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: the Agreeman Packers didn't have Aaron Rodgers for basically ten games. 38 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks had Russell Wilson the whole year, but he 39 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: wasn't able to overcome the shortcoming to their offensive line, 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: the defense that eroded in some ways due to injuries 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: John Schneider and Pete Carroll. I think are are at 42 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: a crossroads a little bit if they can keep this 43 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: team contending and keep them at top because with the 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: question that they have in the secondary right now is 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: that defense gets older, they have to make some really 46 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: tough calls. I think this these upcoming months to determine 47 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: what what course of action they're gonna be taking into 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: these next three or four seasons. Yeah, I agree with 49 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: you with that that term crossroads. I do think this 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: is this is a crucial offseason for the Seahawks, and 51 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: you know, very differently from the Packers, as crucial as 52 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: this offseason is for Green Bay as well. But you 53 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: mentioned the secondary, the legion of boom. You've got Cam 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Chancellor and Richard Sherman are both going to be trying 55 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: to come back from significant injuries. And and on top 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 1: of that, Earl Thomas, who I think is the youngest 57 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: of that trio, is not mistaken. Yeah, he's the guy 58 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 1: who's now talking about maybe holding out unless he gets 59 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: a new contract or an extension, you know, some more, 60 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: some more money from the Seahawks. So you know, those 61 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: three guys, they've they've been they've been the foundation of 62 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: of that secondary. And then you say, along with Bobby 63 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: Wagner on the second level and Michael Bennett upfront, really 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: the foundation of that that top notch defense for a 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: number of years. And you just wonder, is is this 66 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: going to be the transition year where where it doesn't 67 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: quite all come back together because of the injuries, the 68 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 1: contract situations, all of that, or are John Schneider and 69 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll going to be able to hold it together 70 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: with this core of a defense and try to make 71 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: one more run. You give Snyder a lot of credit. 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: He phoned Russell Wilson. Pete Carroll developed Russell Wilson and 73 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: he became an m v P type player in this league. 74 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: But let's also be honest, Mike Russell Wilson was the 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: third round pick. And you can draw these lines where 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: you have teams that it play, have quarterbacks at under 77 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: that play undervalue, and then when they get that contract, 78 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: that's when you have to start making more difficult decisions elsewhere. 79 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: It changes everything with your salary cap. It's tough to 80 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: keep the pan together. It's tough to keep the party going, 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and I think that's what the Seahawks are currently trying 82 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 1: to work themselves through. Yeah, and when you also look 83 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: at these other NFC West teams on the Packers schedule, 84 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by both of the matchups against the 85 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: Rams and the forty Niners coming up. I think the 86 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers versus Jimmy Garoppolo green Bayed San Francisco game 87 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 1: that will be at lambeau Field sometime this fall, that 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: might be one of the best games on the home schedule. Frankly, 89 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: what Jimmy Garoppolo did coming in going five and oh 90 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: for a team that was what one and ten when 91 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: he took the starting job, Um, yeah, sorry, yeah, one 92 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: one and close enough, Yeah, close enough. But but to 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: go five and oh and then he earns the big 94 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: contract and whatnot, So a lot of excitement with San Francisco. 95 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: I think that could be a great quarterback matchup. And 96 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: then with the Rams, you know new coach Sean McVeigh 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: developing rising star at quarterback, and Jared Goff, you got 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, you got Cooper Cup, You've got some of 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: these guys on defense. Now they have some questions on 100 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: defense with some pending free agents, But as you said 101 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning, the Rams look like a team that 102 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: might be might be a contender for a while. Yeah, 103 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: and it's very quietly Mike Aaron Donald the defensive Player 104 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: of the Year in two thousand and seventeen, and for 105 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: him to do it at that position in Wade Phillips defense, 106 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, that says a lot about the production they 107 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: got out of him at defensive tackle. You do have 108 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and then obviously Sean McVeigh has been a 109 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: really good partner for him, uh in that development of 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: the offense in the San Francisco forty Niners, to me 111 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: are one of the most exciting teams going into two 112 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. It shows you how quickly the narrative 113 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: can change when you find the quarterback. I'll say this, 114 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and there's a long way to go here. Jimmy Garoppolo 115 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: now is gonna get paid really handsomely. He's gonna have 116 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: to live up to that contract. But if this works 117 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: out for the forty Niners and they found a potential 118 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: superstar here and they got him for a second round 119 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: pick in the middle of a season, John lynch Man 120 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: that might go down as one of the most savvy 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: moves any GM has made in the last ten years. 122 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,359 Speaker 1: Could end up being a tremendous steel tremendous Cleveland Browns 123 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: since all these different teams that needed quarterbacks the forty 124 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: went and got there's in the middle of the season. 125 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Very shrewd. Yeah, well, we've got some more opponents on 126 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: schedule to talk about. We'll get to those after the 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: breakback with more and Packers Unscripted right after this. Welcome 128 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, West 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: Hodkowits in that one in West. Continuing our discussion of 130 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: some of the Packers opponents on schedule. The other division 131 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the Packers will be matched up against the NFC North 132 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 1: as a whole will be matched up against is the 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: a f C East. Um, so there's definitely one opponent 134 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: there we need to talk about in New York too. Yeah, yeah, 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: it's the New England Patriots obviously. Um. You know, Packers 136 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: only play these teams in the a f C once 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: every four years. Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady have gone 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: head to head only once in their careers because Rogers 139 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: missed the game in two thousand ten and Foxborough. So actually, 140 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: this trip to Foxborough will be Rogers first regular season 141 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: appearance in that stadium. It's a match up everybody's going 142 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: to be looking forward to. We don't know exactly when 143 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: it is because the full schedule, the dates and times, 144 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: everything comes out in April, but um, I'm guessing this 145 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: one's gonna be in prime time? What do you think? Yeah? 146 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: It was. I kind of alluded to this an in 147 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Center in Box two weeks ago when people are asking 148 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: what our most exciting matchup is going to be in 149 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and I think it's probably gonna 150 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: end up slotting right back into that Sweeps November Monday 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Night football or Sunday Night football game. Again. Yeah, I'm 152 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: sure there'll be a lot of battling over who's going 153 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: to be able to broadcast that because, as you said, 154 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: this has been a rivalry, a battle that we haven't 155 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: seen a whole lot. And you go back to what 156 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: that game was like in two thousand fourteen here at 157 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: lambeau Field. Uh, the energy just just how the excitement 158 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: and if you correct me if I'm wrong here, but 159 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: by believe in the Packers won that game. That was 160 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots last loss the rest of the season, and 161 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: they went on to win the Super Bowl. Uh, last 162 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: year we got robbed from having Rogers versus Roethlisberger, which 163 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: is always a great matchup. Obviously, Super Bowl has been 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: contested for it, um Brady and Rogers, you don't know 165 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: how many more times you're gonna get this, depending on 166 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: how exactly this plays out. For Tom Brady, There's a 167 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: part of me too that would still love to see 168 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: this as a Super Bowl matchup. I think a lot 169 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: of people would. A lot of a lot of people 170 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: don't want to see either of these guys retire without 171 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: them going head to head in a superho be incredible. 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: And it's almost like WrestleMania a little bit. You know. 173 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: I know you're not a big wrestling fan, but you 174 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: always try to get that big matchup for the big 175 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: show of the year. That could really be special. But 176 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: first things first, being able to go, as you said, 177 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: into Gilette Stadium for the first time for in Rogers, 178 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: knowing how much of a student of the game he 179 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: is and how much he appreciates the league history. I'm 180 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: sure that's gonna be very meaningful for him. Yeah, and 181 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I'll be curious what the league decides. And I'm not 182 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: trying to jinx anybody or anything, but the fact that 183 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Rogers is coming off an injury, the fact that Tom 184 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: Brady is as old as he is, does the league 185 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: want to schedule this one earlier in the season as 186 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: the post later, because you're just taking a risk that, 187 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: you know, because of Rogers and Roethlisberger. They set that 188 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: one for Thanksgiving weekends, Sunday Night football. We're talking last 189 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: spring like that's going to be one of the greatest 190 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: matchups of the year, and then it didn't happen, you know, 191 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: so you just wonder, you know, exactly how the how 192 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the league will handle that because it is such a 193 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: rare matchup, it only happens outside of a super Bowl. 194 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: It would only happen once every four years, right, Yeah, precisely. 195 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: And it's just it's one of those things that when 196 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: you see the way that you remember Bill Belichick, how 197 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: fus ive he wasn't his praise of Mike McCarthy in fourteen, 198 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: then two coming after that, and what he said at 199 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: the the NFL owners meetings that following winter. I mean, 200 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: he just really has holds Mike McCarthy in a very 201 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: high regard. And to see those two guys kind of 202 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: match what's two will be pretty neat to watch. Yeah, 203 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: the other team in the a f C East that 204 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about is the Buffalo Bills and 205 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: and and I want to discuss them because what I 206 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: what I mentioned in my story when I gave kind 207 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: of a quick hit rundown on all these opponents on 208 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: the schedule, is you know, are the Buffalo Hill Buffalo Hills? 209 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: Excuse me, the Buffalo Bills a one hit wonder. They 210 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: made the playoffs for the first time this century thanks 211 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: to the Andy Dalton miracle in Baltimore that that beats 212 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens and and gets Buffalo. And we all saw 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: the locker room scene where they were watching it on 214 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: TV and they knew they were in the playoffs. But 215 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: this Buffalo team is one that has a lot of questions, 216 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: particularly at the quarterback position. But yet it's it's a 217 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: it's a roster that's solid enough to to have made 218 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: the playoffs for the first time in a really long time. 219 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: This is a really intriguing team and an important offseason 220 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: for them. The dangerous thing that you outlined there with 221 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: the Bills is that they did make the playoffs. You 222 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: cannot take that away from They didn't really do any 223 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: one thing especially well, though they struggle with the past game. 224 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: Their defense was kind of middle of the road. Uh 225 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: micae Hyde had a phenomenal season for him, to give 226 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: him credit, would end up being a second team All 227 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Pro year, but they had the trade for the receiver. 228 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: It's just there was so any questions about this unit. 229 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: Shady McCoy had a fine year when he was healthy. 230 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be really interesting to see if the 231 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: Bills can build upon this. You never want to, you 232 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: know that that was really big for them to make 233 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: the playoffs. They certainly want to end that skid. But 234 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: at the same time, we've seen it history has shown 235 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: for a first year head coach it's not always the 236 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: best thing to go in and like make the playoffs 237 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: are kind of you know, sneak in. Sometimes you just 238 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: want to take it on the chin that first year, 239 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: get better and then you know, start to build from there. 240 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: The Bills, I think they're gonna have the twenty one, 241 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: twenty second overall pick. They need to get better. They 242 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: need to figure out if Tyrod Taylor's their quarterback, and 243 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: they also need to find more pieces for McDermott's defense. 244 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: But a very big step for them to make the playoffs. 245 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: The question that I have though, is whether or not 246 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to build on it. Yeah, I 247 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,719 Speaker 1: would agree with that. Let's go to another break back 248 00:11:45,760 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: with more on Packers Unscripted right after this, Welcome back 249 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 1: to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford here, West had kuits all 250 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: the way over there. West. There's a topic kind of 251 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: left over from the super Bowl that we haven't had 252 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: a chance to address yet, sort of been on my 253 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: mental list of things. So today is the day that 254 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about. And what I'm referring to 255 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: is the catch rule. We saw obviously some key replayed 256 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: decisions that were made in the Super Bowl that a 257 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 1: lot of people wondered, Hey, that wasn't necessarily quite the 258 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: way some things were called in the regular season. So 259 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: what's going on here? We heard Roger Goodell, the commissioner, 260 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: during Super Bowl week, talk about needing to once again 261 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: sort of deconstruct the entire catch rule, you know, build 262 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: it up again from from scratch so that it's something 263 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: that everybody can can count on and understand, so it 264 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: could be a big offseason in that respect. For the 265 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: rule book, Where do you think this is going? I 266 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: was sitting and I believe it was Phoenix, Arizona, beautiful 267 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: sun soaked day out in the desert at the owners meetings, 268 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: now almost three years ago, the last time that they 269 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: tried to clarify the catch roll coming out of the 270 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen season, that does Bryant catch no catch? 271 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: And I remember Michael sitting in my seat at that 272 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: hotel hearing for the first time when the NFL unveiled 273 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: these plans that they were going to clarify this rule 274 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: and the wording that is included in it. From that moment, 275 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I was thinking to myself, there is nothing clear about this. 276 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: And I think over the past three seasons, you've seen 277 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: what has happened because they didn't just deconstruct the rule 278 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: from the beginning. They tried to leave it what it 279 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: was and tried to find more ways to make it 280 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: more understandable, more more relatable. In some ways, the opposite happened. 281 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: I think it failed. So I I believe this is 282 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: the right course of action. I think you got to 283 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: start back from square one. I think you have to 284 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 1: throw throw it out. I think you need to get 285 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: your your smartest people in the league together, coaches, personnel, 286 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: competition committee, whatever it takes. I think you've got to 287 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: get them all in one room together and figure this 288 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: thing out, because I think the problem is is we've 289 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: now reached a point where common sense doesn't prevail enough anymore. 290 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: And now we when we bring up the film, when 291 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: we bring up the review and and all these things, 292 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: we are trying to find any reason why something might 293 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: not be a catch, rather than trying to look at 294 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: it as well, why might it actually be a catch? 295 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: And I think that's been the biggest issue, want to 296 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: be honest with you. As we said after Super Bowl, 297 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons why I was so 298 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: happy with the way the Super Bowl was officiated, because 299 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: I felt like common sense prevailed. Yeah, I like what 300 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: you said. They're about about the perspective on you know, 301 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: instead of always trying to find a reason for it 302 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: not to be a catch, what about looking a little 303 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: more closely at the reasons that it is a catch. 304 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: I like to use the Corey Clement touchdown in the 305 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl, if you remember that one with the former 306 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: running back from Wisconsin. I like to use that as 307 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: an example of what I think is a is a 308 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: potential positive shift in where this is going. And what 309 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: I mean by that is we saw we've seen for 310 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: the last few years now in reviewing any kind of 311 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: a catch, if the slow motion shows that the ball 312 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: is moving, that always seems to have been equated to 313 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: a loss of control by the receiver by the ball carrier. 314 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: What we saw on the Corey Clement touchdown being upheld 315 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: as a touchdown, we saw the ball moving, but they 316 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: did not say that that ball moving meant loss of control. 317 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: And I think that's where common sense is starting to prevail. 318 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: Just because the ball is moving does not mean that 319 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: that receiver has lost control of it. And I think 320 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: if we if we include that in part of the analysis, 321 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: in part of the analysis, which I think it was 322 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, I think we start to make 323 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: more sense. Yeah, I agree with because the game is 324 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: not played with stick hum not legally at least can 325 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: be pretty sticky. But but the thing is about it, Mike, 326 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: is that they're human beings playing a game that takes 327 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, unworldly ability to successfully execute. And I think 328 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to realize that if we make these 329 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: rules so complicated. I'm not saying like it's fair and 330 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: not fair. I'm just saying you're trying to appeal to viewers. Right. 331 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: This is the boredom killing business, right. I mean, people 332 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: are sitting at home. They want to be entertained. They 333 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: aren't entertained by watching a referee for two and a 334 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: half minutes talking to New York. So do what makes sense, 335 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: make it clear, make it concise. Inland, let's put our 336 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: best foot forward. No pun intended, because I think using 337 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: another example from that, the zach Ertz touchdown in in 338 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, I feel for Chris Collinsworth. It's a tough 339 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: spot to be in. But the fact that that was 340 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: even a dialogue for as long as it was, when 341 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: it was so abundantly clear that that was a football move. 342 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: He caught the ball, the ball never moved, he was 343 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: taking strides of the end zone. Okay, the ball first 344 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: touched the ground, I get that, but the ball had 345 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: already crossed the plane. So that's the part of this. 346 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: It gets back to what I said originally, where I 347 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: think people are just trying to break these things down 348 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: so much it's just creating frustration, anxiety where it doesn't 349 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 1: need to be. But I do think there's a distinction, 350 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: and this is what a lot of people are still 351 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: arguing about between the zach ERT's catching the Super Bowl 352 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: and the Jesse James won the Pittsburgh New England game. 353 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,880 Speaker 1: Because zach Ertz clearly he caught the ball with one 354 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: foot on the ground, he took two more steps towards 355 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: the end zone as he dove for the goal line. 356 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: Jesse James was the more classic example of he was 357 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: going to the ground as he was still catching the 358 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,360 Speaker 1: ball and and that that's that's a little different. It's 359 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: not like his feet were established, you know. I think 360 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: you can definitely make the argument on the Jesse James 361 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: play that there wasn't really a football move, you know. 362 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: So I do think there needs to be a distinction. 363 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: But again, this is where it gets complicated. You need 364 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: to write the rule in a certain way, but along 365 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: the same lines, you know, the two and a half 366 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: minute reviews, those have got to stop. I don't care 367 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 1: if it's a catch or a fumble or whatever the 368 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: call is that's being reviewed. They've gotta they've got to 369 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: tighten this up because because the fans at home and 370 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: the fans in the stands for that matter, are getting 371 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: a little tired. Go back to I think that's that's 372 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,680 Speaker 1: the first thing they did when they implemented it league 373 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: wide back in whatever year that was. They got to 374 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: go back to that because I think that forces them 375 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: to make a decision. And if it's not clear after 376 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: ninety seconds, Michael, then the call in the field. Yeah, 377 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: then you stick with the call in the field. 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Mike Spofford next to West, Hodkowits and 387 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: West before we go, a little bit of news to 388 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: talk about, not necessarily news about the Packers, but it 389 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: relates to the Packers a little bit. In that uh 390 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: one of those a f C East opponents on the 391 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: Packers schedule for this upcoming season, we didn't talk about 392 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: as the Miami Dolphins, and they have just franchise tagged 393 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: their top wide receiver, Jarvis Landry. And when you look 394 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: at that situation and what's going on, and we'll be 395 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: seeing more franchise tags for other players going out here, 396 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: probably over the next couple of weeks. The Packers decision 397 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: to extend Davante Adams before the regular season ended. When 398 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 1: you look at Landry and his statistics and now the 399 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: money that he would potentially be paid on this one 400 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: franchise year if he signs that tender, um, the Packers 401 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: decision is looking smarter by the day. It really is, Mike, 402 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have a you know, go back to 403 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: our daily format of unscripted next week and early next 404 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: week we'll be breaking down some of the Packers roster 405 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: and how it stands going to the NFL NFL scouting Mine. 406 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: We'll discuss that further. But the thing to understand what 407 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: the franchise tag's basically three reasons why you use it. One, 408 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: it can give you more time to negotiate an extension. 409 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: That's what the Packers did the last time they used 410 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: it in two thousand and ten with Ryan Pickett. They 411 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: tagged him and then they ended up agreeing to a 412 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: long term deal with them too. You take them because 413 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: you don't want to lose them, and then they end 414 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: up playing on that tag like Kurt Cousins did. That 415 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: can put you in some problems too, and he did 416 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: it for two years in a row, for two years 417 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: for Washington. It's the value basically the average of the 418 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: top five contracts at that position the first year, second 419 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: year goes up to the year after that. I think 420 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: is or something like that just skyrockets. The third reason 421 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: you do it is if you want to trade him. 422 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 1: I look at the situation with the Dolphins. I'm guessing 423 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to go for one. Might have to settle 424 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: for option too. And when you do it this early 425 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: in the process, I saw this on Twitter and I 426 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: thought it was such a smart analysis. You're basically not 427 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: doing it the first day. If you think you're close 428 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: to signing an extension with the guy, it's probably a 429 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: bigger sign that you're going to be going through rough negotiations. 430 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: So the Packers being able to take care of Davante 431 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: Adams with two days left in the regular season in 432 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. Not only did that allow them to 433 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: spread out that signing bonus, it prevented them from being 434 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 1: in the situation now that the Miami Dolphins find themselves 435 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: in with Jarvis Landry. Yeah, and the franchise tag thing 436 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: can get tricky because, as you said, sometimes you put 437 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: the tag on a guy, it gives you time, you 438 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: work out an extension, everything is fine. Other times it 439 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: can get pretty acrimonious. You can get pretty content. And yeah, 440 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: there there are a lot of examples. And you wonder 441 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: with with Jarvis Landry, you know, probably the single biggest 442 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: offensive threat for the Miami Dolphins. You know, just how 443 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: smoothly this might go over time And as crazy as 444 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: things unfolded in Washington, the Kirk Cousins situation was basically 445 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: the best case scenario for everybody. Cousins played under the contract, 446 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: he was happy with it. Washington ended up moving on. 447 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: But we'll see exactly what happens now with the Dolphins. Yeah, 448 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: I guess we'll have to see. But with that we'll 449 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. 450 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: Be sure to follow all of our coverage of the 451 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: team on Packers dot com. 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