WEBVTT - Players Lounge_12_17.mp3 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:04.720 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:06.320 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.640 --> 0:00:09.440 Cowboys. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:16.440 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:21.960 World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church, 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:24.520 Hecma Harrison and New. 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:25.320 He scrugs. 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:36.599 Players Lounge coming at you on a Tuesday, off day 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:38.360 for the Cowboys, but not an off day for us. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.000 We do it all the time, five days a week 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:42.519 right here on the Players Lounge. You brought to you 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.320 by rus Crack Game. We got Heck Maharson here, former 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:45.440 Cowboys at to Barry Church. 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:46.960 I am New. He scrugs. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:49.960 Lots of topics to get to today, but one topic 0:00:50.000 --> 0:00:51.080 we didn't touch on yesterday. 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.240 Let's get into one. Cooper Rush. No, no, you know 0:00:55.320 --> 0:01:01.639 what Cooper trying to make a sny remark to. 0:01:03.600 --> 0:01:03.640 That. 0:01:05.400 --> 0:01:07.800 Uh BC is the quarterback guru. 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.839 Yeah, let BC tell us about what he thinks about 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.000 what we should do in the quarterback man. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.920 He wants cut for be cut for Garrett Gilbert, but 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:18.520 he did him dirty back then. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:24.880 Yeah, yeah, so what you got man? You can see 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:30.039 I'm torn. I'm torn right now because Cooper Rush, He's 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:32.360 the definition of what a backup should be able to 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:34.880 do if you need him for one or two games, 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.880 maybe even three, he can get He could rally off 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:40.199 a two on one record, maybe a three and oh record, 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:43.480 And that's exactly what the backup quarterback position is supposed 0:01:43.480 --> 0:01:46.480 to do. Coming there, your play is not that far 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:48.600 off from the starter. You know, you can keep the 0:01:48.640 --> 0:01:51.680 same playbook and you can go out there and be productive. 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:56.320 So I'm torn between that and do we want to 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:59.840 see something else? Can we upgrade that position at the 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:01.120 quarterback backup position? 0:02:01.720 --> 0:02:03.360 And it's just took because I'm like, who else you 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:03.800 gonna go. 0:02:03.720 --> 0:02:07.600 Out there and grab that has the same capabilities of 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:08.520 a Cooper Rush to go out there? 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.800 His record is what eight and something through seven and 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.640 three eight three, I'm crazy when he's in there. So 0:02:13.680 --> 0:02:15.560 it's like, man, I'm torn between it. 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.639 But then I also see games where he threw for 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.600 forty five yards where the offense looked, you know, a 0:02:20.680 --> 0:02:22.960 knee nick out there, just didn't know what they were doing. 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:25.120 So I'm torn between it because I don't think you 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:27.760 can upgrade that significantly from a Cooper Rush. 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.400 But if he's going out there asking for. 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:33.720 You know, eight million, nine million to be a backup, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:34.680 then I think. 0:02:34.520 --> 0:02:36.440 You gotta you gotta go ahead and move along. 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:38.920 But if he's asking for that same five, you know, 0:02:39.240 --> 0:02:40.880 then I don't have a problem bringing him back. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:44.320 Look, my thing is is that Barry, I can't I 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:47.600 can't name three five backup quarterbacks right now in the NFL. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:48.560 And that's for a reason. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:52.040 It's the reason is is that you pay your number 0:02:52.080 --> 0:02:55.920 one guy the most of your cap, and you expect 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:57.280 for him to be able to lead you. 0:02:58.160 --> 0:02:59.960 The backup guy is after. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:03.680 Thet until you get till your number one gets hurt 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:09.440 at Boom you walked in there for the Seahawks. But no, 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.920 the what I'm what I'm trying to break down is 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:13.600 the fact that when you go to your second, your 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:17.480 second guy, it's only for just a little amount. Give 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.440 me five games, brother, while God gets healthy. In the 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.880 Dallas situation, man, where guy's having to carry you for 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:24.600 the rest of the season, it can't be good. But 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.639 he's fourteen hundred yards, ten touches, ten touchdowns and three interceptions. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:37.560 And so I listen, and so I was listening to 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:38.040 the interview. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:40.720 I was listening to the interview this morning one on 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:45.360 five three the Fan okay, and Jerry, And Jerry comes 0:03:45.400 --> 0:03:47.360 on and he's talking about he's given trying to give 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.960 praise to Rico Dawdle about the job that Rico is doing, 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:56.080 but he even gave credit to Cooper Rush for the 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:59.080 job that he did at the line of scrimmage. And 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:01.240 I was like, I was trying out like, like you know, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.600 just trying to correlate how that happens in the football censor. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:06.120 He's recognizing something that the line of scrimmag she's making 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:09.520 calls whatever. So Cooper Rush is good for the running game, Okay, 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:14.000 all right, But needless to say, in those close games 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.320 when we needed, like to pull the Cincinnati game in 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:20.039 the red zone, There's so many different things that I 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:21.640 can point to when I'm looking at him, and I'm 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:25.359 going to do it. Just seems like like Jameis Winston 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.599 is prone to giving you the ball, Cooper Rush is 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.480 prone to making mistakes in the red zone. And that's 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:35.080 the thing that I think has me looking around saying, Okay, 0:04:35.480 --> 0:04:38.080 now we might need to find somebody else in this situation, 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:40.000 because if we have to have him come in for 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.559 five games, Let's say, if those five games are games 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.039 that you need back when Jag was playing those games 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:48.400 you had to win, you need him just to step 0:04:48.440 --> 0:04:50.799 in for a little while. Do we trust him still 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.840 in that capacity even with the good record that you're 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.479 talking about, right, I'm just look, there's just been some 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.320 question marks to his game that I still say, like, 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.080 come on, man, you late throwing behind like you're just 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:03.279 throwing into traffic. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:05.200 Now at this point, at this point, you got it. 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.760 He has three interceptions, He's probably to have about seven, 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:10.800 you know, but it hadn't been perfect. It hadn't been 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.440 perfect science with Cooper Rush. So yeah, I don't know. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.000 I'm really on the fence. But if I have to decide, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.440 I say no, I go, I go to the I 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.560 started looking. I started looking for a backup. 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.040 Red zone turnovers are too much for me, just too much. 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:28.120 Saw it in Cincinnati, saw it in Carolina. You've been 0:05:28.160 --> 0:05:30.479 in the league too long for too many years to 0:05:30.520 --> 0:05:35.080 have this keep happening. And the first question we really 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.360 have to ask ourselves who's coaching this team next year, 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.320 Because depending on who you have as a coach, they're 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.720 going to determine whether or not they see this guy 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:47.920 working for them. So that's really the biggest thing right now, 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:52.720 what offense are you running? Who comes in here? Look, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.920 he's not a magician. I've always said that it's quarterback, 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.640 not a magician. And the more positive pieces you have 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:00.559 around it, clearly it's been better for him his career. 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:07.440 It's Carolina Panthers. Guys, okay, three touchdown, It's the Panthers. 0:06:07.880 --> 0:06:10.560 It's pac Man Jones famously want to say, it's the Rams. 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:14.080 Dude, don't get carried away. It's the Panthers. 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.360 The week before that, you got close, you couldn't get 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.520 it done. It was a bad Cincinnati defense. Guess what 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.400 happens the next three game? I turn up, not to 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:27.839 turn up. So he may answer the questions for you 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.599 either way in the next three football games. Because all 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.120 three teams, two teams are in first place and the 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:35.600 other one is right here chasing the wild card. So 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.560 these are three teams that most likely will be in 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.839 the playoffs, with Philadelphia arguably being the top team in 0:06:43.880 --> 0:06:45.200 the NFC right now. 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:48.720 So what do. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:52.760 You if, and it's an if, if Mike McCarthy comes back, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:58.760 would you trust Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolz in the 0:06:58.760 --> 0:07:01.520 backup quarterback and say, hey, man, go make another Cooper Rush. 0:07:01.920 --> 0:07:03.200 Because Cooper Rush is a guy. 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.400 You let go, went to the Giants, came back here, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.159 you had him cut and they ended up making something 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:10.200 out of Cooper Rush. 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:11.680 They really did. 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:13.520 I give them as a coaching staff a lot of credit. 0:07:13.520 --> 0:07:14.160 Could do it again. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:16.800 I don't know if Trey Lance is going to be 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:17.400 the answer. 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:20.800 I don't see that. I don't know. You once upon 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:22.680 a time they see Cooper Rush either. That's true. 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:26.680 So so so let's see what happens and who else knows? 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:29.320 Who else is out there? If Cooper Rush plays good 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.559 these last three games, well guess what somebody's gonna knocking 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:34.560 on his door. And to hear Stevid Jones talk about 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:36.560 the titans of the persons around here, you may not 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.880 be able to afford him. He could price himself out 0:07:39.280 --> 0:07:42.160 of a job. Ricco'donald could price himself out of a job. 0:07:42.920 --> 0:07:45.600 And then you want to know, let's use that forefront. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:08:03.000 Oh no, and look what I what have we seen 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:06.400 in the NFL? You can go find some guys out here, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:10.400 you can. And this is this is where your coaching 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.880 staff comes into play. That's why I really believe the 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.600 whole thing starts to stem with two things. One who's 0:08:15.600 --> 0:08:18.080 your coaching staff? And two what's the market for Cooper Rush? 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.360 Yeah, because he's got to be one of the highest 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.240 paid backups, right, you gotta be. 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.680 I don't know if he's making that Chase stand anymorey, 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.000 I don't know. I don't know if he's finessing. 0:08:28.120 --> 0:08:32.280 Yes, I can't. I can't chase. He might be right 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.160 up there. He might be right up there. It might 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:35.200 be a little bit. 0:08:35.600 --> 0:08:37.760 I mean, dude, you got you got, you got your 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.440 third string quarterback in five million. 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.720 When you say pricing himself out, do you say pricing 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:43.560 itself out as a backup somewhere else? 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:47.640 I mean, as as pricing himself out to the Cowboys 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.560 say we don't want to pay that number for our backup. Okay, yeah, 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:52.720 it's not like Tyler Bias. Hey, we like you, but 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:56.200 not at ten million dollars. So these next three games, 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:58.520 if he plays well these next three games, and somebody 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.960 else says, hey, look, we'll pay that number for that guy, 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.160 and the Cowboys deemon, that's too much. I mean, this 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:06.480 is what they do. You know very well. 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:11.720 You sat there myself, right, this this is our right. 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.079 So they would they would hey, hey, young. 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:19.520 Fellow and you like, brother, what is it? 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.640 I mean, that's that's that's the truth. You look at 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.800 Armstrong last year. I mean the bunch of the guys 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.200 that left here last year. I think they wanted but 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:32.199 they had a number on. Look they what if they 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:34.079 told you the last couple of years of free agency, 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.160 they don't go out here to north Strom rack. They 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.160 are five and below. They are they are five and below. 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.720 Man, if you ain't one of them top like you said, 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.319 weapons offensive weapon or a guy. 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:48.200 Like Parsons man. 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.600 Jerry out there shining with a five dollar bill. 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:58.280 Five and below? Got this for you? 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.040 Got this little puzzle? Bet I need one, You bet 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:03.080 I need back up? 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.520 You know, you go for your child whose birthday is it? 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:07.600 You know, because he got fifteen million birthday. But we're 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:08.240 going to five below. 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.679 Go dollarcept right, he get. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.400 Go get him, go get him something for five things? 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:17.439 Yes, put him the bag. That's wow. So heck you 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:18.360 ain't bringing him back. 0:10:18.720 --> 0:10:20.240 Look, and I told you I was on the fence 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:22.280 on it. And the reason why is a little bit 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:24.240 of what you were saying about the coaching moves. If 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.000 you if you bring in another coaching staff is going 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.960 to be a whole nother operation anyway offensively, and he's 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:30.880 going to be looking for Cooper Rush to be making 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:34.800 different reads and learning entirely new playbook altogether. If it's 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:37.280 still Mike, Mike is going to be comfortable with Cooper 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.760 Rush and who he is as a player and maybe 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.920 bring in some other guys to compete with him. But 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.000 at the same time, he has it, he has all 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.719 the jargon, he has all the all the plays at 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.000 his disposal. To me, I think when I look at 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.200 Dak and Dak's injury, and we've been here before where 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:55.199 Cooper Rush was Andy Dalton then. But you know, we've 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.600 been in situations where Cooper Rush has come in and 0:10:57.600 --> 0:11:00.520 we han't had any we haven't had any plaints about 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.400 him because the simple size we had was a lot smaller. 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.400 Now you're like the red zone in the red zone 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:11.560 stuff is what's troubling me. You can't you can't. You 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.440 can't have those kinds of problems now. And that's a 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:17.320 blaring deficiency when you continue to do that over and 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.560 over again. But look, you look around the NFL. I 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.959 think it was two years ago when Cincinnati had a 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.360 quarterback go down, have their quarterback go down, a guy 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:27.440 comes in, he wins, you know, he comes in and wins. 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:29.480 And so it's not an exact science when it comes 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:32.559 down to who you're gonna have as the backup quarterback. 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:34.360 But I damn suould rather be. 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.320 Paying a guy that I know than a commodity that 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.200 I have no proof on what this guy can do. 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.439 And if they're gonna go to the draft and maybe 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.680 get that and you know, six seventh round and bring 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.800 a guy in, I'm alright with that. 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.520 That's the guy that's gonna compete with Cooper Rush. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:53.720 Then look at this year's playoff backup quarterback who just 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.559 signed and everybody like, okay, fine, he's he signed there, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.320 Sam Donald, and so he's got Minnesota. Now they're in 0:12:01.360 --> 0:12:04.240 the playoff, made the playoffs. But then look at the 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.960 year before, you know, when he was out there San 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.679 Francisco and beat out Trey Lance for the you know, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:10.560 four jobs. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.600 So you watched the game last night, right, I didn't. Okay, yep, 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:17.120 But Sam Donald, to you, what, how do you feel 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:18.480 about Sam Donald as a quarterback? 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.160 Just a he's a flash player to me, Like, I 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:22.920 feel like the consistency is just. 0:12:22.840 --> 0:12:24.439 Not damn something's missing something. 0:12:24.679 --> 0:12:27.680 But he's also had terrible coaching. I mean he was 0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.120 terrible coaching with the Jets. He was down there, was 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.280 he down there in Carolina for a little bit with 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:34.800 the San Francisco under Shanahan, got a little bit better. 0:12:34.640 --> 0:12:35.560 Than now he's with O'Connell. 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.240 And I mean he is balling this season twenty eight, 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:40.360 ten or thirty twos, whatever the case may be. He 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:42.400 got him eleven and two, twelve and two now, so 0:12:42.440 --> 0:12:44.160 he is balling. So maybe it was a little bit 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:46.520 on that coaching staff for those those first two spots, 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:48.640 but I just need a little bit more in order 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.319 to be like yo, Sam Donald Man, Sam Donald's garbage. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:13:00.479 Yeah, you're trying to be politically correct. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:58.120 But. 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:04.120 Who's look good with the Jets. I mean, Carolina had 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.840 Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield. Both these dudes go make 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.440 the playoffs this year and they still spind it around. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:11.600 I mean, Carolina, you you spend all that money on 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:14.320 Brince youwn they benched him this year. I mean going 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.160 through coaches, that's right. So I mean between Carolina and Yes, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.440 this is not exactly two great ownership groups going on 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:19.880 right there. 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:20.520 Now. 0:13:20.640 --> 0:13:22.800 My thing with Sam is he an elite guy. Are 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.280 you ready to sit up here and pay usdue a 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:27.880 whole bunch of money. No, But the coach just goes 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.600 back to the coach. The coach I can win with 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.800 this guy. He can run my program, he can get 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.880 what I need done. Jacoby Brissett has made a great living. 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:36.720 Out of being in. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:38.480 This. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.640 Okay, I know what you want to do. We now 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:42.920 go go mess it up and and do that. I mean, 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:46.240 but what's the cost? And that's that's the thing about 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.240 this with Cooper Rush says, hey, if this guy plays 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.360 well for three games, maybe somebody says, hey, man, I'll 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:53.200 be all right. Andy Reeves got Carson Wentz he could 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:55.680 potentially play, and a guy i'd want. 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:59.680 But but if it's. 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:01.840 One dude who says, I'll plug this guy in here, 0:14:01.920 --> 0:14:04.040 see what he can do two games and see who 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.839 have some success? Andy we I mean, dude, he spun 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.400 Jay Fidler and Jay Fiddler into a second round pick. 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.880 So you know that's why I say, who's your coaching 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.120 sab What is it this guy wants from the quarterback? 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:20.080 And what is the cost? Because the Cowboys now are 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.000 telling you we're looking at cost when it comes to 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.480 players because they are going to pay Michael Parsons. 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:28.800 I just when we're talking about him, I was watching 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:30.680 him last night and I'm like, man, dude's missing on 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:31.520 throws out here. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:33.840 You know, he's missing on throws. 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:36.680 And whatever he did is Sam Donald, whatever he did 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:40.480 in San Francisco, whatever Shanahan did to him, plugged him, 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.520 reset his control, whatever he did to him, he's a 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.200 different guy than when he was when he was with 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:46.920 the Jets. So when he was with Carolina, all right, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:49.480 But in the same breath, there are parts of his 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.880 game that you could still see. 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.680 Ah, he's not elite, So so you're gonna have that 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:56.560 because he's not elite. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:57.680 But then I come back into this. 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.360 You're Minnesota. You said, no more, Kirk, We're not paying 0:15:01.400 --> 0:15:03.880 that anymore. We're not gonna pay you all this cash. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:07.160 Just sit around here and just get us to the 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.400 same old places. And Kirk Cousins was brought in because 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.240 remember they had case Keenan. They went to the NFC 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.440 Championship game and they ended up getting beat and so 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.000 all right, we need to upgrade, they said, brought Kirk in. 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.120 They never they never went anywhere. So you got Sam. 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:19.440 They used the first round pick on J. J. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:19.920 McCarthy. 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:22.640 We forget about that Kendon one National Championship mission got hurt. 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.640 So Sam Donald's in here now. I look at the 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.400 cost that Atlanta paid fifty million for Kirk Cousins, what 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.080 they're paying Sam Donald. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.160 Take that. I mean that's a drop off. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.240 I mean the return on investment for for Minnesota is 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:40.440 outstanding right now with what they're getting out of this. 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.400 So but how do they feel a team like that, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.320 even with the record that they have going into the 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.960 playoffs with their quarterback. 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.720 You didn't expect them to make the playoffs. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.120 This year my opinion. No. 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.280 I mean, okay, if I look at that division, because 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.320 you're usually at most you're usually thinking two teams will 0:15:56.320 --> 0:16:00.360 come out of a division Detroit, that's what I I 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.440 didn't think Minnesota was going there. And then when they 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.520 took a rookie quarterback, ain't gonna do nothing. Kevin O'Connell 0:16:05.520 --> 0:16:08.920 by secretly, Kevin O'Connell I here coach balling as ahead 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.120 coach balling. So to me, I look at what they've done, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:14.600 I say, man, this is good. This is good coaching. 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.280 It's also good management. GM up there, I'll not say 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:20.240 his name, brother man, doing a good job, doing a 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.960 real good job. They didn't have to spend a lot 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.880 of money getting a whole lot of the quarterback. After 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:26.480 the year, they get to decide what they wanted today. Man, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.600 we're gonna throw you a little scratch here, or we're 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.160 gonna go with because I like what they're doing. But 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:37.080 ultimately we spring it back here to Cooper Rush. 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At the end, Yeah, man messed up many 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.719 a vacation mine, many many a vacation man. Get that 0:20:40.760 --> 0:20:43.360 flex going down by that regular season flex game when 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:45.720 there's a division game, you know, division. 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:46.400 Title on the line. Three straight? 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:47.639 Yeah, we had at the month, say we had a 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:51.120 three straight a phillyon in Washington and the Giants. 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:52.560 How'd you do? 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.880 Yeah, we didn't win those games, eight and seven ended 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:56.560 up eighty to eighty. 0:20:56.600 --> 0:20:58.440 One time I was on my anniversary and other time 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:00.159 was on my birthday, like giving up these days to 0:21:00.200 --> 0:21:01.680 watching watch you guys get out. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.800 Here to say we had Kyle Lrton one time. Remember 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:13.320 the backup Kyle Arrton was Wow, he was bad. Who 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:18.119 was party like? That was his? Yeah, yo, he was bad. 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:23.960 Matt Castle, but those were some years bro we Oh god, 0:21:24.160 --> 0:21:24.840 Kate Moore. 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:25.240 Was in there. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:34.000 No disrespect, but no he didn't lie about it. 0:21:34.520 --> 0:21:37.160 So Tampa Bay comes in here, Baker Mayfield was playing 0:21:37.160 --> 0:21:40.600 good football. They lost, Chris got with it, keep on going. 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:44.680 We talk about coaching jobs. Todd Bowles has done it. 0:21:44.800 --> 0:21:47.040 Darn good coaching jobs. About a guy that kept they 0:21:47.080 --> 0:21:49.639 kept trying to fire even after the first year he 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.240 got there when he replaced Bruce Arians. Todd is a 0:21:52.320 --> 0:21:53.080 dang good coach. 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:54.320 Was a head. 0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:56.480 I mean he was an assistant coach here with Bill 0:21:56.520 --> 0:22:01.240 Parcells coached the Jets lost his job there. That's another one. 0:22:01.280 --> 0:22:04.160 And talk about bad organizations there. We see it was 0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.440 it was him and uh there was an old podcast 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:12.760 called Hustle and Hustle and Flow with Jim Trotter and 0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:15.640 Steve Weisch and they had bowls on their bulls. Talked 0:22:15.640 --> 0:22:18.800 about the time he coached black college football and he 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:21.399 just said it was just so much he had to 0:22:21.480 --> 0:22:23.000 learn and then just things they had to do. He 0:22:23.040 --> 0:22:25.480 said he had to, uh had to be a security 0:22:25.480 --> 0:22:28.880 guard one time on campus for juvenile concert. 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:32.199 Wait he was the head coach. No, he was a 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:34.919 coach black college football. 0:22:34.920 --> 0:22:37.520 He was breaking into coaching that man had He's talking 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.480 about hanging out with the Deltas and different things you had, 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:42.920 you know, supervised part just just a part of working 0:22:42.920 --> 0:22:43.680 there at the university. 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:44.040 It is. 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:47.280 It is fantastic of him just telling the stories of 0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:49.480 just you know, breaking into coaching and what you have 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:53.080 to do as a coach. Manoth Bose Bose both are 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:55.360 real woman. But he's coming in with a good team 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:57.639 and a good offensive line. Skip Pete is the running 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:00.359 back coach for Tampa Bay. Skip Pete got let go here, 0:23:01.440 --> 0:23:06.960 Skip Peek, Well they got three good backs back there 0:23:07.040 --> 0:23:10.560 and what he so Bucky Irving while he's playing well, 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.119 Skip does not Skip believes in the same thing with 0:23:14.160 --> 0:23:16.960 Tony Pollack. Do not over use the guy Bucky Irving 0:23:17.000 --> 0:23:18.560 as well when you put them apart of the rotation. 0:23:18.680 --> 0:23:20.679 So they're gonna try and come in here, run the 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.240 football a lot, Baker Mayfield to play action pass and 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:26.240 get to get the ball out there to Mike Evans. 0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:28.800 So Tampa Bay full point favorite. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.120 By the way, which is rightfully so, I mean, we've 0:23:31.160 --> 0:23:34.400 seen this team defensively when they go against and I'm 0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.840 not saying Baker's elite, but he's a good quarterback when 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.040 they go against Yeah, he's a good quarter He's a 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:41.480 damn good quarterback. When they go against those type of guys, 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:44.439 they got struggle. I mean, you look at what you 0:23:44.480 --> 0:23:46.840 know Burrow, and Burrow's excellent what he was able to 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:48.679 do in here, and you knew the one guy he 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.399 was going to throw to it and they still couldn't 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.640 stop still couldn't stop it. So you're coming in here. 0:23:54.119 --> 0:23:57.360 They're not quite Burrow in Chase. But when you look 0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.760 at Baker and Evans on the outside, they present some problems, 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:03.359 you know, So especially with that run game as well. 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:05.159 You know, Burrow really didn't have much of a run game, 0:24:05.200 --> 0:24:06.560 he was still able to do what he did to 0:24:06.600 --> 0:24:07.920 this Dallas Cowboys defense. 0:24:08.000 --> 0:24:10.480 So to me, I mean, this is this is It's 0:24:10.480 --> 0:24:12.560 gonna be a tough matchup. You know how I feel. 0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:14.119 It's all about matchups, and when you look at the 0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:16.480 Dallas Cowboys defense, I just don't see. 0:24:16.280 --> 0:24:18.480 The matching up well against what Tampa Bay does best. 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:19.160 It's a good team. 0:24:19.320 --> 0:24:22.800 Yeah, that's a problem's and I said yesterday, man, they 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.399 not a Cowboy. I don't have no other boys, but 0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:27.919 I admire other teams. Tampa Bay is one of those teams. 0:24:27.920 --> 0:24:29.760 Tod bows is one of those coaches that really like, 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.960 always have like Todd Bowles, and I think what he 0:24:33.080 --> 0:24:36.600 does defensively, he works everything from from front end to 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.119 back end right. He always has a defensive line. He 0:24:39.160 --> 0:24:41.480 has a scheme that works, and it seems like it's 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.200 easy enough for guys to understand it, and they play 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.680 it fast and they play downhill and I just love 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:50.520 that style of defense, physical downhill. We're gonna we do it. 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:52.960 We do it together, right. But they got a guy 0:24:53.000 --> 0:24:55.880 in the middle in Vida Bay. That to me when 0:24:55.920 --> 0:24:57.880 you turn the tape on and you watch this guy, 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:02.480 it's like, why can't you why can't you block fifty? 0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:04.880 And guys like Devonte David that you thought they were 0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:07.880 going to be out of the NFL still. 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:11.919 At a high level, playing getting at a high level. 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.399 And look I was. 0:25:15.040 --> 0:25:17.760 I've got into so many arguments about make Baker Mayfield 0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.840 over the years, and guys comparing dak in the Baker. 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.320 I'm like, man, it's not even the same stratosphere when 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:26.359 we talk about quarterbacks. But I will say this, Baker 0:25:26.400 --> 0:25:29.679 Mayfield has transitioned his career and has turned it around 0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:32.680 in a way and down in Tampa where you say, man, 0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.359 this is this is how you meet adversity head on 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:37.040 and come out on the other end. 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.640 Because people wrote him off. They wrote him off. 0:25:39.720 --> 0:25:41.800 But the way that he's playing with Mike Evans, and 0:25:41.840 --> 0:25:44.120 don't don't get me wrong, he walked into a situation 0:25:44.160 --> 0:25:46.760 where there was already a team there, so it wasn't 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:50.000 like there was it was bare bones dry. But the 0:25:50.040 --> 0:25:52.639 way that these guys are playing together, the way Sterling 0:25:52.720 --> 0:25:55.119 Shepherd is Sterling Shepherd used to play for the New 0:25:55.200 --> 0:25:58.639 York Giants, is having a resurgence of his career also 0:25:58.800 --> 0:26:01.480 in Tampa. So look, they do a lot of the 0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:04.840 things that the Dallas Cowboys have been hard pressed to 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:07.600 try and beat on game days, and that's stopping the run. 0:26:08.000 --> 0:26:09.800 They are gonna give them a full taste of their 0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.280 running game. And that's what we're gonna see if these 0:26:12.320 --> 0:26:15.560 guys have learned anything. Masi over the last couple of 0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.359 weeks has not been talked about in the same breath. 0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:18.640 People. 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.199 You're not You don't have the videotape of him getting 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:27.040 you know, the club, no white kids, thank you. You 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.240 don't have that tape out there. And people are starting 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:29.520 to say. 0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.280 Ah, height what mos on turned around a little bit. 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.679 Guys like like DC is starting to say, oh so 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:37.440 is pricing himself out. Let's see then here we go, 0:26:38.200 --> 0:26:39.840 then we go see the realness. 0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:40.120 Yeah. 0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.480 Todd Bowles is on the NFL radio yesterday and on 0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.160 Moving the Chains, and he spoke about Baker Mayvery and say, hey, guys, 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:48.119 remember he was the number one pick in the draft, Like, 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:49.960 this is a guy who can't throw the football, he 0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:53.199 can't spin it. I go back to what you were 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.480 talking about, and let's let's look at who he played 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:59.520 for he started off with Cleveland, breath get that organization. 0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:02.840 Still can't still still can't get the quarterback right. Then 0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:05.760 he went to Carolina, still trying to figure out the 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.520 quarterback situation. Spend a minute out there with the Rams. 0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.719 But you know that was because Stafford got hurt. And 0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:14.160 so then he moved over here to Tampa Bay. And 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.040 you're in a good atmosphere. You know, got weapons right 0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:21.439 he's he seemed to thrive. So organizations do matter. By 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.120 the way, when I looked at the sheet of integrity, 0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:24.680 you had Tampa Bay winning the division. 0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:29.560 Yeah, okay, you had Atlanta. They still got a chance. 0:27:33.480 --> 0:27:33.960 They don't. 0:27:36.160 --> 0:27:47.240 Like that dog thread that has ad. You got a 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.359 real friend. 0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.480 Church did the Cowboys, So up. 0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:57.520 Tampa. They're right back in it. And they already beat Tampa. 0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:59.840 So you know what I mean. I remember the game 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:01.639 Pampa Gate out of the way by the way, up 0:28:01.840 --> 0:28:02.200 they did. 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:06.000 I was with you, hada ba Yeah, got a three 0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:10.240 days left. Michael Parsons Jerry Jones spoke about him on 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:15.160 his radio show, UH The NFL Network Report earlier on Sunday, 0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:19.160 speaking about U a possibility trading like a Parsons. Let's 0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:21.760 recap what Jerry had to say about that, and uh, 0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.960 some delicious meals that Jerry likes to eat. 0:28:24.400 --> 0:28:25.320 Delicous game. 0:28:25.520 --> 0:28:30.400 Let's do that next with Harrison very Church payslas about 0:28:31.440 --> 0:28:32.639 on Dallas Coboys Dot com. 0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:33.520 Man. 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:38.760 Look, hey, Danny mccraige, here for Smoothie King. 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I want to be starting something so bad. 0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:43.320 But his words were basically, Man, nobody in the organization 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.280 is said that. I mean, it's it's wherever it's coming from, 0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.640 whatever it's talking aver, whatever the rumors are coming from, 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.480 whatever people talking about. I said yesterday is dumb sports talk. 0:31:52.680 --> 0:31:54.880 He asked me, you have a player with the numbers 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.080 that Michael has had, and this is why you draft 0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:01.080 the guy and see him turn into a potential future 0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:05.800 Hall of Famer. Look, we're gonna we're gonna have these 0:32:05.840 --> 0:32:08.800 conversations all off season about the cap. I don't know 0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:11.320 how you make it up. I don't know who has 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.400 to take a haircut in order to get it done, 0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.680 but somebody is. Because you gotta sign Michaeh. That's period 0:32:17.680 --> 0:32:20.200 doctor in. You gotta sign Micah. And it's all about 0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.280 who's gonna play with Michael. But I mean it's the Cowboys. 0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.680 Even when things are down, you're still having rumors circulating 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:31.720 about whether you resign Micah or not or trade rumors. 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.280 That's that's that's nuts to me. 0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:38.280 Yeah, play Devil's Advocate a little but I'm with you 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:39.760 one hundred percent with both of y'all. 0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:40.560 Nobody's trading. 0:32:40.840 --> 0:32:43.520 I went personally, I think he's a cornerstone piece that's 0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:47.880 got to stay here. But is there a number or 0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:50.560 something that you guys would be like, all right, man, 0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.680 like I gotta let him slide, like like a herschel 0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:54.880 Walker type deal from back in the day where you 0:32:54.920 --> 0:32:58.960 can get a boat hole or boatload of these picks 0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.600 and turn into what the Dallas Cowboys were able to 0:33:01.600 --> 0:33:05.360 turn that herschel Walker thing into. Would that even spike 0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:07.640 any interest? Or is it just like my great Like 0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:09.120 I said before, I'm with y'all on this. I'm just 0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.240 playing double the advocate a little bit, Okay. 0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:16.920 Herschel Walker trade was. 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:20.800 Nineteen ninety eight. 0:33:22.280 --> 0:33:25.120 Yeah, yeah, you hadn't seen another one of those since. 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:27.760 No, you have not a reason? Why ain't nobody go 0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:28.640 sit your dynasty? 0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:28.880 Yup? 0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:29.280 No more? 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:33.680 Understand it was herschel and then it was like Isaac 0:33:33.800 --> 0:33:37.720 Holt couple another linebacker Isael Re. I mean, so it 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:39.960 was like a three man trade so it was like, yes, 0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:41.560 it was like like you got back like three dudes, 0:33:41.600 --> 0:33:44.040 and it was a whole bunch of picks. And if 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.480 the Cowboys cut these certain players, well this four turned 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:48.200 into a two. 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.000 I mean, nobody is signing up for that again. 0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.320 Okay, like they didn't realize, oh, We're about to give 0:33:55.400 --> 0:33:58.480 up a whole lot of picks. And these players we 0:33:58.560 --> 0:34:03.120 got Jimmy by the trash Man, he roasted them. Okay, 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.040 ain't nobody sign up for nothing like that again? That's true, 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:07.840 I mean, that's that's I mean, it's true. It's truly 0:34:07.880 --> 0:34:09.960 one of the great heights of the hey man, don't 0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:16.400 do that again. And the Minnesota was in this realm 0:34:16.440 --> 0:34:20.360 of we are one player away, so we'll give. 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:20.759 It all up. 0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:26.440 I don't think anybody's gonna do that again. And let's 0:34:26.480 --> 0:34:28.600 go back to something I kind of spoke about before. 0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:31.200 When's the last time you saw Jerry Jones get rid 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:32.520 of an impact player that. 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:36.120 I'm rich on that I've never seen it, never seen it. 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.320 Michael Parson is a blue ship player. When you step 0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.319 into the draft, okay, everybody says, well, first you need 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:46.919 a franchise quarterback, right, So if you try to build 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:51.319 a team, your franchise quarterback, he left tackle, a pass rush, 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.000 these these are these are the three items that you 0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.960 look for. Right there, you you have and Jerry's mind. 0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:03.480 He has the quarterback, he has a pass rusher. Why 0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:05.560 is he gonna let the quarterback go? Hein't not about 0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.279 to let the pass rusher go. When Jerry won his 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.400 first Super Bowl, was the last piece that he acquired, 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:15.040 Charles Haley, the past rusher. He had, the quarterback, had 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:22.200 left tackle, when I got the pass rusher. Yeah, many 0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:27.560 times I think fans want to get into what they want. 0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:29.360 What I've learned through the years is. 0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.520 And it's not always good, but get into the mind 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.960 of what the owner wants and kind of what he does. 0:35:37.400 --> 0:35:38.880 Yeah, I have a problem. 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:40.879 I have a I guess my biggest problem is even 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.040 as as a fan, why would you why would that 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:45.120 even be a conversation? 0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:45.719 What? 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:49.200 What? What about him? And what has he done? Like 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:49.839 I don't know? 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:52.560 And for me, I think what you're talking about is, 0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:54.640 you know the picks that could come with it, And 0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.600 that's like a big question mark, like what's behind that door? 0:35:57.640 --> 0:35:59.719 I have no idea what's behind it? But behind this 0:35:59.800 --> 0:36:02.360 door I know exactly what I'm getting with the missile. 0:36:02.440 --> 0:36:03.560 I come on out. 0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:04.919 You know, I don't know. We've turned. 0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:06.800 We went into the draft, got some ones that I 0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.000 don't think we've been impressed with, and I don't want 0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:10.680 to name no names, but you know what I mean. 0:36:11.160 --> 0:36:13.799 But that's always He's always going to be there, dude. 0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:16.560 I remember when there were people who wanted you trade 0:36:16.600 --> 0:36:18.120 Troyan and want to keep Steve Walks. 0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:23.360 Remember it? Remember it? That's weird, that's weird to me. 0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:27.680 This this this is football. You know, this is football. 0:36:27.960 --> 0:36:31.640 So yeah, man, there were people I remember boarding not man, 0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:32.759 we get rid of Joe, We. 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:38.600 Got Steve, Yeah, get rid of Joe. He can't win. 0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.279 So I mean this, this, this is this is all 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:41.640 the time. 0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:43.600 You got to get the money off of my back. 0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:47.680 Yeah, I mean I really, I said, you people are 0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.839 on you want to get rid of Joe Montana, Joe 0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:57.960 Montan so so so heckma, yes, still be fans like 0:36:58.000 --> 0:37:00.160 that all the time. We can get rid of I 0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:01.880 had somebody on my solf we just picked. 0:37:02.760 --> 0:37:03.480 Yeah that makes sense. 0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.080 What picture you getting? I mean that are the picture 0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:08.480 going to be to go? I mean, just is is 0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:11.000 there a right now? I have looked at the draft. 0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.480 Is there another Michael Parsons in this draft? 0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:18.719 I haven't. Yeah, I couldn't answer that one. I haven't 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:19.160 seen him. 0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.000 I mean, so that's their thing. So if you wanted 0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.200 to trade Michael, what are you doing? It's not like 0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:31.920 anybody's Cleveland's not going to give you Myles Garrett back Pittsburgh. 0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:34.719 Where is my equivalent out here somebody who's playing at 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:39.040 this level? No, okay, that that's thing, you know, all right? 0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:42.000 So nick Bosa, they're not giving you nick Bosa. Plus 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:46.120 he's got injuries, So what what deal are you making 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:50.080 out here? Is telling me, yeah, we got better? Nobody's 0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:51.400 doing that, that's true. 0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:55.200 I don't know. It's a weird perception change with with Michael. 0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:58.000 And it's crazy because of the podcast that I think 0:37:58.200 --> 0:38:00.680 some of his perception has changed. As a playoff've always 0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:03.320 said he's the one player that you don't see getting 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:07.000 into things off the field, that people view what he 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:09.920 does from a media standpoint as a deterrent to the team. 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:14.280 Like you being a guy that's played you voice your question, 0:38:14.480 --> 0:38:16.839 had questions about what it's like being in the locker 0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.719 room with a guy that can give the inside the 0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.440 locker room secrets on his podcast when he goes on. 0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.319 But I'm sorry that's fashionable on a podcasts right now, 0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:26.359 there ain't no secrets in the locker room no more. 0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:28.480 They tell it all the locker room secrets. 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:30.280 But I can look at this guy and even guys 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:34.200 like Travis Hunter, he was in college right now. All 0:38:34.320 --> 0:38:36.920 dude does is play video games and he's on his podcast, 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:37.919 you know, most of the time. 0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.960 But people have a problem with that. 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:43.360 I'd rather have a player of his caliber that that's 0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.560 his fix that some of the other three hundred thousand 0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:49.560 things that we've seen cowboy players do around here. 0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:54.920 So it's some internal things that people talk about. That absolutely, 0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.640 that's when you talk about what has led the speculation. 0:38:57.800 --> 0:38:59.840 It's some internal thing. Do you think he can mature 0:38:59.840 --> 0:39:04.120 through whatever those speculations are? Sure? Yeah? And have you 0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:07.439 seen players mature through those things? Yes. 0:39:07.680 --> 0:39:09.920 I will give you an example of a guy that 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.800 you know very well, Des Bryant, and the relationship he 0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:17.000 had with Ray Sherman, the receivers, and then when they 0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:21.080 rang when Garrett range ray Sherman off the mother dude 0:39:21.080 --> 0:39:23.200 who came in there. By the end, it was your boy. 0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:27.440 Derrick DOOLEYO Young Dooley, not the Dooley truck. 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:32.239 Sometimes you need an assistant coach who can talk to 0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:36.800 the player. George Entwards had a good relationship with Michael Parsons. 0:39:37.840 --> 0:39:41.319 George Edwards is gone, so I do believe along the way, 0:39:41.560 --> 0:39:43.920 you know, a good assistant coach can really make a 0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.480 big Troy Aickman had North Turner be its presenter. David 0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:49.680 Schuley was the original offensive coordinator for me. It was 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:52.640 north Turner who came in here towards turned my career around. 0:39:53.120 --> 0:39:55.759 So you know, a good assistant coach who can really 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:57.359 relate with players and get them on there. 0:39:58.120 --> 0:39:59.040 It helps. 0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:04.560 So to answer your questionnaire. That sometimes becomes a thing 0:40:04.600 --> 0:40:07.640 of who can relate to the player or do they 0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:11.640 hire someone who is a part of the organization that 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:13.839 can really like, hey, hey, let me talk to you. 0:40:13.920 --> 0:40:16.600 I think that matters when I look at the Mavericks. 0:40:17.200 --> 0:40:22.000 Hiring Jason Kidd over Rick Carlisle was a different dynamic 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.520 for Luka Dancic because Jason consider up here. 0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.360 Even though Rick played in the league and a. 0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:31.799 Championship kid, Jason, I know what you're going through, and 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.080 that mattered to because Luke at him like like, there's 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:39.319 a lot of people don't like Rick, but Rick can coach. Yes, 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.400 I'm saying so for real thing. I mean what he's 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.400 doing Indiana, I mean, Rick can coach is real. But 0:40:44.480 --> 0:40:46.279 Luca didn't like him, and it was to the point 0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:47.759 where Rick was smarter than that. I'm gona go ahead 0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:50.919 and hit this exit before before this young fella gets 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.080 me going. But Kid, come in. He made a big 0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:56.600 what's happened with Kyrie Irving? Nobody gets Jason Kid enough 0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:59.000 credit for because that's the one dude that Kyrie Kyrie 0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.879 treat him like he treats We don't need a coach, right, 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.520 never talk about like like so it matters. So that's 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:10.000 kind of my point there. All right, we got to 0:41:10.000 --> 0:41:11.600 get out of here. But Jerry Jones on one O 0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.240 five three of the Fan was asked about eating raccoon 0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:18.080 and he said, oh yeah, no way, it's a delicacy 0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:20.560 and then talked about his real real and talking about 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.360 his mom had made it made squirrel and he had 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.200 a real affinity for eating squirrel and that you know, 0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:30.279 eating the squirrel brain was uh, it was delicious and 0:41:30.360 --> 0:41:32.960 it was a fight for it at his table and 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:35.839 he didn't fight for his sister and his mom. They 0:41:35.920 --> 0:41:38.000 enjoyed that. So he's from Arkansas. 0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:41.680 My folks are. 0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.799 From Birmingham, Alabama, and my dad talks to me about 0:41:43.840 --> 0:41:45.400 many of the times of what they ate, Like they 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:45.839 were poor. 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:50.440 When you poor, that's what you squirrel. 0:41:52.160 --> 0:41:53.520 Yeah, I mean when I was a kid and they 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:55.759 would throw out the pig ears and pig field. I 0:41:55.800 --> 0:41:57.399 look at it like no, but over there they grew 0:41:57.480 --> 0:42:00.719 up eating that. So when you were poor, Jerry grew up. 0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:05.359 Jerry grew up poor. You know they, or I should say, 0:42:05.600 --> 0:42:07.040 he didn't grow up rich. He didn't grow up like 0:42:07.080 --> 0:42:07.879 you didn't know you. 0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:08.640 Ate stuff like that. 0:42:09.480 --> 0:42:11.200 You went out there, you stuff like that that today 0:42:12.560 --> 0:42:15.080 I'm good. 0:42:15.320 --> 0:42:15.560 Good. 0:42:15.719 --> 0:42:17.239 You go down to New Orleans. You got a new 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:18.600 one man. You go to New one Man, they serving 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:21.120 some stuff. I remember the time man had we ate 0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.480 some frog legs out there one Super Bowl and then 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.799 I was at this place, uh called Butcher, and we 0:42:27.880 --> 0:42:32.400 ended up seeing Scott Shanley over there. No Scott, but anyway, 0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:36.279 they're like, we have some jaw, yeah, jall. 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.600 Like what's that? 0:42:37.640 --> 0:42:40.520 It's like the jaw, the jaw of the pig like, yeah, 0:42:40.520 --> 0:42:41.160 we're gonna eat. 0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:50.600 Some of that pigs right now. It was like bacon, 0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:52.759 like bacon. It was like I was eating baking right. 0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:54.719 We're good. I'm gonna tell you man. 0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:56.759 The guy's like, no, he's eat if you don't like it, 0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.480 he said, if you don't like you like bacon, yeay. 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.120 If you don't like this, I'll get you something all right. 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:05.480 You know it was so good. I got one to go. 0:43:06.200 --> 0:43:07.560 I got one to go, put in the fridge and 0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:08.160 had later on. 0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:13.399 That night with some cool Now you're good with Carmelone. 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:17.319 Carl Malone loves squirrel He'll talk about he said, man, 0:43:17.360 --> 0:43:20.239 squirrel stew, squirrels. He was like the forest gun do 0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:21.319 you started name and all the things you. 0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:21.920 Eat with squirrel? 0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:26.839 Squirrel stew uh squirrel du It was hilarious, man, Carl. 0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.200 When when I worked in l A, Carmelon had a show, 0:43:29.480 --> 0:43:31.600 he talked about how much he enjoyed eating squirrels. So 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.960 Jerry talking about et scrowges reminded me of Carmelone. What 0:43:34.040 --> 0:43:38.399 is carmelo with Jerry? Carl from Louisiana, Jerry for Arkansas, Dude, 0:43:38.400 --> 0:43:39.839 when you don't grow up with a whole lot of money. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:48.279 Many that's anxiety today right out back. And guy I 0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:56.520 grew up, poor no Cliff with the Williams Chicken. I 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.120 don't know if was near. I don't know either. 0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:04.120 Some chicken is out. It was somewhere to go. Boys, 0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:08.640 What you're talking about? Squirrels? The hamburger Man something like 0:44:08.719 --> 0:44:13.160 they want survivors. That is going on, squirrel brain, Yo, 0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:14.560 season it with some lowries. 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.640 Ya crazy? Is that? No way? City? Boys? Down one 0:44:19.760 --> 0:44:31.640 meat church on Holy Bod Halloween. That tastes good. Some 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:40.000 eggs with your squirrel brains. Mix it up, Holy Boodle season. 0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:45.040 It tastes good. Man Church. 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