WEBVTT - Ep. 360: Stuck In The Washing Machine (Ft. Nicole Kitt) 0:00:02.560 --> 0:00:05.800 Guess what decision we're about to make. Horrible decision. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:12.559 May the fifth, we are pulling up to London, y'all. 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:14.960 It's the day you need to block out in your calendar. 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:17.920 It's on a Sunday, the London surrounding areas. 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:20.400 All the black people that live in Europe, wherever you at, 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:22.120 it's your chance. That's right. 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.200 We're super excited to be bringing the last portion of 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:28.680 the Climax Tour to London. If you came to our 0:00:28.720 --> 0:00:32.200 show last year, this will be a completely different show. 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.199 Wilder, more fun. Well, I did get on top of 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:36.960 the couple and do the sixth. 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.239 And there was a woman who stapled money to her 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:40.680 cheek and started bleeding. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:42.320 But we gotta step it up. Of London. We're gonna 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:42.879 step it up. 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.560 So head on over to whorhive dot com and get 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:47.159 your tickets. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:47.400 Now. 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:54.840 Welcome y'all another episode. Now, horrible decisions. 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:56.360 I'm sorry I have to sound like that when we 0:00:56.400 --> 0:01:00.600 have someone who like both. Sorry anyway, guys, welcome. 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:06.720 To you do it, you do it's horrible. Welcome you 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.840 guys to another episode. 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:20.559 Horrible Yes, maybe gus, Okay, that was really good. Yeah, 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.840 it's your girl, man, dy b a k a pet 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:27.280 the stallion a k add what's up, y'all? 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.320 I always said it was good? Was up? Because I'm nervous. 0:01:29.400 --> 0:01:33.120 You said, what's good? I'm so nervous. Our guests make 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.480 you nervous. But let me tell you why. Last year 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:38.119 you can introduce himself first, you forgot it. You just said, 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.280 what's good? Bitch, let me through my motherfucker show. Okay, 0:01:40.640 --> 0:01:47.880 go ahead, my domination like that. I like that. What's good, y'all? Reason? 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:52.280 So I'm nervous and excited because last year Mandy and 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.480 I came to Avier and Awards for our first time, 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:56.960 and we kept talking about how weren't seeing that many 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:58.760 black girls, and if we did, We're like, no, wow, 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.600 the black girls gotta have to busted big or the 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.960 busted dress that she ain't right. And then we saw 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.200 you and we were like, she looks good, beautiful. You 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:11.360 turned around and went, oh my god, we got our 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:12.680 going to cold kid in the building. 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:16.800 That's right. I think you won Best New Started last year? 0:02:16.880 --> 0:02:17.240 Was that right? 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:17.519 No? 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:19.880 So I actually didn't win Best New Start, but I 0:02:19.919 --> 0:02:21.160 was nominated. You were nominated. 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.959 It's sorry, you know well, by the way, just so 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:26.639 you know how last year was set up and the 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:30.160 room we met you in where they had us drinking baby. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.960 We left after the first nominade uh was was announced 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:35.520 by Matt. I was drunk. 0:02:35.600 --> 0:02:37.679 It was already like midnight because the war show didn't 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.920 starts like eleven we did. I tripped a little bit, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.720 but it was really just so you know, we don't 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:46.200 really know the winner. So she was like, we thought 0:02:46.240 --> 0:02:46.920 you would have won though. 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:49.480 Oh I think that was one too. But you know, 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.440 are you nominated this year as well? I am. Actually 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:55.799 I'm nominated for five different things running down. 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.480 I don't even tell you, I couldn't tell you, but 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:58.920 the biggest one is Best Actress. 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:01.919 I love it. I can see you did your whole 0:03:02.040 --> 0:03:02.800 thing with the intro. 0:03:03.200 --> 0:03:06.799 You just won something at a different conference. Correct, Yeah, 0:03:06.840 --> 0:03:09.480 so we could go at X in LA. I want 0:03:10.120 --> 0:03:13.079 best Actress as well. What does that mean for a 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:15.919 porn star? Porn actress? Like when you win something, do 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:17.760 the price really go up? Or is it just like 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:22.040 you almost get this? I don't know the validation for peers. 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:22.760 That's what I was gonna say. 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.360 Yeah, I mean it kind of is like it's kind 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.800 of both. So like after I want because I actually 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:27.480 wanted Europe too. 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:32.720 I actually I'm global. You know, it is what it 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.400 is at this point, I'm not even hold the back. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:35.280 It is what it is. 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:36.360 I'll put to work in. 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:39.680 But I actually won in Europe first a couple of 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:42.840 months ago, and then I won last week here in 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:46.960 La same thing Best Actress, and then of course I'm nominated. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:51.040 So after the first award, yeah, it definitely like picked 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:51.640 up for sure. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.000 It was kind of one of those things where it's 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.320 like okay, like people knew at that point I was 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.400 the go to I can handle the script, I can 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.160 do whatever, and in porn, there are not many girls 0:04:01.200 --> 0:04:04.040 who can do that, like they can't really that's I 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:06.880 mean you mentioned script because we just interviewed Joanna Angel, 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.400 who's a o G right, and she literally. 0:04:09.240 --> 0:04:11.760 Talked about how her favorite stuff that she was doing 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:14.960 was writing and directing. So like, when it comes to script, 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:18.760 does it really matter? Because no, shade when I think 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.159 about you, but I'm just not someone that's watching the script. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.720 I think about your scenes. I think about how real 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:26.280 it feels like when you're having an orgasm. But for 0:04:26.400 --> 0:04:30.760 the script part, what do you like if you're really 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:33.080 concerned you better put some respect on the script. 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.520 I mean it's like, okay, so because everybody gets like 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.640 a dick, Like everyone gets like a dick. Not there's 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.800 different levels to it, but everyone will be coming. We 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:45.040 need that exactly. 0:04:45.080 --> 0:04:47.880 There's different levels. But like I mean, like I mean 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:49.960 you've seen porn acting. You know what it can be, 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.440 and like often like it's like worse than like all 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:55.800 my children are like it is like it's stiff, right, 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.760 so you know what it can be. But like it's 0:04:58.839 --> 0:05:02.080 just it's just not common to have an adult actress 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.360 who can really like name like you know, nail the 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:08.080 line and and know the lines and like form a 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:11.800 character so like important. It's just you know, it's just 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:12.400 not it's not. 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:14.120 A common thing. What have been some of your favorite 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:15.559 scripts and characters that you've played? 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:22.920 Oh god, I mean like on the porny side, and 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.120 they wouldn't get here on the porny side. Like I 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.720 love a good washing machine. I love good washing machine. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:28.880 Getting stuck in the washing machine? 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.640 Wait, getting stuck in the washing machine? Have you not 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.000 seen that? No, girl, I'm not on that type part 0:05:35.040 --> 0:05:39.720 of the website. Real White What okay were you been? 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:40.760 What on you on? 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:41.760 So I do. 0:05:42.080 --> 0:05:43.720 I do only fans now, but I watch a lot 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:46.720 of gay porn and like man on man and the 0:05:46.880 --> 0:05:47.800 only times. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.840 That I really watch uh women, well, I watch a 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.239 lot of trends women porn and then gang bangs. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.760 So, like, one of my favorite guests that we've had 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:57.080 on was Lisay because I. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:06:00.920 Really like, Yeah, the movers come things heavy and they're 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.920 just all like taking off their shirt because they work 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:03.279 so hard. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.440 Over So what's a yeah, what's the washing launch the 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:09.480 laundry man? Yeah, you said, in the water, in the 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:11.839 washing machine, in the washing machine. So there's this thing 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:14.720 like imporn like it is. Honestly, I feel like it's 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:18.039 like an epidemic where it's like a step Brother type epidemic. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:21.480 It Yeah, okay, all right, I didn't write this. I 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:23.280 don't write this. Okay, I didn't come up with this. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.320 She said, I'm just heard this, but I'll actually wait, no, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.920 not starting to get this hold on. Wait no, now 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:32.840 that she's getting I'm not gonna lie. Now I have 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.320 seen it. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.080 It's where you're getting laundry out of the washing someone 0:06:36.120 --> 0:06:39.000 comes behind you. Now, oh my god, I'm stopping. I 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.839 can't get out machine. I got too right, yes, yeah, 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.159 that's a front loading. It's not the top loading. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.719 It's a front load. I honestly, yeah, it's a front loading. 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.239 I see now. As soon as you started saying. 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.039 No, it's not going it's like she they're pulling something out, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:57.320 and you know, you get the shot of their ass 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.719 bents over and then the gays. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.159 Do it too that I know, maybe been baby being 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.880 art right, Oh my godkay, okay, okay, you came and 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:09.000 it was crazy. 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.000 It's too They put a camera inside wash it and 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.360 sometimes sometimes they like they'll spin it like so like 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:16.040 it make it go like a round to make it 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:17.040 look like it just finished. 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:18.880 And she like got in there to get her stuff right, 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:19.680 or the dryer. 0:07:19.680 --> 0:07:22.360 It's really the dry like the dryer, right, and so 0:07:22.440 --> 0:07:25.800 you pull it out the dryer. Somehow, some way you 0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:28.040 get stuck. I don't know if it's your elbows, I 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.239 don't know, if I don't know what it is. Something 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.400 get stuck right, and you're like, oh my god, I 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:33.880 can't get out. And then your step brother comes up 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.720 behind you, like the good step brother he is, and 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.440 he's like, I'm gonna help you, but first I'm gonna. 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:44.480 Yeah, before someone to you know, do what to do? 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.440 So okay, so you've got washing machine? Then what else 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.360 is one of your other favorites? You said epidemic. 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.160 That's hilarious. So no, it is. Oh my god, it's 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.280 becoming popular. It's everywhere now that I think about it. Yeah, 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:58.440 So that and I like, I like. 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:00.400 Playing a good realtor. I think that's all we fun, 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:02.800 you know, because I love house shopping. Like sometimes I'll 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.080 just like go to like open houses just for fun. 0:08:05.280 --> 0:08:06.320 That's a funny thing to do. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.400 Yeah, just to like see other people, so like cribs 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.240 and see what waste of people. Exactly, I'm a waster time. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.760 I'm not sorry, and you got money. Yeah, it's like 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:15.440 I want to see it, you know. Sometimes I want 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.040 to dream as well and to see where I want 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:18.680 to be, you know, in a few years. So I 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:20.840 just love playing like a cool realtor that just like 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.800 you know, shows you the house. The wife goes into 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:24.400 the other room. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.400 I go with her. We do a little hanky panky. 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.160 The husband comes in. He's shocked. 0:08:29.240 --> 0:08:32.079 Always always shop, but he's down. So we turns it 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:33.840 around and then we all kind of you know, get 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:36.959 together and make it too. You know, I gotta go one. 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:37.880 Yeah. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:41.959 So when it comes to characters, is there like a 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:44.400 I don't know. I think, what if I could just 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.800 name it off real quick schoolgirl, teacher, doctor. 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.520 Nurse, then maybe you wouldn't You don't look like you 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.440 would play a Milford none of that yet? 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:54.640 Not Yeah, no, no, no, definitely not. 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:56.600 And I had that as one of my questions because 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.439 one of my favorite docs about porn was called The 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:02.080 Hot Girls Wanted. In one of the scenes, the girl says, well, 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:03.640 now that I'm over twenty five, I'm like ready for 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:07.280 milk porn, right, And I was wondering, how have your 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.760 categories evolved? I mean for me, not yet, but if 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.600 I'm being honest, I feel like for like black actresses 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.920 in particular, or like minorities, like, it's a little bit 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:19.959 different for us in the industry. I feel like we 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.360 just we typically kind of stay within the let's say, 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:27.560 like hot wife type category. We don't crossing over into 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.679 milk because we age so well. Hello, is like we 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.040 age really well. Now that's like other people don't. We 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:37.040 just don't know they don't. Yeah, and so because of that, 0:09:37.760 --> 0:09:40.200 you know, we don't. It's it's takes a lot longer 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.439 for us to get to that side. Okay, So I 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.160 don't really know a lot of like. 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.680 Black like porn stars who are like classified fully as. 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:51.280 Like a milf melf right, I mean yeah, but that 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.880 is the thing in the industry where like once you're 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:55.240 over twenty five, like for a lot of these girls, 0:09:55.280 --> 0:09:58.439 you're considered you're considered a milf once you're over twenty five, 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:01.160 which is crazy because that's obviously and that's how teeny 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:01.800 they like them. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:03.840 To be honest, and that's how teeny they like him exactly. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:04.199 You know. 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.400 The stand ups obviously are not made my women to 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.079 be a little bit different if it were. So, so, 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.000 what's been the Nicole Kit's specialty? 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.560 Like yeah, like what like what you like for most? 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.400 If I think of my favorite porn start, I'm just 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.679 thinking back in the day, like Lacey Duval she always 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:21.600 did these crazy blow drops. She was like use her 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.959 teeth or hands or take the spit and look and 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:25.840 rip it and like I remember that was her thing, 0:10:25.880 --> 0:10:26.040 I know. 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:28.960 And Havana Ginger was known for her areas at one 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:32.480 point again I know Lisa and for the gang bangs 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.760 and the milk porn, Like, yeah, what would you say 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.520 your specialty is or that you feel like you do often. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:39.760 So I feel like. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.559 More of like what makes Ale kit at least I 0:10:43.600 --> 0:10:45.760 feel like it's I have a hard body, Okay, so 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.600 like I have a very like I'm very I'm athletic, 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.920 like track and field belt exactly, track and field. 0:10:51.240 --> 0:10:54.040 So like they they am very fit and so they 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:54.520 love that. 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.559 So I find myself like and I'll do things in 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.000 the gym, I'll do things like where I'm like outside 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.760 working out like that's that's that. But I also feel 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.520 like it's my energy because like when I'm most set, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.760 like for me, it's very transformative. Like I'll walk in 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.360 and stuff like that. I'll just be like on hoodie 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:10.520 and sweat. It's like all chill, like, Okay, I'm here, 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.120 you know, don't don't talk too much to me. 0:11:12.200 --> 0:11:13.520 Let me just kind of like get in the mode. 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:15.319 But then as soon as the camera's going, you know, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.599 it's like a light switch and then it's just like 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.720 this straight up you know, slupt me out. 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:23.040 It's crazy because I'm not saying she has slept me 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:23.720 out type of energy. 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:24.040 I don't know. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.520 If you know a girl named Kayla Nicole. She lives 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.360 in La she's a fitness influencer, host and all these 0:11:29.400 --> 0:11:31.600 things in between. Literally when I saw you just now, 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:33.760 I said, damn, she reminds me of Kayla, same vibe, 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.400 saying bubbly and girly and fun and sexy. But also 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:41.679 I think that most times when we meet super sexy 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.439 and model esque black women, we're not ready for them 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:47.959 to have that. Like I think Naomi Campbell, like you're 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:48.920 gonna be a bitch. 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.640 Not that I want I want it though, right, yeah, Yeah, 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.720 it's just that like, oh yeah, I am better than energy. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:55.240 So when it's like that fun, bubbly shit, it's like, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.320 oh shit, it's till right yeah. 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.400 So I mean, honestly, like that's I mean the beauty 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.120 of the woman I've met the black woman industry, I 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:03.559 like everyone typically is. 0:12:03.640 --> 0:12:06.040 We're all like that because we've got as cool as hell. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:08.360 Yeah, yeah, we're all so cool because like we have 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.720 so much going on anyway, just trying to like make 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:12.960 an aame for ourselves, trying to stop with yourself, trying 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:13.840 to navigate all the. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:17.600 Situations within the industry. 0:12:17.640 --> 0:12:20.760 You could say, should talk to you about that, Because 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.080 when Mandy and I were at the Avian Awards, there 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:26.480 was a lot of conversation around how why we're here? 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:29.800 First off, by other black by other black creators. 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.000 Yeah, all the black creators who were just basically telling 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:33.839 us that, you know, it was very difficult to get 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:36.640 nominated for anything, or they weren't feeling as much welcoming, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:39.240 or they felt like they were left out with you. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.240 I feel like, I don't know if the term is 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.240 contract star, because when I've heard that, that means they're 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.839 associated with just the big, big houses. But have you 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.280 felt that, like, I don't know, you are the odd 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.439 one out, or maybe it's been sept for you with 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:54.959 other black women, maybe you try to put them on. 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:56.560 Is it like us when we're trying to hire other 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.880 black girls for different gigs? Like, what's your experience been 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.840 like being black and important? 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:01.760 Oh my god? 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.920 So I mean if I'm being I being real, real real, 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.920 that's a black chow. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so being real. 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:12.240 So my experience being black and porn, I definitely see it. 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:13.520 It is harder. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:15.000 It's like one of those things like when they tell 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:16.959 you when you're younger or your parents you have to 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:18.559 work twice as hard for half as much. 0:13:18.960 --> 0:13:21.880 That is a real thing, like that that's still that's 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.280 still a thing even as popular as you are. Is 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:25.439 that or is that was that in the beginning? Or 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:26.000 is that even now? 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.760 That's that was in the beginning because I I when 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.840 I first moved out to l A, I actually stay 0:13:30.840 --> 0:13:32.920 in a model house because I wasn't sure entirely if 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:35.319 I wanted to move fully to la or if I 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:37.679 want to go back home to Oklahoma where I'm originally front. 0:13:37.600 --> 0:13:41.080 Are the model houses like, so I've heard model houses 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.200 be where of course all these girls come that live 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:46.040 or that come in from other places, and really the 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:47.880 person who owns the house has y'all like out of 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:48.760 clubs every night? 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:49.480 Is that? 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:51.719 Is that the same on the West coast as it is? 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:53.679 That's what I heard New York is what was what 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:54.600 was your model figures? 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:56.640 So was like more chill. It was just a bunch 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.160 of girl It was like a sorority. It's like an 0:13:58.200 --> 0:13:59.480 agency that owns a house. Correct. 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.240 Well, it's actually this particular woman was a supermodel in 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.640 the nineties. Yeah, and she also was a penthouse model. 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:09.400 So it was that was her house really really nice house. 0:14:09.679 --> 0:14:13.440 Why did she bring women into the house because because 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.880 she was with pihouse, which is like parallel to like 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:19.120 the porn industry. They do like more editorial exactly, the 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:22.440 editorial stuff. She just like opened up her house and 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:23.239 like rented. 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.640 It out to girls who are you know, moving to 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:27.920 California or working, you know, in the adults, which I 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:29.800 love because a lot of the times when men run 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.840 those houses, it's a lot more predatory. It's a lot 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:33.480 and like I said, the ones that I'm familiar with, 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:35.560 for any of the girls that lived there, they were 0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.480 like for certain nights to go into the clubs, they 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.560 were like and it seemed more like a pimp thing. 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:42.760 And that's why I wanted to know if it was 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:43.480 a different experience. 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.480 But I think, of course, being ran by a woman, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.960 it makes sense she probably actually wanted to create just. 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:52.920 Better family, better environment. Yeah that's really dope. 0:14:52.960 --> 0:14:54.520 Yeah, she had no kids, she had a bunch of cats, 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:56.800 and she did treat us like like family, like family. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:57.520 So it was really cool. 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.320 But when I moved into that model house for the 0:15:00.400 --> 0:15:02.640 first like i'd say, like seven months of my career, 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:04.680 I just noticed that there were a lot of women 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:08.000 who are not black that would come in and they 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.600 would just immediately off the bat just start shooting for 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:13.480 some of the biggest, largest companies in the entire industry, 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:16.120 like their career immediately would just like take off. 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.760 And it wasn't like we were doing you know, much different. 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:20.760 We were all posting on social media, we're both doing this, 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.400 but it was just held in a different regard, you know. 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.320 So I do believe that there is a there's a 0:15:26.440 --> 0:15:29.760 handicap to being a black woman in the adult industry. 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:32.680 And like for myself, the only reason, honestly, well I 0:15:32.800 --> 0:15:35.840 even like got that that push was because I want 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.880 to overseas. Oh, because I realized I'm like, I'm here 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:40.840 in America. I kind of know how they feel here 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.800 and how the production companies can be in all but 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:44.760 how they can be. 0:15:45.560 --> 0:15:47.520 I know in Europe there's not many black women in 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.080 porn there. Can you tell me more commodity? 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.720 I ever heard about the black production porn production experience 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:54.160 in Europe. 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.880 Yeah, So it's it depends on who you shoot for, 0:15:58.000 --> 0:15:59.520 Like it depends what you're into. Because if you're into 0:15:59.520 --> 0:16:02.560 like really hard course stuff, I mean, yeah, exactly, and 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.320 that's that's like the majority of it, right, But there 0:16:05.360 --> 0:16:07.880 are some companies that are more like like less than, 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:11.320 for example, where it's more like erotica like Come to Life. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:14.640 I was more sensual, it's more cinematic, and that's who 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:16.920 I was shooting for. But there just aren't a lot 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:19.240 of black women. There's two I can think of, the 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:22.000 Swati and Josie. So I was like, I'm gonna go 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.680 out there because I don't have a lot of black women, 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:25.680 and I know when I'm out there, I'll be in 0:16:25.840 --> 0:16:28.360 high demand because I don't have to really how long? 0:16:28.440 --> 0:16:29.320 How long were you out there for? 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.480 So I was going back and forth for a whole year, 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.240 So I was probably in Europe at least once every month. 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:41.320 We'll last year aware in Europe, Spain, Berlin, Amsterdam for US. 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:44.920 Yes, So like yeah, so I was all over the 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.240 place and that's what got me started because it wasn't 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:47.760 happening here. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:52.080 Can I ask you, knowing that it's more difficult to 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.560 place in porn as a black woman, do you feel 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.320 as though you had to lift some of your boundaries 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.720 on things that you wouldn't do so that you could 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:01.200