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Speaker 3: To you, I never had a live.

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Speaker 2: If you think that one person has all the answers,

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Speaker 2: don't welcome to trust Me. The podcast about cults, extreme

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Speaker 2: belief and manipulation from two movie stars who've actually experienced it.

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Speaker 2: I'm Lola Blanc and.

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Speaker 1: I'm Megan Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: Today, our guest is an actual movie star, Rosanna Arquette, director, actor, activist.

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Speaker 2: She's gonna tell us about her childhood and how she

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Speaker 2: grew up on a commune that was part of the

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Speaker 2: became interested in growth and self reflection, leader in life,

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Speaker 1: She'll also tell us about her experiences with Harvey Weinstein's

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Speaker 1: and be part of a movement that changed the world.

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Speaker 2: That's right, all that and more, and before we dive

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Speaker 2: in with her, Megan, tell me your cultis thing.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm excited about this week's cultiest thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at some articles that are saying that there's

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Speaker 1: new evidence that we're genetically predisposed to like serial killer documentaries,

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Speaker 1: that we it makes sense for us to want to

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Speaker 1: get game plays because we feel like it's going to

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Speaker 1: help us defeat them in the end, which makes me

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Speaker 1: happy because it always feels kind of dark that people

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Speaker 1: just love to watch people get martyred, You.

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Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Interesting? Do you find in your life? This is fully anecdotal,

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Speaker 2: I don't have any statistics, but do you find in

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Speaker 1: And I guess that would, you know, make the points

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Speaker 1: even more because we're usually the ones getting murdered.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, generally speaking. Yeah, that's that's interesting. I mean I

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Speaker 2: What it activates for me is just this like fascination

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Speaker 2: more like random killers on the like yeah, random angry guys,

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Speaker 1: You know the statistics are low, but let's knock on

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Speaker 2: Oh God, I'm so tired.

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Speaker 4: What about you?

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Speaker 1: What's the cultiest thing that happened to you this week?

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Speaker 2: The culties thing that IVI is week, honestly is that

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Speaker 2: I've been staring at a computer so long that I'm

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Speaker 2: Steve Wozniak. Do you know who he is?

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Speaker 1: Say? More so?

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Speaker 2: He's He was one of the co founders of Acts.

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Speaker 1: He was in the garage with Steve Jobs.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and I so my I know him, like my

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Speaker 1: Musk just needs to do more acid like Steve Jobs

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Speaker 2: Did you hear about this? Earlier this year, Reuter said

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Speaker 2: I think it's pretty fun once you get once you

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Speaker 1: No, no, I just saw a video of a woman

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome to trust Me. Rosanna Arcuat. It is so

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Speaker 2: nice to meet you. I think this week for both

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Speaker 2: And look how freaking cool when you were born in

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Speaker 1: I love crash.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, yeah, all of it.

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Speaker 2: Coronabergs crash.

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Speaker 3: We are the Coronabergshop.

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Speaker 2: All right, tell us about your childhood, because we are

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Speaker 2: very curious about this, you know, of your life.

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Speaker 3: I had a great I had a crazy, amazing upbringing.

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Speaker 4: Where's a wisdom from Martin Luther King? This is my story,

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Speaker 3: My mother was an actor, poet, acting teacher, and then

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Speaker 4: Still wasn't you know, it wasn't as horrible as that.

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Speaker 4: Get out of there.

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Speaker 3: So let's say eleven to thirteen. I was in eleven

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Speaker 4: They stayed, the whole family, and I moved with the family.

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Speaker 4: Just I was, you know, I was raised riot because

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Speaker 4: It was like horrible, my god, oh, I mean and

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Speaker 4: We numb tucks, nun chuck numb tucks, numb chucks, numbchucks.

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Speaker 3: I said, yeah, I'm not living here anymore. Get me

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Speaker 5: Until they stayed.

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Speaker 4: They moved to uh, Chicago. So so back to you

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Speaker 3: It's like it's a beautiful thing. It's like it's almost

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Speaker 3: It's not a case you can be any religion in it.

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Speaker 5: You can be Christian or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You just need to believe in I'm butchering this, but

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Speaker 3: All it really is. But then there's so many people

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Speaker 2: Just like, you know, do you think that there was

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Speaker 5: Why do communes always go bad?

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Speaker 3: I think they wanted to, like you know, live cheaply,

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Speaker 3: Then my mother, you know, the day she died, like

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Speaker 4: It is light. That's all it really is. It's a

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Speaker 4: That's all.

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Speaker 3: It's just it's a kind of a spiritual prayer thing

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Speaker 6: I mean I.

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Speaker 4: And it's beautiful. Do I practice it? And sometimes like

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Speaker 3: And I got to tell you, my brother Rich would

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Speaker 3: It's not a it's a it's a core of just

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Speaker 3: Like I've always been super intuitive and I'm an EmPATH

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to study it now.

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Speaker 4: Great, it's like it's beautiful. It's not so.

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Speaker 3: and that did exist, unfortunately, and so like there was

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Speaker 4: Hell out of there. I mean, I got I got

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Speaker 5: Power on my fist that's the way.

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Speaker 3: So then I was like, okay, I'm done. And then

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Speaker 4: It was bad.

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Speaker 4: Like even the people that were there.

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Speaker 3: That's why it took my mother a long time to

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Speaker 3: you know, put it on our kids, and and a

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Speaker 3: lot of people were like that, like they just you know,

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Speaker 3: they were young, like, you know, my mom had me

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Speaker 4: And it takes a long time to get to how

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Speaker 4: old do you do you mind me? Assy?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I mean of your young thirty nine?

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Speaker 3: Oh you are okay, thirty five?

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Speaker 4: Oh you guys look so much younger.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, I will love to be your mother's case.

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Speaker 5: Well, you look younger than us, so you fuck off.

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Speaker 4: The skincarecter.

445
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, seriously. Was there drugs on the commune?

446
00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,199
Speaker 4: Oh? Well, so I grew up with.

447
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 3: A father who was a potheads like four years then

448
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 3: he got really super sober, like he was like mister

449
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 3: you know twelve step like you know so and and

450
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 3: that was great, like that was really a great time.

451
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 2: For him to like did that change happen?

452
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,960
Speaker 4: I mean like, so, yes, there was, that's that there was.

453
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,920
Speaker 3: But that's not the leader his book, who was a

454
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,600
Speaker 3: leader of the you know, light brotherhood of this uh.

455
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 4: Supbood was really against oh okay, really against.

456
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: So there was a leader.

457
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,480
Speaker 4: He just lived in Indonesia.

458
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,920
Speaker 2: Oh that was like the entire religion. Yeah he was,

459
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,439
Speaker 2: but it's not a religion, okay, movement.

460
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:06,960
Speaker 4: It was just like a movement. It was just like,

461
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 4: you know, to do light things in the world. That's

462
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 4: really what it is. It's not but totally against drugs.

463
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,199
Speaker 1: Did did?

464
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,199
Speaker 3: He totally totally totally against drugs and and and because

465
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 3: he believed that they brought this energy which I kind

466
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 3: of like never got until this time in my life

467
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: where I was like, that's like I just don't feel great,

468
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: So why am I?

469
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 4: And I never do it that much anyway. I was

470
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: never an addict. I'm just addicted to addicts, right, Oh God.

471
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 3: I.

472
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 2: Love that.

473
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 3: I always I always fall in love with, you know,

474
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: people who I've got an alcohol issue or something like,

475
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm always with the guy that's.

476
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 4: Like, oh no, it's not an issue, but you know,

477
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 4: it changes their personalities.

478
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 5: Like would they have you give them money?

479
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that, no, no, no, no, wow. So

480
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 4: what was he It was just really getting giving, like

481
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 4: giving this so he's like a little Jesus. It was

482
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 4: like it was just giving. It was just what he

483
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 4: didn't think of. So he was just giving this gifted people.

484
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 3: And you know, I think living on the car immune

485
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: everybody just kind of paid rent to be in this place.

486
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like, you know, it wasn't like take

487
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 3: our money and you know we're living, you know, in

488
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 3: a beautiful with a private jet life.

489
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 4: It really was. He did come busy. He didn't come visit. Okay,

490
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: my mother went there a lot. She went, she went,

491
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 4: she went to Indonesia once and left me with the kids.

492
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 5: Like I was like, god, I went to visit them.

493
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,160
Speaker 4: Wow, I was fourteen, like we were back in Chicago,

494
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 4: and left me taking care of the kids.

495
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: Like fourteen.

496
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,679
Speaker 4: Oh was funny.

497
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: Aside from him who's like far away, there's not like

498
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,359
Speaker 2: someone actually guiding the everyday dynamics.

499
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 3: No, but that's why it reakd t havevoc because everybody

500
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,520
Speaker 3: just just like we're living in this you know, beautiful area,

501
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: but uh, you know, everybody's got their dysfunction and they're

502
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 3: not dealing with it.

503
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 4: How many people were there at the time, I don't know.

504
00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 4: I should have asked my family. I think it was

505
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 4: like fifty years.

506
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, it sounds so fun.

507
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: It was so fun for the kids.

508
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 5: Oh god, the loneliest childhood.

509
00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: Well you did.

510
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: We were like because there was Fiddler on the roof

511
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 3: was playing the only movie theater in town. And so

512
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 3: we saw watched Fiddler on the Roof and came home

513
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 3: and decided, like all the kids, we'd like build our

514
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: own Anatefka.

515
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: And it was very funny. We played, you know, like

516
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 4: we made our own little village.

517
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 3: You know, with you know, tarps and funny things and

518
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 3: and pretty suddenly they were like living like little peasants

519
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:23,400
Speaker 3: in on Atefka.

520
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 4: It was like we had great imagination. Like it was beautiful.

521
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: I mean if you literally live at a summer camp,

522
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 2: I feel like it's heaven.

523
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: And my family, the kids, like my dad was in

524
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: a band called the sky Monters, which is actually a

525
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 3: great record that you can track down that Hamilton Camp

526
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 3: is on it. It was on it was on Asylum Records,

527
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: so they were I was on Asylum, and so my

528
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 3: dad is on in that band. They would tour and stuff,

529
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: and I think my dad and those guys who most

530
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 3: were all the sky mont basically paid for the everybody

531
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 3: to like live and stuff. And then there was a

532
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: really amazing play that Paul Sills directed called The Story Theater,

533
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 3: which was on Broadway one temp Tony's and stuff and

534
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 3: camp il Camp was in there that my dad was

535
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: understudy for that. I lived in the Chelsea Hotel while

536
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: he was doing that for a little while while the

537
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: family was I went to visit him. And when you

538
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 3: read like just kids, it's like, oh my god. I

539
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 3: was there when Patty Smith was there as a kid.

540
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: But like I was like Elowie's of the of the

541
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 3: Chelsea you know, I wish I look can I wish

542
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 3: I could say I remember Patty Smith wing they're liking.

543
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what, but I just do it.

544
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 3: But I was in that in that my brother Richmond,

545
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 3: and I would go and visit my dad and there

546
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 3: was a couple of times that I went by myself,

547
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: which was cool.

548
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 2: That's I mean, you were a part of so many

549
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: important and interesting movements as a kid, which I feel like.

550
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 3: That's why music like rock festivals, I feel so at home,

551
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 3: you know at a festival like I used to shoot

552
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: the backstage interviews like you guys are doing here for

553
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: Cochella for many years, Yeah, with the artist backstage, And

554
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 3: I did that for a long time and about six years,

555
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 3: and I loved it.

556
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: Was my favorite job I've ever had.

557
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 5: Wow, that's awesome.

558
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, after all that come. My father was an actor,

559
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 3: mother acting teacher. We moved to Los Angeles. We just

560
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,879
Speaker 3: we get the big, beautiful gower house that just got sold,

561
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 3: which is really sad but amazing because my and my

562
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 3: brother Richmond lived there for a long time and kind of.

563
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 4: Refurbished and it was really beautiful and just sold.

564
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 3: And he's he's gone off to move to another state

565
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 3: and is very happy where he is right now and

566
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: just needed to get out of here.

567
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 4: But that was like the family home and it, you know,

568
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 4: just closed last week and it's like, wow, yeah, it's

569
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 4: really changed my mom. You know, like, yeah, it's beautiful.

570
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: So you have this childhood and you spend some time

571
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: on this commune, but for you, it's not like a

572
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: negative experience on the commune.

573
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 4: Really, it was never.

574
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: In fact, it's one of the beautiful childhood memories I

575
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: have of my childhood. I would say that time was

576
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: really amazing within the where we were in our safe, beautiful,

577
00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 3: loving kind space in Skymont, but when we had to

578
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: deal with the town, it was horrible and really good

579
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: people and then there were dysfunctional people like.

580
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: There are anywhere in our childhood. But that came there

581
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 4: and thought, you know.

582
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 3: That like really needed to maybe be you know somewhere

583
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: else mental health, mental health therapy, and on medication.

584
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of people like that,

585
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: but negative about the movement itself.

586
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: No, no, they're really I don't have anything negative about

587
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: because it wasn't like Children of Godfire.

588
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 4: It wasn't. It wasn't it wasn't any of that kind.

589
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 1: There's no like or you know the reason I thought

590
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 1: it was before I started, and I'm so happy that

591
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't.

592
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 3: But a lot of people, you know, because the arcades

593
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 3: and then you've got the Phoenixes and they had the children.

594
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 3: It's just that we grew up in a very hippie

595
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,680
Speaker 3: but we didn't have like, you know, having having to

596
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: have sex with the you know, the cult leaders.

597
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 4: And there was none of that. No, no, no, it

598
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 4: was really just more like going to India and meditating

599
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: with Ama or something. It was that kind of vibe,

600
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean of the era. Yeah.

601
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't dark.

602
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 4: It wasn't dark at all. The town was dark. What

603
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 4: we had to deal with outside of it, you know,

604
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 4: it was dark.

605
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: And then there were just very dysfunctional people within it

606
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 3: that came to try to heal themselves. That really needed

607
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 3: more than just you know, a spiritual path. They needed

608
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: to go be on medication and like, right, so there

609
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: were you know, there were a few.

610
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 4: Of those people, like there are anywhere. Yeah, but the

611
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 4: experience of that was very beautiful time in my life.

612
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: You know, I want to know a little bit more

613
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,639
Speaker 2: about your parents' journey of healing because I feel like

614
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 2: we hear stories of abuse a lot where people don't

615
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: really get to the healing part with their parents or

616
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: their abuser, and it's really Yeah, it's really cool to

617
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: know that they that your parents like did the work

618
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: of healing themselves. And I just I'm curious when that

619
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: happened and what that kind of looked like.

620
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 3: So my mom was horribly abused growing up, and so

621
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 3: she kind of transferred that. I think it got better

622
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: and better with each kid. I'm the eldest, so I

623
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: think Richmond and I got a huge brunt of stuff.

624
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 3: Not to say that everybody had a little bit of it,

625
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: but she was super physically violent, verbally violent, and emotionally violent,

626
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: and and she had this kind of uh, well, I

627
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: think it really it came when she got cancer and

628
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: she she a little before she was you know, discovering

629
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: and studying psychology and everything, that she really herself had

630
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 3: this abuse that she had blocked out that was like brutal,

631
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 3: you know.

632
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: Childish like sexual sexual assault.

633
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: Abuse that she had put away so like it was

634
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 3: manifesting itself into violence against you know, the world and

635
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 3: her kids, especially.

636
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 4: Me and Richmond, and and then and then but then

637
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 4: you know she got to this place by working.

638
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 3: Like really working on herself and understanding where that came from,

639
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 3: healing with us all, you know, uh, and and and

640
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 3: that that's the thing is like the root cause, Like

641
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 3: I I even have the root cause of of people

642
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: like Harvey Weinstein, Like how he got to be this

643
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: guy who does this even though he denies it, but

644
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 3: he did trust me.

645
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Speaker 2: and situations. You had this amazing beginning to your career.

671
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 2: You starred in Desperately Seeking Susan with Madonna. You're the

672
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Speaker 2: star of that movie. You're so good in that movie.

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Speaker 4: Thank you?

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Speaker 2: What how did the next few years transpire?

675
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Speaker 4: Forty year anniversary? Because she's going on tour for forty years.

676
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 4: It was exactly like, wow, forty years older than you both.

677
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Speaker 4: Thank you wild Yeah it is.

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Speaker 2: We read a detail that you said in an interview

679
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Speaker 2: about how you were not supposed to go to your

680
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Speaker 2: premiere of that movie.

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Speaker 3: So at the time of it, when they were uh,

682
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Speaker 3: when we were shooting it, and then they had the

683
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Speaker 3: big premiere of it, I was sent to New York

684
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Speaker 3: to do press for it, like go on the morning shows.

685
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Speaker 3: And then they had Madonna come and you know, in

686
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Speaker 3: a catalog and the red carpet and do this whole thing.

687
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Speaker 4: And probably that was set up by you know, who

688
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Speaker 4: knows it was, but I just remember, like, what's happened?

689
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Speaker 3: Like what?

690
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Speaker 4: And it was the first thing that's that was so mean?

691
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Speaker 4: I got my feelings.

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Speaker 2: Do you not get so sult Basically Madonna was the

693
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Speaker 2: one doing all the press work.

694
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Speaker 4: No, no, no, I I actually did.

695
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Speaker 3: Do the leather press, but they she did the openings

696
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Speaker 3: of the you know, the big you know opening of it.

697
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Speaker 4: But it ended up being you know, it's.

698
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Speaker 3: Fine, like I want to British Academy work for it

699
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Speaker 3: and got nominate Glow and Globe and I was and

700
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Speaker 3: it was all fine and good and you know she's, uh,

701
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Speaker 3: she's Madonna.

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Speaker 4: You know, she said, I want to go, I just

703
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Speaker 4: let go, and she kind of I definitely want to go. Yeah,

704
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Speaker 4: I definitely want to go. I want to see it.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be great, it's gonna

706
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Speaker 4: be it's gonna be fun. Yeah, totally. I mean, like

707
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Speaker 4: she's you know, she's an icon, she's a Madonna.

708
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Speaker 3: She's like she changed the you know, she's the biggest

709
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Speaker 3: selling woman in the you know, in music.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

711
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Speaker 5: Still, I mean she's a legend.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, total. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But so then you you start doing movies and you're

714
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Speaker 2: in you were also i mean a few years later,

715
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Speaker 2: but you were also in Pull Fiction. Like I said,

716
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: you were in Cordnerberg's Crash. At what point exactly did

717
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Speaker 2: you have the interaction with Harvey Weinstein in which she

718
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Speaker 2: threatened you.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I mean, I just like that. That's what's

720
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Speaker 4: so sad about Like it's it. Well, there was this

721
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Speaker 4: movie called Romeo's.

722
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Speaker 3: Bleeding that he ended up not producing. That is why

723
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Speaker 3: I went to so whenever that is he ended up

724
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Speaker 3: not doing. But I went to the Beverly Hills Hotel

725
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Speaker 3: because I was supposed to do it with Gary Oldman.

726
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Speaker 3: Annabella Shore ended up doing it. She's one of the

727
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Speaker 3: women that talked with Ronan helped her to do that.

728
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Speaker 3: But I was told that I was going to have

729
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Speaker 3: a news script there.

730
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Speaker 4: They wanted me to do it. I met him.

731
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Speaker 3: I went to the Beverly Hills Hotel and they said

732
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Speaker 3: mister Whysley was see upstairs. The first thought was like,

733
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Speaker 3: em like upstairs and oh no, he's got the apartment,

734
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Speaker 3: you know.

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Speaker 5: He which I would think too, like I've had things

736
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Speaker 5: like that happened that have been normal.

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Speaker 1: He's up intel and you go up and there's like

738
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Speaker 1: a hundred people there, always like you thought you're just

739
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Speaker 1: gonna go to hotel room.

740
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he opened the door in his white bathrobe

741
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Speaker 3: and and there was it was like and and he goes,

742
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Speaker 3: I can't move my neck.

743
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Speaker 4: I can't move my neck. And I was like, oh, well,

744
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: you know. Then I started I could feel danger. Danger.

745
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: I had that voice that said danger, which didn't bring

746
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Speaker 3: me fully into that room. I kind of stayed in

747
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Speaker 3: the door jam and he was still doing this because

748
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Speaker 3: I get I can get you, miss SUSI because no, no, no, no,

749
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Speaker 3: Asana like he's in the door. I'm like right here,

750
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Speaker 3: and takes my hand, pulls it down to his you

751
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Speaker 3: know whatever penis that apparently it's.

752
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Speaker 4: Like but I don't. This is a long time ago,

753
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 4: so like but it was there was an issue there,

754
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Speaker 4: like it was.

755
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Speaker 3: I think it's not where a lot of people so

756
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Speaker 3: like it because it did have an erection sticking out

757
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Speaker 3: of the robe. I ranked it away and and people

758
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Speaker 3: these days have you know, like it's like I had

759
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Speaker 3: a he has some kind of disease or something. So

760
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Speaker 3: his mind is like a long long time ago. And

761
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: I said, he goes, You're making a very big mistake, Rosanna.

762
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Speaker 3: Look what I've done for Gwyneth Paltrow and and Elle McPherson.

763
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Speaker 3: Now Gwyneth is one of the women that came out

764
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Speaker 3: and you know in the she said Jody cantered uh

765
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Speaker 3: reporting against.

766
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Speaker 4: Him, So he's a liar and he was lying.

767
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Speaker 3: He was lying about her to she just want, you know,

768
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Speaker 3: like if she just you know, like when it is

769
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Speaker 3: winter the year, it's like it's I think it's like

770
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Speaker 3: the very early nineties, like like late the beginning of nine.

771
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Speaker 3: It's it's in that time when I called my agent

772
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Speaker 3: at the time.

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Speaker 4: She didn't want me to get involved. She didn't remember,

774
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Speaker 4: like so like she.

775
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Speaker 3: Didn't want to be like it was interesting how many

776
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Speaker 3: people did kind of like, well, Jesus, this did happen,

777
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Speaker 3: so you better keep your momus show.

778
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Speaker 4: You gotta be careful, you know. So I've told people

779
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Speaker 4: through the years and and.

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Speaker 3: They remember that one being Jane Fonda was a great

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Speaker 3: friend of mine, and and l I and U and

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Speaker 3: uh so, yeah, people remember you know that I.

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Speaker 5: Did did you just kind of turn around walk away?

784
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Speaker 3: And I got to the bottom of the elevator, and

785
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Speaker 3: I knew that my career was going to be different

786
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Speaker 3: from them, and it was, Yeah, it was because I

787
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Speaker 3: was whatever, like whatever the list is.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: There was an A list, B lists, he lists. I

790
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Speaker 4: was at the top of the A list for quite

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Speaker 4: a lot long time. And then it and then it did.

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Speaker 3: It did impact me because and you can read about

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Speaker 3: what he does, because he would punish you for that

794
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Speaker 3: difficult big time. And that was like, you know, I've

795
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Speaker 3: worked with the greatest directors in the world and you know,

796
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, uh that was like he he

797
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: would do that.

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Speaker 4: He did it to Mira. He did it mir Zuvino.

799
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Speaker 3: He did it to many of us, and there's so many,

800
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Speaker 3: you know, great wonderful women that he did this too

801
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Speaker 3: and tried to destroy. Mirror was a you know, uh

802
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Speaker 3: Oscar winning actress.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how did it feel telling that story after your

804
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: life was impacted by that for so long?

805
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 4: So it was so terrifying. Well, I talked to you know, Ronan,

806
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: who I love Ronan Farao. His book is amazing.

807
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 3: His book is the real deal. It was kind of weird,

808
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: like I thought, like, oh wow, they showed in the

809
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: she said, which you know, I love the actresses playing it,

810
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 3: but uh but you know they had the voice, they

811
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Speaker 3: had the amber guitarists, uh Amber Amber guteris.

812
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 4: Uh her her she was wired by the police, and

813
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: you know they played that in the movie. But that

814
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 4: was actually, you know ron It. It was Ronas reporting

815
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: that exposed that because he had the tape of it.

816
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: He's the one that exposed that. So it's like it

817
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: bothered me. It's like, wait a minute, hold on, that's

818
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Speaker 4: not your reporting. That's not that's not that's that was

819
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Speaker 4: Ronan Fara's reporting.

820
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Speaker 3: And there they both shared the pulit surprise. I went

821
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Speaker 3: with Ronan to get it and uh and uh and

822
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: so it was kind of like that's not fair. And

823
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Speaker 3: I think that his book is so extraordinary and would

824
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Speaker 3: have made it really incredible movie.

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00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: You know.

826
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Speaker 4: I love the actresses though there in that movie. Both

827
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: of them were fantastic. But it was it was scary.

828
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 2: But did it feel like did you feel like, Okay,

829
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Speaker 2: this is finally coming out, like finally something is changing,

830
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, I feel like this you are

831
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Speaker 2: a part of the thing that like blew.

832
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Speaker 5: Up the culture, you know, Like what is that?

833
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 3: Like, I mean it was and it happened on Twitter

834
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 3: and that's what that was where the town Square the

835
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 3: great part of Twitter where like.

836
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 4: We were able to like you know, had we not

837
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Speaker 4: had that that to be able to do that across

838
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Speaker 4: the world.

839
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Speaker 1: How do we help deconstruct the cult of Hollywood a

840
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: little bit? Like where do we Is there anything we

841
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: can do?

842
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: Since well, I think it's happening now, Like I think

843
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 3: it's kind of you know, just just uh, I don't

844
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: I don't know Hollywood, Like I don't think it's I

845
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 3: think for me, Hollywood is not.

846
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: Really a cult. I think there's like like really unhealthy

847
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 4: people within this.

848
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Creative, incredible artists that are like making you know, films

849
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 3: that can change your lives or like, you know, just

850
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 3: making crap that's just violent and you know, like you know,

851
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: another slashing thing, but which is.

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00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 4: Not you know, there's a whole audience with that God

853
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: knows and and and it does really well.

854
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 3: But but the people that I know, and I've been

855
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: really fortunate to know that I like that are in

856
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: my life or you know, some of the most badass,

857
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: amazing women in the business who are the most extraordinary actors.

858
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 3: I you know, and the independent film world is really

859
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 3: important and and for for it's like it's really important.

860
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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you.

861
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,800
Speaker 3: Saw too Leslie with Andrea Riseborough, there's a whole She

862
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 3: just got nominated for Best Actress and she deserves it.

863
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: She's an incredible actress. But you know, the Oscar.

864
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: Nominations came out and not one woman director who was nominated,

865
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Speaker 3: and that's crazy.

866
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: Like so we still have a long way to go.

867
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,319
Speaker 3: And we and and we got to like all these

868
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 3: important issues that come up to the surface, and now

869
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: we have to figure out like the way to like

870
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: let's get let's get let's get back to the art

871
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 3: of it. And it's a small little independent film that

872
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: they did in nineteen days, you know, during COVID isolation.

873
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: So it's like there's there's that, you know.

874
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: Michael Morris directed it, who's an extraordinary director.

875
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 4: Mark Maron is in it.

876
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 3: And he's so I love him so much. I I

877
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: just love him, and he is extraordinary as an actor

878
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: in it.

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00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 2: I like what you're saying about Hollywood. Hollywood isn't occult exactly.

880
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: And the commune point is interesting. It's like it attracts

881
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: all kinds of personalities and there are so many different

882
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: communities within this like much larger thing.

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00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 4: Narciss there's huge, huge narcisses. Look at it.

884
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 3: There there are two the conglomerates that have bought into

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Speaker 3: like there's foreign entities that have put a lot of

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Speaker 3: money into this business so they can control the narrative.

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Speaker 3: That's dangerous to me, it is, yeah, And so I'm

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Speaker 3: worried about that, you know. But so I hope that

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Speaker 3: we can just get back to the you know, Joni

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Speaker 3: Mitchell and we got to get herself back into the garden.

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Speaker 4: I mean it is that in terms of creativity, and

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Speaker 4: I hope we can do that.

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Speaker 3: But when you have like Saudi money, like oh, this

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Speaker 3: is like you know that they're controlling, they own they

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Speaker 3: control the narrative.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, it's dangerous.

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Speaker 2: When it's run by a capitalist society that has a

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Speaker 2: financial bottom line as opposed to a storytelling and art

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Speaker 2: being a priority. That is when things can become cutthroat

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Speaker 2: and corrupt and dangerous.

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Speaker 3: Right And like you know, there's because of the awareness

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Speaker 3: of diversity, like you know, and we have powerful, amazing

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Speaker 3: women in the business, especially like Aviad Deverne, Like she's

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Speaker 3: done story Like she has a company, she has all

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Speaker 3: these creative people that come and she helps young filmmakers

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Speaker 3: and like more of that we need and she's like,

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Speaker 3: you know number one in that and we need like

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Speaker 3: you know, hundreds, you know.

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Speaker 4: And that needs to happen.

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Speaker 3: It's happening slowly but surely. But you know, women, not

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Speaker 3: one woman being nominated. I me, Sarah Polly's movie is amazing.

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Speaker 3: You know, she just wrote a book Run Towards Danger

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Speaker 3: Like she's an extraordinary filmmaker.

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Speaker 5: Just on the top of every piece of art.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 3: But I mean I think she's like she's she's a

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Speaker 3: great writer and she directed a powerful important movie women

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Speaker 3: talking that you know that I would have loved to see.

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Speaker 4: I mean that a little more of that, you know.

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Speaker 4: So this is to be continued.

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Speaker 2: You've been a part of the change for your whole life,

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Speaker 2: and it seems like you will continue.

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Speaker 4: I'm continuing this. You know.

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Speaker 3: They do everything to shut me up, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I know it affects me, but I'm just not able to.

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Speaker 2: But a great note to end on. And then do

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Speaker 2: you have anything that you want to promote.

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Speaker 3: I did a couple of things, like The Big Sky,

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Speaker 3: a show called Big Sky that I have an arc on.

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Speaker 3: I did this Palt Goldman that's on Peacock. I just

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Speaker 3: did a movie with We're gonna talk about my career.

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Speaker 3: It's with the Julia Roman, who I love very much,

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Speaker 3: and Kevin Pollack and a guy named Joe Cortesi and

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Speaker 3: called Here's Yanni.

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Speaker 4: So you know I'm working amazing. Hell yeah, little, you know, working,

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Speaker 4: But you know I'm ready to go do a series

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Speaker 4: and have fun. I'm ready for that one. Yeah me too.

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Speaker 5: Go check her out on Instagram and everything she just mentioned.

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Speaker 5: And we cannot thank you enough for being here today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you both so much, Thank you great, so Megan. Yes,

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Speaker 2: So in terms of the subid community that Rosanna grew

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Speaker 2: up on, do you think that that's something that you

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Speaker 2: would join.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think so. I'm very into communes. I'm

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Speaker 1: very into uh living with a bunch of people. But

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Speaker 1: that and specific just doesn't really ring my bells. I

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Speaker 1: think it's in the middle of too much of nowhere

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Speaker 1: and just a little too many people crammed into the

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Speaker 1: same spot. And you know, it doesn't sound like my

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Speaker 1: jam exactly.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually surprised. I thought you were going to say it.

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Speaker 2: Did it sounded like such a Megan thing. No, it's artists,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's like a choose your own spirituality. I

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Speaker 2: mean no, no, okay, see for me, not the crowded part,

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Speaker 2: not like cramped into little rooms exactly.

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Speaker 1: I'm a little bit that's a little bit more like

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Speaker 1: camping and I need to go glamping.

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Speaker 2: I love the idea of like a remote commune where

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Speaker 2: it's all artists for sure, and it's nature. But I like,

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Speaker 2: so if I could get my own like cabin or with.

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Speaker 1: Like heat and you know, like the necessities, they were

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Speaker 1: really sure, you're really really really.

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Speaker 2: Like so this the commune her commune, but like with

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Speaker 2: an upgrade, with like a modernization.

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Speaker 6: Okay, done, sold me too, salt. All right, that's it,

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Speaker 6: we did it. Thank you guys so much for being

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Speaker 6: here for another week. We have have lots of good

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Speaker 6: stuff for you next week. We can't wait to see.

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Speaker 1: You there, and as always, remember to follow your gut,

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Speaker 1: watch out for rad flex and never ever trust me.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye. Trust Me as produced by Kirsten Woodward, Gabby

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Speaker 2: Rapp and Steve Delemator.

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Speaker 1: With special thanks to Stacy Para and her theme song

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Speaker 1: was composed by Holly amber Church. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on Instagram at trust Me Podcast, Twitter at trust Me

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Speaker 1: Cult pod, or on TikTok at trust Me Cult Podcast.

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