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Speaker 1: I always said it was good? Was up? Because I'm nervous.
Speaker 1: You said, what's good? I'm so nervous. Our guests make
Speaker 1: you nervous. But let me tell you why. Last year
Speaker 1: you can introduce himself first, you forgot it. You just said,
Speaker 1: what's good? Bitch, let me through my motherfucker show. Okay,
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Speaker 4: So I'm nervous and excited because last year Mandy and
Speaker 4: I came to Avier and Awards for our first time,
Speaker 4: and we kept talking about how weren't seeing that many
Speaker 4: black girls, and if we did, We're like, no, wow,
Speaker 4: the black girls gotta have to busted big or the
Speaker 4: busted dress that she ain't right. And then we saw
Speaker 4: you and we were like, she looks good, beautiful. You
Speaker 4: turned around and went, oh my god, we got our
Speaker 4: going to cold kid in the building.
Speaker 1: That's right. I think you won Best New Started last year?
Speaker 1: Was that right?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: So I actually didn't win Best New Start, but I
Speaker 1: was nominated. You were nominated.
Speaker 2: It's sorry, you know well, by the way, just so
Speaker 2: you know how last year was set up and the
Speaker 2: room we met you in where they had us drinking baby.
Speaker 1: We left after the first nominade uh was was announced
Speaker 1: by Matt. I was drunk.
Speaker 2: It was already like midnight because the war show didn't
Speaker 2: starts like eleven we did. I tripped a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was really just so you know, we don't
Speaker 2: really know the winner. So she was like, we thought
Speaker 2: you would have won though.
Speaker 1: Oh I think that was one too. But you know,
Speaker 1: are you nominated this year as well? I am. Actually
Speaker 1: I'm nominated for five different things running down.
Speaker 3: I don't even tell you, I couldn't tell you, but
Speaker 3: the biggest one is Best Actress.
Speaker 1: I love it. I can see you did your whole
Speaker 1: thing with the intro.
Speaker 3: You just won something at a different conference. Correct, Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we could go at X in LA. I want
Speaker 3: best Actress as well. What does that mean for a
Speaker 3: porn star? Porn actress? Like when you win something, do
Speaker 3: the price really go up? Or is it just like
Speaker 3: you almost get this? I don't know the validation for peers.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it kind of is like it's kind
Speaker 3: of both. So like after I want because I actually
Speaker 3: wanted Europe too.
Speaker 1: I actually I'm global. You know, it is what it
Speaker 1: is at this point, I'm not even hold the back.
Speaker 3: It is what it is.
Speaker 1: I'll put to work in.
Speaker 3: But I actually won in Europe first a couple of
Speaker 3: months ago, and then I won last week here in
Speaker 3: La same thing Best Actress, and then of course I'm nominated.
Speaker 1: So after the first award, yeah, it definitely like picked
Speaker 1: up for sure.
Speaker 3: It was kind of one of those things where it's
Speaker 3: like okay, like people knew at that point I was
Speaker 3: the go to I can handle the script, I can
Speaker 3: do whatever, and in porn, there are not many girls
Speaker 3: who can do that, like they can't really that's I
Speaker 3: mean you mentioned script because we just interviewed Joanna Angel,
Speaker 3: who's a o G right, and she literally.
Speaker 4: Talked about how her favorite stuff that she was doing
Speaker 4: was writing and directing. So like, when it comes to script,
Speaker 4: does it really matter? Because no, shade when I think
Speaker 4: about you, but I'm just not someone that's watching the script.
Speaker 4: I think about your scenes. I think about how real
Speaker 4: it feels like when you're having an orgasm. But for
Speaker 4: the script part, what do you like if you're really
Speaker 4: concerned you better put some respect on the script.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, okay, so because everybody gets like
Speaker 1: a dick, Like everyone gets like a dick. Not there's
Speaker 1: different levels to it, but everyone will be coming. We
Speaker 1: need that exactly.
Speaker 3: There's different levels. But like I mean, like I mean
Speaker 3: you've seen porn acting. You know what it can be,
Speaker 3: and like often like it's like worse than like all
Speaker 3: my children are like it is like it's stiff, right,
Speaker 3: so you know what it can be. But like it's
Speaker 3: just it's just not common to have an adult actress
Speaker 3: who can really like name like you know, nail the
Speaker 3: line and and know the lines and like form a
Speaker 3: character so like important. It's just you know, it's just
Speaker 3: not it's not.
Speaker 1: A common thing. What have been some of your favorite
Speaker 1: scripts and characters that you've played?
Speaker 3: Oh god, I mean like on the porny side, and
Speaker 3: they wouldn't get here on the porny side. Like I
Speaker 3: love a good washing machine. I love good washing machine.
Speaker 3: Getting stuck in the washing machine?
Speaker 1: Wait, getting stuck in the washing machine? Have you not
Speaker 1: seen that? No, girl, I'm not on that type part
Speaker 1: of the website. Real White What okay were you been?
Speaker 1: What on you on?
Speaker 5: So I do.
Speaker 1: I do only fans now, but I watch a lot
Speaker 1: of gay porn and like man on man and the
Speaker 1: only times.
Speaker 2: That I really watch uh women, well, I watch a
Speaker 2: lot of trends women porn and then gang bangs.
Speaker 1: So, like, one of my favorite guests that we've had
Speaker 1: on was Lisay because I.
Speaker 2: Really like, Yeah, the movers come things heavy and they're
Speaker 2: just all like taking off their shirt because they work
Speaker 2: so hard.
Speaker 3: Over So what's a yeah, what's the washing launch the
Speaker 3: laundry man? Yeah, you said, in the water, in the
Speaker 3: washing machine, in the washing machine. So there's this thing
Speaker 3: like imporn like it is. Honestly, I feel like it's
Speaker 3: like an epidemic where it's like a step Brother type epidemic.
Speaker 1: It Yeah, okay, all right, I didn't write this. I
Speaker 1: don't write this. Okay, I didn't come up with this.
Speaker 1: She said, I'm just heard this, but I'll actually wait, no,
Speaker 1: not starting to get this hold on. Wait no, now
Speaker 1: that she's getting I'm not gonna lie. Now I have
Speaker 1: seen it.
Speaker 6: It's where you're getting laundry out of the washing someone
Speaker 6: comes behind you. Now, oh my god, I'm stopping. I
Speaker 6: can't get out machine. I got too right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 6: that's a front loading. It's not the top loading.
Speaker 1: It's a front load. I honestly, yeah, it's a front loading.
Speaker 1: I see now. As soon as you started saying.
Speaker 2: No, it's not going it's like she they're pulling something out,
Speaker 2: and you know, you get the shot of their ass
Speaker 2: bents over and then the gays.
Speaker 1: Do it too that I know, maybe been baby being
Speaker 1: art right, Oh my godkay, okay, okay, you came and
Speaker 1: it was crazy.
Speaker 3: It's too They put a camera inside wash it and
Speaker 3: sometimes sometimes they like they'll spin it like so like
Speaker 3: it make it go like a round to make it
Speaker 3: look like it just finished.
Speaker 1: And she like got in there to get her stuff right,
Speaker 1: or the dryer.
Speaker 3: It's really the dry like the dryer, right, and so
Speaker 3: you pull it out the dryer. Somehow, some way you
Speaker 3: get stuck. I don't know if it's your elbows, I
Speaker 3: don't know, if I don't know what it is. Something
Speaker 3: get stuck right, and you're like, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: can't get out. And then your step brother comes up
Speaker 3: behind you, like the good step brother he is, and
Speaker 3: he's like, I'm gonna help you, but first I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before someone to you know, do what to do?
Speaker 4: So okay, so you've got washing machine? Then what else
Speaker 4: is one of your other favorites? You said epidemic.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. So no, it is. Oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: becoming popular. It's everywhere now that I think about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that and I like, I like.
Speaker 3: Playing a good realtor. I think that's all we fun,
Speaker 3: you know, because I love house shopping. Like sometimes I'll
Speaker 3: just like go to like open houses just for fun.
Speaker 1: That's a funny thing to do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to like see other people, so like cribs
Speaker 3: and see what waste of people. Exactly, I'm a waster time.
Speaker 3: I'm not sorry, and you got money. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: I want to see it, you know. Sometimes I want
Speaker 3: to dream as well and to see where I want
Speaker 3: to be, you know, in a few years. So I
Speaker 3: just love playing like a cool realtor that just like
Speaker 3: you know, shows you the house. The wife goes into
Speaker 3: the other room.
Speaker 1: I go with her. We do a little hanky panky.
Speaker 1: The husband comes in. He's shocked.
Speaker 3: Always always shop, but he's down. So we turns it
Speaker 3: around and then we all kind of you know, get
Speaker 3: together and make it too. You know, I gotta go one.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when it comes to characters, is there like a
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think, what if I could just
Speaker 1: name it off real quick schoolgirl, teacher, doctor.
Speaker 2: Nurse, then maybe you wouldn't You don't look like you
Speaker 2: would play a Milford none of that yet?
Speaker 1: Not Yeah, no, no, no, definitely not.
Speaker 3: And I had that as one of my questions because
Speaker 3: one of my favorite docs about porn was called The
Speaker 3: Hot Girls Wanted. In one of the scenes, the girl says, well,
Speaker 3: now that I'm over twenty five, I'm like ready for
Speaker 3: milk porn, right, And I was wondering, how have your
Speaker 3: categories evolved? I mean for me, not yet, but if
Speaker 3: I'm being honest, I feel like for like black actresses
Speaker 3: in particular, or like minorities, like, it's a little bit
Speaker 3: different for us in the industry. I feel like we
Speaker 3: just we typically kind of stay within the let's say,
Speaker 3: like hot wife type category. We don't crossing over into
Speaker 3: milk because we age so well. Hello, is like we
Speaker 3: age really well. Now that's like other people don't. We
Speaker 3: just don't know they don't. Yeah, and so because of that,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't. It's it's takes a lot longer
Speaker 3: for us to get to that side. Okay, So I
Speaker 3: don't really know a lot of like.
Speaker 1: Black like porn stars who are like classified fully as.
Speaker 3: Like a milf melf right, I mean yeah, but that
Speaker 3: is the thing in the industry where like once you're
Speaker 3: over twenty five, like for a lot of these girls,
Speaker 3: you're considered you're considered a milf once you're over twenty five,
Speaker 3: which is crazy because that's obviously and that's how teeny
Speaker 3: they like them.
Speaker 1: To be honest, and that's how teeny they like him exactly.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: The stand ups obviously are not made my women to
Speaker 3: be a little bit different if it were. So, so,
Speaker 3: what's been the Nicole Kit's specialty?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like what like what you like for most?
Speaker 4: If I think of my favorite porn start, I'm just
Speaker 4: thinking back in the day, like Lacey Duval she always
Speaker 4: did these crazy blow drops. She was like use her
Speaker 4: teeth or hands or take the spit and look and
Speaker 4: rip it and like I remember that was her thing,
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 2: And Havana Ginger was known for her areas at one
Speaker 2: point again I know Lisa and for the gang bangs
Speaker 2: and the milk porn, Like, yeah, what would you say
Speaker 2: your specialty is or that you feel like you do often.
Speaker 1: So I feel like.
Speaker 3: More of like what makes Ale kit at least I
Speaker 3: feel like it's I have a hard body, Okay, so
Speaker 3: like I have a very like I'm very I'm athletic,
Speaker 3: like track and field belt exactly, track and field.
Speaker 1: So like they they am very fit and so they
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 3: So I find myself like and I'll do things in
Speaker 3: the gym, I'll do things like where I'm like outside
Speaker 3: working out like that's that's that. But I also feel
Speaker 3: like it's my energy because like when I'm most set,
Speaker 3: like for me, it's very transformative. Like I'll walk in
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. I'll just be like on hoodie
Speaker 3: and sweat. It's like all chill, like, Okay, I'm here,
Speaker 3: you know, don't don't talk too much to me.
Speaker 1: Let me just kind of like get in the mode.
Speaker 3: But then as soon as the camera's going, you know,
Speaker 3: it's like a light switch and then it's just like
Speaker 3: this straight up you know, slupt me out.
Speaker 4: It's crazy because I'm not saying she has slept me
Speaker 4: out type of energy.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: If you know a girl named Kayla Nicole. She lives
Speaker 3: in La she's a fitness influencer, host and all these
Speaker 3: things in between. Literally when I saw you just now,
Speaker 3: I said, damn, she reminds me of Kayla, same vibe,
Speaker 3: saying bubbly and girly and fun and sexy. But also
Speaker 3: I think that most times when we meet super sexy
Speaker 3: and model esque black women, we're not ready for them
Speaker 3: to have that. Like I think Naomi Campbell, like you're
Speaker 3: gonna be a bitch.
Speaker 4: Not that I want I want it though, right, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's just that like, oh yeah, I am better than energy.
Speaker 1: So when it's like that fun, bubbly shit, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, it's till right yeah.
Speaker 3: So I mean, honestly, like that's I mean the beauty
Speaker 3: of the woman I've met the black woman industry, I
Speaker 3: like everyone typically is.
Speaker 1: We're all like that because we've got as cool as hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're all so cool because like we have
Speaker 3: so much going on anyway, just trying to like make
Speaker 3: an aame for ourselves, trying to stop with yourself, trying
Speaker 3: to navigate all the.
Speaker 1: Situations within the industry.
Speaker 3: You could say, should talk to you about that, Because
Speaker 3: when Mandy and I were at the Avian Awards, there
Speaker 3: was a lot of conversation around how why we're here?
Speaker 1: First off, by other black by other black creators.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all the black creators who were just basically telling
Speaker 4: us that, you know, it was very difficult to get
Speaker 4: nominated for anything, or they weren't feeling as much welcoming,
Speaker 4: or they felt like they were left out with you.
Speaker 4: I feel like, I don't know if the term is
Speaker 4: contract star, because when I've heard that, that means they're
Speaker 4: associated with just the big, big houses. But have you
Speaker 4: felt that, like, I don't know, you are the odd
Speaker 4: one out, or maybe it's been sept for you with
Speaker 4: other black women, maybe you try to put them on.
Speaker 4: Is it like us when we're trying to hire other
Speaker 4: black girls for different gigs? Like, what's your experience been
Speaker 4: like being black and important?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: So I mean if I'm being I being real, real real,
Speaker 3: that's a black chow. Yeah yeah, yeah, okay, so being real.
Speaker 3: So my experience being black and porn, I definitely see it.
Speaker 1: It is harder.
Speaker 3: It's like one of those things like when they tell
Speaker 3: you when you're younger or your parents you have to
Speaker 3: work twice as hard for half as much.
Speaker 1: That is a real thing, like that that's still that's
Speaker 1: still a thing even as popular as you are. Is
Speaker 1: that or is that was that in the beginning? Or
Speaker 1: is that even now?
Speaker 3: That's that was in the beginning because I I when
Speaker 3: I first moved out to l A, I actually stay
Speaker 3: in a model house because I wasn't sure entirely if
Speaker 3: I wanted to move fully to la or if I
Speaker 3: want to go back home to Oklahoma where I'm originally front.
Speaker 2: Are the model houses like, so I've heard model houses
Speaker 2: be where of course all these girls come that live
Speaker 2: or that come in from other places, and really the
Speaker 2: person who owns the house has y'all like out of
Speaker 2: clubs every night?
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 2: Is that the same on the West coast as it is?
Speaker 2: That's what I heard New York is what was what
Speaker 2: was your model figures?
Speaker 1: So was like more chill. It was just a bunch
Speaker 1: of girl It was like a sorority. It's like an
Speaker 1: agency that owns a house. Correct.
Speaker 3: Well, it's actually this particular woman was a supermodel in
Speaker 3: the nineties. Yeah, and she also was a penthouse model.
Speaker 3: So it was that was her house really really nice house.
Speaker 3: Why did she bring women into the house because because
Speaker 3: she was with pihouse, which is like parallel to like
Speaker 3: the porn industry. They do like more editorial exactly, the
Speaker 3: editorial stuff. She just like opened up her house and
Speaker 3: like rented.
Speaker 2: It out to girls who are you know, moving to
Speaker 2: California or working, you know, in the adults, which I
Speaker 2: love because a lot of the times when men run
Speaker 2: those houses, it's a lot more predatory. It's a lot
Speaker 2: and like I said, the ones that I'm familiar with,
Speaker 2: for any of the girls that lived there, they were
Speaker 2: like for certain nights to go into the clubs, they
Speaker 2: were like and it seemed more like a pimp thing.
Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted to know if it was
Speaker 1: a different experience.
Speaker 2: But I think, of course, being ran by a woman,
Speaker 2: it makes sense she probably actually wanted to create just.
Speaker 1: Better family, better environment. Yeah that's really dope.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she had no kids, she had a bunch of cats,
Speaker 3: and she did treat us like like family, like family.
Speaker 1: So it was really cool.
Speaker 3: But when I moved into that model house for the
Speaker 3: first like i'd say, like seven months of my career,
Speaker 3: I just noticed that there were a lot of women
Speaker 3: who are not black that would come in and they
Speaker 3: would just immediately off the bat just start shooting for
Speaker 3: some of the biggest, largest companies in the entire industry,
Speaker 3: like their career immediately would just like take off.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like we were doing you know, much different.
Speaker 1: We were all posting on social media, we're both doing this,
Speaker 1: but it was just held in a different regard, you know.
Speaker 3: So I do believe that there is a there's a
Speaker 3: handicap to being a black woman in the adult industry.
Speaker 3: And like for myself, the only reason, honestly, well I
Speaker 3: even like got that that push was because I want
Speaker 3: to overseas. Oh, because I realized I'm like, I'm here
Speaker 3: in America. I kind of know how they feel here
Speaker 3: and how the production companies can be in all but
Speaker 3: how they can be.
Speaker 1: I know in Europe there's not many black women in
Speaker 1: porn there. Can you tell me more commodity?
Speaker 4: I ever heard about the black production porn production experience
Speaker 4: in Europe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's it depends on who you shoot for,
Speaker 3: Like it depends what you're into. Because if you're into
Speaker 3: like really hard course stuff, I mean, yeah, exactly, and
Speaker 3: that's that's like the majority of it, right, But there
Speaker 3: are some companies that are more like like less than,
Speaker 3: for example, where it's more like erotica like Come to Life.
Speaker 3: I was more sensual, it's more cinematic, and that's who
Speaker 3: I was shooting for. But there just aren't a lot
Speaker 3: of black women. There's two I can think of, the
Speaker 3: Swati and Josie. So I was like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: out there because I don't have a lot of black women,
Speaker 3: and I know when I'm out there, I'll be in
Speaker 3: high demand because I don't have to really how long?
Speaker 1: How long were you out there for?
Speaker 3: So I was going back and forth for a whole year,
Speaker 3: So I was probably in Europe at least once every month.
Speaker 1: We'll last year aware in Europe, Spain, Berlin, Amsterdam for US.
Speaker 3: Yes, So like yeah, so I was all over the
Speaker 3: place and that's what got me started because it wasn't
Speaker 3: happening here.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you, knowing that it's more difficult to
Speaker 2: place in porn as a black woman, do you feel
Speaker 2: as though you had to lift some of your boundaries
Speaker 2: on things that you wouldn't do so that you could
Speaker 2: get work?
Speaker 1: And I would like to know what things you wouldn't do?
Speaker 3: So yes, So there was definitely like multiple points where
Speaker 3: I felt like I needed to conform or I mean
Speaker 3: you've seen like porn covers and porn titles.
Speaker 1: Do you know what it can be, what it can
Speaker 1: look like? You know, they usually like they'll put like
Speaker 1: you know, the dogs going yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say, I don't want to, but
Speaker 3: they'll say, you know, I'm going, yeah, I thank you
Speaker 3: because I don't want to say it. But like that,
Speaker 3: like you know what they can put out there, like oh,
Speaker 3: going black black attack or like something like that. There's
Speaker 3: just it's a lot of race play. And so I
Speaker 3: definitely had a lot of offers for that, and it
Speaker 3: was tempting. I won't gonna lie, but I personally decided,
Speaker 3: you've never done that. No.
Speaker 1: I did what I did Zebra Girls for.
Speaker 3: It was with dog parts, So Zebra Girls where it's like,
Speaker 3: you know, white girls and black girls. I did That's
Speaker 3: Ze Girls.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I I had no clue where
Speaker 1: it was going. And then okay, white girl, black girl,
Speaker 1: you know mix.
Speaker 3: I did that, and I think I did maybe like
Speaker 3: one other like title that was a little bit on
Speaker 3: the like racier side.
Speaker 1: The Sleeper Girls was racy for like that company just does.
Speaker 2: Really like racist no, I'm familiar with dog fart, but
Speaker 2: I did, so that's one of your absolutely not It's
Speaker 2: like you're not going to allow a white man to
Speaker 2: call you out of your knee or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I don't like.
Speaker 3: I don't like it being titled with anything like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, like race play is fun when it's me
Speaker 3: initiating it, but it was the opposite way because my estigma,
Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I'm just not into it. So honestly,
Speaker 3: like I it was tempting, but I set boundaries for
Speaker 3: myself when I first started, which honestly, I feel like,
Speaker 3: make things harder because if I would have just taken
Speaker 3: those those gigs, if I would have just been like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I give it to me, doesn't matter, I don't care
Speaker 3: like a lot of people do, which essentially, in my opinion,
Speaker 3: is selling your soul in a way. You know, if
Speaker 3: I would have done that, then yeah, I probably would
Speaker 3: have moved a little bit faster. But do you think
Speaker 3: it too some of these girls are taking it because
Speaker 3: that's all they can get.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I was gonna say, everyone has a price, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the money just probably like the fact that you even
Speaker 2: said it was tempting, I wonder if the price got
Speaker 2: a little higher, if it would have, you know, tempted
Speaker 2: you even more to do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that's all it is. Everyone
Speaker 1: has part.
Speaker 4: Now I want to know because on the other end,
Speaker 4: so what about the black girls that are only doing
Speaker 4: black porn and maybe they haven't been able to cross over?
Speaker 1: Have you experienced some backlash? Oh my god, Oh my god?
Speaker 4: Okay words mm hmm. I remember seeing Kiera Noir yep,
Speaker 4: maybe it was Anna Fox someone else, and I was
Speaker 4: just like, damn, there's a lot of black girls I
Speaker 4: watched it.
Speaker 1: I hear that are huge. In my no I was.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, like last show was maybe like
Speaker 2: five to ten, but like the ones that I'm used
Speaker 2: to seeing weren't here.
Speaker 1: But also I'm.
Speaker 4: Thinking to myself, is it easy to get someone to
Speaker 4: be like, well, fuck that bitch because she's she sold
Speaker 4: out on us. So it's like, yeah, what what experience?
Speaker 3: No, let me tell you something, because actually I want
Speaker 3: them to see the They need to see this all y'all,
Speaker 3: y'all need to know this because this is, honestly, it
Speaker 3: is one of the hardest parts about doing porn when
Speaker 3: it comes to the backlash I get. If I'm being
Speaker 3: one hundred percent and this is the backlash from your
Speaker 3: own community, it is from my own community. I feel
Speaker 3: like it is a lot of people only want to
Speaker 3: do exclusively like all like, you know, black porn, and
Speaker 3: that's great. I say, if that's what you want to do,
Speaker 3: cool do it. But kind of to the point what
Speaker 3: you said earlier, it's like, we're just trying to eat.
Speaker 3: We're just trying to survive. You know, We're not getting
Speaker 3: as many gigs as the next girl because we are black.
Speaker 3: It is, this is what it is.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to do We're gonna do so.
Speaker 3: If agent a company calls me and it's a really
Speaker 3: you know, good reputable production company that I know it's
Speaker 3: going to, you know, treat me well, and they say, hey,
Speaker 3: we want you to shoot with this guy, and this
Speaker 3: guy happens to be white or whatever, We're gonna take it,
Speaker 3: because again, we have, you know, bills that we need
Speaker 3: to pay. But I literally get every day so many
Speaker 3: comments on my Twitter direct messages. I get harassed by
Speaker 3: the fact that I shoot at a racial park from.
Speaker 1: Men or women, men, men, men and women, black hair,
Speaker 1: black men. Wow.
Speaker 3: But they watched it because Clinton know who you is exactly,
Speaker 3: they're watching it.
Speaker 1: So I was there fans right there, fans.
Speaker 3: But like, I literally like you man, I wish it
Speaker 3: would I deleted the Screenshow maybe I still have it?
Speaker 3: I literally I posted my photo from for winning the
Speaker 3: Award for Expist from last week, and it's just a
Speaker 3: self with me just holding my trophy.
Speaker 1: And this guy on Instagram Instagram of all places and
Speaker 1: not even.
Speaker 3: Twitter, goes in my comments and says, oh, yeah, I
Speaker 3: guess what did he say exactly?
Speaker 1: Not taking all that white dick.
Speaker 3: But he said, I guess letting white men use you
Speaker 3: has finally paid off.
Speaker 1: I'm so serious. I'm so s I can't make that up.
Speaker 1: And you only come up.
Speaker 4: Do you don't want to learn that guy told me
Speaker 4: that I shouldn't be haveven a white guy, white man.
Speaker 1: He is looking at me the same way. It's like, what, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll be roal with you. I used to
Speaker 1: date white guys.
Speaker 4: I don't anymore, only because I found it more difficult
Speaker 4: nowadays because I'm like, I always like that, explain something.
Speaker 4: And then when I was dating white boys, it could
Speaker 4: only be euro white because they wasn't the racist as
Speaker 4: American white not Now, I'm like, but I remember your
Speaker 4: boyfriend was zero. And I know black women or even
Speaker 4: people listening to this think that sounds stupid, but I'm
Speaker 4: not even kidding.
Speaker 1: It kind of was different. It's a huge difference. Not
Speaker 1: saying they wasn't the original colonizer. I was about to
Speaker 1: say they only colonized.
Speaker 4: It's a weird cultural difference where they were easier or
Speaker 4: more digestible, I guess because they didn't have that everyday racism,
Speaker 4: like that American microaggression.
Speaker 3: Shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And that to me is the thing that annoys
Speaker 4: me the most in interracial dating is I felt like
Speaker 4: I was experienced a lot of microaggression with European dudes
Speaker 4: when I was dating them.
Speaker 1: I wasn't really.
Speaker 4: Having it because it wasn't culturally stuff they were experiencing. Now,
Speaker 4: I just feel like I was doing too much explaining
Speaker 4: so I can't date white guys. However, I never want
Speaker 4: to shade women for it, because I definitely have been
Speaker 4: on the receiving end of comments from black men like
Speaker 4: once I dated a white guy, was pretty much over
Speaker 4: for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, or they're gonna like, like you damn much goods.
Speaker 2: That's why they I mean, what's crazy is that's also
Speaker 2: the experience that we learned to in terms of white
Speaker 2: women when they finally take like their back. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: so weird because we also just found out I don't
Speaker 2: know if y'all know, inter racial was actually put is
Speaker 2: one of the top search top three of twenty twenty
Speaker 2: four searches. You know, somebody, it's literally one of the
Speaker 2: top search categories.
Speaker 1: It is in the country.
Speaker 3: Ebony actually is always top five across the world. Yeah,
Speaker 3: black women are top five.
Speaker 4: I think that the reason that it's so easy for
Speaker 4: ebony to come to the top is because white people,
Speaker 4: men specifically, I think, fantasize so much about dating black
Speaker 4: women that it may not even be something that's of
Speaker 4: access to them.
Speaker 1: And you never really realize how many like I live
Speaker 1: in New York, you live in New York people whatever.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Alex Husson.
Speaker 4: Who does Peloton and for anyone that doesn't know what
Speaker 4: it is, he's the black guy that is on Peloton.
Speaker 3: He said something to me that I found so interesting.
Speaker 3: He said, I am some of the first black people
Speaker 3: that someone's ever seen. I'm the first black man in
Speaker 3: a lot of people's homes. You don't understand what just
Speaker 3: riding this bike has done.
Speaker 1: When people come to meet me the ship, they say
Speaker 1: to me like they're not just telling me they got
Speaker 1: cured from some disease.
Speaker 4: But I'm the first time they saw it in their home.
Speaker 4: And I think for anybody that's curious, horn is the
Speaker 4: easiest way to now access or yes, how else are
Speaker 4: you gonna fucking meet this?
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I know, I mean exactly. You go
Speaker 3: to Europe, you know, to grow up, you get into
Speaker 3: these small towns.
Speaker 1: They don't know. They all they know is what they
Speaker 1: see on TV. Yep, and not on the internet. That's
Speaker 1: all they know when it comes to black people.
Speaker 4: Black woman, tell me about the shitty things that have
Speaker 4: made me happen to you when working important And when
Speaker 4: I say that, I want to talk about romance.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's been a guy or even one of
Speaker 1: your girlfriends or family members. You could be so much more.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So I mean.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like I haven't actually Okay, So I
Speaker 3: actually get from a very conservative Christian background, like my
Speaker 3: parents were Bible thumpers, but my family actually has been
Speaker 3: very accepting I love that of what I do because
Speaker 3: I've done it to the degree that I've done it.
Speaker 1: What do you mean by exactly so well? Then?
Speaker 2: I do want to ask, because we are seeing even
Speaker 2: the amateur girls, the only fans girls.
Speaker 1: Bring in.
Speaker 2: Very good money, and so what does it mean to
Speaker 2: do it well? Are they just glad that you have
Speaker 2: a light in setting, in a production team behind it?
Speaker 2: And do you think they would view differently if you
Speaker 2: had a tripod and set it up on your phone, Like,
Speaker 2: to what degree do you believe the acceptance is coming
Speaker 2: from to how you're doing it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, honestly, I think it's the glam
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 3: So if you're not involved with the glamorous side, because
Speaker 3: really what it is is proximity. Everybody wants to be
Speaker 3: close to somebody who they think is famous or bigger
Speaker 3: than them.
Speaker 1: So if you don't have that front, that glam, that.
Speaker 3: High life, you know, the traveling, the photo shoots of this,
Speaker 3: that's not what's being presented first, regardless of how many
Speaker 3: awards you have or whatever. I think people look at
Speaker 3: a little bit differently because at that point, even if
Speaker 3: they want to judge you, a lot of the time
Speaker 3: they'll shut They'll shut the fuck up because I.
Speaker 1: Want to be in the same room as you. It's funny.
Speaker 2: I guess it would be the same difference in if
Speaker 2: we think about the nineties and early two thousands, women
Speaker 2: letting everyone know that they were strippers was received one way,
Speaker 2: But we didn't look down on the playboy buddies exactly
Speaker 2: because of you know what I mean, because you go
Speaker 2: onto the store, you see the playboy, you see the girl,
Speaker 2: she's in the magazine, doesn't matter you open it up
Speaker 2: for pussy's out.
Speaker 3: No one cares because she's being sold across the nation,
Speaker 3: in the world. So that's the biggest difference. So even
Speaker 3: if you are just doing in your bedroom with the tripod,
Speaker 3: as long as is what like some of your content
Speaker 3: is glam like that, it doesn't matter what opinion they have.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be also helps that you make money. If
Speaker 1: you were doing this, I'm not making money, and like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing this? He nasty's got the What
Speaker 1: was I gonna say? Like, she's got the tripod, but
Speaker 1: you know she's got the light live here. We should
Speaker 1: hear her.
Speaker 3: I know, Okay, but I'm like just thinking about that
Speaker 3: because to me her ship is amateur, but like it's
Speaker 3: definitely as.
Speaker 2: Far as I know you be nasty is the reason
Speaker 2: I don't be wanting to send no news or nothing
Speaker 2: to nobody. First off, every matter no be nasty. I
Speaker 2: don't know how she gets the angles on looks so good.
Speaker 1: She got ye and I'm like, lis, be like, send
Speaker 1: me something.
Speaker 2: It don't look ship like the only fans girls, I
Speaker 2: ain't sending you ship Nigga book my flight.
Speaker 1: I'll see you when I'll suck it good. But I
Speaker 1: can do need something about that? Can I tell you
Speaker 1: something about that? Actually on that?
Speaker 3: So yeah, you want to have that front the glam brand, right,
Speaker 3: But what I have found doing only fans because like
Speaker 3: these men love like they love it when I have
Speaker 3: no makeup on.
Speaker 1: We are not gonna let Drake Cleary to not shave
Speaker 1: my arm pants. I think it's because you always look
Speaker 1: like this though no, no.
Speaker 2: I think the ment like and we said it like
Speaker 2: right when we dressed down the Mormon approach us.
Speaker 1: I think it's really just their insecurities. They don't feel
Speaker 1: like they can get a bit that is gland up good.
Speaker 4: Or no, so they feel like I think that so
Speaker 4: the do that I'm dating hates that I wear makeup. Right,
Speaker 4: He's just like, oh God, no, tomorrow you're gonna because
Speaker 4: he's come to the words. And I really believe that
Speaker 4: we are seeing so many women be overdone that we
Speaker 4: can't handle it anymore.
Speaker 1: Look at Kylie right now, she's like twenty four.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna want to see. What you're saying though,
Speaker 2: is when we did girls, we do make up and glam.
Speaker 2: That's the thing about the ship. The last is all
Speaker 2: the thing that's where niggas got it fucked up. That
Speaker 2: ship is not for them ever. We do it for us,
Speaker 2: for us to make us look good, because baby, I
Speaker 2: will tell you I get more compliments by women when
Speaker 2: I'm in the club, bro.
Speaker 1: But we do it. We do it for ourselves. It
Speaker 1: actually makes us feel better.
Speaker 2: And then we're actually doing it because unfortunately, we've talked
Speaker 2: about the art of competition, we compete across other women,
Speaker 2: so we want to look better than the other women.
Speaker 2: It's not how the men perceive us, it's we know
Speaker 2: we the baddest. We want to feel good about it.
Speaker 1: Judging this. Let's talk about that church background. How ye
Speaker 1: start with the Bible and then Booty to the Bible
Speaker 1: to the Booty. Okay, that's why I canceled. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is actually a really funny story.
Speaker 3: So I left Oklahoma like three years ago because I
Speaker 3: was just I wanted something new, like Middle America.
Speaker 1: I wanted something new.
Speaker 3: I want to see some stuff and want so weird. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: this is what happens when we're repressed. Don't don't don't
Speaker 3: do that to us, like let us be do our
Speaker 3: thing in high school, like don't don't hold us back.
Speaker 3: We bus loose, right, So I I literally okay when
Speaker 3: I left, because it's it's gonna answer a question. I
Speaker 3: broke my laptop and I said, hey, any laptop for
Speaker 3: work because I told my dad it's like, hey, I'm
Speaker 3: going out there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go, you know, modeling, do some acting and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, cool, let me give you a laptop
Speaker 3: so you can work. And it was his backup laptop.
Speaker 3: His laptop and my laptop were on the same user name.
Speaker 3: It was like Windows like laptop. I did not know
Speaker 3: that they sink up. I had no idea that they
Speaker 3: sink so I like second shoot in the industry. Ever, ever, no,
Speaker 3: I'm out here in the Vegas right it's Halloween. They said, hey,
Speaker 3: we want you to dress like a sexy nun and
Speaker 3: I have a threesome. And I'm like, all right, let's
Speaker 3: go for it.
Speaker 1: I was down. I was happy, Right, I do I
Speaker 1: do the shoe, not a nun Christian mayor. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me let me get there. So I do the shoe.
Speaker 1: I do the shoe. I take the photos from the shoe,
Speaker 1: I put them on the computer.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking like, oh, I want to make some promo
Speaker 3: material because I'm new, and it makes like some flyers
Speaker 3: or something with it. Throughout the night, I guess our
Speaker 3: laptops him in Oklahoma, Me and La sincd up. So
Speaker 3: it's two in the morning and my dad calls me
Speaker 3: and he's like, I'm not gonna say we' legal name,
Speaker 3: but he's like Nicole.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, Hi, what's going on. It's so early.
Speaker 1: Why are you awake?
Speaker 3: And he's like, I just have a question for you.
Speaker 3: There's some photos on my laptop with you and your
Speaker 3: friends exactly. And I'm like my friends and I'm thinking, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, I did like have some photos, you know,
Speaker 3: like I took with my girlfriends before I left Oklahoma
Speaker 3: and I had that there too, so I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: you mean Gray's so grace.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were kind of hanging out. He was like, no,
Speaker 1: it was like you and your friends. It was this
Speaker 1: girl and this guy.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about,
Speaker 3: Like it's just beyond me, right, And he's like, well,
Speaker 3: you were wearing a costume, and I'm like a costume.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you still, girl? I was.
Speaker 3: It was two in the morning, cause I was like,
Speaker 3: what are you talking about? And then finally he just says,
Speaker 3: he was like, you are nune. You are a nun
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, all right. So I'm in the
Speaker 3: model House and at this point I'm like, I don't
Speaker 3: know what's about to happen. So I like, it's a
Speaker 3: pitch stark outside. God, I was twenty six, okay, So
Speaker 3: I'm in the model House and so I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna I'm gonna step outside real quick because I don't
Speaker 3: know where this is gonna go. And so it was
Speaker 3: two in the morning. We're having this long, long talk
Speaker 3: about like what I'm doing. I finally have to tell him,
Speaker 3: like I'm I'm doing porn. I'm not doing anything else.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to model or how I am, but
Speaker 3: to act. I'm here to do porn. And it was
Speaker 3: a very intense conversation. He didn't Yella, yes, second shoe. Ever,
Speaker 3: I was a month into the industry, a whole month.
Speaker 3: I thought I had some time. I thought I could
Speaker 3: wait like six months or so, like break it to
Speaker 3: him slowly.
Speaker 1: You said, it was a little long conversation. Did he
Speaker 1: try to convince you that this wasn't the right path?
Speaker 1: Did he? Did he pray?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like what was his response?
Speaker 1: So he prayed? He did pray. He did pray, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I just don't know what I Honestly.
Speaker 3: I feel like he felt a little portrayed. I think
Speaker 3: he thought that maybe, you know, he wanted more for
Speaker 3: me in his own in his own way. But he
Speaker 3: also said though, you know, while he was like, are
Speaker 3: you sure this is what you want to do? Like,
Speaker 3: once you do this, you can't do it. But he
Speaker 3: you know, I told him like, hey, you know, I
Speaker 3: thought about this very you know, for a long time,
Speaker 3: and I want this. And then at that point he
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, well, you have always been
Speaker 3: a focused person and as much as I don't agree
Speaker 3: with this, as much as you know, the Bible doesn't
Speaker 3: agree with us, God does not agree with us. You've
Speaker 3: always been a very, very focused person, so I know
Speaker 3: if you're going to do it, you're going to do it.
Speaker 1: Well, did he tell your mom or did he say
Speaker 1: that you have to tell your mom? So he did
Speaker 1: not tell my mom. My, My mom found out all
Speaker 1: the ladies in the church, and that was what I'm.
Speaker 3: Told that.
Speaker 2: Wait started down with the mama. She found out from
Speaker 2: the church, from the from the wh think about that.
Speaker 3: Who the hell told you in the church that sister
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna seay her name's daughter was doing that.
Speaker 3: We were told they were looking at ebony porn, ebony nuns.
Speaker 3: I was like, you're up at two in the morning.
Speaker 3: You had to be exactly, you had to be how,
Speaker 3: you know. So he did not tell her. Some of
Speaker 3: the ladies were told by the men in the church
Speaker 3: that I was out in la sitting. So yeah, did
Speaker 3: they Did you ever go back to that church?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I still went to church. I was like probably fourteen
Speaker 1: years fourteen. What was her almost job? My almost job?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, So I actually worked for a telecommunications company
Speaker 3: Reson and I was an operations manager.
Speaker 1: Wow, the same things. Yeah, see all right to the
Speaker 1: highest degree.
Speaker 3: Pedigree hose pedigree, pedigree was your almost poor name, almost
Speaker 3: por name.
Speaker 1: So I went through like a lot of them. I
Speaker 1: I like Mercedes, and I was like, I ben't I
Speaker 1: don't know, you don't want to be a car. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a car. You don't want to
Speaker 1: run out to miles, you know, because we get past
Speaker 1: certain point starting problems with them anyway.
Speaker 3: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to put up myself. So it
Speaker 1: was Mercedes.
Speaker 3: I think at Naomi, of course, because Naomi Campbell, you know,
Speaker 3: dark skin model course is the go to, and I
Speaker 3: feel like I can kind of like get away.
Speaker 4: With that whole shtick like Cherry washing Cherry Hillson. She's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite points. I was too, Yeah, looks
Speaker 4: like Terry Hilson exactly.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just stick right because I was doing
Speaker 1: the long black hair and I'm like, I'll just be
Speaker 1: like Naomi like.
Speaker 3: And then yes, because I love vintage, like like pin
Speaker 3: up and like old school like actresses okay and all that.
Speaker 3: Like I have like a collection of like old playboys
Speaker 3: and like ebony magazines. Yeah, we're the same fucking person.
Speaker 1: We're a little Okay, you're October tenth, you're one day
Speaker 1: before me. What's we're living? That's crazy? March seventeen. I
Speaker 1: sys okay, okay are yeah? Okay, okay. Wait. So even
Speaker 1: though we're I've got a question that I've been wanting
Speaker 1: to ask you.
Speaker 4: I really wanted to ask Advantage gender and Jason Love
Speaker 4: and we have them on and I know you're not
Speaker 4: necessarily from that era, but you know about it. So
Speaker 4: porn there was a huge HIV epidemic, if I'm not mistaken,
Speaker 4: which caused porn to then be made in Miami. Can
Speaker 4: you maybe talk about some of the different safety precautions
Speaker 4: and different things that you've seen in porn, something that
Speaker 4: surprised you, or even just about how safe it.
Speaker 2: Is, especially since Niggas was a photoshopping at COVID results
Speaker 2: in COVID tests and COVID vaccine cards. So like knowing that,
Speaker 2: I guess it's more digital now, but so many things
Speaker 2: can be photoshopped, and like bait.
Speaker 3: They're still doing that because there was a skettle about
Speaker 3: that recently. Really they're still doing that. I don't know
Speaker 3: like why people accept it, but like safety wise, like
Speaker 3: now it's all digital, right and it come from exactly
Speaker 3: comes from that and it's past code protected. So can
Speaker 3: you go to quest lab. Yeah, I wish that'd be
Speaker 3: nice because then we have more looks that way. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what they that's the ones they were photoshopping. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're photoshopping. So like now, like we have the past system,
Speaker 3: which is like once you test and your test clears,
Speaker 3: like all the agencies, all the production companies and other talent,
Speaker 3: we're all in a database and you can see whose
Speaker 3: test is up to date, right, and then when you're
Speaker 3: on set, like you go to the website. Of course
Speaker 3: you use a pass code to get in, so you
Speaker 3: can you know, show them directly on the website. I
Speaker 3: know that you're clear and everything you know, it is good.
Speaker 3: So that's like the main way that they've been able
Speaker 3: to like protect the industry. But there are still people
Speaker 3: who photoshopp or tests, and unfortunately, like I think when
Speaker 3: you're on set, some people just are just they just
Speaker 3: want to get going and they just want to film,
Speaker 3: They want to go home, they want to do it,
Speaker 3: do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: To fuck what I mean, it's a lot of I'm
Speaker 2: seeing that be the case a lot more in being independent,
Speaker 2: Uh yes, because there's so many people being content creators
Speaker 2: and having their own band. It's not doing everything on
Speaker 2: your own. You're not dealing with production companies, and so
Speaker 2: you're kind of leaving it up to hopefully books somebody
Speaker 2: that is being truthful and honest. Yeah we know, niggas
Speaker 2: ain't not here being truthful. No no, well no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: not exactly. Because there's there's there's sides to it. There's
Speaker 2: a content world, right, which is great. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of money in that world. There's more in that world
Speaker 2: in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of those differences content world and
Speaker 1: foreign world.
Speaker 3: So content world like, yeah, you're doing a home you're
Speaker 3: doing your thing, right, but I feel like there's a
Speaker 3: lot more money in it because you're running your own platform.
Speaker 3: The only person you're cutting anything with is like, you know,
Speaker 3: OnlyFans or whatever, like so you other girls too. They're
Speaker 3: also making like a referral Like, so there's a referral service.
Speaker 3: I guess that only fans has, so an OnlyFans content
Speaker 3: creator could say weezy, I have only fans.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring you on the only fans. Here a
Speaker 2: sign up, I'll send you a link, and now I
Speaker 2: get a percentage.
Speaker 1: Of what you exactly right, the same thing content World.
Speaker 1: You can make more money because it's independent. Yeah, controls
Speaker 1: are cons well. The cons are is that like you
Speaker 1: can work with talent who's like flaky or shady.
Speaker 3: You know, they can waste your time, like your money,
Speaker 3: something won't show up, waste your money that can photoshop
Speaker 3: their tests if you're not checking properly. Because it's up
Speaker 3: to both people to check, you know, so you're you're
Speaker 3: you're dealing with. By the way, for all of us
Speaker 3: that don't do foreign this is us too. Yeah, we
Speaker 3: need the same check in seeing where it comes from exactly.
Speaker 3: I would not like even PDF, Like is it from
Speaker 3: the site, click it from the emails.
Speaker 1: I'll just log in. I want to log in. People
Speaker 1: say I'm doing them straight. I just want to see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's porn world.
Speaker 3: Tell us some pros and cons for that for you
Speaker 3: pros and cons. So pros are like, yeah, it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's the full production. It's glamorous, like you have the
Speaker 3: whole team, like you're the photographer, videographer, all of that.
Speaker 3: So you get that right, and then also you get them,
Speaker 3: you do get notoriety for it, you know, you get
Speaker 3: more of a platform, you get bigger, you get more
Speaker 3: exposure than just somebody in the room, like on Twitter
Speaker 3: trying to grind it out. So you get to utilize
Speaker 3: those sinks and that's great.
Speaker 1: The downside of it is there's.
Speaker 3: These companies are only shooting so many times a year,
Speaker 3: and they're I'm not going to shoot you so many
Speaker 3: times a year because I can't shoot a whole catalog
Speaker 3: of you at like ten scenes, you know, within one year.
Speaker 1: That's too much. I was actually going to ask you
Speaker 1: because the women that I meet that do only fans,
Speaker 1: or even the women we interview are men whoever, they
Speaker 1: are talking about how much money they make. It's very
Speaker 1: simple to see how much I do. This show called
Speaker 1: Sex Cells, where we interview people about the business of sex.
Speaker 1: And one of Mandy's friends got me into Evil Angel
Speaker 1: and I asked about how much top stars make for
Speaker 1: shooting a scene. He said, well, like thirty five hundred
Speaker 1: and four thousand, stuff like that, or not even that sometimes,
Speaker 1: And I was like, that sounds so low, and he's like,
Speaker 1: and the Black Girls I know was only making like
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred, but.
Speaker 4: He said, now everybody's seeing this porn, so they can
Speaker 4: make money elsewhere. You just made the comment that it's
Speaker 4: about volume, right, you can't do it enough. So how
Speaker 4: else do you make money in your sex work in
Speaker 4: your life? How else are you like creating jobs for yourself?
Speaker 3: I mean, it's definitely in the content, the content world,
Speaker 3: because if it weren't for OnlyFans like so many of
Speaker 3: us would be kind of stuck in that system of
Speaker 3: just relying on these production companies. And then, honestly, like before,
Speaker 3: only fans like this, it was really hard to get
Speaker 3: into the adult industry. It was gatekeeped, so you really
Speaker 3: had to know somebody to even get signed with an agency.
Speaker 1: So since OnlyFans like now, you know, we do our thing.
Speaker 3: We use the bigger productions to put our name out
Speaker 3: there to stay relevant, right, because you need to be
Speaker 3: seen and heard for people to you know, know where
Speaker 3: to find you. But after that you bring them over
Speaker 3: to your own personal platform and that's where the majority
Speaker 3: of the money is.
Speaker 2: So you doing porn, you doing olifans, I want to
Speaker 2: know you a little personally in saying, do you enjoy
Speaker 2: sex outside of porn?
Speaker 1: Like, I think that's my big question.
Speaker 2: Like are you fucking when you're doing it for money,
Speaker 2: when you're doing it a good job when it's constantly
Speaker 2: in your face? Like do you have a how do
Speaker 2: you enjoy it on a personal level with someone you're
Speaker 2: dating that's someone you really like?
Speaker 1: Or do you do you get hired of it?
Speaker 3: Okay, So honestly, like going into porn, it really actually
Speaker 3: helped like my personal sex life because I was able
Speaker 3: to explore. I was like pretty much like put in
Speaker 3: situations where I had to explore an experiment because they
Speaker 3: were new, and so I learned a lot, you know,
Speaker 3: quite a bit more about my body and what I
Speaker 3: do like and what I don't like. So it's made
Speaker 3: my personal sex fucking amazing. Like have a boot thing
Speaker 3: now the last year. Okay, he's not watching this, he
Speaker 3: watches I have a boot thing now, and like, just
Speaker 3: like a couple of weeks ago, we hired adult performer,
Speaker 3: a male performer to come over and have a threesome,
Speaker 3: you know, because he's never had a threesome in that
Speaker 3: way and he wanted to watch me. Get suggestion it
Speaker 3: was actually his really yes, because he's not a well
Speaker 3: he's he doesn't consider himself a cook.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't likes exactly.
Speaker 3: I don't entirely either, but we we hired a male
Speaker 3: performer to come over because.
Speaker 1: He wanted to watch me.
Speaker 4: I love hearing that a sex worker. And I'm sorry
Speaker 4: if you don't hear that word, but I feel like
Speaker 4: we do sex work too.
Speaker 1: Sex work, that's what it is.
Speaker 4: I love hearing that you were able to pay for
Speaker 4: someone to enjoy and experience in your personal life.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how much does a male performer car? Like?
Speaker 1: Did you have to pay?
Speaker 5: How much?
Speaker 1: If I wanted to ask somebody, what's the going rate?
Speaker 1: Right now? Going right? Okay, go right? For the men
Speaker 1: for the guy I brought. You know, because I'm an
Speaker 1: industry of course I could get discount. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you ever want a such a I mean, tell
Speaker 1: you more industry, I think I could get a discount.
Speaker 1: I'll be like pocat. I mean it's marketing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I didn't ask for it, but you know
Speaker 3: it's like a roupse rewards card. You know, I got,
Speaker 3: I got my little you know, it was given to me.
Speaker 3: It was given to me, right, but for him it
Speaker 3: was eight hundred.
Speaker 1: That was the discount.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He was good, bitch, damns, you gotta tell he was. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: I can show you. I don't know if I can
Speaker 3: say it thought, I can't. I gotta find am I
Speaker 3: gonna find Oh? Okay, did you film it how to
Speaker 3: see and go? I know I'm saying, did you film
Speaker 3: it for yourself? No? No, no, So we actually just
Speaker 3: kept it like private the entire experience because it was
Speaker 3: my first time my booth.
Speaker 1: Thang having that.
Speaker 3: So I really wanted us to just you know, connect together.
Speaker 3: So there was no cameras, no nothing, and we just
Speaker 3: all love that was offered on the start well start
Speaker 3: when we given the other guy head, did you write
Speaker 3: to stop?
Speaker 1: You didn't stuck the book?
Speaker 2: Let me?
Speaker 1: This is what you want you at all while you
Speaker 1: were the other guy. But he wanted but he wanted me.
Speaker 1: He's not a cuff.
Speaker 3: Look at I believe that, but he yeah, you know
Speaker 3: that's for him, that's him off us. But he wanted
Speaker 3: me to you know, like he wanted me to suck
Speaker 3: a stick first. So like the guy was like leaning
Speaker 3: against my you know, my window because I'm gonna hih rise,
Speaker 3: which is dangerous, but hey, adventure. And so he was
Speaker 3: leaning against the window and you know, gave him a
Speaker 3: little bit heads slap your toppy?
Speaker 1: Can I? And then he came behind me, you know,
Speaker 1: finish it? Can I ask the color of these two men?
Speaker 1: The color of these two men?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: One of them is Indian Middle Eastern Okay, okay? And
Speaker 3: then a thing I can't okay entirely said he's European. Okay,
Speaker 3: but he's like the spicy okay, spicy. So yeah, when
Speaker 3: when calling the dude over, did you find it?
Speaker 4: Because you know all, I'm sure at the generic three
Speaker 4: somewhere we're like, oh god, I met you out.
Speaker 1: You're fine.
Speaker 4: And when you're planning this, and especially with someone you
Speaker 4: love and care for, you open the door where you're like,
Speaker 4: oh shit, I got it, like smoke. Like did you
Speaker 4: feel like, because you do born, you were able to
Speaker 4: take control and it was good or were you just like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, this should feel normal.
Speaker 1: How were you feeling during it?
Speaker 3: So I was more concerned about taking care of him
Speaker 3: because it was first for him. Was not a man
Speaker 3: for him, right, so I really just kind of in
Speaker 3: the beginning, I stepped into nicole kit, which is like I'm.
Speaker 1: A like, I'm gonna orchestrate this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna kind of bring us all together, put some
Speaker 3: fun in it, keep it up beats so everybody can relax.
Speaker 3: And then like when I saw that everyone was like
Speaker 3: fully relaxed and comfortable, then I went back into being
Speaker 3: you know myself, and so so I really kind of
Speaker 3: set the turne in the beginning.
Speaker 1: But that was maybe for him.
Speaker 3: I'm only as I never imagine fucking two men at
Speaker 3: the same time, even, I mean that's saying I never
Speaker 3: imagined I was good.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be real, right, I have, and
Speaker 1: it's been real, But I wanted to do it with
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. I don't want to do it with two
Speaker 1: men that I'm not close to, mainly because IVE got
Speaker 1: some weird ego things, so I want to not be
Speaker 1: out before. So that's what I'm saying. When you stepped
Speaker 1: in a cold cake, they come out with you just
Speaker 1: being sexy or you putting music on like how to Go,
Speaker 1: so like into whole mail for weezy.
Speaker 3: So like the guy was younger, he was actually he
Speaker 3: was younger, right, So the well, the guy we hired
Speaker 3: was younger. So I, you know, I put something cute on,
Speaker 3: like a little like softball outfit, you know, like the
Speaker 3: softball shorts.
Speaker 1: Little crop top.
Speaker 3: I was really bouncing and I had like a glass
Speaker 3: of wine beforehand. So when he came out came over,
Speaker 3: I opened the door and sent my booy thing down
Speaker 3: to get him because he had to pick him up
Speaker 3: from the lobby because he didn't want to get lost,
Speaker 3: so he brought him off for I didn't have a.
Speaker 1: Look, Yeah, exactly one. I'm like gets to know which
Speaker 1: at the first, right, So when he came in, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, hi, how were you? Super bubbly, super cute.
Speaker 3: You want something to drink, Let's you know, put some
Speaker 3: music on that's relaxed, like tell me about yourself. Like
Speaker 3: it was really really chill and like casual, and I
Speaker 3: think like just keeping the fun in it, just keeping
Speaker 3: it up beat like that makes it so much easier
Speaker 3: to like do that as a first as long as
Speaker 3: you don't take it too seriously, like everybody, let's do shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, do shots, And we didn't, like we definitely did,
Speaker 1: like we took some shots. You guys exactly. No, you
Speaker 1: got to treat it all the carlish party like.
Speaker 3: You got to treat it like you know, I want
Speaker 3: the first time, the first time. The next time you
Speaker 3: can go you can deep dive and get a little
Speaker 3: bit more sensual. But if it's a first keep it
Speaker 3: fucking fun.
Speaker 2: One of the times I did it, uh, we were
Speaker 2: all supposed to go bowling, so I thought maybe that
Speaker 2: would but then they had me doing edible and we
Speaker 2: didn't make it out the house and it was great.
Speaker 1: It was great, It was great.
Speaker 2: It was a conversation in my last relationship that we
Speaker 2: wanted to like. I kept saying I wanted to do it,
Speaker 2: but we never got there. I think that that's the
Speaker 2: hardest part. I think it's also helps that this was
Speaker 2: his suggestion. I think it's very hard when a woman
Speaker 2: wants to experience it.
Speaker 1: I need another day. Like literally saying that to your
Speaker 1: partner could be really hard.
Speaker 2: I did want to ask what did the aftercare look
Speaker 2: like in you making sure he was still priority number
Speaker 2: one after he just saw you get sucked by another guy?
Speaker 1: How did you reassure your partner afterwards afterwards?
Speaker 3: So he was participating too, so I was I was
Speaker 3: getting double in. I was Eiffel towered, so he was
Speaker 3: he wants participating as well.
Speaker 1: But the aftercare for both.
Speaker 3: Of them actually is I have my my second bathroom,
Speaker 3: and so like I had everything already set up for
Speaker 3: the talent. I had the soap, you know, his towels
Speaker 3: with all that stuff, deodorant set up. So of course,
Speaker 3: like when he was done, I was like, hey, you
Speaker 3: can go to the front one after room. You gotta
Speaker 3: get me set up all other thing.
Speaker 2: I'll be tired and I'll be mad when I got
Speaker 2: go run to the goddamn laundry.
Speaker 1: Ruin grabbed the towel for him, the set up set
Speaker 1: up and ready to go. I was actually gonna ask
Speaker 1: the horrid nerve to end.
Speaker 3: But this is a good It really is like like
Speaker 3: the toothbrush, like all of that, and so I had
Speaker 3: it already. Oh no, but it gets him out quicker,
Speaker 3: I feel like it does. So I had him go
Speaker 3: into the front room and he did his thing, and
Speaker 3: when it came to my partner, of course, you know
Speaker 3: him and I like we did some little a little
Speaker 3: bit of cutting kiss him, and then we both took
Speaker 3: a shower together.
Speaker 1: So everybody in the house was showering.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, okay, I mean honestly, he was
Speaker 3: just saying, go lie, he was so afterwards, you know,
Speaker 3: once we're all showered up, we all got back, you know,
Speaker 3: came back into the commonery of the living room, and
Speaker 3: so at that point, like we just kind of talked
Speaker 3: a little bit, chat a little casually.
Speaker 1: But I feel like a good shower after.
Speaker 3: Something like that is a great way to just decompress,
Speaker 3: becau if you think about like after you like you
Speaker 3: work out or something like that, Like, I feel like
Speaker 3: that's a great space to do that and sometimes like
Speaker 3: it's been intimate.
Speaker 1: For you and your partner. I love that. So that's
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that story that everybody laughed about because the girl
Speaker 4: started crying in the poor some when we were done
Speaker 4: there was because the girl was scorting like crazy and
Speaker 4: it was like a lot of hand stuff, right. I
Speaker 4: was in there with him like trying to wash his hands,
Speaker 4: and I realized he was thinking that I was like
Speaker 4: rushing him, and I was like, oh, I'm trying to
Speaker 4: make this like a thing so we could like talk
Speaker 4: in secret about.
Speaker 1: How sexy this was. I do think cleaning up together
Speaker 1: even in a sex club. All of that.
Speaker 3: Is it's good. I agree, it's you're bringing it to
Speaker 3: an end, but it's not. It doesn't feel forced, it
Speaker 3: doesn't feel.
Speaker 1: Like it feels very let's get this chi off.
Speaker 4: I f yeah, well, I mean a little bit, like
Speaker 4: a little bit with that poor derv before we get
Speaker 4: out of here.
Speaker 1: We needed didn't just give us one was a great
Speaker 1: one for a threesome.
Speaker 4: But I'm saying, like a great sex tip for women
Speaker 4: that are listening that here all the time, that they
Speaker 4: should be fucking like peorn stars.
Speaker 1: Who knows what that means.
Speaker 4: But since we're actually talking to a star and best actress,
Speaker 4: not just not but has the what and we crossing
Speaker 4: our fingers for you for more to hell, Yes you're great.
Speaker 4: What you think to be is a porn star like Tip,
Speaker 4: A porn star like tip, oh god, for average girl listening.
Speaker 4: For the average girl listening a porn star like like tip,
Speaker 4: I would say, be selfish because one thing I didn't
Speaker 4: do before porn is I was always worried about the
Speaker 4: man and when he needed, he's gonna nut anyway and
Speaker 4: do and do okay, because when I'm not around, hell,
Speaker 4: two minutes and thirty seconds in the shower.
Speaker 1: He's good.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't write, so be more selfish. You see
Speaker 3: the girls on set. It's all about us all day, NonStop,
Speaker 3: the camera everything, it's about us. The guy we call
Speaker 3: him stunt cocks. It's it's as a joke. That's what
Speaker 3: Ginger was saying that it was they're spoiling her. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're like stunt cocks, right, So like the guys are
Speaker 3: stunt cocks. We love them, but they work hella hard.
Speaker 3: But that's what they're called for slang, right, And so
Speaker 3: it's all about us. And I found that I really
Speaker 3: was able to learn more about myself, get my partner
Speaker 3: more feedback. When I got selfish, I want to stop
Speaker 3: worrying about what he needed or this or that and that.
Speaker 1: And when it came to my.
Speaker 3: Body in that instance and said, okay, I I know,
Speaker 3: like you know, you eat me out this way, but
Speaker 3: I want you to do this, this, this, and this,
Speaker 3: I was more forward about it. And that's what porn
Speaker 3: taught me, was to be more forward and center myself
Speaker 3: versus that. Because if I'm feeling good and i'm you know,
Speaker 3: I'm going to break up having orgasms, I'm doing all
Speaker 3: of that, he's gonna feel good too, because men usually
Speaker 3: like to see the women in pleasure. And so if
Speaker 3: you really want to get a man really wants to
Speaker 3: get the best out of this woman and the best
Speaker 3: out of sex, and a woman wants to get the
Speaker 3: best out of sex, she will focus on her own
Speaker 3: pleasure because men love seeing that.
Speaker 1: That's what gets some Hart. Thank you for inviting me
Speaker 1: to your tittalk.
Speaker 2: The way I'm looking at you, I'm like, we gotta
Speaker 2: put violins on the back of this. This is a model.
Speaker 1: You think it's gonna be this. No, I love that
Speaker 1: you do, because your pleasure is his pleasure.
Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, just to tell you how true
Speaker 4: what Nicole is saying is about enjoying seeing someone else's pleasure.
Speaker 4: Partners that have dated me say that their favorite part
Speaker 4: of my sexuality with them is that I'm masturbing in
Speaker 4: front of them, like yeah, literally when they come back
Speaker 4: for the shower and I'm like, oh, like, they're excited
Speaker 4: by it.
Speaker 1: They think it's super sexy.
Speaker 4: I have no shame about them watching, like I think
Speaker 4: that seeing you be able to be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna get this, whether you're here or not like this
Speaker 4: is how sexy I feel. I don't want anyone to
Speaker 4: make me feel like like I needed them for my
Speaker 4: own sexuality.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I agree with that that.
Speaker 3: And men will adjust, they'll always address, doesn't matter what's
Speaker 3: going on to adjusts, and they'll they'll make the best
Speaker 3: out of us.
Speaker 1: And do well. Nicole.
Speaker 2: We hope that you get your a war hunt. We
Speaker 2: know that you've been booked and busy today and we're
Speaker 2: just glad that you made it here. Can you let
Speaker 2: our audience know where they can follow you, support you,
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Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 3: You guys can find me on Twitter at the Nicole
Speaker 3: Kit or the nicle Kit. Same thing with Instagram the
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Speaker 4: All of our most popular episodes you've ever had. We're
Speaker 4: guests with disabilities, and I think it's because you know,
Speaker 4: everybody's curious. We all want to know, and it's like
Speaker 4: this is like our secret way of figuring out this
Speaker 4: is your dick work.
Speaker 5: I don't want to keep it focky with you.
Speaker 1: Listen, I go back.
Speaker 5: I was final core injury. When I was eighteen.
Speaker 7: I was in a football scholarship and a lady was
Speaker 7: texting and driving and ran me off the road right
Speaker 7: after practice and I broke my nick in two places.
Speaker 3: Now, your name is Fletcher let's start with that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: you're known on igs Rogan on faith, but some people
Speaker 3: call you the wheelchair nomad.
Speaker 1: Is that right?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Correct? Correct?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I obtained a nickname the wheelchair nomad because I
Speaker 7: do a lot of traveling and moving and grooving.
Speaker 1: How long have you been to say, like how old
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 7: I'm thirty one, twelve twelve, my birthday coming up thirty two,
Speaker 7: I know, right, getting old.
Speaker 1: Getting old for real, for real?
Speaker 4: I know you said, like you know, the texting and driving,
Speaker 4: which is so crazy because we we take for granted
Speaker 4: so much, like we're like technology, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: And like actually just having an experience just to drive
Speaker 4: and not text people can't do anymore. When it happened
Speaker 4: to you, did you think that there was a chance
Speaker 4: that you would walk again? Like what was that experience?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 7: Oh, well, of course, you know saying, being eighteen years young,
Speaker 7: you have the idealization like damn, like I really can't walk,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And especially being an athlete,
Speaker 7: like I've rely on my physical capabilities my entire life,
Speaker 7: and I was blessed enough to receive a football scholarship
Speaker 7: and then when my physical ability was taken away.
Speaker 5: I was like, damn, what I'm gonna do now?
Speaker 7: But you know, fortunately my parents are still education inside
Speaker 7: of me. So I went back to college and got
Speaker 7: a degree in computer science. But it was it was
Speaker 7: tough in the beginning, and because that's the main goal,
Speaker 7: It's like, all right, I need to walk.
Speaker 5: I need to walk. I need to walk. I need
Speaker 5: to walk. But then you start to learn what it
Speaker 5: really means to be paralyzed.
Speaker 7: It was like before I walked, maybe I sh'll learn
Speaker 7: how to put my shirt on first, Maybe I'll learn
Speaker 7: how to give myself dressed.
Speaker 5: You know, it's like levels to it. It ain't just
Speaker 5: like not being able to walk.
Speaker 1: What were basic things that you like that were super frustrated?
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. I mean it's been what twelve
Speaker 1: thirteen years.
Speaker 5: Now, thirteen years up?
Speaker 4: What was something basic that you were like, fuck, I
Speaker 4: can't do this and it was difficult for you basic
Speaker 4: needs with yourself.
Speaker 7: In the beginning, or like now that I'm thirty thirty one,
Speaker 7: because it changed throughout the times, tell us so like
Speaker 7: you know, like being honest, like when I was eighteen,
Speaker 7: I got hurt and then you paralyzed. First day eighteen
Speaker 7: yr thing? Can I still have six? Like that's the
Speaker 7: first day you started thinking of was.
Speaker 1: You fucking that young?
Speaker 5: When did you start fucking now?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 5: You can't tell nobody, But I lost my virginia at fourteen.
Speaker 1: That ain't the man, wow it is that.
Speaker 5: Was too young to be doing what I was doing.
Speaker 5: I don't forget boys best. Yeah. I got here for
Speaker 5: the first time in seventh grade and I lost my
Speaker 5: virginia in the eighth grade.
Speaker 1: Yep, that's not about you didn't think it is your
Speaker 1: dick on work? But did it work?
Speaker 5: What's so? That's what you know.
Speaker 7: You go to the doctors and they give you all
Speaker 7: you know, the blue diamonds and all the sea alicies
Speaker 7: and all that stuff.
Speaker 5: So you know, everybody's body is different, so what might work?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you get it right to it? Well, I
Speaker 5: was still fresh in my injury.
Speaker 7: So like after like a year of like all right,
Speaker 7: before you start thinking about that, let's work on therapy,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So after that accident, you went a year then not
Speaker 1: having sex because they wanted to.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say I would say like a year.
Speaker 5: I would say like a year and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 5: did you Did you have.
Speaker 2: Any excess that you was fucking before the injury that
Speaker 2: came back and fucked you after the injury.
Speaker 1: No, not to give you pity pussy.
Speaker 5: No not not not not before and not before and after.
Speaker 5: I wished, but not before and after.
Speaker 7: So like unfortunately the situation I was involved in, just
Speaker 7: being young, she ended up breaking up with me when
Speaker 7: I was in the hospital.
Speaker 5: And uh no, she didn't. I won't even call it that.
Speaker 5: She she good people. She was just young. How did
Speaker 5: she do it? How did she do it?
Speaker 1: No? Fuck her?
Speaker 5: See, I ain't that type of nigga. I can't do
Speaker 5: it like that. Like I can't, you know, second do it.
Speaker 5: That's still my homie.
Speaker 7: She was just like because I was a freshman in college,
Speaker 7: she was a senior in high school, and she was
Speaker 7: just like, you know, Flitch, everybody's been coming up to
Speaker 7: me house, Fleitch, house, Flitch.
Speaker 5: I've had to check into therapy. I can't.
Speaker 7: I just need a break from everything, you know. I
Speaker 7: think it's the best if we just, you know, take
Speaker 7: some time apart. And I was like, bitch, I mean
Speaker 7: I see you, Like I didn't want to, like this
Speaker 7: ain't the time for this at least wait till I
Speaker 7: got to a regular room.
Speaker 1: That part, I'm like, there, she could have waited a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 5: When I get it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: Like, plus being in that quote unquote star athlete and
Speaker 7: then being paralyzed, you think, you know, she eighteen, She
Speaker 7: don't have to take care of this, nigga.
Speaker 5: She don't have to do this, You don't have to
Speaker 5: do that. But then the nigga bossed up and was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: Damn matn flesher out here doing this thing, So I
Speaker 5: do have a question.
Speaker 1: Weird chair, she got shot