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It's presented by our sponsor, Interactive Brokers. 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: President Biden has ended the immediate threat of a government shutdown. 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 2: He has signed a temporary spending bill that extends government 16 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 2: funding into early next year. Bloomberg's Amy Morris has the 17 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: details from Washington. 18 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: President Biden signed the legislation yesterday while in California for 19 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: a summit of APEC leaders. The bill maintains existing funding 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: levels and pushes a fight over the federal budget into 21 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: the new year. When Housublicans say they will push for 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 3: stiff spending cuts. It splits the deadlines for passing full 23 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 3: year appropriations bills into two days January nineteenth for some 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: federal agencies February second for others. This short term package 25 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: allows lawmakers to regroup over the Thanksgiving holiday while talks 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 3: continue on spending in policy agreements in Washington. I maye 27 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: more as Bloomberg Radio. 28 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: Sorry, Amy, thanks by the stopgap bill does not include 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: funding for Ukraine and Israel. In fact, new usaid for 30 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: Ukraine risks slipping to mid December and maybe longer, casting 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: doubt on Washington's ability to keep up the flow of 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: weapons that both the Biden administration and the Ukrainian governments 33 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: say is vital as soon as Congress could complete negotiations 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: and pass new Ukraine assistance his mid December, nearly two 35 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: months after President Joe Biden first requested sixty one billion 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: dollars for the country in its war against Russia. 37 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Well, now, Karen, let's turn to the latest on the 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: war in the Middle East. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Natanyahu 39 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: is defending his country's raid on the Alshifa Hospital in 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: Gaza City. He says, Israeli troops uncovered a Hamas command 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: center underneath the facility. 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 4: We had concrete evidence that there were terrorists chieftains and terrests. 43 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: There are terrorists minions in the hospital, and in fact 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 4: they fled as our forces approached. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 5: They fled. 46 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 4: That's why we had no firefight. We entered that hospital 47 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 4: with Arabic speaking Israeli doctors with incubators and we had 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 4: no firefight. But Hamas was using the patients in that 49 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 4: hospital as a human shield. 50 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Prime Minister n Antanyahu spoke on the CBS Evening News. Meanwhile, 51 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 2: the Israeli military says it has taken control of Gaza's harbor. 52 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: People in the southern city of Conyunis say Israel has 53 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 2: dropped leaflets telling them to seek shelter and sirius as 54 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: it's intercepted some Israeli missiles aimed at targets in Damascus. 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: Well back in the U, asked Nathan. The Asia Pacific 56 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Economic Cooperation some it is wrapping up in San Francisco, 57 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: and we're learning more about President Biden's deal with China's 58 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: Sheshin Ping to crack down on Fentanel. The White House 59 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: agreed to remove a Chinese organization accused of human rights 60 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: abuses from its sanctions list change for Beijing's WHO operation 61 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 1: about an administration official tells Bloomberg taking the Institute of 62 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: Forensic Science off the Commerce Department's entity list was the 63 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: only way for the US to make progress on the 64 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: Fentandel crisis, and. 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 2: At the APEX Summit, Karen the CEO of Alphabet, said 66 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: he expects China to be at the cutting edge of 67 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence development. Speaking with Bloomberg, Soon Darpshai warned the 68 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: world's two biggest economies will have to work together on 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 2: developing a framework for AI. 70 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 6: My senses, there is no way you make progress over 71 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 6: the long term without China and the US deeply talking 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: to each other on something like AI. So I think 73 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 6: that has got to be an integral part of how 74 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 6: you make progress. So I think I'm glad to see it, 75 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 6: and you know, we have to lay the foundations. The 76 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 6: good thing is we are still in early days of 77 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 6: the technology. 78 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: Alphabet CEO Soon Darpuchai's comments come after business titans including Apples, 79 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: Tim Cook, and Black Rocks Larry Fink, attended dinner with 80 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 2: China's president on the sidelines of the APEC summit. 81 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, Nathan, we're seeing fall out this morning from Elon 82 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: Musk's endorsement of an anti semitic social media post. A 83 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: Tesla investor is calling for must to resign, and IBM 84 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: has now suspended its advertising on X because of the 85 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: proximity of its ads to Nazi posts. Bloomberg's Ed Baxter 86 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: has the story. 87 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 7: This comes amidst a swirl of controversy surrounding X and 88 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 7: Elon Musk. In the past couple of days, watchdog group 89 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 7: Media Matters reported out that IBM, Apple Oracle, Exfanity, and 90 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 7: Bravo all had a placement. IBM opted off, saying IBM 91 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 7: has zero tolerance for hate speech and discrimination. Meanwhile, the 92 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 7: White House has reacted to a Musk post so that 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 7: it says is anti semitic. NC spokesman John Kirby. 94 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: We certainly abhorror comments that are anti Semitic in tone 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: and certainly don't associate ourselves with the comment. 96 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 7: Musk endorsed a post that said the Jewish community pushed 97 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 7: hatred toward whites in San Francisco. I'm at Baxter Bloomberg Radio, okay, 98 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 7: and thank you. Moving to mark It's now we're watching 99 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 7: shares of applied materials in the pre market. They're down 100 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 7: more than seven percent. Reuter's is reporting the largest maker 101 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 7: of chip making machinery in the country is facing a 102 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 7: criminal investigation for allegedly violating export restrictions to China. The 103 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 7: report says the Justice Departments looking at whether Applied Materials 104 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 7: sold hundreds of millions of dollars of equipment without the 105 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 7: proper licenses. 106 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: And Nathan, the escalating fight between the US and China, 107 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: where technological dominance has triggered one of the most stunning 108 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: reversals of corporate strategy yet. Ali Baba Group has walked 109 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: back plans to spin off in list it's eleven billion 110 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: dollar cloud business. Ali Baba shares dropped nine percent yesterday, 111 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: wiping out more than twenty billion of market value. 112 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 2: On the flip side, Karen Watching shares of Gap they 113 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 2: are hired by more than eighteen percent. The retailer reported 114 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: third quarter profit that exceeded forecast. Same store sales fell 115 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 2: for a fourth straight quarter, but that decline was less 116 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: than expected. Stronger results at Old Navy, GAP's biggest brand 117 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: offset weakness at Athleta and Banana Republic. 118 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Crude oil has collapsed into a bear market Nathan. It's 119 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: down twenty percent from its September high. CRUs run of 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: four straight weekly decline so long as losing streak since 121 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: May has come despite collective and voluntary supply cuts by 122 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: the Organization of petroleum exporting Countries and its allies. The 123 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: losses have also been embedded by the evaporation of an 124 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: Israel Hamas war risk premium as fears the conflict would 125 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: expand and disrupt oil supplies have so far not materialized. 126 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: And it's time now for a look at some other 127 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: stories making news around the world, and for that we're 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: joined by Bloomberg's Amy Morris. 129 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: Amy, Good morning, Good morning, Karen. The pressure is building 130 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 3: for New York Congressman George Santos to resign or face expulsion. 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 3: It follows a scathing House Ethics Committee report. Bloomberg's Nancy 132 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 3: Lyons has that story. 133 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 8: Committee Chairman Michael Guest says the evidence uncovered in the 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 8: House investigation is more than sufficient to warrant punishment, and 135 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 8: he plans to file an expulsion resolution. Wisconsin Republican Congressman 136 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 8: Brian stone File tells Bloomberg's sound on the findings are alarming. 137 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 2: The illegal actions that are set forward in this report 138 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: are incredibly concerning. 139 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 8: The report alleged Santos used campaign money to pay off 140 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 8: his personal bills and to make luxury purchases. Santos responded 141 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 8: to the report saying he would not run for reelection 142 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 8: in Washington. Nancy lyons Bloomberg Radio and. 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: That expulsion resolution Nancy was talking about is expected to 144 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: be filed by nine o'clock this morning in Washington. A 145 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 3: New York appeals court says the gag orders imposed on 146 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: Donald Trump by the judge in the state's civil fraud 147 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: trial against him are unconstitutional, and the restrictions were put 148 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 3: on hold pending for their arguments. The decision is a 149 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 3: major win for Trump, who has publicly lambasted the judge 150 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 3: overseeing the case and accused him of frampant bias. This 151 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 3: is just one of six trials Trump is facing as 152 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 3: he seeks re election. California officials say a section of 153 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 3: Interstate ten in Los Angeles that was damaged in a 154 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: fire last week will reopen earlier then expected. Governor Gavin 155 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 3: Newsom's said the mile long stretch of interstate will be 156 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: open to traffic again weeks ahead of time after the 157 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: state doubled the crews working on those repairs. 158 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: One thing we can guarantee you is we will be 159 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: opened five lanes in both directions at the latest Tuesday 160 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: of next week. 161 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 3: Fire officials say the fire was deliberately set in an 162 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: arson investigation is ongoing. Secretary of State Antony Blincoln yesterday 163 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 3: signed a civil nuclear cooperation agreement with the Philippines. At 164 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: the signing ceremony, Secretary Blincoln said it is part of 165 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,959 Speaker 3: the US support for clean energy projects there with the. 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 5: Philippines leadership, we're also working together to develop a nuclear 167 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: energy sector in their country to fuel a reliable, secure, 168 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 5: and affordable clean energy future. 169 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 3: The agreement allows the US to legally export nuclear equipment 170 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: and material to the Philippines for peaceful uses. Global news 171 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: with Bloomberg News Now. 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It is time now for the Bloomberg Sports Update, 183 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: and here's John stash Hour, John Karen. 184 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 9: Big game in the AFC North the kickoff week eleven 185 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 9: the Bengals and the Ravens. They both had four game 186 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 9: industries come to an end this past Sunday. All the 187 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 9: More started things off with a seventy five hour touchdown drive. 188 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 9: The Ravens then trailed in the second quarters. 189 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 3: Edwards in the backfield. Lamarta throw fires down the middle. 190 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:48,439 Speaker 9: It's deflected at part, have a reflection. 191 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 7: Milsan Hagalore twenty fifteen come bo. 192 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 3: Heflected for six. Hagle a deflection. 193 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 9: Rave into the end zone Wbal. About a minute a 194 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 9: half later, another Lamar Jackson TD passed. The Ravens beat 195 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 9: the Bengals thirty four to twenty. Baltimore's eight and three 196 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 9: and in first place. Cincinnati is just five and five 197 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 9: and in the last place NBA and Miami. They he 198 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 9: won their seventh in a row. Jemmy Butler scored thirty 199 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 9: six in a win over Brooklyn. Oklahoma City made it 200 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,839 Speaker 9: five to last six, winning one twenty eight one to 201 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 9: nine at Golden State. The Warriors have lost five in 202 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 9: a row. They're just one and five at home. They 203 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 9: went thirty three at and eight at home. Last year. 204 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 9: They rode out the injured Steph Curry and without the 205 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 9: suspended Draymond Green. MLB owners approved thirty to nothing in 206 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 9: the move of the Oakland A's to Las Vegas, and 207 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 9: they waive the relocation fee. The A's will be in 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 9: Oakland in twenty twenty four, but the plan is to 209 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 9: beat a new stadium in Vegas by twenty twenty eight. 210 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 9: It's unclear where they might be playing in between. It's 211 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 9: the first time an MLB team has moved in Montreal. 212 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 9: Expos went to Washington in two thousand and five. Baseball 213 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 9: has given the twenty twenty five All Star Game to Atlanta, 214 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 9: who had it taken away after that voting law was 215 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 9: passed in twenty twenty one. 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 7: John Stasha our Bloomberg Sport. 217 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: From coast to coast, from New York to San Francisco, 218 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 5: Boston to Washington, d C. Nationwide on SYRIASXAM, the Bloomberg 219 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 5: Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg. 220 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 2: Daybreak, Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. China will be at 221 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,439 Speaker 2: the forefront of artificial intelligence. That's what the CEO of 222 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 2: Alphabet soon Dar Pashai, is saying. He says it is 223 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: important for the US to collaborate with China on both 224 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 2: regulation and innovation when it comes to AI. Pieshai, along 225 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: with executives from Microsoft, City Group and Tesla, have been 226 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 2: meeting with Chinese President Shi Jinping and US President Joe 227 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: Biden at the APEX summit in San Francisco. After those meetings, 228 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: the Alphabet CEO joined Bloomberg's Emily Chang and told her 229 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: the world's two biggest economies do need to work together 230 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: on AI regulation and development. 231 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 6: It's not going to be easy, but I would start 232 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 6: from this PREMI is that AI will proliferate, So this 233 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 6: is not the inherent nature of software. AI advances will 234 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 6: get out to in all countries, and so it is 235 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 6: naturally the kind of technology. I don't think there's any 236 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 6: unilateral safety to be had. We all have a shared 237 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,959 Speaker 6: incentive to solve for safety. You know, you could have 238 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 6: AI go wrong in one country that will impact every 239 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 6: other country. So in some ways, it's like climate change. 240 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 6: In the planet. We all share a planet. I think 241 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 6: that's true for AI. So now that you know that 242 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 6: that will be true, I think you have to start 243 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 6: building the frameworks globally to make progress. I've seen encouraging 244 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 6: progress when the G seven happened in Hiroshima, I think 245 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 6: it was a good start. You've seen more progress the 246 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 6: Uki summit last week. The administration here, the White House 247 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 6: has been leading the way as well, and I saw 248 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 6: good encouraging announcements even yesterday for US in China to 249 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,479 Speaker 6: start having a dialogue on AI. 250 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 10: Well, that was my next question. Should Chinese regulators be 251 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 10: part of this conversation on AI regulation? 252 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 6: My sense is there is no way you make progress 253 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 6: over the long term without China and the US deeply 254 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 6: talking to each other on something like AI. So I 255 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 6: think that has got to be an integral part of 256 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 6: how you make progress. So I think I'm glad to 257 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 6: see it. And you know, we have to lay the foundations. 258 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 6: The good thing is we are still in early days 259 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 6: of the technology, so laying the foundations now will allow 260 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: us to work through the tough issues and build a 261 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 6: common framework over time. 262 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 10: How do you think AI? And obviously the US presidential 263 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 10: election coming up as well. How do you think AI 264 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 10: is going to further test election integrity? 265 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 6: I think you know, over time, it's going to lower 266 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 6: the barrier for creating you know, artificial information which may 267 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 6: or may not matror what's happening in the real world, right, 268 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 6: and that barrier will come down. So in this cat 269 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 6: and mouse game, how do we amp up our defenses 270 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 6: against that. We are in early stages, right. You know, 271 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 6: we were one of the first companies to announce a 272 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 6: water marketing technology for image generation. It's called Synthide, done 273 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 6: by deep Mind, and we are providing API access to it. 274 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 6: But all of us need to tackle it. These are 275 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 6: areas where regulation will have to play a role, right. 276 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 6: I think governments will have to overtime pass regulations about 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 6: what is okay for you some of this synthetic content 278 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 6: and so, which is why I think you have to 279 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 6: think about it together. 280 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 10: Open AI CEO Sam Mollman has said repeatedly he wants 281 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 10: to know more about what's happening with AI in China. 282 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 10: What do you know and what do you not know 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 10: about where China is on AI. 284 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 6: From what I can tell, they're making deep investments in AI. 285 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 6: The scale of AI research talent in China. It's just 286 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 6: simply astounding to see. So I think, you know, in 287 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 6: some ways this question, China is going to be at 288 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: the forefront of AI, and you know, I think that's 289 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 6: a given. And so the question is how do we 290 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 6: work over time, both for you know, other countries to 291 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 6: make sure you're making progress in AI and over time, 292 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 6: how do we develop the frameworks where you know, countries 293 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 6: can coexist peacefully in a world in which AI will 294 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 6: be you know, everywhere. 295 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 10: You know, President Biden actually just said he doesn't see 296 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 10: the USD coupling with China, but the world does seem 297 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 10: to be on a path to two separate internets. Do 298 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 10: we continue in that direction? And what does that mean? 299 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 6: It's tough to say. You know, things go through in phases. 300 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 6: I think we are definitely in a phase where there 301 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 6: are more forces pulling it apart. But you know, inherently 302 00:15:54,360 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 6: these technologies also facilitate easy exchange of information, so I 303 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 6: think there are countervailing forces as well, So I think 304 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 6: it's tough to predict. 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