Speaker 1: Look man, oh, I see you. Why and look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong lost culture
Speaker 1: Resta's calling. Listen. In today's world where there's so many
Speaker 1: stories that have sad endings and sad when you say
Speaker 1: there's a lot of sad news, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: sad news. And then you get to the end of
Speaker 1: the article or the news story or the clip and
Speaker 1: you go, that's a sad ending. Oh my god. It's like,
Speaker 1: even if a story begins sad, it also happens sad.
Speaker 1: But and this is sort of what brings me to
Speaker 1: this point, like we have a narrative on this podcast
Speaker 1: which has now gotten a happy ending, and I would
Speaker 1: like to tell everyone what it is. I'm currently drinking
Speaker 1: an Allusion an Allusion night Owl pumpkin ale with a
Speaker 1: cinnamon sugar rim because the readers and Allusion Brewery, y'all
Speaker 1: really came through it for me after I said I
Speaker 1: was not in my autumnal vibe, and I had readers
Speaker 1: in my DM sending me suggestions, sending me the beers
Speaker 1: shout out to my sister Chelsea Rodgers is one of them.
Speaker 1: But when I tell you I have enough pumpkin ale
Speaker 1: for this year and next. I tell no lies. So
Speaker 1: that was just I wanted to make anyone feel good. Reader.
Speaker 1: I faced timed with my sister the other week. She
Speaker 1: opened up her fridge to show me the fully packed
Speaker 1: sardines level, the flavor of the pumpkin beers, the variety.
Speaker 1: Even y'all really came through, and I really think it's
Speaker 1: I could cry. Actually, no joke. Well that's because you
Speaker 1: are in touch with me on a sister level, and
Speaker 1: you knew that how much it meant to me to
Speaker 1: get that pumpkin taste. And now that you've seen me inundated,
Speaker 1: my pores are sweating. Pumpkin. You feel happy? You do,
Speaker 1: I do. I haven't seen you this happy in in
Speaker 1: a minute. I'm beaming, You're beaming, and it's it's sometimes
Speaker 1: all it takes. I'm not saying it's fully credited to
Speaker 1: the pumpkin beer, but you really need to get into
Speaker 1: the tumnal fish. You know. I'm a very tactile person,
Speaker 1: you know. I sort of like live on the edge
Speaker 1: of my tips of my fingers, you know, And I'm
Speaker 1: doing spooky sort of. I have a gues spook right
Speaker 1: now in the zoom. Um. But I love to get
Speaker 1: my things, you know, my little little creature comforts if
Speaker 1: you will. Um. But anyway, I just wanted to sort
Speaker 1: of let everyone in on that. God, it's really I
Speaker 1: really do miss you and Autumn. I really feel like.
Speaker 1: I was just talking to someone today and I was like,
Speaker 1: what do you what do you do? What do you
Speaker 1: have coming up the next couple of weeks? And he said,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going upstate to watch the leaf change.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring some hallucinogenics with me. And I thought,
Speaker 1: and I brought it. Brought me back to that time
Speaker 1: you meet Sudy and Mofi Passic went and and Dave
Speaker 1: Zoni and I guess, of course davem Zoni. And then
Speaker 1: I recommended to him, I said, bring a fun puzzle,
Speaker 1: a fun jigsaw, because that's what we had. And like
Speaker 1: we did our thing outside for a little bit, enjoyed nature,
Speaker 1: and then we went back inside to cook meals, to
Speaker 1: cook a meal, and you know, music was on, and
Speaker 1: then we were all putting together this beautiful Do remember
Speaker 1: this puzzle? I remember this puzzle. Remember It's actually one
Speaker 1: of I think two puzzles I've ever done in my life,
Speaker 1: which is why I remember. But what was on it?
Speaker 1: The most beautiful like painting, impressionistic painting of a girl
Speaker 1: with a with like a red backpack. I forget what
Speaker 1: the paintings. It must be a famous painting. It looks
Speaker 1: so beautiful. It looks museum level like it would be,
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere hanging up somewhere where you have to
Speaker 1: get in pay admission, toget in. Yes, not even pay
Speaker 1: admission if it's at the med. Remember it's a it's
Speaker 1: a suggested sort of admission building where it's free to
Speaker 1: Fridays to come in at a suggested admission. Yes, anyway,
Speaker 1: I just I miss you here on this coast where
Speaker 1: there are seasons, you know, for better re worse. But
Speaker 1: someday soon we'll have we'll have our moment. Well. Luckily
Speaker 1: the good news as I am returning come December, so
Speaker 1: by the time this episode drops, it will be it
Speaker 1: will be public news. Do you do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about it? It's I am doing. Have you heard
Speaker 1: of Christmas again? My really show? I am with it
Speaker 1: all around the goddamn you know, America? Where are you going?
Speaker 1: Can you tell us? Going to San Francisco? Going to Chicago,
Speaker 1: doing two days to Chicago, two days in l a. Um,
Speaker 1: we're going to d C. We're doing two shows that
Speaker 1: Joe's Pub in New York and we're doing the Bellhouse.
Speaker 1: And did I forget anything? I don't think so. Live
Speaker 1: comedy is bad and it returns only when I stepped
Speaker 1: foot on that stage. I said, And you know, it's
Speaker 1: actually interesting that we bring this up because our guests
Speaker 1: is going to be opening for me at select dates
Speaker 1: and cities besides New York and l a She traveling
Speaker 1: with you, it's some far flung watch this space. But
Speaker 1: because there's rumblings about her sort of maybe attending one
Speaker 1: city that she knows quite well, and maybe this is
Speaker 1: sort of in me bringing it up, it's sort of
Speaker 1: me nudging her, but this is not Let me just
Speaker 1: say something about the guests. It's so interesting that you
Speaker 1: brought up that trip that we took up state, because
Speaker 1: that actually what that had in common with other holiday
Speaker 1: events is it was just family. And the guest today
Speaker 1: is just family. True Kin, true, Kim, Do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I'll do a third like literally literally
Speaker 1: we say it, we say it sometimes we throw this around,
Speaker 1: but literally, sister life hashtag after hashtag after let's talk
Speaker 1: about this guest. I mean, so many credits you've known
Speaker 1: her for from from wonderful podcast projects that she's had
Speaker 1: in the past. She has another one coming up somewhat soon,
Speaker 1: I would say, in the next few months. Watch this
Speaker 1: space watch with Space. I mean, let's just say this
Speaker 1: on the US culture Restless brand, as far as we
Speaker 1: can say, there's one podcast that's coming. It's called Stepmother
Speaker 1: the Husband Hunt, okay, and basically what's going to go
Speaker 1: on there is you're going to get a firsthand account
Speaker 1: on how to like ensnare an older husband so that
Speaker 1: you can say with with a heavy amount of dollars
Speaker 1: so you can sit on your damn ass and simply,
Speaker 1: you know, soak up life. And that is part of
Speaker 1: the feed. It's the opposite of squid game. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's a common unwealth of course, and and you know,
Speaker 1: disparities between classes, but there's no killing. There's no death.
Speaker 1: There might be some injury violence, but it's overall, it's
Speaker 1: it's it has a happy ending if you follow it correctly,
Speaker 1: it'll happy, happy ending. And then of course there is
Speaker 1: another pod headgum is presenting Senior Superlatives UM, which is
Speaker 1: really going to be the event of a much sooner season.
Speaker 1: You have to understand Stepmother is coming in two, and
Speaker 1: isn't it great have something coming in two? That's really
Speaker 1: the mark of success. This is the time of year
Speaker 1: where you really want to have something coming up in
Speaker 1: two and the next year it's always October where you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's nuts. Next year, baby. But Senior Superlatives is hitting
Speaker 1: it right now. It's actually out right now as of
Speaker 1: time of release, so you may listen to that pod
Speaker 1: absolutely as soon as possible. UM. And also you know
Speaker 1: where you love her from Loss Bookies. She is the
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Speaker 1: going to actually catch her. And next season of Starch
Speaker 1: Party invented Pink invented Pink. Oh yes, and in the
Speaker 1: next season of Search Party playing a very interesting role.
Speaker 1: We can't say much yet. HBO to the Max, essentially
Speaker 1: the culture number eleven HBO to Max, Ladies, gentlemen and
Speaker 1: my mbs. Everyone, please welcome into your ears. Greta Heitman,
Speaker 1: Oh god, what's the vibe? Is actually very cozy for me?
Speaker 1: The vibe here is very cozy. I am in my
Speaker 1: husband's father's home. Yeah it is cozy, you know, but
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't love the lighting and overhead,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I'm pale, I'm pale and scary.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. And my computer is old and
Speaker 1: it's very Gaussian blur for all of my for your photoshop,
Speaker 1: from my photoshop freaks, from my Adobe sweet heads out there. Okay,
Speaker 1: but it's not in the cute way like Gauziana is.
Speaker 1: But now you know we see on all the filters
Speaker 1: it's the no poor but out of styles. Gaussian is
Speaker 1: like the blur on a grid where the it's a
Speaker 1: radial blur, but it's broken out into squares. Gaussian blur,
Speaker 1: Like there's there's very little use case for Gaussian, Like
Speaker 1: when would like, I can't think of a situation where
Speaker 1: you would want to use Gaussian. Well, you need to
Speaker 1: be like masking. I mean, you know you are. You
Speaker 1: are an Adobe king, weren't you? I was first? Like,
Speaker 1: I really haven't. I only ever opened Adobe. I only
Speaker 1: ever all I'm paying Creative Cloud, my Creative Cloud subscription
Speaker 1: for it is to make the graphics for Lost College
Speaker 1: week would you use in design? I don't use in design.
Speaker 1: I just in design. I get freaked, and I only
Speaker 1: do it if I ever if I ever needed to
Speaker 1: do like a print thing, and I don't need to
Speaker 1: do that for photos, I just use Photoshop because I'm
Speaker 1: just making a raster. I'm not making any vector's baby, No,
Speaker 1: that vector mat No. This is one of the horniest
Speaker 1: conversations I've ever watched. You just said vector and raster.
Speaker 1: Still shot up my spine. What is this? So the
Speaker 1: differences between rasters and vector's raster vectors in Oh my god,
Speaker 1: if top top energy or one more time, I'm a
Speaker 1: COMA vector is something he comed of. Exture is something
Speaker 1: that you can scale up or down without losing any
Speaker 1: of the resolution. So it's like it's a clean sort
Speaker 1: of scale up scale down, you don't lose it doesn't
Speaker 1: get blurry. You know, sometimes if you try to like
Speaker 1: post something on Instagram that you're zooming in or are
Speaker 1: you zooming in on a photo too much gets a
Speaker 1: little blurry. That's a raster. So much goes into Instagram
Speaker 1: that we don't even think about. We just think it's
Speaker 1: like social trauma and like thirst traps. But actually it's
Speaker 1: vectors and rasters, and most people are postings. Most people
Speaker 1: are posting rasters. You're not in vector images. The file
Speaker 1: size is so big that they're not like saving in
Speaker 1: vector image to your phone unless you got that new
Speaker 1: I phone. Thirteam for all. Come on, Greta, I didn't
Speaker 1: know you were so I don't know you knew all
Speaker 1: of the ins and out. You guys are jamming out.
Speaker 1: But this is actually no surprise because Matt, when you say,
Speaker 1: Greta is onever most visually just like with it friends,
Speaker 1: like she's the She's the person who I'm positive out
Speaker 1: of all our contemporaries, we'll have a lifestyle brand. She
Speaker 1: is the closest one to a realized like aesthetic that
Speaker 1: I can only call And I don't mean this in
Speaker 1: any way qualitatively. I just mean it's Goop in that
Speaker 1: it is a brand. It's Goop. But it is like
Speaker 1: so many people are trying to do like the funny
Speaker 1: take on Goop and they do success don't walk the walk.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not and I don't. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I immediately take that back because our friends on BMP
Speaker 1: Poog caper Lane, Jack Lenovac, I mean that is like full.
Speaker 1: That is like a like I lived in, like a
Speaker 1: conversation like those are lived in discussions about wellness and
Speaker 1: we love I'm talking about the aesthetic though of people
Speaker 1: trying to like skiwer wellness or whatever, which is great.
Speaker 1: It's a wonderful noble pursuit. I really do think that.
Speaker 1: But Greta is someone who this is the thing about
Speaker 1: Greta is that she like is able to like take
Speaker 1: all of these images and these references and like actually
Speaker 1: like make fun of them, but also like not sell
Speaker 1: them out completely, like honor them in some way. Gret
Speaker 1: That is rat you, thank you, past I will say this.
Speaker 1: I was like we were giving the opportunity to do
Speaker 1: the Feed, which people, if they don't know what that is,
Speaker 1: we are producing ten like character driven podcast four episodes
Speaker 1: each of each series, and Greta Um was one of
Speaker 1: the first people that we thought of because she has
Speaker 1: so many inventive characters and like if you follow on Instagram,
Speaker 1: you know, but the character of step Mother. I thought
Speaker 1: it would be so fun to see a podcast hosted
Speaker 1: by that character. And Greta has come up with The
Speaker 1: Husband Hunt, which is a four episode series which is
Speaker 1: actually going to kick off the feed and we can't.
Speaker 1: It's the perfect kickoff, and it's so I mean, every
Speaker 1: detail is so thought out and so funny, and I
Speaker 1: mean the full pitch, the outline was like already like there,
Speaker 1: we were just like great, let's let's do it at home. Hope,
Speaker 1: I hope everyone. I mean I love to me like,
Speaker 1: I love details like that's is That's the best of
Speaker 1: life to me is little little, itty bitty details. So
Speaker 1: I think some people will really get on board with
Speaker 1: my details and other people have no idea what the
Speaker 1: funk I'm talking about. No, I don't think that's how
Speaker 1: it works. I think that's what you're You're completely right,
Speaker 1: you are. See I'm so jealous because not to make
Speaker 1: this about me, I don't think I'm that detail oriented
Speaker 1: when it comes to like my like my output, Like
Speaker 1: I try to think big picture. I'm like whatever Matt
Speaker 1: and I worked together, he's the details person. I'm like
Speaker 1: structure macro Greta is someone who gets both and she
Speaker 1: the fact that you love the detail is stunning to me. Well,
Speaker 1: I just like, first of all, I disagree with you,
Speaker 1: Bow and I think you're oriented. I mean that in
Speaker 1: terms of writing in terms of like an idea. So
Speaker 1: you're you're like coming in being like the story is
Speaker 1: about a baseball team, and that is like and they're
Speaker 1: all wearing strikes and they're all like you, and that's
Speaker 1: that's that's already too detailed by decision making, right, But
Speaker 1: I think that, like, it's so interesting because outwardly, outwardly
Speaker 1: in your functioning lives, just the way you present no offense. Matthew,
Speaker 1: my dear sweet already untaken, was stopping my neck, stop
Speaker 1: on my queen. But one would say, one would saying
Speaker 1: you are very detailed, oated. You have a you have
Speaker 1: a specific aesthetic. You have things that you like. You
Speaker 1: have you everything from your clothes to like fragrance to
Speaker 1: your just your whole way of being your the tactile
Speaker 1: artifacts of your life is way more specific and honed
Speaker 1: in than Matt's. Where Matt is like, and I again
Speaker 1: like this is not to be a shady bitch, but
Speaker 1: Matt is like, Oh, this product that I think will
Speaker 1: be good for my eyes, I'm gonna roll it on
Speaker 1: the I'm gonna layer it on with in war products,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's gonna work. This is
Speaker 1: me maximalism and also like you know, um, if I
Speaker 1: were to say to Matt like, uh oh, I love this,
Speaker 1: like this sounds so highbrow, count of me. I love
Speaker 1: this body like like handcrafted top, Matt would be like what,
Speaker 1: But I just mean and it's not about that even,
Speaker 1: It's just it's interesting that you say that. In the
Speaker 1: creative practice, your very big picture, and Matt is very specific.
Speaker 1: And I think in the day to day life practice,
Speaker 1: Matt is someone who you know, I basically live with Matt,
Speaker 1: and he's very um, easy comes, easy goes, And I
Speaker 1: think you are the you are Like if if Matt
Speaker 1: and I sort of made up for each other's deficiencies,
Speaker 1: then you would be the end results. We know that
Speaker 1: you basically grew Gret. What we're saying is you are
Speaker 1: an ideal. You are literally I mean, you know how
Speaker 1: much I love you. But but it's like I actually,
Speaker 1: so here's the actual ty. So sometimes I always say
Speaker 1: and this is real, and he thinks it's a joke,
Speaker 1: but it's actually real. Whenever Bowen is traveling somewhere or
Speaker 1: going to show up somewhere, I actually intrinsically know when
Speaker 1: when it's not a joke. Well, I think sometimes we
Speaker 1: say the thing of like I knew Bowen was flying in,
Speaker 1: so I actually I put my head to this guy
Speaker 1: and he is here very luke leia um if you
Speaker 1: will for my Star Wars absolutely, very exactly my fans.
Speaker 1: But anyway, what I'm saying is I actually had that
Speaker 1: moment with Greta last week. I was like, I was
Speaker 1: literally saying in my bed and like a warm warmth
Speaker 1: thing came over me and I heard a John Williams
Speaker 1: score and I was like and I literally went over
Speaker 1: to my phone and I was like, do you do you?
Speaker 1: I'm I think I should come over and she was
Speaker 1: like yes, And then we ended up spending the whole
Speaker 1: day together because we intrinsically know when it's time to
Speaker 1: join up. Because my girl was going through a hard
Speaker 1: day and I said I'm coming over and then we
Speaker 1: had a great day. God. But it was very surreal
Speaker 1: because Matt texted me. It was like I literally in
Speaker 1: the text he was like, hey, I feel like you
Speaker 1: need and I was like, and I wrote back, I
Speaker 1: was like, did you know I was crying on my
Speaker 1: front lawn. I thought that like he had talked to
Speaker 1: Abe or I thought that he had talked to like Karen.
Speaker 1: I thought that he had talked to someone that knew
Speaker 1: the first hand what I was going through, and he
Speaker 1: was like, no, I just really felt like intuitive feelings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the triple water placement jumping in. Really,
Speaker 1: he knows emotions. This is someone who knows who can
Speaker 1: break down emotions and interpret them correctly assemble them back together.
Speaker 1: I have never met a more emotionally mature person. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that is to you know, that's not general. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: I think I'm emotionally aware. You have a read on people,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, Matt. You can read people. I
Speaker 1: think emotional awareness is probably what you're what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and I I take that as a compliment thing. I
Speaker 1: also think that you're not one to shy away from
Speaker 1: having an emotional conversation. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: can have the tendency to cower when it comes to
Speaker 1: needing to be vulnerable or up front about their feelings
Speaker 1: because they're scared to be you know, open or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. And you're not like that. Well, I think
Speaker 1: that Thank you for saying that, But I think really
Speaker 1: what it is is I think that I would say
Speaker 1: the same thing about you guys. And I think, really,
Speaker 1: ultimately what it is is as you get a little
Speaker 1: bit older, Like it's funny, like in my twenties, I
Speaker 1: would have I had what I would have considered to
Speaker 1: be me be fifteen to twenty really good friends, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now I think I have between
Speaker 1: like five and seven like and like. But but I
Speaker 1: guess what that is is It's like I'm more much
Speaker 1: more available to the people that I'm very close to
Speaker 1: now and I think I'm way less available to people
Speaker 1: that I used to consider good friends. But I feel
Speaker 1: like as you get a little bit older, the circle
Speaker 1: gets smaller, not necessarily in a negative way, but in
Speaker 1: like a very positive way. Like I still love everyone
Speaker 1: that I've been friends with, and I would consider that
Speaker 1: we've been close. But it's it's interesting how when you
Speaker 1: get older, like your friendships just deep and obviously, see
Speaker 1: I can't even track that progress for myself. This is
Speaker 1: what this is the difference between me and Matt is
Speaker 1: that Mac can like think about his own personal relational
Speaker 1: history and be like, oh, this is what's changed, and me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it's all a fucking a blur. Bitch.
Speaker 1: I like, I definitely feel that I have always had
Speaker 1: a lot of friends, and I always felt like I'm
Speaker 1: I love getting close with people, like I love having
Speaker 1: converse like intimate, I love intimate conversation. I feel so
Speaker 1: open for them, which is why I think they happen
Speaker 1: a lot. I love having them. But I think that
Speaker 1: I had a similar thing where I realized, like the
Speaker 1: older I got, I was like, oh, some people that
Speaker 1: I was once like very close with I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: have that same feeling toward. And like the codependent side
Speaker 1: of my brain was like, that's bad. They probably hate you.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, no, that's also just part
Speaker 1: of growing up. That's part of getting older, and it's okay.
Speaker 1: And just because you're not like close with your eleventh
Speaker 1: grade friends in high school and doesn't mean that they
Speaker 1: want you to die in rotten hell. Of course, can
Speaker 1: I admit to something that I kind of feel bad about?
Speaker 1: To admit it? Admit it? Think Matt knows too. This
Speaker 1: is the podcast. This is the new new amentment called
Speaker 1: Admit It Admitted. Okay, here we go. Um. Greta texted
Speaker 1: me last night, look, Bow, you should not feel bad
Speaker 1: about this, but continue. Let me let me just let
Speaker 1: me just put it out there. Yes, yes, I think wow.
Speaker 1: I mean the vibe we were coming in, very honest, emotional,
Speaker 1: like it's family, family episode. Okay, great, essentially the title
Speaker 1: of that family episode it's family episode, It's family episode.
Speaker 1: So so she texted me last night being like, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm coming in. Would you want to get dinner before
Speaker 1: we record the podcast? And I mean, Matt, Matt. I
Speaker 1: talked to Matt last night. You knew were the kind
Speaker 1: of place I was in. I was very tired, exhausted, disappointed, sad,
Speaker 1: just a lot of things in the short term, nothing
Speaker 1: long term sad, but I was just like, god, I
Speaker 1: just I really just need to be in a quiet
Speaker 1: room by myself for it for the next few days.
Speaker 1: And then and then I was like, got Matt, I
Speaker 1: really want to see Gretta, but I don't know. I
Speaker 1: really just like I can't even at home. I couldn't
Speaker 1: even leave the home to see anybody. I was like,
Speaker 1: what I leave for anybody? No, not even you, my sister.
Speaker 1: I know I could be dying dead on the street
Speaker 1: and time it was a show week, and I would said, girl,
Speaker 1: I could die, girl, I could I said, girl, that
Speaker 1: that maybe, but the fact is that it was show week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, he's got cut. My multiple pieces got cut,
Speaker 1: and so therefore you you better bleed out, bitch. I
Speaker 1: hope it goes quick, mama anyway. And then and then
Speaker 1: I thank you, thank you so much for me. And
Speaker 1: then I texted Greta back. I said, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: that you're coming on tomorrow. I just from my own.
Speaker 1: I'm in this weird place. Can we do it some
Speaker 1: other time? How long are you in town? Anyone is
Speaker 1: going to And that's why I felt safe, Yes, literally
Speaker 1: because she she get it. There's a heavy part of
Speaker 1: my heart that is still like I shouldn't have done that. No,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. We are all in a codependent generation.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry something happened to all of us where like
Speaker 1: we all feel that like we all need to be
Speaker 1: there all the time for each other and like this
Speaker 1: like and look like I am there all the time
Speaker 1: for my friends. In my heart, you are I can give.
Speaker 1: I can give what I can give. However, like we
Speaker 1: all need to prioritize ourselves number one, because if you're
Speaker 1: not in like a healthy way with yourself, you can't
Speaker 1: be in a healthy way with your friends period. So
Speaker 1: for me, like you saying and this is, by the way,
Speaker 1: nine hundred years of therapy talking like and alan on
Speaker 1: and just like so many other like things happening in
Speaker 1: my brain because I've been going through a depress ado
Speaker 1: moment in my life. But like, if you can't say
Speaker 1: to your friend, hey, like I love you, I want
Speaker 1: to see you, I really need to take care of
Speaker 1: myself right now, and like it genuinely has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with you. But this is where I'm at. If
Speaker 1: you're if the person you're sending that to then internalizes
Speaker 1: it about being about them, you need to know that
Speaker 1: that's like not about you. It was just a moment
Speaker 1: where I was sorry to cut you off. No, I
Speaker 1: just mean that I think it's very healthy and important
Speaker 1: that all of us like advocate for our needs in
Speaker 1: this life. And you needed to have solo time. You
Speaker 1: need to take care of yourself and that's it, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm on this like care kick right now where
Speaker 1: I'm just in terms of thinking about it, I'm like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: this is something that I maybe have taken for granted
Speaker 1: for a little bit that like people put care into
Speaker 1: like how they talk to me, or I should put
Speaker 1: in care about and how I talk to people. But
Speaker 1: like it really was you want to know where this
Speaker 1: is coming from. I was like, I want to see Greta,
Speaker 1: to hang out with her and have fun with her
Speaker 1: and and and be you know, cute and chatty, but
Speaker 1: also I want to like put in care for her
Speaker 1: because she always puts it in care for me. You know,
Speaker 1: Like that's where it's coming from. That sounds that sounds
Speaker 1: so like soft and whatever, but that's yeah, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I also think like it's it's a weird pressure, and
Speaker 1: I think everyone could relate to this, like a pressure
Speaker 1: to resocialize and on top of being busy now that
Speaker 1: you know the pandemic is like you know, it feels
Speaker 1: like it's at a place where it's manageable to go
Speaker 1: out and be social and be busy. That it's this
Speaker 1: pressure we put on ourselves. I think definitely in our
Speaker 1: generation because we are like a generation still of like
Speaker 1: intense fomo because of what goes on online and knowing
Speaker 1: that we've all had to sit around and do nothing
Speaker 1: for so many years now, um that it feels like
Speaker 1: we put a disappointment on ourselves if we feel like
Speaker 1: we haven't um done something correct like socially or like
Speaker 1: done the right thing by a friend when they've reached
Speaker 1: out because they might need um like you know, social
Speaker 1: interaction or whatever. And it feels like I anyway can
Speaker 1: speak for myself. I've never like had to work to
Speaker 1: cut myself a break so much then like this year. Like,
Speaker 1: but it also feels really good when you start doing that,
Speaker 1: like when you see like someone's texted you instead of
Speaker 1: just like not getting back to them. And because you're
Speaker 1: like getting stressed out about like you know, um, how
Speaker 1: you're gonna answer that question, or you don't really feel
Speaker 1: like socially interacting or you need me time, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, I always a stressed out about that.
Speaker 1: Now it feels so much better to just be honest
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, I'm actually not up for it,
Speaker 1: and that's period, and that's all you have to say.
Speaker 1: And it's it's freeing to somehow sometimes like just say
Speaker 1: the truth and vocalize what it is, which is like
Speaker 1: I actually need to be alone for a little while,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that. I mean this morning, I
Speaker 1: woke up, I'm in New York, and I woke up
Speaker 1: here and I was like, I really need to be alone.
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to have this day. I like,
Speaker 1: had such a lovely day, went to the Met, had
Speaker 1: when I had got coffee, got breakfast, went up to
Speaker 1: the mat, was in the met for hours, love walk
Speaker 1: all the way through Central Park. I bought myself a
Speaker 1: new pair of shoes. I lived my whole life today.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I really just need to be alone,
Speaker 1: and like I need to be in a place where
Speaker 1: I remember who I am, because sometimes when I'm feeling
Speaker 1: over extended with friends, or feeling over extended with work,
Speaker 1: or feeling over extended in all these ways, even with
Speaker 1: like social media, like I am very quick to suddenly
Speaker 1: feel like who am I? Like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: feel well, you know, It's like all of your thoughts.
Speaker 1: It's like are these my thoughts? Are they Matt thoughts?
Speaker 1: Are they Abe thoughts? Are they? Whose thoughts are these?
Speaker 1: And like I look at Instagram and I'm like, what
Speaker 1: the funk am I looking at? Like do I have
Speaker 1: any funny ideas? Like too high? Think of anything? And
Speaker 1: then I'm like and then I just I'm like, God,
Speaker 1: like I need to be alone, and I need to
Speaker 1: be like away from I need to be away from
Speaker 1: culture in that sense, to reimmerse myself in culture in
Speaker 1: the broader sense, to be like oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: to zoom out, and to be like suck. Like this morning,
Speaker 1: I was at breakfast and I was eavesdropping on this couple.
Speaker 1: They were gamers, they were day drinking, they were having
Speaker 1: a wild conversation. The one girl felt bad that Ariana
Speaker 1: Grande really sweetener a month before breaking up with Pete Davidson.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just like fully immersed in this,
Speaker 1: like conversation meant nothing to me, but I was like,
Speaker 1: this is fucking heaven. I'm eating well done bacon, yeah,
Speaker 1: in having myself a goddamn coffee, Yes, I must have.
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm going to enjoy this, then
Speaker 1: give up the train. Listen to my emotional edit James Radio, Okay,
Speaker 1: yes to jazz to me, Wow, I'm gonna enjoy my life.
Speaker 1: Are you guys good eavesdroppers? Excellent? I'm not great. It
Speaker 1: really has to be like very It has to cut
Speaker 1: through a lot for me to like pick up on
Speaker 1: it and be like, what the funk are these people
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah? Yeah, when I want to be, I am,
Speaker 1: but Granda, that doesn't surprise me at all that you're
Speaker 1: a good eavesdrop. Like my childhood, My like all my
Speaker 1: childhood was me just like listening and me like pretend
Speaker 1: to be in conversation with someone fully listening to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like when I tell you the amount of like boyfriends
Speaker 1: and dates that have gone on where it's really know
Speaker 1: nothing about them because every single time I was just
Speaker 1: like in another world. Now, thank God with me. But
Speaker 1: I'll be like I'll be talking to me and I'll
Speaker 1: be like sitting there like this, and I'm like, are
Speaker 1: you hearing me? And I'm like, I was listening to
Speaker 1: the conversation that was happening next to us, Like I'm sorry, honey,
Speaker 1: if you're having a conversation and earshot at me and
Speaker 1: it's about anything good. I mean anything good. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are good. In my mind. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of points of interest. Oh my god, so
Speaker 1: many points of interest. I'm listening. I'm I I envy
Speaker 1: that because it what a fun little skill. It's it's
Speaker 1: fun and it's also hell because like I cannot help myself.
Speaker 1: Like if I hear someone on a phone call talking,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's bad. Like I literally I am
Speaker 1: like a dog. I like hearing like a whistle, Like
Speaker 1: the second I hear someone on like I think being
Speaker 1: like and my husband said to me, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: did he say? Girl? Well, this bit, this bitch, I say,
Speaker 1: she's not a bit, she's the gamer. The gamer was
Speaker 1: talking about how she wants to get her booster shot
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, and then they were like talking
Speaker 1: about weird conspiracy is about like that is worth that's
Speaker 1: worth hearing. I actually I at that point I tune out,
Speaker 1: but keep going. Well, I so badly wanted to tune
Speaker 1: way the fucking I don't wanted to turn them like,
Speaker 1: I'm like I have Lucus and about the booster head
Speaker 1: ain't growing out of my fucking crack, bitch, because isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it the worst where you hear someone say something
Speaker 1: that you know objectively is me the kind of person
Speaker 1: that I used to be? I think, like who couldn't
Speaker 1: help themselves? Now I think I'm a little bit better,
Speaker 1: but I would be like, actually, it's like I'm not horrible,
Speaker 1: like actually that that that person full coward? Now? I
Speaker 1: mean I did did I talk about this already, Like
Speaker 1: I was, I was like doing some event and then
Speaker 1: I had to be in the trailer with like the driver.
Speaker 1: It was just a bus. It was a bus more
Speaker 1: than a trailer. And then he was like and this
Speaker 1: was back in this was July, and he goes to me, okay,
Speaker 1: so are you thinking about getting the shot. I was like,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, I got it back in Marred and then
Speaker 1: he was like, okay, good for you. And I was like,
Speaker 1: what about you? And he was like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about fires and Maderna, but I'm not doing Johnson
Speaker 1: and Johnson because you know, they put cancer in that
Speaker 1: one was like and I didn't have it in. It
Speaker 1: was just so shocking that I was like, oh I
Speaker 1: I I said something to the effective. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's true. But I didn't want to like confront you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: But by the way, when you're in those situations, it
Speaker 1: is really hard to get It's hard the person was
Speaker 1: also driving a car and driving your bus slash trailer
Speaker 1: brailer and when you are like fully just locked in
Speaker 1: a conversation with that person's hole, so fu hard. That's
Speaker 1: very hard because what else are you gonna do? We
Speaker 1: don't hate them, you know, you don't want them to
Speaker 1: feel dumb or bad. You want to genuinely have a
Speaker 1: productive conversation with us. I feel like this is this
Speaker 1: is the same way I feel about like calling out
Speaker 1: racists or home of It's like they are racists and
Speaker 1: homo hopes you can hurt you, and there are racists
Speaker 1: and homo folks who can't, and like and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, like what was I gonna do?
Speaker 1: Be like, you're fucking stupid idiot, Like I know, like
Speaker 1: there's nothing, like I'm not going to see this person
Speaker 1: ever again, And I don't think I have it in
Speaker 1: me to like convince him that they don't put cancer
Speaker 1: in the vaccine. You know, it's even harder though sometimes
Speaker 1: like that's a stranger and you can tap out, like
Speaker 1: when I recently this is this is rough, like because
Speaker 1: I'm not super close with a lot of my extensive
Speaker 1: family anymore, I actually have never really engaged them on
Speaker 1: anything that we disagree about, like socially, and I certainly
Speaker 1: haven't spoken to a lot of people during the pandemic.
Speaker 1: But now with the vaccine, I actually found myself in
Speaker 1: a conversation with a relative, not anyone in my immediate family,
Speaker 1: but who I disagree with about the vaccine, and it
Speaker 1: was just it's actually so much harder than you think
Speaker 1: it's going to be because it ends up being a
Speaker 1: very emotional conversation because it's about so much more than
Speaker 1: just that. It's about like fundamentally disagreeing as people and
Speaker 1: the most basic facts. And that makes you not recognize
Speaker 1: the person, you know what I mean, Like like when
Speaker 1: it's when it's someone that you just kind of casually
Speaker 1: have to have that interaction with, like it is what
Speaker 1: you're saying, like this person can either not hurt me
Speaker 1: or whatever, like I I can choose to engage or
Speaker 1: not engage. But then it's like you get to this
Speaker 1: weird place where you're like, I know this person is
Speaker 1: not trying to hurt me or themselves. I've known this
Speaker 1: person their entire life, but fundamentally, on something like this,
Speaker 1: we just miss each other. And then it makes you
Speaker 1: feel kind of crazy, when did that happen? How did
Speaker 1: that happen? How are you as passionate about this as
Speaker 1: I am? And you imagine that it has to come
Speaker 1: down to information, but it's scary when that's false information,
Speaker 1: And then it's weird. It's it's just it's tough when
Speaker 1: that information shapes your reality and like their reality. That's
Speaker 1: when it And then that's why it's emotional, is because
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, we don't live that, we're not in
Speaker 1: the same world. It's crazy. Yeah, I can feel like that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are we being so bummering right now? No,
Speaker 1: it's true, by the way, it's true. This is something
Speaker 1: that like everyone deals with, Like I have, like Matt,
Speaker 1: like not members of my family that are my immediate family,
Speaker 1: but in my family not necessarily as it pertains to
Speaker 1: the vaccine as a couple of people that are huge
Speaker 1: pro lifers, and I for a very long time, whenever
Speaker 1: I'm around these said relatives of mine, I'm kind of like, wow,
Speaker 1: single issue pro life voters. Yeah, so like that to me,
Speaker 1: I'm just and they're women. By the way, Um, it's
Speaker 1: probably like you know, tangentially Catholic, but it comes down
Speaker 1: to being. It also comes down to a been so
Speaker 1: much the catholique. It comes down to like fear and
Speaker 1: probably something that happened in their life that I don't
Speaker 1: know about. And you know, it's just like the onion
Speaker 1: can just keep on peeling and peeling and peeling and
Speaker 1: peeling and peeling. But when I was like, I remember
Speaker 1: when I was like in high school, I was like,
Speaker 1: and then get out of talking, don you know, like
Speaker 1: stumping in my little duck Martin's. And then it's like
Speaker 1: you're actually confronted with being hit on with the relative.
Speaker 1: Immediately I'm like, and it's so nice to see you, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, you're banana cake is amazing. Immediately it's hard.
Speaker 1: It's it's hard. I mean, it got so bad that
Speaker 1: actually I ended up saying, I think you're I think
Speaker 1: what you think is ridiculous and left the room. I
Speaker 1: actually had to leave the room and then come back,
Speaker 1: and I did end up apologizing, which is weird because
Speaker 1: I at no point think that I said anything unreasonable.
Speaker 1: But when the other person gets so upset, you know,
Speaker 1: you know in your heart that they're not a bad person,
Speaker 1: it's confusing. You have to separate, step away, and I
Speaker 1: don't know, I think that's a part of disagreement that
Speaker 1: we don't think about. Is it's like, I do think
Speaker 1: the conversation got better after I stepped away, apologize for
Speaker 1: making this person feel a certain way, and then we
Speaker 1: were able to really talk about what was going on.
Speaker 1: Because I also feel like most of the time, in
Speaker 1: disagreements with people close to you, stopping and asking why
Speaker 1: is it that you are really upset is actually something
Speaker 1: that people forget to do, like why are what is
Speaker 1: making you upset? Right, I would just like to clarify
Speaker 1: I do not cower to these relatives, especially when it happened,
Speaker 1: but especially I don't want anybody to think that in
Speaker 1: the election or even election anyway, was like, you know,
Speaker 1: not having these serious conversations that we should be having.
Speaker 1: But I think that when you're a teenager, especially like
Speaker 1: I for example, as a teenager felt very self righteous,
Speaker 1: I felt very strong, and I felt very like I
Speaker 1: can't fucking talk to anyone, and then likebviously, when you're sixteen,
Speaker 1: that's not true. I think that it actually is kind
Speaker 1: of scary to confront an elder in many ways, but
Speaker 1: like now I've had these conversations with my extended family,
Speaker 1: the few people that have these beliefs as it pertains
Speaker 1: to pro life, but it's still very hard because it's
Speaker 1: like it's not so hard to have the conversation, it's
Speaker 1: hard to find the way in because it's like I
Speaker 1: genuinely don't know my way in with you, you seventy
Speaker 1: eight year old woman. I don't know how I'm going
Speaker 1: to talk to you about this because I can't. I
Speaker 1: can bring up to you that I'm a woman. I
Speaker 1: can bring him to you that I need to have,
Speaker 1: you know, choice, control of my body, of my health,
Speaker 1: and beyond that, and it's just hard. It's like, I
Speaker 1: think what it comes down to is any misunderstanding. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say any misunderstanding probably wrong. I shouldn't generalize this way,
Speaker 1: but any misunderstanding comes down to one or with people
Speaker 1: assuming something incorrect. Yes, just assuming something wrong. That's all.
Speaker 1: I'll end it there, which I know I don't and
Speaker 1: I know it's like so general that it's meaningless, but
Speaker 1: it's like it's like any like any time I like
Speaker 1: am angry at someone or find myself in conflict, it
Speaker 1: usually means that either I am assuming something wrong about
Speaker 1: someone else or they're assuming something wrong about me. And
Speaker 1: that's frustrating to me as as someone who's receiving that assumption,
Speaker 1: which is why I think it's important to actually break
Speaker 1: it down to just emotionally, and maybe this is like
Speaker 1: my newfound emotional awareness that you were mentioning before. But
Speaker 1: I've found that it's actually quite effective to be like,
Speaker 1: I want to know why you feel the way that
Speaker 1: you feel, like, tell me what's upsetting you, so that
Speaker 1: we can talk about how I'm contributing to it, or
Speaker 1: how the things that you're hearing are making you feel
Speaker 1: this way. And then it did get I think it
Speaker 1: got better. Obviously no one made any big changes in
Speaker 1: their vaccinations status after that. But obviously I don't like,
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't I don't engage in the conversation
Speaker 1: to fight. I engage in the conversation because I want
Speaker 1: people to get vaccinated and be healthy, and because I
Speaker 1: know it protects other people, and I don't want someone
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want this ship spread, so that
Speaker 1: literally it's tilled the last two years. But also the
Speaker 1: only way that you can even like remotely get changed
Speaker 1: to start happening isn't just talking about it. So like
Speaker 1: I could think, oh, my conversations with my nearly eight
Speaker 1: year old relative are completely pointless, But then who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe we talk and then maybe next time I see
Speaker 1: her this coming Christmas, she'll say, I hear you. I
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, I think that, like it's you
Speaker 1: can't be defeatist about things that are issues that need
Speaker 1: to fundamentally change in our culture and our society. So
Speaker 1: it's like, obviously you need to talk to your family
Speaker 1: about getting back to like hello, get the vaccine, and like,
Speaker 1: I don't care if you don't eventually get it. Someone
Speaker 1: needs to tell you they need to be getting it.
Speaker 1: But I warned people around me. I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: bringing it up. I'm bringing it up. I was like,
Speaker 1: just so everyone's warned, like it's coming up, just sort
Speaker 1: of topics, which I you mentioned yourself as a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old being a righteous little demon, and um, I
Speaker 1: was on your podcast, your new podcasting your Superlatives, and
Speaker 1: I have found that, like it is actually quite therapeutic
Speaker 1: to think about yourself at that time, um in interesting ways,
Speaker 1: Like it's in thinking how far you've come, in thinking
Speaker 1: the obstacles that you've overcome from then to now. Um,
Speaker 1: what made you want to do this podcast about this
Speaker 1: time and and why? Yeah, Well, Bowen, first of all,
Speaker 1: you need to be on my little I'm so happy too.
Speaker 1: I would be thrilled Bowen in high school is something
Speaker 1: I really wish I could have seen because I actually
Speaker 1: think we would have been I actually think we would
Speaker 1: have had a um. We would have recognized each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think we would have been Neither of
Speaker 1: us would have been brave enough to like try to
Speaker 1: befriend the other. We couldn't have been met and Bowen,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but I think that. But I think
Speaker 1: that that was just the times we were in. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I would say. It would have been like
Speaker 1: culturalist to recognized culturalista sister, recognized sister. Do you think
Speaker 1: that either of you would have been friends with me
Speaker 1: in high school? I think I would have been friends
Speaker 1: with you. It would have I would have taken I
Speaker 1: would have It would have taken a lot of convincing
Speaker 1: from me. I would have had to really persuade you. Oh.
Speaker 1: I would think you would have taken convincing from me
Speaker 1: for you to be my friend. I was deeply uncool,
Speaker 1: but I think I was, like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: made me do this podcast. Well, okay, I had High
Speaker 1: school for me was like so from bananas. It was hell.
Speaker 1: It was such deep rooted trauma, so much of it,
Speaker 1: and like you know, I talked about it all the
Speaker 1: time in therapy, and I'm just like, you know, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have one real friend that went to my proper
Speaker 1: high school who is a fellow n YU alum of yours,
Speaker 1: Patrick Foley Patrick. And you know, it's interesting when I
Speaker 1: talked to him about high school because he remembers so
Speaker 1: many things that, like I said and did that I
Speaker 1: genuinely don't remember. Doesn't that yet breaks me specifically because
Speaker 1: Patrick and I are much closer now than we were
Speaker 1: in high school. But you were friends back then. We
Speaker 1: were friends. However, I was like very much like floater girls,
Speaker 1: stoner girl, like I will. I was kind of friends
Speaker 1: with every I was kind of like friends with everyone,
Speaker 1: and I also like attached to no one. And I
Speaker 1: think I had a really big fear of like, you know,
Speaker 1: if these people actually get to know me, then they'll
Speaker 1: actually see that I'm not as cool as I'm like
Speaker 1: giving off, you know. So I was like very much
Speaker 1: so the girl smoking cigarettes in the alley, being bad
Speaker 1: in class, but also being like loved and being funny
Speaker 1: and fun which is a hard person to be because
Speaker 1: in many ways, like you're excelling in certain aspects of
Speaker 1: the social life that is very fundamental and important to
Speaker 1: being an adolescent. But in other ways, I was like
Speaker 1: screaming for help and screaming for anyone to just like
Speaker 1: literally maybe attention, because I was just so void of
Speaker 1: it in my family life. And yeah, I think that,
Speaker 1: like high school was just such a weirdly traumatic and
Speaker 1: impactful thing in my life, and the whole entire time,
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot wait to be done with
Speaker 1: this fucking ship. I was like, I hate this place,
Speaker 1: I hate these people. This is bullshit. I will never
Speaker 1: need to know about geometry ever in my life. I
Speaker 1: will never need to know about ap fucking European history
Speaker 1: ever in my life. I will never need to tell
Speaker 1: you about um like how cells split. Like literally, let
Speaker 1: me fucking go. Every day you're being asked about the
Speaker 1: Habsburgs and me. Every single day I am now being
Speaker 1: asked to sorry, no, it's every single day I am
Speaker 1: being asked to calculate hip hop news, soid okay. Every
Speaker 1: single day you were asked to really look at look
Speaker 1: at a graph and go, what's the pall, where's the
Speaker 1: inflection point? Can you do this? Log bit? I said,
Speaker 1: come on, X axis, y axis, mitochondria, Come on trigonometruth
Speaker 1: and you say what year was versus I built? But
Speaker 1: I truly was just like I was just like I
Speaker 1: don't need this. I needed it right and now. And
Speaker 1: then now I'm kind of like, wow, I have stressed
Speaker 1: dreams about this, really yeah, and I'm like, I need
Speaker 1: to work through this. I need to talk through this.
Speaker 1: And I think that something that has brought me comfort
Speaker 1: about this has been being able to talk through it
Speaker 1: and about it with my with people that I want
Speaker 1: to talk to, compare it, compare it, or just like
Speaker 1: you know, some people have comforable opposite high school experiences,
Speaker 1: is me? Matt had one that's completely opposite, is me?
Speaker 1: I mean when I talked to meet Harry, she had
Speaker 1: one that was so opposite of me. Like school, Mitra
Speaker 1: loved high school. She was great in class, she was
Speaker 1: great in theater, she was great with sports. She was
Speaker 1: like she was like a triple high school threat. But
Speaker 1: yet it was still hard and like shitty and weird,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think that for me,
Speaker 1: the things that have made me move on from my
Speaker 1: like weird old time is being like, oh maybe this
Speaker 1: was just really weird for everyone. Maybe I don't actually
Speaker 1: need to be watching like these toxic nineties high school
Speaker 1: movies thinking that that is what my high school experience.
Speaker 1: It's a fantasy, right, it's a fantasy, but like there
Speaker 1: is for some people it was, it is that and
Speaker 1: I actually, and you know, everyone you know, at least
Speaker 1: at least people I know, are always like, if you
Speaker 1: peached in high school, that sucks, blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you know, if you peaked in high school,
Speaker 1: you are developmentally on a fully different path than like
Speaker 1: most people, and that is rare and like good for them.
Speaker 1: But but I will just come out and say, if
Speaker 1: you like, if high school was easy for you, then
Speaker 1: like something is wrong with you now. I'm sorry, Yeah,
Speaker 1: something is fundamentally wrong. Yeah, something is darkly wrong with
Speaker 1: you now. And I'm just gonna say, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: any reader, if you had an easy high school experience,
Speaker 1: I don't do not come near me. Yeah, you gotta
Speaker 1: look at yourself in the mirror, don't come near look
Speaker 1: at kidding. I'm kidding, but you know, like I know,
Speaker 1: I agree, don't just agree with you. I think people struggled, Yes,
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is like people did struggle.
Speaker 1: I think that, Like what's interesting about doing this podcast
Speaker 1: is like I talked to certain people. Matt Rogers is
Speaker 1: a perfect example, like, you know, really evolved through high school,
Speaker 1: became friends with the popular kids, became very popular, was
Speaker 1: desired by a bunch of people, ended up becoming prom
Speaker 1: king like all of these was an incredibly runner was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, just can I'll qualify this. It started
Speaker 1: out fucking dark, But this is what I was just
Speaker 1: about to say. I was just about to say, even
Speaker 1: though your story, even though the story was at the end,
Speaker 1: this like, okay, it all worked out for this person.
Speaker 1: By the way, you were burdened with so much pain.
Speaker 1: Number one being the fact that you were deeply closeted
Speaker 1: and dealing with your sexuality and the fact that like
Speaker 1: you know, you had girls stopping you at like running
Speaker 1: camp and giving your anxiety. Well, I mean, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I think that when you're in high school, it's like
Speaker 1: it is a weird thing because right, it's like you
Speaker 1: can either learn you can either try to adapt to
Speaker 1: your situation or you can be like fuck, this can't
Speaker 1: wait for this to be over. And I think actually
Speaker 1: it's a more evolved thing to be like funk this
Speaker 1: and can't wait for this to be over, because it
Speaker 1: actually doesn't really have that much to do at all
Speaker 1: with the rest of how your the course of your
Speaker 1: life goes. But when you're there, it feels like the
Speaker 1: biggest thing in the world. So I genuinely felt like
Speaker 1: at the time because my world was so small. I
Speaker 1: maybe it was because I was from a suburban area,
Speaker 1: you know, like I just felt like I had to
Speaker 1: change into what was idealized at the time because there
Speaker 1: was no there was nothing bigger, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: of course I had dreams of like, you know, moving
Speaker 1: away and like starting my career and like being successful
Speaker 1: at whatever, but it didn't it didn't feel real enough
Speaker 1: to me to not completely um try to fit into
Speaker 1: the very small box of what was going to be
Speaker 1: quote unquote popular. And then when I did win prom
Speaker 1: king at the end of it, I did feel like
Speaker 1: I quote unquote one. Then the very harsh reality was
Speaker 1: I stepped foot in n y U and everyone just
Speaker 1: laughed at me because because they thought I was so
Speaker 1: fake and they thought I was so like uncultured, and
Speaker 1: it was it was was it a reset, like you
Speaker 1: felt like it was like, oh, it's freshman year of
Speaker 1: high school all over again. Like this is like you
Speaker 1: have to do you start at a new waterline. Well,
Speaker 1: you have to decide again, you have to decide, and
Speaker 1: you guys both know what this is, Like, who actually
Speaker 1: am I going to be here? Well? I try to
Speaker 1: figure out who I am, which I've never done before,
Speaker 1: or will I actually done what I've done many times
Speaker 1: and try to adapt to whatever they need me to
Speaker 1: be to not to not uh make a make a
Speaker 1: wave here or like stand out in the wrong way.
Speaker 1: And ultimately that time I decided, let's just try to
Speaker 1: figure out who I am and actually do my thing,
Speaker 1: thank God. But you know, it's weird when you think
Speaker 1: people that were not challenged in high school, like you're saying, bowen,
Speaker 1: are they still doing that? I feel like we're recording
Speaker 1: this on October eleven. We're recording this a little early. Um,
Speaker 1: it's National coming Out Day. I don't think too I
Speaker 1: don't put too much thought into I think it's a
Speaker 1: wonderful thing that people get to think about. But like
Speaker 1: coming out as its own way of adapting and I
Speaker 1: am I like talking in like a weird circle like
Speaker 1: as a as a way to like be like, oh
Speaker 1: I am the circumstances are finally demanding it, or I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable to come out, like I think it was just
Speaker 1: I mean college as soon as you came out, man,
Speaker 1: I feel like that changed the course of everything in
Speaker 1: your life, of course, but like absolutely, I feel like,
Speaker 1: but when when I came out, it wasn't me saying like,
Speaker 1: I'm coming out and this is who I am. Really,
Speaker 1: what it was was I'm coming out, which means I'm
Speaker 1: ready to start figuring out who I am based on
Speaker 1: this no longer being an obstacle in my life and
Speaker 1: in my um interior you know, so inter your life. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my self determination is not going to have to um
Speaker 1: deal with this thing in my life that is stopping
Speaker 1: me from from being myself, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 1: But but I also think, like you know, I really
Speaker 1: think about what you just said, which is that, you know,
Speaker 1: if people had an easy in high school and never
Speaker 1: stopped having it easy, I just I have ultimately feel
Speaker 1: bad for them because they've never had to actually say
Speaker 1: but who am I? And I think that's the cause
Speaker 1: of a lot of you know, not to get too
Speaker 1: general about this, but like you know, when someone has
Speaker 1: like a quarter life crisis or a midlife crisis, that's
Speaker 1: just because you're only then ready to walk the path
Speaker 1: of like, let me get real with myself, what do
Speaker 1: I actually want? Like? And so then I'm grateful to
Speaker 1: have gone through hard things early. I think you guys
Speaker 1: both know what you guys want out of life. I
Speaker 1: think you do too. I don't know that I do anymore. Well.
Speaker 1: I think that this is again like the same. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this has become like a full like us like analyzing
Speaker 1: each other, but I do it's family. I think that
Speaker 1: when our identities get so seeped into something that is
Speaker 1: bigger than ourselves in many ways, you cannot see. And
Speaker 1: this is one of my least favorite terms to use,
Speaker 1: and I are saying to use and I hate that
Speaker 1: I'm using it. You can't see the forest through the trees.
Speaker 1: And I fucking hate it when people use that. And
Speaker 1: someone used that, Why do you hate that? Because essentially
Speaker 1: it's just a it's just an expression for what we've been.
Speaker 1: Someone use that about a piece of my work that
Speaker 1: I have been pouring by my my heart and soul
Speaker 1: into and it stung me very badly, but I think that, like,
Speaker 1: I think that was so much of what we do.
Speaker 1: It's like so much. I think about Julio and he
Speaker 1: like posts on Instagram and he's like, here's products for
Speaker 1: all my consumers. It's like there is a mentality of
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, like we are all product. And I
Speaker 1: think that it's really hard to be like I'm giving him,
Speaker 1: giving him, giving him, giving him giving I know that
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be doing this and the people like
Speaker 1: it when I do that, and the people want to
Speaker 1: hear me say this, and the people think it's funny
Speaker 1: when I do that that it's very hard to like,
Speaker 1: we'd whack your way through your brain to be like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, what the funk do I like? Like?
Speaker 1: What do I think is funny? What do I think
Speaker 1: is cool? What do I want to watch? What do
Speaker 1: I want to listen to? Am I listening to this
Speaker 1: because I'm actually interested in it? Or am I listening
Speaker 1: to this because I think it's gonna for some reason
Speaker 1: like give me social currency or make me more interesting
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's like this whole thing just like bogs
Speaker 1: you the funk down. And I think that when you
Speaker 1: become a very front facing person as you have entered.
Speaker 1: Over the course of you doing this podcast, your career
Speaker 1: has taken a huge leap forward in many ways. It's
Speaker 1: hard for you to sit comfortably in yourself every night
Speaker 1: and be like, who is Bowen actually, and who is
Speaker 1: the Bowen that I think I need to be like
Speaker 1: giving a world because the world is like a vicious,
Speaker 1: fucking psycho plate. Yeah. So it's like it's hard, it's
Speaker 1: but no, what you're seeing is exactly right. It's like
Speaker 1: it literally is the opposite of self definition when all
Speaker 1: of your interests are being or like or your identity
Speaker 1: is being fed back to you, reflected back to you
Speaker 1: by your quote unquote audience. Yeah, I'm having people tell
Speaker 1: me who I am and like on this mass scale,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is incomprehensible and I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do with us. And it's actually crossing all
Speaker 1: the wires that I've like carefully laid out in my
Speaker 1: own brain over the course of like my adult life
Speaker 1: that I'm going, wait, I don't I can't tell, like,
Speaker 1: I can't tell how to like make sense of any
Speaker 1: of this. It's weird, it's dark, it's but it's where
Speaker 1: I'm at Yeah, I also think that people are comfortable
Speaker 1: feeling that way and also um like contributing to that,
Speaker 1: like because there is something about high school like socially
Speaker 1: anyway that like feels like a version of what we have.
Speaker 1: And so maybe maybe we did have more problems with
Speaker 1: it than than we think, because I do think that
Speaker 1: we've elected to do something where ideally, if you're successful,
Speaker 1: people will talk about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And so there is something about maybe maybe there is
Speaker 1: something about like people that then try to be an
Speaker 1: entertainment or try to be public. Um that there is
Speaker 1: some sort of wanting to read to high school. And
Speaker 1: I don't mean that to drag myself or anyone who
Speaker 1: tries to do this, but there's something about a personality
Speaker 1: type that pursues this career. That's all I'm saying. Of course,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying there's something specific to of doing this.
Speaker 1: Um of I'm saying this is not me. This is
Speaker 1: like everybody who uses in stream because Instagram is ultimately
Speaker 1: a marketing It's a marketing platform, right, It's like that's
Speaker 1: not actually posting pictures of vacation, it's you like presenting
Speaker 1: yourself to the world. Unless you know your profile is
Speaker 1: private or locked, and then it's the algorithm telling you, well,
Speaker 1: this is what I think you like. And so I'm
Speaker 1: saying everyone deals with this in some way. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, the trick mirror. It's like the whole Ga
Speaker 1: Talentina thing. It's like we're being shown a reflection of
Speaker 1: ourselves that's fully fun house fully like not legible at all.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I don't know what to do,
Speaker 1: and so whatever I've I've smoked a lot of weed,
Speaker 1: evidently us as readers know, um, but it's been helpful
Speaker 1: because last night I took an edible and I just like,
Speaker 1: late in bed it made myself a flaming hot salad
Speaker 1: which was flaming flaming hot ruffles, barbecue and flaming hot cheetoes,
Speaker 1: and I used chopsticks and I just like, because of
Speaker 1: that with my fingers don't get dirty, dirty fingers, don't
Speaker 1: get dirty. That's how the Mookbung people do it. I
Speaker 1: learned that check on Search party set there was a
Speaker 1: costumer that always opened up her chips and eating with chopsticks,
Speaker 1: and I was like, holy ship, it's so chic. Actually,
Speaker 1: like we're watching TV just with chopsticks and the bullet chips,
Speaker 1: and I just there's no, there's no. The most elegant
Speaker 1: way to eat is with chops chopsticks, I agree, and
Speaker 1: to to cook to like if you're fucking like frying
Speaker 1: something in the pan, or you can flip over like
Speaker 1: something you just try. When I see that egg twirl
Speaker 1: with the chopsticks on, when I see slow cooking eggs
Speaker 1: twirling in the gorgeous spiral with the chopsticks, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's it. That's it. Chopsticks are cunts. Are count culture
Speaker 1: and numbers are cunt. You know. It's funny, Like study
Speaker 1: came over last night we ordered Thai food and if
Speaker 1: they didn't put any cutlery in the bag, did you
Speaker 1: have to use the chopsticks? Well, I went over because
Speaker 1: I usually have a whole bunch of chopsticks just stored
Speaker 1: up because I love to use chopsticks, and all I
Speaker 1: had was forks. I've run out of all my chopsticks,
Speaker 1: so then we had to eat with forks, and I
Speaker 1: was so disappointed. It's not it's a different experience. I
Speaker 1: would also just like to give a shout out to
Speaker 1: my dear friend Sasha, her mother, who is an icon
Speaker 1: eats a banana every morning, slice up with chopsticks. It's
Speaker 1: either chopsticks or a chief pick. And when I saw
Speaker 1: her interchangeably beginners, I was like, this bitch is not
Speaker 1: fucking around and that's pea. Chopsticks are stabbed through. No
Speaker 1: pick it up with abou eat it little slice of
Speaker 1: banana at a time. And this is an iconic Russian woman.
Speaker 1: This is like, we don't you know and for me
Speaker 1: the ultimate respect. Actually wait, I take it back. I
Speaker 1: just said that's fucking crazy, but it's actually no, she
Speaker 1: is making it a ritual, yes, because she wants to
Speaker 1: eat slowly and she wants to eat consciously. That's her
Speaker 1: whole thing where she's like I don't just want to,
Speaker 1: you know, choke down the banana, you know. For me, honey,
Speaker 1: nowhere green fis we're putting up an down to bye
Speaker 1: okay or just one whole goal, you know? I bananason
Speaker 1: one bye you were you were missed the other night
Speaker 1: when why Halloween horror night and I went to my
Speaker 1: favorite person to hear a laugh her ass off on
Speaker 1: the theme park ride they're goofle Loop. Do you want
Speaker 1: to give your reviews? Of the rides that we did,
Speaker 1: I need to hear them. Okay, here's the thing for
Speaker 1: all of the readers. I don't know if they are
Speaker 1: as big as you know, theme, if they're parkers, what
Speaker 1: is what do you call them? Femurs? Theme parkers? What
Speaker 1: do you what's the name for that? Their their champions champions.
Speaker 1: If you're an amazing warrior and you fight the battle
Speaker 1: every time, you stunning warrior. Um, here's my review. I'm
Speaker 1: actually gonna open maths text because I will ultimately forget
Speaker 1: some of the names of the rides, So I'm going
Speaker 1: to just scroll to that, and here's what I'm gonna say. Okay,
Speaker 1: we went on for We went on four rides, four
Speaker 1: rides at Universal, We went on Harry Potter, Transformer's, Jurassic World,
Speaker 1: and Mommy and everyone out there needs to know that
Speaker 1: I as a child, we did not go to parks.
Speaker 1: We did not go to like that was not a
Speaker 1: part of my culture. That was that No, Like I
Speaker 1: was I was watching Jane Fonda workout tapes and I
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and I was like smoking cigarettes at
Speaker 1: the age of eleven. Okay, it was like, not, We're
Speaker 1: not going to the park. You know what I mean, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I know if you were, my mom would have dropped
Speaker 1: me off. When I was twelve, I've been like, here's
Speaker 1: a cell phone, you call me when you're done. Like, no,
Speaker 1: we were not going. And the one time we did go,
Speaker 1: I was seven years old, went to Disney World and
Speaker 1: I was just obsessed with collecting autographs. That was all
Speaker 1: I wanted to do. I did not I didn't want
Speaker 1: to go on the rides. I didn't want to do
Speaker 1: any of that. Ship didn't want to eat the food.
Speaker 1: I wanted the autographs. And I remember Chippendale's autograph was
Speaker 1: the best because they put their little teeth in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're little little teeth, Yeah, the little choppers and they
Speaker 1: can nature. They're like okay. It was like yeah. And
Speaker 1: then it was like they made the C and the
Speaker 1: D look like little smile and faces. So it was
Speaker 1: kind of like little teeth like that. That's it looks like.
Speaker 1: It looks like it looks like imagine the capital C
Speaker 1: and D having testicles that and they probably made them
Speaker 1: not round, They probably made them square balls. They probably
Speaker 1: made them like this. But we're talking about has drawn anyway.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing I just wanted the autograph, so
Speaker 1: I rides are very new to my life. Matt introduced
Speaker 1: rides in my life, so you can't take them seriously
Speaker 1: because your reaction. And then I'm like, I love it
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, this is wild, like visual reality.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is crazy. And also just like I
Speaker 1: love people are obsessed with Harry Potter. I mean I
Speaker 1: never read this, but people love it. And who was
Speaker 1: like really excited what you thought of the Harry Potter
Speaker 1: and the Forbidden Journey. Okay, Harry Potter and the Forbidden
Speaker 1: Journey's gonna have to say set designed stunning, those candles,
Speaker 1: those floating candles, that makes me wedding. That is a
Speaker 1: wedding venue, Okay. The paintings moving and real, unreal donning
Speaker 1: the whole It's gorgeous in there, Okay. It looks like
Speaker 1: a beautiful, scary home that I would love to go to,
Speaker 1: castle that I would love to go to a dinner
Speaker 1: party at. I mean, she's Hogwarts for a reason. That's
Speaker 1: why I call her a Hargard. I mean, Hogwarts is gorgeous.
Speaker 1: The story. I think her money is a flop at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, but I also her money
Speaker 1: is the number one. Well, we left the ride and
Speaker 1: I literally turned to Greta and I was like, her
Speaker 1: money is so good at magic, Like she is so good,
Speaker 1: she's without a doubt, the best. But you know what's
Speaker 1: annoying about her money is that it's like she needs
Speaker 1: to know she's the best, and then she needs to
Speaker 1: just like know what In Ron sucks, she's completely dating
Speaker 1: a flop. It's like she walks around all confident and
Speaker 1: knows her magic and then she goes home to Ron.
Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, from no, she's not dating Ron in
Speaker 1: real life. Like Ron sucks. Ron suck can fuck the
Speaker 1: house down. One thing is Liken's not sex. You read
Speaker 1: one book and you're like, this guy is not good.
Speaker 1: Ron is not good at sex. He can't even finger,
Speaker 1: he cannot wear now. And also he probably is one
Speaker 1: of those weirdos that's like I'm gonna need you to
Speaker 1: shower first fuck that, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: I think he's like making out and then he's like
Speaker 1: before we go, need for the right and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: need you to shower, and like Harry probably could it sucks,
Speaker 1: Harry dick you the fun down. And even if Harry,
Speaker 1: Like you know, he might be small in body, but
Speaker 1: in in energy. It's not the size of the prize,
Speaker 1: it's the motion it is. So basically, your review of
Speaker 1: Harry Potter and the for Bridging Journey is um for
Speaker 1: your review is a great set deck. You love the candles.
Speaker 1: Hermione is a flop and shouldn't be fucking ron But
Speaker 1: you did think the dementors were scary. Love the dementors,
Speaker 1: the dementor Sleigh there's the one dement that really gets
Speaker 1: like within. I love the dementors. Identify with them. I
Speaker 1: understand they don't you know. They are just spooky and
Speaker 1: their second life out of people and there they look
Speaker 1: Rick Owens, Okay, they're in Like yeah it is Rick.
Speaker 1: It's really culture n two Rick, it's Alex McQueen. What
Speaker 1: he what not? What he designed? But what here? What
Speaker 1: do yes? Exactly? Wait? Okay, So would you give it
Speaker 1: the gold, silver or bronze medal? I would, honestly I
Speaker 1: could give it a gold just to see the fashion
Speaker 1: and the culture that is Hogwarts and de Mentors. Okay, So, Greta,
Speaker 1: what is your review of Jurassic World The ride Camp
Speaker 1: Camp Camp Camp, Jurassic World is Jastic World is balance, Yes,
Speaker 1: Jurassic World. For me, if I were to be like,
Speaker 1: what is a theme park? That is the Jurassic World ride.
Speaker 1: It is clunky set design that I love, it's water,
Speaker 1: it's unmatronics, amatronics, it's Bryce Dallas Howard, don't forget d W.
Speaker 1: My love as a one or purest. Yeah, show was
Speaker 1: never the same once they left. No, not when Henry left.
Speaker 1: But Beat is so hot in the and the inline
Speaker 1: sort of footage like he looks so, he looks really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can we just briefly talk about Beat for one second?
Speaker 1: He's one hundred and forty three episodes of Law and
Speaker 1: Order SPU. I mean the other day I looked up
Speaker 1: how many Mariska has done. It's like she's done, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: but crazy. But just like Blanket being in one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty three episodes of anything, I'm like what and
Speaker 1: like fucking like Wanta Tony when he was like in
Speaker 1: his twenties or like late twenties, early thirties, and like
Speaker 1: Mr Robot, he's someone who could eat got Yes, he
Speaker 1: deserves he deserves the egot, he already has the He
Speaker 1: is like the hardest one to get in. I agree
Speaker 1: he is the hardest one to get it. Egot, I
Speaker 1: think g is the easiest one to get because you
Speaker 1: can just yeah, hello, yes, we know how we're getting
Speaker 1: our G me too, or be in a big broad
Speaker 1: By show. But I think you guys can get a
Speaker 1: g for this because you know eventually they are going
Speaker 1: to put in podcasts. They have to the Grammy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we should, Bowen. We should win a Grammy for this podcast.
Speaker 1: We should. I'm nominating Last Culture for Grammys. You know,
Speaker 1: the podcast has received critical acclaim. We should. We should
Speaker 1: win a Grammy for the top two moments in Culture episodes.
Speaker 1: If we don't win an award for something soon, I'm
Speaker 1: freaking out. I'm already nominating you guys, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to buy you each a little present because that's you
Speaker 1: win awards for greta Um Transformers. I want to silver
Speaker 1: or bronze medal. I give Jurassic gold because I think
Speaker 1: the Jurassic needs I think that if you are someone
Speaker 1: that's like I just want to have this experience. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be playful. I don't want to take itself
Speaker 1: too seriously. I wanted to be a little wet and wild,
Speaker 1: I want there's something for everyone. And also, here's the
Speaker 1: one thing about Jurassic World. You gotta go during the
Speaker 1: day because at night they don't have good enough night lighting.
Speaker 1: And Universal famously not a park that's open at night.
Speaker 1: I can forget him for that. However, Universal, you've got
Speaker 1: enough point that you can give me a little set
Speaker 1: deck that when you know you're going to be open
Speaker 1: late for the Halloween Spectacular, you got to light up
Speaker 1: the jungle in there because I can't see the you know,
Speaker 1: the pterodactyl, I can't see the Bronchiosaurus. I can't see
Speaker 1: what's happening here. And this is the thing that I
Speaker 1: wanted to point out is that Greta, I don't think
Speaker 1: you went. You went on the original Jurassic Park ride.
Speaker 1: They kind of they kind of refurbished that one and
Speaker 1: the animatronics and that aged really terribly. When don't you say, Matt,
Speaker 1: but give us some credit. The Indominus Rex was carrying
Speaker 1: down when when Mother comes out, I was like, and
Speaker 1: then they do the drop, and you were guiged for
Speaker 1: the drop, drop the drop. And this is why Jurassic
Speaker 1: World is the ride is camp. This is why she
Speaker 1: said it's camp because when mother comes out, you might
Speaker 1: as well be saying pretended to indominut rex next, go
Speaker 1: to Universal the indominant text to Sammy, it is exactly okay.
Speaker 1: So but it still wins the gold medal. Talk about Transformers.
Speaker 1: You know, Transformers used to take the gold for me,
Speaker 1: and that Transformers is taking this over. And let's tell
Speaker 1: you why. I'll tell you three D. You're not a
Speaker 1: fan of the three D well. I think that we
Speaker 1: rely a little bit too much on the tricks of
Speaker 1: VR and not enough on the tricks of you figuring
Speaker 1: out some robotics ship to blow my mind, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think that we're relying a lot
Speaker 1: on the screen, a lot of what we can do.
Speaker 1: And it was very in vogue back in the day though,
Speaker 1: when you say, Matt, yes, science, science is amazing, and
Speaker 1: that's what VR is a science science. So the science
Speaker 1: and Transformers you love, but it wins the silver metal
Speaker 1: because we just felt too many screens. I thought too
Speaker 1: many screens. I felt could we be doing this in
Speaker 1: the comfort of my own home? I thought, could we be?
Speaker 1: You know, I can put on a VR headset and
Speaker 1: be having sex with a human like I could probably
Speaker 1: be having this of course berience. You know when when
Speaker 1: star Scream is about to fucking kill you and then
Speaker 1: flies away as a plant. That is a outlocking gag. No,
Speaker 1: it's incredible. Also another gag too, is truly when you
Speaker 1: are plummeting down the skyscrapers, like the finale that is
Speaker 1: the death draw of Transformers. Don't forget the part where
Speaker 1: you get you crashed through a skyscraper window and then
Speaker 1: you go through the office the office space crushed the cubicles, mama.
Speaker 1: I also like when you get swallowed up by that
Speaker 1: machine and come through its back when you see all
Speaker 1: the gears, Yes, and I like that, it's really fabulous
Speaker 1: and the big robot that sucks you up, like yeah,
Speaker 1: bumblebees hot Bube has sexual energy. But okay, so finally,
Speaker 1: the Revenge of the Mummy, Revenge of the Money platinum, platinum,
Speaker 1: I mean Revenge of the Mummy is like when Beyonce
Speaker 1: dropped the Beyonce Visual album. You know, it's it's really
Speaker 1: like that. It's like I think hyper Sexual being the
Speaker 1: Partition video for the first time where you're like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: I did not even know that the is this happening?
Speaker 1: Be a thing. So Mommy does this very amazing thing,
Speaker 1: which is it's taking sort of cultural nods from all
Speaker 1: of the other rides. It's taking the camp at Jurassic
Speaker 1: Park has it taking we are it's not VR really,
Speaker 1: but it's taking some visuals that we have from a
Speaker 1: month from Transformers. It's taking some story that we had
Speaker 1: it Harry Potter, where it's giving us, like Harry Potter
Speaker 1: is very plot driven, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like a plot ride. So it's kind of Harry Potter's
Speaker 1: fans service. It doesn't matter if you've seen the movies.
Speaker 1: You're gonna fuck, You're gonna love it. And also it's
Speaker 1: giving us something unexpected and I just think that, like
Speaker 1: I I don't want to spoil it, but there's a
Speaker 1: drop in that where you are in but darkness and
Speaker 1: you don't know, and then you're going forward, you going back.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh my god, and you give me starting
Speaker 1: the bugs, the bugs, the bugs. So it wins the
Speaker 1: platinum for you, so we know which one you liked
Speaker 1: the best. And then finally my answer to you is
Speaker 1: were you frightened by any of the haunted houses? No?
Speaker 1: Because I have gone to a lot of terrifying haunted
Speaker 1: houses in New York City. And I love to think
Speaker 1: about things. Never i'm getting a little scared. I love
Speaker 1: think about it. Practically. I like to think to myself, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is universal. If this this really fucks me up,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sue, you know what I mean. And they're
Speaker 1: too big to want to do that, So they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we can't have anyone suing us. We don't have anyone
Speaker 1: being so scared that they like get a heart attack.
Speaker 1: They can't actually like be fucking with people enough that
Speaker 1: we really like because it's too big of a company.
Speaker 1: They're tafinite, way too liable. All the stuff I have
Speaker 1: gone to haunted houses here in New York City that
Speaker 1: have that are that should be you shut down that
Speaker 1: like are I mean? I was telling Matt this story.
Speaker 1: I went to one that was in an office building
Speaker 1: one time. I remember, I remember this this one. I
Speaker 1: didn't go to it. I heard about it, and you
Speaker 1: know what it is. It's because it looks like it
Speaker 1: was all decorated from Party City. And you walk into
Speaker 1: these places and be like, Okay, these people have no budget,
Speaker 1: so they're they're relying on performance. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing at Universal is they have
Speaker 1: so much buzzet budget. They're like, look, we are going
Speaker 1: to put you into the set of Us. You're going
Speaker 1: to put you into Texas Chainsaw. You are in the
Speaker 1: set where here it's like you're in a building, and
Speaker 1: you're in a building in midtown. In the building in midtown,
Speaker 1: it was at black lights in and they're silly string
Speaker 1: girl crazy on the set. So there was a I
Speaker 1: was waiting to get in to this scary, scary, haunted
Speaker 1: house and there was a clown own on the street
Speaker 1: entertaining us. And it was like it was like an
Speaker 1: old rusty clown okay, and he was as clown. I mean,
Speaker 1: he looked like Krusty, the clown of Jason. Okay. He
Speaker 1: was like had all the gags, he had the hand buzzer,
Speaker 1: he had the flower with water, and then he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I hate the hand buzzer, Honey, don't
Speaker 1: touch with the hand buzzer. I hate the hand buzzer.
Speaker 1: I will punch you in the packing face if you
Speaker 1: hand buzz my ass. I swear to god, I hate
Speaker 1: the hand buzzer. I think it's an attack you're basically
Speaker 1: it's like a mini ta Yeah. It's one of the
Speaker 1: worst attacks. It's the hand buzzer is actually one of
Speaker 1: the worst. Time you want to send a current through
Speaker 1: my body? How dare you? If you hand me, I'll
Speaker 1: never trust you know. He was doing all this ship
Speaker 1: to me and I was there on a date to
Speaker 1: me and the date and then he finally pulled out
Speaker 1: like a balloon to make me a balloon animal. And
Speaker 1: he started blowing into the balloon and then his eyeball,
Speaker 1: his left eyeball, flew out onto the ground and started
Speaker 1: rolling around. And then he was like my eye, my eye,
Speaker 1: and you as the person is like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I need to get this guy's on the ball because
Speaker 1: it's rolling all over the side wall. Yes, and then
Speaker 1: he bent down. He picks it up. He literally is
Speaker 1: like like breathes on it, polishes it off with a
Speaker 1: sicking rag, and puss the thing back in his head.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, they're gonna kill me in there.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna be worn I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: worn out of this place like a pair of cooking
Speaker 1: leather leggings from the row. I am literally going to
Speaker 1: be yew. The I was exactly lu lu rue And
Speaker 1: then did the actual house end of being scarier than
Speaker 1: this clown. It was just hell. It was like it
Speaker 1: was like kids that were just wanting to fuck with
Speaker 1: you so much and like not leave you alone. I
Speaker 1: do remember there was this one room though, where like
Speaker 1: all of the walls were kind of like stretch spandex
Speaker 1: e like workout fabric, and it was a whole like
Speaker 1: Neon situation, and the people in the walls would just
Speaker 1: like come out and like grab you in this spandex.
Speaker 1: It was like you could be marked with red on
Speaker 1: your head. Was no touch. Yeah, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: don't really want to be taught, that's for sure. But
Speaker 1: when we were walking around the streets, but when have
Speaker 1: you been to Halloween Horror. I've never been to Halloween Horn.
Speaker 1: You would a gag. But the thing is I think
Speaker 1: that they would recognize you when they bigger point to
Speaker 1: try to try to really terrorize you. But the thing is, you, um,
Speaker 1: really they come up to you really far, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them are holding like fake axes and fake
Speaker 1: chainsaws and fake knives, and they would have come up
Speaker 1: and like literally swipe in your face and swing in
Speaker 1: your face, and I was like, literally one time, if
Speaker 1: Mitra had even put her head out like a foot
Speaker 1: like she her head would have gotten hit. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, this is crazy and they have to
Speaker 1: be trained for that, like obviously, and like you hear
Speaker 1: about zero point zero zero times of them connecting with
Speaker 1: people and obviously doesn't happen. They know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: But it's like you're swinging an axe at my head,
Speaker 1: you know what I hated. Mo was like, Mo was like,
Speaker 1: I hate the chainsaws and I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: do too, because it's such an aggressive sound. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really scary. I was like, but why do you
Speaker 1: hate them? And she was like, it just takes one
Speaker 1: crazy person to decide to put the chain on. And
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know about that. It just
Speaker 1: takes one crazy person decides put the chain on and
Speaker 1: I and then I was like, wait, cow, it's crazy.
Speaker 1: But like I do appreciate all of the performers, all
Speaker 1: the actor it's a production. I did miss though, and
Speaker 1: I did miss some of the girls that were on
Speaker 1: stilts a few years ago. I missed them not being there.
Speaker 1: This being on stilts is very scary. They only had
Speaker 1: two people on stilts this year. They were more on
Speaker 1: stilts the first time we went. And the stilts. You're
Speaker 1: scared of the people on the stilts. It's just crazy,
Speaker 1: that terrifying because they're towering over you. And then like
Speaker 1: and they're so scary and they can like jump like
Speaker 1: they're sill there so good on the stilts, and they
Speaker 1: will you like the stilt. The stilts will stock you
Speaker 1: for a really long time, like you're walking in the like, oh,
Speaker 1: these people are working with me, and then you'll look up.
Speaker 1: The next thing you know, you have like the wicker
Speaker 1: man on stilts. Next. La is incredible. It's amazing that
Speaker 1: you get talent like that. And La only in La.
Speaker 1: You go to Disney World, everyone's in l A. It's
Speaker 1: because l A attracts people from all over the world.
Speaker 1: It's called La La Land. Yes it is. Watch it
Speaker 1: and it's an amazing movie because it shows people that
Speaker 1: are very different, all coming to like people like I'm
Speaker 1: a Stone, people like Ryan Gosling, very different, all coming
Speaker 1: to one city, one place to see their Hollywood dream
Speaker 1: come true and dance act perform, creating and cutting traffic
Speaker 1: well simultaneously making it art, and I said relatable, queen.
Speaker 1: And you know what, it's that relatability in the movie
Speaker 1: La La Land that made me say, wow, I see
Speaker 1: my elf. These people and when they do, you know,
Speaker 1: make it and you after all their ups and downs,
Speaker 1: you think that was an amazing story. And I think
Speaker 1: that when I was in Universal Studios Hollywood Horror Nights,
Speaker 1: I thought, all these people came here for a reason,
Speaker 1: their dream. Come on, Bitch, City of Stars, Vibes, City
Speaker 1: of Angels. We are going to move into the segment
Speaker 1: known as I Don't Think So Honey, which is a
Speaker 1: sixty second segment. Really we have one of the best
Speaker 1: in the biz here, my god, a legend um and actually,
Speaker 1: my my I Don't Think So Honey is based on
Speaker 1: something that Greta and I thought we were going to
Speaker 1: do but did not end up doing the other day. Wait,
Speaker 1: you are going to do one and then I'm going
Speaker 1: to do one. That is how it works. Yes, that's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: because I never want this to end. I just want
Speaker 1: to hang out with me when you're ins I r
Speaker 1: L the podcast. It's actually a really culture number one
Speaker 1: hundred and five. Come on, I'm ready. This is Matt Rogers,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. As time starts now, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Of the New James Bond moving
Speaker 1: No Time to Die being two hours and forty five
Speaker 1: minutes long, I'm sorry. We got into the car to go.
Speaker 1: We were all excited to get see the New James Bond.
Speaker 1: We found it. How long it was? Greta and I
Speaker 1: and we turned our ass around and went home and
Speaker 1: we watched Drew Paus trackers. You can sad, Mama, I
Speaker 1: cannot believe that the movie is this long, and the
Speaker 1: year of our Lord? What have we what? It's bad
Speaker 1: for the movie theaters, first of all, because they can
Speaker 1: only show so many. It's bad for the people sitting there.
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you ask people to do? If
Speaker 1: you want to pay attention every second to the narrative,
Speaker 1: They're not going to take a bathroom break. Every review
Speaker 1: of this movie is like, what a great tribute to
Speaker 1: Daniel Kratt, like the bitches day. I have to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, the bitch is very much alive, and
Speaker 1: she is about to oversaturate us again and knives out
Speaker 1: two through nine, So please spare me with a Daniel
Speaker 1: Craig r I P and Memorium give me a fifteen
Speaker 1: minute Preus Bronson movie where bomb Ka Jansen kills a
Speaker 1: man with her legs. I don't think so, honey, And
Speaker 1: that's woman. How does it feel to spit in the
Speaker 1: face of Sir Daniel Craig? Is he now night is? Well? First?
Speaker 1: All I want to say, he could spit in my
Speaker 1: open mouth. Hio. I think that's why it's so long,
Speaker 1: is because it is like a sendop. And I think
Speaker 1: he really, he really did something new with Bond. He did,
Speaker 1: he did, he brooded, and he deserved, he deserved something.
Speaker 1: He deserves. Whatever he deserved could have been given to
Speaker 1: him in two hours and even five minutes. I'm just saying, look,
Speaker 1: two hours and forty three minutes. Literally, we were saying,
Speaker 1: if it was even a half hour shorter, I think, like,
Speaker 1: of psychically we could have gotten used to it. But
Speaker 1: it was something a two hours and twenty minutes of previews.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a commitment. I don't forgot what
Speaker 1: you guys have not going to see it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: don't you love the drama of this movie being delayed
Speaker 1: for basically a year and eight months and then you
Speaker 1: know they're still promoting it, and like, isn't that incredible?
Speaker 1: And then why why shouldn't it be two hours and
Speaker 1: forty minutes? This movie is drama, it's it's Bond, it's camp.
Speaker 1: You know, like, just just just let it be, bitch,
Speaker 1: you know what, you're ashamed of both. You're ashamed of
Speaker 1: both because I actually you're very stupid, bitch. And I
Speaker 1: read a lot of reviews for this movie in the
Speaker 1: car Greta and I really wrestled with this, and I said,
Speaker 1: interviews and see what it says, and every review was
Speaker 1: like this movie is fine, but wow Daniel Craig. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, then I'll go home and watch fucking
Speaker 1: something else. With that. That was the bad pitch where
Speaker 1: it was like everything's predictable, you know exactly what happen.
Speaker 1: This could have been and cut off by thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: But like, we love Daniel Craig and we love what
Speaker 1: Daniel Craig has done with Bonds. Like you know how
Speaker 1: many times I've tributed Daniel Craig in my life for better,
Speaker 1: for in so many words, many times I could have
Speaker 1: at tribute. Maybe I might have attribute to Daniel Craig
Speaker 1: tonight if the Google search does its thing. Oh look,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about me. I check off. Here's the
Speaker 1: thing about me. I'm a gay man that loves to
Speaker 1: tug at my penis to completion. And when I can
Speaker 1: be visually aided by a man looking like Daniel Craig,
Speaker 1: I am not above saying that that's not you know,
Speaker 1: gonna go down tonight. I'm dragging off to Daniel Craig. Tonight,
Speaker 1: I'm tributing him, and it happen in about seven or
Speaker 1: eight minutes, not two hours and forty three, because after
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna watch Dancing with the Stars, Mike Drop.
Speaker 1: There is real potential here for new slang tributing. Today,
Speaker 1: I paid tribute to Chris. I a tributed Wait, actually
Speaker 1: not today, but who did you pay tribute today? I
Speaker 1: just I just browsed on my only fans and I
Speaker 1: just like pay tribute to like you know whatever you
Speaker 1: know caught my eye in the scroll. I love do
Speaker 1: you pay tribute? Bon and Matt, both of you, because
Speaker 1: when I pay tribute to people, it's very quickly. My
Speaker 1: tribute last about thirty second seconds and then I get bored.
Speaker 1: And then I need to continue paying tribute to have
Speaker 1: a lot of tributes, and it's just it's just to
Speaker 1: get out of the way. I'm like, I haven't done
Speaker 1: in a while. Sometimes I'll see a picture and I'll
Speaker 1: just know I have to go pay tribute. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: pay tribute all the time though, like I I love
Speaker 1: to pay tribute. I pay tribute to It's isn't it crazy?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is just for for people who have
Speaker 1: penises um and ball Dickson balls. It's crazy that come
Speaker 1: comes out of there. I think that's crazy all the time.
Speaker 1: I mean, just white white goo. It's crazy. Everyone that
Speaker 1: watches it happen and like it's like high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. What's that Chloe Bailey song, Lord have Mercy?
Speaker 1: What's that? Yeah? Whenever it happens, when I see it
Speaker 1: coming out, it's like slow. But every single time with
Speaker 1: I'm like, Lord have mercy. What's the most you guys
Speaker 1: have paid tribute in a day? It's different for you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. When I was when I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: there were a couple of nights. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of nights, And I would love to explore this more
Speaker 1: on the podcast The recomp nants when I would just
Speaker 1: be so bored and not be able to fall asleep
Speaker 1: that it would be like sex in one night. I've
Speaker 1: done six or seven. It's crazy. Sundays were huge for
Speaker 1: me growing up. It was like a day when I
Speaker 1: would like, do it right when I still have to
Speaker 1: come when I wake up pretty much every single day,
Speaker 1: but like when when when you first wake up about
Speaker 1: an hour later, then you actually get out of bed,
Speaker 1: go back two or three more times during the day,
Speaker 1: and then of course before you go to bed. I
Speaker 1: also have to come before I go to bed too.
Speaker 1: I check off all the time. I think the most
Speaker 1: attributed in a day has been like four times. That's
Speaker 1: very spaced out because you know, I'm blast in the sauce,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and yourself, would you consider
Speaker 1: yourself horned up? I would, but I would generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm a little weak um. But but I think that
Speaker 1: sometimes the world can get you down and make you
Speaker 1: enough men beau, I know I think that. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think the most for me is like four times. And
Speaker 1: it was when I was in high school and I
Speaker 1: was like, it's going to be creamed corn for dinner? Mother, Mother,
Speaker 1: what are you horned up. I'm generally horned up. I
Speaker 1: will reveal that I did take my first got a
Speaker 1: rhea antibiotic shot today because a sexual partner very ethically
Speaker 1: let me know. That's nice. That's nice. It's nice when
Speaker 1: you have someone that lets you know, because I have
Speaker 1: had many, and by many, I mean three situations where
Speaker 1: the person has but not let me know. And one
Speaker 1: time someone tried to like gaslate me into thinking it
Speaker 1: was me fuck and I was like, fucking sucks, yeah,
Speaker 1: but then a part of me was like, it wasn't me.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way to know, and so like, honestly,
Speaker 1: all my interactions about it lately, which they've been helpful,
Speaker 1: have been very like, hey, did you not tested positive
Speaker 1: for this? And I'm like, thank you so much, doctor,
Speaker 1: take care of it, and usually it was accurate information.
Speaker 1: It's also I love being on and I wish this
Speaker 1: for everyone, like just to be in the place where
Speaker 1: you don't have to feel crazy about that happening if
Speaker 1: it don't. It's like if you're getting std I. I
Speaker 1: believe it's like the politically correct way to say it,
Speaker 1: because the word diseases like charge um um. But you know,
Speaker 1: like it's just better to just be like, this is
Speaker 1: literally something that happens when you are sexually active, and
Speaker 1: it's actually okay, and there's no need to feel shame.
Speaker 1: And it's truly the luck of the damn draw. It's
Speaker 1: Russian Roulette. Every time I make love Um, bone yanging
Speaker 1: ready to do I don't think so, I'm ready. Well
Speaker 1: that makes me feel excited. Everyone in America this is
Speaker 1: bone yangs. I don't think so, honey. His time starts now,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Traditional candle wicks. Why why
Speaker 1: you gotta leave me with that fucking dick mushroom at
Speaker 1: the end of every burn? And I I have to
Speaker 1: spend what twelve dollars on a wick trimmer. I gotta
Speaker 1: keep a wicked trimmer around the house. Now, fuck you
Speaker 1: for making buy an extra thing. I got sick of
Speaker 1: doing it with the scissors and then you know, washing
Speaker 1: them and wiping them off. So now I have a
Speaker 1: fucking fucked up looking scissor on my nightstand, and I
Speaker 1: bought an extra one of fairy candels I keep at work.
Speaker 1: The way for it is wooden wicks. They burn lovely
Speaker 1: and they don't leave. They don't They don't. They don't
Speaker 1: look fucked up after you use them for more than
Speaker 1: twenty seconds. Okay, let's do wood wicks. It's probably better
Speaker 1: for the environment. I'm assuming I'm just gonna go out
Speaker 1: on the limb and say that they're better for the environment.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Gretta T. Will be happy to hear other
Speaker 1: Gretta T. And uh the wicks wicks, you're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're busted. I'm on you, and that's one minute. I
Speaker 1: recently I appreciate this. I recently have had the experience
Speaker 1: where a traditional wick, I'm lighting it, the candles still
Speaker 1: full and it won't light. So these wicks are trifling,
Speaker 1: These wicks are trifling away. Well, I I do have
Speaker 1: a wick trimmer myself, and I do find that it
Speaker 1: isn't necessary evil, it's unfortunate to get to the point
Speaker 1: where you're like, because so long, was like, oh, I'll
Speaker 1: just use the scisser the scissor, but then the candle
Speaker 1: gets so deep I think you're like, I need this
Speaker 1: god Like, Actually, I have a candle it right now,
Speaker 1: and look you can see the wick is absolutely Look
Speaker 1: at the tree of life, it looks like a fucking
Speaker 1: like you know, Kingdom tree, the animal Kingdom tree. It
Speaker 1: looks like a pseudo Wido the Pokemon from a Pokemon
Speaker 1: heads out there anyway. That's a gorgeous candle. This is
Speaker 1: Dr Tiffany Moon. Oh so this so do you know
Speaker 1: about Dr Dr Tiffany Moon's candles. She's an anesthusiologist. So
Speaker 1: they're all named after different medications. This one is Hello candles.
Speaker 1: It's an active ingredient calmness indications for use. You just
Speaker 1: ran into your ex with their cute news significant other
Speaker 1: while looking completely disheveled. Your kids have said Mommy, no
Speaker 1: less than a hundred times today, just took your ninety
Speaker 1: minutes to drive home from work, and then warnings, do
Speaker 1: not use if you love traffic. Always like looking polished
Speaker 1: and perfect. Have never typed an angry email and then
Speaker 1: deleted it a few months later when you like, come on,
Speaker 1: she's just like your comedy, Dr Moon. I don't know
Speaker 1: is she writing the copy of the jokes herself. She's
Speaker 1: got a good joke room m m. And who do
Speaker 1: we know anyone? Do we know anyone who's in that?
Speaker 1: I don't know anyone who is in the Doctor Tiffany
Speaker 1: Moon candle in the Dr Tiffany Moon Candle Room please
Speaker 1: step forward. Yeah, we'll give you ninety minutes on this podcast.
Speaker 1: And and I mean, any if you, if you have
Speaker 1: a writer's assistant position open and the doctor Tiffany Moon
Speaker 1: Candle Room, I will put us and I will be
Speaker 1: the writer's assistant. I'll order launch for everybody. Yes, all
Speaker 1: of it. We're all eating Manchino forms every day. I'm
Speaker 1: sure on that budget. Alright, so now it's time bowen.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that. I think it was especially on
Speaker 1: a culture podcast. Thank you you guys. This is this
Speaker 1: is the thing I now have. Of course, like a
Speaker 1: bunch of ones that I want to do, but I
Speaker 1: just think I need to do the one that you need.
Speaker 1: You got to follow your heart. It cannot guard you wrong.
Speaker 1: It's it's a few things. I mean, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go for it. You should just pop
Speaker 1: off and whatever it is. If you want to redefine
Speaker 1: the art form right now, just talk fast. This is
Speaker 1: greta Titleman's I don't think so, honey. Her time starts now.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Being in the bathroom and
Speaker 1: having any other pump in there be anything but fucking soap. Okay,
Speaker 1: don't give me hand lotion. Don't give me purel He
Speaker 1: kisses me right on off. When I moisten my hands
Speaker 1: and I put my hand into that little pumper, and
Speaker 1: what is it? Purell? Bitch? It needs to be so also,
Speaker 1: don't give me hand lotion. Who is the psychopath going
Speaker 1: into the bathroom today? Not only washed thoroughly dry and
Speaker 1: then pump the hand motion? No one, honey, okay. And
Speaker 1: we don't want those people around because they're cuckoo and
Speaker 1: they scare me. And here's this thing. If you're putting
Speaker 1: the two bottles next to each other, I don't care
Speaker 1: if it is Leilabo herself smelling of gorgeous burg moot.
Speaker 1: I do not need me getting confused, because that's what
Speaker 1: I feel like a dick, because then I become wasteful,
Speaker 1: because then what do I do? Hands are wet but
Speaker 1: with a lotion accidentally, oh my god, lotion. Now need
Speaker 1: to wipe lotion off and re fucking stuff business. And
Speaker 1: what did I do? I just wasted gorgeous, gorgeous lotion.
Speaker 1: So here's what I mean to say in your bathroom
Speaker 1: soap only, I don't think so, honey, anything but soap.
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. It's incredible that there's nothing worse
Speaker 1: than going to a pump. It's slotion. You go fuck,
Speaker 1: and then you gotta clean it off with either a
Speaker 1: paper towel or water, and then you still feel oily.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Excuse me, why also are we being so confused?
Speaker 1: I think it's fine to have sanitizer and hand lotion
Speaker 1: set bridge from the away. But when you when you
Speaker 1: put when you put the hand lotion in the spot
Speaker 1: where intuitively the soap is, then you're gonna waste a
Speaker 1: lot of lotion. Also, if you want to give me
Speaker 1: purell less, you put it at the door, the door,
Speaker 1: at the door, at the door, get the hand lotion
Speaker 1: away from the sink, from the running water. We don't
Speaker 1: want to use that. No, no, And it's just it's confusing,
Speaker 1: and it's cruel because then I'd become wasteful. And then
Speaker 1: think about this. If you didn't want to waste the lotion,
Speaker 1: maybe you put the lotion, you realize it's lotion, do
Speaker 1: that and then you leave and don't wash your hands.
Speaker 1: I bet a lot of people make that decision. And absolutely,
Speaker 1: do you want to know something that fucked up. That
Speaker 1: happened to me today. And this happens in different settings,
Speaker 1: but for me it was, um, I went to this
Speaker 1: like gym. I want to go work out in this place,
Speaker 1: and then they have like small showers, it's like an
Speaker 1: independent training spot. And then I went to the showers
Speaker 1: to read pumps no labels. Obviously, the opaque one, I
Speaker 1: was like, that's conditioner. But then the two clear gel ones.
Speaker 1: I was like, am I gonna have to put these
Speaker 1: in my hand and smell to see what which one
Speaker 1: shampoo and which one's body body washed? And then I think, wait,
Speaker 1: does my nose know the difference between can you decipher? No?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I feel like a fucking idiot now,
Speaker 1: And I might slather shampoo on my body and body
Speaker 1: washing my hair, and I'll feel even crazier. And then
Speaker 1: you'll look crazy too, because body wash they can supposed
Speaker 1: to go in the hair. It's just not and they
Speaker 1: can just people can tell. Literally. People are also very cruel, cruel, yes,
Speaker 1: and they know that when you leave the gym, they're
Speaker 1: going to say, there's that fucking flop whose nose couldn't
Speaker 1: decipher between body wash and shampoo? Yes, And then I think,
Speaker 1: is this who I am? I don't know who I am,
Speaker 1: but all I know about myself is that I confuse
Speaker 1: body washing shampoo. And you can't see the forest through
Speaker 1: the trees and I can't. And you know what's also
Speaker 1: we've also talked about on this podcast, and it's actually
Speaker 1: you've been I don't think so, honey. I think more
Speaker 1: than once is the three in one body washed shampoo,
Speaker 1: conditioner get lost. I want to know that this product
Speaker 1: can stand alone as shampoo, as conditioner, as body washed.
Speaker 1: Sell it in the dorms, because that's the only people
Speaker 1: who are buying them is the college. Don't even sell
Speaker 1: it in the dorms. Sell it at fucking ri I
Speaker 1: for when you're going camping and when you're literally showering
Speaker 1: with a little bottle of water. If I send my
Speaker 1: child to college and they feel that they need to
Speaker 1: use a three in one, I will have personally done
Speaker 1: a bad job as a parent. You're right, I will
Speaker 1: treat it. I will have taught them badly. If you
Speaker 1: on a presidential debate, people would have applauded if the
Speaker 1: question was about like environmental issues, and you literally gave
Speaker 1: that exact Tyrande that you just did. It would have
Speaker 1: ended like and then afterwards Joy Reid would have said,
Speaker 1: I thought graditied, that was good tonight, and I thought
Speaker 1: she really got her point Across Chris Hayes would be like,
Speaker 1: what Greta did was really stay on message. And then
Speaker 1: Chris Christie, even Chris Christie would be like, if I'm
Speaker 1: if I'm watching her at home, I'm sending her thirty dollars,
Speaker 1: you should run, you should run. I would do it
Speaker 1: just for the outfits. Oh you think you put like
Speaker 1: a cute debate look together where yeah, very snatched debate look.
Speaker 1: And then I do like, you know, nostalgic like fashion
Speaker 1: hat tips to like like like a pill box hats
Speaker 1: like a fascinator. And then when about hair character in
Speaker 1: the debate, we need that. I would also do hat
Speaker 1: tips to like Abraham Lincoln maybe and we're like sort
Speaker 1: of slout cheese. Oh my god, if you did like
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln look to a presidential debreech if a female,
Speaker 1: If if there's a female or any nominee of any
Speaker 1: gender who just dresses up like a B. Lincot, it
Speaker 1: makes it like glam You're you're winning, You're winning it
Speaker 1: could be like a Tom Brown kind of creation. God,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? And Tom would just nail it.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom would nail it. He just knows. He's
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Well listen, I think this has been
Speaker 1: an episode that has gone deep. It's also been um,
Speaker 1: It's touched on the deep elements of culture, the deep
Speaker 1: elements of the human history, personal history. The only family
Speaker 1: it's family episode could give. And also it was the
Speaker 1: frivolous it was. It was both both the deep exploration
Speaker 1: and also the creature comforts, you know, And that's why
Speaker 1: this podcast has received critically well. The podcast has received
Speaker 1: critical acclaim and I think a Grammy yeah, the podcast
Speaker 1: has now become a claim Yeah yeah, um, Greta. We
Speaker 1: absolutely love having you. We're very excited to produce step Mom.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, do you want to you want to tease?
Speaker 1: Do you want to tease anything about it before before
Speaker 1: we absolutely go Well. I think look, step Mom is
Speaker 1: someone who's very near and dear to my heart. And
Speaker 1: you know, if you've always wondered what would it be
Speaker 1: like to have a woman in my life tell me
Speaker 1: that I smell like a rotten cabbage cunt um, what
Speaker 1: would it be like to have a woman degrade me
Speaker 1: and tell me that I was smelling like pork brine.
Speaker 1: You're going to love her if you want to kind
Speaker 1: of just that short little episodes just like thirty minutes.
Speaker 1: I've heard every episode of it. I've heard all four
Speaker 1: episodes that's thirty minutes or left. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I do think she gives very good advice. You know,
Speaker 1: if you just want to be living life, spending coin
Speaker 1: that's not yours, it's much easier to do, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know, But I don't know because she and
Speaker 1: I are very different lines, different entities, different people. But
Speaker 1: she's she's very fun. That's that's dropping in two in
Speaker 1: two we end every episode with the song Gretta, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for coming, God, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for having me. It's really an honor. The last time
Speaker 1: this podcast was like I think like five years ago
Speaker 1: so and we like really did not know each other
Speaker 1: as well as we do now, obviously, but like we
Speaker 1: really have grown just exponentially closer. Well might say the
Speaker 1: seed was planted and now the roots have taken hold,
Speaker 1: have taken hold. Familia's Familia. We end every episode with
Speaker 1: the song it feels like a big night guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna breakfast and strangers. Yeah, we're happy, second us only
Speaker 1: having the Bastia. It's tonight, tonight, me forget about the
Speaker 1: heartbreaks this time. To hear more of that, we have
Speaker 1: to wait until November Night Skame to ethically stream a
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