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Speaker 2: The Cowboys lose again. Forty nine Ers beat the Cowboys
Speaker 2: thirty to twenty four, needing a touchdown to take the lead.
Speaker 2: Dallas goes four and out four straight incompletions and they
Speaker 2: lose thirty to twenty four. If you can't beat the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers, debo ends up going out. Jennings was
Speaker 2: already out. Au Is out. Yeah, McCaffrey is out.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: If you can't beat them with the limited offensive weapons
Speaker 2: that they have, I don't know when you're going to
Speaker 2: be able to beat them. Because we know if they
Speaker 2: had a full arsenal, they probably win by twenty. They
Speaker 2: probably win by three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: They might have put a forty tonight. They might have
Speaker 1: been forty five points. Listen, I really I thought the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: coming off of by week, I thought it would have
Speaker 1: been a better showing the offensively. Defensively, the can't stop
Speaker 1: the run. So I'm not sure what they are right, Dak, Dak,
Speaker 1: you can't turn them all over. That didn't play well.
Speaker 1: He didn't play well. I know, at the end of
Speaker 1: the game it might look like from a statistical standpoint
Speaker 1: that Dak played well. As far as the yardist that
Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb was able to get, I don't. I hate
Speaker 1: to call it garbage sign, but it is garbage. It
Speaker 1: was because the forty nine ers basically playing damn their
Speaker 1: pre premen defense, not basically they stopped playing defense, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what they need to do it. It's
Speaker 1: getting scary for them because everybody else in that division
Speaker 1: is playing well. The commanders. It's amazing we're getting the
Speaker 1: quarterback and do for a franchise in such a short
Speaker 1: time that fast. They look good. The Eagles playing well.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that. I'm curious with Jerry's gonna say.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: He can't say nothing because he put this roster together.
Speaker 2: Remember how you wanted us to pat him on the back,
Speaker 2: O Joy for the roster that he done. Everybody is
Speaker 2: here either I either I have selected him or it
Speaker 2: was it came across my deskite.
Speaker 3: You picked that roster?
Speaker 1: Did that?
Speaker 2: Those defensive linemen that getn't run through like Sherman went
Speaker 2: through Atlanta, that's you. Yeah, and didn't he said, thirty
Speaker 2: six attempts, Oh jo hello, thirty six attempts two hundred
Speaker 2: and twenty three yards, two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: That's nasty work. That's nasty work. But then Jerry say,
Speaker 1: as a GM and the owner, there's nobody else that
Speaker 1: is better suited to do the job than him though, right.
Speaker 2: That's what he said. Okay, but a lot don't care
Speaker 2: who tell it. I'm just making sure.
Speaker 1: Listen, I was, and I picked the for the No,
Speaker 1: it's funny I picked the Cowboys win. I picked the
Speaker 1: Cowboys to win simply because the forty niners were depleted
Speaker 1: some of the weapons. Well, yeah, uh, Jennings was out,
Speaker 1: Brendan Ayuk was out. I wasn't sure if Divo was
Speaker 1: going to play.
Speaker 3: And he played, but then he ended up leaving.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he ended whatever it was towards the end of
Speaker 1: the game. Though it was towards the end of the game.
Speaker 1: He played them, but they needed him on that.
Speaker 2: They lead him on that last drive, the drive before
Speaker 2: they ended up going, you know, had to punt the ball.
Speaker 2: That's when you need a Devo. That's when you need
Speaker 2: a quality guy, somebody that you can count on. Is like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know what, Yeah, I could lie. He can make plays.
Speaker 2: I know I can go give him the ball. But
Speaker 2: I like, you know what, I like. I like the
Speaker 2: way pretty played in the second half. I thought he
Speaker 2: left a lot of players on the field. In the
Speaker 2: first half. He threw had a third down, he threw
Speaker 2: it behind Debo, He had an incut that was wide open.
Speaker 3: He had to dig and he throw it in the
Speaker 3: check down the kittle.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro Colmley is not gonna get any more
Speaker 2: open then what he was on that dig right on
Speaker 2: the gig we call it in whatever you want to
Speaker 2: call it. He's never gonna get even any more open
Speaker 2: than what he was on that route. He wasn't sure
Speaker 2: about himself, and that's really one of the first times
Speaker 2: that I've seen pretty unsure about himself. He had debo
Speaker 2: on the shallow Cross. He threw it behind him, telling him.
Speaker 1: What you can't read. It's hard to reach back and
Speaker 1: grab that. It's hard to reach back and grab that.
Speaker 3: Oh til you're talking to you and I understand that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the casual fan at home, the people at home
Speaker 2: that never caught passes, Oh, it touched your hands.
Speaker 1: You can't catch You can't stop now, stop.
Speaker 2: Foolish, that's bosh. You're talking to the people that played.
Speaker 2: You got twelve plus year in the NFL. I got fourteen,
Speaker 2: We got a bunch of Pro bowls, we got a
Speaker 2: bunch of All Pro, we got over we got over
Speaker 2: seven fifteen hundred catches between the two of us. Yes, sir, so,
Speaker 2: I think we know what we're talking about. We said,
Speaker 2: that's one of the hardest catches. You're running full speed
Speaker 2: that way, you try to open your health to get
Speaker 2: your helps around and the ball.
Speaker 3: It's hard. It's a hard catch to make.
Speaker 1: Even even though he did miss him. He did miss
Speaker 1: some throws. What he did do very well is extend players, yeah,
Speaker 1: and making them and making plays off script using his legs.
Speaker 1: And you don't really see Purty as as one that is,
Speaker 1: as a as a dual threat quarterback. But he did
Speaker 1: really well at extending plays and running for running for
Speaker 1: first downs when there was really nothing opens when the
Speaker 1: pocket broke down him being able to escape. He did
Speaker 1: that very very well tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, just like well, he's unsure of his receivers.
Speaker 2: All you can ask your receivers to do is be
Speaker 2: where they're supposed to be. If they're where they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be, when your back foot hit, let the ball go.
Speaker 2: I don't give a damn who it is. You could
Speaker 2: be throwing the ass. If when your back foot hit
Speaker 2: and Ashton fifteen coming back towards the ball, you let
Speaker 2: that mofo go, oh joe, if you if you hit
Speaker 2: a five, you running a speed out when not joking,
Speaker 2: hit ten and rolled the twelve.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let the ball go.
Speaker 3: Gotta be gone.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who's running the route. All you want
Speaker 2: him to do is to be in the place where
Speaker 2: he's supposed to be. That's what creates uncertainty. But hey,
Speaker 2: the dude's driving back to you. He's fifteen, he's coming
Speaker 2: back towards you.
Speaker 3: Let it go.
Speaker 2: The mere fact that he took the check down let
Speaker 2: me know that he was uncertain with that. You know,
Speaker 2: he skipped cat Conley on another end, break your route
Speaker 2: and he skipped it, almost skipped it to it.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. He's heard about him having uncertainty
Speaker 1: of himself. He might have an uncertainty with the person
Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball to. That that could be possibility
Speaker 1: as well, because that the trust might not be there
Speaker 1: just yet.
Speaker 2: It is, but all you can ask him to be
Speaker 2: now if he wasn't where he was supposed to to be,
Speaker 2: and you gotta and you gotta do this, but y'all
Speaker 2: you drop back in your back foot hit and he's
Speaker 2: at fifteen coming back.
Speaker 1: You gotta let you gotta be gone.
Speaker 3: Hell, you throw it to him in practice?
Speaker 1: Hey, you know it's funny now that you mentioned that,
Speaker 1: that's where the trust starts. Yeah, those players repetitive, Yes,
Speaker 1: repetitive practice. So if you if you, if you hesitate
Speaker 1: the game, that means in practice, it might not have
Speaker 1: went as well as it should because for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: when you when you run certain players in practice and
Speaker 1: you get in the rhythm with the receiver, it comes
Speaker 1: like clockwork. Before you've been out that break, the ball
Speaker 1: is already gone because you know where he's going to be.
Speaker 1: You anticipated, I know, it's I know Kyle. Kyle is
Speaker 1: a lot like his dad. Yeah, what the hell you
Speaker 1: holding on the ball for? So what's his death supposed
Speaker 1: to be?
Speaker 2: Right? Fifteen? How deep you think he was? Fifteen? So
Speaker 2: what the hell you and throw it to? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he opened.
Speaker 2: He He's not gonna get any open, more open than
Speaker 2: what he was on that play, definitely. And those are
Speaker 2: the players. Hey, coach, I threw it to him. He
Speaker 2: dropped it, That's that's on him. I've done my job.
Speaker 2: My job is to throw it to the guy. If
Speaker 2: he drop it, that's on him. Hey, what happened on
Speaker 2: that player? I don't know he coming off the field.
Speaker 3: Ask him. But I threw it to him.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's all I got for you. Oh yo, right man?
Speaker 2: At some point in time, Oh y'all, if you can't
Speaker 2: stop the run, it's damn there.
Speaker 3: Impossible to win in this league.
Speaker 1: It was nasty working on the runn night. That's been there,
Speaker 1: kidies here all season long to hell last season two.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, Yes, it's bad. It's bad.
Speaker 2: They built to play with the lead. And that's fine
Speaker 2: to have undersized linemen if you got a lead and
Speaker 2: a team can't run the ball. But what happens when
Speaker 2: you don't have the lead and you got those lots.
Speaker 2: Look at thirteen. Thirteen is a safety playing linebacker?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, oh yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: You better have some You better have some guys.
Speaker 2: They got some damn bricks in their back pocket to
Speaker 2: drop anchor on your ass once.
Speaker 1: One of them linemen when them pulling guards, get ahold
Speaker 1: of thirteen or anybody you know basically in that in
Speaker 1: that second tier, that second level. Yes they ride, They
Speaker 1: riding them all the way to the sideline.
Speaker 3: But look at all the look at the guys.
Speaker 2: They got angular guys, oh jo, They got guys looking
Speaker 2: to try to shoot the gap.
Speaker 3: You know, they looking to get up field, and you
Speaker 3: can get upfield.
Speaker 2: If I got a fourteen point lead, I got a
Speaker 2: seventeen to twenty one point lead, So now I've taken
Speaker 2: you out of the running game. Because you're behind. I
Speaker 2: know you're not gonna run, and so you're gonna run periodically.
Speaker 2: I give you ten yards, but you running the football,
Speaker 2: you'll run out of time trying to catch up. So
Speaker 2: I know you want to throw the football. This is embarrassing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is embarrassing by the Cowboys because you look at
Speaker 2: what you look at what the Saints did to them.
Speaker 3: You look at what the Ravens did to them. Who
Speaker 3: else to be? Look at me?
Speaker 2: Pull up the schedule and I can, I can, I
Speaker 2: can tell you who ran the ball down there?
Speaker 1: Fucking that that says the Ravens game was that was?
Speaker 1: That was nasty work?
Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no no. Some other people rant
Speaker 2: it worse than did them do them dirty? Yeah, Steelers
Speaker 2: ran the ball? Who Lions? It was the Lion?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh you know, you know a funny thing when
Speaker 1: you talk about the Lions. The Lions running the ball
Speaker 1: on everybody.
Speaker 3: Everybody.
Speaker 1: They running the ball on everybody. So I mean, if
Speaker 1: if they can't stop the run, they're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to be anybody. If they can't play from
Speaker 1: a lead, even if they do have a lead, The
Speaker 1: fact that they can't stop the run, the team is
Speaker 1: probably gonna catch up because that means the offense has
Speaker 1: to be that much more perfect every time they had
Speaker 1: the ball, and.
Speaker 2: It's puts a lot of pressure on your offense. Here
Speaker 2: there tonight they ran the ball nineteen times for fifty
Speaker 2: six yards.
Speaker 3: That's not even three yards.
Speaker 2: That's that's is that three yards a cab that's not
Speaker 2: even three yards, But that's two point nine something because
Speaker 2: nineteen times three be fifty seven.
Speaker 3: They have fifty six.
Speaker 1: But how do you only have fifty six yards with
Speaker 1: the backs you have? You got, you got, you got Elliott,
Speaker 1: you got you.
Speaker 2: Got for thirty four, number for twelve. See kevon Turk
Speaker 2: and he had one for eleven. He had like a
Speaker 2: jet sweep.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh my goodness, man, listen, Oh you can't stop
Speaker 1: the run and you can't run the ball. Something something
Speaker 1: got to give.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna give you a recipe for getting
Speaker 2: your ass kick.
Speaker 3: You can't run it.
Speaker 2: Big help of the thatth you can't stop to run
Speaker 2: a bigger help of the day.
Speaker 1: But matter of fact, I got a question for you. You
Speaker 1: played for a very long time. Let's say you were
Speaker 1: part of the Cowboys personnel. What would be the answer
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys? What do they need to do based
Speaker 1: on what they have now? You can't go out and
Speaker 1: get any new players. You got Michael coming back at
Speaker 1: some point, I'm not sure when.
Speaker 3: You're him and dlau coming back? Yeah for sure.
Speaker 1: What is the answer. What is the answer to fix
Speaker 1: the problems they have right now?
Speaker 2: There are no answers? Oh choe, So the season's over. No,
Speaker 2: you got to play the games, but you don't. I
Speaker 2: don't have the person nail. I don't have guys that
Speaker 2: are big enough, that are stout enough to be able
Speaker 2: to stand in there and protect me against the run,
Speaker 2: because they getting up on your second.
Speaker 3: Level every time.
Speaker 1: Every time, I.
Speaker 2: Mean they scooped, they scoop blocking and slip blocking up
Speaker 2: to the second level every single time they come. What
Speaker 2: we mean by combo, that means they're doubling and then
Speaker 2: they push the end and then they go to the linebacker,
Speaker 2: or they'll scoop. They'll scoop their tackle and get up
Speaker 2: on the linebacker. So another word is two against one
Speaker 2: and then they gets to the next level, or they
Speaker 2: do it with a tight end. They'll do it with
Speaker 2: a tight end and a tackle. They'll do it. If
Speaker 2: you notice they do a lot of motion with the
Speaker 2: tight end. He'll push the end on to make sure
Speaker 2: he secured the edge, and then he's gone up to
Speaker 2: the second level and here comes the back right behind it.
Speaker 2: They don't have the person nail because they're built to
Speaker 2: play with the lead you anticipate. We got that. We
Speaker 2: played sixty million for a quarterback. We got a thirty
Speaker 2: four million dollar wide receiver. But you don't have anybody
Speaker 2: outside of that thirty four million dollar wide receiver.
Speaker 3: You have no resemblance of a run game.
Speaker 2: You can't run the ball even if you wanted to,
Speaker 2: and you don't attempt to most of the time, because
Speaker 2: that's why you had thirty eight pass attempts and you
Speaker 2: had nineteen rush attempts. So you can't run the ball,
Speaker 2: you can't stop the run. So a team is just
Speaker 2: that just grind you down to the no.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe the Cowboys are a banning the
Speaker 1: run too fast. Maybe they're banning the run way too fast.
Speaker 1: Because if if you said Zeke had what how many
Speaker 1: carries he had?
Speaker 3: Zeke had ten carries for thirty four yards.
Speaker 1: And okay, and obviously you said Dave Davin had Dalvin
Speaker 1: had six.
Speaker 3: Had six for twelve yards.
Speaker 1: Maybe they need to balance it out a little bit more,
Speaker 1: because every time you run the ball, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: hit every time. Sometime you're gonna go Sometime you get one,
Speaker 1: sometime you go two yards. Sometimes you might get fired.
Speaker 1: But at some point, if you keep chopping wood, like
Speaker 1: coach Lewis you just said, you keep chopping wood, at
Speaker 1: some point, I'm gonna break.
Speaker 2: Well, I tell you what, I'm gonna give you a hatchet,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna let you go try to chop down
Speaker 2: a giant red wood, and I'm gonna see how long
Speaker 2: it's gonna take you, because that's what the cowboys are
Speaker 2: trying to do. They're trying to chop down a red
Speaker 2: wood or a secoya with an effing hatchet. This ain't
Speaker 2: David Crockett. You ain't Daniel Boone. I understand because when
Speaker 2: you look at it, Ojo, when that comes out of
Speaker 2: the half and he throws then interception.
Speaker 3: Right, they go down score boom.
Speaker 2: So now with a different ball gain now it's thirteen ten,
Speaker 2: guess what they go right down to pre boom they
Speaker 2: score again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So now you're down two scores.
Speaker 2: You ain't got no running game, right, I know you
Speaker 2: can't run the ball. And then boom, guess what we
Speaker 2: score again. Now we got you down three. Now we
Speaker 2: got you down three scores again, we got you down seventeen.
Speaker 1: And now you don't have no choice.
Speaker 3: You ain't got no choice but to throw it. He
Speaker 3: ain't frie to run the ball.
Speaker 2: First of all, why would I hand the ball to
Speaker 2: a guy that's averaging three yards to carry another guy
Speaker 2: that's averaged two yards of carry? Where are going to
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage? So every time if you look
Speaker 2: at it, think about it, Ojo. When the Cowboys on
Speaker 2: second down it's second and ten or second to eight
Speaker 2: or more, I mean, what DA's supposed to do with that.
Speaker 2: I'm not excusing Daktion throwing those interceptions, but I'm saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's hard to keep overcoming second and eight, second and ten,
Speaker 2: third and eight, third and ten. At some point in time,
Speaker 2: it needs to be third to one to three. That's
Speaker 2: why I first, it needs to be second, second in
Speaker 2: three to five. That's why first down is the most
Speaker 2: important first down. To me, it is the most important
Speaker 2: down to make sure, your third down is very menitable
Speaker 2: and it.
Speaker 1: Opens up your plate. But because there's so many different
Speaker 1: things you can do with a third and two or
Speaker 1: third and three, yeah, third and five. Now anything outside
Speaker 1: of that, you know, it gets trickiest. There is the
Speaker 1: mean a coin a coin flip on way.
Speaker 2: To get the first because if you look at it,
Speaker 2: because they're playing from behind the sticks, it's hard to
Speaker 2: play a football game like that and win a football
Speaker 2: game when you're constantly behind the sticks. And that's what
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are. It's second and long, it's third and long,
Speaker 2: and yeah, you get a few of those, but over
Speaker 2: the course of a game, h it don't operate like that.
Speaker 2: But but the Cowboys don't look good. They don't oh
Speaker 2: Joe right, they don't look good. The offensive line really
Speaker 2: isn't that good. Zach Martin is not what he used
Speaker 2: to be. They hold a lot and so it's a
Speaker 2: lot of pressure on them because you can't run the ball,
Speaker 2: and the team, the opposing team knows that.
Speaker 3: It's hard to keep the moods off.
Speaker 1: Your joke about speaking of them not looking good. Do
Speaker 1: you see who the next three games.
Speaker 2: Yes, they go down the road Atlanta, Atlanta plays some
Speaker 2: damn good football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got Atlanta. They got the Falcons, that.
Speaker 2: Is Atlanta Falcons. Atlanta are the Falcons. I think they
Speaker 2: got the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Atlanta they got, they got the Eagles.
Speaker 3: They got back to back week with birds.
Speaker 1: Hey, hold on, it's another it's another difficult one. Right
Speaker 1: after that, though.
Speaker 2: They got they got Atlanta. They got they got Atlanta,
Speaker 2: they got the Eagles, and they got the Texans. And
Speaker 2: then they got the Commanders. Oh, you know Washington Commanders.
Speaker 2: So if you say commanders, yeah, they got Washington. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 1: Could could it could be on four, it could be
Speaker 1: on fo Yeah, for sure, on five coming out to buy.
Speaker 2: Then were doing better than the Cowboys. I bet you that.
Speaker 2: I don't know how we do it, but I know
Speaker 2: we're doing better than the Cowboys. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2: If your team did not win today, I don't want
Speaker 2: to hear you say foot or ball. If your team
Speaker 2: didn't we if your team won today, say football all
Speaker 2: your life, say yes.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes here.
Speaker 2: But if your team didn't win it if your team
Speaker 2: lost by more than ten points, and if you do
Speaker 2: and the only way you're allowed to speak, if you're
Speaker 2: on a podcast. If your team loves about more than ten,
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear nothing.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles got lucky today, but we get to that.
Speaker 2: We get that boy did beat the boy. They moley
Speaker 2: wapa at home.
Speaker 1: Ain't no milly walk. That was garbage time. Points now
Speaker 1: garbage time.
Speaker 2: You know why, you know how your garbage time because
Speaker 2: they say, hey, let's clean up the garbage because that's
Speaker 2: what was on the field. We play it against garbage,
Speaker 2: y'all trash. I know you don't want to. That's your
Speaker 2: team and you should ride with them. But I told
Speaker 2: you your defense, your defense suck and then your offense suck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whoa listen for us, this for this for us
Speaker 1: this year, the defense has been here. It's been our
Speaker 1: cuties here. I'm just gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: You do realize that y'all got beat by the Patriots,
Speaker 2: So what would they excuse you that one?
Speaker 1: That's that's week one. You know, we one of the
Speaker 1: we wanted to toss. You got starters that didn't play
Speaker 1: any games in the preseason, So it's depending on on
Speaker 1: how will you run your office.
Speaker 2: That's most of the starters. That's most of the starters
Speaker 2: on the team who plays in the preseason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right right. That's why it says a tasso
Speaker 1: when who wins the game, whoever executes whoever executes their
Speaker 1: game playing the most and makes the least errors most
Speaker 1: of the time. When it comes a week one game,
Speaker 1: that's who wins. Until all in the rhythm now right now?
Speaker 1: Week seven? You're young?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, y'all were heard in the week this was
Speaker 3: week what they call this week eight? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This we gate on or seven?
Speaker 3: Yeah, week eight?
Speaker 1: You better listen. Our offense don't really get rolled until
Speaker 1: you get to about week four.
Speaker 3: Nah, you don't think so it is week? Is you
Speaker 3: in week eight?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: So you a month passed?
Speaker 1: And I know I talk about early in the season.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, so when your defense given okay, if your
Speaker 2: office get rolling about week four or when your defif
Speaker 2: kick in?
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, defense is read and react, baby reader.
Speaker 2: Okay, when y'all gonna react, can y'all read? I mean
Speaker 2: what what they need? What y'all y'all? Can you can
Speaker 2: you read your needed?
Speaker 3: And brail?
Speaker 2: I mean what it is? Because I'm going on with
Speaker 2: the bigg I don't know what's going on with the
Speaker 2: big man.
Speaker 1: Hey, I don't know, man, I'm hurt, man, and I
Speaker 1: got I got fans. Everybody told me they want to
Speaker 1: fire Zach Taylor. They saying the play the play calling
Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean, I'm I'm just I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: I'm telling you what I'm hearing from the fans. They're
Speaker 1: blaming the coaching They're blaming the coaching staff. But listen,
Speaker 1: when you come into a game with a game plan,
Speaker 1: it's up to the players to execute the exit and nose.
Speaker 1: That's all they come down to. That's all they come
Speaker 1: down to. It don't matter who's calling it. It don't
Speaker 1: matter who's calling it.
Speaker 2: He called those same plays. Now when y'all were wining,
Speaker 2: y'all say nothing about that. No, you say, fans are Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why if you listen to him, you'll be up
Speaker 2: there with.
Speaker 1: Him in the stands.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Somebody coaches listen to the fan, Yeah, and pretty soon
Speaker 2: you wouldjoin them up up in there in.
Speaker 1: The stand Somebody, somebody, somebody sent me. Somebody sent me
Speaker 1: a meme or a gift that had Bill Belichick and
Speaker 1: the Bengals hoodie as a coach with the sleeves has.
Speaker 2: Paul Brown, I mean, excuse me, uh not, Paul, my dad,
Speaker 2: Mike Brown too.
Speaker 1: We spent a little money in the off season. Now
Speaker 1: we spent a little.
Speaker 3: Money, yeah, very little.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, y'all spent most of the money last
Speaker 2: year when y'all resigned. Joe, you got Old Brown. You
Speaker 2: got Old Brown Junior. So y'all feeling, But you know
Speaker 2: who y'all really miss? Jesse Based the third.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good one.
Speaker 3: He balling in Atlanta.
Speaker 1: He cutting a free balling, He is balling.
Speaker 3: He was the quarterback of your second day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but they did, they didn't. But I ain't
Speaker 1: want to pay.
Speaker 3: I've been told y'all to stop all that talking.
Speaker 2: But the forty nine Ers win at home, go to
Speaker 2: five hundred four and four with a thirty twenty fourth
Speaker 2: victory over the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys fall to three
Speaker 2: and four and fall way way behind division leader Washington
Speaker 2: Commanders for six and two. And I think the Eagles
Speaker 2: are five and three if I'm not mistaken. The two
Speaker 2: and a half games, so the three and four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: The Cowboys next four opponents, Atlanta, Philly, Houston, Washington are
Speaker 2: combined twenty two and nine. They had three kickoff penalties.
Speaker 2: How you can y'all get lined up on the kickoff
Speaker 2: illegal formation? Bro?
Speaker 3: What y'all doing?
Speaker 1: What is that is not lined up where they should
Speaker 1: be right before the ball is kick right.
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott is the first Cowboys quarterback with multiple interceptions
Speaker 2: in three straight games since nineteen ninety two. Those, oh
Speaker 2: those Cowboys, Troy Aikman. That was the first, and they
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl. They ended up blowing out
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills. Yeah, I know, that's a nice little
Speaker 2: that's a nice little caveat of it there saying, oh bad,
Speaker 2: look what we did. Bad day. Ain, don't worry about it,
Speaker 2: Troy Lennard, forget about it. Go back and look at
Speaker 2: that roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah what they had.
Speaker 2: Look at your roster, Look at that defensive roster, and
Speaker 2: look at your roster.
Speaker 3: Ohho.
Speaker 2: The Pats come from behind to beat the New York
Speaker 2: Jets twenty five twenty sou twenty two.
Speaker 3: Excuse me.
Speaker 2: They begin the season with Super Bowl aspiration and now
Speaker 2: their playoff dreams are starting to slowly played fade away
Speaker 2: two and six with a five game losing street heavily favorite,
Speaker 2: the Jet Jets came unraveled and every possible way falling
Speaker 2: to zero and three hundred. Jeff overt on the Waddy
Speaker 2: Johnson decision to five Roberts Sally after only five games.
Speaker 2: Clearly that's backfire. Yeah, Pat Devon Goucher, is it gout y'all?
Speaker 2: On Aaron Rodgers. I think he's struggling right now. Just
Speaker 2: a Hall of Fame quarterback like that. I hate to
Speaker 2: see him go out that way. He definitely don't look
Speaker 2: the same. Ish I can run him down and catch you.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow, Now you remember Ojo, We had this conversation. I say,
Speaker 2: you bring a guy like Aaron Rodgers. I say, you're
Speaker 2: hoping that the defense is exactly what they are, if
Speaker 2: not better. You're hoping the guy that you're getting is
Speaker 2: what he was where he.
Speaker 1: Was at Lord, you got it at least a little
Speaker 1: bit of what he was.
Speaker 2: You tell me.
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers looked like at what part? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He can make a throw here there, but not nearly
Speaker 2: enough his deep. If that defense don't hold a team
Speaker 2: to twelve point, they're not winning. They're not winning now.
Speaker 2: I want to know what the excuse is now, because
Speaker 2: the last four weeks he has to play better. Right,
Speaker 2: he said, you know what happen when you start to
Speaker 2: get old. You know what you need to do, but
Speaker 2: you just can't do it.
Speaker 1: Your body can't do it no more.
Speaker 3: The mind is willing, Yeah, the body just ain't able.
Speaker 3: It won't register. I need to play better. I need
Speaker 3: to play better.
Speaker 2: And what you can do like when you're young, you bro,
Speaker 2: you can rap up big game after big game after
Speaker 2: big game. As you start the age, they get father
Speaker 2: and father in between. You have one good game week
Speaker 2: week one, and then it might be week four or
Speaker 2: five six before you have another, and then it's week
Speaker 2: ten before you have another one. Anybody out there tell
Speaker 2: me Aaron Rodgers look like? Tell me that you've ever
Speaker 2: seen Aaron Rodgers look like he looks right now. But
Speaker 2: when I tried to tell you he was forty. When
Speaker 2: I tried to tell you he's coming off in a
Speaker 2: killes injury, Oh.
Speaker 3: You hate me.
Speaker 2: He still got no four MVPs. Okay, he got those
Speaker 2: four EVPs. How you looking?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough. You know what funny? The funny thing
Speaker 1: about it is we talk about Aaron Rodgers not looking
Speaker 1: like the Aaron Rodgers for us to seeing, especially when
Speaker 1: you is that green Bay. If Aaron Rodgers is playing
Speaker 1: as bad as he is now, then that means the
Speaker 1: people around him have to play that much, have to
Speaker 1: play better. They have to that's what have better to
Speaker 1: hide the handicap or the weakness that is that. I mean,
Speaker 1: thank you just playing right now.
Speaker 2: As you get older at Oo Joe, as you get
Speaker 2: older as a human, what do you need to get
Speaker 2: by people to help you more? Maybe you need people
Speaker 2: to come in and help you prepare your meal, help
Speaker 2: you to get dressed right, help you to drive. As
Speaker 2: an athlete, you need more talent around you. You need
Speaker 2: better receivers, You need a better running game. You need
Speaker 2: an offensive line to protect you. You need a defense
Speaker 2: that can stand on their head.
Speaker 1: But he has the receiver's uncle. We got DeVante Adams,
Speaker 1: We have Garrett Wilson, we have Allen Lazard. You have
Speaker 1: a superstar, a star running back in Brest Hall. That
Speaker 1: there should be There should be no excuses at to
Speaker 1: this point, there should be no reason why they just
Speaker 1: are okay.
Speaker 2: So if you gave me okay, you got Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 2: you got Davante Adams, you got Breefe Hall, you got
Speaker 2: Alan So what's the excuse.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know that he's gotta be something that you
Speaker 2: just told me. Chad, y'all hurt. Ojo said it. He
Speaker 2: said they got better weapons than what they had for
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson. I know that's what Ojo told me. They said,
Speaker 2: if we get a quarterback, were gonna be fine. You
Speaker 2: just rattle off Garrett Wilson. You just rattle off Davonte Adams,
Speaker 2: You just rattle off Breefe Hall, you just rattle off Allen. Now,
Speaker 2: I need to know what's the problem if he has
Speaker 2: all those weapons. I don't know, but everyone I now,
Speaker 2: you don't let me finish.
Speaker 1: In order for Aaron Rodgers to play at maximum potential,
Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson, DeVante Adams, and Breese Hall have to be
Speaker 1: that much better. They just have to be that much
Speaker 1: better to over.
Speaker 2: That's why they brought him in there. I thought he
Speaker 2: they brought him in there to make them better.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Completely, Okay, we blame Okay, we blamed Robert Salah, he
Speaker 2: lost his job. Nathaniel Hackett got demoted. Yeah, okay, you
Speaker 2: just told me. Ain't nobody gonna say Rogers. Everybody said Sola.
Speaker 2: Everybody said a Hacket. We got Davonte, You traded and
Speaker 2: got Davonte, You got an offensive player of the year
Speaker 2: and Garrett Wilson, I mean, rookie of the year. Ain't
Speaker 2: nobody gonna say the arbus. Ain't nobody gonna say.
Speaker 1: The option I said, I said, I said the quarterback
Speaker 1: was a problem.
Speaker 3: Anyway, said the quarterbacks name Aaron Rodgers. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said that already. I was just saying. I
Speaker 1: said Aaron Rodgers was the problem. That's why I said,
Speaker 1: everyone else has to play that much better. If he's
Speaker 1: not playing well, everybody else got to be on point.
Speaker 2: But if if hold on, if that was the case,
Speaker 2: you could have kept you could have kept Zach Wilson
Speaker 2: and then have everybody elevate that place.
Speaker 1: I could have told you that. I could have told
Speaker 1: you that because he didn't even play this guy damn bad.
Speaker 1: There wasn't no goddamn two and six. But also so
Speaker 1: that was there. The defense was all world. Defense was
Speaker 1: all run boy. Hey, they were playing some goddamn ball.
Speaker 2: If you go back and study history of defense, which
Speaker 2: I have, Yeah, only one defense in the history has
Speaker 2: gotten better statistically.
Speaker 3: When they were all world.
Speaker 2: The previous year, the eighty five Bears as great as
Speaker 2: they were, if you go back and look at statistically,
Speaker 2: the eighty six Bears was the greatest defensive symbol and
Speaker 2: the funniest thing, but they got beat. They were fourteen
Speaker 2: to two and they got beat.
Speaker 1: The funny thing about it, So eighty five bit is
Speaker 1: the credit for being the best.
Speaker 3: Defense because they won the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: You look at the two thousand Ravens they won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. You look at the old two Bucks, they
Speaker 2: won the super Bowl. You look at the thirteen, the
Speaker 2: thirteen Legion of Boom, they won the super Bowl. You
Speaker 2: look at those historic defenses in Pittsburgh, they won the
Speaker 2: super Bowl. Seventy six might have been the better might
Speaker 2: have been the better defense of the defense, theve symbol.
Speaker 2: Now you talk about a team that won four seas
Speaker 2: bull than six years and you look at the I
Speaker 2: think they won seventy four to seventy five and it
Speaker 2: won what seventy eight, seventy nine something like. I think
Speaker 2: that's my memory sort to be correct. That's what happened.
Speaker 2: But if that defense have any slippage and your quarterback
Speaker 2: has slippage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's over. Yeah, it's a rap.
Speaker 3: It's over.
Speaker 2: And because they don't generate enough early enough and so
Speaker 2: the defense is constantly on the field and now you
Speaker 2: wear them down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough what they have.
Speaker 2: I mean they ran Okyoho twenty eight for a buck twelve.
Speaker 2: That's like four yards of carry. That's exactly four yards
Speaker 2: of exactly for you could live with. You could live
Speaker 2: with that. Rogers was seventeen of twenty eight, two thirty.
Speaker 3: Three, two thirty three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Derek Drake May three or six, twenty three,
Speaker 2: he ran for a touchdown, got kicked in the back
Speaker 2: of his head. I don't know how that wasn't because
Speaker 2: the guys that will slide and the guy hit him
Speaker 2: in the back of the head. But that's not the
Speaker 2: heir nor there. But the Jets got some issues and
Speaker 2: you're seeing that. It wasn't coaching.
Speaker 1: It wasn't we talk about they have issues. These issues
Speaker 1: have been arising since what Broadway Jones. It's been the
Speaker 1: same issues. Yeah, been the same issues. And in the
Speaker 1: time when they were successful, it was because of their defense.
Speaker 1: It's because of their defense. Their defense has always carried
Speaker 1: the Jets.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what happened.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you go back and look, and everybody's like, well,
Speaker 2: if you look at the Broncos they won the Super Bowl, Yes,
Speaker 2: but do y'all remember what the Broncos offense was before
Speaker 2: that defense became that. Do y'all remember Peyton Manning? They
Speaker 2: won thirteenth straight, They won like eleven straight games. His
Speaker 2: first year there, he finished run up for the MVP.
Speaker 2: The next year he was the MVP. Fifty five touchdowns,
Speaker 2: fifty four hundred plus yards, broke the record and touchdown
Speaker 2: and passing yards. The next year he threw for another
Speaker 2: thirty nine touchdowns, twelve interceptions, and almost forty five forty
Speaker 2: six hundred yards. Okay, go back and look at Tom Brady.
Speaker 2: Did you see the numbers that he put up. But
Speaker 2: what happens when his defense couldn't stand on the head
Speaker 2: like they did in the playoffs and down the stretch
Speaker 2: this first year, Then what happened?
Speaker 3: Come on, chat, I know, y'all watch it.
Speaker 2: What happened when that defense couldn't stand on its head
Speaker 2: and they couldn't turn you over?
Speaker 3: And then he started to turn the ball over. That
Speaker 3: was the same defense.
Speaker 2: That was a Leavonte, David, Devin White, Viata Veil JPP.
Speaker 2: They had outstanding Yeah, but as you get older, it
Speaker 2: gets harder and harder for you to summons it up
Speaker 2: game in and game out, throw in and throw out.
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you something. You're talking about a guy
Speaker 2: that got old in the league. I mean, I thought
Speaker 2: you want to hear from a guy. I thought, y'all said,
Speaker 2: y'all lack guys that played the game, played the game
Speaker 2: at a high level. One thing, I'm telling you what
Speaker 2: it's like to get old. I couldn't summon it up
Speaker 2: game in and game out, just like you if you're
Speaker 2: in a relationship, as you starting to get older, you
Speaker 2: can't put them rounds together round Hey, oh Joe, Hey
Speaker 2: when they be talking about eight inches, I give your
Speaker 2: phoe to day in photo ball. That's all I got
Speaker 2: for your shoe. That's all I got out, Like, Hey,
Speaker 2: that's it, that's it.
Speaker 3: So leave me alone. I metched the cove in Gordon Set.
Speaker 1: Hey, no, hey, listen, no more comments about relationships. Yeah
Speaker 1: not right now, you know, but you do so you're right.
Speaker 1: You're right, you're right. My bad, my bad, bad, and
Speaker 1: nothing that's about no sex and none that. I'm in
Speaker 1: the doghouse right now. So yeah, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: hold you in the dog house.
Speaker 2: I had to no house I've been in.
Speaker 3: My house is big.
Speaker 2: You don't be talking about nothing any way.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: That's why I had to get the road sparks, Roark,
Speaker 2: have big help me, summons it up. I can get
Speaker 2: a couple.
Speaker 3: Of rounds in.
Speaker 2: It's too soon, It's too soon. Okay, my bad. You're right,
Speaker 2: oh Joe, I'm sorry soon. You're right, you're right, but
Speaker 2: you need to fix But you need to fix that now.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, Hey, it's gonna it's gonna take the hand
Speaker 1: of God. Better come down here and fix that. Let
Speaker 1: me give you tem the glasses on you see the faith.
Speaker 1: It's gonna take the hand of God.
Speaker 2: Well, you better get on your need. Hey, hold on,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna read you something my sister. My sister sent
Speaker 2: me today. O Joe, I'm gonna share a story which
Speaker 2: I might not share it today. I might have to
Speaker 2: share it with you later day and time. Yes, but uh,
Speaker 2: this is what she sent me this morning before I
Speaker 2: even woke up. I mean, so she's up. It's three
Speaker 2: hours difference in the time, so she probably said that's
Speaker 2: about probably about four thirty five o'clock because she gets
Speaker 2: up every morning she reads about.
Speaker 1: Take time said.
Speaker 2: She said, we don't pray to inform God. We pray
Speaker 2: to involve God. He already knows what's going on in
Speaker 2: our life. He's just waiting for you to ask him
Speaker 2: to help. I'm gonna read that again to you. We
Speaker 2: don't pray to inform God. We pray to involve God.
Speaker 2: He already knows what's going on in your life. He's
Speaker 2: just waiting for you to ask him for help.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 1: And that's right on time too. That's right on time.
Speaker 1: But back to football. I like that, okay, all right.
Speaker 2: The Browns upset the Ravens twenty nine, twenty four. With
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston starting his first game filling in for an
Speaker 2: injury Deshaun Watson, the Browns offense looked completely different. The
Speaker 2: Browns scored twenty nine points, It's the first time they've
Speaker 2: reached twenty points this season, and the offense had a rhythm.
Speaker 2: It had a flow to it that hasn't been present.
Speaker 2: He led a game winning drive in its first start
Speaker 2: since twenty twenty two and the Browns toughest matchup to date.
Speaker 2: They delivered, limiting Lamar Jackson to twenty three or thirty
Speaker 2: eight passing and repeatedly slamming the door on third down.
Speaker 2: O Jo, I have at some point in time, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta stop. We saw Joe Flacco in the same office.
Speaker 2: We see James Winston in the same office at some
Speaker 2: point in time, O Joe. They don't blame the fans
Speaker 2: kitsch on he calling this. This is what we know.
Speaker 2: This is for facts. This offense looks better with Joe
Speaker 2: Flacco and Jameis Winston that it ever has with de
Speaker 2: Shaun Watson Carriod point play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Now I would get ready to ask you listen.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching the game myself, and for the life
Speaker 1: of me, I can't figure out. These are the same plays,
Speaker 1: same receivers, same running back, same defense. When Joe Flecco
Speaker 1: came in, obviously some of the players might yes, but
Speaker 1: today the office looked completely different. James had a three
Speaker 1: hundred yard game three in his first game, three thirty
Speaker 1: four in the first game.
Speaker 2: How to hit it?
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think it's the fancy called in
Speaker 1: different places because there's a different quarterback. Did the playbook change?
Speaker 2: I'm confused at some point in time, Oh Joe, we
Speaker 2: got the call of it is what it is? Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: we've seen the common denominator. The office doesn't look good
Speaker 2: with one. The office looked exponentially better with two. Dud
Speaker 2: the what is the common denominator? They're three quarterbacks that
Speaker 2: play in this offense. One two of them. The offense
Speaker 2: has a rhythm, it flows, They throw for three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: The other it doesn't look good and he doesn't throw
Speaker 2: for three hundred yards.
Speaker 1: That ain't that ain't where do you no?
Speaker 2: Because I see what it is, you'll see it too,
Speaker 2: And it's okay. That doesn't mean I don't listen. I
Speaker 2: like you the Sean as a football player, I really
Speaker 2: don't know the man off the field. And so I
Speaker 2: know everybody talking about the allegations and all this and
Speaker 2: all that, I'm talking about the football player. But just
Speaker 2: that's what I want to focus on. I'm not here,
Speaker 2: first of all, I'm not here to re talk about
Speaker 2: his case, and you're not qualified either. I want to
Speaker 2: talk about football player. DeShawn hasn't looked good since he's
Speaker 2: been in Cleveland. And all I know is when two
Speaker 2: guys come in that offense, that same offense, that offense
Speaker 2: looks exponentially better, completely different.
Speaker 1: Now you know it's gonna fun. Now the Brown's gonna
Speaker 1: mess around and going to god damn run. The Brown's
Speaker 1: gonna mess around and going to goddamn run. You come
Speaker 1: out and play like that. You know what that does
Speaker 1: for the team. You know what that does for the
Speaker 1: players in that locker room?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Man, did you hear Jameis Winston quote after the we
Speaker 1: quote the eminem?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Man, dog, he is the most He's the most, the most.
Speaker 2: About He played for the play for the name on
Speaker 2: the helmet. They ain't got no deca on the helmet.
Speaker 1: Hey, he's unintentionally funny. I don't know he'd be dead
Speaker 1: serious though.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh to the Ravens, I didn't like the way that
Speaker 2: I didn't like this hold on. You only had twenty
Speaker 2: one rush of TIMPs. You only gave the ball to
Speaker 2: day Henry eleven times. Yeah, you gave the ball there
Speaker 2: Henry eleven So they had twenty one Russia till and
Speaker 2: you let Lamar Jackson throw the ball thirty eight times.
Speaker 2: Oh so you don't think that's upside down? Think about
Speaker 2: what you just said.
Speaker 3: They gave it.
Speaker 1: They gave Derrick Herry to bime eleven twelve times. How
Speaker 1: many yards did he.
Speaker 2: Have seventy three? He's averaging six point six yards of carriage?
Speaker 2: Could I interest you in that? Remember the game against
Speaker 2: Cincinnati when he had level, when he had when he
Speaker 2: had level carries, and then they gave him the ball
Speaker 2: and twice in over time and he took him to
Speaker 2: performance where.
Speaker 1: He got it, got it out of there. Yeah, they went,
Speaker 1: they went away from it. They went, they went away
Speaker 1: from the game plan. They went away from what has
Speaker 1: been working. Why they did that? I have no idea.
Speaker 1: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't get you. You have the recipe.
Speaker 2: If you notice, KFC don't change their recipe. Popey's don't
Speaker 2: change their recipe. Why because it works?
Speaker 1: Wirks. Yeah, you know you should. You should have said
Speaker 1: Church of Chicken. But I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Well I had I hadn't had either a long time,
Speaker 2: so I can just because when you think about it, KFC,
Speaker 2: the original recipe, it's under lock and key. Okay, Popeye's
Speaker 2: the Cajun whatever, whatever they use it. But I'm saying
Speaker 2: they've maintained that the Ravens. You have the recipe on
Speaker 2: that five game winning streak that you went on. What
Speaker 2: did you do? You ran the ball? I said, I
Speaker 2: have to see, Oh Jo, It's sometimes it gets really
Speaker 2: hard for you to have an honest conversation about the
Speaker 2: Ravens because people think you're trying to Like I said, Look,
Speaker 2: I think the Ravens are playing phenomenal, but I have
Speaker 2: concerned about their defense because I don't think the back
Speaker 2: end is very good.
Speaker 3: Oh he just.
Speaker 2: Trying to sneak this Lamar. That's just another way to
Speaker 2: go around about saying Lamar can't get it done.
Speaker 1: You like you do like Humphrey and Wiggins And did
Speaker 1: I say it right?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Wiggins?
Speaker 2: Go back and look at it. Past the ash the Ravens,
Speaker 2: past defense rank he said, KFC was good. I'm saying
Speaker 2: they haven't changed the recipe. See y'all lose, See y'all
Speaker 2: get so crapped, and y'all missed the message. I can tell.
Speaker 2: I can tell y'all didn't do well in school. Y'all
Speaker 2: was in the same class. K through twelve and did
Speaker 2: never change her home room. I can tell, I can
Speaker 2: tell the Ravens are dead last in past defense. The
Speaker 2: Ravens are dead last in past defense. But when I
Speaker 2: said it, oh, that's just the way of you trying
Speaker 2: to sneak this, Lamar said he can't get it done.
Speaker 3: No. Oh, I just want to know one thing.
Speaker 2: When I said they weren't very good in the back end,
Speaker 2: and now they're dead lasting past defense, y'all think I'll
Speaker 2: watch the Ravens game.
Speaker 3: It is not a trick question. It's a yes. No.
Speaker 3: It's not rhetorical either.
Speaker 1: Damn.
Speaker 2: I get it, oh, Joe, I get it. A lot
Speaker 2: of times, if you don't like the message, you won't
Speaker 2: receive the message.
Speaker 1: You like the messager, the messenger, the messenger, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Bro, I just go give it to you straight. I
Speaker 2: don't got no bum, I don't have any if anything.
Speaker 2: You would think like, man, just when I told the truth,
Speaker 2: the one thing I honest to say about the Broncos.
Speaker 2: When I told the truth about the Broncos and what
Speaker 2: was going on, that was it.
Speaker 3: But I get it. I get it.
Speaker 2: I get it, bro. My job is to like watch
Speaker 2: the games and give you an honest assessment from a
Speaker 2: guy that played the game, that studied the game.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 2: I'm not yes, yes, the touchdowns, Hey, I like touchdowns.
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk about the Commanders that last play and
Speaker 2: the guy bull drive it. You see, Ojo, you see
Speaker 2: where they got it. Now he gotta apologize. There ain't
Speaker 2: enough apologies. But back to the Ravens, o Jo. Dereck
Speaker 2: Henry is averaging one hundred and twenty nine yards a game.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at the last three too game.
Speaker 2: He probably amateur one seventy five and you give him
Speaker 2: eleven Carris.
Speaker 1: But you know that's that's that's on that's on Todd Munkin.
Speaker 1: That's that's on him. That's that's that's on the play calling.
Speaker 1: Something made them divert away from the wrong game. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. I don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: but I know one thing that god damn Brown look good.
Speaker 1: Goddamn Jameis Winston and the senator today. I know that.
Speaker 2: Yet, O Joe, we had this conversation Joe Flacco look
Speaker 2: good under center.
Speaker 1: They went on the run that.
Speaker 3: You asked me the question, oh man, what's going on? Why?
Speaker 2: Why DeShawn can't do what Joe Flacco doing. Now you
Speaker 2: asking me, why can't DeShawn do what Jameis Winston do with.
Speaker 1: When I a't envisioned DeShawn, I'm thinking that Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: that was in Houston, DeShawn Watson that didn't have any
Speaker 1: of the weapons that he has now at his disposal.
Speaker 1: But still it was a topic.
Speaker 2: He had a year. I think he had two years.
Speaker 2: He had a one year or two years with with Hop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Hop was going already. He had a hell of
Speaker 1: a season with Hop. Wasn't even there.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: I think I think Hop. He played a year with Hop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying he even had a better season once
Speaker 1: Hop left.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Because even that, I'm like, for damn. So I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that's the Deshaun we're gonna get, and it just it
Speaker 1: just hasn't been that since he got since you got
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. I think it's and I think it's up here.
Speaker 1: You heard me, Uh huh's up here? Well who sean, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's up here. It's gone. It's shot shot that that
Speaker 1: confidence is shot.
Speaker 3: Well, how you play quarterback position?
Speaker 1: Listen? So many things, so many things going on off
Speaker 1: the field, so many things going on the field, or.
Speaker 2: It can wear you, it can it can weigh you down.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have a every burden. Yeah, of ish
Speaker 2: that's on his mind and a lot of times. But
Speaker 2: here's the thing, oh Joe, is that what really great
Speaker 2: athletes can do is compartmentalized.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm on the field. The most important thing
Speaker 3: is this game.
Speaker 2: I'll deal with wife, girlfriend, significant other, I'll deal with crisis, family,
Speaker 2: whatever the case may be. I'll deal with that at
Speaker 2: the appropriate time. But what I must do right now
Speaker 2: it's focused.
Speaker 3: Lock it in.
Speaker 2: Yah. Yeah, that's what you have to do all the great,
Speaker 2: all the really great, and compartmentalize.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do as easy as you as you
Speaker 1: sit there and saying everybody can't do that. Sometimes going
Speaker 1: on off the field, it creeps into your work. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you bring it to work, and I think that's that's
Speaker 1: that's been the issue.
Speaker 3: I just I just.
Speaker 2: I just wish it's gonna be studied, because it's gonna
Speaker 2: be a thirty for thirty. Somebody's gonna do a documentary
Speaker 2: on this one. Okay, because we've never We've never. We've
Speaker 2: never seen We've never seen an athlete so high and
Speaker 2: have some precipitous drop. We've never, right, we've never especially that.
Speaker 2: Look he's had the okay, he towards the AI. I
Speaker 2: think he towards a kilee. But this drop started before injury,
Speaker 2: so we can't contribute it to an injury.
Speaker 3: It's I just hate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they look good now.
Speaker 2: Gonna be very interesting to see if they can keep
Speaker 2: it going. But oh Joe, the formula is the run.
Speaker 2: More than you pass, you've got hit, you've got king Henry.
Speaker 2: Look at the games. How they've been winning. They've been
Speaker 2: blowing teams out. Yeah, the man who's been running, Wow,
Speaker 2: and you give him eleven carries? Eleven?
Speaker 1: I don't know what, oh.
Speaker 2: Joe, they had twenty one carries as a team when
Speaker 2: normally the Ravens are thirty thirty five forty carry teams.
Speaker 3: What did they have? Go back and look at the Ravens.
Speaker 3: What did they have against Tampa?
Speaker 2: What they have? Many carries they have against Dallas? I
Speaker 2: get it if you when you fall behind. I think
Speaker 2: they fell behind two scores Cincinnati. But they fell behind
Speaker 2: because you know they throwing the ball daily down in
Speaker 2: a round. Who the Ravens got naxted? They have thirty
Speaker 2: carries against Tampa, how many have against Dallas? They had
Speaker 2: had to have thirty five forty against Dallas because they
Speaker 2: random off for Damnar two and seventy five yards. But
Speaker 2: that recipe. Look, I understand. Look, Lamar is an MVP. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we know he could throw the ball. But I think,
Speaker 2: if what are you trying to do. You're trying to
Speaker 2: prove a point in Lamar can throw the ball, or
Speaker 2: you're trying to win a championship because they are not
Speaker 2: mutually exclusive out Joe, Yeah, they're not. Against Dallas. They
Speaker 2: had forty five carries against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Well you know why. You know why it was forty
Speaker 1: five carries because they can't they can't stop the goddamn run.
Speaker 1: Helly couldn't stop a goddamn noseble.
Speaker 3: O, Joe.
Speaker 2: You're averaging six yards of carry on twenty one carries.
Speaker 2: What the run game also does if you know you
Speaker 2: have a weak defense, running the football helps you keep
Speaker 2: their ass up the field. The weakest part of the
Speaker 2: Ravens is what ohoe their defense? What keeps them off
Speaker 2: the field. Ochoe running the football. It's not Look, I'm
Speaker 2: not protagonist, I'm not Einstein, but I know if I
Speaker 2: got a weak area, I'm gonna stay away from back.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play till my strong super because if I
Speaker 2: throw the ball, if I get off the field too
Speaker 2: many times, I'm gonna put the defense back on the field.
Speaker 3: They're tired.
Speaker 2: First of all, they're not the greatest defense even when
Speaker 2: they're fresh. What happens when a defense that's not very
Speaker 2: good gets fatigued.
Speaker 1: Ochoe make mistakes, baby, you get beaten.
Speaker 2: No way should Cleveland run the ball more than the Ravens.
Speaker 1: If anything, should should be about the same.
Speaker 2: Well, if Nick Chubb coming off that serious injury, had
Speaker 2: five more careious than Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a lot the volume
Speaker 2: M hm