1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,377 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, team, Welcome to The 4 00:00:21,417 --> 00:00:27,617 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. On this episode, Jack Pusso Bic, Jack Posobic, 5 00:00:27,737 --> 00:00:31,817 Speaker 1: How do we even describe the man known and beloved 6 00:00:31,857 --> 00:00:35,657 Speaker 1: by so many as posts? So? He is a senior 7 00:00:35,777 --> 00:00:39,857 Speaker 1: editor at hun events dot com, a veteran Navy intel officer, 8 00:00:40,537 --> 00:00:45,457 Speaker 1: a man who loves his Catholicism and his Polishness, and 9 00:00:45,777 --> 00:00:50,337 Speaker 1: also podcast host and generalman about town. Mister mister Postoba, 10 00:00:50,377 --> 00:00:53,137 Speaker 1: good to have you, sir, Thank you appreciate the intro. 11 00:00:53,257 --> 00:00:55,057 Speaker 1: And the only thing I would add is that I 12 00:00:55,377 --> 00:00:58,537 Speaker 1: am I am but a humble purveyor of cheap and 13 00:00:58,617 --> 00:01:02,777 Speaker 1: yet cheap, affordable, and yet quality. Rest to all those 14 00:01:02,897 --> 00:01:08,337 Speaker 1: travelers weary from scrolling the internets. Yes, I am your 15 00:01:08,417 --> 00:01:11,737 Speaker 1: humble merchant. Wow, he's doing He's doing a pillow Postso 16 00:01:11,897 --> 00:01:13,817 Speaker 1: right now, look at this pillow Posts. So I know, 17 00:01:13,937 --> 00:01:15,657 Speaker 1: I know, I know the moves. I know all the 18 00:01:15,697 --> 00:01:19,297 Speaker 1: moves Posts. So you know whose learn it from? You? 19 00:01:19,297 --> 00:01:22,017 Speaker 1: You know who else knows the moves these days? Chairman 20 00:01:22,137 --> 00:01:27,137 Speaker 1: she and putin they're buddying up Russia China. This if 21 00:01:27,177 --> 00:01:30,817 Speaker 1: we were trying to create in a lab the worst 22 00:01:31,097 --> 00:01:34,497 Speaker 1: national security scenario over the long term for the US, 23 00:01:34,817 --> 00:01:37,777 Speaker 1: it feels to me like a Russia China alliance, a 24 00:01:37,897 --> 00:01:40,497 Speaker 1: real one, not just sort of a general economic Oh, 25 00:01:40,537 --> 00:01:43,897 Speaker 1: we're gonna be buddies, A real one is pretty scary. 26 00:01:43,937 --> 00:01:46,617 Speaker 1: What do you think. Well, so, when you look at 27 00:01:46,657 --> 00:01:51,977 Speaker 1: it in terms of just just basic grand strategy, real politic, 28 00:01:52,497 --> 00:01:55,457 Speaker 1: you have to understand that in the world has currently constituted, 29 00:01:55,497 --> 00:02:00,057 Speaker 1: there are essentially three great powers. There's China, Russia, and 30 00:02:00,257 --> 00:02:04,977 Speaker 1: the United States. Now, in the Cold War it was China, China, 31 00:02:05,057 --> 00:02:07,377 Speaker 1: the Soviet Union, and the United States. And this is 32 00:02:07,417 --> 00:02:09,657 Speaker 1: what and that it was the Cold War, Cold War, 33 00:02:09,737 --> 00:02:13,857 Speaker 1: Cold War China Goo's communist in nineteen forty nine. Then 34 00:02:14,417 --> 00:02:17,817 Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies there's all these secret meetings, the 35 00:02:17,857 --> 00:02:20,097 Speaker 1: secret travels of Kissinger, and then of course the very 36 00:02:20,137 --> 00:02:24,897 Speaker 1: public travel of Nixon to China that breaks up Russia China, 37 00:02:24,977 --> 00:02:28,257 Speaker 1: that brings China into the US's orbit, and that sets 38 00:02:28,297 --> 00:02:32,817 Speaker 1: the stage for the eventual downfall of the Soviet Union. 39 00:02:32,897 --> 00:02:35,977 Speaker 1: As the Austrians used to say, in a world of 40 00:02:36,017 --> 00:02:40,577 Speaker 1: three B two, and so what we've done, essentially is 41 00:02:40,577 --> 00:02:42,977 Speaker 1: the opposite of that. We've decided to throw all that 42 00:02:43,057 --> 00:02:46,257 Speaker 1: grand strategy out the window. We've decided to throw common 43 00:02:46,417 --> 00:02:49,057 Speaker 1: sense out of the window and decide that in a 44 00:02:49,137 --> 00:02:52,137 Speaker 1: world of three great powers, that we were going to 45 00:02:52,217 --> 00:02:55,337 Speaker 1: drive both of them into each other's arms at the 46 00:02:55,377 --> 00:02:59,137 Speaker 1: same time. Because when you consider it from the standpoint 47 00:02:59,137 --> 00:03:02,297 Speaker 1: of any US diplomat, your goal should always be to 48 00:03:02,377 --> 00:03:05,697 Speaker 1: try to isolate Russia and then isolate China so that 49 00:03:05,737 --> 00:03:09,497 Speaker 1: they specifically do not ever do what just happened this week. 50 00:03:10,617 --> 00:03:12,857 Speaker 1: What do you think about the Biden administration policy in 51 00:03:13,017 --> 00:03:16,897 Speaker 1: Ukraine up to this point, Well, so, I think what 52 00:03:16,937 --> 00:03:20,937 Speaker 1: they've done essentially, not just in Ukraine, but also in 53 00:03:21,057 --> 00:03:25,017 Speaker 1: their this idea of their interactions with Russia. I remember 54 00:03:25,257 --> 00:03:29,697 Speaker 1: complete refusal of negotiations, complete refusal to have one on 55 00:03:29,697 --> 00:03:32,297 Speaker 1: one talks. It seems like they're not even phone calls 56 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:36,177 Speaker 1: going on between between the Kremlin and the White House. 57 00:03:36,297 --> 00:03:39,177 Speaker 1: Right now, I think of Reagan, right Reagan would be 58 00:03:39,297 --> 00:03:43,217 Speaker 1: meeting with Soviet leaders even during the invasion of Afghanistan, 59 00:03:43,697 --> 00:03:46,297 Speaker 1: so he always kept that door open and had this 60 00:03:46,337 --> 00:03:49,217 Speaker 1: sort of two track policy where okay, you can point 61 00:03:49,217 --> 00:03:52,777 Speaker 1: out that the United States was certainly funding elements of 62 00:03:52,817 --> 00:03:56,977 Speaker 1: the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan, but also he was still meeting 63 00:03:57,017 --> 00:04:00,257 Speaker 1: with Soviet leaders, he was still opening up this diplomatic side. 64 00:04:00,697 --> 00:04:06,337 Speaker 1: Now we've decided to completely eschew any diplomatic negotiations whatsoever. 65 00:04:06,737 --> 00:04:11,097 Speaker 1: You've got people that are just absolute radical like Victoria 66 00:04:11,217 --> 00:04:13,617 Speaker 1: Newland and Tony Blincoln, who just does whatever she says. 67 00:04:13,657 --> 00:04:15,697 Speaker 1: I mean, he's basically her clerk at the end of 68 00:04:15,697 --> 00:04:19,817 Speaker 1: the day, and who say that Russia has to give 69 00:04:19,857 --> 00:04:22,817 Speaker 1: back Crimea and the dun Bass, and the Kremlin needs 70 00:04:22,817 --> 00:04:24,457 Speaker 1: to be reduced to ash and all of the you know, 71 00:04:24,537 --> 00:04:26,297 Speaker 1: Putin has to step down and all this stuff that 72 00:04:26,497 --> 00:04:28,457 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's just not going to happen. It's literally 73 00:04:28,497 --> 00:04:31,497 Speaker 1: just not going to happen. And then they've completely decided 74 00:04:31,537 --> 00:04:35,417 Speaker 1: to forget about having any strategy other than simply thinking 75 00:04:35,457 --> 00:04:37,897 Speaker 1: that it's it's it's nineteen ninety two again and the 76 00:04:37,977 --> 00:04:40,617 Speaker 1: United States can just dominate the world and tell everybody 77 00:04:40,657 --> 00:04:42,337 Speaker 1: what they want, like we did in the in the 78 00:04:42,337 --> 00:04:45,337 Speaker 1: Gulf War, and we did during this packs Americana. At 79 00:04:45,377 --> 00:04:47,657 Speaker 1: the end of history that Fukiyama told us about the 80 00:04:47,697 --> 00:04:51,657 Speaker 1: peace dividend, and unfortunately we're not there anymore. And you 81 00:04:51,657 --> 00:04:54,257 Speaker 1: can talk about the millions of reasons why, the rise 82 00:04:54,257 --> 00:04:57,497 Speaker 1: of China, the relative decrease in American influence, etc. The 83 00:04:59,017 --> 00:05:02,457 Speaker 1: overabundance of US power, trying to fill the world with NATO, 84 00:05:02,657 --> 00:05:06,977 Speaker 1: like our adventures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. The list 85 00:05:07,017 --> 00:05:09,537 Speaker 1: goes on. But essentially the rest of the world has 86 00:05:09,537 --> 00:05:11,177 Speaker 1: gotten to the point where they're kind of sick of it, 87 00:05:11,177 --> 00:05:13,297 Speaker 1: and they're kind of sick of us, and they realize 88 00:05:13,297 --> 00:05:16,617 Speaker 1: that what China has offered. Now with China's offering along 89 00:05:16,657 --> 00:05:19,537 Speaker 1: with bricks, and keep in mind at India and Brazil 90 00:05:19,937 --> 00:05:23,017 Speaker 1: are also going along with this. They're quietly right now, 91 00:05:23,017 --> 00:05:24,737 Speaker 1: but they're also go along in South Africa as well. 92 00:05:24,777 --> 00:05:28,617 Speaker 1: They don't really have a choice that Russia and China 93 00:05:28,657 --> 00:05:31,977 Speaker 1: are saying, we're offering an alternate to the Western system, 94 00:05:32,057 --> 00:05:34,057 Speaker 1: not just the American system, but the Western system at 95 00:05:34,137 --> 00:05:36,857 Speaker 1: large that includes Europe, the World Economic Forum, et cetera. 96 00:05:36,977 --> 00:05:40,537 Speaker 1: Where they say, we don't care what your values are, 97 00:05:40,617 --> 00:05:42,657 Speaker 1: we don't care if your dictators, we don't care who 98 00:05:42,697 --> 00:05:44,697 Speaker 1: you execute on a regular basis. We just want to 99 00:05:44,697 --> 00:05:48,017 Speaker 1: access to resources we want your basing rights, we want portage, 100 00:05:48,097 --> 00:05:49,937 Speaker 1: we want to be able to sell our products in 101 00:05:49,977 --> 00:05:51,817 Speaker 1: your country, and we want to make sure that all 102 00:05:51,857 --> 00:05:54,657 Speaker 1: your rare earth minerals are coming to us. And you look, 103 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:57,937 Speaker 1: the Saudi's and the Iranians. Guess what, the Sunni and 104 00:05:57,977 --> 00:06:01,097 Speaker 1: the Shia buck have just signed a deal at the 105 00:06:01,137 --> 00:06:05,177 Speaker 1: behest of Beijing. The Turks and the Syrians are signing 106 00:06:05,177 --> 00:06:07,097 Speaker 1: a deal now for the first time in something like 107 00:06:07,137 --> 00:06:10,377 Speaker 1: eight year, probably a decade actually ten years, where seen 108 00:06:10,377 --> 00:06:13,057 Speaker 1: this um You know, the essentially Airdawine wanted to side 109 00:06:13,057 --> 00:06:15,257 Speaker 1: out of there. Now they're signing a deal. Israel has 110 00:06:15,297 --> 00:06:18,057 Speaker 1: just kind of forgotten about Israel. The Abraham Accords just 111 00:06:18,097 --> 00:06:22,137 Speaker 1: completely gone. The Yemenes and the Hoothies, it looks like 112 00:06:22,177 --> 00:06:25,817 Speaker 1: that's actually starting to quiet down. The Egyptians were getting involved. 113 00:06:25,817 --> 00:06:29,417 Speaker 1: We're hearing all throughout Africa. They're meeting with China and 114 00:06:29,497 --> 00:06:32,577 Speaker 1: Russia and even in South America as well. So we've 115 00:06:32,577 --> 00:06:37,417 Speaker 1: seen this with Oberdor in Mexico and also in Brazil 116 00:06:37,457 --> 00:06:40,857 Speaker 1: with their new leader, so with Lula, and so the 117 00:06:40,937 --> 00:06:45,057 Speaker 1: United States really has to understand what's happening here. Plus 118 00:06:45,577 --> 00:06:47,817 Speaker 1: what's interesting to me is to look at the role 119 00:06:47,897 --> 00:06:51,857 Speaker 1: of Russia in this because we've forced Russia into this 120 00:06:51,897 --> 00:06:55,177 Speaker 1: alliance with China. But also Russia has been forced to 121 00:06:55,177 --> 00:06:58,617 Speaker 1: be there as the junior partner because they don't no 122 00:06:58,657 --> 00:07:00,857 Speaker 1: longer have access to Western capital markets. They no longer 123 00:07:00,897 --> 00:07:05,297 Speaker 1: have access obviously to Europe to sell their gas because 124 00:07:05,337 --> 00:07:07,777 Speaker 1: obviously that pipeline is now resting at the bottom of 125 00:07:07,817 --> 00:07:11,417 Speaker 1: the politic sea. I wonder who put it there, and 126 00:07:12,137 --> 00:07:15,457 Speaker 1: they've basically severed their entire ties with the West. And 127 00:07:15,497 --> 00:07:19,137 Speaker 1: so what you're seeing now is this massive balance of economic, 128 00:07:19,257 --> 00:07:23,097 Speaker 1: geopolitical and military power that is shifting to this new 129 00:07:23,217 --> 00:07:26,337 Speaker 1: Eastern alliance. And there's an obvious fault line right there 130 00:07:26,377 --> 00:07:29,457 Speaker 1: for Russia where we could, as US diplomats, you could 131 00:07:29,457 --> 00:07:31,617 Speaker 1: easily say, do you really want to be the junior 132 00:07:31,617 --> 00:07:33,897 Speaker 1: partner to China? Do you really want to be subservient 133 00:07:33,937 --> 00:07:37,297 Speaker 1: to Beijing? Because we could offer you an off ramp 134 00:07:37,737 --> 00:07:39,937 Speaker 1: if we can at least get these things shut down 135 00:07:39,937 --> 00:07:42,297 Speaker 1: in Ukraine. But of course no one in the US 136 00:07:42,417 --> 00:07:44,577 Speaker 1: is actually thinking that way. What do you think a 137 00:07:44,697 --> 00:07:48,457 Speaker 1: sensible end to the war in Ukraine would look like? 138 00:07:48,777 --> 00:07:50,777 Speaker 1: What would have to get done for us to be 139 00:07:50,817 --> 00:07:54,097 Speaker 1: at that place? Well, I think a sensible end is 140 00:07:54,137 --> 00:07:56,777 Speaker 1: to understand that. And I say this with my navy 141 00:07:56,777 --> 00:08:00,897 Speaker 1: intel and had on that clearly, Crimea is a red 142 00:08:00,937 --> 00:08:04,777 Speaker 1: line for the Russians for putin there. It's the home 143 00:08:04,857 --> 00:08:09,097 Speaker 1: port of their Black Sea Fleet, it's their main base Sebastopol. 144 00:08:09,137 --> 00:08:11,097 Speaker 1: They're not going to give that up. As far as 145 00:08:11,137 --> 00:08:14,377 Speaker 1: specific territory in the Donbass or this land bridge that 146 00:08:14,377 --> 00:08:17,977 Speaker 1: they've built, I feel like that's negotiable. Obviously, a ceasefire 147 00:08:17,977 --> 00:08:20,097 Speaker 1: would be the first thing the armistice to be signed. 148 00:08:20,417 --> 00:08:23,857 Speaker 1: And we're also, by the way, we are hearing noise 149 00:08:23,977 --> 00:08:26,497 Speaker 1: out of the Kremlin saying that they want that. And 150 00:08:26,577 --> 00:08:29,337 Speaker 1: remember it's the Biden administration right now that's rejecting it. 151 00:08:29,377 --> 00:08:31,497 Speaker 1: They're saying, oh, this would be peace on Russia's terms, 152 00:08:31,537 --> 00:08:33,897 Speaker 1: This would be coopting what they've done. This would be 153 00:08:35,577 --> 00:08:39,217 Speaker 1: what do they say, parroting Russian propaganda, freezing the gains 154 00:08:39,297 --> 00:08:41,457 Speaker 1: in Well, guess what, you know. The situation on the 155 00:08:41,457 --> 00:08:44,097 Speaker 1: ground is the situation of the ground. But essentially what 156 00:08:44,177 --> 00:08:47,057 Speaker 1: the US would have to do is more than likely 157 00:08:47,537 --> 00:08:51,857 Speaker 1: drop NATO membership for Ukraine. This proposal, that's obviously their 158 00:08:51,857 --> 00:08:53,897 Speaker 1: biggest red line for Russia. That's why they win, and 159 00:08:53,937 --> 00:08:56,777 Speaker 1: they keep saying it over and over and but number two, 160 00:08:57,017 --> 00:08:59,777 Speaker 1: they would more than likely be some kind of international 161 00:08:59,857 --> 00:09:01,577 Speaker 1: and this is what China wants, by the way, as well, 162 00:09:01,617 --> 00:09:04,257 Speaker 1: they've also agreed to this. They want some kind of 163 00:09:04,297 --> 00:09:08,137 Speaker 1: international peace deal for whatever's left of Ukraine right now. 164 00:09:08,257 --> 00:09:11,657 Speaker 1: And then in addition, hammer out what exactly the economic 165 00:09:11,697 --> 00:09:15,137 Speaker 1: agreement is going to be between Ukraine and Europe. So 166 00:09:15,257 --> 00:09:18,217 Speaker 1: there's going to be one. Maybe it's EU membership or 167 00:09:18,257 --> 00:09:21,697 Speaker 1: some kind of you know, um, you know, observer status 168 00:09:21,697 --> 00:09:24,177 Speaker 1: in the EU where they get access to Schengen that 169 00:09:24,257 --> 00:09:28,017 Speaker 1: type of thing, but not necessarily full NATO membership without 170 00:09:28,097 --> 00:09:31,897 Speaker 1: NATO bases inside European borders, which of course is very 171 00:09:32,017 --> 00:09:34,897 Speaker 1: very upsetting to the Kremlin. I feel like all of 172 00:09:34,897 --> 00:09:37,977 Speaker 1: that could be hammered out rather than us getting into 173 00:09:38,217 --> 00:09:40,297 Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I just watched The All 174 00:09:40,337 --> 00:09:42,657 Speaker 1: Quiet on the Western Front Front the other day, very 175 00:09:42,657 --> 00:09:45,697 Speaker 1: good movie, fantastic, so fantastic, and I've read the book 176 00:09:45,737 --> 00:09:48,817 Speaker 1: years ago, but they point out that for four years 177 00:09:48,857 --> 00:09:51,417 Speaker 1: those trenches, you know, you have, millions of people were 178 00:09:51,417 --> 00:09:54,497 Speaker 1: being killed over you know, a football field's worth of 179 00:09:54,617 --> 00:09:58,377 Speaker 1: territory in some cases, or a couple of football fields. 180 00:09:58,417 --> 00:10:00,657 Speaker 1: You know, we could save ourselves a lot of the 181 00:10:00,657 --> 00:10:03,577 Speaker 1: trouble and save a lot of lives, a lot of 182 00:10:03,577 --> 00:10:06,897 Speaker 1: people's sons and daughters, and god forbid, everyone else who's 183 00:10:06,897 --> 00:10:10,217 Speaker 1: caught up in this conflict by just skipping to the 184 00:10:10,297 --> 00:10:12,497 Speaker 1: end right now. 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All right, mister mister Postovic, 212 00:11:28,977 --> 00:11:32,337 Speaker 1: tell me more about China and Taiwan and how Russia 213 00:11:32,457 --> 00:11:35,937 Speaker 1: Ukraine does or does not factor into the timeline and 214 00:11:36,017 --> 00:11:39,857 Speaker 1: decision making there. Well, it certainly factors in, and you 215 00:11:39,937 --> 00:11:42,297 Speaker 1: have to say that with Russia or should you say 216 00:11:42,297 --> 00:11:44,497 Speaker 1: with Beijing? With China, and of course she didnt. Bing 217 00:11:44,577 --> 00:11:46,737 Speaker 1: is more than happy to go to Moscow to give 218 00:11:46,777 --> 00:11:48,537 Speaker 1: Putin all the face that he needs, because that's what 219 00:11:48,577 --> 00:11:52,257 Speaker 1: Putin needs, right, He needs this credibility on the world stage. 220 00:11:52,337 --> 00:11:55,897 Speaker 1: He needs an answer to the you know, everyone looking 221 00:11:55,897 --> 00:11:58,057 Speaker 1: out there saying Okay, what's to become of Russia. It's 222 00:11:58,057 --> 00:12:00,697 Speaker 1: this huge wild card. Hijin Ping goes in and gives 223 00:12:00,777 --> 00:12:03,177 Speaker 1: them all the credibility in the world. What does this 224 00:12:03,217 --> 00:12:07,977 Speaker 1: mean that he's now beholden to He now owes that 225 00:12:08,177 --> 00:12:11,617 Speaker 1: all to Sheijin Ping. So you've got Russia on your side. 226 00:12:11,817 --> 00:12:15,177 Speaker 1: The calculation of what because what does China need for 227 00:12:15,257 --> 00:12:18,017 Speaker 1: the to fuel their massive growth. They need gas, they 228 00:12:18,057 --> 00:12:21,937 Speaker 1: need oil. And guess what is directly south of those 229 00:12:22,017 --> 00:12:26,177 Speaker 1: massive gas deposits in far eastern Siberia is Beijing. It's 230 00:12:26,297 --> 00:12:28,897 Speaker 1: right there. And so they're built. They've of course signed 231 00:12:28,897 --> 00:12:31,497 Speaker 1: a deal for pipelines. They're going to be building nuclear plants, 232 00:12:31,497 --> 00:12:34,857 Speaker 1: atomic plants, They're going to be doing everything. As it 233 00:12:34,897 --> 00:12:38,177 Speaker 1: comes to the degree of control. When when you look 234 00:12:38,217 --> 00:12:40,817 Speaker 1: at Taiwan VSA V Taiwan So Taiwan So, China is 235 00:12:40,817 --> 00:12:44,777 Speaker 1: pursuing an interesting strategy where Russia, you could say, is 236 00:12:44,777 --> 00:12:49,257 Speaker 1: pursuing the Mkinder world island strategy for this dominance of 237 00:12:49,577 --> 00:12:53,337 Speaker 1: Central Asia, this dominance of the heartland theory, whereas China 238 00:12:53,617 --> 00:12:58,017 Speaker 1: they are focusing more and more on Mahan, the influence 239 00:12:58,057 --> 00:13:01,977 Speaker 1: of sea power on world history. And so Mahan focuses 240 00:13:01,977 --> 00:13:07,817 Speaker 1: specifically on the strategic sea lines of communication aka choke points, 241 00:13:08,137 --> 00:13:12,137 Speaker 1: whereas China focused on in the Western Hemisphere, of course, 242 00:13:12,217 --> 00:13:15,377 Speaker 1: the Panama Canal, and then we're also hearing Tierra del Fuego, 243 00:13:15,657 --> 00:13:19,417 Speaker 1: which is the strait between Argentina and Aerarca, because they 244 00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:21,737 Speaker 1: know that the flow of trade, the flow of the 245 00:13:21,777 --> 00:13:26,737 Speaker 1: economy determined on these choke points. Where they focused on 246 00:13:26,897 --> 00:13:30,137 Speaker 1: in the Middle East, well, it's very obvious, the Suez Canal, 247 00:13:30,497 --> 00:13:33,297 Speaker 1: the Strait of Hormuz right right between essentially the Arab 248 00:13:33,337 --> 00:13:38,137 Speaker 1: Peninsula and Iran. Now we come to Asia, that's the 249 00:13:38,177 --> 00:13:40,297 Speaker 1: Strait of Malacca, so that gives you Singapore. And then 250 00:13:40,337 --> 00:13:44,137 Speaker 1: what's the most other important last piece for all of Asia. 251 00:13:44,217 --> 00:13:46,177 Speaker 1: The very last strait that they would need to control, 252 00:13:46,217 --> 00:13:49,617 Speaker 1: of course, is the Taiwan Strait. So this is part 253 00:13:49,657 --> 00:13:52,497 Speaker 1: of China's grand strategy of building the One Belt, One 254 00:13:52,617 --> 00:13:56,177 Speaker 1: Road aka the New Silk Road over land that's through 255 00:13:56,257 --> 00:14:00,057 Speaker 1: Central Asia to Europe, and then the maritime Silk Road 256 00:14:00,377 --> 00:14:02,457 Speaker 1: that includes all of those choke points that I just 257 00:14:02,537 --> 00:14:07,217 Speaker 1: let outlined. So the Taiwan Strait is key to China's 258 00:14:07,417 --> 00:14:10,697 Speaker 1: strategy these maritime shipping rounds because I hear people talk 259 00:14:10,737 --> 00:14:14,657 Speaker 1: about the issue of Taiwan and obviously the political history 260 00:14:14,697 --> 00:14:17,377 Speaker 1: of it, being the former government of China, the Republic 261 00:14:17,457 --> 00:14:20,737 Speaker 1: of China of all of the mainland now you know 262 00:14:20,817 --> 00:14:26,177 Speaker 1: in exile on Taiwan Island. Beijing considers them a rogue province. 263 00:14:26,417 --> 00:14:28,697 Speaker 1: They're sort of the facto country on their own because 264 00:14:28,697 --> 00:14:33,257 Speaker 1: they're self governing, they claim legitimacy over the rest of China, etc. Etc. 265 00:14:34,297 --> 00:14:38,217 Speaker 1: The calculus for them though, is can they control the 266 00:14:38,257 --> 00:14:42,177 Speaker 1: maritime shipping routes on the inside of the Taiwan straight 267 00:14:42,257 --> 00:14:44,537 Speaker 1: into the outside of the Taiwan straight and as long 268 00:14:44,577 --> 00:14:48,697 Speaker 1: as they can control those bucks, I don't necessarily think 269 00:14:49,057 --> 00:14:51,977 Speaker 1: that you're going to see a Chinese invasion or even 270 00:14:52,017 --> 00:14:56,577 Speaker 1: a naval blockade of Taiwan, unless, of course, unless, of course, 271 00:14:56,897 --> 00:15:02,217 Speaker 1: the United States eggs them on, or Taiwan moves for 272 00:15:02,497 --> 00:15:05,497 Speaker 1: some kind of formal declaration of independence on their own, 273 00:15:05,537 --> 00:15:09,057 Speaker 1: a declaration of independence as a as a sovereign nation. 274 00:15:09,377 --> 00:15:11,817 Speaker 1: If you see those, then of course I think you 275 00:15:11,817 --> 00:15:13,617 Speaker 1: will see China at first, I think would be a 276 00:15:13,697 --> 00:15:17,057 Speaker 1: military blockade. Naval blockade would be the most obvious move 277 00:15:17,137 --> 00:15:18,817 Speaker 1: by China. They've actually done it. They did it just 278 00:15:18,897 --> 00:15:22,057 Speaker 1: about twelve months ago when they held lie fire exercises 279 00:15:22,097 --> 00:15:25,497 Speaker 1: all around the island. And also would be very expensive. Right, 280 00:15:25,537 --> 00:15:28,777 Speaker 1: so you're talking about huge sea lift even though it's 281 00:15:28,817 --> 00:15:31,377 Speaker 1: pretty close, you've got it. That's an amphibious assault. That's 282 00:15:31,377 --> 00:15:33,577 Speaker 1: amphibious invasion. You're talking I mean, think of Normandy, the 283 00:15:33,577 --> 00:15:35,897 Speaker 1: price of Normandy, and how hard that was even back 284 00:15:35,937 --> 00:15:38,537 Speaker 1: in the nineteen forties the United States to conduct. You're 285 00:15:38,537 --> 00:15:42,057 Speaker 1: talking about the same exact issue against a fortified position. 286 00:15:42,217 --> 00:15:44,217 Speaker 1: It's not going to be easier for them. That being said, 287 00:15:44,217 --> 00:15:47,617 Speaker 1: a blockade starved them out, allow you know, not allow 288 00:15:47,777 --> 00:15:50,337 Speaker 1: United States to resupply, not allow the United States weapon 289 00:15:50,457 --> 00:15:53,617 Speaker 1: US weapons to get in. That would obviously be a huge, 290 00:15:53,817 --> 00:15:56,537 Speaker 1: huge win for the Chinese Commingist Party and a very 291 00:15:56,537 --> 00:15:59,617 Speaker 1: easy operation for the People's Liberation Army Navy to be 292 00:15:59,697 --> 00:16:02,257 Speaker 1: able to conduct. So I think that I think that 293 00:16:02,377 --> 00:16:05,537 Speaker 1: right now, the signals that we're seeing out of Beijing 294 00:16:05,697 --> 00:16:07,937 Speaker 1: seem to be that they want to go back to 295 00:16:07,977 --> 00:16:14,457 Speaker 1: this longer, lower process of pushing for Taiwan to be 296 00:16:14,577 --> 00:16:17,377 Speaker 1: absorbed into China, which is the same type of process 297 00:16:17,537 --> 00:16:21,137 Speaker 1: that they were using for Hong Kong right up until 298 00:16:21,217 --> 00:16:24,097 Speaker 1: the protests really kicked off. And when those protests kicked 299 00:16:24,097 --> 00:16:26,737 Speaker 1: off in twenty nineteen, that's when you saw the National 300 00:16:26,777 --> 00:16:29,217 Speaker 1: Security Law come in from chi Jinping. That's when you 301 00:16:29,257 --> 00:16:32,177 Speaker 1: saw the freedom leaders and democracy leaders being rounded up. 302 00:16:32,457 --> 00:16:34,257 Speaker 1: And of course we all know that just a few 303 00:16:34,257 --> 00:16:37,097 Speaker 1: months later, COVID nineteen seemed to just make all those 304 00:16:37,137 --> 00:16:39,737 Speaker 1: protests disappear because everyone was forced to lock down and 305 00:16:39,777 --> 00:16:43,817 Speaker 1: the leaders themselves also disappeared. So they would prefer very 306 00:16:43,937 --> 00:16:47,257 Speaker 1: much to use that low and slow process, because of 307 00:16:47,257 --> 00:16:50,377 Speaker 1: course the Chinese planned things out in terms of generations. 308 00:16:50,457 --> 00:16:53,177 Speaker 1: They're not like the US where we think of election cycles. 309 00:16:53,217 --> 00:16:55,617 Speaker 1: They don't have election cycles, right, and she and Ping 310 00:16:55,697 --> 00:16:58,537 Speaker 1: of course, is firmly in control of the party. And 311 00:16:58,577 --> 00:17:01,657 Speaker 1: I've heard some other you know, kind of China watchers say, oh, 312 00:17:01,737 --> 00:17:04,777 Speaker 1: she is threatened, he's vulnerable. No, he's really not. He's 313 00:17:04,817 --> 00:17:08,977 Speaker 1: taken every He took their elon Musk essentially jack Ma, 314 00:17:09,297 --> 00:17:11,257 Speaker 1: and they locked him up for nearly half a year 315 00:17:11,297 --> 00:17:14,537 Speaker 1: because he went off the playbook. This is not a 316 00:17:14,617 --> 00:17:18,857 Speaker 1: guy who feels threats internally. The only thing that he's 317 00:17:18,897 --> 00:17:20,977 Speaker 1: going to respond to because you look at it, he's 318 00:17:20,977 --> 00:17:22,897 Speaker 1: got the United States in his pocket. He's got the 319 00:17:22,897 --> 00:17:24,817 Speaker 1: world economic for him in his pocket. He's got Joe 320 00:17:24,817 --> 00:17:27,137 Speaker 1: Biden in the White House, and now he's got Vladimir 321 00:17:27,177 --> 00:17:30,777 Speaker 1: Putin who owes him a massive favor. He's holding a 322 00:17:30,777 --> 00:17:34,297 Speaker 1: lot of cards right now. Buck, That's all true. Jack. 323 00:17:34,337 --> 00:17:35,937 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about twenty twenty four. 324 00:17:36,617 --> 00:17:39,977 Speaker 1: Do you have your guy yet or Gal could be 325 00:17:40,417 --> 00:17:41,857 Speaker 1: or are you waiting to see how this plays out 326 00:17:41,857 --> 00:17:44,297 Speaker 1: in the primary? I want to discuss that with you 327 00:17:44,577 --> 00:17:47,097 Speaker 1: in just a moment. But first born from the tragedy 328 00:17:47,097 --> 00:17:49,137 Speaker 1: of nine eleven, the Tenth of the Towers Foundation has 329 00:17:49,177 --> 00:17:53,177 Speaker 1: been honoring America's heroes ever since. The Foundation honors fallen 330 00:17:53,177 --> 00:17:55,577 Speaker 1: and severely injured heroes and their families with mortgage free 331 00:17:55,577 --> 00:17:58,337 Speaker 1: smart homes. 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Join me in donating 345 00:18:32,977 --> 00:18:34,977 Speaker 1: eleven dollars a month the Tunnel of the Towers at 346 00:18:35,017 --> 00:18:37,377 Speaker 1: t twot dot org. That's t the number two T 347 00:18:38,057 --> 00:18:41,577 Speaker 1: dot org. All right, Jack, twenty twenty four, who are 348 00:18:41,577 --> 00:18:43,777 Speaker 1: going to be the nominees? Who's gonna win? And why 349 00:18:44,777 --> 00:18:47,137 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four? Well, I mean I would have said 350 00:18:47,177 --> 00:18:48,857 Speaker 1: this six months ago, but I think you've really seen 351 00:18:48,857 --> 00:18:51,057 Speaker 1: it this week that it President Trump seems to be 352 00:18:51,057 --> 00:18:53,097 Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. He's got a lot of gas 353 00:18:53,097 --> 00:18:55,497 Speaker 1: behind him right now. Obviously, all this stuff out of 354 00:18:55,537 --> 00:18:59,257 Speaker 1: New York, out of Georgia, out of DC, these potential indictments. 355 00:18:59,657 --> 00:19:02,497 Speaker 1: I think there was a miscalculation on the behalf of 356 00:19:02,497 --> 00:19:05,657 Speaker 1: the Democrats in Maeric Garland, who, by the way, it's 357 00:19:05,737 --> 00:19:07,977 Speaker 1: very clear that Mark Arland is behind what's going on 358 00:19:08,177 --> 00:19:10,417 Speaker 1: in Manhattan and Georgia as well. I don't know if 359 00:19:10,457 --> 00:19:13,777 Speaker 1: he's offered these guys some you know positions, Oh, Alvin Bragg, 360 00:19:13,817 --> 00:19:17,217 Speaker 1: I'm gonna nominate you as the assistant US whatever in 361 00:19:17,257 --> 00:19:19,537 Speaker 1: the DOJ after this. But you know, it's going flat 362 00:19:19,537 --> 00:19:23,857 Speaker 1: on his face. But it's it's done the opposite, because 363 00:19:24,377 --> 00:19:28,417 Speaker 1: it's what it's done is show I think the whole 364 00:19:28,457 --> 00:19:31,777 Speaker 1: world that that Trump was telling the truth about the 365 00:19:31,857 --> 00:19:34,337 Speaker 1: Deep State, that they really were out to get him. 366 00:19:34,377 --> 00:19:37,137 Speaker 1: That would Amanda Milius and Lee Smith and everybody pointed 367 00:19:37,177 --> 00:19:40,537 Speaker 1: out that this plot against the president was real. There was, 368 00:19:40,857 --> 00:19:43,537 Speaker 1: as crazy as it sounds, a conspiracy to get him 369 00:19:43,537 --> 00:19:47,977 Speaker 1: out of office. And now there's a almost a you know, 370 00:19:48,097 --> 00:19:51,337 Speaker 1: a preemptive coup going on to try to stop him 371 00:19:51,377 --> 00:19:53,777 Speaker 1: from returning to office. And I think the American people, 372 00:19:54,457 --> 00:19:56,617 Speaker 1: I think they're really miscalculated. There used to be a 373 00:19:56,657 --> 00:19:58,977 Speaker 1: time in this country, you know, back in the nineteen 374 00:19:59,017 --> 00:20:01,697 Speaker 1: nineties where the media kind of set the table, where 375 00:20:01,817 --> 00:20:05,617 Speaker 1: media really set public opinion in this country. And if 376 00:20:05,617 --> 00:20:07,497 Speaker 1: there was a headline in the New York Times, a 377 00:20:07,497 --> 00:20:09,977 Speaker 1: headline in the Wall Street Journal, it was done. People 378 00:20:10,257 --> 00:20:12,297 Speaker 1: just went with that and that that really you can 379 00:20:12,377 --> 00:20:14,257 Speaker 1: talk about the Iraq War and the lead up to that, 380 00:20:14,337 --> 00:20:18,457 Speaker 1: where that was kind of the last hurrah of of 381 00:20:18,497 --> 00:20:21,217 Speaker 1: that era. But it's not like that anymore, because suddenly, 382 00:20:21,217 --> 00:20:23,777 Speaker 1: if they announced charges on President Trump, I think people's 383 00:20:23,817 --> 00:20:27,137 Speaker 1: more initial response to that is going to be, you know, 384 00:20:27,257 --> 00:20:30,377 Speaker 1: something like, that's bs, why are they trying to stop 385 00:20:30,417 --> 00:20:33,857 Speaker 1: this guy? Because there's so little trust in the system 386 00:20:33,937 --> 00:20:35,697 Speaker 1: right now, there's so little trust in the media, there's 387 00:20:35,737 --> 00:20:38,777 Speaker 1: so little trust in these institutions, certainly so little trust 388 00:20:38,817 --> 00:20:42,417 Speaker 1: in the federal government, that all it does is help 389 00:20:42,497 --> 00:20:46,417 Speaker 1: him and actually burnish his credentials. And so I would 390 00:20:46,457 --> 00:20:48,017 Speaker 1: have said it six months ago, i'd say it now. 391 00:20:48,057 --> 00:20:51,217 Speaker 1: I think I think the nomination is Trump's. Obviously he's 392 00:20:51,217 --> 00:20:53,537 Speaker 1: seeking that. I don't see anybody out there on the 393 00:20:53,537 --> 00:20:56,337 Speaker 1: playing field that can really challenge him. I think that 394 00:20:56,377 --> 00:20:58,417 Speaker 1: if you saw when he went to East Palestine and 395 00:20:58,937 --> 00:21:01,777 Speaker 1: met with the families there, that it just seemed to 396 00:21:01,777 --> 00:21:05,777 Speaker 1: me that he's got this this emotional residence with voters, 397 00:21:05,857 --> 00:21:10,297 Speaker 1: particularly in the Midwest and the South and the Upper Midwest, 398 00:21:10,497 --> 00:21:14,097 Speaker 1: that I don't see any other politician in America really 399 00:21:14,137 --> 00:21:16,657 Speaker 1: breaking right now. I just don't. And how does he 400 00:21:16,937 --> 00:21:20,817 Speaker 1: stack up against Joe Biden. I think we can pretty 401 00:21:20,857 --> 00:21:23,017 Speaker 1: safely assume it will be Joe Biden running for reelection, 402 00:21:23,057 --> 00:21:27,457 Speaker 1: although it's not. But well, they will take they will, 403 00:21:27,537 --> 00:21:30,217 Speaker 1: They will put Biden. They will put a stick under 404 00:21:30,257 --> 00:21:33,777 Speaker 1: that guy's you know, coat jacket and prop him up 405 00:21:33,937 --> 00:21:36,257 Speaker 1: the weekend at Bernie's if they have to. Yeah, they will. 406 00:21:36,417 --> 00:21:39,897 Speaker 1: So let's assume. Let's assume it's Trump Biden. Does that 407 00:21:39,937 --> 00:21:44,097 Speaker 1: go I think I think it actually goes in Trump's favor. 408 00:21:44,137 --> 00:21:47,017 Speaker 1: And here's why. Because people can talk about the brashness 409 00:21:47,017 --> 00:21:49,417 Speaker 1: of President Trump, but you know what, he can also 410 00:21:49,457 --> 00:21:52,577 Speaker 1: point to two things that nobody else can four years 411 00:21:52,697 --> 00:21:56,697 Speaker 1: of peace and four years of prosperity. That America was rich, 412 00:21:56,977 --> 00:21:59,817 Speaker 1: The economy was booming for four years, and we weren't 413 00:21:59,817 --> 00:22:03,337 Speaker 1: embarking on these New World wars. There was no proxy 414 00:22:03,377 --> 00:22:06,617 Speaker 1: war in Ukraine. Tanks weren't rolling into Kiev. These horrible 415 00:22:06,657 --> 00:22:09,377 Speaker 1: images that we're seeing out of everywhere. China and Russia 416 00:22:09,417 --> 00:22:12,617 Speaker 1: weren't for me, these alliances together. It seemed like he 417 00:22:12,697 --> 00:22:14,657 Speaker 1: was kind of keeping a lot of these things in check. 418 00:22:14,697 --> 00:22:17,097 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, radical Islam, I mean Buck 419 00:22:17,097 --> 00:22:19,617 Speaker 1: when's the last time you even said the phrase radical Islam. 420 00:22:19,777 --> 00:22:22,857 Speaker 1: He wiped them out. He completely went from two thousand 421 00:22:22,857 --> 00:22:24,897 Speaker 1: and two to twenty sixteen, it was our lead issue 422 00:22:25,217 --> 00:22:28,137 Speaker 1: in like all of politics, and now it's just gone 423 00:22:28,417 --> 00:22:30,857 Speaker 1: completely wiped out in one term. And I think that 424 00:22:30,977 --> 00:22:34,577 Speaker 1: because Biden's term in office has been so abysmal that 425 00:22:34,697 --> 00:22:36,897 Speaker 1: things have gotten so crazy. The economy is in free 426 00:22:36,897 --> 00:22:39,337 Speaker 1: fall with these massive bank collapse as you just mentioned, 427 00:22:40,017 --> 00:22:42,817 Speaker 1: world of faris seemed like they're completely falling out of control. 428 00:22:42,857 --> 00:22:45,777 Speaker 1: It's essentially you're looking at the second term of Jimmy 429 00:22:45,857 --> 00:22:47,897 Speaker 1: Carter here, and I think if he frames it that 430 00:22:47,937 --> 00:22:50,537 Speaker 1: way and says, look, I've got the record to beat 431 00:22:50,617 --> 00:22:53,377 Speaker 1: this guy, plus you've got these indictments, I think he's 432 00:22:53,377 --> 00:22:58,057 Speaker 1: going to win. What do you think about DeSantis's chances 433 00:22:58,057 --> 00:23:01,497 Speaker 1: against him in the primary? You know, I think De 434 00:23:01,577 --> 00:23:04,097 Speaker 1: Santis is a strong governor. I think he's a great 435 00:23:04,097 --> 00:23:05,977 Speaker 1: I wish we had fifty roun de Santis is running 436 00:23:06,137 --> 00:23:09,337 Speaker 1: all fifty states, to be honest, I think though that 437 00:23:09,417 --> 00:23:11,937 Speaker 1: he's still he still just started his second term as governor, 438 00:23:11,937 --> 00:23:14,017 Speaker 1: and I think it makes I think more people are 439 00:23:14,017 --> 00:23:16,977 Speaker 1: looking for him to put to stack those ws in 440 00:23:17,337 --> 00:23:21,977 Speaker 1: the primary. And that being said, I would throw out this. 441 00:23:22,137 --> 00:23:24,697 Speaker 1: I don't think he'd be successful against Trump and a primary. 442 00:23:24,777 --> 00:23:27,217 Speaker 1: But and I've said this publicly a few times already, 443 00:23:27,577 --> 00:23:30,097 Speaker 1: I do think that he would be President Trump's strongest 444 00:23:30,177 --> 00:23:32,217 Speaker 1: running mate right now when you just look at it 445 00:23:32,297 --> 00:23:37,137 Speaker 1: in terms of the political process, who are those voters 446 00:23:37,177 --> 00:23:39,897 Speaker 1: that Trump needs to win back. Who are those voters 447 00:23:40,097 --> 00:23:43,417 Speaker 1: that Trump needs to make inroads in? That is the suburbs. 448 00:23:43,417 --> 00:23:45,777 Speaker 1: Trump's got the base, He's got the primary on Locke, 449 00:23:46,097 --> 00:23:49,377 Speaker 1: but in the general he could really be helped by 450 00:23:49,417 --> 00:23:53,777 Speaker 1: somebody like a Desantist to go to those voters and say, look, 451 00:23:53,817 --> 00:23:57,177 Speaker 1: you know, this is about operations, this is about policy, 452 00:23:57,217 --> 00:24:00,097 Speaker 1: This isn't about you know, mean tweets. You know, people 453 00:24:00,097 --> 00:24:02,497 Speaker 1: have issues with that. I think it's honestly something that 454 00:24:02,537 --> 00:24:05,897 Speaker 1: would be his best, his best possible pick, at least 455 00:24:05,937 --> 00:24:09,097 Speaker 1: right now. And then because Trump think of it, he's 456 00:24:09,217 --> 00:24:12,737 Speaker 1: term limited to just one more term, so he goes in. 457 00:24:13,017 --> 00:24:15,577 Speaker 1: Then that sets up the Santist essentially to have an 458 00:24:15,577 --> 00:24:18,017 Speaker 1: eight year period, so it's it's not just four years, 459 00:24:18,217 --> 00:24:21,297 Speaker 1: it's actually a twelve year, you know, stretch of just 460 00:24:21,417 --> 00:24:25,577 Speaker 1: absolute conservative dominance at the White House, which we have 461 00:24:25,737 --> 00:24:28,777 Speaker 1: seen before. If you look at Reagan Bush, would you 462 00:24:29,457 --> 00:24:32,697 Speaker 1: be willing to help broker a discussion between Trump Trump 463 00:24:32,777 --> 00:24:35,457 Speaker 1: team and de Santist team to see if that would 464 00:24:35,457 --> 00:24:38,177 Speaker 1: even be a possibility. More than happy, more than happy 465 00:24:38,217 --> 00:24:40,217 Speaker 1: to hey, they're in the same state. That that actually 466 00:24:40,257 --> 00:24:43,297 Speaker 1: would be initially enough, one of the biggest other than 467 00:24:43,377 --> 00:24:47,977 Speaker 1: obviously all the personality issues aside that. And keep in 468 00:24:48,017 --> 00:24:51,657 Speaker 1: mind that that Reagan and Bush back in nineteen eighty 469 00:24:51,657 --> 00:24:54,217 Speaker 1: that was another shotgun marriage that was made at the convention. 470 00:24:54,297 --> 00:24:57,457 Speaker 1: There was a bitter primary fight that was put between 471 00:24:58,057 --> 00:25:00,617 Speaker 1: George Bush Senior and Ronald Reagan, who then went on 472 00:25:00,657 --> 00:25:02,937 Speaker 1: to become his vice president and then of course president 473 00:25:02,977 --> 00:25:05,577 Speaker 1: after him. Sort of was in eight years and four years. 474 00:25:05,617 --> 00:25:07,897 Speaker 1: This would be four years and eight years, and so 475 00:25:08,137 --> 00:25:10,257 Speaker 1: it's it's not to say that it hasn't happened four 476 00:25:10,777 --> 00:25:14,697 Speaker 1: but also that there is a constitutional question of them 477 00:25:14,737 --> 00:25:16,497 Speaker 1: both being residents of the same state that would have 478 00:25:16,497 --> 00:25:20,017 Speaker 1: to be dealt with. Yeah, it's interesting because I see 479 00:25:20,057 --> 00:25:22,777 Speaker 1: people this is one of those things where you'll say 480 00:25:22,857 --> 00:25:25,057 Speaker 1: there's a misconception that they can't be from the same state. 481 00:25:25,057 --> 00:25:27,017 Speaker 1: You know, if you just look this up and then 482 00:25:27,137 --> 00:25:29,857 Speaker 1: people will say, actually they can't be from the same state, 483 00:25:29,897 --> 00:25:31,937 Speaker 1: and he said, he you say, okay, we got we gotta. 484 00:25:33,417 --> 00:25:35,377 Speaker 1: I can tell, as far as I can tell, it's 485 00:25:35,417 --> 00:25:38,257 Speaker 1: actually never been it's ever been challenged. So it is 486 00:25:38,257 --> 00:25:39,937 Speaker 1: one of those things that would probably go to the 487 00:25:39,937 --> 00:25:42,097 Speaker 1: Supreme Court. This is dependent on how the Article two 488 00:25:42,137 --> 00:25:44,457 Speaker 1: states the electors shall meet in their respective states and 489 00:25:44,577 --> 00:25:48,377 Speaker 1: vote by vote by ballot for two persons, of whom 490 00:25:48,417 --> 00:25:51,017 Speaker 1: at least one shall not be an inhabitant of the 491 00:25:51,097 --> 00:25:55,777 Speaker 1: state with themselves. And it says here on the original system, 492 00:25:55,817 --> 00:25:58,137 Speaker 1: electors did not distinguish between cannets and the nation's top 493 00:25:58,177 --> 00:26:01,097 Speaker 1: two offices. The candidate with the most votes became president, 494 00:26:01,097 --> 00:26:03,097 Speaker 1: the runner up became vice president. We all know that 495 00:26:03,337 --> 00:26:05,537 Speaker 1: the twelfth of 'men, adopted in eighteen o four after 496 00:26:05,577 --> 00:26:09,297 Speaker 1: two chaotic elections, mandated their electors cast separate ballots for 497 00:26:09,377 --> 00:26:12,697 Speaker 1: president and vice president. However, the rule preventing an elector 498 00:26:12,737 --> 00:26:14,857 Speaker 1: from voting for two people from his home state remained 499 00:26:14,897 --> 00:26:19,057 Speaker 1: in effect under the new system. Um, but you know, 500 00:26:19,257 --> 00:26:23,737 Speaker 1: so which which one is it? It's very confusing and 501 00:26:23,857 --> 00:26:28,017 Speaker 1: obviously the way around it would be like you can't 502 00:26:27,497 --> 00:26:29,697 Speaker 1: read history I'm reading from history dot Com and it 503 00:26:29,737 --> 00:26:32,697 Speaker 1: sounds like wait, but then they say they're misconceptions. There's 504 00:26:32,697 --> 00:26:35,457 Speaker 1: no law or regulation against a president vice president being 505 00:26:35,457 --> 00:26:38,457 Speaker 1: from the same state. So interesting. Anyway, the easiest way 506 00:26:38,457 --> 00:26:40,497 Speaker 1: around it would just be for Trump too. He could 507 00:26:40,537 --> 00:26:44,257 Speaker 1: easily switch his residence back to New York. Yeah, I'm sorry, 508 00:26:44,297 --> 00:26:46,737 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, mister president. There would be some more taxes. Um, 509 00:26:46,737 --> 00:26:48,217 Speaker 1: but it's like, well, they're already trying to what are 510 00:26:48,217 --> 00:26:50,177 Speaker 1: they going to do try to prosecute you? Oh wait, 511 00:26:51,737 --> 00:26:53,777 Speaker 1: that's true. What's the worst thing that could happen other 512 00:26:53,817 --> 00:26:56,297 Speaker 1: than the tax could happen? Are already lost it lost 513 00:26:56,297 --> 00:26:59,017 Speaker 1: a fair amount of money, um, you know, from running, 514 00:26:59,017 --> 00:27:01,137 Speaker 1: I mean, and a bunch of other Yeah. I think 515 00:27:01,217 --> 00:27:03,217 Speaker 1: that's I think that challenge is easily dealt with. I 516 00:27:03,257 --> 00:27:05,297 Speaker 1: think it's dealt with and and and quite frankly, I 517 00:27:05,297 --> 00:27:08,057 Speaker 1: think the Supreme Court looking at it because keep in 518 00:27:08,097 --> 00:27:11,097 Speaker 1: mind that the Supreme that we have right now, kind 519 00:27:11,137 --> 00:27:15,457 Speaker 1: of the Thomas Court, is constituted. They're very much originalists, 520 00:27:15,497 --> 00:27:17,897 Speaker 1: and they're focused on original intent when it comes to 521 00:27:17,937 --> 00:27:21,257 Speaker 1: constitutional questions like this. Well, the issue there that they 522 00:27:21,297 --> 00:27:24,457 Speaker 1: were trying to deal with in those initial unruly elections 523 00:27:24,857 --> 00:27:26,857 Speaker 1: was that they weren't. It was you know, it came 524 00:27:26,897 --> 00:27:30,057 Speaker 1: down to the second highest vote getter would be the 525 00:27:30,137 --> 00:27:32,857 Speaker 1: vice president, and so the issue they were dealing with 526 00:27:33,057 --> 00:27:35,537 Speaker 1: was who would become president. That was the reason for 527 00:27:35,577 --> 00:27:37,737 Speaker 1: the rule in the first place. Well, if you're running 528 00:27:37,737 --> 00:27:40,857 Speaker 1: as a combined ticket, obviously that wouldn't be an issue anymore, 529 00:27:41,817 --> 00:27:43,617 Speaker 1: right right, I mean here they're saying, by the way 530 00:27:43,737 --> 00:27:45,537 Speaker 1: they say that, it's kind of the whole thing is silly. 531 00:27:45,857 --> 00:27:48,497 Speaker 1: Like Cheney for example. This is why even if it 532 00:27:48,537 --> 00:27:50,097 Speaker 1: was an issue, it's not an issue. To your point, 533 00:27:50,137 --> 00:27:53,057 Speaker 1: I've actually looked at the bottom of the analysis here, 534 00:27:53,537 --> 00:27:56,657 Speaker 1: because which you know, Cheney had been living and the 535 00:27:56,657 --> 00:27:59,057 Speaker 1: two thousand election, Cheney had been living in paying taxes 536 00:27:59,057 --> 00:28:01,777 Speaker 1: in Texas for five years. He just changed his residence. 537 00:28:01,817 --> 00:28:06,097 Speaker 1: He just changes residency to Wyoming. Boom done. Yeah, it's 538 00:28:06,097 --> 00:28:07,857 Speaker 1: as simple as that. I don't think it would be 539 00:28:07,857 --> 00:28:09,897 Speaker 1: that hard, which gets you again gets you out of 540 00:28:09,897 --> 00:28:11,897 Speaker 1: the constitutional question. But even if you brought it to 541 00:28:11,897 --> 00:28:15,617 Speaker 1: the court, I can't imagine the court would Are you optimistic? Jack? 542 00:28:15,657 --> 00:28:17,177 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think you think things are going 543 00:28:17,217 --> 00:28:19,057 Speaker 1: to get better in the country? You have what's what 544 00:28:19,137 --> 00:28:21,817 Speaker 1: makes Jack Pisobic think that, what makes Agent Posts so 545 00:28:21,977 --> 00:28:24,697 Speaker 1: think we're all gonna be okay. I'm kind of a 546 00:28:24,697 --> 00:28:27,617 Speaker 1: white pilled guy on that, you know. I do tend 547 00:28:27,617 --> 00:28:30,937 Speaker 1: to think of myself as hopeful. I pray every morning. 548 00:28:31,017 --> 00:28:34,897 Speaker 1: I do a Rosary every morning, and we do it 549 00:28:34,897 --> 00:28:38,537 Speaker 1: with the family. And I actually think that when I 550 00:28:38,577 --> 00:28:40,737 Speaker 1: look at when I look around at the world, and 551 00:28:40,777 --> 00:28:43,577 Speaker 1: I see how crazy things are. But I also think 552 00:28:43,697 --> 00:28:46,097 Speaker 1: that I have hope in the American people. And when 553 00:28:46,097 --> 00:28:49,017 Speaker 1: I say that, what I mean is you get to 554 00:28:49,057 --> 00:28:51,817 Speaker 1: a point where things get so bad, where things get 555 00:28:51,897 --> 00:28:55,377 Speaker 1: so crazy, when things get so completely out of control, 556 00:28:55,417 --> 00:28:58,857 Speaker 1: when the units, when the when there's Chinese spy balloons 557 00:28:58,937 --> 00:29:03,457 Speaker 1: flying across our military bases and US drones getting struck 558 00:29:03,497 --> 00:29:05,457 Speaker 1: down in the Black Sea, when we even try to 559 00:29:05,497 --> 00:29:08,417 Speaker 1: take a peek at what's going on in Ukraine. By 560 00:29:08,417 --> 00:29:09,977 Speaker 1: the way, that that is how you're supposed to deal 561 00:29:10,097 --> 00:29:12,057 Speaker 1: with the drone. You shoot it out of the sky 562 00:29:12,257 --> 00:29:15,017 Speaker 1: rights rather than let it fly over your basis just 563 00:29:15,177 --> 00:29:17,657 Speaker 1: a just a point of military strategy out there for 564 00:29:17,657 --> 00:29:22,137 Speaker 1: everybody that people get sick of it. That I think 565 00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:25,057 Speaker 1: that people know that Biden generally looks weak on the 566 00:29:25,057 --> 00:29:28,457 Speaker 1: world stage. Our economy is an absolute freefall. I think 567 00:29:28,497 --> 00:29:31,057 Speaker 1: that this news about a potential Trump arrest was was 568 00:29:31,177 --> 00:29:34,417 Speaker 1: leaked because everyone was freaking out about the banking crisis. 569 00:29:34,777 --> 00:29:37,977 Speaker 1: And I think the American people realize that, you know what, 570 00:29:38,057 --> 00:29:39,817 Speaker 1: there may have been some mean tweets and there may 571 00:29:39,817 --> 00:29:41,737 Speaker 1: have been a bad Orange man in the White House, 572 00:29:41,777 --> 00:29:44,777 Speaker 1: but everyone's lives were a little bit better when that 573 00:29:44,857 --> 00:29:46,737 Speaker 1: was going on, and so you know what, it's worth it, 574 00:29:47,777 --> 00:29:51,177 Speaker 1: Jack Posopic, everybody, Jack, Where can people go to follow 575 00:29:51,217 --> 00:29:55,057 Speaker 1: your latest other than on Twitter where you are prolific? Yeah? Yeah, 576 00:29:55,097 --> 00:29:57,137 Speaker 1: way too many tweets up there. The best, honestly, if 577 00:29:57,137 --> 00:29:59,417 Speaker 1: you want, if you want post so in small, quick concise, 578 00:29:59,497 --> 00:30:02,297 Speaker 1: those is human events daily. We do the podcast every day. 579 00:30:02,537 --> 00:30:05,297 Speaker 1: It's twenty five minutes or less. Because when I was 580 00:30:05,337 --> 00:30:07,737 Speaker 1: in the Navy, they used to tell us the mark 581 00:30:07,777 --> 00:30:09,977 Speaker 1: of a good briefer was to be good, be brief, 582 00:30:10,137 --> 00:30:11,857 Speaker 1: be gone, and so that is our promise, our oath, 583 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,057 Speaker 1: and our solemn vow to our listeners every day. I 584 00:30:14,057 --> 00:30:16,217 Speaker 1: remember the CIA, we had to do elevator briefs all 585 00:30:16,217 --> 00:30:18,097 Speaker 1: the time because they basically just respired us for the 586 00:30:18,137 --> 00:30:20,657 Speaker 1: notion that important people, we're gonna say, all right, get 587 00:30:20,697 --> 00:30:22,297 Speaker 1: the elevator with me telling me when I need to know. 588 00:30:22,857 --> 00:30:25,577 Speaker 1: And I was always but I was always like, is 589 00:30:25,577 --> 00:30:28,337 Speaker 1: the elevator like, is this a skiff? Probably not. But 590 00:30:28,577 --> 00:30:30,737 Speaker 1: we're supposed to pretend that all those rules Jack, as 591 00:30:30,777 --> 00:30:33,737 Speaker 1: you know, are right here to the letter all the time. 592 00:30:34,657 --> 00:30:37,617 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, Nottally, I've never had conversations 593 00:30:37,657 --> 00:30:40,297 Speaker 1: like that in the peway, no other than you know 594 00:30:40,377 --> 00:30:42,657 Speaker 1: Joe Biden who has classified stuff hanging out next to 595 00:30:42,697 --> 00:30:45,777 Speaker 1: the corvette in his garage. Anyway, everybody, Jack Bishow, but 596 00:30:45,937 --> 00:30:48,137 Speaker 1: go follow him, Go check out Human Events Daily, and 597 00:30:48,177 --> 00:30:49,897 Speaker 1: mister Jack, great to have you. We'll talk to you soon. 598 00:30:50,457 --> 00:30:51,857 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, Buck, Thanks here man