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You know I saw a 19 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: story last week Boomerissias and former NFL quarterback He does 20 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: a morning show in New York City on wfa N, 21 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: which is the most popular station, one of the first 22 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: sports talk radio stations. So he does a morning show 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: it's called Boomerang GEO, and about a week ago he 24 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: got a text on his phone, and he never really 25 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: asserted this was true. He simply said, there's something sent 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: to me on my phone that says that Aaron Rodgers 27 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: was planning to sit out the Super Bowl due to 28 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: the NFL's COVID policies. And I've said this often about 29 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: my show. My show is not just opinions. Sometimes it's theories, predictions. 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm not looking for one hundred percent accurate se I'm 31 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: looking to be interesting. I listened to the entire Boomeros 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: siasin Geo ten minute segment. They never said it was true. 33 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: They offered up the information, debated it, and discussed it. 34 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: I'll throw something out here that's interesting. So the number 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: had come from the Virginia area, and that's what really 36 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: piqued my interest, not the story. Several years ago, when 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: I was ripping Aaron Rodgers, I got a text from 38 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,359 Speaker 1: a Virginia number I don't know who it was, anonymous 39 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: giving me inside information on the Packers. Some of it 40 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: was pretty darn detailed, like way more than your typical fan. 41 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: So I looked up to number. I looked up the 42 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: address of the number, and in no way did it 43 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: appear to be somebody that worked for an NFL team. 44 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: But there was too much information not to be an 45 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: inside things that had not been published yet. And so 46 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: when I hear the Aaron Rodgers story with Boomer, and 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: I go back to my stories. The only time in 48 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: my career that's happened that I get a random, anonymous 49 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: text with lots of inside information claiming that Aaron Rodgers. 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: The claim was He's leaving Green Bay. It was almost 51 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: like somebody was trying to set me up to look bad. 52 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: It was almost like somebody was setting up Boomer to 53 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: look bad. And Boomer and I both feel like the 54 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: information is a little too accurate to be I don't know, 55 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: a random fan. Is it possible that somebody in Aaron 56 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: Rodgers camp is trying to create when the criticism gets hot, 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: a little misinformation campaign which he can use to validate 58 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: the inaccuracy of the media. I mean, did anybody else 59 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: notice how harsh the criticism of Boomerissiasen was from Aaron Rodgers. 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: Ever since Aaron Rodgers won a Super Bowl, since that time, 61 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: it's been playoff disappointments. It's the deception about immunization, it's 62 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the losing to Brady, and he's taken a very anti 63 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: media narrative. Now, remember Tom Brady would not waste a 64 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: second of his life worrying about the media. It's family 65 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: in football. Aaron spends an inordinate about of time making 66 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: sure you know the media doesn't know what they're doing. 67 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Now he's angry with Boomer for misleading everybody about him. 68 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: I just think it's really weird. Why is he beating 69 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: up Boomerissiasen. Why would this silly story bother him? Why 70 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: did Boomer get that text from Virginia? Why did I 71 00:04:56,440 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: get that text from Virginia? All very suspicious to me. 72 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Aaron likes control. That's why it was so damn pissed 73 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: when they drafted Jordan Love and a year later leaked 74 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: stories to the media to bury the Packers on draft day. 75 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Regardless of what any insider in the NFL tells you, 76 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: they all came out the same day with the story 77 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: Draft Day, what a zany coincidence. I just thought the 78 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: criticism of Boomer was over the top. Boomer did not 79 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: report it like it was factual. I don't know a Siason, 80 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: but I listened to the story. I listen to the segment. 81 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: They kind of threw it up there as a thought 82 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: balloon more than anything. Sometimes the person building the most 83 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: ridiculous narratives about Aaron, is it possible it's Aaron himself. 84 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: So I got a call a day ago from a 85 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: defensive coach in the NFL that coached against the Giants. 86 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: Here's the first thing he said. He goes, the first 87 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: thing the Giants have to do is get rid of 88 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Joe Judge. It has been chaos according to his buddies 89 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: inside the Giants. The second thing he said was, this 90 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: is the worst offensive line by far in the NFL. 91 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: And he said, here's what's interesting. They release Kevin Zeitler 92 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: like a year ago. He was their second best offensive 93 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: lineman at the time, arguably their best. He goes to 94 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens and signs a three year deal worth 95 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half million dollars. So they draft 96 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas. Now, he came in the pandemic year out 97 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 1: of Georgia, and he was a little overwhelmed with no 98 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: preseason for the first year. But this coach said, Thomas 99 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: is going to be a ten year starter. Great kid 100 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: getting better. After that, he said they have four backups 101 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 1: joining him on the offensive line. That he felt it 102 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: was a roster full of backup offensive lineman and Andrew Thomas. 103 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: So he said, regardless of who they get, Gettleman never 104 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: replaced Eyler. They had an injury to a center, so 105 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 1: now they have a backup to an average offensive lineman. 106 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: Whoever takes over. They've got to get the old line fixed. 107 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: It is the lowest ranked old line in the league. 108 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: And my coaching contact said in all his years, he'd 109 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: never seen an offensive line that was less talented. Secondly, 110 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: on Joe Judge, this is what I heard from somebody 111 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: I trust. So years ago, I worked out east. As 112 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you know in Connecticut, Connecticut is overwhelmingly half the state 113 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: is Patriot fans, half the state New York Giant fans. 114 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: So over the course of time, I made friends with 115 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: a former New York Giant employee who was reasonably up 116 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: the food chain, still has connections to the team. So 117 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, once or twice a year we talk, so 118 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: I texted him at the end of the year on 119 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: Joe Judge and his takeaway was, Oh, this job is 120 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: not secure. He said, just wait for a week and 121 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I said this on the herd FS one, this isn't 122 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: a real murky area. Well, apparently the murky went sideways, 123 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: but Joe Judge was combative, was very much a my 124 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: way or the highway. Guy reportedly got into a fight 125 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: in the last twenty four hours with his offensive line coach. 126 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: I can tell you this person said that Jason Garrett 127 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: was at wits and dealing with him. So just a 128 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: lot of chaos with Joe Judge. And this is another 129 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,239 Speaker 1: Belichick assistant that proximity to greatness does an equal greatness. 130 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: Matt Patricia Joe Judge that it's another Belichick assistant that 131 00:08:54,679 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: comes into an organization very strong willed and tries to 132 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: dictate terms and simply doesn't have the respect or the 133 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: resume to back it up. That was Matt Patricia and 134 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: that's what I'm hearing Joe Judge was. But regardless of 135 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: who they hire, this is a horrific offensive line. You 136 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: start looking around the teams in the NFL playoffs. Find 137 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 1: me the battle lines in the playoffs. We always pay 138 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: attention to defenses and quarterbacks and coaches. Find me the 139 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: awful offensive lines in the playoffs. Cincinnati's is probably the weakest. 140 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: After that, most are average or above average. All right, 141 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: let's bring in Tyler Dunn, founder of Golong the newsletter, 142 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: a great source for all things Green Bay, all things 143 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: NFC North, and a lot of NFL sources. So let's 144 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: start with this. That hub arkish Aaron Rodgers situation. What's 145 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: funny about it? Tom Brady would not have reacted to it, 146 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson would not have reacted to it. I don't 147 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: think Patrick Mahomes would have reacted to it. I don't 148 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: think Justin Herbert would have reacted to it, or Lamar Jackson. 149 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 1: Aaron not only reacted to it, he was hyper aggressive. 150 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: And it's how did that land? For you? That he 151 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: went right? I mean, I don't care. I thought it 152 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: was funny. It's just it's football theater to me. But 153 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: how did that land? I mean, I'm sure all Packer 154 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: fans supported him, but for you, how did it land? Ray? 155 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: I think that we all we all heard the comment, 156 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: and it's look It kind of catches your attention when 157 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: you hear somebody who's voting for MVP use that for reason, 158 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: but you're I think a lot of quarterbacks. I think 159 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Tom Brady maybe says between five to eight words and 160 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: has no reaction to something like that. But that's what 161 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: makes Aaron Rodgers different. He cares about this stuff. He 162 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: cares about what people think about him, what they say 163 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: about him. His antenna is up twenty four. People are 164 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: telling him what's being said, what's being written, and he's 165 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: going to react. He is really an effort mode and 166 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: he said it himself. He's going to react to these things. 167 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: And uh, I think that the MVP Award Colin means 168 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 1: a great, great deal to Aaron Rodgers this season, especially, 169 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,719 Speaker 1: you know, to the narrative his career. I think very 170 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: much like kind of like Kobe Bryant was so consumed with, 171 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, the narrative his career and kind of scripting 172 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: a movie Kent bab or the Great Story I believe 173 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post a few years back on this 174 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: some athletes they cared deeply about that story arc and 175 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: how they'll be remembered. I think this MVP award more 176 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: than any other, more than maybe anything means a ton 177 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers. So yeah, when he hears that, he 178 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: knows other voters might think that way, and he's gonna 179 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: go nuclear. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. I said this 180 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 1: the other day. I said, when I take the last 181 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: two years of Aaron, which he's looked so good and 182 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: so effortless, very Marino like, it's just easy. I said, 183 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Eli Manning needed two super Bowls, especially over Belichick and Brady, 184 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: to become a Hall of Famer, Big Ben. I don't 185 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: think he's better than Aaron Rodgers if he had three. 186 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't feel like this super Bowl for Aaron. I 187 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: really don't. He's a top ten quarterback. Ever, he's maybe 188 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: a top five talent. There's an if Elway would have 189 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: won one super Bowl and that's it, I'm good. It's 190 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: still one of the most remark Marino never won any 191 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: And I've really come to terms with Aaron that I 192 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: always liked him more than Farve. I thought he was 193 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: a smarter version of what Green Bay's quarterbacks had been 194 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: Brett Farve. But I really looked today, and you know, 195 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: Aaron said after that for Super Bowl, he said, this 196 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: is it I thought it would feel bigger and it'd 197 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: be crushing to him if he didn't win it, because 198 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: I think he knows now. I think Aaron knows. Listen, 199 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: I'm a top ten guy. Ever, I'm gonna be the records, 200 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: the regular season stuff. I mean, what if Aaron loses 201 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: in the second round? Is it a crushing thing? Does 202 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it influence where he plays next year? In your opinion? Boy, 203 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 1: it was really interesting last year when I mean immediately 204 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: when they lost to Tampa Bay. What happened Colin? It 205 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: was he threw his future into the darkness instantly, like 206 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, I 207 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: don't know what we'll see. It's and he kind of 208 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: changed that narrative. It wasn't wanted for in the NFC 209 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: Championship game, it was how could Green Bay do this 210 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: to Aaron Rodgers? How could they put him in this 211 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: mental space where he might not want to be there 212 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: this year. I remember Matt Laflora is asked, Hbody's like, 213 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: dang right, I want him on this team. I wanted 214 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback. I don't really know where that's 215 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: coming from. So to answer your question, I think if 216 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: they were to lose in the NFC champion Ship Game again, 217 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: we might get something like that right where. I don't 218 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: know what he really thinks. I don't know where he 219 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: really feels. I'd be completely speculating, but I do think 220 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,479 Speaker 1: that if they do lose, it's going to be instantly, meticulously, 221 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: it's kind of somebody else's fault. You know, at this 222 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: point last year, he was doing a big story with 223 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: one of his allies out there that you know, he's 224 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: not a victim. He's not a victim, right, He's in 225 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: this this amazing mental place where he just learned to 226 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: let go. And then they lost that game to Tampa Bay, 227 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: and then what did you do? For six months? He 228 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: played the victim, and he drew the Packers, dragged the 229 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: Packers through the mud and wanted a GM fire. Didn't 230 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: exactly shoot down that report, so we have to believe that. 231 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it could go either way, right, they 232 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: win it all he's a hero, they're building statues, they're 233 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: naming the streets after him, and a Packer vans love 234 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: him forever. If they lose, it could go that direction again. 235 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: I think it's resolved sooner. I think he's right there. 236 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: It will be resolved sooner, but I do think will 237 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: probably be somebody else's fault, not his. And that being said, 238 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: I think they go to the Super Bowl and maybe 239 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: when did. I don't know who really scares you in 240 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: the NFC right now if you're Green Bay. For the 241 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: people who cover Aaron, because my guests would be, you know, 242 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: fans will always have Aaron's back, especially when he's winning. 243 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: But for the people who cover Aaron yourself included, if 244 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: you took a vote anonymously, will he be a packer 245 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: or not? What is the vibe today? I think that, man, 246 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: I think right now people would the educated guests would be, 247 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: he's back in Green Bay. I think you would take 248 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: him at his word that he's had these productive conversations 249 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: with Brian Gudikins and Matt Lafloor, and he loves Nathaniel Hackett. 250 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean they're really, really close. I would think that 251 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: if it's about football, then you obviously stay right with 252 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: the team that's around him. You know, I don't know 253 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: where you're gonna go. That's better than this and the 254 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: autonomy at the line of scrimmage to do whatever the 255 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: hell you want. He's he can do whatever he wants 256 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: in Green Bay. I'm not gonna get that elsewhere. So 257 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: I think if you add that all up, you lean 258 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: toward that. But this is somebody changes his mind. You know, 259 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: who knows whatever Aaron Rodgers is thinking right now. He 260 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: could change his mind with a win or a loss 261 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Um easily could do that. I mean, 262 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I think it's for real that up to the eleventh 263 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: hour he was seriously considering retirement into this season. I 264 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: mean when he said that at the press conference, I 265 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: don't think it was bluster. I mean everything I was hearing, 266 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: everything everybody was hearing, this was real, Like he was 267 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: okay stepping away. That could be a possibility. Maybe maybe 268 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: he retires. So I still think Holin it could go 269 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: in a million different directions, and it's it's it's up, 270 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: it's up to him. But it's also for the team. 271 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: And I think there's also a lot of money ramifications. 272 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: How in the hell are you gonna keep Aaron Rodgers 273 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: and Davanta Adams? You know, if you're if you're gonna 274 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: pay Aaron Rodgers what he's worth, pay Davanta Adams easworth, 275 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can those are cab gymnastics 276 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 1: that I don't know if anybody could pull off. What 277 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 1: worries me about Green Bay, and I've said this for 278 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: several years, they're pretty, Like if you tell me Aaron's 279 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: going to be great, they're pretty. They're not great coming 280 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: from behind, but they're pretty. The Winter Division going away. 281 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: My interpretation of that is, yeah, that's what I've seen 282 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: for the last ten years. Mostly early in the year, 283 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: I thought that there was a physicality that really impressed me. 284 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: And then I watched them play Cleveland in Chicago and 285 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, they're not putting these teams away, and these 286 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: teams are running the ball on them, and I thought 287 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: to myself, Oh, they're getting pretty again, and that they are. 288 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: They're the best watch. Kansas City and Green Bay are 289 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: just it's fun. You know, Buffalo's got that component, knockouts, 290 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: big plays. Do you are you concerned at all the 291 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: teams like the Niners or the Eagles, or if Leonard 292 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Fournett comes back, We're Sony Michelle and cam Akers that 293 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: you can run and take Aaron out of this game, 294 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: because if you look at the yards per carry aloud, Tyler, 295 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:16,199 Speaker 1: it's bad. It's like twenty eight through below a great point. 296 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: We forget about four Nette. He was playing so well 297 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: right before that, before that injury. That Colts game, it 298 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: looked like the Buccaneers We're going to run through him 299 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: thirty to forty touches the game if they wanted to. 300 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: I think it should concern Green Bay to an extent. 301 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 1: I think that, yeah, you don't want your MVP quarterback 302 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: on the sideline just neutralized over there while the team's 303 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: running and running and running. But I think Green Bay 304 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: can kind of play that game too. I think that's 305 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: what maybe makes screen Bay dangerous is you know, they 306 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: can play the shootout style if that's what it turns into. 307 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: But they can. They can play that grimy game. They 308 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: can win that twenty three to thirteen game if they 309 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: have to. They can unleash aj Dylan at all two 310 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pounds of Muscleania and Aaron Jones and 311 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: run the ball. I mean, their line has been been 312 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: beat up all season. Now they're getting David back, Tierry back. 313 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: I feel like this Packers team, unlike pass Packer teams, 314 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: can a run the ball, you know, with a with 315 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: a mashing back and bag additions. You know, the one 316 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: year that Eddie Lacy was in shape and was doing that, 317 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: they had the crazy NFC Championship loss to Seattle. So 318 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: other than that, they haven't had a back. They had 319 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: had a rushing offense like this with Aaron Rodgers. And 320 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: defensively they're opportunistic and it's it's always tricky to play 321 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: that way, you know, to rely on turnovers. But man 322 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: Rasul Douglas, it's always somebody demandre campbell Um, Sean Gary, 323 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: somebody knew every week making a big, big play. There's 324 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: there's a gnarly components to this defense. They just haven't 325 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: seen there come January. So I feel like they can 326 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: win that type of game that you're describing. Still, finally 327 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: Green Bay gets to buy Who should they be worried 328 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: about as a potential first round playoff upon it or 329 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: a first opponent for them? Who would worry you? Who? 330 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: Do you think deep down they're a little skinnish about 331 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: love the question. I think it's San Francisco and it's 332 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: weird to say. I mean, this is a team that God, 333 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: I was banging the drum for Trey Lance. It's like, Man, 334 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: if you're gonna give away all these first for somebody 335 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: just just play him, move on. But then you watch 336 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: a game like that tonight and Jimmy Garoppolo through two picks, 337 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: but man through a thumb injury, he made some big throws. 338 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: He does just enough. He's got playmakers all over the place. 339 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is unlike anything in the NFL with what 340 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: he can do. Elijah Mitchell as a rookie back, maybe 341 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: one of the more underrated players in the league. George 342 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: gets get all the best tight end. They're gonna get 343 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: Tren Williams back. The defense is loaded and made a 344 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: ton of plays. They're not gonna be afraid. I mean 345 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be afraid to go to lambeau Field 346 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: and grime it up and force a couple of turnovers 347 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: and run the ball like you said, to keep Aaron 348 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: Rodgers off the field. They really should have beat Green 349 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: Bay earlier in the season. They gave that one away 350 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: that scared me if I was Green Bay that they 351 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: snuck in. Yeah, I agree, And I also think you 352 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: could put an occasional package in with Trey Lance, which 353 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: you haven't done a ton of in the regular season. 354 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, you're playing with house money. Green Bay 355 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: struggles against the run. You put in a red zone 356 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: player to a couple of sets a series with Trey Lance, 357 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: catch the Packers off guard. The Packers again are going 358 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: to sit out for two weeks. They'll be a little rustier. 359 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: I think that's a fascinating matchup when you face these teams, 360 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: especially if San Francisco goes into the playoffs. 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He's Mike Silver, co author of the 392 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: book All Things Possible, which became the basis for the 393 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: movie American Underdog about Kurt Warner. That's fantastic, wrote the 394 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 1: book years ago. And what do you know, Well, it 395 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: takes Hollywood a long time to do anything. Let's be honest, 396 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: it does. I mean, every time you hear about a movie, 397 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I picked that thing thirteen times. Everybody 398 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: said no, people told Silver no for years, and finally 399 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: he demanded the movie get made. All right, I want 400 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: to start with this. Ideally, GM coach players all get along. 401 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: But when you watch the Michael Jordan documentary, it's not 402 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: a necessity. Shack Kobe, Phil Jackson, it's not a necessity, 403 00:23:54,200 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: KD Draymond Kerr, It's not a necessity. Baalich Brady never 404 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: had dinner. I don't buy that. Chris Greer and Brian 405 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: Flores didn't get along. My takeaway is it doesn't matter. 406 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: He won eight of nine with twa or by the way, 407 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: so I'll throw my theory and you can shoot it 408 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: down or agree. I don't care. So Brian Flores gets 409 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: the job. He immediately by the end of year one, 410 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: the defense and special teams are excellent. All he needs 411 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: draft the right quarterback and give me a competent offensive line. 412 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: Greer fails at both stories, out that Jason lack and 413 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: reported Flores wanted Herbert and it wasn't a secret the 414 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: GM wanted I disagree with all of it. Okay, So 415 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I'm defending Flores saying he doesn't 416 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: have to get along with Greer. I don't care. If 417 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: if I wanted Herbert and the GM wanted two and 418 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: I fixed a defense and special teams immediately, I would 419 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: be bitter. I would I would agree if I believed 420 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: that Flores wanted Herbert. So I'll tell you what I 421 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: have to learn. And you know, first of all, Brian 422 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: Flores is his own guy. He's not a Bill Belichick clone. 423 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,880 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of Bill Belichick in the way 424 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: that he was trying to do it. And that works. 425 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: If you have Tom Brady, it works. If you have 426 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: a track record like Bill Belichick does. It has not 427 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: gone well for the most part ever in any building 428 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: or very rarely other than Belichick. If you can't get 429 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: along with Chris Greer, By the way, I'm saying that 430 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: to you, he's probably the GM in the league. Who's 431 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: the easiest person as a person to get along with. 432 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: So this is what I believe, and it's a weird 433 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: organization with different power dynamics and an owner who's strong 434 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: but not always there. I think that Brian Flores did 435 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: a really good coaching job, and in a league where 436 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 1: minority hiring is shameful, it's super disheartening to see a 437 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: guy who did that well be let go abruptly. I 438 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: believe that Brian Flores had the power in that building 439 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: and that if he wanted Justin Herbert, there's zero chance 440 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert would not be a Miami Dolphin. So I 441 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: don't I think he wanted to it and got to it, 442 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: which doesn't make him I wouldn't fire Brian Flores for that. 443 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: You know, people make mistakes. That's a regrettable one, obviously 444 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: if it's Brian Flores. But I think that Brian Flores 445 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: wanted to Shaun Watson, and I think Brian Flores wanted 446 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: to a then wanted to Shaun Watson, and Chris Greer, 447 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: for the most part, was doing for Brian Flores what 448 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: he thought Brian Flores wanted. Doesn't mean Chris Greer hasn't 449 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: made evaluation mistakes. But I don't think he was big 450 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: timing him. I think or has had the power. And 451 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: so you know a lot of times when people get 452 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: let go and we don't understand it. And again I 453 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to discount the overtones 454 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: on the minority hiring thing, because it really stings in 455 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: this case. But let's compare it to say John Dorsey 456 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: is out abruptly in Kansas City. What didn't he help 457 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: Andy Reid build that thing? How is John Dorsey? Usually 458 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: when I dig in on those things, the answer comes 459 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 1: down to the person who got let go did a 460 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: very bad job of managing his relationship with the owner. 461 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: And and I would say Adam Gaze did that too 462 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 1: in Miami. At some point, you don't have to be 463 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: best friends with the owner. You don't have to be 464 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: aligned on everything with the owner, but you have to 465 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: understand what the owner expects and needs relationship wise, even 466 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: if there are go betweens. And I think if you 467 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: come in acting like hey, I'm Bill Belichick, and you know, 468 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm just consumed with power and I'm not gonna get 469 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: along to get along. I'm just gonna do what I 470 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: do and people can like it or not, and the 471 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: only thing that matters is if I win, you can 472 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: get alienated from certain owners, and that's what I believe happened. 473 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: I think Brian Flores is out because he had the 474 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: power and didn't manage that situation well. Still regrettable from 475 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: a minority hiring standpoint, because he did a very good 476 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: job as a coach. So this is an interesting time 477 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,719 Speaker 1: of the year. Jim Harbaugh called me the other day. 478 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: I love it and and his dad had watched the 479 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: show and told Jimmy should call me and thank him 480 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: for nice things I said, So we talked about five minutes. Nice. 481 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: He's got a really cool set up at Michigan. His 482 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: dad lives next door, so the kids leave the house, 483 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: go right next door to Grandpa's. Perfect. It's like he's 484 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: got the psych Obama on the White House with Michelle's mom. 485 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: That's brilliant. So Michigan's rolling. Probably won't beat Ohio State 486 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: next year, but he's got Kade McNamara, the recruiting's rolling, 487 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: and he's got a really good young staff. If he 488 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: left Michigan's in a tight spot the hiring cycle is done, 489 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 1: he's got some leverage I look at all these jobs, 490 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: they've all got major red flags. Raiders owner, Raiders, GM, 491 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: Denver doesn't have a quarterback. Although I love their GM 492 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and I love their roster. Yeah, I think I think 493 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Justin Fields is good. He was bad a lot and 494 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: heard a lot. What are you hearing on hardball? This 495 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: is where I lean into you. You know, Jim, you 496 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: covered him when I talked to him for five minutes. 497 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: I didn't want to ask him straight out. I just 498 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: tried to listen to his tone. Boy, the Michigan situation, 499 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: Mike is good. He's his wife's happy, his kids are happy. 500 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: I just don't think there's the Remember a few years ago, 501 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy gets Dallas. That's a great job. Lafloor gets Green Bay. 502 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: That's a great job. Brandon Staley gets Justin Herbert. That's 503 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: a great job. Yeah. I don't think any of these 504 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: are a jobs. Okay, so a lot to unpack. Number one, 505 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: he loves his alma mater, as he should, and there 506 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: is an emotional pull there and as he said, some 507 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: lifestyle things. Number two. Yeah, maybe they leaned on him 508 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: a little bit a year ago when they thought they 509 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: had some leverage and Jim's a competitive guy, and maybe 510 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: he's just leaning back and he'll extract his leverage revenge 511 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: which is a strong word, and they'll give him a 512 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: little more money or whatever security, and it'll it'll feel different. 513 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: The reason Jim Harbaugh is different from you and me, 514 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: and we are people who have a strong sense of 515 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: self collectively and individually. Yeah, Jim Harbaugh doesn't believe any 516 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: job's a bad job because his sense of self is 517 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: even stronger. He's like, I don't care all win. He 518 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: I think he believes he could go to any job 519 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: anywhere and effect change and win. And that's whether whether 520 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: you believe that or not. As an outsider, the thing 521 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: that makes Jim harbat Jim Harbaugh is that thing. So 522 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: I think in his heart, he's played in the NFL 523 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: for a long time. I think most football people, if 524 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: they're being honest, college is cool. There's an emotional attachment. 525 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: It's not the same. It's not the highest level. The 526 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: highest level of football is clearly the NFL, and it's 527 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: not close. And for people who are that competitive and 528 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: have that kind of sense of self deep inside. Look, 529 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 1: he went to the NFL during a lockout year. He 530 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: took a losing team and got them to the brink 531 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. Then he got them to the 532 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: brink of a championship. Then a Richard Sherman tip away 533 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: from another shot at it. He lost to his brother 534 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: He lost the Super Bowl, a close super Bowl to 535 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: his brothers. So, knowing what I know about Jim Harbaugh, yes, 536 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: all of that may be overridden by pragmatics or his 537 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: love for his alma mater, It's all understandable. I just 538 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: think deep inside he wants to go back to the 539 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: biggest stage and finish what he almost did last time. 540 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: It's such an interesting guy, all right. I bring in 541 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: my buddy Chad Milman, sharp or square. I make my picks. 542 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: He takes them and pokes and prods them. All right, 543 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Eagles plus eight and a half 544 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: at the Buccaneers. Now here's the one thing that worries me. 545 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: The Bucks are great red zone offense. They get touchdowns, 546 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: not field goals. But I think the Eagles, Jalen Hurts 547 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: is now healthy, are a handful to play. This is 548 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 1: not your typical run offense. They lead the NFL and 549 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 1: big plays, by the way, big plays being ten yard 550 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: plus runs and twenty yard plus passes. Tampa is beat up. 551 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: They are a beat up football team, and the Eagles 552 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: all year long, even against good defenses, have been bizarrely productive. 553 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: I think Tampa wins, but an offense that was completely 554 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: limited in the first round last year gave them trouble. 555 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: I think the Eagles keep it close. Weather's a non factor. 556 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: The healthier team is Philadelphia. I worry about Brady getting 557 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: in the ren zone. He gets sevens not threes, and 558 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: that could push the line higher and push the score higher. 559 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: But I would take the Eagles sharper square, very sharp. Again. 560 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: Another huge pro is Joe's game. Sixty three percent of 561 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 1: the bets on the Bucks fifty eight percent of the 562 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: money on the Eagles. That tells you professionals are coming 563 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: in on the Eagles. This line opened at ten, it 564 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: got that down to eight and a half. Bookmakers saw 565 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: that was sort of the hard stop for professionals, better 566 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: for professional betters. When it got to eight and a half, 567 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: it went back up to nine and then went back 568 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: down to eight and a half. One thing I will 569 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: correct you on weather is expected to be a factor. 570 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: It could be very windy, there could be a thunderstorms, 571 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: The reason the professional betters like this game is they 572 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: do expect it to be relatively low scoring. They do 573 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: expect the Eagles to be pretty conservative with Jalen Hurtz 574 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: in his first NFL playoff game, and they've just proven 575 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: like they're going to run the ball. That's what they 576 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: like to do. And I think a lot of guys 577 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: are saying, not only do we like the Eagles in 578 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: the game, we're also going to bet the Eagles in 579 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 1: the first half because we've seen the Eagles play a 580 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: very tempo a lot of games for the Eagles zero points, 581 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: three point seven points, So take a little taste on 582 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: the Eagles in the first half too. All right, this 583 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,479 Speaker 1: is the strangest one. I love the Niners all week, 584 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: all week. Now everybody loves the Niners. It's no longer 585 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: an upset. So at three, I would probably take Dallas 586 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: Sharper square square. So this was also on the radio today. 587 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: You talked about you want to bet against Bob from Sheboygan, right, 588 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: using the forty nine Ers as your example. Number one. 589 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:35,319 Speaker 1: As a Chicago in northern Chicago and north shore of 590 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 1: Chicago in the suburbs, I've been a Sheboygan a million times. 591 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: It's beautiful in Cheboygan. You spend time, you can't get 592 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: a good bowl of soup. And Sheboygan, I've been told, 593 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: oh my god, you kidding me. It's like the soup 594 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: capital of the Midwest. Of course you can get a 595 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: good bowl of soup. And Sheboygan, what are you going 596 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: to do in Wisconsin other than get a good bowl 597 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: of soup? My wife, but we live to New York. 598 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: We first started living in New York. I used to 599 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: always say to her, I want to move back to Chicago. 600 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: I want to move back to Chicago. She looks at 601 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: me and she goes listen, divide the option between going 602 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: to the Hampton's for the summer or going to Sheboygan, 603 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: Why would I go back to Chicago? Jokes on her 604 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: becas I moved her to central Connecticut. Now we can't 605 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: get anywhere. But Sheboygan's great Bob from Sheboygan is going 606 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 1: to be on the Cowboys, the Pros are going to 607 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: be on the Niners. And you know you talked about 608 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,319 Speaker 1: this with Cosell, right, you talked with Greg Cosell. You 609 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: talked about Greg Kittle being able to get open over 610 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: the middle George about about George Kittle. Right, you talked 611 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 1: about that about Deebo Samuel getting open, right, Like, this 612 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: is where the forty nine ers will have an advantage. 613 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: And then on defense, they can control the line scrimmage 614 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 1: because their rushed events is so good, and they can 615 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: make the Cowboys one dimensional, which is not great when 616 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott has not been able to function very well 617 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: as a running back and Dak has struggled as a quarterback. 618 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: So it's a coaching mitch match, miss match. I think 619 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: it's a personnel in this match. I think the wise guys, 620 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,880 Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers. What's scaring them is the 621 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: very first thing you said. The wise guys don't like 622 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: to be with public dogs, and the forty nine Ers 623 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: are becoming a public dog. They are the team that 624 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 1: everybody thinks is going to cover against the Cowboys or 625 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 1: potentially beat the Cowboys. So that's giving them a little 626 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: bit of pause. But they're on the Niners Steelers plus 627 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: twelve and a half at the Chiefs. I've been saying 628 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: Kansas City's offense is uneven Pittsburgh bill, I'm not sure 629 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: how they can move the ball. Mike Tomlin's a great 630 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: underdog coach. But I've got to tell you, Pittsburgh is 631 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: painful offensively, and I have a feeling the Chiefs went 632 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: in a route. I know it's square, right, It's a 633 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: little bit square, but not totally square, Like this is 634 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: one where you're not going to get a consensus. The 635 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: line has moved down a little bit, went from about 636 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half to twelve and a half. So 637 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, the professionals came in on the Steelers. But 638 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: everything you said is why guys are thinking about the Chiefs. 639 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: And I mentioned sort of the advantage and what the 640 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: metrics and the analytics say or the stats say about 641 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: underdogs in the playoffs that are of less than a 642 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: touchdown more than a touchdown, they tend to cover. The 643 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: favorites tend to cover. And this is a spot where 644 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: the Chiefs of twelve and a half, we know it's 645 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: a rarah Mike Tomlin situation. His defense is going to 646 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,400 Speaker 1: have to carry the cheerleading for this team. And I 647 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 1: do think like the one thing they do really well 648 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: is rush the passer. Patrick Mahomes knows how to handle 649 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: the rush. This Chiefs team could score fourteen points and 650 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: still cover the spread. Because the Steelers might not be 651 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: able to score at all. Big Ben. In the last 652 00:38:55,160 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 1: three games, he was only his average completion for seven 653 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: point two year. I know his yards per a tenth 654 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: were four. Like he just looks washed. I think like 655 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: he's holding it together with duct tape. Right now, go 656 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: to the YouTube page, look up the Volume Sports. 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