1 00:00:04,404 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:19,404 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,084 --> 00:00:25,244 Speaker 2: The Injurie Dada is not there. 4 00:00:25,484 --> 00:00:27,204 Speaker 3: The only information that we know is the guys who 5 00:00:27,324 --> 00:00:29,924 Speaker 3: run it, and they say it's less dangerous than a 6 00:00:29,924 --> 00:00:32,004 Speaker 3: standard running play up the middle that they would have 7 00:00:32,044 --> 00:00:34,364 Speaker 3: to run instead. In other words, the Eagles weren't allowed 8 00:00:34,364 --> 00:00:36,244 Speaker 3: to do it and Jalen Hurts has to turn around 9 00:00:36,244 --> 00:00:39,204 Speaker 3: and hand it to Saquon. That play presents more of 10 00:00:39,244 --> 00:00:42,524 Speaker 3: an injury risk than the tush push. So listen, I 11 00:00:42,564 --> 00:00:45,644 Speaker 3: love Sean McDermott. Whatever version of there running they ain't working. 12 00:00:45,684 --> 00:00:46,804 Speaker 3: If that would have worked, they would have been in 13 00:00:46,804 --> 00:00:49,204 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year. They tried it. So don't 14 00:00:49,204 --> 00:00:51,284 Speaker 3: tell me you can't stop it. Because Shawn's very team 15 00:00:51,404 --> 00:00:55,164 Speaker 3: was stopped more than once by the AFC champion, the Chiefs. 16 00:00:55,204 --> 00:00:56,244 Speaker 2: It can be stopped. 17 00:00:56,404 --> 00:00:59,404 Speaker 3: The reason I don't, I mean I almost I want 18 00:00:59,444 --> 00:01:01,004 Speaker 3: to use the word outrage. I think I will be 19 00:01:01,044 --> 00:01:03,604 Speaker 3: outrage of this as banned. I am so strongly against 20 00:01:03,644 --> 00:01:07,724 Speaker 3: banning it because I don't see any argument to ban it. 21 00:01:07,724 --> 00:01:10,844 Speaker 3: I've addressed this for months. What are you saying? It's 22 00:01:10,844 --> 00:01:12,244 Speaker 3: not football? Yes it is. 23 00:01:12,284 --> 00:01:15,484 Speaker 2: That's the very basis of football. You push, we push. 24 00:01:15,604 --> 00:01:18,764 Speaker 2: Who pushes harder in anything? That is the callback to 25 00:01:18,804 --> 00:01:19,924 Speaker 2: when football was football. 26 00:01:19,964 --> 00:01:22,204 Speaker 3: I love it, and don't tell me the injuries and 27 00:01:22,204 --> 00:01:24,764 Speaker 3: don't tell me it's ugly, Like I don't see the case. 28 00:01:25,084 --> 00:01:26,644 Speaker 3: So if you do it, because we'd be like we 29 00:01:26,724 --> 00:01:29,484 Speaker 3: don't like it, that sucks and so does your argument. 30 00:01:29,524 --> 00:01:30,924 Speaker 2: I hope they never been it. I love it. 31 00:01:31,884 --> 00:01:34,964 Speaker 3: Can we bring back dunks over the crossbar to celebrate touchdowns? 32 00:01:35,324 --> 00:01:36,204 Speaker 2: This is what I want. 33 00:01:36,564 --> 00:01:40,924 Speaker 3: There was a wonderful time when Tony Gonzalez at al 34 00:01:41,244 --> 00:01:42,924 Speaker 3: would score a touchdown. 35 00:01:42,564 --> 00:01:44,604 Speaker 2: And elevate what's up, Dallas Clark. 36 00:01:44,484 --> 00:01:46,244 Speaker 3: And they would dunk over the crossbar and it was 37 00:01:46,244 --> 00:01:49,004 Speaker 3: a very cool celebration and he was a show of athleticism. 38 00:01:49,204 --> 00:01:51,124 Speaker 3: And Vernon Davis would do it and he got stuff. 39 00:01:51,164 --> 00:01:51,884 Speaker 2: But that's okay. 40 00:01:52,284 --> 00:01:55,724 Speaker 3: And then it all changed when that man Jimmy Graham 41 00:01:55,804 --> 00:01:59,164 Speaker 3: was playing in a Saints versus Falcons game. He went 42 00:01:59,244 --> 00:02:02,284 Speaker 3: up and he held on the crossbar and damn broke 43 00:02:02,404 --> 00:02:05,164 Speaker 3: the thing. I haven't previewed this, but let's see. So 44 00:02:05,244 --> 00:02:08,244 Speaker 3: Jimmy scores two handed. Oh no, all right, If you 45 00:02:08,284 --> 00:02:11,044 Speaker 3: don't remember, this is twenty thirteen. He brings the thing 46 00:02:11,084 --> 00:02:14,244 Speaker 3: almost down like students celebrating the victory. And they had 47 00:02:14,244 --> 00:02:15,804 Speaker 3: this long delay in the game where they had to 48 00:02:15,804 --> 00:02:17,204 Speaker 3: fix it and they had to get a level, and 49 00:02:17,204 --> 00:02:18,764 Speaker 3: there was like this whole deal and it was there 50 00:02:18,844 --> 00:02:20,244 Speaker 3: to go to home depot. And it's funny because the 51 00:02:20,244 --> 00:02:22,644 Speaker 3: owner of the Falcons started at home depot. My point 52 00:02:22,684 --> 00:02:24,724 Speaker 3: is that was a tough night for the crossbar dunks. 53 00:02:24,764 --> 00:02:26,244 Speaker 3: I think we could bring him back. And if you 54 00:02:26,244 --> 00:02:28,524 Speaker 3: want to penalize for hanging on the rim so to speak, 55 00:02:28,564 --> 00:02:30,764 Speaker 3: that's fine, but you're not allowed to do it ever 56 00:02:30,804 --> 00:02:33,084 Speaker 3: since then. And if you do it now, you get 57 00:02:33,124 --> 00:02:35,444 Speaker 3: flagged if you touch the bar or something. It would 58 00:02:35,444 --> 00:02:37,484 Speaker 3: always fire you up when seeing a guy do this. 59 00:02:37,564 --> 00:02:39,884 Speaker 3: And I really think that Tony Gonzalez rule or the 60 00:02:39,924 --> 00:02:43,084 Speaker 3: Jimmy Grahm rule should be revoked. You keep the tushbush, 61 00:02:43,164 --> 00:02:46,124 Speaker 3: you bring back the Dunks. God knows basketball could use 62 00:02:46,124 --> 00:02:47,964 Speaker 3: a little help from the NFL right now, So let's 63 00:02:48,004 --> 00:02:48,284 Speaker 3: do it. 64 00:02:48,324 --> 00:02:52,804 Speaker 2: Bring it back. Are you there, football gods? It's me, Kirk. 65 00:02:53,044 --> 00:02:55,124 Speaker 2: That's what I want for him. It's the perfect pole. 66 00:02:55,564 --> 00:02:58,404 Speaker 3: It is the question right now about what should I 67 00:02:58,444 --> 00:03:01,084 Speaker 3: do to end this career the football gods. 68 00:03:01,084 --> 00:03:03,684 Speaker 2: Should I really move to Cleveland if they want a 69 00:03:03,724 --> 00:03:05,684 Speaker 2: trade for me? Should I be a backup? 70 00:03:05,724 --> 00:03:08,044 Speaker 3: Still making these checks like a Benda says to a 71 00:03:08,124 --> 00:03:11,244 Speaker 3: second year guy? Should I retire? What should I do? 72 00:03:11,724 --> 00:03:15,564 Speaker 3: He's had such a fascinating career all over the place. Remember, 73 00:03:15,804 --> 00:03:18,324 Speaker 3: the origin story of this movie is not only him 74 00:03:18,324 --> 00:03:20,684 Speaker 3: being drafted by Washington. He was drafted in the same 75 00:03:20,764 --> 00:03:24,484 Speaker 3: class as RG three. That's very strange. And RG three 76 00:03:24,604 --> 00:03:27,324 Speaker 3: was the prince that was promised. And then Cousins takes 77 00:03:27,364 --> 00:03:29,244 Speaker 3: over and now here we are and he's behind another 78 00:03:29,284 --> 00:03:32,364 Speaker 3: young player. But it's always fascinating with him. And the 79 00:03:32,444 --> 00:03:34,684 Speaker 3: true crime will be when he finally retires that we 80 00:03:34,684 --> 00:03:36,644 Speaker 3: don't get to talk about him anymore. He needs a 81 00:03:36,644 --> 00:03:39,084 Speaker 3: little help from the football gods. Now it's me Kirk, 82 00:03:39,124 --> 00:03:42,284 Speaker 3: that's my title. I know I'm not the only person 83 00:03:42,324 --> 00:03:45,004 Speaker 3: who feels a little bit scorirmy when I hear the 84 00:03:45,204 --> 00:03:50,044 Speaker 3: power broker is negotiating directly with the talent. This is 85 00:03:50,084 --> 00:03:52,364 Speaker 3: why the agent comes up. This is why Jerry Jones 86 00:03:52,364 --> 00:03:55,684 Speaker 3: says that I'm paraphrasing. I have experience of dealing directly 87 00:03:55,724 --> 00:03:59,644 Speaker 3: with players. There's a reason you have a professional representing you, 88 00:03:59,764 --> 00:04:02,284 Speaker 3: and listen, let's just be candid all of us here 89 00:04:02,324 --> 00:04:05,244 Speaker 3: on the show. We have agents and represents, and that's 90 00:04:05,284 --> 00:04:06,484 Speaker 3: just an industry standard. 91 00:04:06,844 --> 00:04:08,404 Speaker 2: And I only speak for myself. 92 00:04:08,444 --> 00:04:11,404 Speaker 3: I've had little moments throughout my career where someone has said, 93 00:04:11,724 --> 00:04:15,564 Speaker 3: let's talk about money or agreements or whatever, and you're like, oh, 94 00:04:15,564 --> 00:04:18,124 Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, I have an employee who I'm 95 00:04:18,204 --> 00:04:19,684 Speaker 3: paying to do this explicitly. 96 00:04:19,724 --> 00:04:21,004 Speaker 2: It's like if you're watching. 97 00:04:20,684 --> 00:04:24,044 Speaker 3: TV and someone sits down in the interrogation room and 98 00:04:24,084 --> 00:04:26,004 Speaker 3: they start asking the questions like, oh, oh, I need 99 00:04:26,004 --> 00:04:29,124 Speaker 3: a lawyer sitting here. There is a way for people 100 00:04:29,164 --> 00:04:31,084 Speaker 3: at times, and I'm not saying this what Jerry's doing, 101 00:04:31,324 --> 00:04:32,804 Speaker 3: who try to get a little bit more of a 102 00:04:32,884 --> 00:04:35,044 Speaker 3: deal or try to get a little something more advantage 103 00:04:35,204 --> 00:04:38,604 Speaker 3: by appealing to the relationship that they have with that person. 104 00:04:38,964 --> 00:04:41,244 Speaker 2: Let's not deal with agents and lawyer. Let's just you 105 00:04:41,324 --> 00:04:42,444 Speaker 2: and me. Let's just talk. 106 00:04:42,564 --> 00:04:45,524 Speaker 3: No, we're not talking about our kids or baseball. This 107 00:04:45,644 --> 00:04:48,404 Speaker 3: is my life and my future. Go to the professional. 108 00:04:48,484 --> 00:04:50,644 Speaker 3: And I think that's what Micah is saying, and I 109 00:04:50,684 --> 00:04:52,404 Speaker 3: in a tiny way relate. 110 00:04:52,124 --> 00:04:53,884 Speaker 2: To him, and I completely respect the move. 111 00:04:54,884 --> 00:04:56,844 Speaker 3: I'm just ready to talk about this as a reality, 112 00:04:56,964 --> 00:04:59,924 Speaker 3: a reality of that Rogers at forty one years old, 113 00:04:59,964 --> 00:05:02,804 Speaker 3: season twenty one, is now going to enter a scenario 114 00:05:02,804 --> 00:05:06,084 Speaker 3: in which he plays Lamar Jackson twice, Joe Burrow twice, 115 00:05:06,364 --> 00:05:07,564 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett twice. 116 00:05:07,644 --> 00:05:09,724 Speaker 2: Have you looked at the Steelers schedule next year? Who 117 00:05:09,764 --> 00:05:10,124 Speaker 2: they play? 118 00:05:10,324 --> 00:05:13,924 Speaker 3: They play the Bills, the Lions, the Chargers, and yes, 119 00:05:14,204 --> 00:05:17,204 Speaker 3: they played the Packers. What I just listed is ten 120 00:05:17,244 --> 00:05:20,604 Speaker 3: games of all out of seventeen. That's a brutal, brutal 121 00:05:20,684 --> 00:05:24,044 Speaker 3: slate for this guy, and probably. 122 00:05:23,644 --> 00:05:24,364 Speaker 2: It will work out. 123 00:05:24,444 --> 00:05:26,524 Speaker 3: I think the Steelers almost always win. I would just 124 00:05:26,564 --> 00:05:29,404 Speaker 3: say this, if you look at the last maybe dozen 125 00:05:29,524 --> 00:05:32,084 Speaker 3: or so NFL quarterbacks who've entered the Hall of Fame, 126 00:05:32,524 --> 00:05:35,764 Speaker 3: you really struggle to find some team at the end 127 00:05:35,764 --> 00:05:37,884 Speaker 3: of their career that they joined for a hot second 128 00:05:37,924 --> 00:05:40,604 Speaker 3: and it didn't work out. Even when they do it, 129 00:05:40,604 --> 00:05:41,764 Speaker 3: it's far from the Vikings. 130 00:05:41,764 --> 00:05:43,324 Speaker 2: It's Peyton on Denver. Really. 131 00:05:43,364 --> 00:05:45,724 Speaker 3: The only exception would be Warren Moon, who was very 132 00:05:45,764 --> 00:05:48,244 Speaker 3: strangely a Chief at the end. But these legends, when 133 00:05:48,244 --> 00:05:51,484 Speaker 3: they try a final project, it usually works. 134 00:05:51,524 --> 00:05:53,084 Speaker 2: Even Montana and the Chiefs worked. 135 00:05:53,084 --> 00:05:55,084 Speaker 3: You can come up with a bunch of examples for 136 00:05:55,204 --> 00:05:57,524 Speaker 3: Rogers to go to Pittsburgh and for them to go 137 00:05:57,684 --> 00:05:59,684 Speaker 3: let's say seven to ten and miss the playoffs and 138 00:05:59,684 --> 00:06:02,684 Speaker 3: then he retires. It doesn't happen to guys of his ilk. 139 00:06:02,964 --> 00:06:06,284 Speaker 3: The schedule is brutal, really really brutal. And this is 140 00:06:06,324 --> 00:06:08,604 Speaker 3: this not last year where it's like, well, the Patriots 141 00:06:08,644 --> 00:06:11,564 Speaker 3: kind of sucking a rebuilding, the Dolphins can't figure it out, 142 00:06:11,604 --> 00:06:13,964 Speaker 3: and the Bills are the Bills. This is the AFC 143 00:06:14,044 --> 00:06:17,124 Speaker 3: North like it's it feels like a different weight class 144 00:06:17,124 --> 00:06:17,804 Speaker 3: in the fight game. 145 00:06:17,884 --> 00:06:18,964 Speaker 2: This is what he's jumping in. 146 00:06:19,164 --> 00:06:21,644 Speaker 3: I'm not ready to talk about this speculatively anymore. I'm 147 00:06:21,644 --> 00:06:24,724 Speaker 3: ready to talk about it as reality. This is a 148 00:06:24,844 --> 00:06:29,164 Speaker 3: fullback and linebacker from the NFL. He is the meat 149 00:06:29,164 --> 00:06:34,004 Speaker 3: and potatoes of contact and collisions and physicality in football, 150 00:06:34,204 --> 00:06:37,044 Speaker 3: and he is screaming at you that he loves the 151 00:06:37,124 --> 00:06:40,444 Speaker 3: tush push and giving all credibility to arguments in favor 152 00:06:40,484 --> 00:06:43,404 Speaker 3: of keeping it. I'm on record of this several times. Cabinda, 153 00:06:43,804 --> 00:06:47,644 Speaker 3: I actually not only ignore, but I actually openly hate 154 00:06:47,684 --> 00:06:50,444 Speaker 3: now that the word injury is being thrown around recklessly 155 00:06:50,524 --> 00:06:54,044 Speaker 3: to fuel these people's campaigns. It's being weaponized. It's a 156 00:06:54,084 --> 00:06:56,844 Speaker 3: trigger word. It's a dangerous word. It's you yell injury 157 00:06:56,884 --> 00:06:59,684 Speaker 3: and twenty twenty five into a crowded theater and people say, 158 00:06:59,684 --> 00:07:01,444 Speaker 3: oh wow, it's injury. We got to do something about it. 159 00:07:01,524 --> 00:07:04,284 Speaker 3: Stop doing that. It's cheap and as I said many times, 160 00:07:04,644 --> 00:07:07,524 Speaker 3: it's not as dangerous as a conventional running play. Also, 161 00:07:07,564 --> 00:07:09,524 Speaker 3: I keep hearing the word rugby. It's a rugby play, 162 00:07:09,524 --> 00:07:12,444 Speaker 3: it's rugby play. Maybe I'm crazy. I think the NFL 163 00:07:12,484 --> 00:07:14,244 Speaker 3: could use a little bit of rugby. If you don't 164 00:07:14,324 --> 00:07:16,644 Speaker 3: like them lining up five wide every single time, and 165 00:07:16,684 --> 00:07:18,724 Speaker 3: you missed the game of your youth, and you're like 166 00:07:18,764 --> 00:07:21,004 Speaker 3: me and you were raised on linemen like Nate Newton 167 00:07:21,044 --> 00:07:23,804 Speaker 3: and Steve McMichael, and you want a little physicality, then 168 00:07:23,844 --> 00:07:25,804 Speaker 3: maybe we do need a little rugby in the right 169 00:07:25,844 --> 00:07:28,604 Speaker 3: type of place. Don't just yell injury in rugby if 170 00:07:28,644 --> 00:07:31,404 Speaker 3: there was a real injury concern. Believe me, the NFL 171 00:07:31,444 --> 00:07:34,204 Speaker 3: has never been more progressive about injuries and its history. 172 00:07:34,364 --> 00:07:35,324 Speaker 2: Did you see what they did. 173 00:07:35,204 --> 00:07:38,404 Speaker 3: To the kickoff? It's because of the injuries. They're not 174 00:07:38,444 --> 00:07:41,004 Speaker 3: doing anything to this. And I just I think more importantly, 175 00:07:41,604 --> 00:07:43,564 Speaker 3: if there's something that charged this, this that feels like 176 00:07:43,564 --> 00:07:48,084 Speaker 3: a political topic. You as a citizen, and in this 177 00:07:48,164 --> 00:07:51,204 Speaker 3: case as a fan, you need to understand where the 178 00:07:51,764 --> 00:07:54,724 Speaker 3: elected officials if you will stand on the issues. Okay, 179 00:07:54,884 --> 00:07:57,044 Speaker 3: so I have done the liberty of doing a very 180 00:07:57,084 --> 00:07:59,804 Speaker 3: quick rundown of which coaches come out on which you 181 00:07:59,844 --> 00:08:02,924 Speaker 3: should know this as a fan. Kevin Stefanski Cleveland Browns 182 00:08:02,964 --> 00:08:06,164 Speaker 3: doesn't think it should go. Steike and Colts says, heck, yeah, 183 00:08:06,204 --> 00:08:08,684 Speaker 3: we should keep it. Aaron Glenn says my job is 184 00:08:08,724 --> 00:08:11,604 Speaker 3: to stop it. John Harbass says it's a football play. 185 00:08:11,804 --> 00:08:13,964 Speaker 3: If you want to take out pushing, then you have 186 00:08:14,004 --> 00:08:16,684 Speaker 3: to take it out across the board. Nick Sirianni obvious. 187 00:08:16,924 --> 00:08:18,964 Speaker 3: Dan Campbell thinks that should have remain in the sport. 188 00:08:19,204 --> 00:08:21,924 Speaker 3: Kellen Moore says he's very comfortable with the play. Mike 189 00:08:22,004 --> 00:08:24,284 Speaker 3: McDonald thinks it's a good play. You have to defend it. 190 00:08:24,604 --> 00:08:26,644 Speaker 3: Then you have the guys who I don't really understand 191 00:08:26,684 --> 00:08:27,124 Speaker 3: their taker. 192 00:08:27,204 --> 00:08:28,044 Speaker 2: They don't have one. 193 00:08:28,204 --> 00:08:31,244 Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin says he's open minded, but his perspective is 194 00:08:31,284 --> 00:08:34,324 Speaker 3: on player safety. Tamiko Ryan says it's hard to penalize 195 00:08:34,324 --> 00:08:36,164 Speaker 3: the team for doing well, but it's also hard to 196 00:08:36,164 --> 00:08:38,924 Speaker 3: stop it. There's lots of factors. Dan Quinn, on the 197 00:08:38,924 --> 00:08:41,644 Speaker 3: coach of subcommittee, says, I think I spend more of 198 00:08:41,684 --> 00:08:43,084 Speaker 3: my time thinking of ways. 199 00:08:42,844 --> 00:08:45,484 Speaker 2: To stop it. Sean McVay all over the place. 200 00:08:45,644 --> 00:08:48,324 Speaker 3: In one breath, he says, I don't think you penalize 201 00:08:48,324 --> 00:08:50,644 Speaker 3: the team for being good at something. But also it 202 00:08:50,684 --> 00:08:52,644 Speaker 3: doesn't look like a football play to me, So I 203 00:08:52,644 --> 00:08:54,284 Speaker 3: don't know where Seawn and the Rams come out. 204 00:08:54,524 --> 00:08:58,164 Speaker 2: Then you have your staunch anti push push section. 205 00:08:58,324 --> 00:09:01,764 Speaker 3: It's a small group, but vocal Sean McDermot at Buffalo Bills. 206 00:09:01,804 --> 00:09:05,964 Speaker 3: He cites injury concerns and being responded and proactive. Raheem 207 00:09:06,004 --> 00:09:09,084 Speaker 3: Morris Atlanta Falcons. I don't like the play. I don't 208 00:09:09,084 --> 00:09:10,644 Speaker 3: want for what I have to do to stop it. 209 00:09:10,684 --> 00:09:13,244 Speaker 3: He wants it gone, and then of course, naturally Green 210 00:09:13,244 --> 00:09:16,444 Speaker 3: Bay Packers Matt Lafleur says, this more of a rugby play, 211 00:09:16,604 --> 00:09:19,484 Speaker 3: not really a football play. As an aside, the Packers 212 00:09:19,484 --> 00:09:22,164 Speaker 3: also ran it last year with Tucker Craft and they 213 00:09:22,284 --> 00:09:25,084 Speaker 3: used it. So that is where they come out with 214 00:09:25,124 --> 00:09:27,164 Speaker 3: some exceptions, kind of holding out, we're not going to 215 00:09:27,244 --> 00:09:29,604 Speaker 3: vote on this for a while. They table it. They said, 216 00:09:29,604 --> 00:09:32,444 Speaker 3: we don't know, we need more time. I personally, as 217 00:09:32,484 --> 00:09:34,364 Speaker 3: a fan and as an advocate of the game. 218 00:09:34,204 --> 00:09:35,044 Speaker 2: I've seen enough. 219 00:09:35,084 --> 00:09:37,124 Speaker 3: I've said enough, and I just want to read one 220 00:09:37,124 --> 00:09:39,564 Speaker 3: final thing before we get to Connor Orr from Sports 221 00:09:39,604 --> 00:09:42,164 Speaker 3: Illustrated wrote a blistering column on this, and I'm going 222 00:09:42,204 --> 00:09:43,764 Speaker 3: to read the part of it. This is the most 223 00:09:43,764 --> 00:09:46,204 Speaker 3: pathetic and truly American way to back your way out 224 00:09:46,204 --> 00:09:49,404 Speaker 3: of a legitimate fistfight. It's like flagging your neighbor for 225 00:09:49,484 --> 00:09:53,044 Speaker 3: a shrubbery violation with the HOA because you're mad at 226 00:09:53,044 --> 00:09:56,044 Speaker 3: how badly they demolish you in the Christmas Lights contest 227 00:09:56,124 --> 00:09:56,764 Speaker 3: every year. 228 00:09:57,124 --> 00:09:58,004 Speaker 2: They do it better. 229 00:09:58,204 --> 00:10:01,124 Speaker 3: You don't when when why let's scream about injuries and 230 00:10:01,164 --> 00:10:02,484 Speaker 3: say it looks like rugby. 231 00:10:02,604 --> 00:10:05,004 Speaker 2: It's so pathetic, you cowards. Stop it. 232 00:10:05,364 --> 00:10:08,404 Speaker 3: Vote right in twenty twenty five. Keep the tush push 233 00:10:08,404 --> 00:10:11,644 Speaker 3: where it belongs, right at the goal line. We are 234 00:10:11,684 --> 00:10:14,204 Speaker 3: down at twenty four. And listen, Lance has done this 235 00:10:14,204 --> 00:10:15,764 Speaker 3: a long time. He doesn't do it for clicks, he 236 00:10:15,804 --> 00:10:17,604 Speaker 3: doesn't do it off the top of his head. But 237 00:10:17,684 --> 00:10:19,764 Speaker 3: this is a really unusual thing from a guy who 238 00:10:19,764 --> 00:10:20,764 Speaker 3: does this every single year. 239 00:10:21,084 --> 00:10:22,364 Speaker 2: Let's just put this into context. 240 00:10:22,404 --> 00:10:24,204 Speaker 3: Now. Maybe he will, maybe he won't these are hardly 241 00:10:24,284 --> 00:10:26,564 Speaker 3: tablets of stone, But I want to look at it 242 00:10:26,724 --> 00:10:29,524 Speaker 3: comparison to all the other people who do this every 243 00:10:29,524 --> 00:10:32,284 Speaker 3: single year. What matters here is this is where all 244 00:10:32,324 --> 00:10:37,244 Speaker 3: these people have Shauduur going Daniel Bucky Brook second third, second, 245 00:10:37,484 --> 00:10:39,844 Speaker 3: seventh at omevs. I'm all the way down at fifteen, 246 00:10:39,884 --> 00:10:42,564 Speaker 3: then go over to the right column again, second, second, third, 247 00:10:42,804 --> 00:10:46,844 Speaker 3: ninth in the Sports Illustrated mock draft, with Zerlin saying no, no, no, no, 248 00:10:46,884 --> 00:10:48,284 Speaker 3: it's gonna go all the way down. 249 00:10:48,164 --> 00:10:48,684 Speaker 2: To twenty four. 250 00:10:48,724 --> 00:10:51,684 Speaker 3: There's gonna be twenty three picks before someone takes Shaduur Sanders. 251 00:10:51,924 --> 00:10:53,284 Speaker 2: And I don't think it's crazy. 252 00:10:53,364 --> 00:10:55,204 Speaker 3: I think this is this kind of draft where there 253 00:10:55,244 --> 00:10:57,884 Speaker 3: aren't a lot of good quarterbacks, but there's one incredibly 254 00:10:58,004 --> 00:11:02,004 Speaker 3: fascinating quarterback, and at Shadure Sanders, where there will be 255 00:11:02,004 --> 00:11:04,764 Speaker 3: nothing that shocks me in that he goes number one 256 00:11:04,804 --> 00:11:06,084 Speaker 3: overall won't even shock me. 257 00:11:06,284 --> 00:11:07,844 Speaker 2: Number thirty two, second round. 258 00:11:08,044 --> 00:11:10,124 Speaker 3: It is a guy who you can't really put your 259 00:11:10,124 --> 00:11:12,324 Speaker 3: finger on. The comp that I have for it is 260 00:11:12,964 --> 00:11:15,484 Speaker 3: at the draft is Johnny Manzel, not the same player, 261 00:11:15,604 --> 00:11:16,524 Speaker 3: not the same person. 262 00:11:16,804 --> 00:11:18,244 Speaker 2: But really, people showed up. 263 00:11:18,204 --> 00:11:20,564 Speaker 3: To that draft being like I don't know based on 264 00:11:20,644 --> 00:11:22,444 Speaker 3: fifty different factors. 265 00:11:21,964 --> 00:11:23,044 Speaker 2: I don't know where he's going. 266 00:11:23,604 --> 00:11:25,604 Speaker 3: My gut is that he will not get that far 267 00:11:25,684 --> 00:11:30,484 Speaker 3: shadure because I just don't think that teams, franchises, gms 268 00:11:30,764 --> 00:11:35,484 Speaker 3: can resist the pedigree, the talents, the sizzle, the toughness. 269 00:11:35,524 --> 00:11:38,964 Speaker 3: Like to see that name and that marquee. I just 270 00:11:39,044 --> 00:11:41,364 Speaker 3: don't know if they can resist it that many times. 271 00:11:41,404 --> 00:11:44,084 Speaker 3: I don't think he'll go as high as as maybe. 272 00:11:43,884 --> 00:11:46,084 Speaker 2: In the first two picks, but I don't see him 273 00:11:46,084 --> 00:11:46,524 Speaker 2: going as. 274 00:11:46,364 --> 00:11:48,884 Speaker 3: Low as twenty four. And yet this is what the 275 00:11:48,964 --> 00:11:52,924 Speaker 3: draft is. Mantai like it's bedlam. Sometimes it's absolute chaos. 276 00:11:53,124 --> 00:11:56,004 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield goes number one overall when we were all positive, 277 00:11:56,044 --> 00:11:58,924 Speaker 3: who's going to be Sam Darnold, Shador Sanders. Anything is 278 00:11:58,964 --> 00:12:04,844 Speaker 3: on the table and we're three weeks away. 279 00:12:09,644 --> 00:12:12,484 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 280 00:12:12,524 --> 00:12:17,644 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 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