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Speaker 5: Here's Paul CALVICI I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready.

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Speaker 5: I'm telling you I'm ready. And Darren Urban how about

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Speaker 5: this herb kid.

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Speaker 2: The field.

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Speaker 5: They are officially known as voluntary off season workout programs.

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Speaker 5: Not on the Big Red Rage.

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Speaker 2: Not here.

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Speaker 5: We are fifty two weeks a year, bruh. Although Wolf

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Speaker 5: isn't here. Interesting, that's voluntary all of a sudden. More

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Speaker 5: on that later. More importantly, we are talking offense. That's

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Speaker 5: right in an off season dominated by defense, defense, Defense,

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Speaker 5: Marsha Marsha Marshall, we are gonna actually talk some offense

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Speaker 5: with rookie offensive lineman Hayden Connor. Our special guest here

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Speaker 5: are santan Ford and in a different way, in for Wolf,

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Speaker 5: our big get. Not just anybody can sit in for

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Speaker 5: you know, I only partially blame you as the lead

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Speaker 5: content creator at Easycardinals dot Com. I mean just you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't hurt that you were given an offensive

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Speaker 6: I design, you know, I just want to say that

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Speaker 5: How would you handicap that right now? That cornerback room,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, facts, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, I'm not and I'm not trying to take anything

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Speaker 5: Here's what I will say. With an improved pass rush.

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Speaker 5: azcardstravel dot com. Azcardstravel dot com. Already played sixteen games

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Speaker 5: for Texas last year, started every one of them, six

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Speaker 5: hundred and seventeen pass block snaps, zero sacks allowed. Hayden

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Speaker 5: Connor is next in the Big Red Rage presented by

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Speaker 5: Santan Ford in Gilbert With.

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Speaker 6: The two hundred and eleven pick in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: five NFL Draft to Arizona Cardinals select Hayden Connor, guard Texas.

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Speaker 5: He's a big, strong guy.

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Speaker 1: He can get movement.

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Speaker 5: Texas runs the ball a lot, He's played well in

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Speaker 8: You can put on a lot of tape where this

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Speaker 8: last year NFL player, so it's not a question of

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Speaker 2: He's been doing.

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Speaker 8: He's got I think forty three consecutive starts in Texas.

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Speaker 8: That's that's pretty damn good. So you got a big

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Speaker 8: guy who's really smart and who's fundamentally sounds So we

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Speaker 5: All right, Cardinals' decision makers on the player has started

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Speaker 5: every game, will last three years at Texas. We have

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Speaker 5: a question about that. Momentarily drafted on his twenty second birthday,

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Speaker 5: recently married, because good things happened in threes. As I

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Speaker 5: try and keep a straight face. He appears on The

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Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We

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Speaker 5: are Santan Ford, Paul Calvici. Here, Hayden Connor. There all

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Speaker 5: six foot six, three hundred and fourteen pounds of them. Hayden.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the Cardinals. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 5: So the Cardinals tweeted out when you were drafted. All right,

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Speaker 5: all right, all right? Have you met Matthew McConaughey.

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Speaker 2: Not formally but in passing seeing in the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Give him a high five or something, but nothing like, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan of Interstellar, Like none of that.

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Speaker 2: I wish I did but I never never had the courage.

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Speaker 5: He's a pretty ubiquitous presence though on the sideline, isn't.

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Speaker 2: He Oh yeah, he's He makes him stuff known. He's there.

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Speaker 5: That's great. We mentioned and heard from the decision makers

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Speaker 2: I'll say it again. He's He's an awesome guy. He's

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Speaker 5: You know, his energy. What does that do for a player?

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Speaker 2: Enthused, It makes it really easy to do all you

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Speaker 5: What are you most curious to find out about the NFL?

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Speaker 5: remember you mentioned you mentioned your press conference the fine structure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the fines are real. M. I've already had to

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Speaker 5: But see that's the norm. We learned that Walter Nolan

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Speaker 5: I've never heard that one before.

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Speaker 2: No, we didn't have ebsence slow. We had a bunch

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Speaker 2: of it. A mountain valley. What I like? Mountain valley,

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of personalities, you know. I feel

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to meet him. I've heard a lot about him.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, I love all the guys in the room.

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Speaker 2: You know, I got lucky coming here with Christian Jones.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you talk about energy Christian Jones, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Oh, it never has a bad day. Most positive guy.

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Speaker 5: Hayden Connor is our guest. We mentioned you know you

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Speaker 5: started every game last three years, including sixteen games a

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think, like rookie Wall, there's always that cliche.

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Speaker 2: Not really, no, No, I mean it was the sec

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Speaker 5: First off, if I said which game film are you

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Speaker 5: In Clemson Clemson, Okay, Yeah, I mean Georgia, Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: I'm just excited for the opportunity to prove myself. You

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Speaker 5: Was there something in your scouter report you did not like?

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Speaker 5: Always seems like there's something like Kalaya Scmpbell was a

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Speaker 5: That's why he went top a second round. Right, He's

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Speaker 5: What was in your scouter report that maybe you didn't

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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I didn't read my scouting report.

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Speaker 5: Well, they called you an above average run blocker.

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Speaker 5: Is there such a thing as a good fit, a

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Speaker 5: This team likes to get its guards out into space

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean turn on the film. I remember there

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Speaker 5: What else about your Texas career are you proud of?

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Speaker 5: I mean, think of the guys you just had to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot where I got a lot

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Speaker 5: Rage Round six pick offensive lineman. What was your reaction

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Speaker 2: Different? Yeah? Different? And it was a lot. But I

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Speaker 2: I did a NASA Space settlement design competition in high school.

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Speaker 5: I asked him, do you or do you not believe

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Speaker 5: Because he said no, really, is there an easy answer

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Speaker 5: as to why you believe in aliens?

436
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,280
Speaker 2: Well, I mean define alien? Right, You're gonna talk about

437
00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 2: the little microscopic organisms on different planets? Like, sure, those

438
00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,160
Speaker 2: are those are living creatures? Right? But they are intelligent? Right?

439
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 2: But then you know there's the question is there other

440
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 2: intelligent species out there? And I think there is, right.

441
00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,919
Speaker 2: I believe in the ancient a Aliens theory. It's on

442
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 2: History Channel. Go watch it. It's awesome show.

443
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 5: See there's just far more that we don't know, though

444
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,439
Speaker 5: we do know in this universe, right, it's crazy. All right,

445
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 5: lightning round questions. Here we go, Hayden Connor, you're ready,

446
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,920
Speaker 5: we'll just go rip through these.

447
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,439
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

448
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 5: Number fifty eight good, bad, or no matter? And I

449
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 5: bring up your number because Luther Burden the Third he

450
00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 5: got number eighty seven and they asked him, well, why

451
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 5: eighty seventy? He said, because all the good numbers were gone?

452
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 5: Even more number three of the zoo. Does it even

453
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,840
Speaker 5: matter for an offensive lineman? What number you're rocking?

454
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you've got history with a number, maybe,

455
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 2: but I don't. My dad wore fifty and fifty five

456
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 2: in college, and so I'm like, oh, I get something

457
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 2: close to that. I thought that was a good choice.

458
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 5: Okay, next question, do you trash talk?

459
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 2: No? No?

460
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 5: What if someone pokes the bear? What if you're provoked,

461
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 5: no scoreboard, bro. Best and worst thing about being a

462
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 5: big guy six six, three fifteen or so, give or

463
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 5: take best and worst thing?

464
00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean one of the worst things is

465
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: trying to fun clothes that fit you, especially growing up.

466
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 2: It was horrible. I still don't have I don't have

467
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: a big closet. I grow all my stuff still, I'm

468
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: constantly changing. But good thing. People don't sit next to

469
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,120
Speaker 2: you on airplanes.

470
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 5: It's true. You're right. I see for me every every

471
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 5: economy seat is the first class seat. Yeah, no, sir,

472
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 5: all right, you're from Katie, Texas outside Houston. Friday Night Lights.

473
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 5: What's better the book, the movie or the TV series

474
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Speaker 5: Friday Night Lights?

475
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 2: The movie? Absolutely?

476
00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 5: Have you seen the TV series?

477
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Speaker 2: I've seen. I've seen some episodes, but I've I've watched

478
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: the movie probably five times.

479
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. I think good over and above. Yeah, probably. Okay,

480
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 5: Katie Texas, We're going out to dinner. What's the quintessential

481
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,919
Speaker 5: meal I would order? You know in Katie.

482
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Speaker 2: Texas and Katie?

483
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, well what I order?

484
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Speaker 2: Uh, there's not a lot in Katie. You could you

485
00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 2: could go to Pearl and Vine. It's a newer and

486
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: Newer Steakhouse. It's really good. I would go there, but

487
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: for me after games, it was always water.

488
00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,719
Speaker 5: Burger, gotcha?

489
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah?

490
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 5: What is your go to on a cheat day? You know,

491
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Speaker 5: like if you had to put on weight? You know

492
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 5: what what what direction you're going?

493
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Speaker 2: Well, I will never have to put on wait, thankfully

494
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 2: realized that would be too easy.

495
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,240
Speaker 5: So you're not that guy who has to eat peanut

496
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 5: butter and jelly sandwiches between meals or anything.

497
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 2: No, my metabolism is not fast anymore. It used to be,

498
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: but not anymore cheat meal. I mean, I'm a big

499
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 2: burger guy, so it'd be like, it could be any burger,

500
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: like I like, I like In and Out, but I

501
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: like Waburger more because I'm kind of biased, grew up

502
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 2: on it. But just a big, big cheeseburger, milkshake, maybe

503
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: French fries. Kah.

504
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,919
Speaker 5: That's probably you probably have to bring some of that

505
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 5: into the old line room at some point, right, Probably

506
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 5: Christian Jones giving you any advice on that front, being

507
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 5: a rookie of year ago.

508
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's helped a lot. He actually sent me

509
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: the list of snacks to get and he's like, hey,

510
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 2: like for the special teams, meaning you got to let

511
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 2: him know or you'll get fined. Okay, sure that's right.

512
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 5: Well is that new for you being on special teams?

513
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 2: No, No, it's not. I was on field goal as

514
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 2: a freshman college, so I'm used to it in a

515
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: different position, but you know, I can call it. I

516
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 2: was able to do both interiors in high school. I snapped,

517
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: so I can do it right.

518
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,679
Speaker 5: And you called yourself a five position offensive lineman. As

519
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 5: you wrap it up here with Hayden Connor, I mean,

520
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 5: how do you envision your role with this team? As

521
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 5: you guys get closer and closer to camp, where do

522
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 5: you think you're going to get the most reps?

523
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 2: Wherever Coach Fry wants me. I really do pride myself

524
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: on being an all five guy, mainly the three interior.

525
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: You know I can do all three interior very well.

526
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 2: But you know, I'm just trying to find my role

527
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: right now, and whatever that is, I'm going to be

528
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: happy with and I'm going to do it the best

529
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 2: that I can.

530
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,120
Speaker 5: Well, I'll tell you what I liked your quote earlier.

531
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Speaker 5: I know I'm good enough to fight for a starting job,

532
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 5: but humble enough to fit in wherever. Yeah, tell me

533
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 5: about your mentality. Last question, just your mentality and maybe

534
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 5: any advice you've received as an NFL rookie.

535
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: I mean that quote right there kind of kind of

536
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,399
Speaker 2: says it. You know, I'm I I was picked for

537
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 2: a reason, right, I've got to go prove that. I

538
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 2: got to go prove that they made the right choice.

539
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm confident in my ability to go

540
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,040
Speaker 2: out there and do what I've been doing for the

541
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: past four years. Right, But you know, I'm not naive

542
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 2: to the fact that this is a completely different ballgame

543
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 2: than it was in college. And I'm just excited to learn.

544
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to try to learn from the older guys,

545
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm just excited. Okay.

546
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 5: And you found a place to live in Arizonia? Are

547
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 5: you still looking?

548
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, me and my wife found a place nice. Okay.

549
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: Well, congratulations all around.

550
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 2: Thank you.

551
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 5: There you go, Hayden Connor. Everyone, we continue. It's the

552
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 5: Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert. How

553
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 5: about rookie Darius Robinson penetrates it takes down Hi and Williams.

554
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: Darius Robinson stuffed.

555
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 5: It awso to TfL for the first round rookie. I

556
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 5: feel like this is the obligatory. Darius Robinson questioned, But

557
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 5: how do you think he played? Coach disruption?

558
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 7: He had some knock back, he made some plays in

559
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 7: the run game.

560
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: I thought he rushed. Well, yeah, he's he's doing well.

561
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 7: I thought it was his best game that he's played.

562
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 5: JG on his TV show said that he felt like

563
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 5: the Grams game was your best game. Did you kind

564
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 5: of feel the.

565
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 7: Same, Uh?

566
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 9: JAJ said, yeah, you know, whatever he say, I'm with it.

567
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 9: So this is obviously this is the last thing everyone's

568
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 9: gonna remember you from your last time you're on tape.

569
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 9: So I'm just focused on competing on Sunday and putting

570
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 9: good things on tape.

571
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: So that's the last memory everybody has.

572
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,719
Speaker 5: The man, there's Darius Robinson. The end of last season,

573
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 5: much of his season curtailed by injury. But based on

574
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 5: what we've seen this offseason, tick tock, he is coming.

575
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 5: He looks really good and we are really excited about

576
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 5: what's to be this year. In his second year. It

577
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 5: is a big red rage presented by Santan ford in

578
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 5: Gilbert Paul Calvic, Darren Irvan filling in for the aforementioned

579
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 5: Ron Wolfley who was in there, and special thanks to

580
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 5: Hayden Connor not only a three year starting offensive lineman

581
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 5: for Texas, but he was a guy who was on

582
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 5: track for an aerospace engineering degree before football got in

583
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 5: the way. And big guy, big iq. And how about

584
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: the fact he believes in aliens. So that counters Josh Dobbs,

585
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: who two three years ago aerospace engineer, does not believe

586
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 5: in aliens. So right now, I know that's a big

587
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 5: thing for you. So we're working if you're scoring at home,

588
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 5: Just thought I mentioned that. Beyond that, Darren, what stood

589
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 5: out to you about Hayden Connor to the sixth round

590
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 5: rookie offensive lineman.

591
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 6: I know he talked about this before, but again in

592
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 6: this interview, you know how he's mentioning how comfortable he

593
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 6: is on the interior spots. And we've talked about this

594
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 6: a million times, Paul, like that's a place where they

595
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 6: needed some depth another body. And even if you go

596
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Speaker 6: back to the draft, like people were freaking out that

597
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 6: they had already gotten to the sixth round before they

598
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 6: addressed that position. Yeah, and then they got Hayden Connor.

599
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 6: And I mean to me, sixth round like, that's a

600
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 6: pretty good pick for a six round. Now we're gonna

601
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 6: have to see what happens on the field and how

602
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: this all plays out. But you can absolutely find a

603
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 6: starting guard in the NFL in the sixth round. I

604
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 6: mean that's been that's happened a million times. So I

605
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 6: like what he brings to the table. I love kind

606
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 6: of his mindset and you can kind of hear it

607
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 6: in that interview, and if he can be a guy

608
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 6: that is versatile enough to play all those those three

609
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 6: interior positions and maybe even I mean there's an open

610
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 6: guard spot. Well I shouldn't say it open. You would

611
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: assume Isaiah Adams and Evan Brownie your starting guards this year,

612
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: but I mean there's nothing guaranteed, and we'll see what

613
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 6: happens with Hayden Connor. And if he can put himself

614
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 6: in a place where he's ready to start next year,

615
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 6: like Isaiah Adams might be one year removed, that's awesome.

616
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 5: And you know what, the Rams, to your point, took

617
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 5: a six round out of Arkansas who ended up being

618
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 5: their starting center as a rookie last year, started fifteen

619
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 5: games and beat out a highly paid free agent. So

620
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 5: and we know one thing about Jonathan Ganna, if you

621
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 5: can play, you will play, regardless of draft position. So

622
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 5: we'll see what's the opportunity he gets. We know Daris

623
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 5: Robinson is a twenty seventh pick overall two years ago,

624
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 5: is gonna get every opportunity for a rebound season. In fact,

625
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 5: one of the questions this week to the Cardinals defensive

626
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 5: lineman was whether we've seen what he can really do yet?

627
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Not really this visc and pieces.

628
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 9: You know, I was out there, I did my very best,

629
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 9: but I think this jump from year one, year and

630
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 9: two is gonna be huge. So because I'm just excited

631
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 9: to compete and just put it on tape and just

632
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 9: super excited for this year.

633
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 5: He also said I feel like I have a lot

634
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 5: to prove this year. I mean, you talk about all ball,

635
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 5: that's definitely Darius Robinson. That's something that Jonathan Gannon maniasin

636
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 5: for look for in the person. That's the first filter

637
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 5: they have. Okay, is this guy deadly serious about football?

638
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 5: We know he is, just based on the work he

639
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 5: puts in off the field. You can see it in

640
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 5: the added muscle mass and Darren I really hesitate to

641
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 5: do this and you're probably gonna tell me to go,

642
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 5: I'll polly pump the brakes, but I'm gonna say it anyway,

643
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 5: based on him working the sled and one offseason workout

644
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 5: and then him hitting the bags, there'll be like eight

645
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 5: or nine guys in line, and then there's Darius Robinson.

646
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 5: Now Walter Nolan the third wasn't participating. I'm just saying

647
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 5: his quickness in his explosion just this week out on

648
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: that field really stood out and a guy his size,

649
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 5: I mean, to the point earlier, have we seen the

650
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 5: best of what he's been able to do. I would

651
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 5: say absolutely not. Ever since that calf injury going into

652
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Speaker 5: week one a year ago, I don't think he's been

653
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Speaker 5: fully healthy until now.

654
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Speaker 6: That's why I asked the question, I mean, the when

655
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Speaker 6: he just was asked about whether it had been seeing that.

656
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Speaker 6: I asked that, like, do you feel like that because

657
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Speaker 6: of exactly what you just said, Paul, Like he was

658
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Speaker 6: playing so well in training camp before he got hurt

659
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Speaker 6: and it just didn't look the same when he came back.

660
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Speaker 6: And the only question that anybody would have and I

661
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Speaker 6: know it got brought up to Jonathan Gannon and to

662
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Speaker 6: I can't remember if Darius was asked, But like.

663
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Speaker 2: Does.

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Speaker 6: Does the time miss last year? Is that something he

665
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 6: still has to make up before he really finds his

666
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 6: way because he missed so much time. Now, Jonathan Gannon

667
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 6: seemed very confident that he's gonna make the year two jump,

668
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 6: even though he only played in six games. I'm looking

669
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Speaker 6: forward to it. But yes, I'm gonna say two. Well,

670
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Speaker 6: I'll say three things. Number One, I would never tell

671
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Speaker 6: you to pump the breaks, Paul. I'm just not that

672
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Speaker 6: kind of person.

673
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Speaker 5: Appreciated. Number two.

674
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Speaker 6: I do think he looks different than most players, which

675
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 6: is why he was a first round pick. I mean

676
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 6: that's the reality of what he brings. He's a physical specimen.

677
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 6: He is if you drew up a disruptive interior defensive

678
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 6: lineman literally in a lab, that's what you would get.

679
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 6: But three, you gotta do it on the field. Like

680
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 6: it's it's funny kind of off in the corner here,

681
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: there's a James Harrison football life going on on the

682
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Speaker 6: TVs while we're recording this. And James Harrison, he was

683
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Speaker 6: a nobody when it came out. And the way he

684
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 6: was built, I mean he was super strong, but he

685
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 6: was short like no one would have drawn what he

686
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Speaker 6: looked like in a lab and he was awesome. So again,

687
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 6: you gotta you gotta produce it. But he's got every

688
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 6: spot there and and I truly believe he's got the

689
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Speaker 6: mental makeup that one is gonna push him to get there.

690
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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go back to your first point. I

691
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 5: think it's very valid in this case is you know what,

692
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 5: nothing replaces game reps. And in talking to the media

693
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: at the end of last season, he said, his first

694
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 5: two three games, he realized, you know what, he's almost hyperventilating.

695
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 5: He was so fired up. Gap integrity wasn't even there.

696
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 5: He's just running around looking to make a play. No,

697
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 5: the plays will come to you. Man your spot, man

698
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 5: your gap. So as things calm down, he was more

699
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 5: productive in those last couple of games. The other thing

700
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Speaker 5: I'll cite is the d lineman taken after him two

701
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 5: years ago was Braydon Fisk of the Rams. He had

702
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 5: eight sacks, seven of them were in the last eight

703
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 5: games of the year. Yeah, so it's almost like he

704
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 5: took that first half of his rookie season to get

705
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: acclimated and then boom, once you know the game, you

706
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 5: can really excel and you're you know, and so it's

707
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 5: all about putting that game film out there. In fact,

708
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Speaker 5: Darius Robinson said, yes, that is one of his objectives

709
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Speaker 5: this year.

710
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Speaker 2: I only played six games.

711
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Speaker 9: I was just constantly rethinking about those six games and

712
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 9: thinking about what I need to do to make that

713
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 9: next jump in my game because I feel against training

714
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 9: cant like it was hot, Like the tag was hot,

715
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 9: like all the like everybody it was hot, and you know,

716
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 9: coming back, you know, it was just it was just cool.

717
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 9: So I gotta find a way to you know, in Phoenix,

718
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 9: I got to get it hot again.

719
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Speaker 5: That's great.

720
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Speaker 2: That was a great quote.

721
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 5: It's good. And the other thing you have to consider,

722
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 5: and he said this that last year, twenty twenty four

723
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 5: was both the best year of his life and the

724
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 5: worst year of his life. He was the first round

725
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 5: draft pick, a guy only played two years of high

726
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 5: school football because he was a basketball player. In the

727
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: elation of that and then the devastation of losing his

728
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 5: mother as a young man, so he had a lot

729
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 5: to deal with now mentally if he's back and now

730
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 5: it zoom out to that D line room. Yeah, I mean, Darren,

731
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 5: you know, you look, you just look at those d

732
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 5: line drills again, and it just it drives home how

733
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 5: different the defensive front will look this year, and then

734
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 5: how different the results could be starting Week one.

735
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 6: I have again covered this team for more than twenty

736
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 6: five years. I do not recall a season in which

737
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Speaker 6: a particular position group was transformed to the level that

738
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 6: this one was.

739
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 5: Now.

740
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 6: Again, some of that is happenstance. I mean, if we're

741
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 6: including edge rushers and some of this. Bjo Jalari comes

742
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 6: in almost like a bonus player because he was gone

743
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 6: all last season. Darius Robinson is almost like a bonus

744
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: player because he was a first round pick last year,

745
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 6: but he barely played, So some of that was happenstance.

746
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 6: But you draft Walter Nolan, you bring in Klays Campbell back,

747
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 6: you signed Dalvin Tomlinson, you have Josh Sweat. You have

748
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 6: again when we talk about bonus players, Justin Jones barely

749
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: played last year and now he's coming back. I don't recall.

750
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Speaker 6: And again, when I say transformation, I'm talking about from

751
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 6: the back half of the year. Obviously Justin Jones and

752
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 6: Darius Robinson were there at the very beginning. But the

753
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 6: difference between what this defensive line is going to look

754
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 6: like when they start the season fingers crossed to where

755
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: it was like the last six weeks of last season.

756
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 6: That's crazy.

757
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 5: Drew stan was talking about this on the Red Sea Report.

758
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: Just the possibilities gives Nick Rolis and Jonathan Gannon coordinating

759
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 5: the defense if you can all of a sudden rush

760
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 5: for and drop seven. And what Drew made a point of,

761
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 5: it's not just rushing for after the quarterback, it's stopping

762
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 5: the run with four. And yes, the Cardinals too often

763
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 5: because they were so depleted in that d line room

764
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 5: had to vote extra assets to stopping the run. Then

765
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Speaker 5: obviously it makes you a liability in the back end.

766
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 5: So it could be a totally different look on defense. Hey,

767
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 5: get ready for this season. The latest gear from the

768
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 5: Cardinals team shop, Yes, including the recently dropped Marvin Harrison

769
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: junior jersey. Go to Ezycardinals dot com slash shop today.

770
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Speaker 5: All right, we're talking offense, we promised James Connor and more.

771
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: Next than the big red Rage presented by santan Ford

772
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Speaker 5: in Gilbert.

773
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: Hands it off to Connor running right inside the twenty

774
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 4: five twenty far side fifteen ten and Connor finally taken

775
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: down at the five.

776
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: You pull out, yelled the pro hold. He gets a

777
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: kickout Paris Johnson Junior through the whole All that is

778
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: Wickedy Jingle good.

779
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: They go two backs with Benson and Connor.

780
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 4: Hurry takes the shotgun snap hand off Connor running the left,

781
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 4: He gets the edge and he's into the end zone

782
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 4: for the touchdowns. The Cardinals score again thirty to three

783
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 4: with ten thirty three to go in the third.

784
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a little dust in the wind. You go

785
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: ahead and run another gap scheme, down blocks, playside kickouts,

786
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: well executed by the Arizona Cardinals.

787
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Speaker 4: The Cardinals are gashing.

788
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 5: Them, no doubt. Second year in row the Arizona Cardinals

789
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 5: rushing offense number two in yards per carry. How about

790
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 5: number two last season in chunk runs, explosive runs and

791
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 5: a big reason why number six James Connor and just

792
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: one of the league leaders all year in miss tackles forced.

793
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 5: It is the Big Red Rage presented by San tan

794
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert Paul KELVC Darren are been filling in

795
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 5: for Ron Wolfley and Wolfe's favorite subject, the run game.

796
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: I have to say I was very excited for wolf

797
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 6: to let me know to pull out my yelled defro hold.

798
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: That was a very quality SoundBite. I enjoyed that.

799
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 5: I wonder if Yelda Frohold, has he been selling protein

800
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 5: on the side, like Marvin Harrison Junior and Darius Robinson.

801
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 5: You know all these guys, it's you know, they've they've

802
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 5: adopted the diet of yelled afro holdt I did Avid Weightlifter.

803
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 6: Although I'm going to go back to we haven't talked

804
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 6: about Walter Nolan Darius Robinson noting that he brought EPs

805
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 6: and salt for everybody, which I thought was hilarious because yeah,

806
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 6: and maybe it is this great thing, but like Darius

807
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 6: made it sound.

808
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, hey this he brought it off. I'm like, okay, yeah,

809
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: I mean Danny Sirek was impressed. Me not so much.

810
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 5: Hayden Connor said, yeah, I've never heard of that. Earlier

811
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 5: in this show here the big Red Rage said yeah,

812
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 5: I've just been bringing in snacks and donuts for the offensive.

813
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 5: So yeah, they've elevated their game in the d line room.

814
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 5: Very interesting. So okay, so I didn't mean it derail you, Paul, No,

815
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 5: that's good stuff. All the rookies have all their duties

816
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 5: and then you have team captains like James Connor, and

817
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 5: it's really interesting. You know this team as well as anyone,

818
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 5: and just to watch all the young guys follow players

819
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 5: like Buddha and James Connor, and it's not so much

820
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 5: what they say, it's what they do. It's best practices.

821
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 5: And I think everyone can sense. And Calvin Beacham even

822
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 5: recently voiced this on Arizona Sports is look, the time

823
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 5: is now, the building is over, it is time to compete.

824
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 5: And we asked James Connor about that sense of urgency

825
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: at this moment.

826
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yeah, this is uh, why not be right now?

827
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: You know the time is now. We got talented roster

828
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: right now, we added talented players to it. I'm ready.

829
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: You know we ain't doing this forever. I sure enough

830
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: you know doing it forever, So sooner or better We'll

831
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: put it like that.

832
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Speaker 5: To me, I always start with the division, right. You

833
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 5: swept the forty nine ers last year. I know they

834
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 5: had injury issues, whatever you had. Jack stopped the Rams

835
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 5: in week two. You almost got it in week seventeen

836
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 5: at their place where they were playing really good football

837
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 5: and almost up ended the Eagles. You were a deflective

838
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,280
Speaker 5: pass off the helmet of Tray McBride away from winning

839
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 5: that game Seattle. You owe the Seahawks, but now they're

840
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: minus Gino Smith, who's been a really vexing problem. So

841
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 5: to me, you start with the division, and the biggest

842
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 5: step maybe all of last year, other than doubling your

843
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 5: win total, was you were much more competitive in the division.

844
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: And now if you can take that next step in

845
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: this process, how do you think the Cardinals stack up

846
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 5: right now in their own division, the NFC West.

847
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Speaker 6: I feel like they're in a really good place for

848
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 6: all the things we've already talked about. I mean, it's

849
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 6: gonna be interesting to see again, they've stayed fairly pat

850
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 6: in terms of offensively, so any improvements there is going

851
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 6: to have to come through jumps from the players and

852
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 6: whatever they might do with the playbook. But defensively, we've

853
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 6: already talked about that. And it's funny you look around,

854
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 6: Paul and you look at the analysis in the offseason.

855
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 6: That's all anybody can do right now is analysis that

856
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 6: means nothing because we're so far away from playing, and

857
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 6: some people want to call the Cardinals an underrated and

858
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 6: like sleeper, and then there's others that are like, it

859
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 6: sounds like they're dismissing the Cardinals. Maybe not out of

860
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 6: hand or necessarily totally towards the Cardinals, but they're like, look,

861
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 6: forty nine ers are not as bad as you think

862
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: they are, and they're playing the easiest schedule in the

863
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,280
Speaker 6: league by far. The Rams are in really good place.

864
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: The Seahawks, they just seem to be going in the

865
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 6: right direction. And they got Sam Darnold. I feel like

866
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 6: some people kind of forget about him. I think this

867
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Speaker 6: division could be really fascinating. And if you could tell

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Speaker 6: me any of the combinations, and I'm not a math guy.

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Speaker 5: We often talked.

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Speaker 2: About this point.

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Speaker 5: No math, no math, no math. You could give me

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Speaker 5: any of the.

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Speaker 6: Combinations of any of these four teams in any of

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Speaker 6: the four spots at the end of the season, and

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Speaker 6: I'd be like, Okay, I could see how that could happen.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, maybe, just maybe I will say this for

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Speaker 5: everything that's different about the Cardinals this year, one similar

878
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Speaker 5: challenge last year is the back half of the schedule,

879
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Speaker 5: the degree of difficulty. So maybe the analysts, the Punnits

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Speaker 5: nationally are looking at a team that came out of

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Speaker 5: the by leading the division then went two and five

882
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Speaker 5: down the stretch. So that is the big challenge for

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Speaker 5: a team that needs to be at its best in November, December,

884
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Speaker 5: and January. We'll see. We do know this, James Connor

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Speaker 5: is going to be one of those team leaders. We've

886
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Speaker 5: said it many times. He's not just a player. He

887
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Speaker 5: is a mindset. He is a mentality. So maybe that's

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Speaker 5: why Jonathan Cannon said this when he was asked about, Hey,

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Speaker 5: have you ever considered now that he's thirty years of age,

890
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Speaker 5: you know, lessening James Conner's workload in the off season.

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Speaker 7: I always have those thoughts, and then you talked to

892
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Speaker 7: him about it and he'll punch you in the face

893
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Speaker 7: and tell him that. So no, he's going to continue

894
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Speaker 7: to do what he does, and he's going to get

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Speaker 7: himself ready to carry the load for us.

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Speaker 5: I know that. I would say also that there are

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Speaker 5: twelve starters on this offense, and that twelve starter is

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Speaker 5: Trey Benson. Yeah, because as hard as James Connor runs,

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Speaker 5: and as much as this team wants to run the ball,

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Speaker 5: then they're going to need a second running back. And

901
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Speaker 5: if James Connor is grooming Trey Benson like we saw

902
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Speaker 5: for a few games before Benson went down with injury,

903
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Speaker 5: and he really is winning the offseason. Like James Connor said,

904
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Speaker 5: look out, that's the one two punch the Cardinals desperately need.

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Speaker 6: We talk a lot about the offense, and we talk about, Okay,

906
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Speaker 6: how much does Trey Benson play as opposed to James

907
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Speaker 6: Connor in terms of carries, and hey, is Marvin Harrison

908
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Speaker 6: going to get more? And look, if they can be

909
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Speaker 6: more successful offensively, which they need to be more successful offensively,

910
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Speaker 6: the numbers are going to go up, or the numbers

911
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 6: will be there because they weren't that consistent offensively and

912
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Speaker 6: you still got to create first downs to have more plays. Now,

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Speaker 6: I think this team, if it does it the way

914
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Speaker 6: it wants to do it, it's gonna run clock and

915
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Speaker 6: it's gonna grind a little bit and you might have

916
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Speaker 6: a few less offensive plays then some other teams might

917
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Speaker 6: or or like the twenty fifteen Cardinals might have. Because

918
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Speaker 6: that's the whole point is like, we're gonna ramp up

919
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Speaker 6: our defense, We're gonna have to be really good, and

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Speaker 6: we're gonna try and keep them on the sideline as

921
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Speaker 6: much as possible. And then then we really are cooking

922
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Speaker 6: with gas and so. But but going back to your

923
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Speaker 6: original point, I absolutely think Trey Benson's going to be

924
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Speaker 6: a bigger part of this. But unless he gets hurt,

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Speaker 6: I'm not counting out James Connor. And if you think

926
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Speaker 6: he wants to punch you in the face because you're

927
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Speaker 6: trying to lower his practice reps in the offseason, I

928
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Speaker 6: can only imagine what kind of damage he might want

929
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Speaker 6: to do if you're trying to take away his playing time.

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Speaker 5: During ye season, no doubt, no doubt. Yeah, you keep

931
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Speaker 5: your distance from James Conner on the sideline in game day.

932
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Speaker 5: That's an absolute. Let me ask you this, how many

933
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Speaker 5: emails do you get in the mail bag about the

934
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Speaker 5: receiver room? Huh?

935
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Speaker 2: Once a week? Baby?

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Speaker 5: And and I bring that up because you know, I

937
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Speaker 5: think that is still a question to me. There's two questions.

938
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Speaker 5: On offense, do you end up signing a veteran interior

939
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Speaker 5: offensive lineman? I think you wait to camp, you see

940
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Speaker 5: what you have probably And then number two, Okay, is

941
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Speaker 5: there a need or a want for a veteran receiver?

942
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Speaker 5: I don't know exactly who's out there, if they'd be

943
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Speaker 5: a good fit. And I don't necessarily mean a speed receiver.

944
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Speaker 5: I don't think that's nearly as necessary as finding another

945
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Speaker 5: reliable third down target to go along with Trey McBride.

946
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Speaker 5: Who could it be, Michael Wilson, Could it be Greg Dortsch,

947
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Speaker 5: you know, could it be Zay Jones? You know, is

948
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Speaker 5: that guy on the roster? Because to me, you just

949
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Speaker 5: Kyler needs another reliable go to guys.

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Speaker 6: So you're not saying third down and you're taking Marvin

951
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Speaker 6: out of the equation.

952
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Speaker 5: Oh Marvin, I'm sorry, Marvin Aerson. He was the default.

953
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Speaker 5: He was the default, there's no doubt, but on third

954
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Speaker 5: down he's probably gonna get doubled. Probably, I mean, who

955
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Speaker 5: else is able to step up?

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Speaker 6: I think these are all legitimate questions. I don't think

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Speaker 6: there's going to be any significant changes in my head

958
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Speaker 6: until we get to camp. I think they're gonna want

959
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Speaker 6: to see we talked at the outset about the nine practices.

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Speaker 6: I think John think Gannon and his coaching staff are

961
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Speaker 6: gonna want to get through these nine practices and see

962
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Speaker 6: what it kind.

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Speaker 2: Of looks like.

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Speaker 6: Now at receiver, they kind of already know what it

965
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Speaker 6: looks like because these are all the guys that are back.

966
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Speaker 6: So what does that mean? Are they looking for somebody?

967
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Speaker 6: Have they been holding off? Is there just somebody out

968
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Speaker 6: there that they might want but wants too much money

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Speaker 6: for the role they're gonna have. I mean again, when

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Speaker 6: we talk about receiver, part of the issue is what

971
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Speaker 6: are you bringing him in for? How much are they

972
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Speaker 6: gonna do and what are you willing to pay a

973
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Speaker 6: guy for doing what I think is gonna be a

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Speaker 6: very limited.

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Speaker 5: Role, or maybe I'm just overthinking it, and that's why

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Speaker 5: I missed Marmon Irrison Junior. And if he makes that

977
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Speaker 5: year one to year two leap, if his production matches

978
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Speaker 5: the muscle mass that he added, then that's all you need.

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride, a pro Bowl tight end and a legit

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Speaker 5: wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: One.

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