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Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts Barry Church,

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Speaker 3: Hecma Harrison and New.

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Speaker 2: He scrugs.

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Speaker 4: Players Lounge coming at you on a Tuesday, off day

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Speaker 4: We do it all the time, five days a week

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Speaker 4: right here on the Players Lounge. You brought to you

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Speaker 4: Cowboys at to Barry Church.

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Speaker 2: I am New. He scrugs.

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Speaker 4: Lots of topics to get to today, but one topic

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Speaker 4: we didn't touch on yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into one. Cooper Rush. No, no, you know

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Speaker 2: what Cooper trying to make a sny remark to.

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Speaker 5: That.

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Speaker 2: Uh BC is the quarterback guru.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, let BC tell us about what he thinks about

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Speaker 6: what we should do in the quarterback man.

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Speaker 4: He wants cut for be cut for Garrett Gilbert, but

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Speaker 4: he did him dirty back then.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so what you got man? You can see

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Speaker 7: I'm torn. I'm torn right now because Cooper Rush, He's

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Speaker 7: the definition of what a backup should be able to

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Speaker 7: do if you need him for one or two games,

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Speaker 7: maybe even three, he can get He could rally off

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Speaker 7: a two on one record, maybe a three and oh record,

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Speaker 7: And that's exactly what the backup quarterback position is supposed

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Speaker 7: to do. Coming there, your play is not that far

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Speaker 7: off from the starter. You know, you can keep the

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Speaker 7: same playbook and you can go out there and be productive.

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Speaker 7: So I'm torn between that and do we want to

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Speaker 7: see something else? Can we upgrade that position at the

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Speaker 7: quarterback backup position?

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Speaker 2: And it's just took because I'm like, who else you

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Speaker 2: gonna go.

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Speaker 7: Out there and grab that has the same capabilities of

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Speaker 7: a Cooper Rush to go out there?

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Speaker 2: His record is what eight and something through seven and

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Speaker 2: three eight three, I'm crazy when he's in there. So

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Speaker 2: it's like, man, I'm torn between it.

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Speaker 7: But then I also see games where he threw for

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Speaker 7: forty five yards where the offense looked, you know, a

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Speaker 7: knee nick out there, just didn't know what they were doing.

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Speaker 7: So I'm torn between it because I don't think you

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Speaker 7: can upgrade that significantly from a Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 2: But if he's going out there asking for.

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Speaker 7: You know, eight million, nine million to be a backup,

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Speaker 7: then I think.

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Speaker 2: You gotta you gotta go ahead and move along.

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Speaker 7: But if he's asking for that same five, you know,

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Speaker 7: then I don't have a problem bringing him back.

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Speaker 6: Look, my thing is is that Barry, I can't I

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Speaker 6: can't name three five backup quarterbacks right now in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: And that's for a reason.

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Speaker 6: It's the reason is is that you pay your number

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Speaker 6: one guy the most of your cap, and you expect

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Speaker 6: for him to be able to lead you.

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Speaker 2: The backup guy is after.

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Speaker 6: Thet until you get till your number one gets hurt

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Speaker 6: at Boom you walked in there for the Seahawks. But no,

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Speaker 6: the what I'm what I'm trying to break down is

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Speaker 6: the fact that when you go to your second, your

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Speaker 6: second guy, it's only for just a little amount. Give

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Speaker 6: me five games, brother, while God gets healthy. In the

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Speaker 6: Dallas situation, man, where guy's having to carry you for

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Speaker 6: the rest of the season, it can't be good. But

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Speaker 6: he's fourteen hundred yards, ten touches, ten touchdowns and three interceptions.

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Speaker 2: And so I listen, and so I was listening to

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Speaker 2: the interview.

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Speaker 6: I was listening to the interview this morning one on

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Speaker 6: five three the Fan okay, and Jerry, And Jerry comes

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Speaker 6: on and he's talking about he's given trying to give

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Speaker 6: praise to Rico Dawdle about the job that Rico is doing,

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Speaker 6: but he even gave credit to Cooper Rush for the

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Speaker 6: job that he did at the line of scrimmage. And

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Speaker 6: I was like, I was trying out like, like you know,

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Speaker 6: He's recognizing something that the line of scrimmag she's making

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Speaker 6: calls whatever. So Cooper Rush is good for the running game, Okay,

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Speaker 6: all right, But needless to say, in those close games

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Speaker 6: going to do it. Just seems like like Jameis Winston

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Speaker 6: the thing that I think has me looking around saying, Okay,

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Speaker 6: now we might need to find somebody else in this situation,

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Speaker 6: five games, Let's say, if those five games are games

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Speaker 6: that you need back when Jag was playing those games

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Speaker 6: you had to win, you need him just to step

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Speaker 6: in for a little while. Do we trust him still

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Speaker 6: talking about, right, I'm just look, there's just been some

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Speaker 6: question marks to his game that I still say, like,

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Speaker 6: come on, man, you late throwing behind like you're just

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Speaker 6: throwing into traffic.

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Speaker 2: Now at this point, at this point, you got it.

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Speaker 6: He has three interceptions, He's probably to have about seven,

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Speaker 6: you know, but it hadn't been perfect. It hadn't been

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Speaker 6: perfect science with Cooper Rush. So yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I'm really on the fence. But if I have to decide,

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Speaker 6: I say no, I go, I go to the I

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Speaker 6: started looking. I started looking for a backup.

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Speaker 4: Red zone turnovers are too much for me, just too much.

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Speaker 4: Saw it in Cincinnati, saw it in Carolina. You've been

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Speaker 4: in the league too long for too many years to

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Speaker 4: have this keep happening. And the first question we really

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Speaker 4: have to ask ourselves who's coaching this team next year,

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Speaker 4: Because depending on who you have as a coach, they're

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Speaker 4: going to determine whether or not they see this guy

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Speaker 4: working for them. So that's really the biggest thing right now,

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Speaker 4: what offense are you running? Who comes in here? Look,

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Speaker 4: he's not a magician. I've always said that it's quarterback,

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Speaker 4: not a magician. And the more positive pieces you have

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Speaker 4: around it, clearly it's been better for him his career.

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Speaker 4: It's Carolina Panthers. Guys, okay, three touchdown, It's the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: It's pac Man Jones famously want to say, it's the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Dude, don't get carried away. It's the Panthers.

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Speaker 4: The week before that, you got close, you couldn't get

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Speaker 4: it done. It was a bad Cincinnati defense. Guess what

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Speaker 4: happens the next three game? I turn up, not to

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Speaker 4: turn up. So he may answer the questions for you

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Speaker 4: either way in the next three football games. Because all

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Speaker 4: three teams, two teams are in first place and the

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Speaker 4: other one is right here chasing the wild card. So

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Speaker 4: these are three teams that most likely will be in

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Speaker 4: the playoffs, with Philadelphia arguably being the top team in

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Speaker 4: the NFC right now.

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Speaker 2: So what do.

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Speaker 4: You if, and it's an if, if Mike McCarthy comes back,

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Speaker 4: would you trust Mike McCarthy and Scott Tolz in the

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Speaker 4: backup quarterback and say, hey, man, go make another Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 2: Because Cooper Rush is a guy.

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Speaker 4: You let go, went to the Giants, came back here,

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Speaker 4: you had him cut and they ended up making something

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Speaker 4: out of Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 2: They really did.

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Speaker 4: I give them as a coaching staff a lot of credit.

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Speaker 2: Could do it again.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if Trey Lance is going to be

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Speaker 4: the answer.

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Speaker 2: I don't see that. I don't know. You once upon

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Speaker 2: a time they see Cooper Rush either. That's true.

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Speaker 4: So so so let's see what happens and who else knows?

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Speaker 4: Who else is out there? If Cooper Rush plays good

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Speaker 4: these last three games, well guess what somebody's gonna knocking

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Speaker 4: on his door. And to hear Stevid Jones talk about

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Speaker 4: the titans of the persons around here, you may not

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Speaker 4: be able to afford him. He could price himself out

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Speaker 4: of a job. Ricco'donald could price himself out of a job.

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Speaker 4: And then you want to know, let's use that forefront.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, and look what I what have we seen

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Speaker 4: in the NFL? You can go find some guys out here,

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Speaker 4: you can. And this is this is where your coaching

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Speaker 4: staff comes into play. That's why I really believe the

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Speaker 4: whole thing starts to stem with two things. One who's

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Speaker 4: your coaching staff? And two what's the market for Cooper Rush?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, because he's got to be one of the highest

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Speaker 7: paid backups, right, you gotta be.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he's making that Chase stand anymorey,

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know if he's finessing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I can't. I can't chase. He might be right

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Speaker 2: up there. He might be right up there. It might

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Speaker 2: be a little bit.

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Speaker 4: I mean, dude, you got you got, you got your

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Speaker 4: third string quarterback in five million.

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Speaker 6: When you say pricing himself out, do you say pricing

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Speaker 6: itself out as a backup somewhere else?

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Speaker 4: I mean, as as pricing himself out to the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: say we don't want to pay that number for our backup. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's not like Tyler Bias. Hey, we like you, but

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Speaker 4: not at ten million dollars. So these next three games,

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Speaker 4: if he plays well these next three games, and somebody

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Speaker 4: else says, hey, look, we'll pay that number for that guy,

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Speaker 4: and the Cowboys deemon, that's too much. I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is what they do. You know very well.

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Speaker 2: You sat there myself, right, this this is our right.

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Speaker 2: So they would they would hey, hey, young.

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Speaker 6: Fellow and you like, brother, what is it?

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's that's the truth. You look at

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Speaker 4: Armstrong last year. I mean the bunch of the guys

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Speaker 4: that left here last year. I think they wanted but

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Speaker 4: they had a number on. Look they what if they

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Speaker 4: told you the last couple of years of free agency,

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Speaker 4: they don't go out here to north Strom rack. They

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Speaker 4: are five and below. They are they are five and below.

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Speaker 7: Man, if you ain't one of them top like you said,

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Speaker 7: weapons offensive weapon or a guy.

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Speaker 2: Like Parsons man.

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Speaker 4: Jerry out there shining with a five dollar bill.

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Speaker 6: Five and below? Got this for you?

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Speaker 2: Got this little puzzle? Bet I need one, You bet

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Speaker 2: I need back up?

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Speaker 4: You know, you go for your child whose birthday is it?

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Speaker 4: You know, because he got fifteen million birthday. But we're

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Speaker 4: going to five below.

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Speaker 2: Go dollarcept right, he get.

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Speaker 4: Go get him, go get him something for five things?

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Speaker 2: Yes, put him the bag. That's wow. So heck you

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Speaker 2: ain't bringing him back.

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Speaker 6: Look, and I told you I was on the fence

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Speaker 6: on it. And the reason why is a little bit

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Speaker 6: of what you were saying about the coaching moves. If

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Speaker 6: you if you bring in another coaching staff is going

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Speaker 6: to be a whole nother operation anyway offensively, and he's

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Speaker 6: going to be looking for Cooper Rush to be making

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Speaker 6: different reads and learning entirely new playbook altogether. If it's

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Speaker 6: still Mike, Mike is going to be comfortable with Cooper

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Speaker 6: Rush and who he is as a player and maybe

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Speaker 6: bring in some other guys to compete with him. But

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Speaker 6: at the same time, he has it, he has all

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Speaker 6: the jargon, he has all the all the plays at

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Speaker 6: his disposal. To me, I think when I look at

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Speaker 6: Dak and Dak's injury, and we've been here before where

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Speaker 4: So you know that's why I say, who's your coaching

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Speaker 6: I just when we're talking about him, I was watching

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Speaker 2: You know, he's missing on throws.

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Speaker 6: And whatever he did is Sam Donald, whatever he did

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Speaker 4: Ah, he's not elite, So so you're gonna have that

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Speaker 2: But then I come back into this.

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Speaker 4: They never they never went anywhere. So you got Sam.

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Speaker 4: We forget about that Kendon one National Championship mission got hurt.

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Speaker 4: So Sam Donald's in here now. I look at the

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Speaker 2: Take that. I mean that's a drop off.

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Speaker 4: I mean the return on investment for for Minnesota is

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Speaker 6: So but how do they feel a team like that,

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Speaker 4: You didn't expect them to make the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: This year my opinion. No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, okay, if I look at that division, because

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Speaker 4: by secretly, Kevin O'Connell I here coach balling as ahead

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Speaker 4: coach balling. So to me, I look at what they've done,

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Speaker 4: I say, man, this is good. This is good coaching.

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Speaker 4: It's also good management. GM up there, I'll not say

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Speaker 4: his name, brother man, doing a good job, doing a

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Speaker 4: ultimately we spring it back here to Cooper Rush. Can

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Speaker 7: up eighty to eighty.

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Speaker 4: One time I was on my anniversary and other time

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Speaker 4: was on my birthday, like giving up these days to

442
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Speaker 4: watching watch you guys get out.

443
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Speaker 2: Here to say we had Kyle Lrton one time. Remember

444
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Speaker 2: the backup Kyle Arrton was Wow, he was bad. Who

445
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Speaker 2: was party like? That was his? Yeah, yo, he was bad.

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Speaker 6: Matt Castle, but those were some years bro we Oh god,

447
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Speaker 6: Kate Moore.

448
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Speaker 12: Was in there.

449
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Speaker 2: No disrespect, but no he didn't lie about it.

450
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Speaker 4: So Tampa Bay comes in here, Baker Mayfield was playing

451
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Speaker 4: good football. They lost, Chris got with it, keep on going.

452
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Speaker 4: We talk about coaching jobs. Todd Bowles has done it.

453
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Speaker 4: Darn good coaching jobs. About a guy that kept they

454
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Speaker 4: kept trying to fire even after the first year he

455
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Speaker 4: got there when he replaced Bruce Arians. Todd is a

456
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Speaker 4: dang good coach.

457
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Speaker 2: Was a head.

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Speaker 4: I mean he was an assistant coach here with Bill

459
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Speaker 4: Parcells coached the Jets lost his job there. That's another one.

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Speaker 4: And talk about bad organizations there. We see it was

461
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Speaker 4: it was him and uh there was an old podcast

462
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Speaker 4: called Hustle and Hustle and Flow with Jim Trotter and

463
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Speaker 4: Steve Weisch and they had bowls on their bulls. Talked

464
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Speaker 4: about the time he coached black college football and he

465
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Speaker 4: just said it was just so much he had to

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Speaker 4: learn and then just things they had to do. He

467
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Speaker 4: said he had to, uh had to be a security

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Speaker 4: guard one time on campus for juvenile concert.

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Speaker 2: Wait he was the head coach. No, he was a

470
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Speaker 2: coach black college football.

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Speaker 4: He was breaking into coaching that man had He's talking

472
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Speaker 4: about hanging out with the Deltas and different things you had,

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Speaker 4: you know, supervised part just just a part of working

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Speaker 4: there at the university.

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: It is fantastic of him just telling the stories of

477
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Speaker 4: just you know, breaking into coaching and what you have

478
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Speaker 4: to do as a coach. Manoth Bose Bose both are

479
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Speaker 4: real woman. But he's coming in with a good team

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Speaker 4: and a good offensive line. Skip Pete is the running

481
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Speaker 4: back coach for Tampa Bay. Skip Pete got let go here,

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Speaker 4: Skip Peek, Well they got three good backs back there

483
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Speaker 4: and what he so Bucky Irving while he's playing well,

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Speaker 4: Skip does not Skip believes in the same thing with

485
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Speaker 4: Tony Pollack. Do not over use the guy Bucky Irving

486
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Speaker 4: as well when you put them apart of the rotation.

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Speaker 4: So they're gonna try and come in here, run the

488
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Speaker 4: football a lot, Baker Mayfield to play action pass and

489
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Speaker 4: get to get the ball out there to Mike Evans.

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Speaker 4: So Tampa Bay full point favorite.

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Speaker 7: By the way, which is rightfully so, I mean, we've

492
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Speaker 7: seen this team defensively when they go against and I'm

493
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Speaker 7: not saying Baker's elite, but he's a good quarterback when

494
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Speaker 7: they go against Yeah, he's a good quarter He's a

495
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Speaker 7: damn good quarterback. When they go against those type of guys,

496
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Speaker 7: they got struggle. I mean, you look at what you

497
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Speaker 7: know Burrow, and Burrow's excellent what he was able to

498
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Speaker 7: do in here, and you knew the one guy he

499
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Speaker 7: was going to throw to it and they still couldn't

500
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Speaker 7: stop still couldn't stop it. So you're coming in here.

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Speaker 7: They're not quite Burrow in Chase. But when you look

502
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Speaker 7: at Baker and Evans on the outside, they present some problems,

503
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Speaker 7: you know, So especially with that run game as well.

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Speaker 7: You know, Burrow really didn't have much of a run game,

505
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Speaker 7: he was still able to do what he did to

506
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Speaker 7: this Dallas Cowboys defense.

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Speaker 2: So to me, I mean, this is this is It's

508
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Speaker 2: gonna be a tough matchup. You know how I feel.

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Speaker 7: It's all about matchups, and when you look at the

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Speaker 7: Dallas Cowboys defense, I just don't see.

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Speaker 2: The matching up well against what Tampa Bay does best.

512
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Speaker 2: It's a good team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a problem's and I said yesterday, man, they

514
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Speaker 6: not a Cowboy. I don't have no other boys, but

515
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Speaker 6: I admire other teams. Tampa Bay is one of those teams.

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Speaker 6: Tod bows is one of those coaches that really like,

517
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Speaker 6: always have like Todd Bowles, and I think what he

518
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Speaker 6: does defensively, he works everything from from front end to

519
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Speaker 6: back end right. He always has a defensive line. He

520
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Speaker 6: has a scheme that works, and it seems like it's

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Speaker 6: easy enough for guys to understand it, and they play

522
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Speaker 6: it fast and they play downhill and I just love

523
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Speaker 6: that style of defense, physical downhill. We're gonna we do it.

524
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Speaker 6: We do it together, right. But they got a guy

525
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Speaker 6: in the middle in Vida Bay. That to me when

526
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 6: you turn the tape on and you watch this guy,

527
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 6: it's like, why can't you why can't you block fifty?

528
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Speaker 6: And guys like Devonte David that you thought they were

529
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Speaker 6: going to be out of the NFL still.

530
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Speaker 2: At a high level, playing getting at a high level.

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Speaker 2: And look I was.

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Speaker 6: I've got into so many arguments about make Baker Mayfield

533
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Speaker 6: over the years, and guys comparing dak in the Baker.

534
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, it's not even the same stratosphere when

535
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 6: we talk about quarterbacks. But I will say this, Baker

536
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Speaker 6: Mayfield has transitioned his career and has turned it around

537
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Speaker 6: in a way and down in Tampa where you say, man,

538
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Speaker 6: this is this is how you meet adversity head on

539
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Speaker 6: and come out on the other end.

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Speaker 2: Because people wrote him off. They wrote him off.

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Speaker 6: But the way that he's playing with Mike Evans, and

542
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 6: don't don't get me wrong, he walked into a situation

543
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Speaker 6: where there was already a team there, so it wasn't

544
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Speaker 6: like there was it was bare bones dry. But the

545
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Speaker 6: way that these guys are playing together, the way Sterling

546
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Speaker 6: Shepherd is Sterling Shepherd used to play for the New

547
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Speaker 6: York Giants, is having a resurgence of his career also

548
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Speaker 6: in Tampa. So look, they do a lot of the

549
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 6: things that the Dallas Cowboys have been hard pressed to

550
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 6: try and beat on game days, and that's stopping the run.

551
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 6: They are gonna give them a full taste of their

552
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 6: running game. And that's what we're gonna see if these

553
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 6: guys have learned anything. Masi over the last couple of

554
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Speaker 6: weeks has not been talked about in the same breath.

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Speaker 2: People.

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Speaker 6: You're not You don't have the videotape of him getting

557
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Speaker 6: you know, the club, no white kids, thank you. You

558
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Speaker 6: don't have that tape out there. And people are starting

559
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Speaker 6: to say.

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Speaker 2: Ah, height what mos on turned around a little bit.

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Speaker 6: Guys like like DC is starting to say, oh so

562
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Speaker 6: is pricing himself out. Let's see then here we go,

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Speaker 6: then we go see the realness.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Todd Bowles is on the NFL radio yesterday and on

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Speaker 4: Moving the Chains, and he spoke about Baker Mayvery and say, hey, guys,

567
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Speaker 4: remember he was the number one pick in the draft, Like,

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Speaker 4: this is a guy who can't throw the football, he

569
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Speaker 4: can't spin it. I go back to what you were

570
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 4: talking about, and let's let's look at who he played

571
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Speaker 4: for he started off with Cleveland, breath get that organization.

572
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 4: Still can't still still can't get the quarterback right. Then

573
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: he went to Carolina, still trying to figure out the

574
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Speaker 4: quarterback situation. Spend a minute out there with the Rams.

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Speaker 4: But you know that was because Stafford got hurt. And

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Speaker 4: so then he moved over here to Tampa Bay. And

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00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 4: you're in a good atmosphere. You know, got weapons right

578
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,439
Speaker 4: he's he seemed to thrive. So organizations do matter. By

579
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Speaker 4: the way, when I looked at the sheet of integrity,

580
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Speaker 4: you had Tampa Bay winning the division.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you had Atlanta. They still got a chance.

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Speaker 2: They don't.

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Speaker 12: Like that dog thread that has ad. You got a

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Speaker 12: real friend.

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Speaker 4: Church did the Cowboys, So up.

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Speaker 2: Tampa. They're right back in it. And they already beat Tampa.

587
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Speaker 2: So you know what I mean. I remember the game

588
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Speaker 2: Pampa Gate out of the way by the way, up

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Speaker 2: they did.

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Speaker 4: I was with you, hada ba Yeah, got a three

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Speaker 4: days left. Michael Parsons Jerry Jones spoke about him on

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Speaker 4: his radio show, UH The NFL Network Report earlier on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: speaking about U a possibility trading like a Parsons. Let's

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Speaker 4: Jerry Jones does his radio show eight thirty every morning

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Speaker 4: Bobby's who he talked to this morning, and he was

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Speaker 4: asked about Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was asked about.

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Speaker 4: Stephen Jones talking about you know, the money, and then

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Speaker 4: went into Michael Parsons and Jerry's like, hey, look, nobody

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Speaker 4: in this organization ever spoken about moving on from Michael Parsons.

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Speaker 4: NFL Network had to report there, and so I just.

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Speaker 2: Wanted to go around the table.

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Speaker 4: Thought about that from Jerry had to say about Michaeh.

659
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 6: Man, I wish, I wish Jerry say, y'all want to

660
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 6: be starting something. I want to be starting something so bad.

661
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 6: But his words were basically, Man, nobody in the organization

662
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 6: is said that. I mean, it's it's wherever it's coming from,

663
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 6: whatever it's talking aver, whatever the rumors are coming from,

664
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 6: whatever people talking about. I said yesterday is dumb sports talk.

665
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 6: He asked me, you have a player with the numbers

666
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 6: that Michael has had, and this is why you draft

667
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 6: the guy and see him turn into a potential future

668
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 6: Hall of Famer. Look, we're gonna we're gonna have these

669
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 6: conversations all off season about the cap. I don't know

670
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 6: how you make it up. I don't know who has

671
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 6: to take a haircut in order to get it done,

672
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 6: but somebody is. Because you gotta sign Michaeh. That's period

673
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 6: doctor in. You gotta sign Micah. And it's all about

674
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 6: who's gonna play with Michael. But I mean it's the Cowboys.

675
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 6: Even when things are down, you're still having rumors circulating

676
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: about whether you resign Micah or not or trade rumors.

677
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: That's that's that's nuts to me.

678
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, play Devil's Advocate a little but I'm with you

679
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 7: one hundred percent with both of y'all.

680
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: Nobody's trading.

681
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 7: I went personally, I think he's a cornerstone piece that's

682
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 7: got to stay here. But is there a number or

683
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 7: something that you guys would be like, all right, man,

684
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 7: like I gotta let him slide, like like a herschel

685
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 7: Walker type deal from back in the day where you

686
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 7: can get a boat hole or boatload of these picks

687
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 7: and turn into what the Dallas Cowboys were able to

688
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 7: turn that herschel Walker thing into. Would that even spike

689
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 7: any interest? Or is it just like my great Like

690
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 7: I said before, I'm with y'all on this. I'm just

691
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 7: playing double the advocate a little bit, Okay.

692
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 4: Herschel Walker trade was.

693
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety eight.

694
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you hadn't seen another one of those since.

695
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 2: No, you have not a reason? Why ain't nobody go

696
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 2: sit your dynasty?

697
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 12: Yup?

698
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: No more?

699
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: Understand it was herschel and then it was like Isaac

700
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: Holt couple another linebacker Isael Re. I mean, so it

701
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 4: was like a three man trade so it was like, yes,

702
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 4: it was like like you got back like three dudes,

703
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: and it was a whole bunch of picks. And if

704
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 4: the Cowboys cut these certain players, well this four turned

705
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: into a two.

706
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody is signing up for that again.

707
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: Okay, like they didn't realize, oh, We're about to give

708
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: up a whole lot of picks. And these players we

709
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 4: got Jimmy by the trash Man, he roasted them. Okay,

710
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 4: ain't nobody sign up for nothing like that again? That's true,

711
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's I mean, it's true. It's truly

712
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 4: one of the great heights of the hey man, don't

713
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: do that again. And the Minnesota was in this realm

714
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 4: of we are one player away, so we'll give.

715
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 2: It all up.

716
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody's gonna do that again. And let's

717
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: go back to something I kind of spoke about before.

718
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 4: When's the last time you saw Jerry Jones get rid

719
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 4: of an impact player that.

720
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: I'm rich on that I've never seen it, never seen it.

721
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 4: Michael Parson is a blue ship player. When you step

722
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: into the draft, okay, everybody says, well, first you need

723
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 4: a franchise quarterback, right, So if you try to build

724
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: a team, your franchise quarterback, he left tackle, a pass rush,

725
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: these these are these are the three items that you

726
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 4: look for. Right there, you you have and Jerry's mind.

727
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 4: He has the quarterback, he has a pass rusher. Why

728
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 4: is he gonna let the quarterback go? Hein't not about

729
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: to let the pass rusher go. When Jerry won his

730
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 4: first Super Bowl, was the last piece that he acquired,

731
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: Charles Haley, the past rusher. He had, the quarterback, had

732
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 4: left tackle, when I got the pass rusher. Yeah, many

733
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: times I think fans want to get into what they want.

734
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 2: What I've learned through the years is.

735
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 4: And it's not always good, but get into the mind

736
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 4: of what the owner wants and kind of what he does.

737
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a problem.

738
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 6: I have a I guess my biggest problem is even

739
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 6: as as a fan, why would you why would that

740
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 6: even be a conversation?

741
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 13: What?

742
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: What? What about him? And what has he done? Like

743
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: I don't know?

744
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: And for me, I think what you're talking about is,

745
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 6: you know the picks that could come with it, And

746
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 6: that's like a big question mark, like what's behind that door?

747
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 6: I have no idea what's behind it? But behind this

748
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 6: door I know exactly what I'm getting with the missile.

749
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 6: I come on out.

750
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. We've turned.

751
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 6: We went into the draft, got some ones that I

752
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 6: don't think we've been impressed with, and I don't want

753
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 6: to name no names, but you know what I mean.

754
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: But that's always He's always going to be there, dude.

755
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: I remember when there were people who wanted you trade

756
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 4: Troyan and want to keep Steve Walks.

757
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: Remember it? Remember it? That's weird, that's weird to me.

758
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 4: This this this is football. You know, this is football.

759
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, man, there were people I remember boarding not man,

760
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: we get rid of Joe, We.

761
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: Got Steve, Yeah, get rid of Joe. He can't win.

762
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: So I mean this, this, this is this is all

763
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 4: the time.

764
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: You got to get the money off of my back.

765
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I really, I said, you people are

766
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: on you want to get rid of Joe Montana, Joe

767
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: Montan so so so heckma, yes, still be fans like

768
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: that all the time. We can get rid of I

769
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 4: had somebody on my solf we just picked.

770
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah that makes sense.

771
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 4: What picture you getting? I mean that are the picture

772
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 4: going to be to go? I mean, just is is

773
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 4: there a right now? I have looked at the draft.

774
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 4: Is there another Michael Parsons in this draft?

775
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: I haven't. Yeah, I couldn't answer that one. I haven't

776
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: seen him.

777
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 4: I mean, so that's their thing. So if you wanted

778
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: to trade Michael, what are you doing? It's not like

779
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 4: anybody's Cleveland's not going to give you Myles Garrett back Pittsburgh.

780
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: Where is my equivalent out here somebody who's playing at

781
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: this level? No, okay, that that's thing, you know, all right?

782
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: So nick Bosa, they're not giving you nick Bosa. Plus

783
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 4: he's got injuries, So what what deal are you making

784
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 4: out here? Is telling me, yeah, we got better? Nobody's

785
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 4: doing that, that's true.

786
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 6: I don't know. It's a weird perception change with with Michael.

787
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 6: And it's crazy because of the podcast that I think

788
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 6: some of his perception has changed. As a playoff've always

789
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: said he's the one player that you don't see getting

790
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: into things off the field, that people view what he

791
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 6: does from a media standpoint as a deterrent to the team.

792
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 6: Like you being a guy that's played you voice your question,

793
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 6: had questions about what it's like being in the locker

794
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 6: room with a guy that can give the inside the

795
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 6: locker room secrets on his podcast when he goes on.

796
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 6: But I'm sorry that's fashionable on a podcasts right now,

797
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 6: there ain't no secrets in the locker room no more.

798
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: They tell it all the locker room secrets.

799
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 6: But I can look at this guy and even guys

800
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 6: like Travis Hunter, he was in college right now. All

801
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 6: dude does is play video games and he's on his podcast,

802
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 6: you know, most of the time.

803
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: But people have a problem with that.

804
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 6: I'd rather have a player of his caliber that that's

805
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 6: his fix that some of the other three hundred thousand

806
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 6: things that we've seen cowboy players do around here.

807
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 4: So it's some internal things that people talk about. That absolutely,

808
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 4: that's when you talk about what has led the speculation.

809
00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 2: It's some internal thing. Do you think he can mature

810
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: through whatever those speculations are? Sure? Yeah? And have you

811
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 2: seen players mature through those things? Yes.

812
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 4: I will give you an example of a guy that

813
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 4: you know very well, Des Bryant, and the relationship he

814
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: had with Ray Sherman, the receivers, and then when they

815
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 4: rang when Garrett range ray Sherman off the mother dude

816
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 4: who came in there. By the end, it was your boy.

817
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 2: Derrick DOOLEYO Young Dooley, not the Dooley truck.

818
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 4: Sometimes you need an assistant coach who can talk to

819
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Speaker 4: the player. George Entwards had a good relationship with Michael Parsons.

820
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 4: George Edwards is gone, so I do believe along the way,

821
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 4: you know, a good assistant coach can really make a

822
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 4: big Troy Aickman had North Turner be its presenter. David

823
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 4: Schuley was the original offensive coordinator for me. It was

824
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: north Turner who came in here towards turned my career around.

825
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 4: So you know, a good assistant coach who can really

826
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,359
Speaker 4: relate with players and get them on there.

827
00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: It helps.

828
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: So to answer your questionnaire. That sometimes becomes a thing

829
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 4: of who can relate to the player or do they

830
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: hire someone who is a part of the organization that

831
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 4: can really like, hey, hey, let me talk to you.

832
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: I think that matters when I look at the Mavericks.

833
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 4: Hiring Jason Kidd over Rick Carlisle was a different dynamic

834
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: for Luka Dancic because Jason consider up here.

835
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: Even though Rick played in the league and a.

836
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 4: Championship kid, Jason, I know what you're going through, and

837
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 4: that mattered to because Luke at him like like, there's

838
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: a lot of people don't like Rick, but Rick can coach. Yes,

839
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 4: I'm saying so for real thing. I mean what he's

840
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 4: doing Indiana, I mean, Rick can coach is real. But

841
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 4: Luca didn't like him, and it was to the point

842
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: where Rick was smarter than that. I'm gona go ahead

843
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,919
Speaker 4: and hit this exit before before this young fella gets

844
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: me going. But Kid, come in. He made a big

845
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: what's happened with Kyrie Irving? Nobody gets Jason Kid enough

846
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: credit for because that's the one dude that Kyrie Kyrie

847
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 4: treat him like he treats We don't need a coach, right,

848
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: never talk about like like so it matters. So that's

849
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 4: kind of my point there. All right, we got to

850
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 4: get out of here. But Jerry Jones on one O

851
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,240
Speaker 4: five three of the Fan was asked about eating raccoon

852
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 4: and he said, oh yeah, no way, it's a delicacy

853
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 4: and then talked about his real real and talking about

854
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 4: his mom had made it made squirrel and he had

855
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 4: a real affinity for eating squirrel and that you know,

856
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 4: eating the squirrel brain was uh, it was delicious and

857
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 4: it was a fight for it at his table and

858
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 4: he didn't fight for his sister and his mom. They

859
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: enjoyed that. So he's from Arkansas.

860
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: My folks are.

861
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 4: From Birmingham, Alabama, and my dad talks to me about

862
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 4: many of the times of what they ate, Like they

863
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 4: were poor.

864
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: When you poor, that's what you squirrel.

865
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when I was a kid and they

866
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: would throw out the pig ears and pig field. I

867
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 4: look at it like no, but over there they grew

868
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: up eating that. So when you were poor, Jerry grew up.

869
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 4: Jerry grew up poor. You know they, or I should say,

870
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 4: he didn't grow up rich. He didn't grow up like

871
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 4: you didn't know you.

872
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: Ate stuff like that.

873
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 4: You went out there, you stuff like that that today

874
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: I'm good.

875
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: Good.

876
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 4: You go down to New Orleans. You got a new

877
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: one man. You go to New one Man, they serving

878
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 4: some stuff. I remember the time man had we ate

879
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: some frog legs out there one Super Bowl and then

880
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 4: I was at this place, uh called Butcher, and we

881
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 4: ended up seeing Scott Shanley over there. No Scott, but anyway,

882
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: they're like, we have some jaw, yeah, jall.

883
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: Like what's that?

884
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 4: It's like the jaw, the jaw of the pig like, yeah,

885
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 4: we're gonna eat.

886
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 2: Some of that pigs right now. It was like bacon,

887
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 2: like bacon. It was like I was eating baking right.

888
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 2: We're good. I'm gonna tell you man.

889
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 4: The guy's like, no, he's eat if you don't like it,

890
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 4: he said, if you don't like you like bacon, yeay.

891
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: If you don't like this, I'll get you something all right.

892
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 2: You know it was so good. I got one to go.

893
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: I got one to go, put in the fridge and

894
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: had later on.

895
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: That night with some cool Now you're good with Carmelone.

896
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: Carl Malone loves squirrel He'll talk about he said, man,

897
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: squirrel stew, squirrels. He was like the forest gun do

898
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 4: you started name and all the things you.

899
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: Eat with squirrel?

900
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 4: Squirrel stew uh squirrel du It was hilarious, man, Carl.

901
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 4: When when I worked in l A, Carmelon had a show,

902
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 4: he talked about how much he enjoyed eating squirrels. So

903
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: Jerry talking about et scrowges reminded me of Carmelone. What

904
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 4: is carmelo with Jerry? Carl from Louisiana, Jerry for Arkansas, Dude,

905
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 4: when you don't grow up with a whole lot of money.

906
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: Many that's anxiety today right out back. And guy I

907
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: grew up, poor no Cliff with the Williams Chicken. I

908
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: don't know if was near. I don't know either.

909
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 5: Some chicken is out. It was somewhere to go. Boys,

910
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 5: What you're talking about? Squirrels? The hamburger Man something like

911
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 5: they want survivors. That is going on, squirrel brain, Yo,

912
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 5: season it with some lowries.

913
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: Ya crazy? Is that? No way? City? Boys? Down one

914
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: meat church on Holy Bod Halloween. That tastes good. Some

915
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 2: eggs with your squirrel brains. Mix it up, Holy Boodle season.

916
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 2: It tastes good. Man Church. We scrugged roud.

917
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,440
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918
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