WEBVTT - Thor: Love and Thunder + Ms. Marvel Eps 4 & 5 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:04.080 Folks, get your popcorn buttered, get your fountain drink ready, 0:00:05.360 --> 0:00:12.480 because there's gonna be some spoilers from the Thor Love 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.240 and Thunder movie out in theaters now. If you have 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:20.479 not seen Thor Love and Thunder, for God's sakes, do 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.760 not listen to this podcast this section in which we 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:26.920 talk about that movie until you have seen the movie. 0:00:26.960 --> 0:00:29.680 Please do that. Go watch the movie. Lots of spoilers 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:32.440 in here for Thor Love and Thunder and Miss Marvel 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:35.120 episodes four and five, so please see that stuff before 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:54.920 you've listened here. Hello, my name is Jasoncepcion, and welcome 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:57.480 to X ray Vision The Crooked Podcast, where we dive 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:02.360 deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:07.000 In today's episode, on the previously on news segment, we're 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:12.760 be talking about the Paper Girls trailer, the adaptation of 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:18.920 the beloved Brian Cavaon Cliff Chang comic book from Image Comics. 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:23.240 We're gonna talk about some Stranger Things spin off news 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.199 from the Duffer Brothers, and then we're gonna be catching 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:30.000 up on Miss Marvel episodes four and five. In the airlock, 0:01:30.040 --> 0:01:32.920 we're diving all the way deep into Thor Love and thunder, 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:34.399 and of course, if you want to jump around, check 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.880 out the timestamps in the show notes to find all 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:38.600 the things that we talk about and enjoining me. Now 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:45.399 we're back baby after a week layoff, filling her mind 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:52.360 library with ever more information, ever more wisdom to give 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:58.000 to the people. Is the number one comics encyclopedia, now 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:03.200 overflowing with things to tell you. It's a great Rosie, diight, Rosie, 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:04.480 how are you. I'm good. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.520 I was happy to be back. We needed the one 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:07.360 week break. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.119 But now we needed anything good. 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.960 I actually I did too much work, sadly, but I 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.600 also did do I did go away for like two days, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:18.720 so that was nice. 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:22.240 Nice. Yeah, I uh, I went to the desert and. 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:24.560 Those are where I went, just after you. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.840 I gotta tell you. It was like one hundred and 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.760 thirteen degrees every day, but it was also very very relaxing, 0:02:33.800 --> 0:02:35.200 and I enjoyed it. Yeah. 0:02:35.200 --> 0:02:37.400 Whenever I whenever I go to the desert, I feel 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.240 like Superman. I'm like I am being powered up by 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:44.080 the yellow sun. Like the desert. There's something about it 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:47.079 where I'm just like this heat is nourishing me. I'm 0:02:47.080 --> 0:02:50.480 probably getting like shriveled and old, but I feel empowered. 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:51.320 I love the desert. 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:55.959 Thank you Desert, I too love it, folks. Let's get 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:57.760 into the news. 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:00.600 Paper Girl trailer. 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:05.120 The trailer for Amazon Primes paper Girls dropped this week again, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.520 an abdaptation from the comic series of the same name 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:12.320 by Brian Cavon illustration art by Cliff Chang. It is 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:19.359 a show about four paper delivery girls like twelve or 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:23.760 thirteen year olds in nineteen eighty eight, who are pulled 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.040 into a time traveling adventure where they encounter future versions 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:33.240 of themselves. It's time copying in the way that their 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:37.520 time traveling is kind of against the law, and it's 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.440 a great if you want to dive into a completely 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:45.480 original comics world. Paper Girls on Image Comics is their 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:49.600 few The show comes out on July twenty ninth. I 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:54.680 was I thought the trailer looked fantastic. The color scheme, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.920 it reminds me so much of the comic. It seems 0:03:59.920 --> 0:04:03.360 like they nailed the casting. Uh, and I'm really excited 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.960 about it. What were your thoughts? 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.800 Yeah, I'm I'm so impressed by everything to do with 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.920 this show, Like from the moment that they first revealed 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:15.440 the cast to this trailer. They just Amazon. Something we 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.240 can say about whoever's making these shows at Amazon. They 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:23.080 know when to totally commit to the comics like this, 0:04:23.279 --> 0:04:26.160 and they know when to distance themselves like the boys, 0:04:26.160 --> 0:04:28.599 and we find of said this and this is like 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:35.159 so incredible to see Cliff's visual language and landscape board 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.880 to the screen, especially in the colors, because Paper Girl 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:43.040 uses coloring in a very specific way. Their colors by 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:45.920 Matt Wilson are just astonishing in that book, and they're 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:50.160 used in a very narrative, important way. And it's just 0:04:50.240 --> 0:04:52.719 also like one of the coolest looking books. I remember 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.640 working in a comic shop when it was coming out, 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:57.560 and you just wanted to get those Neon issues every time, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.560 like the beautiful covers. And yeah, this is one where 0:05:00.600 --> 0:05:04.000 I would say, read it now, or if the trailer 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:07.120 looks really enticing to you, wait and then you can 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:11.400 be surprised when you watch the show. I also something 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:13.039 that I think is really cool about this, when we 0:05:13.080 --> 0:05:16.799 talk about committing to the comics, something that Amazon pr 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:19.799 is doing here which is really incredible. Every single time 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.480 they write about Paper Girls, they shout out Brian Cavaughan, 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:26.240 and they shout out Cliff Chang and they are adding 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.040 them and they are saying, these are the people who 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.359 made this, these are the people, this is the reason 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:32.840 this exists. So I think this could be a real 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:39.320 step forward when it comes to how closely connected the 0:05:39.360 --> 0:05:42.760 creators are to the show. Also, images create our own 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.599 creat so this is about to say this is their brand. 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:51.359 Is Brian Cavon. It's so much image comics exactly. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:54.360 So I'm really excited. I think it looks great. I'm 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:58.080 very stoked to see that on the Internet. Like there 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.440 was a lot of people who were like, oh, this 0:06:00.520 --> 0:06:04.679 looks like Stranger Things, but the Paper Girl's fandom has been. 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:10.120 There being like, well, actually and correctly. So a great 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:15.640 point to bring up because it's it's interesting. 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.720 We just I just got done with Stranger Things season four. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:24.240 I think uh many of us have. Uh. It's a 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.560 show set in the eighties with lots of eighties references 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:33.080 that clearly UH is inspired by you know, the work 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:38.400 of Steven Spielberg and other kind of why A movies 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:44.880 of the era, kids on bikes having an adventure and 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:49.000 for both And so I was wondering, well, watching the 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.920 trailer and then going back and flipping through the first 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:56.279 couple of issues of Paper Girls on image. I wonder 0:06:56.320 --> 0:07:00.800 how much the success of Stranger Things affected voices that 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:04.680 they made in the show, because you know, I mean 0:07:04.680 --> 0:07:07.839 the opening of the comic, there's like a reference to 0:07:07.920 --> 0:07:11.520 the Challenger explosion. There's all these pop culture need these references. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.080 There's a kid dressed as Freddy Krueger, like you know, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:19.720 in the opening, in the opening pages, and all of 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:26.520 that would feel I think, pretty Stranger Things into those 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:29.480 who are not initiated to the comics or weren't reading 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:31.640 the comics at the time. So I wonder, I really 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:36.080 wonder how much the showrunners and the production team either 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.360 leaned into the eighties references the stuff that's on the page, 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:45.920 or leaned away from those choices, not wanting to, you know, 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.960 ride on a wave that has been created by another show. 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.080 I think it's really interesting to think about because I 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.480 think that there's probably no way that Paper Girls gets 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.400 made into a TV show at all without Stranger Things, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.600 or less not this speedily. So thank you Stranger Things, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.720 because I wanted a Paper Girls show, probably more than 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:08.360 most other comic book shows. But Paper Girls did come out, 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:10.640 you know, almost a year before the first issue of 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.760 Paper Girls came out almost a year before Stranger Things. 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:19.600 My gut says, you cannot. The point of Paper Girls 0:08:19.760 --> 0:08:22.640 as well as Strange Things is that to evoke that nostalgia. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.320 The question is do they do it in the Stranger 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.960 Things way, which is like, look at this thing that 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:29.760 is from that era, or do they do it in 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.480 tone and ship. I would love to see them evoke 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.439 different parts of the eighties that we don't necessarily get 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.720 to see in the same way, So I'll be really 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.200 I think that's one of the most interesting things to 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.080 look for as we go into the show, is like 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:49.640 what do they do to separate themselves from Stranger Things, 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.120 And not in a negative way, just because this is 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:56.280 a unique, different kind of story. So I'm very interested. 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.200 Yeah, not in a negative way at all, but just 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:04.839 understanding like how storytellers, you know, like to work is 0:09:05.520 --> 0:09:08.440 you always want to do something that is your own, 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.840 even if you're working in the same time period, the 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:17.120 same milieu that you know, there's certain references to historical 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.400 events from nineteen eighty eight, there are not you know, 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.720 it's going to be unavoidable, and of course, like Stranger 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.120 Things is in eighty six, so there is a little 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.840 bit of air gap in terms of years. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:33.719 Oh yeah, point. But let's Stranger Things for the late A. 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:36.440 You know, I'd imagine if I was if I was 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:38.439 working on this, I'd be like, I don't know, this 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:40.760 is like fun, but like Stranger Things did this, so 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.000 I don't know. I would just be fascinated to know, 0:09:43.080 --> 0:09:48.319 like what the conversation was speaking of Stranger Things. Uh. 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:53.240 Matt and Ross Duffer, the Duffer Brothers, creators of these 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:57.400 Stranger Things television program on the Netflix streaming platform, have 0:09:57.480 --> 0:10:03.319 announced per Deadline that they have launched their own company, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.000 upside Down Pictures, and they are working on producing as 0:10:07.000 --> 0:10:10.240 Stranger Things spinoff. Per Deadline, following the record breaking release 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:12.640 of the two final episodes of Stranger Things Season four, 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:15.400 creators Matt and Rosstuffer have formed upside Down Pictures and 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:20.880 recommitted to Netflix with several new projects. Those include a 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:24.960 live action series adaptation of Death Note, the famed Japanese 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:29.760 manga and anime written by Tuscumi Oba and with illustrations 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.360 by Taki shi Obada. An original series from creators Jeffrey 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:38.880 Addis and Will Matthews. Dark Crystal Resistance could come out 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:42.040 of upside Down Pictures, a series adaptation of Stephen king 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:47.200 At Peter Straub's nineteen eighty four novel The Taosman, which 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:51.800 speaking as a king head excited for that one. A 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:54.200 new stage play set within the world in Mythology of 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:58.080 Stranger Things, produced by UK based stage producer Sonya Friedman, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:02.319 and the aforementioned live act Stranger Things spin off based 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:05.040 on an original idea by the Duff Brothers, with upside 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:09.319 Down and twenty one Laps producing. Uh, this just makes 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:16.320 a lot of sense. You know, this is by I 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:19.880 think any measure, although with Netflix it's hard to understand 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:25.800 what measure what is right by the bye, just anecdotally 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.040 knowing all the people who are talking about this show 0:11:28.080 --> 0:11:31.160 and who have watched it, and understanding what Netflix the hit, 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.480 what it means as a hit to Netflix, it just 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.640 makes sense to do this. And Uh, I'm excited. Listen, 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.599 give let's give Steve, Let's. 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.560 Give Stephen Dustin spin off. 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.360 Bring step and Dustin spin off. Is that not what 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:45.880 we want? 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:46.880 That's not the people. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.320 I was always going to say a spoiler, I'll save 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:51.640 that from when we actually don't about Stranger Things. 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:55.520 Yes, that's what the people want. I am intrigued by this. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.760 I think that was a cool like talisman easter egg 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:01.920 as well in the volume of The Stranger Things New season, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.760 So that's kind of a fun lead in kind of 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.960 doing that Mike Flannagan world within the world sort of thing. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:14.560 I I'm wary of that first, the first announcement the 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:20.160 Death Note adaptation Netflix before, but let's you know what goes. 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.320 I'm open to it. There's been plenty of brilliant already 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.160 Death Note adaptations in Japan, so it's not going to 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.560 take those away, and maybe it'll add something really cool 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:35.640 or new. I love anything like why a kid storytelling 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.560 that's like and we'll talk about that more when we 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.520 talk about Thoor like that. I'm a sucker for that. 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.080 So the notion that we could see a new core 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.199 version of that, I'm open to it. I'm open to it. 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:47.520 I love Dark Crystal Age of Resistance. That was like 0:12:47.520 --> 0:12:49.240 one of my favorite TV shows in the last few 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:54.680 years because it's, Oh my god, it is like so good. 0:12:55.960 --> 0:12:58.520 When you watch it, you almost cannot believe it's real. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:03.440 It is. Oh, it's so on. You're gonna love it 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.160 so much. I know everything you love and you're just 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:06.040 gonna love it. 0:13:06.040 --> 0:13:09.679 It is so the original Dark Crystal movie. 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:12.600 It's like, imagine that, but it's a prestige TV show 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.840 with like a never ending budget and everything is there's 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:19.920 obviously incredible CG but there's a lot of practical puppet tree. 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:22.640 So it is just like that's my ultimate I wish 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.720 they would renew it show that got canceled. So the 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:29.640 idea that that team teaming up with the Stranger Things team, 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:32.000 who was obviously so influenced by that error of filmmaking, 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:35.719 I think that's really exciting, and we will be. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.320 Talking about Stranger Things more on an upcoming episode. I 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:44.240 gotta say, just as a quick knee jerk reaction, this 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.160 was my favorite season of Stranger Things for Yeah, primarily 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:55.480 because we've were finally like fleshing out the lore of 0:13:55.520 --> 0:13:58.200 the world and you know, we're both big like world 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:02.199 building rules people and just understanding more about the upside down, 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:06.280 how the mind flawer works, Vecna's role in all of 0:14:06.320 --> 0:14:09.320 this stuff. That was really fun to learn about all 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:09.800 that stuff. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:12.240 Yeah, it also brings in two of my favorite things, 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.400 which is like I absolutely love horror storytelling and like 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:19.520 fantasy horror, and that is brought in in such an 0:14:19.560 --> 0:14:23.600 expansive and unexpected way here. And also I thought the 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:27.800 satanic panic aspect of the show and the storytelling, that 0:14:27.960 --> 0:14:29.800 is something that really speaks to me, that notion of 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.000 like being othered. And I thought that Joseph Quinn as 0:14:33.120 --> 0:14:35.160 Eddie is just like, that's got to be one of 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.080 my favorite characters from a TV show in ever, and 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:42.600 I saw so much love there for him, so like, I, yeah, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.920 it's this feels again. It's been a little while since 0:14:45.960 --> 0:14:47.480 we've had one of those moments where you feel like 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.960 everybody's talking about it. Yeah, you know, so it's it's 0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.600 kind of been wild since we've had Yeah, it's been 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.440 fun to see that everyone getting excited about it for 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.840 the good reasons, so that it's all it's all because 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.800 people are passionate. So it's been exciting to be a 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:02.560 part of that again. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:09.160 Miss Marvel episodes four and five the Lightning recap of both. 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.880 Let's start with episode four, titled Seeing Red and basically 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.480 here's what you need to know. Kamala goes to Karachi. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:22.320 She meets up with her nanny and some cousins. She 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:25.840 meets Kareem, a member of the Red Daggers and learns 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:29.040 about the Red Daggers, this group that has been working 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:32.440 behind the scenes over there. She goes to Kamala goes 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.240 to Red Dagger headquarters where she meets the leaders of 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:40.000 the group. We learn more about the realm of the 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:47.720 Clandestines come from, and then fucking the Department of Damage 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.080 Control absolutely fumbles the fucking. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:52.640 Bag once again once again. 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:56.960 Once it's like, you can just you can just take 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.640 them to their cells. You don't have to be assholes 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:03.600 about it anyway. The Department of Damage Control are escorting 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:07.520 Najama and her group to their cells, but they have 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.720 to be really racist about it, and this leads to 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:16.440 a big fight and Najima and the Clandestines escape. Walid 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:25.040 is killed in a fight back in Karachi, and we 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.240 see a portal open and Kamala goes through and arrives 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.080 That faithful night back in nineteen forty seven, when Sana 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.920 followed a trail of stars to her father and Aisha disappeared. 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.240 Onto episode five, we open on newsreel footage from August 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:41.920 nineteen forty seven, the eve of India's independence and the 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.560 creation of the state of Pakistan. We see India's leader 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:49.560 Nehru and Pakistan's leader and founding figure Muhammad Ali Jina 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:52.120 making speeches, and then we see crowds of people on 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.920 the move as these two states are created, and Hindus 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:59.160 who are living in what will soon become Pakistan are 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:05.680 leaving for India and Muslims in India leaving for Pakistan. 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:14.760 Of course, this process, historical process which was I believe 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.399 the largest mass migration of people in history, in the 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:20.359 history of the world, talking millions of people in the 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:25.880 move was accompanied by a lot of violence, a lot 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:30.680 of destruction, and a lot of heartache for people who 0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.760 for generations had been living in a place, living in 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:37.320 the place that their family had lived in for generations, 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.120 all of a sudden forced to uproot themselves and move. 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.240 That's a historical context. We arrive in nineteen forty two 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.520 flashback from this newsreel footage. British troops are pursuing Kamala's 0:17:47.520 --> 0:17:53.120 great grandmother, Aisha through the forest. She suddenly turns and 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:57.600 does something which takes down the soldier. Later, we see 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.679 an activist handing out handbills and talking to a crowd 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:07.040 about the independence movement. Agitating this crowd of eager locals 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.480 about why they should be an independent nation and how 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:15.520 they can do that with the least amount of chaos 0:18:15.600 --> 0:18:18.359 and rioting possible. And then all of a sudden, British 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:21.560 shoops arrive, and of course they've got Indian auxiliaries also, 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.880 and they don't want people talking about this, so they 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:29.840 disperse the crowd using force. Aisha later is wearing the 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.520 bangal and we see her wearing the bangle. She's sleeping 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:36.840 in a field. Turns out that's this man's field. His 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:41.639 name is Hassan, and he wakes her up and he's like, hey, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.320 you know, if you want to, my house is right 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.520 over here, if you want to come in and get 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:47.639 something to eat and rest in there. That night, she 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:51.920 comes in and very very very reluctantly eats dinner, which 0:18:53.320 --> 0:18:55.640 you don't have to tell me twise, if you're offering food, 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:01.200 I'm eating. Aisha doesn't talk much, and it's we understand why, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:03.640 of course, but Hassan does not. It's clear that she's 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.920 not from around here. It's also clear that she's not British, 0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:14.680 So who is she? What's her deal? Aisha's very closed 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:20.720 lipped about this, but eventually she reveals that she likes 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.320 Hassan grows roses and she thinks are great. That gets 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:28.400 them talking. Now they introduce themselves and she is Aisha. 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.040 We know he is Hassan. We just learned that. And folks, 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:33.920 you can tell right away by the way they're looking 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:36.560 at each other they're gonna make babies. And it happens. 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:41.440 In the very next scene. We fast forward to Aisha 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:46.200 has got Hassan's roses in her hair. They are being 0:19:46.359 --> 0:19:48.840 very loving to each other. A camera bound pans down 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.199 and guess what it's baby on board time That is 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:57.240 within that belly is Sna Kamala's grandmother. The growing family 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.280 is at peace, and we fast forward years later see 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:05.080 snap playing with Aisha's Bengal as a BBC radio reports 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.879 on the violence that is gripping the country. This is 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.560 post independence now and the partition is taking place or 0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:16.359 around the time of independence. As this mass migration is 0:20:16.400 --> 0:20:21.320 taking place, Hassan is upset. He is Muslim. He lives 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:26.479 in what will become India. Already, people in the village 0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:28.520 that he and his family have lived in for many 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.320 years are being shunned by certain members of the community. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:34.880 Although there is also a lot of generosity within that community, 0:20:36.240 --> 0:20:39.679 and he is angry because he's really grappling with the 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.919 very real possibility that he's going to have to flee 0:20:43.760 --> 0:20:46.600 the home that has been his home for generations. A 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:50.000 villager comes to offer them some food, and he rejects it. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:55.720 He's angry about it. That night, Aisha meets Nadama out 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:57.800 in the field and we learned that Asha's been hiding 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:02.400 from her fellow clandestine's. Najama has been searching for Aetia 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:06.320 for years, it seems like, and her plan is the 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.040 same as it is present day. She wants to use 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:11.480 the bangle to return everybody home. They want to go 0:21:11.520 --> 0:21:15.040 back to their the dimension they've been exiled from. I 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.360 was just like, oh the bangle, Yeah, I hit it 0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.800 because you know, there's all the there's all this, you know, 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:24.639 there's all this movement of people's riots going on, a 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:27.960 lot of chaos because of the independence movement, and you know, 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.280 I got to look for it. And I'll tell you what, 0:21:30.320 --> 0:21:32.800 I'll text you when I find it. I'll look for it, okay, 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.720 and I'll let you know. And then Najamas like you 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:41.720 have until the end of day tomorrow, and that's when 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.119 you better have it. I usually goes back this on 0:21:45.320 --> 0:21:47.520 and urges him to flee. It's time to go. We 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:49.520 got to go. The riots are getting closer. I know 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.640 this farmhouse has been in your family and you don't 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:57.240 want to leave it and it's really painful. But you've 0:21:57.280 --> 0:22:02.600 got a growing family. Now we have to do it. 0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.520 They hit the road. I should gives son on the 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:07.600 Bengal for protection. The family heads off for the last 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:12.120 train out of town. On the road, Hassan, who uses 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:15.480 a cane he's got an injured leg, is struggling. He 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.399 asks who Ai Shud was talking to out in the 0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.800 field the other night, and Aisha is like, okay, let 0:22:20.800 --> 0:22:23.480 me show you some shows us on the Bengal gives 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:25.720 us a very short demo of what it can do, 0:22:25.760 --> 0:22:28.840 which is basically like a little telescoping feature and it lights. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.680 Up and it's very fancy. 0:22:33.000 --> 0:22:36.000 We learned through this process in this scene that Hassan, 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:41.560 like many guys, is not a big He has a 0:22:41.560 --> 0:22:44.359 lot to say about politics and stuff, but in terms 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:50.679 of like deep questions with a partner, has clearly not 0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:54.840 asked a lot of questions. This beautiful, gorgeous, intelligent woman 0:22:54.960 --> 0:23:00.720 showed up in his field one day with no past, 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:06.240 not talking about where she's from or anything. And it's 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.359 not until now apparently like one or two years later, 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:14.520 because Sanna is like a toddler, right that he now 0:23:14.640 --> 0:23:18.320 begins to ask questions about, like real questions about any 0:23:18.520 --> 0:23:22.840 So this bangel, what's going on with this? I wanted 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.280 it's I wanted to talk about something since it was 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:27.359 just the fourth of July. 0:23:27.760 --> 0:23:30.200 As you know, Rosie, I do know I was. 0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:34.359 As a as a as a member of our of 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:40.200 our extended family, our English cousin, Rosie, I've been thinking 0:23:40.200 --> 0:23:42.560 a lot about about the way. You know. It's like 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:46.960 you often hear when people critique colonialism. You'll often hear 0:23:47.520 --> 0:23:51.440 like defenders of colonialism say kind of shritly, like, hey, 0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:55.879 sure it wasn't ideal all the time, but look like 0:23:56.359 --> 0:24:00.720 India has the post office, they have this away system, 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:05.920 they have these beautiful harbors, they have this parliamentary system 0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:08.720 of government, they have like all these this civil service 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:10.639 and all this stuff that's like very fleshed out. And 0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:16.760 that's because of the legacy that English rule left there. 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:19.159 And while it wasn't always great, look look at the 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:23.639 positives that left behind, which like all that stuff is 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.240 there because the English were there. That's true. At the 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:33.160 same time, it's like, uh, you know, the economics of colonialism, 0:24:33.200 --> 0:24:36.560 it's it's different for many cases. And I'm by no 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:38.879 means an expert, but i will say, like the basics 0:24:39.280 --> 0:24:43.639 were the English and the English were not. You know, 0:24:43.640 --> 0:24:46.240 the Dutch were there, the Portuguese were there, France was 0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:52.119