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Speaker 1: What do you have for us today? Well, stand by

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Speaker 1: for this guy because I'm incredibly gung ho for him.

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Speaker 1: And we have the legendary Mr al Burn. How you

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Speaker 1: doing there, sir? Thank you, Brian legendary. Come on, oh,

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Speaker 1: everybody he brings on here als legendary. And I gotta

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Speaker 1: young man. Thank you for your service. First off, Al Yeah,

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Speaker 1: bring this man. Uh. You know, al Burn, son of

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Speaker 1: They can't because they live in Kansas or they live

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Speaker 1: think thank you people. Brian, I love you because these

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Speaker 1: not only is it a segment, but now it's a

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Speaker 1: show today. Al you know so many things that you

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Speaker 1: say you're here for us to do here and saying

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Speaker 1: that you've done. I believe that we're going in the

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Speaker 1: right direction, right, I mean I believe that. Do you

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Speaker 1: believe we're going in the right direction? Out? And what

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Speaker 1: kind of ask push and push do we need to

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Speaker 1: get to the promised Land? In your opinion? Yes, we

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Speaker 1: are going in the right direction. It's incremental at best,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's uh. Once once a portion of this

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Speaker 1: debate has moved forward, it's never gone backwards, so I

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Speaker 1: think that's that's hopeful. Yeah, I mean I really started

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Speaker 1: doing this like, uh, you know, in public about five

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Speaker 1: So back then, um, about of the population of the

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Speaker 1: United States States thought I was crazy and five percent

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Speaker 1: thought I had something going. Now, all those years later,

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Speaker 1: those numbers are reversed. Ninety five then think that I

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Speaker 1: got something going in five percent is still stupid. I'm

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Speaker 1: really not worried about the five or ten percent that

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Speaker 1: I'm catching on, except the ones that are in some

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Speaker 1: sort of administrative power. I was. I was happy to

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Speaker 1: see just a couple of day ago, wasn't the two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen Farm Bill was validated by the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court of the United States. That you know that that's

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Speaker 1: that's a good Um. The I would remind the audience

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Speaker 1: that there is I have another problem that I'd like

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Speaker 1: to just put forward. You will hear the uninformed inform

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Speaker 1: you that there is no real research about cannabis. Here

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Speaker 1: I go again, but you know, look me up. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Cannabis is likely the most studied plant on the face

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Speaker 1: of the earth. It was declared an herb in by

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Speaker 1: the American Herbal Association, who then produced a monologue on

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Speaker 1: the plant a second in volume only into gallup uh

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Speaker 1: in its uh positive capacity. Um, so it's a plant.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the other thing you're you'll hear it's a drug,

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Speaker 1: it's an agent. No, it's not. It's a plant. And

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Speaker 1: and by serendipity, the compounds in that plant mirror absolutely

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Speaker 1: mirror the compounds and your body and mind, and the

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Speaker 1: body of your dog, and the whales and the American hicle.

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Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. The Only thing that

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Speaker 1: endocannapnoid system is not effective in on the planet Earth

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Speaker 1: is insects, and who gives a shit about them anyway.

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Speaker 1: But everything else, everything else, has an endocannabinuant system that

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Speaker 1: has the exact same compounds as that plan called annabis.

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Speaker 1: So then we get to the research. It's on Earth.

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Speaker 1: We got that. Now, what about the research, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: the most research. How do you know I did it

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Speaker 1: because way back when patients out of time thinking two thousand,

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Speaker 1: at eighteen thousand and ten, we created a hundred and

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Speaker 1: ten thousand pages of cannabis pere research research. Here's the

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Speaker 1: key from around the world. Now, when you hear these

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Speaker 1: these people speak about there's no cannabis research. What they're

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Speaker 1: talking about is US research. And by the way, there's

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Speaker 1: a hell of a lot of that too. But when

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Speaker 1: you've com guarded with the rest of the world, where

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Speaker 1: at least twenty seven countries use cannabis as part of

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Speaker 1: their national pharmacopeia, right, twenty seven countries use cannabis is

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Speaker 1: a medas Canada, Canada's veterans Cannada, You're like, Canadians is

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Speaker 1: huge Vetrians. If they're going to use cannabis, the the

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Speaker 1: government of Canabis grows it farm what their home X

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Speaker 1: are ups? Are you kidding me? How did I never

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Speaker 1: know this? Our veterans are getting treated like ship up

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Speaker 1: for the Canadian veterans. Yeah, now, isn't it? Essentially it's

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Speaker 1: like you bigram they give a gram to a veteran. Correct? Yes,

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Speaker 1: how am I? I just got an email from Canada

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Speaker 1: to day damn it day. But we need to do

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Speaker 1: some changes. This is crazy free healthcare in this let's

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Speaker 1: just let's just talk about the horror of I spent

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Speaker 1: a year in viet arm as a Navy advisor. I'm

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Speaker 1: proud I was there. I never want to do that

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Speaker 1: ship again now. Uh, And in present combat in Israel

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Speaker 1: and Czechoslovakia, and they might be wanted two more. If

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Speaker 1: if a soldier, sailor, et cetera, is injured on the battlefield,

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Speaker 1: the corman the meta has in his pack he orall

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Speaker 1: new coastal spread left the soldier's mouth sprays this stuff

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Speaker 1: in his mouth, and it is a It is a

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Speaker 1: way to reduce the inflammation of a brain injury, and

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Speaker 1: a brain injury becomes serious because of the inflammation. Right

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Speaker 1: on the battlefield, we have Israeli medics spraying cannabis into

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Speaker 1: their mouth because if you if you take cannabis in

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Speaker 1: through your mouth, it's the same as take gonna end

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Speaker 1: through your longs. It goes immediately into your blood system,

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Speaker 1: it goes immediately to your brain if you've been hit,

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Speaker 1: if you've got a concussion in your brain right there.

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Speaker 1: So here we have a whole different philosophy of medical

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Speaker 1: treatment with cannabis in the v A. In this country,

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Speaker 1: if you live in cannabis, you can't have it. If

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Speaker 1: you're if you're Israeli soldier, they'll give it to you

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Speaker 1: the interestant you're hurt. Um This necesity has to be eliminated. Eliminated.

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Speaker 1: How do we do that, you guys to help him

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Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, I mean he brings up such a

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Speaker 1: great point because working with the doctors in Iametic for Misrael,

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Speaker 1: who are part of our research, they even brought up

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Speaker 1: an example. They're like, save the player in the NFL

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Speaker 1: gets a concussion and go into the blue tent and

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Speaker 1: they say, you can cuss. The best thing they could

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Speaker 1: do for that player is give them cannabis. Because it

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Speaker 1: reduced to Breene Swelling, our number one injury on the

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Speaker 1: battlefield was blast I E d S. Right, improvise explosive.

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Speaker 1: So I would say back in two thousand six months

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Speaker 1: in flu him, we were getting hit left and right

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Speaker 1: by I E d S. And we just had guys

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Speaker 1: slumped over, be passed out and the turrets that have

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Speaker 1: blood come out of their ears. We didn't really know

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Speaker 1: what to do. They weren't shot, so we kind of

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Speaker 1: kept them going. So just from the blast they would

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Speaker 1: it's like they still be alive, but they're bleeding from

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Speaker 1: there just getting punched in the head. I mean, data's

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Speaker 1: got walloped, right, because what the big thing with the

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Speaker 1: concussion is you can put whatever you want on your head.

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Speaker 1: Your brain is floating in water and when it shakes

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Speaker 1: and hits on the side, that's how you get can

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Speaker 1: come swallow up, and that's why you're all jacked up.

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Speaker 1: So that's where we're seeing that. Man, if we just

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Speaker 1: had to Alice point our corman or medics were just

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Speaker 1: carrying some cannabis, you're automatically done for two weeks once

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Speaker 1: you get hit by an I e dd. I mean

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Speaker 1: it's like you're going down on protocol. Give them cannabis.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna bring them back much faster and healthier and

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Speaker 1: like say, their future in life, with the quality of life.

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Speaker 1: And as I know, you and I have talked about

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Speaker 1: this off air, and not a lot of people know

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Speaker 1: that we've talked about this because we haven't shared this

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Speaker 1: on there yet either. And I know al you're probably

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Speaker 1: priviably to what's going on out there in this real

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Speaker 1: world war that's happening in Ukraine. And that being said,

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Speaker 1: are you guys in touch out as well with other

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Speaker 1: soldiers that are trying to get it? Because I could

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Speaker 1: only imagine as you just described what you described, how

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Speaker 1: many of those clips did I see that look like

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Speaker 1: big fucking what you just described. Those are big blasts.

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Speaker 1: So how many of the Ukrainians have been blasted that

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Speaker 1: need more cannabis to help them. Now, that's a great point,

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Speaker 1: and Al, I don't know if you're on some of

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Speaker 1: our Veteran Action Council call. We actually brought the three

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Speaker 1: Ukrainian fighters on with us to discuss with them, and

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Speaker 1: that's one thing they really want is can somehow some

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Speaker 1: waken to get some cannabis access because right now they

565
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Speaker 1: are in a terrible war. The Russians are getting smarter, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: and they're having a little more chaos in there, and

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Speaker 1: they're just having problems getting access to medicine. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say cannabis. It's their medicine, right, So let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, two war veterans out twenty five years. I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious as we just brought this up. You have

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Speaker 1: a lot of experienced men in war and you've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of things. What do you think is going

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Speaker 1: to happen right now with the outcome of Ukraine. How

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Speaker 1: do you see this plane out for them in Russia.

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Speaker 1: I'm so randomly curious your thoughts. Well, I was a

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Speaker 1: midshipman during the mid the Cuban Crisis and got on

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Speaker 1: his ship, and you know, if he went to Cuba,

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Speaker 1: I thought I was gonna eighteen and at the behind

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Speaker 1: didn't happen. Uh Uh what uh this is? I just

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Speaker 1: think Prudent is a fucking nut, you know. And uh,

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Speaker 1: but that being said, he's a dangerous nut, and he

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Speaker 1: has a lot of power, and he has a lot

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Speaker 1: of exterience on how to use that power. So he's

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Speaker 1: a very dangerous man. My best hope is that if

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Speaker 1: if that idiot gives the Russian military command to ask

586
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Speaker 1: delay uh this Ukrainian Uh, it's awful and invasion uh

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Speaker 1: to escalated beyond what it is already. Yeahs Rush and

588
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Speaker 1: officers would do what I would do. I would disobey

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Speaker 1: at the command. Uh, That's what I hope. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a great point because unfortunately, what the Russians underneath the dictatorship,

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Speaker 1: they don't understand just warfare. Where if someone said, hey,

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Speaker 1: Brian and al go attack Canducks, we like their lakes

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Speaker 1: for fishing, we might be that's the bullshit order. We're

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Speaker 1: not going to do that. The Russians they kind of

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Speaker 1: fear for their lives because their families back home will

596
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Speaker 1: pay for it. And what I've been learning unfortunately was

597
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Speaker 1: kind of in the beginning. They just had no experience

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Speaker 1: in warfare. They their equipment is crap. I mean, they

599
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Speaker 1: didn't realize how bad it was. But talking to people

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Speaker 1: over there a great group. Former Regimental commander of Minus

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Speaker 1: A Marine Raider, Colonel Andy Milburn, he has a group

602
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Speaker 1: called the Mozart Group. It's a hundred special operators are

603
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Speaker 1: retired from Australia, UK and Amy helping out the Ukrainians

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Speaker 1: on advanced tactics and medical He said, you know, in

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Speaker 1: the Battle of Kiev for their capital, He's like, they

606
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Speaker 1: didn't really understand court in tactics. He's like, what they're

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Speaker 1: doing now is now for example, like the United States,

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Speaker 1: we would do surgical strikes. If you guys remember in

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Speaker 1: two thousand three of the Shock and All campaign and

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Speaker 1: bag that you saw specific buildings falling down. There were

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Speaker 1: guys with lasers hitting that thing as local nateral bombs

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Speaker 1: and basically the buildings was falling on themselves. The neighborhood

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Speaker 1: around was fine. Russia's just throwing artillery and just destroying

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Speaker 1: anything that moves. And then simultaneously court In meaning they're

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Speaker 1: putting troops all around. No one in no one out

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Speaker 1: and they're getting more efficient with their infantry and tank

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Speaker 1: integration to go through and sweep and clear. And again

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Speaker 1: they're not sitting there just looking for targets of opportunity,

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Speaker 1: or maybe that's the perfect word. They are looking at

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Speaker 1: targets of opportunity, meaning anyone where we would look at

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Speaker 1: military targets. So it's a very brutal. And to put

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Speaker 1: it home, we all know how bad ices was in

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Speaker 1: in the Assyria and Iraq correct burning pe bowl, drowning

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Speaker 1: in the mud pits, doing all things, raping women. He's

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Speaker 1: like the Russians and he fought the ISIS. He was

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Speaker 1: the Combined Joint Special Operation Task Force commander over there,

627
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Speaker 1: so a very big position. He said, the Russians are

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Speaker 1: worse than ISIS. Shut up that. Yeah, it's very very

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Speaker 1: colonel Annie. But Melbourne, that's your guy that you said

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Speaker 1: you worked with before the he was on CNN. He's

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Speaker 1: published it. He used to saying these guys are brutal.

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Speaker 1: And we just had a conversation the other week. He's like,

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Speaker 1: it's like the worst thing. You want to play Devil's

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Speaker 1: advocate for a second, right, And and this is just

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Speaker 1: me totally being a borderline asshole card. What do you

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Speaker 1: say now to somebody who goes, that's full of shit,

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Speaker 1: he's fucking lying. How do you handle that? Like? How

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Speaker 1: do you like, because I know you believe him so serious, right,

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Speaker 1: and because you believe I'm so serious, I believe you, right,

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Speaker 1: And my point is to you, then how do we

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Speaker 1: deal with those cats that comes at you or come

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Speaker 1: at the back? No, that that that's not what's happening. Um.

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Speaker 1: I come from experience. So when I was in Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: one some of my Afghan commanders and special forces guys,

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Speaker 1: they looked like Russians who spoke poshtune, right, So you

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Speaker 1: kind of knew, like, okay, you're probably conceived between nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy when the Soviets were there. My interpreter natter he

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Speaker 1: was it became an Americans. No idea what you said,

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Speaker 1: but I kind of pieced it together. But it's just

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Speaker 1: some like FBI well like some double O seven shift.

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Speaker 1: I got it, but it's still for those who listen

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Speaker 1: and got it. You got it. You're sitting there smiling,

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Speaker 1: going that was pretty clever, Like, well, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't listen to sis dialect. Let alone

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Speaker 1: fucking figure out what years they were probably born from

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Speaker 1: the U. S. S R. But your mind goes that way,

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Speaker 1: which I respect and get it so good, absolutly. Just

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Speaker 1: some people know the postumes are in the helmet area.

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Speaker 1: That's funny. No, I've never thought that way. I see

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Speaker 1: how you very tribal. So my interpreter, Nator, who was

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Speaker 1: in Afghanistan at the time, came over here and immigrated,

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Speaker 1: became an American citizen. His wife is a doctor, his

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Speaker 1: son is a Grammy winning artist and lives next to

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Speaker 1: the Little John. So kind of funny little tie in there.

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Speaker 1: But I asked him, like, how was it during the

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Speaker 1: morning of the like, you know, the invasion, whatever it was,

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Speaker 1: because well, we heard airplanes frying in the cobble. They

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Speaker 1: set up a puppet government and the next you know,

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Speaker 1: we just heard gunshots and tank grounds going off and

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Speaker 1: they're pulling women and children everyone out and just killing them.

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Speaker 1: So that's the man who was there tell me with

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Speaker 1: his own nut two eyes what he witnessed and hearing

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Speaker 1: Colonel Melbourne tell me this. Unfortunately you have to believe him.

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Speaker 1: He well, you know, al, we appreciate your time, man,

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Speaker 1: thank you for everything that you've done for our community,

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Speaker 1: for the patients that are out of time that you're

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Speaker 1: helping over there on that beautiful website, and everything else

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Speaker 1: that you're doing around the world and around the country,

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Speaker 1: and the years of service twenty five years. If I'm

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Speaker 1: not mistaken, if I'm recollection is correct, that you served

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Speaker 1: in the military and you continue to do for people,

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Speaker 1: and I feel like you're the guy that gives your

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Speaker 1: shirt off your back, man, and for that, I'm here

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Speaker 1: we could ever do for you out this platform is

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Speaker 1: here for you. That I know you're out there out

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Speaker 1: of state, but when you come to Cali, we're here

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Speaker 1: for you. And and thank you very much. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: and speak of you. Guys. I talked to Brian two

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Speaker 1: or three times a week. We got to really yeah

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Speaker 1: that transaction, counsel. Baby, If you want to invite me

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Speaker 1: only pop off, we want to have you pop off

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Speaker 1: to host you here at the Cannabis Talk one oh

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Speaker 1: on campus with of course Brian and everything else. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Brian for coming here, and thank you guys all

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Speaker 1: for being a part of the show, and for everybody

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