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Speaker 1: This is a podcast called twenty five whistle Stocking fun

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Speaker 1: didn't you expect? It's a podcast called twenty five Whistles.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Whistles, presented by Draft Kings Sports Book, an

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Speaker 1: in on the action. My favorite interviews of the year.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode. If you miss last week, go

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Speaker 1: check that one out because it was Colin Cowherd, Marcellus Wiley,

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer, all amazing was. The show has only been

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Speaker 1: up since August, but maybe you're new to it. You

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Speaker 1: can catch some of that. You know. This week's list, man,

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Speaker 1: it's just my favorites Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen both from

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Speaker 1: ESPN back in the day, not to mention Paul Finebaum,

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Speaker 1: who I love, my friend. You'll also hear me talk

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Speaker 1: with one of the best NFL insiders, Ian Rappaport. It's

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Speaker 1: awesome at first Up Dan Patrick. I mean, he's the

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Speaker 1: he's the legend. He's the goat. Whether you watch Sports

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Speaker 1: Center back in the nineties or two thousand's, which I did,

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Speaker 1: or listen to Dan Patrick show on the radio, which

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Speaker 1: I do or watched which I or which I do? Everything?

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Speaker 1: I'm all Dan Patrick all the time. But here was

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Speaker 1: this interview where Dan talks about his journey from ESPN

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Speaker 1: hosting one of the biggest talk shows in the country.

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Speaker 1: Also his last second trip to Atlanta was a catalyst

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Speaker 1: you enjoyed this interview because I did with Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 1: Whoa Dan Good to talk to you. I'm big, just

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Speaker 1: massive fan, just a massive, massive fans. So you know

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Speaker 1: when they said you would actually spend a few minutes

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Speaker 1: Glad to Glad to hill. You know, whenever I'm doing

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're a little more up for one because you

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Speaker 1: And I always want to make sure if I have

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Speaker 1: But it's the person who's going to be honest or

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Speaker 1: up and hugged me. And I was just like thinking,

428
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Speaker 1: I wonder if anybody is noticing this or recording this,

429
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 1: maybe this will end up on whatever the network is

430
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Speaker 1: A Nashville see him see I'm something. But it was

431
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 1: really cool, And uh, that was the first time I've

432
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 1: ever met you, and since then I've had your people

433
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 1: have center restraining order. So I would never do that again. Okay. Look,

434
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm a massive you fan and for you to put

435
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Speaker 1: me on your show, which I listened to and watch

436
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,880
Speaker 1: and sometimes I go from the car to the TV

437
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 1: but it reminds me of back in the day when

438
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: I'll be twelve and we come in from ball practice

439
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 1: and you'd have to run in during a commercial so

440
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 1: you could catch the show. Because but I do that

441
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 1: with your show now, Like I'm listening, I got a

442
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: freaking hall, but to get in so I don't miss anything.

443
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: And it's rare. And I'm gonna say this is this

444
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 1: is a sincere compliment. It's rare in today's media world

445
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: that you care about something so much that you want

446
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: to catch it live or you want to not miss anything,

447
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,159
Speaker 1: and what you do on your show now, like I

448
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,679
Speaker 1: feel that with how you do your show, So as

449
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: a sincere compliment, I'd like to say, like, you're a

450
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: real reason that I look at sports and even media

451
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 1: in general and go, man, it can still be on

452
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,959
Speaker 1: at such a high level. Do you still feel when

453
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: you go in? Are you still so inspired and fired up?

454
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,479
Speaker 1: Or are you going I've got a job to make

455
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: sure people know and I'm gonna just take it seriously

456
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: and focus on what they expect to me. No, I mean,

457
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: I truly. I'll spare you all the cliches, but my

458
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 1: favorite time of the day is when I'm I'm sitting

459
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 1: behind a microphone in the studio. It really uh and

460
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: and I think if you get older, Bobby, you really

461
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: do appreciate it because you you don't know where it ends,

462
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,359
Speaker 1: and mostly most of the time it ends badly. But

463
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: I've COVID changed me. Uh. You know, those that year

464
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: and a half doing a show from home, hearing the

465
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: stories uh, you know, watching uh and experiencing with so

466
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: many other people were going through Really uh, I quit

467
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of the cynicism faded away. Now now

468
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: I must admit it's coming back pretty pretty fast. Um,

469
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 1: But it really was to hear stories and and now

470
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: that's probably my favorite part of not only interacting and

471
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: hearing the crazy the crazy people, as you know that's

472
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,240
Speaker 1: the trademark of the show, but hearing the real life

473
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: stories the people that that have been laid up or

474
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: are you just lost a parent or or loved one,

475
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: and they talk about with this program or your program,

476
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: or what any program means to them. And I think

477
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 1: that's really what what we all should strive to strive

478
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: to do. And I think too many people in our

479
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: industry are only there to hear themselves talk and not

480
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: the folks that they are supposed to be serving. Who

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00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: top three SEC coaches that you would be friends with

482
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: in real life or that you are friends with in

483
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Speaker 1: real life, like as people, because we see them all

484
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: and we hear them all, we we think what they're cool?

485
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,159
Speaker 1: But who are the top I'm not gonna ask if

486
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Speaker 1: you don't like the top three, that you're like, those

487
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: are my boys. And I'm not saying this to patronize you.

488
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm if I'm doing a show in Georgia,

489
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: you know you would think I'm not just saying Sam

490
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Pittman because I genuinely like him. But I genuinely like

491
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Speaker 1: this guy. And and don't quote me on this, but

492
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: I normally don't like that coaches because I find them

493
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: often to be disingenuous and hypocritical. Uh. And Pittman he

494
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: introduced me to his life this year at at the

495
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Speaker 1: SEC Spring meetings, and I just fell in love with

496
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Speaker 1: these two. I mean, because you know we're we're I'm

497
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: a couple of years older, but we're in the same

498
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 1: age group where we're both married and we don't have children.

499
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Speaker 1: And I just saw a lot of myself in him

500
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: and how somen fame got to him late in life

501
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: and nobody expected it, so so he would be at

502
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Speaker 1: the top of my list. I mean, I mean Kiffin

503
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: is is intriguing. Uh, He's he's a you know, master manipulator.

504
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: You have to accept that. I do like Kirby smart

505
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: just to kind of round out my top three. Uh.

506
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Speaker 1: And I know somebody is probably saying, well, you didn't

507
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 1: mention this one or that one, and you know what,

508
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: You're right, I didn't. You're a pretty recognizable guy. And

509
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: can you even go to dinner now and without people

510
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: coming up and being like, hey, Paul Findbaum, can I

511
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: get a picture? Can I? That's got to happen everywhere. Well,

512
00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: it's the farther south I go, the more divil culture is. Um,

513
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: so it's not like, uh, you know, I mean I

514
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: could go to a dinner in Minneapolis and I don't

515
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: think anybody would notice. But but Birmingham or Atlanta. But hey,

516
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Speaker 1: I mean I'm at the point in life where I

517
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: where I'm where I'm looking at the people that come

518
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: up to me and go like, where were you? When

519
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: it matters? I mean, I mean, you know, I'm in

520
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: my mid sixties, I've been married, thirty three years. I mean,

521
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: I I mean, I am I laugh at all this stuff.

522
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: When you know, when the home coming queen at old

523
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Speaker 1: miss comes over and says, can I get a picture

524
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 1: for Instagram? I just say, okay, can I If I

525
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: could have if that could have happened thirty five forty

526
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: years ago, and I could have sent it to all

527
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: my buddies back in high school. But what good does

528
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: it do me? Now? You say, what's Instagram? That's what

529
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: That's what you say, What's what's Instagram? Young Ladier? That's exactly, yeah, exactly. Okay,

530
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Speaker 1: We're gonna end on this. Nick Saban. Obviously you spend

531
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 1: time with him. I see you spend a time with him.

532
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 1: I see you with them. Like, what kind of like

533
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: human being is Nick Saban? Because again, all I get

534
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: is him being hilarious when not trying to be hilarious

535
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: press conferences, Uh, believe it or not. I'm working on

536
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: a book and he's he's a he's a big part

537
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: of the book. And I'm gonna try to explain the

538
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: psychology of Nick Saban. He he is not someone Bobby

539
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 1: that you want to grab and probably be entertained by. Uh,

540
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 1: but he he can be fun. And one thing about that,

541
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: you'll you'll appreciate the best conversations I've ever had with

542
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. We're not about football, but about music. He's

543
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: a classic rock fan. Uh he is. Uh he he

544
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: told me once that and I can't remember it was

545
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: the Eagles, like it was an Eagles live album. Uh

546
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 1: in Japan. He told me. He said, yeah, I played

547
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: that over and over again like for for for six months.

548
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit obsessive, Okay, Uh, I mean,

549
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the Eagles are a good band,

550
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. I could only listen to a

551
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: hotel California. But that's him. He likes them. He's he's

552
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: gone to Rolling Stone concerts. He and Bill Belichick got

553
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: into uh that. I think they had uh bon jovic

554
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: Um hang out with them one weekend. So he's not

555
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: in the country, but he is. Uh. He is a

556
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: huge classic rock guy. So when you come to town

557
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: one evening, it would be awesome if we you and

558
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: I just went to dinner one night without all the

559
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: cameras and supporters you have to follow you all the

560
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: fame and glitz like you and I for like an

561
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 1: hour and a half talking life like, that's a dream

562
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: of mine. I would love at some point to make

563
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: that happen because you walked into there. Because I am

564
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: going to be a Nashville pretty soon. Let's go, Let's go.

565
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: If you're if you're in town, we're we will be

566
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: there for the Vanderbilt the Wake Forest game. Okay, that'd

567
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: be amazing. I'm a massive fan of you. I'm always

568
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: And here's the comparison I'm making you and I and

569
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I'll let you go. You have a massive show to do.

570
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 1: Your a hero to all the world. Um. The comparison

571
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: is when I finished anything we're doing, if we do

572
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: like a twelve or third team in a break and

573
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: we're off the air, and you can tell him, what

574
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 1: do I do? As soon as I'm off the air

575
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: from being Mr Gregarious, Mr Mr Blind for the party?

576
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: What do I do? You walk out and go home?

577
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: Where I shut down? I don't. I don't have a

578
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: lot of energy. You want any time to have energy?

579
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: Like I go down and I'm like, all right, I

580
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: gotta figure out what's up next. I'm not. I'm not

581
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,479
Speaker 1: the life of the party. When there ain't a mic

582
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: in front of me and I've done your show, even

583
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: in person, even here, when you set up the stage

584
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: and very similar you go, all right, I'm off. You know,

585
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: it's like your robot that shuts down. And I can

586
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I can admire that, and because you're

587
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: a weirdo like me, and I think that's why I

588
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: love you so much, Bob find Bom. Well, I appreciate

589
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: you saying that. And when I when I see it,

590
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to sell you on getting me a

591
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: job in Nashville as a songwriter. Whatever did write a

592
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: country song about ten years ago? No, you didn't know

593
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: you did it. I did know you did it. Okay,

594
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: I'll bring it to you and I'm gonna go. I'm

595
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: gonna go to music Row or where whatever it's called

596
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: and try to sell it. Yeah it's not called music row,

597
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: but uh tell your friends you're gonna go down to

598
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 1: music Lane and ye music lane. Yeah all right, Paul, Hey,

599
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: thank you, and hopefully i'll see you soon. You're a hero,

600
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: and I'll i'll talk to you. I'm gonna tell your

601
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: guy and give them my cell phone number. If you

602
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: never text me, I understand you just you hate me.

603
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: But if you do, and you're like, let's go to dinner.

604
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Let's go, and I will let you pay because I'm

605
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: that kind of nice guy. I would be delighted. And

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00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: this has been like of all the things I've ever

607
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: done in my career, stop, okay, stoping the most recent Okay,

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00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: thank you. That's more like there is Paul fine bomb everybody,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to know for a business that runs does

640
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: he ever put those phones on silent? You know. Ian's

641
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: also had the privilege of covering Nick Saban and Bill

642
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Belichick very close and personally during his and their careers,

643
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: so I wanted to talk about that that and much

644
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: more right now with Ian rappaport Ian, how are you?

645
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm great, How are you? Hey? Pretty good? I'm I'm

646
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: pumped to have you on. Is your phone ever on

647
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: silent I mean, being a guy that gets all this

648
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: information and you know you're one of the best, if

649
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: not the best, at your job. Is it ever on

650
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: island where you just go? I can't turn my phone on.

651
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: It's a lot of times on silent um, but it's

652
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: always on vibrate, it's never off. And people always ask

653
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: me like, oh, man, like when can you turn your

654
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: phone off? And I'm like, it's actually more stressful to

655
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: turn my phone off. It really is. Because let's say

656
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm on vacation and I'm in Hawaii, which I haven't

657
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: been to in like ten years. But let's just say

658
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I'm in Hawaii and I'm on the beach and my

659
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: phone buzzes, like I can tweet something real fast and

660
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: be done with it. But what's way more stressful is

661
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: turning my phone off and being like, I don't know

662
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: what came like it would be anything like if I

663
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: or if I'm on vacation and I get some news,

664
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Speaker 1: I can call one of my colleagues and like, hey,

665
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: chase this down, but turn the phone off. Like that's

666
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: just stress, man. And I'm trying. This job is stressful enough.

667
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying everything I can to sort of alleviate some

668
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: of the stress. You go from being a guy in

669
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Speaker 1: New York, guy in East Coast to living in Starkville, Mississippi.

670
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: Is that a culture shock for you? Um? It was. Um,

671
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really liked the South. And my

672
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: wife's from Mississippi. I met her there when I was

673
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Speaker 1: living in Starfield. She was a student Mississippi State. UM.

674
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Speaker 1: And I So when I took the job, I told

675
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Speaker 1: the editors I only took the job under the agreement

676
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Speaker 1: that I would live in the college town, which seems normal,

677
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: but at the time they never had that before. It

678
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: was a Jackson newspaper, Jackson Claren Ledger, so all the

679
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: writers lived in Jackson. Drove up two hours, reported and

680
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: drove back. I'm like, no, I want to be immersed

681
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: in this culture, this team. I want to live there. Uh.

682
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: And I did. And it was a small town. They

683
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: got like three bars and restaurants. Um. And like when

684
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm waiting online for things, my turn is up. When

685
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: it's up, you know, like in New York, you're like,

686
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: come on, I got this, like bagel coming, you know,

687
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: like I got things too, like like four appointments, like

688
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: let's go in Mississippi, your turn is up. Whenever they

689
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: say it's up's almost I mean, it's just it's to tie.

690
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: The clock is different, you know. And Uh, it's like

691
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: people talk to you online and when they say, like,

692
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: you know, how you doing, they like actually want to know, right,

693
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: And they wave at you just driving what're going on?

694
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: In New York, what's going on is like what do

695
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: you want? In South, it's like what actually is happening?

696
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: So I think you used to just like talking to

697
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: random people that I didn't know. Um, I loved it though.

698
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: The food is great, people are awesome. UM. I lived

699
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,839
Speaker 1: in the South five years of Starkville in Tuscaloosa. UM,

700
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: and I would, you know, for the right situation, I

701
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: would definitely move back. I want to talk about Tuscaloosa

702
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: for a second. And we have just a couple of

703
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: minutes left. But you covered Saban and Belichick separately. Uh.

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Speaker 1: A lot has been made of their friendship or their

705
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: professional friendship and some of both. But what can you

706
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: what are the similarities between those two working with them

707
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: separately independently, and then how are they different? Uh? Similarities? What?

708
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: Both of them are crazy because they could stand in

709
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: the field, stand on the sideline. A game goes by

710
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: with seventy players and you could ask them, both of them.

711
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: They both can do it about a specific player on

712
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: a specific play and just watching the game from the sidelines,

713
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: they can tell you what that player did. It is bonkers.

714
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,800
Speaker 1: So you'll be like, uh, Nick, on that touchdown, you know,

715
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: the left tackle looked like he kinda like, oh yeah,

716
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: he got outside his guy, he pinned him in and

717
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: that sprung the run and you're like, god, how did

718
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: you see that? But they both can do it so

719
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: football wise, and it's it's wild because they can tell

720
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: you what everyone did on a certain player, what they're

721
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: supposed to do, what the player was before and after,

722
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: and what happened. It's like beyond crazy to me. Um

723
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: both of them are really good at explaining football to idiots,

724
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: and by that I mean reporters. Um So I like

725
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: like Belichick specifically, but say we would do too. But

726
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: Belichick specifically, if you ask him a football thing, who

727
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: really tell you like you will explain to you in

728
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: a way that is like palatable, which I always thought

729
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: was so cool. Um, they're different in that Bill is

730
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: the was disciplined person, really person that I've ever met.

731
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: He will go into a press conference and if he

732
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: doesn't want to say something, you're not getting it out

733
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: of him. Like he and I got along for a

734
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 1: lot of reasons. I think one of the reasons was

735
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: I knew I was never prying injury news from his lips.

736
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: Wasn't gonna happen. So if you don't want to say it,

737
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: I'd asked him. Once, I move on and we talked

738
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: about other stuff, because you can't force anyone to say anything.

739
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: With Saban, you kind of can. Um, you ask him

740
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: over and over and he'll lose discipline and he'll just

741
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: kind of say whatever. So I could go and do

742
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: a Belichick press conference and know what I'm getting, and

743
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: I would go into a Saving press conference and it

744
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: could literally be anything. It could be. I told you,

745
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that. What do you

746
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: want men to say? This guy got suspended and I'm

747
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: disciplining him here here and here and here' who we're

748
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: gonna replace him with? I'm not just gonna do that,

749
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: I know, but just so different there. Um, both are

750
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: just fascinating to cover and get to know. Which one

751
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: do you think you'd be better friends with in real

752
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: life if it was just friendship? Um? Probably Belichick because

753
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: he can turn it off a little better. Like you know,

754
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: I like I'll run into Bill, like, say it the

755
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: combine or something, and I want to talk about football,

756
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: but instead we'll talking about horse racing for forty five minutes.

757
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: Like Saban doesn't really do that when he's business. Bill

758
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,280
Speaker 1: kind of does. That's a little different. You guys follow

759
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: in at rap sheet on Twitter and Instagram and all

760
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: over NFL network. Hey, big fan of your work, Just

761
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: to appreciate the hustle and the inside and thank you

762
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: for spending some time with us today. No, thank you

763
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 1: for having me. This is really cool. And if nothing else,

764
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: I get to look at my own picture for about

765
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: twenty two minutes, so that was pretty cool. Yeah, it's

766
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: for them to not just one four with all a

767
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,840
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Speaker 1: ESPN for you know, ever, when I was a it

794
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,960
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795
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: He tells me the story about when he got the

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00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,640
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797
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,000
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798
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,240
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799
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 1: and it was just super cool to talk to Rich Eisen.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed this final interview. One of my

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00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: favorites from the year here is Rich Eisen. Massive fan

802
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: and have been for a whole long time. And I

803
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: watch you if I listen to your podcast. Each hour

804
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Speaker 1: is loaded separately, so I try to I'm a big fan.

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00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: If you can't tell I know all the nuances of

806
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: the Rich Eisen show, um, but I have the Roku

807
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 1: app that I can watch you guys on You've had

808
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: to transition a bit with all the new technologies. You know,

809
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 1: you have an eleven year old son too, does he

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Speaker 1: help you stay on what to what's what's called? And

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Speaker 1: uh and a nine and they are. It's amazing because

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00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: back when I was a kid, you know, back when

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Speaker 1: I was a kid, um, it would be what's on

814
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 1: channels two, four and seven? Right? Uh? Now they know

815
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Speaker 1: what's on an app and they get pissed at me

816
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: when I when I go to try and search for

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00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: anything on the old Roku device, they're like, Dad, that's

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Speaker 1: on Paramount plus, Dad that's on It's on Disney like

819
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: and they and and they say it with such scorn. Um.

820
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: I don't understand it, um, but that's you know, I

821
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: take it, I absorb it, and I try to get

822
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: better every day. That's why I have this sign on

823
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: my desk every day. I don't know if anybody's ever

824
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: gonna try to take this away from me, the best

825
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: at ever, but you know that's I'm in my hopefully

826
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Speaker 1: uh fourteenth consecutive year of that title run that I'm on.

827
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Speaker 1: I want to talk about getting the call, like the

828
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Speaker 1: big call, and you know, I just knowing your history,

829
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Speaker 1: you know, just being you know, a sports anchor and

830
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 1: reporterback at a local station, but moving up to ESPN

831
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: when you got the call that we want you at ESPN.

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Speaker 1: Where were you and what what was actually said on

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Speaker 1: the call? So I was in Redding, California, UM at

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Speaker 1: the ABC local affiliate k r c R Television, and

835
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Speaker 1: I sent a tape to a headhunter, UM three of

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Speaker 1: them across the United States. I was twenty five years

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Speaker 1: old this and I'm like, you know, I was there

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00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: for a year. I'm like, what does it matter, It's

839
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Speaker 1: just first class postage. I'll send these tapes out. So

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00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: the sender tapes out to a head hunter and I

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Speaker 1: get a phone call, uh at home from the head

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Speaker 1: hunter who says to me, I've got a very interesting

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Speaker 1: and interesting bite. A big time shop is interested in

844
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: more of your works than the best written material. Another

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00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: tape sent, another table, and then I go to work

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Speaker 1: one day and UM, it's a a phone where it

847
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Speaker 1: would ring once, one loud ring if it was a

848
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Speaker 1: local call, and a ring ring if it was outside

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Speaker 1: of the area code. I mean again, this is and

850
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: whenever it would ring ring, it would it would be

851
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: my parents or my brother because I'm from New York

852
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: City and they lived in New Jersey and my brother

853
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: was in southern California. So it never would. Ring ring

854
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,320
Speaker 1: twice and ring ring, and I pick up the phone

855
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: and it was an agent named Henry Reich from the

856
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: William Mars Talent Agency, saying he wanted my real immediately

857
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: because I was the hottest up and coming sportscaster in

858
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: America according to him and what he had been hearing.

859
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, because I'm about to go

860
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 1: drive fifty miles into the Shasta Mountain Range to try

861
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: and cover a local high school volleyball game with my

862
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: three quarter inch camera connected with a coaxial cable to

863
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: the deck with a huge you know, uh strap over

864
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: my other shoulder, one man banning the whole thing, and

865
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: so um, I'm not feeling very hot. He goes send

866
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: me to tape. Great, hang up the phone, call my

867
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: brother up, and I'm like, you'll never guess what just happened.

868
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 1: I tell him. He goes get out of here, no Kiden.

869
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that's just tapping, hanging the phone up,

870
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Ring ring, and another one and this isn't five minutes

871
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: of each other. And I'm like, watch, I am such hot.

872
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: That's ESPN on the phone, And sure enough it was

873
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: a guy named Al Jaffey from ESPN, their head hunter,

874
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: who I had sent multiple unsolicited tapes and resumes too

875
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: over the previous five year period, and it was him

876
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: telling me that he had gotten my tape. They really

877
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: like it and they want to set up an interview

878
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: in an audition. And I thought it was my brother

879
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: telling all of my friends back home call Rich say

880
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: you're Al Jaffee sending all that, and I thought it

881
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 1: was all my friends trying to mother, you know, and

882
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: um it was not. It was the real deal guy.

883
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: And I almost cursed him out, thinking it was a friend,

884
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: like who are you? But it was really him and UM.

885
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: I flew down to Los Angeles a few weeks later

886
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: to UH to interview UM I did with a whole

887
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: bunch of executives that were there for the Cable Ace Awards,

888
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: which no longer exist. And then a few weeks later

889
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the gig um on a Monday after

890
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: by the way, a snowstorm prevented me from getting halfway

891
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: across the country in the initial time of auditioning, so

892
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: it was a long wait, a lot of ups and downs,

893
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: but I got the gig after auditioning with Al Jaffee

894
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: And that's my story. Did you ever have imposter syndrome

895
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: or at any time do you have impostor syndrome while

896
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: you were there, especially the early days. What do you

897
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: mean like you're like, Okay, I'm probably not at the level.

898
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: Do they think I am. I'm about to do this

899
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: and I'm not really that good? Oh? My first sports

900
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 1: Center was with Larry Beale was the Sports Center anchor.

901
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 1: He's now out in uh northern California, And um it

902
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: was this is before ESPN News, so I was the

903
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: last guy that they hired that they threw directly on

904
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: Sports Center and um so ESPN News what they would

905
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: put guys and gals on to get their teeth cut

906
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: and get up to speed. So, um I I just

907
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: remember it was a half hour sports center in the

908
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: on the on the round of thirty two day I believe,

909
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: or it was a sweet sixteen was the all of March,

910
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: so it's probably a round of thirty two day and

911
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: we I had eleven highlights that had only seen one

912
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: of them. So they were gonna hand me ten paperwork

913
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: shot sheets with it where you could follow along what's

914
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: written there, uh to to know what the highlights were um,

915
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: and I would have to add lib the whole damn thing.

916
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 1: And I remember walking downstairs and saying to myself, I

917
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: have two choices. I can either pee down my leg

918
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: or I could just suck it up and say I'm

919
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: ready for this. And I think I did both, um,

920
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: And it was wild um. And I just looked around

921
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: and the people that were in the news room where

922
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: all the anchors who I had emulated or wanted to emulate,

923
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 1: or had watched for years and what made me want

924
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: to be a SportsCenter anchor, And they were automatically my colleagues,

925
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 1: and um, it was overwhelming, no question about it. Keith

926
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 1: Olberman and Dan Patrick and Kilbourne and you know, Robin

927
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 1: Roberts and Dave you know, uh, Charlie Starner, Bob Lee.

928
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: I mean, my god, these are all the people that

929
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: I was now colleagues with. It was overwhelming, but you know,

930
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: I was aged six, Um, but it's time in my

931
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: life seven years met my wife there. My children are

932
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: ESPN babies because of that. Technically and unbelievable, what a run.

933
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: I watch a lot of your your work with the Draft,

934
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: and I wonder what people being a big fan of

935
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: you people admiring what you do do you sometimes get

936
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot of inside information that you can't share. Like

937
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: there's a fine line of things you know and things

938
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: you can actually say. Yeah, I mean yeah, but I

939
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think I'm I do this thing

940
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: to break news, you know. And I say that having

941
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: a journalism degree from Northwestern, I know that that that

942
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 1: that's not something you want to say. I think I'm

943
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm here to just kind of guide everyone through what

944
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm hearing and understand what I can say what I

945
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: don't say. You know, I'm not schefter, I mud Ian Rappaport,

946
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: my colleague at the NFL network, That's not That's not

947
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,439
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. If I hear something that can break something,

948
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: I will do that. But um, you know a great

949
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,360
Speaker 1: for instance, is it prior to the draft? All I

950
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: heard this is the draft in Dallas that it went

951
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald, Josh Allen, uh, Josh Rosen

952
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: and then Lamar Jackson was the last quarterback. That was

953
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: the quarterback draft of We had heard quite a bit

954
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 1: on this show, um from people who we spoke to

955
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: off camera and what I heard at the combine leading up.

956
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 1: We heard a lot that Russell Wilson was in play.

957
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: We're like, you get out of here, like what the hell?

958
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 1: Um really? And um, you know, we didn't say anything,

959
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 1: which is good because Russell didn't get traded. But now

960
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: we found out literally in the week before his home

961
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: opener in Seattle, as a member of the Broncos, he

962
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: let it be known that they did try to trade

963
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: him trade him prior to So what we heard was

964
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: actually accurate. But had we said it, we would have

965
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: created this huge stir um or or I shouldn't say that.

966
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: What I say it's a huge stir I shouldn't say that.

967
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: I would just say that we would have definitely put

968
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: something out there that might have gained attention potentially significantly,

969
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: that would have been inaccurate, even though it was accurate. Um,

970
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: And I don't like to traffic in those waters. I

971
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: would just prefer to kind of make you smarter by

972
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: by talking about the things that I think are going

973
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: to happen, not what I'm hearing could happen like that.

974
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: That is not what I like to traffic in. You've

975
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: been running that the forty for a bunch of years, now,

976
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: are you ever gonna hit a time where you're like,

977
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta stop. If you had like a

978
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: seven seven seconds, are you gonna go like I need

979
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: to pass this down. Let my son do it now, No, Bobby.

980
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: If I if I need a walker, that's when I'll

981
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: stop and actual help you know, UM doing that. But

982
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: to be very um straightforward with you again, UM, yeah,

983
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: there is like at some point, UM, I don't think

984
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: people want to watch some guy run, you know, with

985
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: a limp and do something UM particularly bad. My wife

986
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: wants me to train for it. Um, and UM, I

987
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I go back and forth like

988
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: should I really really train for it? Like it was

989
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: sort of like an everyman approach where just like it's

990
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: just anybody coming off the couch and running it. But

991
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 1: now maybe UM as again fifty three, perhaps me training

992
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: for it could be UM could be uh uh I

993
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: guess an example to people who are advancing UM to

994
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: stay in shape. And maybe that's another aspect of it

995
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: that I need to focus on because the reason why

996
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I do it now and don't want to give it

997
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: up is because of the fundraising aspect for St. Jude

998
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,840
Speaker 1: Children's Research Hospital. Um. But it has been you know,

999
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: amazing it's the as you can see here the logo

1000
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: of my show and what so many people do associate

1001
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: me with. And it was born, like many things in television,

1002
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: out of complete boredom waiting to shoot television show. As

1003
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: I was sitting next to Terrell Davis under the buzz

1004
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: of the old r C a him which got blown

1005
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: to Smith of reens for the new stadium in Indianapolis,

1006
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: where he said, Uh, I said, how fast do you

1007
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: think I can run the forty? He laughed at me.

1008
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 1: I cursed at him and went down and ran it.

1009
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: Had no idea that the NFL network crew on a

1010
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 1: break was actually recording it. They played it back as

1011
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: a surprise to me on live TV and it kind

1012
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: of got a life in the zone that still lives today. Well, Rich,

1013
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. I'm a big fan, like again,

1014
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: and if you guys have Roku or Roku channel, which

1015
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: I have the Roku app and I'm able to catch

1016
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: Rich on a listen listening on podcast as well. Uh.

1017
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 1: One of the interviews that I really enjoyed was when

1018
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 1: you talk to the guys that do the town halls,

1019
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: the Chad Kroeger, the you know when you went and

1020
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: you were like, hey, because they go into these town

1021
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 1: hall meetings and like propose water towers named after Britney Spear. Like,

1022
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: I thought that was such a funny interview. And I'll

1023
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: end with this, because you are interviewing celebrities and athletes,

1024
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 1: have you had to change your style or research a

1025
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: bit more because your interviews are a bit different now? Well,

1026
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, I've got a great um for auction team

1027
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: that that's stuck with me and this show through the

1028
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: pandemic and through many different partners. Hopefully the Roku Journal's

1029
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: the last switch that I make. UM, and I appreciate

1030
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: that you you got a Roku device just to keep watching.

1031
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. But we we we dig in to

1032
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: see if there is a celebrity sports cross section, because

1033
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: that's the idea of this show is, you know, uh,

1034
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: that sports is a touchdown of pop culture just as

1035
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: much as movies and television. Um, the greatest sporting event

1036
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 1: that the that the American sports scene puts on and exports,

1037
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,360
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is stopped in the middle for a

1038
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: rock concert and nobody bats an eyelash anymore. So it

1039
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: really is something that I love to put together and

1040
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled that the folks at Roku and the Roku

1041
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: channel are into it too. So whenever celebrity comes on,

1042
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 1: we see, you know, did they play sports or if

1043
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: they're a die hard fan of the team, happy to

1044
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: dive in and let them be a pundit um and

1045
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 1: and give opinions, because I think when a celebrity who's

1046
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: into that uh comes in to promote his or her

1047
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 1: movie or television show or music or album, they prefer

1048
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 1: to talk about that rather than the funny story from

1049
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: their vacation. Um. And then there are some celebrities who

1050
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: don't know sports very well and are deathly afraid that

1051
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: if they come on it'll be like if you saw

1052
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 1: the movie Diner, where um, you know, one of the

1053
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: characters won't get married to his fiance unless she passes

1054
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: a quiz on the Baltimore Cult successfully. They feel like

1055
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,879
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do with them or to them,

1056
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: which is the worst thing for a host to do.

1057
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: So I try to make it comfortable and just talk

1058
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: about their movie or TV history and um. So we've

1059
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: got to, as I said, a terrific crew that we

1060
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: put together here and we all, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: really like each other. Um that we we come with

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Speaker 1: a segment called Celebrity True or False where we just

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Speaker 1: go through their history about well, this story was on

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Speaker 1: the internet, this story was on your IMDb page? Is

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Speaker 1: it true or false about your TV show or you

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Speaker 1: about your your your movies. And it's just a great

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Speaker 1: way and fans eat it up, thank goodness. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we had Henry Winkler on the other month and we

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Speaker 1: talked to about Jump the Shark. UM. We had um,

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Speaker 1: you know, Gerald McCraney here the other day. UM, from

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Speaker 1: so many terrific shows. We asked them about Major Dad.

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Speaker 1: And that's what I love to do, just having people

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Speaker 1: from across the pop culture landscape talk about their movies

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Speaker 1: and TV. So yes, my long winded answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: there is a lot more research that goes into it,

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Speaker 1: but you put up a production constructor to place it in.

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Speaker 1: And not only is it um something enjoyable to watch

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Speaker 1: and listen to live, it's very consumable on an on

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Speaker 1: demand podcast or YouTube or YouTube page. UM YouTube dot com.

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Speaker 1: Slash Rich Eyes and Show has twenty eight thousand video

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Speaker 1: u from our near eight year history on it. And

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Speaker 1: so yeah, I do love having celebrities on and and

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Speaker 1: and it does require a little bit more help. Certainly,

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Speaker 1: if you mentioned Chat and t J, they come on

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Speaker 1: and drop the word paraneum for the first time in

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Speaker 1: my show's history. Listen, big fan you guys follow at

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Speaker 1: Rich Eisen at Rich Eyes and show Roku uh As

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Speaker 1: as you say, now you'll be announcing a serious channel

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Speaker 1: really soon, Radio Like I'm a total fanboy, you know.

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Speaker 1: I'll admit it now that it's over, and I've admitted

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Speaker 1: it six times during But just keep doing it and

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Speaker 1: I'll be listening every day and hopefully I'll meet you

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Speaker 1: in real life sometime soon. Rich. Thanks a lot. When

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Speaker 1: you're back here in Los Angeles after waking up at

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Speaker 1: one in the morning and you're done with your show,

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Speaker 1: you come in here and sit next to me. We'll

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Speaker 1: have a chat, all right, buddy, Thank you, see you later.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to my favorites here From twenty five Whistles,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank all the guests we've had throughout

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Speaker 1: football season and make sure you subscribe to twenty five

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Speaker 1: Whistles to stay up to date on future guests on

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Speaker 1: the show as we head into the new year. Just

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Speaker 1: go follow twenty five Whistles wherever you podcast and at

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Speaker 1: twenty five Whistles on Instagram and me at Mr Bobby Bones.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening. I hope you had a great New

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Speaker 1: Year and we'll see you, or I hope you have

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Speaker 1: a great New year, depending when this airs or when

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Speaker 1: you hear it, because it could be both, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see in unless you hear this in late for some

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Speaker 1: weird reason, when you're listening back, you're see in twenty four,

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Speaker 1: all right, by everybody.