1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to stuff you should know from how Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Clark and there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, Jerry's over there. 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: So that makes this stuff amazing. Animal Edition, Yes, a 5 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: special request fulfilled Animal Edition. Yeah, we should tell the story. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: Huh oh yeah, for sure. I guess there's no way 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: we can not tell the story because it's the cutest 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: thing that's happened in a long time. It really is. Um. So, 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: we did a show in Vancouver on uh September something, right, 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: in real time, it was last week for us. We 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: usually don't turn stuff around this fast, right, exactly. Um. 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: And a lot of times we'll do Q and A 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: after a show because we're like, the podcast isn't enough. 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: We ope people more than that, so we'll do a 15 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Q and A. Right, that's right. And the last question 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: of the of the night was this cute little girl 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: just adorable and her name was Mika. Wasn't it yeah? Okay, 18 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: and Mika had a special request Chuck him what was it? Well, 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: it kind of went down like this. Mieka's dad walks 20 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: her up to the microphone. Everyone turns their attention to 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,479 Speaker 1: this adorable six year old and in front of what 22 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: was it like a thousand and twelve people, she said, 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: can you do a podcast on your raff's and twelve 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: hundred hearts melted and immediately like afterwards, you were and 25 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: I were like, well, we're doing this as soon as 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 1: we get back. Yeah, that's right, and this this is 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: where we're at. We did it. Yeah, and you know 28 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: what it's Uh, Mika, you were not alone because giraffes 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: are amazing, as you will see in greater detail. Uh, 30 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: and you're not alone among your peers because I gotta 31 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: tell you as the father of a two year old daughter, uh, 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: and Jerry as the mom of a two year old, 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: they're all obsessed with giraffes. Yeah, it's true. You Me 34 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: and I started our niece Mila actually off on giraffes 35 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: pretty early. Yeah. And and like there's there's some of 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the most adorable stuffed animals are toys around. So I 37 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: mean it's understandable how it would stick any kids crawl 38 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 1: like that. Well yeah, I mean they look, uh, nothing 39 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: like things that they've seen yet enough like things they've seen, 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: I think at that age to where they think, well 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 1: I've seen a horse or a horse, or I've seen 42 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: a zebra, but this is I've seen a camel even, 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: and those things look a little weird. But then a 44 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: giraffe comes along, and small minds are blown. They are 45 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: blown so much that I suspect that they're giraffes in 46 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: the little angel holding bay where babies stay before they 47 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: come down here to And yes, they want to say 48 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: small minds, it's not to say children are small minded. No, No, 49 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: like maybe literally small minded, but not in the figure 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: to adult sense physiologically speaking. There you go, right, So 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: everybody knows what giraffes are. You can point to a 52 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: picture of a giraffe and say what is this, and 53 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: the person will say it's a giraffe. It's a pretty 54 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: common thing to do. Maybe the arguably the best Charlie 55 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: Harper illustration of all time is the mother and baby 56 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,639 Speaker 1: giraffe snuggling. Look it up. I'll send it to You're 57 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: gonna love it. It's just adorable. Um, So everyone's quite 58 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: familiar with drafts, but giraffes are one of those animals 59 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: that we found from our research are just taken for granted. 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: Like everyone's like, everyone's like, look at those things are amazing, 61 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: but let's just leave it at that. Apparently it was 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: how science approached giraffes for millennia. Basically, Yeah, in fact, uh, 63 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: these evolutionary wonders, and boy aren't they like in every 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: sense of the word. Uh. For many many millennia, human 65 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: dum dums referred to these an moles as camel leopards, right, 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: with a tidy little hyphen in between the two, to 67 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: really show that they had clearly a camel and a 68 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: leopard had gotten it on at some point and created 69 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: the giraffe. Yeah, which I mean, it makes a little 70 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: bit of sense. They are sort of camel like with 71 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: their necks and their kind of long legs and hoofs. 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: But then also you look at the giraffe's coat and 73 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: that amazing leopard like pattern. So it sort of makes 74 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: sense that human dumb dumbs would say stuff like that, right, 75 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: because they didn't understand evolution. And even like Mr. Evolution himself, 76 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: Charles Darwin was like, I'm not even getting into the 77 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: giraffe for a while, right, the giraffe debate, Yeah, so 78 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: he he um. He started waiting into where the giraffe 79 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: got its neck, because by the time Darwin came along. 80 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: They had said, okay, we're they're not camel leopards. We 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: know that much, all right, everybody stopped making one of us. Um. 82 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: But also, let's give it a scientific name, giraffa gamelo 83 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: part alice. Yeah, which is a nod to the dumb 84 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: dumbs of your right. So, by the time Darwin got 85 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: in on on this, he had written on the origin 86 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: of the species. Um. But it was the sixth edition 87 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: before the giraffe makes an appearance in it. Yeah, I'm 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: sure Mika has already read that. Sure, that's where that's 89 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: why she was asking. She was hoping we could expound 90 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: on that. So um. Darwin suggested that potentially the giraffe's 91 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 1: neck evolved because in times of drought or famine, where 92 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: other animals were starving and dropping like flies, the giraffe 93 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: neck gave it an advantage to reach leaves on trees 94 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: that other animals couldn't. So it was quite quite literally 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: rising above the competition natural selection wise, right, Yeah, and 96 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: that that's got to be it, right. Well, one of 97 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: the reasons that one of the issues that's raised against 98 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 1: it is that giraffe still feed at the same level 99 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: as other animals like a pretty significant amount of the time, 100 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: I guess, so they're like some for me and I'll 101 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: have some of yours too. Yeah, I don't know. I 102 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: can't think of any other reason it makes complete sense. Well, 103 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: there's another guy, Jean Baptiste Lamark, who was pretty credible 104 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: as far as old timey scientists go. Um, and Lamarck said, 105 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I think they're an antelope that just stretches its neck 106 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: further and further and further. And he lost all credibility. 107 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: But that's there's still there. They're not entirely certain what 108 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: precisely it is that gave the giraffe it's neck, um, 109 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: because you don't you don't see that elsewhere in nature. 110 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: It's not an adaptation that that is pretty common, like 111 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: eyes or hearing or flight. It's its own thing, um 112 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. But there are some other 113 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: long neck animals like swans or something like that. But 114 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: you're aft are mammals and aside from that really long 115 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: neck and a couple of other things that they've had 116 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: to um change uh or adapt to because of their 117 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: long neck and other features. Um, they're they're nothing like 118 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: other long necked animals. Yeah, that's right. And the long 119 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: neck club they stand alone exactly, all right, So let's start, um, 120 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: let's start with classification and taxonomy and that kind of thing, 121 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: because that's you know, that sort of lays the ground 122 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: work for what we're talking about here, uh, technically speaking, 123 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: drafts or what you would call an even toad undulate, 124 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: which is kind of a fancy way of saying. They 125 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: have just to weight bearing hoofs on each foot like 126 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: a camel in there, right, yeah, I believe so not 127 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: a leopard though, No, No, a leopard with hosts would 128 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: not be much of a leopard, let's be honest. Uh. 129 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: And they are in an order called R. T O 130 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: dactyla uh, and that does include the antelope, to be fair, 131 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: but also includes things like sheep and moose and hippo's cows, 132 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: cows pigs a little weirdly but maybe not because they 133 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: have the little hoofs. Uh. What else? Well? There, So 134 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: their family is giraffe Ada, and in the giraffe a family, 135 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: there's two genera, right, yes, there's the Giraffea genus and 136 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: the Ocapia genus. And they they split they think now 137 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: about eleven million years ago and still today you can 138 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: walk around in Africa and find the okapi. But the 139 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: O copy looks way more like it's related to a 140 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: horse or a zebra than it does to a giraffe. Right, Yeah, 141 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: did you see those things? Yeah, I've seen them before. 142 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: They're they're pretty neat. They're like, um, chocolate colored with 143 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,719 Speaker 1: like zebra striped legs. Yeah, it literally looks like it's 144 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: an animal. That said, I don't know what I want 145 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: to be. I like you guys. I like you guys, 146 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: So I really would just like to sort of both 147 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: of you. Right, is this social butterfly? It's very pretty animal. 148 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 1: And then over in the giraffe genus, they they there's 149 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: basically one species as far as anyone is concerned. So 150 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: like any giraffe you ever see, even if it looks 151 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: different from all the other giraffes, you see, it was 152 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: the species um Giraffa Camela pardals like you said, right, um. 153 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: But there's a two thousand and sixteen study that was 154 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: carried up by the Giraffe Conservation Foundation and it was 155 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: published in the journal Current Biology, and they said, you know, 156 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: all these little subspecies that we've been saying are actually 157 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: the same species of giraffe. There is just variations. They're 158 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: actually different species. There's four giraffe species. Yeah, but that's 159 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: not the like that study was just last year and 160 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 1: now they're saying that that's not the case. So uh 161 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: oh is that right? Well, and't that what it says? 162 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: It said? Uh well, I think it's more like the 163 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: wheels of biological science as the academic field moves slowly. Okay, 164 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: so they're they're findings are supposedly legitimate, but they're just 165 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: not saying. They didn't put the stamp of authenticity on it. 166 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: Not yet. Okay, they probably will in the future, but 167 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: they're like, just just give us some time. We just 168 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: made some tea as scientists or one to do. So 169 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: let's do you wanna take a break? All right, We'll 170 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: take a break and crane our necks up and get 171 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: some some food to sustain ourselves and then talk a 172 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: little bit about these awesome, awesome necks right after this. Okay, chuck. 173 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: So there was not a lot of study in the 174 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: field of giraffes. Everybody was just like, that's neat. Giraffes 175 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: are cool. Let's just leave it at that, especially in 176 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: the field specifically like out in their natural habitat. They 177 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: weren't studied, um killed by poachers, but not necessarily studied. Right, 178 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: So most of the understanding we had of giraffes was 179 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: of captive giraffes that were being held hostage and zoos, right, 180 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: but from those we got like a pretty decent amount 181 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,839 Speaker 1: of at least anatomical understanding of them. Yeah, and I mean, 182 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: we just have to add this to the list of 183 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: the jellyfish and the octopus. Um, what bats? What else 184 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: are we forgetting? Oh man, there's just one another one 185 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: that we did. We did one recently, I guess frogs. Yeah, 186 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: like all animals. Yeah, any animal we cover we find fascinating. 187 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: You notice we haven't done one on the common house cat. No, 188 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: we probably should though, because I'm I'm a cat lover. 189 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: I feel like that would be like doing an episode 190 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: on gamers, like just inviting trouble, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, 191 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: I mean I love cats, of course I do. But 192 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: I just don't know that it's like in the same 193 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: category as an octopus when it comes to amazement and astonishment. 194 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: That's true, you know. Although we did speak about them 195 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: for a while and uh the what was it? Domestic 196 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: Animals episode Tommy, Yeah, I think so, you spoken and 197 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: of course talks a plasmosis. Oh yeah, weird. It's ugly head, 198 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: all right, because like, get back to it, guys, I 199 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: don't really care about that stuff. I hate cats. Uh 200 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: So they are the tallest living animal in the world. 201 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: And it says in here and this is kind of 202 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: reminded me of something that a draft can look in 203 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: at second story window and um, I just saw recently. 204 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,479 Speaker 1: I had no idea this existed, but giraffe manner in Nairobi, 205 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: there are this is a hotel and it is a 206 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: uh it's what do you call it? Not I mean, 207 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: they'd work with conservation but um an eco lodge. Well, 208 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: I guess it's that too, but it's uh, I can't 209 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: think of the right name. But what it is, it's 210 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: a it's a hotel and they work to help giraffes 211 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: that are in trouble and help to introduce troubled giraffes 212 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: into the wilds like a home for juvenile delinquent giraffes. Yeah, 213 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: and like a rehabilitation center. Um and I just saw 214 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: this for the first time a couple of weeks ago. 215 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: And there are pictures of people dining and eating in 216 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: a second story window and giraffes sticking their heads right 217 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: through them and eating fruit off a plate and people 218 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: just thinking I'm getting cheated out on my breakfast and 219 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: it's the best time I can remember that happening. So 220 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: it's amazing. And now I want to, uh, like, I 221 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: think Emily and I are gonna try and go on 222 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: a safari. So we're dying to go on a safari. 223 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: I just need to find out a good one that's 224 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: like ecologically sound. And I don't know anything about safari, 225 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: so I don't know if they're like bad or they're good, 226 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: or if they're good ones and bad ones, but I'm 227 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna check it out, and we're definitely gonna 228 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: go stay in the hotel. The first question I think 229 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: you want to ask of a safari operators, do you 230 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: use cattle prods? Yeah? That's oh, I'm sure some people 231 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: do for sure. Yeah, And hey, if anyone knows of 232 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: like a really sustainable, well uh, well done safari, let 233 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: me know. Sure, we're in the market. So what is 234 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: it called giraffe manner? Okay? So yeah, they can um, 235 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: they are just super tall and the reason why they're 236 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: super taller. There's two reasons. One is obviously their neck. 237 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: Their neck alone is like six ft long, right, and 238 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: there again, there are other long necked animals out there 239 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: in nature, like swans, but mammals are Giraffes are mammals, 240 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: and they have the same number of cervical vertebrae um 241 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: that other mammals do. They're just really big cervical ver 242 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: to break. Right, So each vertebra um of a giraffe's 243 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: neck is about eleven inches in length. That's crazy. And 244 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: there's seven of them and you put them all together 245 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: and you've got about a six ft long neck. Yes, 246 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: but they also have really long legs too that are 247 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: also about six ft long. Yeah, So six foot long legs, 248 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: six ft long neck, and you have giraffes female because 249 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: they still have other body parts. Females can grow up 250 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: to fourteen feet way about fifteen hundred pounds, and males 251 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: can grow up to eighteen ft tall and way about 252 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 1: three thousand pounds. Yeah, for males it's like five and 253 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: a half meters tall, and so they're big. They're big, 254 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: big animals. But they're also known as like gentle giants too, 255 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: like they're not very violent animals, as we'll see true. 256 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: Although if you're into the sweet giraffe, do not look 257 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: up videos of male giraffe s fighting. I know it's disturbing. 258 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: It's very disturbing, and you just want to think like, 259 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: oh man, you guys should just always like each other, 260 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Like why do friends fight? Pretty much? Yeah? Um, so 261 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: part of being tall like this, it presents some amazing 262 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: evolutionary traits and some challenges that thankfully the draft has overcome. 263 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: They have Let's let's talk about their nerve cells. If 264 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: you've got a neck that long, you're gonna everything is 265 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: just stretched out. So there, for instance, their recurrent uh 266 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: laryngeal nerve, which this activates their larynx helps them in 267 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: swallowing because they're gonna need little help swallowing down that 268 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: long neck. That thing is fifteen ft long in itself, 269 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: because it starts in the brain, goes down the neck, 270 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: and then loops back up to the throat. Right, And 271 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: we have one of those two and it's actually pointed 272 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: to is proof that it's evolution not creation that UM 273 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: accounts for us because it's just such a poor work 274 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: around UM. But it's it's fifteen ft long in giraffes, right, 275 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: So it's a nerve fiber. Um nerve fibers are made 276 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: of bundled nerve cells. So that means that if you 277 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: separated these things, if you make made up of fifteen 278 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: foot long cells. Yeah, that's nuts, it really is. Is 279 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: that your fact of the show. There's about fifty of 280 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: those in here. I think you're right. Uh So, if 281 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: you've ever been to a a wildlife refuge that's the 282 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: word I was thinking of, um or a zoo, let's say, um, 283 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: and you've seen a giraffe up close and personal. The 284 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: one thing that you will notice, and some some zoos 285 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: will even have times a day where you can feed 286 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: the giraffes, which is pretty amazing. But the first thing 287 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 1: you'll probably notice, aside from their their neck when they 288 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: get up face to face, is aside from their friendly eyes, 289 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,119 Speaker 1: is the size of their tongue when they go licking stuff. 290 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: And they have a very active tongue that things always 291 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: moving around, it seems like. But these tongues are almost 292 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: two ft long. They can be twenty one inches in length. Yes, 293 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: and not only are they they long, they're also prehensile. 294 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: They have the ability to grasp things, as we'll see later. Right, right, 295 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: So there, they have enormous tongues, they have feet that 296 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: are about a foot across, about a third of a 297 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: meter across, right, Um, and their hearts, Chuck, I think 298 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: this might be the fact of the show for me. Well, 299 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 1: let me take it. Well, their hearts. If you talk 300 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: about a giraffe as a is a big hearted animal, 301 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: you can say that in every sense of the word, 302 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: because the heart of a giraffe is two ft long 303 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: and weighs about twenty pounds, which meek up for you. 304 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: It's eleven, that's right. So they have this huge heart 305 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, of course they have a huge heart. 306 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: You're dummy. It's a huge animal, that's true. But prepare 307 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: for this if you did based on body mass proportionately 308 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: a giraffe's organs, like it's a heart or its lungs 309 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: that can take in an enormous amount of air at 310 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: one time, twelve gallons. Right, they're not, they're they're not. 311 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: They're they're average. They're they're just about average in size. Right, 312 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: So the giraffe is actually faced with a couple of 313 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: issues here, right. If it's if its heart is proportionately speaking, 314 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: normal size, but its neck is way longer than other mammals. 315 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: It has an issue, and its legs are way longer 316 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: than other animals. Has a secondary issue. Right, so you 317 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: would think, well, it needs a huge heart, and it's 318 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: again though it's hard, is not proportionately up to the task. 319 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 1: So there's been other adaptations that the giraffe underwent over 320 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: time to to allow for it to not say faint 321 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: when it suddenly lifts its head up after drinking water, 322 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: or for blood not to collect and pool in its legs. Yeah, 323 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: it's pretty amazing. So the way this works is the 324 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,679 Speaker 1: heart of a giraffe, uh is really really thick, so 325 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: it has a very thick wall, and so that means 326 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: it can pump blood at a super high pressure about 327 00:19:57,240 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 1: five times that of a human heart. So that sort 328 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: of solves that problem. It gets blood going uh where 329 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,880 Speaker 1: it needs to go as effectively as possible. And then 330 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: they have a really tough coat and a tough hide. 331 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: And the way this article put it is it sort 332 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: of acts like a compression sock but around the whole body, 333 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: so that basically just helps the blood counteract the gravity 334 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: of pumping all the way up that long neck to 335 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: the brain, right exactly. It keeps it from just like 336 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: it keeps it also from collecting or pooling in places 337 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: that shouldn't. Just keeps everything running smoothly, you know, like 338 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: those big feet. Yeah, so it's pretty interesting stuff, right, agreed. Um, 339 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 1: And you were talking about the coat as well. And 340 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: one thing Um I saw in research is that the 341 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: jiraffe coat is unique to the individual like our fingerprints 342 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: or iris print is, which I hadn't really thought about, 343 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: which makes total sense. You know, giraffes are all unique 344 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: individual little flowers, snowflakes if you will, sure just good 345 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: giant liberal mammals. Uh, Mika, you can ask your dad 346 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: about that joke. So, uh, when you look at a draft, 347 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: you might have think like, well, yeah drafts, Um, they 348 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: all just sort of have the Maybe it's unique, but 349 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: the patterns are all basically the same, not exactly true. 350 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Depending on where the draff lives and what they eat. Uh, 351 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a different sort of pattern going on. 352 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: And then each one is unique into itself. So in Kenya, 353 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: the I'm gonna call it a Massai giraffe. Uh, they 354 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: have they have the pattern that look like the oak leaves, 355 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: very very pretty pattern, right. And then there's um Uganda giraffes. 356 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: They have like big large brown splotches um with uh 357 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: lines like lighter brown lines separating the splotches like a giraffe. 358 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: That's the one. You think of what I think of 359 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: when I think giraffes, I think of all the mins drafts. Uh. 360 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: Then there's the reticulated draft and this is only in 361 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:03,479 Speaker 1: northern Kenya. Evidently these have the darker coat and it 362 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: looks like a really narrow white lines all over their place. 363 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: But with all these is kind of like what are 364 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: you looking at? Are you looking at the spots or 365 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: the lines in between? Sure? Yeah, it's like an optical illusion. 366 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: And and the whole reason that the giraffes hide or 367 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: coat looks like that is because it's it's camouflage. Like 368 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: they're so big, there's really no way for them to 369 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: hide anywhere, so they hide in plain sight by blending 370 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: in with the trees that they eat. That's right. Uh. 371 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: There is also chuck. I don't know if you saw 372 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: this or not, but in Kenya again at the h 373 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: E Shock Beanie Heirolla conservancy, they found to all white 374 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 1: giraffes head to toe white. I think I've seen those. 375 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think they kind of became like an 376 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: internet hit recently. Um. And they say that they're not 377 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: albino giraffes. There's like a lesser um condition called lucism, 378 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: which really just kind of affects the skin and hair 379 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: and coat, but not like say the eyes or anything 380 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: like that. Um. But it's really cute. It's a mom 381 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: and her baby, and you know they're they're being watched, 382 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: probably more than other giraffes. Of the mom's kind of 383 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: like you stay here behind the bushes. Okay, Um, I'm 384 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,439 Speaker 1: gonna handle the photographs. But it's just cute to watch them. Like, 385 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: I love watching giraffes at all times. At all times, 386 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm watching him. I'm watching some right now. Uh So, diratte, 387 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: are they outside of our studio? Oh my gosh, how 388 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: wonderful would that be? You can't see them. They're looking 389 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: over your shoulder. I know I have my back to 390 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: the door. Uh So. Giraffes live in what are called 391 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Savannah's through sub Saharan Africa, and the weather there is 392 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: semi arid. They like um woodlands that are sort of 393 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: open have smatterings of trees and bushes. Uh, and that's 394 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: really kind of the best habitat for giraffes. Right. And lastly, 395 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: chuck um their eyes. Right, you said that their eyes 396 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: are adorable, and let's largely because of them. They're wonderful eyelashes. 397 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: But they also have um really large eyes and maybe 398 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: among the better vision of any land animals. Um. They 399 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: their peripheral vision is so good they can almost see 400 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: behind them. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah, and they can see 401 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: in color. They can see a long long way in 402 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,720 Speaker 1: front of them. And uh, like you said, those wide 403 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: angle lens eyeballs and they're huge. Is really handy because giraffes. Um, basically, 404 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: lions see giraffes and they think, all right, I know 405 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 1: no one likes to see this kind of thing on 406 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: television or on nature shows, but we have to eat too, 407 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: and they make for good eating if you're a lion 408 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: or let's say, a crocodile. And that's that's aside from humans. 409 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: That's basically it. Hyenas prey on giraffe calves. But they 410 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: don't have that many predators. Yeah, well, which is great 411 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: because we need more giraffes. Yeah, and they don't They 412 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: also don't have a lot of recourse against predators. They 413 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: can't kick, as we'll see, but they they there's not 414 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: a lot they can do besides run away. But even 415 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 1: when they run, despite their lungs being so big, they 416 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: don't oxygenate the their their bodies well enough that they 417 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: can run for very long distances. So they can run 418 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: fast and short bursts, but it can't being camouflaged and 419 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: being so huge and high off the ground that their 420 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: predators can actually reach them easily. That's that's really how 421 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: they survive. Do we take another break? Yeah, let's take 422 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: it away, all right, We'll be right back. All right. 423 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,120 Speaker 1: So you're talking about giraffes running fast. I can run 424 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: about thirty five um for our Canadian friends, and and 425 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: certainly for Mika, that's fifty six kilometers. And we don't 426 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: often do those conversions anymore. Well, we don't usually have 427 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: an episode requested by a cute little Canadian. That's correct, 428 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: although you could make the argument that all Canadians are cute, 429 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 1: sure right, nice at the very least. So, um, have 430 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: you ever seen a giraffe run in person? I don't 431 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,439 Speaker 1: know that I have. You know that thing when you 432 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 1: start to get older, Chuck, where your brain has been 433 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: around long enough that it can just make up memories 434 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: and you don't know if you actually experienced it or 435 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: if your brain is like, this is what that person 436 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: just asked would look like. So just go ahead and say, yes, 437 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: that's what I just did. I'm not sure if I 438 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: have or not, but at the very least I've seen 439 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: it on TV and can imagine it all right, so 440 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: I know we did it. We did an episode on 441 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: zoos and whether or not zoos are good or bad, 442 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 1: and I sort of still haven't completely made up my 443 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: mind on zoos, but um, I know you have your 444 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: on record. But I went to the San Diego Zoo 445 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: when we did a tour show there a couple of 446 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: years ago, and they have a draft habitat um very 447 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: nice one, and they had some girafts walking around doing 448 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: cute stuff, and then one of them, out of nowhere, 449 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: took off and started running, and it is It was 450 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: the most graceful thing I've probably ever seen in nature 451 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: that didn't involve wings and flying. It was unbelievable, Like 452 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: you can look it up on YouTube. Giraffes running but 453 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: so like like banjo music wouldn't have been appropriate. No, no, no, no, 454 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: it's just they just sort of glide, man, And they're 455 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: so big, and their necks are going forward and backward, 456 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: kind of like they're they're cranking it out with their neck. Uh, 457 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: and then their legs. It just it almost seems like 458 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: they're not touching the ground. It's not like a it's 459 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: a gallop, but it's hard to explain. Like when you 460 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: see a horse gallop, you feel like they're grabbing that 461 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: ground and it's very just strong looking, but a draft 462 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: just sort of glides. It's for such a big animal, 463 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: and that might have something to do with the the 464 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: optics of it, but um, it's just something to see. Well. 465 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: They also the way that they move their legs is 466 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of peculiar as well. I think when they're running 467 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: it's front legs and then back legs and front legs 468 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: and then back legs, if I'm not mistaken. But then 469 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 1: when they're moving along at a slower speed, um, they're 470 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: moving like right side legs, left side legs, right side legs, 471 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: left side really, so it's not like one at a 472 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: time or uh, it's it's a bizarre way to to 473 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: walk around. Interesting yet another amazing thing about your raft's 474 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,479 Speaker 1: all right? So, uh, one of our favorite things are 475 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: groups of animals, names of groups of animals, like you know, 476 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: a murder of crows and where they get these crazy names? 477 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: Uh in drafts. I never knew until today a group 478 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: of drafts is called a tower. I didn't know that anything. 479 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: So sureraffs, it's long them known there's social animals. They 480 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: live in packs, but again they they live in towers. 481 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry they since they weren't really studied out in 482 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: the field, everything that they noticed about giraffe sociality was 483 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: basically in zoos, and that's an artificial habitat, right, So 484 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: they didn't get to see the real giraffes. But now 485 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: that they've really started to study them out in the field, 486 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: like systematically and really scientifically, um, they're finding that giraffes 487 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: are like even more social than than they thought. Yeah, 488 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: and they're also sort of like, uh, sort of like 489 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: a liberal hippie commune. Um. A tower can have tend 490 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: to twenty members, but it's not like a lot of 491 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: uh packs or murders or gaggles where you have um like, well, 492 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: the women and the children are here, and the men 493 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: do this. It's sort of anything goes that can be 494 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 1: mixed genders. Uh. They can be young and old. Members 495 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: can come and go as they please. They don't necessarily 496 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: stick together life. It's just seems like it's sort of 497 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: a loose arrangement where giraffes will be like, all right, well, 498 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: I'm cool to hang out with you guys for a 499 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: little while, right exactly, and they The other thing that 500 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: struck me too was that giraffe towers don't have territories, 501 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: which I don't. I can't think of any other mammals 502 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: off the top of my head that don't protect their turf. 503 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: So apparently, when giraffes do um fight, male giraffes do fight, 504 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: it's strictly over re access to the um. The ladies. 505 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: Oh well, but that's it. It's not like, hey, get 506 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: out of here, this is my acacia tree, right, you know. True. 507 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: I just think it's neat. There's no territories. It's like 508 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: go wherever you want, many very chill. Uh. This is 509 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: one of the other big facts of the show for me. 510 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:52,719 Speaker 1: So giraffes, one of their evolutionary adaptations is because they 511 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: are so vulnerable to attack because they eat like what 512 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: sixteen twenty hours a day and they're just hanging out 513 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: eaten trying to all get along. Lines are nearby, so 514 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: they don't sleep for hours at a time because they're 515 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: so vulnerable to attack, so they sleep. They only sleep 516 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: about five to thirty minutes a day in the twenty 517 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: four hour period. And sometimes those are like all right, 518 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stand here and I'm gonna take a one 519 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: minute nap standing up right, or maybe boy, I'm super tired, 520 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 1: I need to lay down for six minutes. And so 521 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: just google a picture of giraffe sleeping on the ground 522 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and you will see a draft curled up with its 523 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: long neck kind of craning back towards this rump with 524 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: his little head on his butt like a swan. Yeah, 525 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: it's just adorable. My momo, my dog. She takes naps 526 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: like a giraffe with their head up or like a 527 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: like a really old person, or like she's nod off 528 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: and then like it lifts their head up. It's really 529 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: it's cute to see. Yeah, So you know, a draft 530 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: basically has to stay awake to keep an eye out 531 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: for predators. Um and they don't have a voice either. 532 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: They're one of the quietest mammals in nature. Yeah, a 533 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of people think or thought for a very long 534 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: time that dress just didn't make sounds because it's so 535 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: rare to hear them make a sound. But again, further 536 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: studies found that they do make sounds, they just very 537 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: infrequently do. And they also think that potentially giraffes communicate 538 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 1: to one another over long distances at um sub sonic 539 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: frequencies that that humans just can't hear, so they may be, 540 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,239 Speaker 1: you know, humming, And there's actually there's a recording of 541 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: a giraffe humming to itself in the dark in a zoo. 542 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: It's really sweet to hear. But if you think of 543 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: a giraffe by itself in the dark in a zoo 544 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: and it's humming, it makes you wonder why it's humming 545 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean, if you're around a giraffe, 546 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: what you might hear if you're lucky, it is like 547 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: a snort or maybe a hiss or a grunt. Probably 548 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: won't hear any roaring or mooing, although they can do that. 549 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 1: But the idea I've got is that that they just 550 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: don't care to talk to people much, you know. Yeah, 551 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:17,600 Speaker 1: so um, one thing with the snort. In particular, if 552 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: you do hear a giraffe snort, it means that it's 553 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: spooked and it's it's saying, oh my gosh, basically as 554 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: it's running away, but it's also alerting it's fellow giraffes 555 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: as well. And apparently giraffes are easily spooked enough that 556 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: they're kind of like an early warning signal for the 557 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: other animals on the savannah that they've spotted a lion. 558 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: So they're easily spooked that they also can see really 559 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: really well over very long distances, and because of that 560 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: height advantage, they can see even further, so if a 561 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: giraffe starts running, the other animals are like, I'm out too. 562 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and not only that, and this is so cool. 563 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: I love it when animals work together like that. But 564 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: it goes even deeper. Uh. If you look up tick 565 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: bird on giraffe, just google that stuff. You're gonna see 566 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: a giraffe hanging out with these little birds all over 567 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: its back and neck and their buddies. They have a 568 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: symbiotic relationship. And what happens is the tick bird or 569 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: it's called an ox pecker because they do this on 570 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,879 Speaker 1: other animals as well. But they basically sit on top 571 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: of these animals and they eat bugs in the coat. Uh, 572 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: they kind of pick their nits and they warn the 573 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: giraffe like they might see a lion and make their noise. 574 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't know what it sounds like. All right, they'll 575 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: do that, and then the giraffe in turn snorts and 576 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: takes off. So in a sense, the tick bird is 577 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: sort of warning everyone on the savannah that the lion 578 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: is coming around. Poor lions think it's such a bad rap. Yeah, yeah, 579 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: but they got to eat, you know. It's just it's 580 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: just one of those things. It's the circle of life. 581 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: It is. Nobody likes seeing a lion chowing down on 582 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: an antelope or running after a family of of antelopes. 583 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: They like to see lions and alligators or crocodiles fight 584 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, because then it's a fair fight. Sure, 585 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: you know I'm talking about Oh yeah, but we did 586 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: talk about the giraffes fighting each other for the ladies. Uh. 587 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: And they do this with uh those accones you know 588 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: when you look, I guess you you know, might want 589 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: to call them horns, but they're called acicones. The two 590 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: and it's not always too, don't they have more than 591 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: that sometimes so no, they'll have two accones. But then 592 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:26,879 Speaker 1: they get these calcium deposits to protect against the head butts, 593 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: and it looks like they have more horns. Like you're 594 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,720 Speaker 1: kind of showing off at that point. Yeah, you really 595 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: went a little far with the horns, man. Um. So 596 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: they as as the giraffe matures too, like they'll have 597 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: that little kind of tufted hair patch of hair at 598 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: the top and that starts to fade a little bit 599 00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,919 Speaker 1: as that it's replaced by the calcium deposits. That the 600 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: neck gets strong and upright and everything. And apparently young 601 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: giraffes become um, young male giraffes become young men like 602 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: giraffes as they're growing up by emulating their the giraffes 603 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: that they see in real life. Um, and they'll act 604 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: like they're tough or whatever and go like, you know, 605 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: pull pull the girl's hair or something like that. And 606 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: then when they're the actual like adult male giraffes, the 607 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: bulls are what they called come around. The kids just 608 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: suddenly just go back to being little kids like nothing nothing, 609 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything but they're almost practice at first 610 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: by emulating their they're grown ups. Yeah, it's pretty neat. Um, 611 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,640 Speaker 1: Like you said that, the males are called bulls. The 612 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: females are called cows uh, calfs or what they have 613 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: when they make a little baby uh and when they mate, 614 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: the cow has a gestation period about fourteen months and 615 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: then um. You can look up on YouTube and see 616 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: a video of a calf being born, and it is 617 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: something else to see because a six ft tall, hundred 618 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: and fifty pound giraffe, which is tiny by their standards, 619 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: will kind of be pooped out of the back of 620 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: the mom giraffe while the mom's just standing there. It'll 621 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: flump and fall on the ground like a little lump, 622 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: which is all cute and sort of amazing looking, and 623 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:22,319 Speaker 1: then like a bunch of really other gross stuff comes outright. 624 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: That's that's what you need to be just aware of. 625 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: If you watch this video, you can just stop it. 626 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,439 Speaker 1: There is what I would recommend, but there's a there's 627 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of afterbirth. There's one thing you know when 628 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: you're young giraffe is don't look up. Yeah, never look up. Yeah, 629 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: And while you're on YouTube, go look at baby giraffe 630 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: learning to stand and walk, because it's amazing. They do 631 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: it really quickly, about an hour later. But um, as 632 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: with any mammals first steps, it's it's one of the 633 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: most adorable things you can witness. It's a little shaky, 634 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: little shaky, yeah, but instead of taking you know, months 635 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: or you know however long it takes for for human 636 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 1: babies to learn to walk, like an hour is all 637 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,280 Speaker 1: it takes. And one reason probably the reason why giraffes 638 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: can walk that quickly after being born is because they 639 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 1: are huge targets for predators out on the savannah. Yeah, 640 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: it's like super sad. Uh. Only about one and four 641 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: infant giraffes survived that first year, Yeah, which is a 642 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's a that's a big milestone in a 643 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: giraffe's life because you made it to to your first year, 644 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: and after that you're starting to grow to the to 645 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: the point where I think by age three to six 646 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,359 Speaker 1: they're fully mature. So if you make it to your 647 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,800 Speaker 1: first year, you're you're gonna be able to survive probably 648 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: longer and longer. Your chances of survival increase tremendously just 649 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: because of the size. The size you're getting to but 650 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: making it to that first year is very tough. And 651 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: it's at that first year also that they wean. They 652 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: I think they nurse for like the first year and 653 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: then start eating leaves after that. Yeah, and um, So 654 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: for many years they thought that mama drafts might be 655 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: a little cold hearted because a lot of times they 656 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: would see the mama draft leave the calf behind for 657 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: this very vulnerable young calf for extended periods. But what 658 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: they now think, thankfully, is that the mama giraffes are 659 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: just they're not neglected at all. They're really social, uh, 660 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: and they're going out to look for food and stuff, 661 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: and the job of the baby calf is to just 662 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: lay down sometimes for a whole day and be as 663 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: quiet as possible until mama returns. And mama will return right. 664 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 1: But that seems to me is um. That's probably one 665 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,759 Speaker 1: of the reasons why the mortality rate is so high 666 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: among giraffe calves is that they're tiny. Their mothers leave 667 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: them and they just expected to lay there quietly on 668 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: the savannah until they return a day later. Yeah, but 669 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 1: they do like the other I mean, the the only 670 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: other thing they could do is walk around with mom, 671 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: which makes them more vulnerable. Yeah, I guess that's a 672 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: good point, you know, so that mama based he says, 673 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: you hide here, be quiet. I know you want to 674 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: run and play and you might want to snort, but 675 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: there's bad things out there. They're hungry lions, and so 676 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: I'll be back, trust me. Yep. So um, they like 677 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: you said, they do come back. But because of that, 678 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: they like I think you said. The scientists for a 679 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: long time, but what's wrong with giraffe moms are the 680 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: worst of the worst. Um. But they have found again 681 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: through recent study that now giraffes actually seemed to demonstrate 682 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: um grief, like prolonged grief, even um when they lose 683 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: a calf. And there was one um mother giraffe who 684 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 1: lost a calf to a predator and stayed at that 685 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: spot for four days and didn't eat anything and was 686 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: actually consoled it appeared by two other female giraffes who 687 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 1: were friends. So they they are not neglectful, cold hearted mother. 688 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: They're not like Joan Crawford's of the Animal Kingdom. Now, 689 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: I told Emily that fact this morning, and she literally 690 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: like started crying so bad. All right, So we mentioned 691 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,920 Speaker 1: that they eat plants, um that is exclusively drafts or 692 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: herbivores MIKA. So that means they only eat plants. They 693 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: don't eat meat, and what they really like to chow 694 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: down on they eat seeds, They beat fruits and branches 695 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:24,319 Speaker 1: and things. But they really love our mimosa trees and 696 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: especially Acacia trees. That is what their main meals consist of. Right, 697 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: And again they kind of look like these things that 698 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: they're eating, at least in their camouflage pattern. And because 699 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: their tongue is prehensile, meaning you can go grasp stuff, right, 700 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: they they are able to kind of circumnavigate like the 701 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: thorns that are part of Acacia trees and Mimosa trees 702 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 1: um and just kind of pluck these great leaves without 703 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: getting um stuck by the thorns. And their lips are 704 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: also prehensile too, so it's like on their face around 705 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: their mouth, they have two hands that are just going 706 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,800 Speaker 1: to town sorting through through these trees and um in 707 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: eating the leaves off of them. Yeah. I think that's 708 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: why when you see a giraffe there, so they have 709 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: so much personality because that mouth. Yeah, I think that's 710 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: part of it. Also, those eyelashes are not hurting things 711 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: at all. It's very very expressive. Uh. So for their size, 712 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: they eat hundreds of pounds of leaves a week, which 713 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: you think, like, man, that's a lot of leaves. But 714 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: for their sizes, they have a uh that's not a 715 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: lot of food. They have a very efficient internal system. Um. 716 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes they can live on as little as fifteen pounds 717 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: of foliage per day, which isn't a lot of food 718 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: for an animal that can weigh up pounds, right, Yeah, 719 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: it's like seven kilograms for our Canadian friends. That's for 720 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 1: the rest of the world except for Liberia. Uh. What's 721 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: the deal with the cud? So they're ruminant's right, like 722 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: a cow um And that means that they eat their 723 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: their leaves or flowers or what over there eating and 724 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: then uh, it passes through four different chambers of their 725 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: stomach and then it comes all the way back up 726 00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: through their stomach, all the way back up their neck 727 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: into their mouth. Basically, they throw up the leaves that 728 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,839 Speaker 1: have now been turned into cud, and then they chew 729 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,799 Speaker 1: on that some more and then swallow it again. That 730 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: makes them a ruminant and actually I believe it makes 731 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: them um kosher as well. Really, yeah, I saw that somewhere. 732 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: That does not mean that you should go eat giraffes though, 733 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: Oh what's wrong with people? Uh? And then finally they're 734 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: they're wonderful adaptation uh that I think is one of 735 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: the best is um because they're out there in the 736 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: dry subster here in Africa. There's not a ton of 737 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 1: water around, uh, and certainly a giraffe leaning down and 738 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: drinking water could be very vulnerable, especially to a crocodile. 739 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 1: They can go weeks at a time without drinking, and 740 00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: they get most of their water and the moisture that 741 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: they to survive from those plants that they're Yeah, it's 742 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:10,400 Speaker 1: pretty astounding amazing so um because they're doing all of this, uh, 743 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: this eating of tree tops and all of that, not 744 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: just the tree tops, but just about anywhere on the 745 00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,799 Speaker 1: tree they'll they'll eat from it. They're actually doing a 746 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 1: lot of other things too, um. And usually herbivores, you know, 747 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: they they play some pretty good role in in their ecosystem, 748 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 1: but giraffe seem to be like really integral to their 749 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: ecosystems as well, just because of their really long neck 750 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: and they're reaching places that other animals can't reach, so 751 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:38,480 Speaker 1: they have um a big impact on the ecosystem as 752 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: far as keeping it like healthy and and running smoothly basically. Yeah, 753 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:48,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like bringing a wildlife management pruning system 754 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 1: in there, right. That's you know, fift eighteen feet tall. 755 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: And while they're eating, they are distributing seeds all over 756 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: the place pooping, yeah, pooping out those seeds so they 757 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: can serve of his uh pollinators even Yeah, pretty amazing 758 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: the little acacia tree seeds go. Thanks a lot for 759 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 1: the ride, that's right. As far as their conservation status, uh, 760 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,279 Speaker 1: they're not endangered, which is good news. Yeah, but are 761 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: they not? I mean, just think about this. I don't know. 762 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: Over the past fifteen years, they've declined by to um 763 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,320 Speaker 1: around eighty thousand from a hundred and forty thousand, which 764 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,759 Speaker 1: is a troubling number to me for sure. I just 765 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what it takes to become endangered. I 766 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: don't either. But but most of that um, that loss 767 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 1: of the girafts fifteen years, they lost maybe sixty thousand 768 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: out of a hundred and forty thousand drafts are are 769 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: gone now, mostly due to poachers or yeah boo maybe 770 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: booze of all booze. Go to the poachers, um and 771 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: then their their ecosystem. Their habitat is being lost because 772 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: trees are being cut down for everything from developments to 773 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 1: um crop land boo again. And if they don't have 774 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: their well we we kind of do need crop land. 775 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: But yes, agreed, there's when it affects drafts like that 776 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: boo um. But even beyond that, apparently the giraffe tail 777 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: is used for all sorts of stupid stuff. They frankly, 778 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: you don't need to kill a giraffe for you can 779 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: just if you really need the tail hair, just cut 780 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: the tail off, you know, like, if you're gonna do that, 781 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: at least don't kill the giraffe first, maybe sedated and 782 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:39,680 Speaker 1: surgically remove it or something. But cheez, yeah, I wouldn't 783 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 1: even go that bar well, sure right, just don't don't 784 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: remove the tail. Yeah, you can make a fly whisk 785 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: or a bracelet out of something else exactly, but that's 786 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: that's what they use them for, bracelets and flyer whisks. 787 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: And because of all this bad stuff, Uh, Mika, you 788 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: will be glad to know that June one has been 789 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,359 Speaker 1: declared World Giraffe Day. Is the longest day the year 790 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,280 Speaker 1: and they have awarded that day to the tallest animal. 791 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,439 Speaker 1: So now there are there's a lot of awareness going 792 00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: on and efforts underway and a lot more studying than 793 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: has ever been done before to help preserve the future 794 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: success of the giraffe. Yep, thankfully. Yeah. Oh and I 795 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: also want to go on record, Yes, we realized that 796 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: flies spread disease in Africa and that fly whisks are 797 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 1: actually pretty valuable. Like Chuck said, you can make fly 798 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: whisks out of other stuff. And maybe it's incumbent upon uh, 799 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,479 Speaker 1: some of us here in the West to make sure 800 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,760 Speaker 1: that the people who need to fly west in Africa 801 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: get the synthetic one so that the giraffes are left 802 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: out of the loop. There, how about that? And I 803 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 1: think that sounds great. So you got anything else right now? 804 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: I have nothing else? All right, Well there's giraffe Mika. 805 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 1: Thanks for the idea. Uh and since I said thanks, 806 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 1: it's time for Chuck. Yes, that is correct. Administrative details 807 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,479 Speaker 1: okay everyone, administrative details. If you were new to the show, 808 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: it is a segment wherein we thank uh listeners for 809 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: the really neat, wonderful things that they send us. That's 810 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: one of the great things about doing what we do 811 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: is people are kind hearted and loving and we'll send 812 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: us uh, send us stuff. Agreed. So let's start Chuck 813 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: all right first on the list, because we forgot him 814 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,799 Speaker 1: last time. Our old buddy Greg Storkin came to see 815 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 1: us in Denver, Colorado, right I think so yeah, and 816 00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: he sent us some whiskey. And Greg, Uh, you are 817 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,840 Speaker 1: one of our our long time listeners, and man, we 818 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: thank you from the bottom of our hearts for sticking 819 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 1: with us and for the whiskey. Yes, and Chuck, there's 820 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: another one that, um yeah, thank you Greg. There's another 821 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,719 Speaker 1: one we missed last time too, Lucas Uh and the 822 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 1: rest of the crew from Penelope, which is a charming 823 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: restaurant at Lexington and thirty in Manhattan. They sent us 824 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,400 Speaker 1: a wonderful care package of stuff from Penelope. So thank 825 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,160 Speaker 1: you guys, finally, at long last for that. That's right, 826 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: And speaking of whiskey, might as well go ahead and 827 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 1: shout out our buddies from the Greatest Generation podcast, Adam 828 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: Pranica and Ben Harrison. Uh. If you don't listen to 829 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,160 Speaker 1: that show, it's really good. If you're a Star Trek 830 00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: Next Generation fan, or even if you're not. That's the 831 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: best thing going for you. Uh. And they sent us 832 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,680 Speaker 1: some what was it what house whiskey from Brooklyn? Yeah, 833 00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,640 Speaker 1: it was good stuff. Oh did you already dive into that? 834 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,760 Speaker 1: Oh it's it's long gone. Okay, let's see. How about 835 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: Tim Lazaroff send us a bunch of Wegmans organic ketchup. 836 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, Tim. He also he also griped on 837 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 1: email that we hadn't thanked him. So Tim, hold your horses. Uh, 838 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: Testy's old oddities. Uh. They sent us toddler gifts and 839 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: dog gifts, which we always appreciate, little bat costumes and 840 00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: dolls for bat observation. Yes, it's very very cute. I 841 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: put it in my daughter's room and she loved it. Yes, 842 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: thank you for that. And got a costume right, Yes 843 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,439 Speaker 1: she did. She looks adorable in it too. I need 844 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: to post a picture of it. Tell totally. Um, but 845 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,480 Speaker 1: I'm afraid that somebody will kidnap her. Well, yeah, then 846 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,200 Speaker 1: don't do that, right, So uh, I have a correction. 847 00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: Also from last time, we thanked Matt drag Or for 848 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 1: sending his homebrew beer, but he we hadn't tried it yet. 849 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: Remember it turned out to be kalua. He made homemade kalua. What? Yeah, 850 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,600 Speaker 1: don't you remember? It's amazing. I don't remember that. I 851 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: don't know if I had that. It was good. It's 852 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,919 Speaker 1: in that green bottle that Jonathan Strickland's faces on. Uh. 853 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: Sarah Lopez Big Banks, she sent from scandalous scarves. Uh 854 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: sent scarves for our wives after we made fun of 855 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,920 Speaker 1: Infinity scarves on our live show. Right yeah, with somebody 856 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,319 Speaker 1: wearing an Infinity scarf right there, I was. It was uncomfortable. Um. 857 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 1: Thanks a million to Christina who gave of us freestyle 858 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: embroidered sampler portraits of us at the Chicago show. You remember, Yes, 859 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:11,719 Speaker 1: they're amazing. Uh, Shot Tower Gin. We we love our 860 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: gifts of spirits, so Shot Tower Gin. I cannot remember 861 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,280 Speaker 1: the person and I feel terrible about that, but big 862 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 1: shout out to shot Tower Gin. Uh yeah, yeah, do 863 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: write in and let us know so we can thank 864 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: you a second time. Thanks to Robin and Mother Dirt 865 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 1: for sending us all the great skincare stuff is much 866 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: appreciated and well received. Thank to Ben And I could 867 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: not read the spelling. It's either clerk or cloak. He 868 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: sent us a very cool and solvable. Very key for 869 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: a maze. Stuff you should know maze. And uh, I've 870 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: never tried to design a me, so it was pretty 871 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: neat seeing that. Um, let's see. Cody Deet sent us 872 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,960 Speaker 1: a copy of his book Spheria. And also while I'm 873 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 1: on John M. Hamilton's sent us a copy of his 874 00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 1: book book Hell called Ohio. He thought I would appreciate that. 875 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: In particularly Argentina, Coy invited us to her wedding to 876 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,800 Speaker 1: Dustin Notedge, so we could not come, but we always 877 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: appreciate wedding invites. Yes, um Daria from Happy Socks in Sweden. 878 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: I had no idea that Happy Socks was out of Sweden, 879 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,040 Speaker 1: but she sent us a bunch of happy socks appropriately enough, 880 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: and and they're awesome. Yeah, you love your happy socks. 881 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,879 Speaker 1: Mr Jack Ramsey sent US's graphic novel called Skit City 882 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 1: and this thing is awesome. Uh, look up skit City 883 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 1: online s k I T City. Uh and it's really 884 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,880 Speaker 1: really great. Yep. And Brigitte for the cut out drawing 885 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: of me with my lovecraft book. I love that. That 886 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,160 Speaker 1: was very cool. Yeah. Who else do we have here? Um? 887 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 1: Now I thought it would be Rebecca, but I swear 888 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,239 Speaker 1: it was an end, So I'm going with Renika more 889 00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: Shell sent us her young adult time travel novel The 890 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,280 Speaker 1: Mender M E N D E R. Check that out, 891 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: and uh, you want to save the rest for the 892 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 1: next episode. Yeah, we're gonna continue this with a part two. 893 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: How about that? All right, let's do it. So in 894 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 1: the meantime, if you want to get in touch with us, 895 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:17,840 Speaker 1: you can tweet to us at s Y s K 896 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: podcast or Josh eam Clark, hang out with us on 897 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: Facebook at Charles W. 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