1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday, Eric Torris, 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: Jason Martin. We are broadcasting live from the tirerac dot 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Com studios tyrec dot com. We'll help you get there 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road has protection 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: over ten thousand recommended installers. Tyreck dot com. The way 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: tire buying should be. We are on the verge of 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: a potentially ground shaking Saturday night in college football, number eleven, 8 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Clemson about to lose, as de Segre just told you. 9 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 1: To Louisville. They trail thirty three to fourteen about three 10 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: minutes to go. It would be their second loss of 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: the season. Texas A and m rink tenth in the country, 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: trails South Carolina again as Desagre just told you, thirty 13 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: to twenty with five twelve to go. And also Tennessee 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: not quite but sort of on the ropes. They're up 15 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: twenty one to eighteen with ten thirteen to go. Jmark. 16 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Before we get to college football, though, I just want 17 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: to put something on everybody's radar that Martin Weisse he 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: was just on minutes ago with with VJ. Husky just 19 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: sent me Jay mart This is from Shamscharani and this. 20 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: Is the no. 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Did you see this? 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 3: No, but you said Sham, so now I'm interested. 23 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: This is the official account of Shams Turania. I checked 24 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: even after Martin sented to me. This is not a 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: burner account. Seventy six Ers Joel Embiid got an altercation 26 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: with a columnist following tonight's game in Philadelphia. Embiid took 27 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: issue with a recent column that referenced his late brother 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: and son, and Embiid shoved the columnists. No punches thrown. 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: So don't know if there's video, don't know if there 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: will be any type of availability. Obviously we are we 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: are reacting to this in real time. The Philadelphia seventy 32 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: six Ers did play earlier today against Memphis. They lose 33 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: one twenty four to one oh seven at home. Joe 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: lmb has not, I believe, played yet this season, so listen. 35 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to start speculating too much too soon 36 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: on anything, but this is late breaking news and it 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: does uh, you know. 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 2: I I don't know. 39 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's gonna be a video. I 40 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know what the reaction will be. 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: But Joe L. 42 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Embiid apparently got into a shoving match with a Philadelphia 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: newspaper confidence dam Mark. 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 3: Well, that's a great start to the year for Embiid. 45 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: But we gotta go. We gotta figure out exactly what 46 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: happened in all the circumstances. But man, that's that was 47 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: not what I was expecting you to know for sure. 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: Well, when Martin White just sending me a thank you, Martin, 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: I know you're listening in the hallways here. Probably stuff 50 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: hasn't even gotten to the car yet. 51 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: Uh. 52 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: You know, you see something from Schaan's late breaking you 53 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: know you're curious what it is. I'll say, you know, 54 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: weird vibes in Philly right now, man, you know, listen, 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: they're they're one in four after tonight. You know, Joel 56 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 1: Embiid has not played yet this year. Paul George has 57 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: not played yet this year. I think there's some real 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: tension in that market, you know, especially by the way 59 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: I'll say and listen, I don't know all the circumstances whatever. 60 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: But Joel Embiid, you know, played every game of the 61 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: Olympic Summer Tour, except of course when he got bench 62 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: by Steve Kerr. Now can't play. Yeah, it just feels 63 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: like it feels like there's been it feels like there, 64 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: it feels like that organization is at a little bit 65 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: of a crossroads. By the way, MB did get some 66 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: tough questioning yesterday saying, quote, I've done too much for 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 1: this city for people to say that I don't want 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: to play. And of course, remember Jay Martin, I know 69 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: you saw this headline Joel Embii basically saying probably a 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: week or so before the season, probably realistically he will 71 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: not be playing very many, if any, back to backs 72 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: over the course of the remainder of his career. So 73 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make it feels like there's 74 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: some tension between that star player and that city and 75 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Persham's Tarania. There was some pushing and showing with the 76 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: newspaper calmness today. 77 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: All right, well, you're right about that. I do think 78 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: there's some tension there. I think there's some angst and 79 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: some kind of just aggravation probably on both sides, and 80 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: that's unfortunate, and that's I don't know. I think at 81 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: times you just when you see Embiid miss time and 82 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 3: then on the flip side, Embiid has hurt a lot 83 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 3: as well. Like I don't know that embiid is sitting 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 3: out because of anything other than the fact that his 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: body's just a little bit more fragile than you would 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 3: want somebody at that size to be, especially when you 87 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: know how good he is when he's available and when 88 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: he is out there, and the Sixers of course understand, 89 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: and their fans all know. I mean, they've got no 90 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: chance without him, zero, And so that that becomes more 91 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: frustrating because every year that goes by, it's like, is 92 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 3: this gonna happen over and over or are we finally 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 3: going to break this cycle? And so I do think. 94 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: And it's a sports city where emotions always run high anyway, 95 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: So that's the other side of it. So I guess 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: we'll get more detail on it, but not's with somebody's family, 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: even in print, that could be a little bit much. 98 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll monitor this. I will say I have a 99 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: buddy of mine who does host on the Fox Sports 100 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: radio affiliate down there, So if anything comes out tonight, 101 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: I think he'd be happy to join us. But let's 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: stick with college football. You know, might as well just 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 1: stay in the state of Pennsylvania. Because a Jay Bart 104 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: this is my night, man, this is our night, and listen. 105 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to hear this is the 106 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff era and this that the other thing. 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: But let's go back to big noon kickoff. This afternoon 108 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State, Penn State. Ohio State does win twenty to thirteen. Listen, 109 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take half a second. I am gonna give 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: Ohio State a little bit of credit. You know, starting 111 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: left tackle goes out with injury, backup left tackle goes 112 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: out with injury, the starting left guard, and I thought 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt did a great job of explaining, you know 114 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: that it's not just moving over one spot, that it's 115 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, different position, different responsibilities. The starting left guard 116 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: moves over in Ohio State largely outplays Penn State. Final 117 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: score twenty to thirteen. You know, Frankly, there was a 118 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Will Howard picked six that was the only touchdown that 119 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Penn State scored and you said it to your night, 120 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: j Mart. So I'm gonna give you the floor and 121 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: I'll just set it up by saying this is that 122 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, Penn State loses. James Franklin is now one 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: in fourteen against top five teams, one in ten against 124 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: Ohio State, and just very quickly the final possession that 125 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: Penn State had, they had first and goal on about 126 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: the five three straight run plays right up the middle 127 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: for no yardage, a pass into traffic. They did not 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: obviously get any points. Ohio State got the ball back, 129 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: to their credit, ran out the clock. Penn State never 130 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: gets the ball back, and as I said, they fall 131 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: to seven and one, one and ten against Ohio State 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: under James Franklin. 133 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: J Mart okay, So, and we could talk about the 134 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: play calling and all that in a bit. At what 135 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: point point is Penn State under James Franklin going to 136 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 3: have a legitimate offense? Like I mean, I understand that 137 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: it happened once before and they found their way in 138 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl at that point. But outside of that, 139 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 3: what do you have to show? I mean, Drew Aler 140 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: had one hundred and twenty yards in the game. You 141 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: couldn't run the ball between the tackles pretty much all 142 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 3: day long. We already knew after watching the USC game 143 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: you had a tight end and that was kind of it. 144 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: But the bigger thing is this, So James Franklin in 145 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: the postgame press conference said, this is all on me. 146 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 3: Expectations come with this job. Da da da Dada, I 147 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: said all the right things because there's nothing else you 148 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 3: can say. It is all on him. That's exactly right, 149 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: especially when you get the paycheck that he gets and 150 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: the extensions that he's gotten and all this other stuff. 151 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 3: You said something about Ryan Day a couple of weeks ago, 152 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: and I think it is far more true about James 153 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 3: Franklin even than it is about Ryan Day. But I 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 3: could I can find a lot of people that coach 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: football that can go to Penn State with the kind 156 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 3: of resources that they have, with the tradition that they have, 157 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 3: with the die hard fan base that they have almost 158 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 3: to a fault, with the you know, win loss record, 159 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff, the built in advantages 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: of being at Penn State. I find a lot of 161 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: people that coach football that can come in and can 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 3: beat Minnesota and can beat Illinois and can beat some 163 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: of these teams. With no disrespect to them intended here, 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 3: but you get where I'm going here. Like, the reason 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 3: you get a job at Penn State and you hold 166 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 3: onto it is because you beat Ohio State once in 167 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: a while at least you beat Michigan. You beat the 168 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: teams that you're not necessarily supposed to beat, but at 169 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 3: Penn State you kind of are supposed to beat. He 170 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 3: just doesn't do it. It never happens. And I said, we 171 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 3: talked about the play calls, do it now. That play 172 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 3: calling on the goal line series was some of the 173 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: most just bankrupt I've ever seen. Like it was, they 174 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 3: ran three times right into the teeth of the Ohio 175 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 3: State D line where they hadn't been successful all game. 176 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: And then they had aler throw on fourth down, not 177 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: even to his tight end, but into triple coverage and 178 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: that was it. And they never got the football pack 179 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: because in Ohio State, you know, drowned out the last 180 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 3: five thirteen and won the football game. That's all you got. 181 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 3: You had a trick plays, You had a direct snap 182 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 3: to your tight end on that exact same drive, and 183 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: then you get inside the five first and goal against 184 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: Ohio State, where we know the beef is there on 185 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 3: the d line, we understand the talent. There's dudes that 186 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: are going to be playing on Sunday that you're staring 187 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 3: at and you ran directly into them when you had 188 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 3: had no success doing it at any point during the game. 189 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 3: And then on fourth down you threw the ball when 190 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: everybody knew it was coming. No one was surprised at 191 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 3: that point that you tried to quote get creative unquote 192 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 3: by throwing the football on fourth down. A lot of dudes, Aaron, 193 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: they can come in and win the kind of game 194 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 3: that James Franklin has won at Penn State. There are 195 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 3: very few that can come in and win the games 196 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: that he hasn't won. And those are the guys that 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 3: you got to go out and find. Those are the 198 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,679 Speaker 3: guys that you go out and extent. Those are the 199 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: guys that you go out and break the bank for. Eventually, 200 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: you got to stop running into the same brick wall. 201 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: You got to stop doing the same thing and not 202 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 3: calling yourself insane. James Franklin is a good football coach, 203 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 3: but at this level he is very mediocre. I think 204 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: this is the Peter Principal, like, he gets to this 205 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 3: point where he gives you enough hope if you're a 206 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 3: Penn State fan to think maybe this is going to 207 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 3: be it. Maybe it's not just that we've played a 208 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 3: bunch of cupcakes. Maybe it's not just that we barely 209 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 3: outlasted a USC team that's one of the worst in 210 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 3: recent memory. Is certainly one of the worst in Lincoln 211 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: Royway's tenure as a head coach anywhere. Maybe we're actually 212 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 3: good this time around. We've even gotten fooled into thinking 213 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: it a couple of times, and now you look at 214 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: it and you see no, Penn State's exactly who they 215 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 3: always are. They beat nobody, they have a high ranking. 216 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 3: Then they bring somebody into the house that's good and 217 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: they lose. They lose a physical game where they can't 218 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: score any points. You just mentioned the only touchdown in 219 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 3: the game came courtesy of a Will Howard pick six 220 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,559 Speaker 3: in the first quarter, and outside of that, Penn State 221 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 3: was getting yards about as much as you and me 222 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: would have if we were out there. It's got to 223 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: be better than that at Penn State. That the expectation 224 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: is higher. James Franklin's right. Expectations come with the job, right, 225 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 3: and I expect you not to have the job at 226 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: some point when you don't do that. And I'm waiting 227 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 3: for when that's actually gonna happen really quickly. 228 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: A name you mentioned, Lincoln Riley USC does fall at Washington. 229 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 3: Total they're terrible. 230 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: Twenty six twenty one is the final. We'll talk about 231 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: that on the other side USC now. 232 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 4: Four and five, four and five, oh and three, zero 233 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 4: and four and true road games whatever it is own 234 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: four I guess, including Maryland and Minnesota among others. 235 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: Let's stay on Penn State. So listen what you said. Yeah, 236 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: I agree with one hundred percent, and I think you 237 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 1: know and this is something you and I have tried 238 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: to be careful about all year long. Is this new 239 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: twelve team playoff. You're you know what this and that 240 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: like Penn State, Okay, like okay, So Penn State is 241 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: going to like probably almost certainly make the twelve team 242 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: college football playoff. Kay, But at a certain point, like 243 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: it's just I think the frustration has to boil over 244 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: if you're a Penn State fan for all the reasons 245 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: that you said, is that, yes, you might make that 246 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: twelve team college football playoff, but if you literally never 247 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: beat teams that are equal to or better than you, 248 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: it's like you're gonna get to the playoff and get 249 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: smoked by whoever you play all. 250 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: Always looking forward to seeing them get beat by three 251 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,319 Speaker 3: touchdowns by one of the other teams in the playoff 252 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 3: because they don't measure up. I understand they were number 253 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 3: three entering the game. But this proved what I think 254 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 3: we all thought by the eye test, which is that's 255 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: not the third best team in the country. It's just not. 256 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: No. And obviously I'm not a big Ryan day guy 257 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: goes without saying, but I feel like I should have 258 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: put more weight into like, oh, they probably should have 259 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: lost to USC and that's like basically the only you know, 260 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: team of the pulse that they've played so far. For 261 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: lack of a better term, but no. I mean, that's 262 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,599 Speaker 1: where I think my frustration would be if I'm a 263 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: Penn State fan and I'm not. Is just the idea that, 264 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's getting to a certain level 265 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: and then never getting over the hump, never getting over 266 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the hump, And I just think that's where I would 267 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: I think that's where the frustration has to be. If 268 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: you're a Penn State fan, Yes, you can still make 269 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: the twelve team college football Playoff. Yes in theory, any hypothetical. 270 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: Does you know anything that you wanted to achieve this 271 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: season is still on the table. I guess technically a 272 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: Big Ten championships kind of out of your control at 273 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 1: this point. The only point I'm trying to make is 274 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: that yes, it's all in theory on the table. The 275 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: problem is is that you have literally, over eleven years, now, 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: twelve years, whatever, it's been shown zero proof that you 277 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: could actually do anything, and it's just gotten to the 278 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: point where to me, it's like, Okay, cool, you're probably 279 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: gonna make that twelve team playoff, but at some point 280 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 1: can you get a win of note? And it just 281 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like it's gonna happen. And so I 282 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: think that's that's the only point that I'm trying to make, 283 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: is that like, is that basically at a certain point, 284 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: if you're a Penn State fan, you just have to 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: be so frustrated solely because of the fact that you know, 286 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: like like you're you just gotta be banging your head 287 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: against the wall of like, we will never ever, ever 288 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: ever be able to win the games that we need 289 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: to win to have the seasons that we want to have. 290 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: And as you said, I know, Ohio State, it's a 291 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: good team with a good job, with good players and 292 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: all that stuff, but at some point you gotta beat 293 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: them at some point, And I just think if you're 294 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: a Penn State fan, you gotta be shaking your head 295 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: saying this is never gonna happen with this guy as 296 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: the coach. 297 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 3: So I don't, like I said, you know, I don't 298 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: do social media really at all anymore. But I will 299 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 3: go to like the athletic where they have their discussion 300 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: section where I can look at what both fan bases 301 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 3: are saying to each other during the game, or I'll 302 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: go after and see what people think. And I saw 303 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 3: a comment from a Penn State I don't know if 304 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: he's a student or whatever after the game, has said yeah, 305 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: twenty million dollar roster makes a big difference. I'm like, dude, 306 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 3: you can spend the money too, Like Penn State's got 307 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 3: a ton of money. They got a pretty good law 308 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 3: school with Penn State, I mean, they got a lot 309 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 3: of pretty. 310 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: Rigual the largest alumni like alumni base of any school 311 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: in America. I could be mistaken on that, but I'm 312 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: pretty sure their alumni association is the largest in the country. 313 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: Like I'm not saying they have spent twenty million dollars, 314 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: but they're capable of it. Like you can't then say, well, 315 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars makes a difference, right, But that's now okay. 316 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: Like in this new world of college football, quiet like 317 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 3: if they want to spend it, you have the exact 318 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 3: right that they do. They're not doing anything wrong. So 319 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 3: what you're saying makes absolutely no sense. Like, just quiet down. 320 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: You lost, and the reason you lost is because your 321 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: head coach is on game day usually not up to 322 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: snuff in these big games against these big teams. I 323 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: understand it's hard to win, but you're right, it's never 324 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: going to happen. And he's one in ten against Ohio State. 325 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: They never beat any of the good teams. And then 326 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 3: he sits down in the postgame and he says, is 327 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: this all on me? Right? You're fired? I'm sorry. That's 328 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 3: what I'm saying. If I'm at Penn State, Like at 329 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: some point, are you gonna do something different? At some point, 330 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: are you're gonna bring in somebody and give them a chance? Like, again, 331 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 3: bring somebody in. They can keep losing the games he loses, Like, 332 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 3: you're not gonna fall that far behind. 333 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: No, Now, it's it is. It is bad one and eleven, 334 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: as I said against Ohio State. By the way, I 335 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: did look it up. According to largest dot org slash 336 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: culture slash college alumni networks, Penn State has the number 337 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: one alumni network in the world with these with seven 338 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: hundred or at least of American universities seven hundred and 339 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: fifty thousand active total living alumni, so the money could 340 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: be there. And I don't think money's the issue. I 341 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: just think it's it's that they just can't get over 342 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: the hump, and it is wild. I'll say this really quick. 343 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: Two things and then we got to get to break 344 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: and get to some other stuff. One, like you said 345 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: that offense was was so good early when they had 346 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: Saquon and to never be able to replicate that in 347 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: any way, shape or form is incredible. Two I heard this, 348 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was a pretty good point. James Franklin 349 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,639 Speaker 1: came up as a wide receiver coach and j Martin, 350 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: who's the last wide receiver that they had, Jacklon Dotson. Probably, Yeah, 351 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: that's pretty much it. As I was saying that, I 352 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: realized that he did play for them. But it's like, 353 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: you know, you look at Ohio State and we can 354 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: criticize Ohio State for this that the other thing. But 355 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith Marvin Harrison Junior a Mecca book Jack R. 356 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 3: Smith. 357 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, he's one hand. So it's like, how 358 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: do they not have one guy that can separate, get 359 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: open whatever. I don't know, but I think, you know, 360 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: we're we're kind of, you know, kind of beating a 361 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: dead horse at this point, literally and figuratively. I just 362 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: at some point, you just you gotta win one of 363 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: these games. And it is Usherans repeat because year after 364 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: year after year, it is the same story. Penn State. Now, 365 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: what was the stat I said? One in fourteen against 366 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: top top five teams under James Franklin, one and eleven 367 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: against Ohio State. Fox Sports Radio enter towards Jason Martin 368 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the tyreck dot com studios. There is 369 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: a lot to still get to. Okay, so this is 370 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: a chaotic night in college football. Texas A and M 371 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: came in as the only undefeated team in SEC play. 372 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: They're down twenty four points at South Carolina. Speaking of 373 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: South Carolina, Clemson trailing Louisville by twelve with under a 374 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 1: minute to go. We'll come back. We'll react to that. 375 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, we gotta talk to usc 376 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: Trojans fight on not so much because they just lost 377 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: again to fall to four and five this season. What 378 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: is wrong with the Trojans. We'll discuss all that next 379 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. 380 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 381 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 5: the nation. 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Staying in the same state, Louisville 400 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: beats eleventh ranked Clemson thirty three to twenty one. Texas 401 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: A and M. Week ago we were singing their praises. 402 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: They end up losing this game. They fall to seven 403 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: and two South Carolina five one hundred thirty four yards 404 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: of total offense two hundred eighty six yards rushing almost 405 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: seven yards per carry. So that Texas A and M 406 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: team that was alone in first place coming into today 407 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: takes the loss. We now, by the way, have a 408 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: five way tie in the lost column in the SEC. Georgia, 409 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: Texas A and M, Texas Tennessee and LSU all sitting 410 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: there with one loss. J Mart first weekend in November. 411 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: You remember the text I sent you right before that 412 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 3: game kicked off. 413 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: You said South Carolina would win if Texas A and 414 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 1: M didn't pay attention. 415 00:20:55,160 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 3: Yep, said You'd better be careful with this one doing 416 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 3: this because this was my night and this is not 417 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: a my night thing to say. But I'll tell you 418 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 3: who was laughing a lot this evening. That politician that's 419 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 3: a talker. Did you see? 420 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: Elko tried to claim that he wasn't talking about Jimbo. 421 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 3: Well, there was some speculation he was also potentially talking 422 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,959 Speaker 3: about Brian Kelly. Who was his opponent on the field. 423 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 3: But I think he was clearly talking about Jimbo by 424 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 3: the way, we discussed that. But you could have maybe 425 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 3: tried to get there. But no, Elko, what are you doing? 426 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 5: Dog? 427 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 3: We know exactly what you were doing. And it was 428 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 3: all right, Like again, you were trying to talk to 429 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: your people and you took a side swipe and did 430 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 3: you not think people were going to recognize what you 431 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: were talking about? 432 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? First of all, let me say this is two 433 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: things on it, because even before we got off air 434 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: last Saturday, the Brian Kelly speculation began. Listen, whenever you 435 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: think about Brian Kelly, two things. One, you can call 436 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:58,119 Speaker 1: Brian Kelly a lot of things. There has never been 437 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,439 Speaker 1: a time in his sixty plus years walk in this 438 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: face of the earth that he's been called a fast talker. 439 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: He is not a fast talker. The other thing I 440 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 3: would see as a politician though you know that's what 441 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 3: he did before he was in coaching. 442 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: Yes, he is a politician, he is not a fact. 443 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: The other thing I would say, Elko said something the 444 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: effect of a bs er. You can criticize Brian Kelly 445 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: for a lot. He ain't a BS or as a 446 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: matter of fact, sometimes he's not enough of a BS, 447 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: or he says too much of what's on his mind 448 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: at that time. So except that was a pretty big BS. Yeah, 449 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: that was pretty bad. 450 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: Okay. 451 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: And he's a bad dancer too, Okay, okay, so uh okay, 452 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: I gotta get back out track here. 453 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 454 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay. So I did not much like Texas A and 455 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: M media covering the game last week. I was not 456 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: ready for that one. Uh, Texas A and M takes 457 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: a loss. Listen, you know what all I'll say, first 458 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: of all, shout out South Carolina man, and you know, 459 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: a couple of things on them. One could have maybe 460 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: should have bet in Alabama about two weeks ago. And 461 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: then of course, listen, they lost to Alabama by two 462 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: LSU to buy three. So that's a pretty good team. 463 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: But the story is Texas A and M. And it 464 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: was funny because another thing you sent me was kind 465 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: of some playoff odds and listen, I still think it's 466 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: a little early to get too deep into that, but 467 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: I will say, Texas A and M, the pathway was there. 468 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: Now you look at the schedule, you know they're seven 469 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: and two right now. They have of course lost on opening 470 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: night to Notre Dame. They lost tonight to South Carolina. 471 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 1: Next week they have New Mexico State, then they close 472 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: at Auburn and Texas. I don't think it's hyperbole to say, 473 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: you know, for the Texas A and M perspective, that 474 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: Texas game, you're probably playing to go to the SEC 475 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: Championship and also to go to the playoff. I think 476 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: if you lose that game, it's hard to see the 477 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: scenario nine to three when you probably lost three to 478 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 1: three of what the four biggest games on your schedule, 479 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: or certainly the biggest two if you had lose to 480 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: Texas and Notre Dame at that point. So you know, 481 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: I know it's a little early to start looking too 482 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: far ahead, but they're seven and two, They've already lost 483 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: to Notre Dame, they lose at South Carolina tonight, still 484 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: have Texas on the schedule. So yeah, I don't know 485 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: what the takeaway is, but I'm just kind of setting 486 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: it up, you know what I'm saying. 487 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it wasn't good for Texas A and M. 488 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: I think the odds jump jump from in the forties 489 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 3: to twenty two percent after the loss, and you're right, Like, 490 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 3: the schedule doesn't necessarily afford them that great an opportunity, 491 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: and they had the issue coming in of not being 492 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: high ranked to start the season, and so they made 493 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 3: it all the way up to number ten. And now 494 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 3: you lose this game to a South Carolina team, which 495 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: again is a pretty good team, but certainly a team 496 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 3: that's still growing into itself and is still capable of 497 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 3: losing some games that are close and things like that. 498 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, here's the question, because we've 499 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 3: talked about both of them. Now, which one of you 500 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 3: think is a better football team? Text S and M 501 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 3: or Penn State. 502 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: I would take Texas A and M. I don't know what, 503 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: which is. 504 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 3: A huge indictment against Penn State because I don't think 505 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 3: A and M is that good. I'm not even sure 506 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: that the quarterback switch was the right decision. 507 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, you know, let me ask you, let 508 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: me actually ask you this. So looking at the schedule, 509 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 1: we won't go into everybody's schedule, but Georgia still plays 510 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: at Ole Miss next week, and then they host Tennessee 511 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Texas and Texas A and M still play Texas has 512 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: Texas has four SEC games left which is crazy. I'm 513 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: just gonna ask you. I think it's a little hard 514 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: to do on a right now, but how do you 515 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: think this is gonna shake out? Tennessee? It looks like 516 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: is gonna hold on against Kentucky, but they're not playing 517 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: lights out football. They still have at Georgia at Vandy 518 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: to close the season. I'm just trying to figure out 519 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: in my head who I actually like to make that 520 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: ultimate SEC championship game. 521 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Like we talked about so last week, 522 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: with this unbalanced schedule with the SEC, you can never tell. Man, 523 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: you just don't know who's good and who's not, and 524 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 3: or who's not that they're not good, but you know, 525 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: I don't think you recognize how good this team is 526 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 3: compared to this team. It's just it's difficult, and I'm 527 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 3: not sure that there is a fix for it. It's 528 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 3: just kind of part of the imperfection that is college football, 529 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 3: and it's it's got a charm to it, but sometimes 530 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: it can be irritating. In this case, I think it 531 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 3: could be irritating. I don't know, Like I mean, I 532 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 3: watched Tennessee tonight not look very good, but they're gonna 533 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: go ahead and win by double digits against Kentucky because 534 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 3: they just outlasted them in the fourth quarter. But if 535 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 3: they don't start playing better in the first half, they're 536 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 3: not gonna get unscathed through the rest of their schedule. 537 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: And that would mean with Georgia and maybe even somebody else. 538 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 3: Nico wasn't good early, he got better, and then he 539 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: had guys dropping football's and all this other kind of stuff. 540 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: We'll have the Georgia conversation a little bit later on. 541 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: But I mean, really and truly, Texas is still the 542 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 3: team that I believe in the most. But I don't 543 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 3: think any any of these teams like blows me off 544 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: the page. I think they were all capable of being beaten. 545 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: And that's what's gonna make the twelve team playoff as 546 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 3: a whole fun because I don't know that there's anybody 547 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: that you look at and just say Juggernaut can't be 548 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 3: beat a matter of fact, I know you can't say that. 549 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 3: So I do think that makes for a fun playoff 550 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 3: and exciting one that's gonna be very chaotic and probably 551 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 3: not go the way of chalk. So we're gonna have 552 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 3: a lot to talk about, and it's gonna be a 553 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 3: lot of fun. But up until that point, I still 554 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 3: have this same cloud in front of my face every 555 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 3: time I try to make heads or tails of this 556 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,880 Speaker 3: team versus that team, especially in the Southeastern Conference. 557 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. 558 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: Again, as a quick reminder, we have a five way 559 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: tie atop the SEC standings with Georgia, Texas A and 560 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: M Texas Tennessee and LSU all with one loss. Jay 561 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: mart you mentioned Georgia. I want to come back. We'll 562 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: discuss a win that I don't think had anybody feeling 563 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: good about the state of Bulldogs football. Will discuss that next. First, though, 564 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: let's toss it over the news desk first time on 565 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: our show this evening to SAG You're take it away. 566 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: Hello, gentlemen. 567 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: You know we had fourteen games in the top twenty 568 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 2: five of college football here today the higher ranked team 569 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: has lost half of them. Wow, we will get to those. 570 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: There is one still yet to be final, but let's 571 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: be honest, it's been decided for a while. Top twenty 572 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: matchup at SMU as the Mustangs ahead of Pitt forty 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: eight to eleven with about four minutes to go. Pitt 574 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: entered with a seven to zero record and Tennessee has 575 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 2: just won its game. We'll get to that in a moment. 576 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: As for Number one Oregon still undefeated, a win at 577 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: Michigan thirty eight seventeen Michigan's record five and four. Number 578 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: two Georgia over Florida with two touchdowns in about the 579 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: last four minutes in Jacksonville thirty four to twenty. Ohio 580 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 2: State won at Penn State twenty to thirteen, Ohio State's 581 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 2: beating them eight straight years. Number five Miami had to 582 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: come from behind at home to beat Tooke fifty three 583 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 2: thirty one cam Ward five touchdown passes. Seventh ranked Tennessee 584 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 2: is just one at home twenty eight eighteen over Kentucky, 585 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: which falls to three and six. South Carolina at home 586 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: beat a tenth ranked Texas A and N team that 587 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: had won seventh straight Carolina forty four to twenty. The 588 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: final Texas Tech A winner in the reign at eleventh 589 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 2: ranked Iowa State twenty three twenty two on a touchdown 590 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: with under thirty seconds to go. At co number eleven Clemson, 591 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: Louisville beats the Clemson Tigers for the first time ever. 592 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Had been oh to eight all time against him, thirty 593 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 2: three twenty one. The final thirteenth ranked Indiana nine to 594 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: oh now down ten to nine. Thing Early Still won 595 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 2: forty seven to ten at Michigan State Houston with the 596 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 2: upset of seventeenth rank Kansas State twenty four to nineteen 597 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 2: with two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Nineteenth ranked Old 598 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 2: Miss got six touchdown passes from Jackson Dart in a 599 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 2: victory at Arkansas sixty three to thirty one. Twenty first 600 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: ranked Army Is eight to zer. It only led air 601 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: Force six to three at the half with a backup 602 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 2: quarterback twenty to three. The final, Minnesota won at Illinois 603 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 2: twenty five seventeen. You mentioned the playoffs. First playoff rankings 604 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: come out Tuesday. It's a twelve team playoff field now. 605 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 2: The five highest rank conference champions get automatic bids. The 606 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 2: top four get first round bys. First round playoff games 607 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 2: will be at campus sites before Christmas, as for the 608 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 2: quarterfinals for the College Football Playoff Fiesta Bowl on New 609 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 2: Year's Eve. The other three quarterfinals on New Year's Day, 610 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 2: including at the Rose Bowl. Dallas running back Ezekiel Elliott 611 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: is out tomorrow for disciplinary reasons. He was not on 612 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 2: the team flight to Atlanta in the MLS Playoffs, Atlanta 613 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 2: stayed alive, beating Miami two to one on a goal 614 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: in the ninety fifth minute, attending sixty eight thousand For 615 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: that game, NASCAR Infinity Race went to eric Almarola at Martinsville. 616 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,479 Speaker 2: There was an NHL game in Finland again today. Florida 617 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 2: beat Dallas again four to two. As for the NBA 618 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: Golden States without Steph Curry missed the third straight game 619 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: tonight with an ankle injury. Nonetheless, the Warriors were ahead 620 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 2: at Houston by thirty one late in the first half, 621 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: blew that lead, but still won in overtime over the 622 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: Rockets one twenty seven to one. Twenty one one. Toronto 623 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 2: in overtime beat Sacramento Cleveland on a last second shot 624 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,479 Speaker 2: by Donovan Mitchell. 625 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: One. 626 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 2: At Milwaukee, the Cavs are seven and oh. Boston six 627 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 2: and one after its victory at Charlotte. And as we're 628 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: talking college football, I need to say there is no 629 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: late night game tonight. 630 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: I couldn't believed that. 631 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 3: I just told Pat, I'm disappointed. I'm so disappointed. 632 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: I really miss the PAC twelves. I mean I did before. 633 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: I really missed the PAC twelve. Like literally right now, 634 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: at eleven thirty eastern. Well, I told Pat, I said, 635 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 2: I'll put on the Colorado State game. He's like, it's over. 636 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you mean it's over? But yes, 637 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 2: we need it, we need it. Where's the work in 638 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 2: state when you need him? What are we doing here? 639 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 2: Is the latest game tonight? There was about a five 640 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 2: hours worth of weather delays at Rice, so they're just 641 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 2: starting the fourth quarter. Rice leads Navy twenty four to ten, 642 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 2: and Navy is four to oh in the American Conference. 643 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, that game at SMU still has 644 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 2: about four minutes to go. Mustang's over pit forty eight eighteen. 645 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: And this note on Iowa as they beat Wisconsin tonight 646 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 2: forty two to ten. Our Bruce Feldman says the Hawkeyes 647 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 2: for the fourth time now have scored forty points in 648 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: a game this year. That is as many times as 649 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: they did in the previous four years combined. 650 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: Back to you, speaking of the Hawkeyes, they play at 651 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: the Rose Ball Friday night. I'm thinking about going. I 652 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: haven't decided. 653 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 2: You and I were, Sam, I'm gonna make the track 654 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 2: to Pasadena. 655 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: Uh, well, it's not really a trick for me. I 656 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: live five minutes away. But that's right. I didn't even 657 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: know Iowa Sam was there. Now you know, my mom's 658 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: in town. She's never been to the Rose Bowl before. 659 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: It's it's me perfect. It's a thought. It's a thought. 660 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: I haven't made any final decisions yet, but. 661 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 2: As you know, it is one of the great sports US, 662 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 2: not just football. To be watching a game. 663 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: I've been. I was actually at the Michigan Alabama Rose 664 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: Bowl last year, although I had to leave it halftime 665 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: to come host Fox Sports Radio, so I missed the 666 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: iconic finish. But I've been to games there. It's an 667 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: unbelievable place to watch a game. 668 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: It's almost literally no bad seats because it's such an 669 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: old stadium. There are no decks, there are no tiers. 670 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: It's just row one at the bottom row seventy seven eight, Yes, 671 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 2: sir no, So. 672 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: We'll see if I want to go watch AMERICAUS. You know, 673 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't know if you mentioned UCLA 674 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: getting a very nice win today against Nebraska. 675 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 2: Done at Nebraska, which by the way, had missed an 676 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: extra point so they were down seven going on that 677 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 2: last drive. But they didn't have Ryl at quarterback for 678 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 2: the last drive. And yes, Nebraska lost another close game. 679 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 2: We might have a stat on that later. 680 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'll say this really QUI because 681 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: I want to get to break. I looked it up 682 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: today for fun. Last year they were five and three, 683 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: ended up losing their last four games to not get 684 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: boil eligible. But how about this the four losses three 685 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: by a field goal, won by a touchdown in overtime, 686 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: So four losses by a touchdown or less last year 687 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: to get boil eligible. This year they started five to 688 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: one and they've lost three straight, the last two by 689 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: single digits. So the last two years they've had six 690 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: games to get seven games to get boil eligible. They've 691 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: lost six of them by a touchdown or less. 692 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: And this is the stat for maybe last seven seasons 693 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: for Raska football. What is their record in games decided? Oh, no, 694 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: eight points or less? 695 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,680 Speaker 3: O no man. Scott fross Lof's fifty by himself. 696 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it has to be like twenty eight 697 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: and two or some two and twenty eight. 698 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: It's nine and thirty three, and it's the worst in 699 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 2: the country. The last seven years. 700 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: I find it hard to believe they've won nine games 701 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,839 Speaker 1: by a touchdown or less, but by eight or less. 702 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: Maybe I maybe, I like. 703 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 3: Said the thirty three wasn't the problem, it was the fact. 704 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't believe the nine. I don't believe the nine. 705 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,760 Speaker 1: So all right, thank you to say your Fox Sports 706 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: Radio Aer Toards dates Mart will come back. I do 707 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: want to discuss Georgia, Jmart. Uh, they get the win, 708 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: but uh, I don't know how good you should fee 709 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: about it. If you're a Towordia fan. We'll discuss that 710 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: next Fox Sports traty. 711 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 712 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 713 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 714 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 5: listen live. 715 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Aer Tors Jates Marn 716 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Tirerack dot Cam Studios. Didn't want 717 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: to hit on one other game from this afternoon, J Mart. 718 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: We mentioned there's a five way tie in first place 719 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: in the SEC. One of the teams that is tied 720 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: to top the standings in that league is the Georgia Bulldogs. 721 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 1: Georgia did beat Florida today, the Gators thirty four to 722 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: twenty in the World's Artist Outdoor cocktail party rival that's 723 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 1: played every year in Jacksonville, although it is moving. Bring 724 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: it up, J mart A couple things here. So obviously, 725 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 1: we were on air two weeks ago when, of course 726 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: Georgia took care of business against the then number one 727 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,439 Speaker 1: ranked Texas Longhorns to really kind of re cement themselves 728 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: as a major player in college football. But I'll say this, 729 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: J mart you know you played Georgia, you played Florida. 730 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: This today. Florida's original starter Graham Mertz gets hurt a 731 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Their backup DJ Lagway, who was a 732 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,319 Speaker 1: five star true freshman, comes in. He gets hurt pretty 733 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: early in this game, and yet despite it, it is 734 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: a situation where, you know, you enter the fourth quarter, 735 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: it was twenty to thirteen at one point, you know, 736 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: basically it was twenty to twenty. After Florida scored Carson Beck, 737 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: who some people try to claim was gonna be the 738 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: number one overall picking the draft, he throws three interceptions. 739 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: J Martin kind of just feel like, you know Herbstreet 740 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: said during the game. But it's like George almost feels 741 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: like that team that has to be told they can't 742 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: win or they have no shot or whatever, because you 743 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: really look at their performances so far. You know, you 744 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 1: destroy Texas, but other than that, you struggle today. You 745 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: struggle against Kentucky in a game that easily could have 746 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: lost out of the gate. You struggle with Clemson, although 747 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: you win that one going away, and of course the 748 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: Alabama loss is that it feels like there are some 749 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: some stretches of great football with Georgia mixed in with 750 00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,759 Speaker 1: some average and below average stretches as well. What do 751 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: you make of the Bulldogs at this point of the season. 752 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: They're just not They're not Georgia the way that we've 753 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,840 Speaker 3: come to understand Georgia this last stretch, this last few years, 754 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 3: this last three four years, pretty much most of of 755 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: Kirby Smart's tenure. They're not as frightening. They've still got 756 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 3: a lot of talented guys, and a lot of guys 757 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 3: are gonna play on Sunday. I don't think they've got 758 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 3: as many as they have had in years past, though. 759 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: I think they are gonna get hit, maybe not as 760 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 3: hard as some just because they've still got a great 761 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 3: recruiting class and all this, but there's still guys that 762 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 3: would have gone to Georgia in years past that now 763 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 3: won't that now we're gonna go somewhere else to start there, 764 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 3: and it has spread out the talent. I just don't 765 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 3: think you can stockpile the way that you once did 766 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 3: unless you're spending twenty million dollars on the roster or 767 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 3: whatever it's gonna take. And even then, I still don't 768 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 3: think you're gonna have the depth because I don't think 769 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 3: you can pay people to sit on the bench. So 770 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,400 Speaker 3: it's still comes down to what do you have on 771 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 3: the field on a regular basis. I still think they're 772 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 3: very good. But I said to you as we were 773 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 3: watching that game, like I sent you a text, and 774 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 3: I said, I don't think they're gonna win it this year. 775 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:12,359 Speaker 3: I just I just don't. They don't have the look 776 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: of a champion. They have the look of a team 777 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 3: that has kind of skated by a few too many 778 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 3: times for my taste. This year. They have had like 779 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,320 Speaker 3: you said, they had a great second half against Clemson. 780 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 3: They had a good second half against Alabama too, which 781 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 3: you know, made that game really interesting. But one of 782 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 3: the biggest things that we can easily see is that 783 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 3: Carson Beck is just not having a good year at best. 784 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 3: I mean, he's got eleven interceptions. I think in his 785 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: last like four games, he threw three in this game. 786 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 3: They weren't good. He's you see him like putting his 787 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: hands up to his helmet. This is a guy that's gripping. 788 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 3: This is a guy that's feeling pressure. This is a 789 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,720 Speaker 3: guy that doesn't seem to be seeing the field particularly well, 790 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 3: making poor decisions. He's harming his draft stock big time, 791 00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,280 Speaker 3: Like just watching this and he's just not a Again, 792 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 3: I said, as it goes, every year that goes by, 793 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 3: Stetson Bennett becomes better and better. It really does, because 794 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 3: Carson Beck does not have that it factor that Stetson 795 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: Bennett did. Now, maybe Bennett had a little bit more 796 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: talent around him. I'm not suggesting that he didn't, But 797 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 3: Carson Beck is actually something that that team is having 798 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 3: to find a way to overcome far too much this year, 799 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: and I think it will bite them at some point, 800 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 3: even though I do think they'll make the playoffs certainly. 801 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I know you're not on 802 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: social media anymore, but I did almost put out the 803 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: joke of, like, you know, did Stetson Bennett make Kirby 804 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: Smart's career and it's like it was tongue in cheek, 805 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 1: but it is kind of amazing. I mean, you know, 806 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: I again we mentioned we've kind of mentioned this with 807 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy in Michigan. It's like feels like in the moment, 808 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 1: the guy didn't get credit that he deserved and then 809 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: he leaves and you see, Okay, maybe he was better 810 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: than he thought. Feels like the same with Stetson Bennett. 811 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,959 Speaker 1: Georgia does get to win. By the way, two tough 812 00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: games coming up at a will Miss next week, followed 813 00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: by Tennessee. We're gonna find out just how good this joy, 814 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: what your team is? Tell you what J Martin will 815 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: come back? Do you want to talk one more college football topic? 816 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: And we got to celebrate your World Series champion Los 817 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: Angeles Dodgers plus NFL. That's next Fox Sports. Are you 818 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 1: welcome in everybody hour two Fox Sports Radio Tours and Martin. 819 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,279 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios 820 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,760 Speaker 1: tyreck dot Com. But holp you get there an unmatched 821 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: the lection, fast free shit, big free road as a 822 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: protection and over ten thousand recommended installers tyrec dot com 823 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: The way tire buying should be er Torris. Jason Martin 824 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: taking you up till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie 825 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:42,399 Speaker 1: Fratdo of The Bernie Fratto Show follows us. By the way, 826 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: is this it tonight that I we changed clocks? J Martin? 827 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, okay, Chriz, all right? So is that a 828 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: five hour shift for Bernie or a three hour shift? 829 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: You've done it. 830 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 3: It's this is the fallback. This is the five long one. 831 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 3: This is the long one. 832 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,839 Speaker 1: Okay, Bernie Frato, drink your car coffee, buddy, Yep. Good 833 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: thing is Bernie's got plenty to talk about. And so 834 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: do we really quickly, j Mark, because I want to 835 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: move on to you know, just an awesome week in sports, 836 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: Dodgers winning the World Series, and then you know, got 837 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: to get to the NFL. Do want to just really 838 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 1: quickly touch on We mentioned this in Passing an hour one, 839 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 1: and we covered a lot of college football on hour one. 840 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: We'll get back to it an hour three if you 841 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:29,799 Speaker 1: missed any of it. But real quicksc Trojans. They're four 842 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: and five. They are They have lost four of their 843 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: last five, their only win at home against Rutgers. They 844 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: are zero to four on the road. They are currently 845 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: if this is correct, and I don't know it is, Well, 846 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: there's eighteen teams in the Big Ten. They are currently 847 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: in fifteenth place out of eighteen in the Big Ten. 848 00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: J Mart, I mean, is it a what is going 849 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: on with this team? Like they beat LSU in week one, 850 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: and even if we think LSU isn't that good, I 851 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,319 Speaker 1: mean els, he's only lost one other time since then. 852 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,319 Speaker 1: But goodness gracious. They start two and zero, which means 853 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: that they're two and five in their last seven, and 854 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: as I said, they've lost four of their last five. 855 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:17,560 Speaker 1: What do you make of this team? Jmark? 856 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 3: I mean your question, I think is the answer. They're 857 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 3: just not They're not usc the way that you would 858 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 3: expect a Lincoln Rawley team to be. The offense has 859 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: not even been consistent. Moss has not been consistent. They 860 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 3: I'm still trying to figure out exactly how they even 861 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: beat LSUD. You watched that game, You're like, okay, well, yeah, 862 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 3: they played some defense, especially in the first half. Maybe 863 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 3: things are looking a little better for them. Maybe Moss 864 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,279 Speaker 3: actually is gonna be all right. They certainly don't have 865 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 3: all the talent, the skill talent that you're used to 866 00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 3: but at the same time, like, this is not what 867 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 3: you signed up for if you're USC and this is also, 868 00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 3: I think, not what you signed up for or if 869 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 3: you're Lincoln Riley. And that's why I predicted not that 870 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 3: he would be fired, but he may show himself out now. 871 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,440 Speaker 3: Maybe not because he's getting so much money and maybe 872 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: he wants to stick around longer or whatever. But if 873 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 3: it were me, I'd want out because I don't think 874 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 3: it's gonna get better. I just there's something, there's something 875 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 3: functionally wrong there that I don't know that there's this 876 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 3: giant fix coming. I know that they've got a lot 877 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,720 Speaker 3: of money and all this stuff. But at the same time, 878 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 3: if the bloom is not off the roads in terms 879 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 3: of his offensive mind, there's always gonna be an NFL 880 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,640 Speaker 3: team that wants an offensive head coach, and Caleb Williams 881 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 3: may need one at the end of the year. And 882 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 3: so you look at that and you could easily see 883 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 3: a scenario where Lincoln Riley is near the top of 884 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: a list for the Bears. Now, if you're a Bears 885 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 3: fan listening, that might not be what you want to hear. 886 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 3: But Lincoln Riley knows that a coach offense, we think, 887 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 3: and we have seen plenty of evidence of it and 888 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 3: how he has made quarterbacks better throughout the years. But 889 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,239 Speaker 3: this is a disaster. It really is, because this is 890 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 3: a team that I think a lot of people had 891 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 3: either borderline or in the College Football Playoff this year. 892 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,399 Speaker 3: And not only are they not gonna be that, they're 893 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 3: not even gonna be in the vicinity of it. I'm 894 00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 3: not even sure they're gonna let him buy tickets to 895 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 3: watch one of those games with some of the teams 896 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 3: that are good enough to be in there. It is. 897 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,360 Speaker 3: I don't think it's like sometimes it's hyperbolic to say 898 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,080 Speaker 3: some you know, some of the extremes, but I do 899 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: think it's a disaster. I really do. Like this is 900 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 3: this has been a terrible year for USC and it's 901 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 3: this is not how you want to enter the Big 902 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 3: ten either, Like this is not a good It's just 903 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: a terrible introduction and it cannot be fun for Lincoln 904 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 3: Riley at all right now, which is why I'm just 905 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 3: keep I'm gonna keep my eye on it because if 906 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 3: he's not there next year, I will not be surprised. 907 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 3: And again, I don't think it's because they're gonna let 908 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 3: him go. I think it's gonna because he might let 909 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:53,719 Speaker 3: himself go. 910 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, only saving grace. And I know it's not what 911 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: anyone wants to hear right now, But as I said, 912 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: four and five, all five losses have come by a 913 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: touchdown or less, three of them by a field goal 914 00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: or less, and four of them are on the road. 915 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 1: So one, if you never had to play on the road, 916 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: you know, that'd be really you know, you'd be unbeatable basically. 917 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: But a lot of them, by the way, you know, 918 00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,239 Speaker 1: you either had a lead at halftime. You know, the 919 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,640 Speaker 1: Penn State, Minnesota and Maryland games you were in control 920 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,440 Speaker 1: of for about three quarters, couldn't put them away. But 921 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,319 Speaker 1: USC for people just joining us, did lose twenty six 922 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,400 Speaker 1: twenty one at Washington. They fall to four and five, 923 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: two and five in the Big Ten, zero to four 924 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: on the road, and currently in fifteenth place in the 925 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,120 Speaker 1: Big Ten standings. Right now, let's stay in La j Mart. 926 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: We spent a lot of time the last two weeks 927 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: talking college baseball and Major League Baseball World Series. We 928 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: were blessed to have John Paul Morosiat each of the 929 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: last two Saturdays, and just want to kind of wanted 930 00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,600 Speaker 1: to put a bow on the season. Dodgers did have 931 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 1: their victory parade yesterday, you know what, just for fun 932 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,560 Speaker 1: for people who didn't hear it, there weren't a lot 933 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: of great sound bites. Show Hey Otani did speak. I 934 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: thought it was really special when he did say a 935 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: few words in English. But probably the most memorable thing 936 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,160 Speaker 1: that came out of the Dodgers celebration came from Key 937 00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:18,000 Speaker 1: k Hernandez. 938 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 3: There we got a New York in this guy. He 939 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 3: used to be fat, He's not fat anymore. 940 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 5: His name is Joe. He came out of sad and 941 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,360 Speaker 5: guess why we didn't even. 942 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 3: Need to play because after that performance, we had already won. 943 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: That was keyk Hernandez at the Dodgers victory celebration. J Mart, 944 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: don't know if you had a fat Joe taking strays 945 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: on the bingo card of the Dodgers Championship parade. But uh, 946 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: I will say living in La and and and you know, 947 00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 1: I actually want your perspective because we have such an 948 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: La bias here in the Fox Sports radio studios. But 949 00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was an awesome day yesterday for the 950 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: fans and the fan base. I mean, I think it's 951 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: so easy to forget. Listen, you don't forget that there 952 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: was no parade in twenty twenty, but hadn't won a 953 00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: World Series since eighty eight. That was the first Dodgers 954 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: Championship parade since nineteen eighty eight, well over thirty years. 955 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: And I thought, especially for a guy like Clayton Kershaw 956 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,399 Speaker 1: that's been there ten, twelve, fifteen years, whatever, I thought, 957 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: it was a really cool day. Maybe it's because I 958 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: live in LA but thought yesterday was an awesome day 959 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: for Dodgers and their fans. 960 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, man, of course it was. And it's very 961 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 3: bittersweet for me one because I'm a Braves fan, but 962 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 3: I think in doubly so because I love watching what 963 00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 3: Freddie Freeman did and I hate it at the same 964 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 3: time because that's one of the most historic performances you'll 965 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,960 Speaker 3: ever see in the World Series and it wasn't in 966 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 3: a Braves uniform. Even though he won a championship with Atlanta, 967 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 3: that's gonna go down as the greatest moment of his career. 968 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 3: I think in terms of like how it's perceived and 969 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 3: how he played. Now for him, it may be the 970 00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: Braves Championship. I understand how much being in Atlanta men 971 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 3: to him. But that was hard just to watch him 972 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,439 Speaker 3: dominate but and know that he still could be doing 973 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: that for us. But that said, the Dodgers were the 974 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,719 Speaker 3: better team. There were the team that showed up in 975 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,520 Speaker 3: all the games. They were the team that made the 976 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:23,440 Speaker 3: fewer mistakes. They came up clutch when it had to 977 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 3: be done, and the Yankees self destructed. Dave Roberts outmanaged 978 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 3: Boone severely in the series. I think just watching it, 979 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,959 Speaker 3: the Yankees had talent, but a lot of the talent 980 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,279 Speaker 3: didn't show up consistently enough. But more than anything else, 981 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,759 Speaker 3: like the Dodgers just they looked like a champion. And 982 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 3: they looked like a champion from Game one on. And 983 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,720 Speaker 3: this is one of those whereas this was not a fluke, 984 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,400 Speaker 3: this was not man if they played ten times, they'd 985 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: win two of them. Know that they were just better. 986 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,479 Speaker 3: They just were. They were far better defensively. They made 987 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 3: key plays on defense throughout the series that the the 988 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,880 Speaker 3: Yankees simply could not duplicate. And even the base running 989 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 3: and just the little stuff, the Dodgers got it right. 990 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 3: They were the best team. They deserve to be the champions. 991 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,799 Speaker 3: That was just a really strong performance all around for 992 00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 3: everybody in a Dodgers uniform. So even as a Braves fan, 993 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,280 Speaker 3: as difficult as it is for me, to see anybody 994 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 3: in the National League, especially a team that I've never 995 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:32,279 Speaker 3: really cared for, do that they are beyond deserving, Like 996 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 3: they were a great, great team, and this is how 997 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 3: it should end, especially with what you paid and all 998 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 3: of those things. And for those fans. And I know 999 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 3: if you and Danny G's a friend, and you know, 1000 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 3: I remember in the mornings just us sending messages back 1001 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 3: and forth, him hating on the Braves, me hating on 1002 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 3: the Dodgers. But and we have of course mutual friends 1003 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 3: throughout Fox that are big time Dodgers fans. But they 1004 00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 3: were the best team in baseball and in the World's 1005 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 3: I don't even think it was close. I just I 1006 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 3: think one team really showed that they were going to 1007 00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 3: win the title and they did. 1008 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, and this is I'm 1009 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 1: curious from the outside perspective. I was thinking about this 1010 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: during the World Series because I didn't I didn't grow 1011 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: up a Dodgers fan by any stretch. I grew up 1012 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 1: on the East Coast. But you know, since I've been 1013 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,279 Speaker 1: here my wife. My wife's a Dodgers fan, and you 1014 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,839 Speaker 1: kind of get wrapped up into it, into it when 1015 00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: you're in the city. Especially for me, that's not like 1016 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 1: a diehard day in, day out baseball guy. But I'm 1017 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: curious what is the outside perception on like the Dodgers 1018 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,919 Speaker 1: and how they spend their money, because I was thinking 1019 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: about this watching the World Series. It's like, you go 1020 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: back to the late nineties early two thousands, and we 1021 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 1: all remember the Yankees dynasty with Jeter and Petted and 1022 00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 1: Rivera and whatever, and they just felt so unlikable. And 1023 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,439 Speaker 1: it's like you watch the Dodgers and I know they're 1024 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,520 Speaker 1: spending more than everybody, and they've got the three MVPs 1025 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:56,759 Speaker 1: and dah da da dah and whatever. But it's like, 1026 00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,839 Speaker 1: you know, Freddie Freeman, you know, huggin is after Game 1027 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: one and we know his son's going through some stuff, 1028 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 1: and you know, Mookie Bets just seems like the consummate 1029 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: teammates even show. Hey, I mean, he struggled, but you 1030 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,839 Speaker 1: know you could tell his heart was in the right 1031 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,120 Speaker 1: place even though he's struggling. He's playing through that that 1032 00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,840 Speaker 1: injury that we saw during game two last Saturday. I 1033 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how I would feel if I was 1034 00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: like a diehard of one of their competitors. But it's 1035 00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,399 Speaker 1: like they seem like a likable group despite the fact 1036 00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: that they clearly have resources that basically nobody else in 1037 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: baseball has. 1038 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 3: H Yes, I mean I think that's true. I definitely 1039 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,919 Speaker 3: think that. I'm like saying it through gritted teeth. Yes, 1040 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,760 Speaker 3: they're likable there, you know they're they're not. There's certainly 1041 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 3: not a bunch of polarizing guys that are hard to 1042 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,399 Speaker 3: root for. For sure. It's certainly Freeman. I'm always gonna 1043 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,040 Speaker 3: root for Freddy Freeman. There's not not gonna be much there. 1044 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 3: But you're right about Bets. I mean, Bets says that's 1045 00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 3: just class acting. He's great player, he's a great defensive player. 1046 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,840 Speaker 3: He goes at it sold every single time. Yeah, I 1047 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 3: agree with you. I think I think everything you're saying 1048 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 3: is accurate. It's it is just one of those situations 1049 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 3: where that team should have won it coming into the year. 1050 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 3: You can look at it and yeah, there were some 1051 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,880 Speaker 3: teams that underperformed. Mine was one of them. Dealt with 1052 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 3: injuries and all this other kind of stuff. But at 1053 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 3: the same time, like the Dodgers had to cash one 1054 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,920 Speaker 3: of these in at some point like this, this was 1055 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 3: getting to be one of those if not now, then 1056 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:30,640 Speaker 3: when kind of situations. This was exactly what And I 1057 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 3: also think this is what you wanted if you were 1058 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:34,640 Speaker 3: baseball this year. You got the perfect World Series in 1059 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 3: terms of the matchup, you got good ratings numbers. And 1060 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,279 Speaker 3: then past that show, hey, o Tani wins the World 1061 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 3: Series his first year in LA and then you have 1062 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 3: this storyline up where is Sodo going Is are the 1063 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,560 Speaker 3: Yankees gonna find a way to keep him? Is it 1064 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,359 Speaker 3: gonna go cross down to the Mets. He says he's 1065 00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 3: open to any team in the league. Basically, he just 1066 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,399 Speaker 3: wants to get paid. And he's the one guy in 1067 00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,760 Speaker 3: that lineup in the World Series that you could count 1068 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,960 Speaker 3: on pretty much throughout the series. Almost everybody else had 1069 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,800 Speaker 3: a dry spell except for Soto. So he made himself 1070 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,960 Speaker 3: more money, whether or not it's in New York in 1071 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,239 Speaker 3: the same uniform, New York in a different uniform, or 1072 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 3: somewhere else. But yeah, this was the perfect scenario for baseball. 1073 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 3: I watched a lot of this World Series, maybe not 1074 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,520 Speaker 3: every out, but at least eighty eighty five percent, and 1075 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,920 Speaker 3: it was just it was entertaining, even if you felt 1076 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,760 Speaker 3: like you knew how it was going to end. 1077 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt. And by the way, I would say, 1078 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: I don't think for most of Game four and five, 1079 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:36,759 Speaker 1: you did feel like you knew how I mean, you 1080 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,279 Speaker 1: felt like you knew how it was going to end, 1081 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: but you didn't really know. And you know, listen, I mean, 1082 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure every host on this station has their own 1083 00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,160 Speaker 1: story of what they were doing during Game five. But 1084 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,280 Speaker 1: you know, my wife and I were sitting there watching 1085 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 1: it and she's like, I can't watch this anymore. And 1086 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,120 Speaker 1: we were about and I said, let's watch one more bat, 1087 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,320 Speaker 1: And of course that was the fifth inning where everything changed. 1088 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's weird for a you know, five game series. 1089 00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,439 Speaker 1: Game five was essentially a throwaway with the bullpen game 1090 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,960 Speaker 1: we got, you know, pretty much every game except for 1091 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,879 Speaker 1: Game three was pretty entertaining. But the Dodgers, they do 1092 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 1: get the victory and they are your World Series champions. 1093 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: First time since twenty twenty, first time with a parade 1094 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,399 Speaker 1: since nineteen eighty eight. Fox Sports Radio aer Tors Jason 1095 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com studios will 1096 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: come back. We'll switch to the NFL where one team, Jmart, 1097 00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 1: I don't think they're getting a parade this year, the 1098 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,320 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Parade of Tears. 1099 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,440 Speaker 3: Maybe that parade out of town or some of the people. 1100 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we got to discuss that next because they're 1101 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: not very good right now and I don't see a 1102 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: pathway to get much better. We'll talk Cowboys next. Fox 1103 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. 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Right here on Fox Sports Radio and 1112 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app. J Mart, do want to switch gears 1113 00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,680 Speaker 1: to the NFL? And I have a little bit of 1114 00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,719 Speaker 1: a confession to make something I probably should not say. 1115 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: On National Sports Talk Radio but I'm gonna do it anyway. 1116 00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:37,000 Speaker 1: Last Sunday Night, forty nine Ers Cowboys, two biggest brands 1117 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:42,400 Speaker 1: arguably in the NFL. I had to turn it off. 1118 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: Mary on your p's and Q Sidney. 1119 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,840 Speaker 3: Can you can? I give you an even bigger confession. 1120 00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:51,280 Speaker 1: I mean, play the music. 1121 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 3: Mary. I have to. 1122 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:56,640 Speaker 1: Say it again. 1123 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 3: I never turned it on. 1124 00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: You never turned it on. 1125 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,520 Speaker 3: I knew there was no point. 1126 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: It's bad. I mean, yeah, it is, you know, and 1127 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: we're being facetious, but we're not. Is like the Cowboys. Listen, 1128 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 1: anybody that listens to sports talk, anybody that watches sports TV. 1129 00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, the Cowboys move the needle. They are so 1130 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,120 Speaker 1: unwatchable right now, and I mean literally to your point, 1131 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: you turn it on. I had a turn. I can't 1132 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,600 Speaker 1: do it. They're so bad. They lose to San Francisco 1133 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty four. But here's the bottom line. It 1134 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: was over going in the fourth quarter. They're down twenty 1135 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,760 Speaker 1: seven to ten. You know, put up a couple scores 1136 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: late to make it look interesting. It was not. They're 1137 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,520 Speaker 1: so bad. I mean, it's just to me. And we've 1138 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: talked about it a million times, but I remember saying 1139 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,280 Speaker 1: it two three years ago if they had a window 1140 00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: when Micah and CD and all these guys were on 1141 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,600 Speaker 1: rookie contracts. They are not. They have lost four of 1142 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,840 Speaker 1: six after the season opening winning against the Browns, most 1143 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 1: of them in embarrassing fashion. I mean, they got destroyed 1144 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: by the Saints. The Ravens game was very similar to 1145 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,840 Speaker 1: the Sunday night game against San Francisco. They it wasn't 1146 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,280 Speaker 1: close and they made it close late. And of course 1147 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,640 Speaker 1: the embarrassing loss to the Lions where the Lions are running, 1148 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, shovel passes to the offensive tackle, you know, 1149 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,840 Speaker 1: with eight minutes to go in the game. I don't 1150 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: know what there is to say, you know, listen, I 1151 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,640 Speaker 1: feel like everyone probably on this network has said everything 1152 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: there is to say about this situation. But they're not good. 1153 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,280 Speaker 1: There's no pathway to getting better, and I think worse 1154 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: than anything. J Mart, like, they're not even fun to 1155 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: watch it. Oh yeah, and it's like, you know, we 1156 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,919 Speaker 1: could go through the league. I mean, there is I think, 1157 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 1: to me, a reason of pretty much watch just about 1158 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,240 Speaker 1: every team in this league. And there are teams that 1159 00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: aren't good, but you could take something from them, you know. 1160 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think, off the top of my 1161 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,600 Speaker 1: head right now, Chicago bears my not be good. But 1162 00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,280 Speaker 1: you want to see what Caleb Williams is doing. 1163 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,640 Speaker 3: I got one that that's not and that's the one 1164 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 3: in the city that I live in. 1165 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they're they're the most unwatchable team in 1166 00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:12,080 Speaker 1: the league, I think, But they're they're horrendous. But it's 1167 00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:13,920 Speaker 1: the Cowboys though. But you know what I'm saying, Like, No. 1168 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 3: I know the Cowboys are inherently supposed to be interesting 1169 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 3: just because of the uniform they wear. 1170 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,920 Speaker 1: Yes, is there a pathway to get it better? Is 1171 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:22,640 Speaker 1: there a pathway? 1172 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,120 Speaker 3: Not? Not? Not this year? And look when we came 1173 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 3: into the year, I said I had him under five 1174 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 3: hundred because I just it didn't feel right in the 1175 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,040 Speaker 3: off season. Now, did I think it was gonna be 1176 00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 3: this bad? No? But you got backfighting, you got chirping, 1177 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 3: you got coaching, coach and owner, and the radio. You've 1178 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:43,160 Speaker 3: got players going after the radio. You've got all of 1179 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,520 Speaker 3: this kind of stuff. You've got Dak Prescott, who I 1180 00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,280 Speaker 3: don't even know at this point how much of it 1181 00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,000 Speaker 3: is even on him. I kind of feel sorry for him. 1182 00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,360 Speaker 3: I agree quite frankly. The defense hasn't been very good, 1183 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,560 Speaker 3: and they've been banged up and hurt going into the year. 1184 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,800 Speaker 3: Nothing has looked good. McCarthy, I mean, McCarthy's another one, right, McCarthy's. 1185 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 3: You kind of know what you're gonna get it. It's 1186 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,960 Speaker 3: gonna be fine. But you're the Dallas Cowboys. Shouldn't you 1187 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 3: try to get better than that? Like it should be. 1188 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 3: The ceiling on this team is not high and the 1189 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 3: floor is much lower than we thought. Like this is 1190 00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,800 Speaker 3: far worse, I think than most of us could have 1191 00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 3: envisioned coming into this year. But in terms of a fix, 1192 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 3: absolutely not. There's no free agent you can bring in 1193 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 3: it's gonna change it around. There's no scenario. This just 1194 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 3: put on the year. Honestly, your best player, I heard 1195 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 3: this from somebody, maybe multiple people in sports media. Your 1196 00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 3: best player right now might be your kicker, no doubt. 1197 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 3: I mean really, And that's look he's good. That can't 1198 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 3: be the case. That can never be true. It just 1199 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 3: can't be. And for it to be that way, and 1200 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 3: you're the Dallas Cowboys at some point, you know, Jerry 1201 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 3: Jones is more stubborn than we think, because he's kept 1202 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,960 Speaker 3: coaches far longer than he needs to win multiple situations. 1203 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:06,840 Speaker 3: He continues to meddle in public and meddle even behind 1204 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,040 Speaker 3: the scenes and all this stuff, like at some point 1205 01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 3: he either needs to back away or he needs to 1206 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 3: actually make some moves and then let the guys do 1207 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 3: what they're paid to do. And until he gets out 1208 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 3: of his own way and out of their way, I 1209 01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:23,160 Speaker 3: don't think anything's going to change. I don't know that 1210 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: it's just a McCarthy problem or just at this problem 1211 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 3: or just to that problem. But I do know that 1212 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 3: guys like Michael Parsons are going to want to go 1213 01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 3: somewhere else soon. And you don't want to lose him, 1214 01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,720 Speaker 3: and you don't want to upset Ceedee Lamb, and you 1215 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,960 Speaker 3: don't want all of this infighting, and you don't want 1216 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 3: all of this mediocrity. And we said last week, and 1217 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:42,600 Speaker 3: I think it is now almost for sure or true, 1218 01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,640 Speaker 3: they're the worst team in that division. I think they're 1219 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 3: worse than the Giants. I do. I think there are 1220 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 3: more playmakers right now on the Giants than there are 1221 01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,480 Speaker 3: on the Dallas Cowboys. Eagles we know they are and Washington, 1222 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 3: which that should never be the case for rookie quarterback 1223 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:05,040 Speaker 3: in Washington Washington is one of the most exciting teams 1224 01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 3: to watch in the league, no doubt. And that's just 1225 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 3: if you're the Dallas Cowboys. Just hang your head in shame, 1226 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 3: like this season is over, but it's gonna be painful 1227 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,200 Speaker 3: for the fans, and you're gonna get put on television 1228 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 3: in these afternoon windows anyway because you're the Dallas Cowboys 1229 01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,360 Speaker 3: in your draw ratings. I'll tell you somebody else. I 1230 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 3: feel bad for Tom Brady because we just have to 1231 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 3: call a lot of this direct. 1232 01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Hey, really quick. This is a total pivot that I 1233 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 1: don't think that I didn't prep you on. I know 1234 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,160 Speaker 1: he's sort of our coworker. Do you have any strong 1235 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: opinions on Brady doing the ownership slash broadcasting thing. 1236 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:49,959 Speaker 3: It's weird and I can understand why you might kind 1237 01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:54,480 Speaker 3: of balk at it, But I don't know that it 1238 01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 3: matters because, I mean, his ownership is that gonna affect 1239 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 3: how he talks about the team. It's like if he 1240 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 3: calls a Patriots game, is there a problem? If Romo 1241 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 3: calls a Cowboys game, is there a problem? Like there's 1242 01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 3: I don't his ownership stake's not gonna affect what he 1243 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,920 Speaker 3: says I that doesn't bother me all that much. Like 1244 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 3: I felt like that was a little bit blown out 1245 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:17,919 Speaker 3: of proportion. When oh, well this is going to create 1246 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 3: all sorts of issues. I kind of shrugged my shoulders. 1247 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,760 Speaker 3: I don't know this is that big a deal. 1248 01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, I do think it is 1249 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 1: a little like get him Todd. Yeah, it's like, dude, 1250 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,320 Speaker 1: you're getting paid thirty seven million dollars a year to 1251 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 1: broadcast games and you want that cut of the pie too. 1252 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:38,200 Speaker 1: It seems a little like he should have to choose. 1253 01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,800 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not his employer and I'm not 1254 01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:43,919 Speaker 1: the NFL, and so it's not my place to say. 1255 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 3: I I. 1256 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,960 Speaker 1: Don't love it, and I'm with you. I don't think 1257 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,439 Speaker 1: it's like the biggest conflict of interest. But I saw 1258 01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: somebody say it might have been. I can't remember who's 1259 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 1: you know, there's a million people talking NFL. But it's like, 1260 01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,920 Speaker 1: at some point you gotta choose. You want to be 1261 01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,240 Speaker 1: a front office guy, you want to be a broadcaster, Like, 1262 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: just just pick one and go with it. But yeah, 1263 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, tom Brady, But yeah, Tom Brady's called far 1264 01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,400 Speaker 1: too many cowboys. If there's anything that's gonna drive him 1265 01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: out of broadcasting. It might not be the ownership thing, 1266 01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,000 Speaker 1: might be having to go to Dallas every week to 1267 01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 1: talk about that team. So Fox Sports Radio Era towards 1268 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tyreck dot Com sudis, 1269 01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: we'll come back talk about another certainly precarious situation in 1270 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:27,080 Speaker 1: the NFL, this one in Indianapolis. Joe Flacco's back, baby, 1271 01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,400 Speaker 1: But what does it mean for Anthony Richardson. We'll discuss 1272 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: that next to Sega, though, Let's get into the news desk. 1273 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,000 Speaker 1: What's trending to Sager? 1274 01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,560 Speaker 2: And for those who didn't hear, Dallas running back Ezekiel 1275 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,480 Speaker 2: Elliott is out tomorrow for disciplinary reasons. He was not 1276 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 2: on the team flight to Atlanta. Speaking of which, tonight 1277 01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 2: is an anniversary. November the second, twenty twenty one, this 1278 01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,000 Speaker 2: occurred on Fox TV. 1279 01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 3: West Side Swanson to first. 1280 01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 2: Brands closed down a world series title on this night. 1281 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Betch you should have gone we're talking about it at 1282 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the time. 1283 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 6: We were talking about this quite a lot that week 1284 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,840 Speaker 6: on this show about because remember they wound up clinching 1285 01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,320 Speaker 6: on the road and had a chance I think in 1286 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 6: the home game five and then clinched on the road. 1287 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,720 Speaker 2: But tonight is the anniversary of that. You mentioned the 1288 01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 2: World Series. We just finally got a Yankee Dodgers and 1289 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,400 Speaker 2: it delivered the past week, and it delivered in the 1290 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,720 Speaker 2: ratings opposite the NBA on TNT Tuesday, it was about 1291 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 2: one million viewers for basketball for TNT and about a 1292 01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:31,720 Speaker 2: week ago ESPN had NBA and that was eight hundred 1293 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 2: thirty thousand viewers opposite the Game one World Series Classic, 1294 01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 2: and then hockey on ESPN four hundred twelve thousand viewers 1295 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 2: on Tuesday night opposite the baseball and the basketball. 1296 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,560 Speaker 1: Real quick, I think the one hundred thousand nationally. 1297 01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 2: For the NHL for a night. 1298 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:52,360 Speaker 1: Ouch did it ended up out rating on Monday night? 1299 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:56,160 Speaker 1: The Yankees the Giants here, Yes, I believe so. 1300 01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:56,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1301 01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 2: And then the clincher, the Game five comeback for the 1302 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 2: Dodgers at Yankee Stadium, over eighteen million viewers, which means, 1303 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,360 Speaker 2: according to Nielsen ratings, that game outdrew every pro and 1304 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:12,240 Speaker 2: college men's basketball game of the last five years and 1305 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,560 Speaker 2: the series as a whole. These five games Dodgers Yankees 1306 01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,800 Speaker 2: averaged over fifteen million and I read another fifteen million 1307 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,520 Speaker 2: internationally led by Japan. 1308 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 3: Well it only is great TV. It really was like 1309 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,480 Speaker 3: it was. It was even though it was only five games. 1310 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 3: It was a really entertaining five game series. 1311 01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: The fifth game specifically was awesome, Like you know, because 1312 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,080 Speaker 1: people forget you guys, don't. But looking back on it 1313 01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the day after, it's like, Okay, they overcome the five 1314 01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:40,400 Speaker 1: to nothing deficit, then they overcome the six to five deficit, 1315 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: and then they take the seven to sixth deficit and 1316 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 1: immediately boom, Aaron Judges on second base. You're like, the 1317 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:47,800 Speaker 1: tying runs on second base. It was just an awesome, 1318 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:48,800 Speaker 1: awesome Game five. 1319 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 2: I also read it was the first major league game 1320 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,680 Speaker 2: ever playoffs or not that had all those errors that 1321 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 2: the Yankees made all in one game. A catcher's interference, 1322 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 2: a block, five hundred run, all of these things happening 1323 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 2: on the same night. Let's get to college football. Is 1324 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 2: Number one Oregon, still undefeated, was a winner at Michigan 1325 01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 2: thirty eight seventeen. Number two Georgia beat Florida thirty four 1326 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280 Speaker 2: to twenty with two touchdowns in about the last four minutes. 1327 01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:17,240 Speaker 2: But Carson Beck is now the first player for a 1328 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: ranked team in a decade to do this to throw 1329 01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 2: at least three interceptions in a game now for a 1330 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 2: third time this season, but Georgia is seven to one. 1331 01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 2: Ohio State won at Penn State twenty to thirteen. Ohio 1332 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,120 Speaker 2: State's beating them eighth straight years. Miami over Duke in 1333 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 2: a comeback fifty three thirty one. Tennessee Valls ranked seventh, 1334 01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,280 Speaker 2: beat Kentucky tonight twenty eight eighteen, and South Carolina down 1335 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:42,920 Speaker 2: tenth ranked Texas A and m forty four to twenty. 1336 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 2: Aggie's had one seventh straight SMU beat Pitt forty eight 1337 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 2: to twenty five. The late game at Rice is finally 1338 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,680 Speaker 2: final after five hours worth of weather delays, they got 1339 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 2: going for good tonight in the first quarter. They finally 1340 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,720 Speaker 2: resumed and Rice beats Navy twenty four to ten. Navy 1341 01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 2: had and four to zero. In the American Conference, Arizona 1342 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 2: State won at Oklahoma State in a bad weather game 1343 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,040 Speaker 2: today forty two to twenty one. Doug got leaves at 1344 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,480 Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, of course, not only because of basketball reasons, 1345 01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 2: but they're doing the show there. Everybody's out at Oklahoma 1346 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:17,760 Speaker 2: for Monday afternoon show on Fox Sports Radio, so that 1347 01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,520 Speaker 2: got in to this. Oklahoma State came and of course 1348 01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 2: it's a weather delay in the Big Ten Northwestern when 1349 01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:26,760 Speaker 2: in overtime at Purdue Ucla with the win holding on 1350 01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 2: at Nebraska Iowa forty two to ten over Wisconsin, and 1351 01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:34,760 Speaker 2: USC was stopped on its last two drives on fourth 1352 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,000 Speaker 2: downs lost at Washington twenty six to twenty one Huskies. 1353 01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,760 Speaker 2: The final, so USC this season has one of the 1354 01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:44,840 Speaker 2: worst records in games decided by seven points or less, 1355 01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:48,919 Speaker 2: one and five in those situations Kansas zero to five, 1356 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 2: by the way. 1357 01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: What about Nebraska, Yeah, nine at thirty three. 1358 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,479 Speaker 2: That's over the last seven years. Okay, I'm just talking 1359 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:57,560 Speaker 2: about SC this year one in five, seven points are 1360 01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:01,360 Speaker 2: less deciding. Mississippi State was one and seven, but they 1361 01:08:01,400 --> 01:08:03,720 Speaker 2: got to play UMass today and beat him forty five 1362 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 2: twenty and UKNN is six and one at home. Yes, 1363 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,960 Speaker 2: they are beat Georgia State last night thirty four to 1364 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,160 Speaker 2: twenty seven in the NBA Phoenix five and one, after 1365 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 2: beating Portland Boston six and one, after winning at Charlotte 1366 01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,360 Speaker 2: and Cleveland seven and zero after a last second shot 1367 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 2: by Donovan Mitchell goes in to win at Milwaukee. The 1368 01:08:22,120 --> 01:08:25,120 Speaker 2: Bucks are one and five, and you talked about the 1369 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 2: Philadelphia situation at the top of the show Philly's one 1370 01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 2: and four and for all the games so far they 1371 01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 2: have not had due to knee injuries Joel Embiid and 1372 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:36,400 Speaker 2: Paul George. There was the shoving incident with a reporter 1373 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:40,240 Speaker 2: in Philly within b doing the shoving, and the quote 1374 01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:44,640 Speaker 2: from the columnists he shoved had been Joel Embiid consistently 1375 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:46,599 Speaker 2: points to the birth of his son as the major 1376 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,200 Speaker 2: inflection point in his career. He often says he wants 1377 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 2: to be great and lead the legacy for the boy 1378 01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 2: named after his little brother who died in an auto accident. Well, 1379 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 2: in order to be great at your job, you first 1380 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 2: have to show up for work. Embiid has been great 1381 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 2: at just the opposite. He has consistently been in poor condition. 1382 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,600 Speaker 2: That was part of the column. Someone who witnessed the 1383 01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:10,960 Speaker 2: incident today said, in all the shouting Embiid did in 1384 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,480 Speaker 2: the locker room when he saw this reporter, this columnist, 1385 01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 2: he said, you can say I stink, You can say 1386 01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 2: whatever you want to me as a player. Don't ever 1387 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,479 Speaker 2: put my dead brother's name in your mouth. Don't talk 1388 01:09:20,520 --> 01:09:22,920 Speaker 2: about my family. Don't bring him into this. You want 1389 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:24,400 Speaker 2: to talk to me like a man. Talk to me 1390 01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,960 Speaker 2: about basketball, that's different. But if you ever talk about 1391 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,439 Speaker 2: my family again, we're going to have real problems. And 1392 01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:31,719 Speaker 2: they were shoving and team security stepped in. 1393 01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,400 Speaker 1: To sayer, keep that quote handy, So jamar, let's chat 1394 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,639 Speaker 1: about this really quick, Disager, Do you want to read 1395 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 1: the quote from the column again? Really quick? And I 1396 01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: want to set this up. Joel Embiid reportedly, according to 1397 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,560 Speaker 1: Shamsharani and others, got into a shoving match with a columnist. 1398 01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: The columnist referenced his brother who's no longer with us, 1399 01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: and his son, Disager, Please go ahead and read the excerpt. 1400 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:55,759 Speaker 2: That Embiid points to the birth of his son, Arthur, 1401 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,040 Speaker 2: as the major inflection point in his basketball career. He 1402 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 2: often says that he wants to be great to leave 1403 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,040 Speaker 2: a legacy for the boy named after his little brother, 1404 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,640 Speaker 2: who tragically died in an automobile accident when Embiid was 1405 01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 2: in his first year as a sixer. 1406 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,040 Speaker 1: Thank you very much to sagre Jmr Embiid's right, by 1407 01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: the way, Really, dude, I'm all on Embiid's side on this. 1408 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,280 Speaker 3: After listening to that, why do you write the first 1409 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 3: part of that, like, why do you even invoke that part? 1410 01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,599 Speaker 3: You can say he wanted to be great without mentioning 1411 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:25,759 Speaker 3: the rest of it. Yeah, and you got no problem. 1412 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,559 Speaker 3: There's no there's no reason to invoke that because it 1413 01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,960 Speaker 3: doesn't have anything to do with the overall point. You 1414 01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,360 Speaker 3: can say him being great and leaving a legacy. You 1415 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:38,320 Speaker 3: don't have to mention the name at all. I'm on 1416 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,200 Speaker 3: Embiid's side one hundred percent. Keep the family's name out 1417 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:43,360 Speaker 3: of that. That's completely a roll. 1418 01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,720 Speaker 1: Let me play Devil's advocate. If and I don't know 1419 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:51,400 Speaker 1: Embiid's exact quote originally, but if the exact quote was 1420 01:10:51,640 --> 01:10:54,519 Speaker 1: I want to be great to leave a legacy for 1421 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 1: my son or whatever, I guess you. I guess you 1422 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 1: don't have to say that the sun is named after 1423 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 1: the brother who's deceased. But if Embiid has said, uh, 1424 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,639 Speaker 1: you know that this is why I want to be great, 1425 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't think there's I don't have a problem necessarily 1426 01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 1: with referencing the sun if that's if those are Embad's 1427 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: own words. Now do you have to reference that the 1428 01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,000 Speaker 1: sun is named after the dead brother? I don't know, 1429 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 1: but I feel like if this is em Bead's quote, 1430 01:11:24,520 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 1: and you're essentially paraphrasing a quote that he has kind 1431 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:29,719 Speaker 1: of made pretty common knowledge. I don't have a problem 1432 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: with him doing that the columnists. 1433 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 3: No, I mean not not the not I think it's 1434 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,320 Speaker 3: the degree to which he like went into detail when 1435 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. 1436 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:40,680 Speaker 1: The only reason you. 1437 01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:43,200 Speaker 3: Do that is because it's like a rap battle and 1438 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:46,320 Speaker 3: you want the people behind you to go, oh, that's 1439 01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:50,439 Speaker 3: just I do not like that at all. That seems 1440 01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,080 Speaker 3: low brow. And I disagree. 1441 01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: I disagree if you're a if you're a newspaper cap 1442 01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,840 Speaker 1: I I didn't hear that with malicious intent. I think 1443 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,639 Speaker 1: that there could be I think you could have made 1444 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:10,599 Speaker 1: the point without exactly referencing the brother. But I also 1445 01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:13,080 Speaker 1: think like like and I I'd say, this is somebody 1446 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,719 Speaker 1: who has a little bit of a of a print 1447 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,120 Speaker 1: background many years ago. Is like, you know, I think 1448 01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 1: about some of the conversations that I had with my 1449 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: editors about uh, does this need to be in there? 1450 01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:24,840 Speaker 1: Does that need to be in there? I do think 1451 01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:29,920 Speaker 1: the context of if Embiid has said I want my brother, 1452 01:12:29,960 --> 01:12:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, I want you know, I want to be 1453 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: great as a legacy to my son, then I have 1454 01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: no problem with him referencing the sun. If it if 1455 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:44,880 Speaker 1: it contextualizes, like like if it contextualizes, Hey, you said 1456 01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: you want to be great. You know you said you 1457 01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:48,720 Speaker 1: want to be great. This is the reason that you 1458 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 1: told us you want to be great, and you're doing 1459 01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,800 Speaker 1: nothing to live up to it. I didn't really feel 1460 01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,000 Speaker 1: like that was malicious at all. 1461 01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 3: I agree with what you're the way you're describing it. 1462 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,360 Speaker 3: It's not there though. It's because there's a comma, and 1463 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,760 Speaker 3: then he can take there's no reason to invoke the 1464 01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:04,320 Speaker 3: deb brother. There's no reason to go into detail about 1465 01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:06,479 Speaker 3: why he was named after him and all this other 1466 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,280 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Just say he wants to be great 1467 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:11,080 Speaker 3: for his son, and being great's going to involve him 1468 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 3: being more available. Like the idea of going further and 1469 01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 3: giving detail that's completely unnecessary and isn't going to enhance 1470 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 3: the quote. I just feel like the only reason you 1471 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,479 Speaker 3: do that is I don't think there's an a board 1472 01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 3: I'll just say, I don't think there's an above board 1473 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,200 Speaker 3: reason to do that. That seems like that seems like 1474 01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 3: you're trying to get a rise out of somebody. Because 1475 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:37,200 Speaker 3: the first part of it, I agree with you. I 1476 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,160 Speaker 3: don't really have any problem the first part of it. 1477 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 3: It's the second part after the comma, where it's just like, really, man, 1478 01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 3: we really had to go there, and for Embiid to 1479 01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:48,120 Speaker 3: kind of take umbrage to that and say that's really 1480 01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,479 Speaker 3: uncalled for. I don't I have a hard time being 1481 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,800 Speaker 3: anti Embid on this. 1482 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know that I'm anti Embiid. I don't 1483 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: really know that I'm anti the columnist either. Is I 1484 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:02,599 Speaker 1: think I think the one place I'll disagree with you 1485 01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: we got to get back to disagre here in half 1486 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:08,240 Speaker 1: a second. But I don't I don't believe that he 1487 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:11,080 Speaker 1: threw it he threw the reference to the brother in 1488 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,920 Speaker 1: there just to take a dig at Embiid. I think 1489 01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:19,200 Speaker 1: he thought he was adding context that helped the conversation, 1490 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 1: and it was something that I think probably could have 1491 01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:24,599 Speaker 1: been left out, so you know, we might have to 1492 01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,160 Speaker 1: agree to disagree on this. I don't think he purposely 1493 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,600 Speaker 1: put the brother's name in there just to get a 1494 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,800 Speaker 1: rise or to get a little pot shot at joelmb 1495 01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 1: But Fox Sports radio er tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live 1496 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 1: from the Tirech dot Com studio, is fascinating story coming 1497 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,439 Speaker 1: out of Philly. I'm sure we'll have more on it 1498 01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 1: in hour three. I'm sure everybody on the network will 1499 01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:45,640 Speaker 1: have more on it throughout the next day or so. 1500 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,120 Speaker 1: But we'll come back. We will get to back to 1501 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,280 Speaker 1: Disaga because he's got a lot on a lot of 1502 01:14:50,360 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 1: other things that we missed throughout the day. That's all next. 1503 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio er 1504 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 1: Tords Jason Martin broadcasting live from the t dire dot 1505 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Com studios as we do every week at around this time. 1506 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:06,840 Speaker 1: Do you want to toss it over the news desk 1507 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:10,559 Speaker 1: with the Sager for his extended update to Sager, the 1508 01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,080 Speaker 1: floor is yours. 1509 01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 2: A lot of football to get to. Pretty Much everything 1510 01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,240 Speaker 2: is final in sports, except for the late NBA game, where, 1511 01:15:17,320 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 2: believe it or not, the Clippers are about to lose 1512 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:21,720 Speaker 2: in their new home again. This will be oh and 1513 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 2: four in the arena that they just opened in recent 1514 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:29,439 Speaker 2: weeks to start this season in Inglewood. It's located between 1515 01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:32,160 Speaker 2: the LA Rams Stadium and the LA Airport basically, and 1516 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:33,840 Speaker 2: the Clippers are going to be oh and four in 1517 01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 2: it because in the final minute they're down at home 1518 01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 2: to Oklahoma City one two ninety one OKC will be 1519 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:43,839 Speaker 2: going to six and oh Also in southern California, today Breeders' 1520 01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:46,799 Speaker 2: Cup was held at Del Mar Racetrack in San Diego 1521 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,760 Speaker 2: and a horse died there. Today. A three year old 1522 01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:53,680 Speaker 2: from France collapsed galloping off the track toward the stables 1523 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,599 Speaker 2: after running the mile and a half five million dollar 1524 01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:01,000 Speaker 2: turf race. The cause a quote cardiac event. The Breeders' 1525 01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 2: Cup Classic went to Sierra Leone, a horse that had 1526 01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:08,360 Speaker 2: suffered a close loss in the Kentucky Derby. Now to 1527 01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:13,320 Speaker 2: college football, we had Ohio State beating Penn States again 1528 01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 2: today twenty to thirteen. The final. Penn State's offense no 1529 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,639 Speaker 2: touchdowns in this game. It had first and goal twice 1530 01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:23,439 Speaker 2: and failed to score interception late first half, stopped on 1531 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,920 Speaker 2: a fourth down fourth quarter, so Ohio State's beating them 1532 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 2: eight straight years. Penn State quarterback Drewe Allard did play 1533 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:32,759 Speaker 2: after last week's leg injury, had one interception. Will Howard, 1534 01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 2: a Pennsylvania native, two touchdown passes for Ohio State, but 1535 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 2: two turnovers as well to make it interesting, pick six 1536 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 2: early fumble at the goal line as well. Coach James 1537 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,960 Speaker 2: Franklin at Penn State one and twelve against top ten teams, 1538 01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,160 Speaker 2: and his club led ten to nothing in the first 1539 01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,720 Speaker 2: quarter of this one. As for Stanford football, in the 1540 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,160 Speaker 2: past four seasons against FBS opponent, Stanford is nine and 1541 01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 2: thirty three, which AP says is the worst mark any 1542 01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 2: Power Conference team in that four year spin, worse than Vanderbilt. 1543 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 2: Vanderbilt this year, meanwhile, has beaten Alabama and Auburn in 1544 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 2: the same season for the first time since nineteen fifty. 1545 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:13,960 Speaker 2: We will get to the SEC in a moment. That 1546 01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:18,360 Speaker 2: Stanford lost today was fifty nine twenty eight at NC State. 1547 01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 2: Also in the ACC, Syracuse in overtime beat Virginia Tech. 1548 01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,880 Speaker 2: Florida State is one in eight after losing it home 1549 01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:29,519 Speaker 2: to North Carolina thirty five to eleven. The Vanderbilt win 1550 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 2: was seventeen to seven at Auburn, which is one in 1551 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,519 Speaker 2: five in conference. Oklahoma scored up a storm today because 1552 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,679 Speaker 2: they got to play Maine fifty nine fourteen is the final. 1553 01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,719 Speaker 2: Wyoming was one in seven but got a high scoring 1554 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 2: win at New Mexico. No Hawaii game going right now 1555 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,280 Speaker 2: because they were on the road, winning on a touchdown 1556 01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,799 Speaker 2: in the final seconds at Fresno State twenty one to twenty. 1557 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,559 Speaker 2: Boise State, ranked fifteenth, won its game last night easily 1558 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 2: against San Diego State, and there was a hail Mary 1559 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 2: at the end of the Eastern Michigan a touchdown with 1560 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 2: no time left on the clock. It got him within 1561 01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,640 Speaker 2: twenty nine twenty eight against Toledo, Eastern Michigan decided to 1562 01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 2: go for two, passing complete. They lose at home anyway, 1563 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:15,080 Speaker 2: twenty nine to twenty eight. Tennessee Valls are ranked seventh 1564 01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 2: in the country, but they were trailing at home to 1565 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,400 Speaker 2: Kentucky tonight ten to seven in the third quarter, as 1566 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,040 Speaker 2: Tennessee was zero for three on field goal attempts at 1567 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,519 Speaker 2: the time, but the Balls came back for a twenty 1568 01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 2: eight eighteen victory. Kentucky now one and six in conference. 1569 01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 2: The Florida Georgia game in Jacksonville went to the Georgia Bulldogs, 1570 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,840 Speaker 2: rank second seven and one now, beat the Gators thirty 1571 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:38,360 Speaker 2: four to twenty. Gators quarterback DJ Lagway was carted off 1572 01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,960 Speaker 2: with a hamstring injury. Florida punted on eight of its 1573 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 2: first twelve drives, had only thirteen first downs in the game. 1574 01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,240 Speaker 2: Florida is four and four, and that includes wins against 1575 01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 2: Samford and ucf two touchdown passes for Carson Beck but 1576 01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,479 Speaker 2: three interceptions as well. Number one Oregon is nine to 1577 01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:57,759 Speaker 2: zero after winning at Michigan thirty eight seventeen. Heisman candidate 1578 01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel nearly three hundred yards pass two total touchdowns, 1579 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,200 Speaker 2: but Oregon wide receiver Ted Johnson left with an apparent 1580 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,720 Speaker 2: shoulder injury. Michigan's only five and four. It plays at 1581 01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:12,599 Speaker 2: Indiana next Saturday. Wolverines today ten drives only eleven first downs. 1582 01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 2: Thirteenth ranked Indiana is nine to oh. It was down 1583 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 2: ten nothing after the first quarter at Michigan State, but 1584 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,800 Speaker 2: still won the game forty seven to ten. Curtis Rourke 1585 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,479 Speaker 2: did play, had four touchdown passes in Indiana's defense had 1586 01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:29,840 Speaker 2: seven sacks, and Houston upset Number seventeen Kansas State twenty 1587 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,840 Speaker 2: four to nineteen with two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. 1588 01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:36,360 Speaker 2: Houston for the game was twelve for twelve, passing one 1589 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 2: hundred eleven yards in a TD so Houston's offense twelve 1590 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,720 Speaker 2: drives only ten first downs, but they pulled off the 1591 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 2: upset in front of twenty three thousand fans. 1592 01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,200 Speaker 1: That game, by the way, is interesting because Kansas State, 1593 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,639 Speaker 1: with the loss now trails Colorado and Iowa State, as 1594 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: well as BYU and lost column. There's a pathway for 1595 01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,479 Speaker 1: Colorado to play for a Big twelve title. Fox Sports 1596 01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,559 Speaker 1: Radio Air towards Jason mart We'll come back more college 1597 01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: football plus Week nine in the NFL. Fox Sports Radio. 1598 01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:12,120 Speaker 1: Welcome in, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Eric Torris, Jason Martin. 1599 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: We are broadcasting live from the tireck dot Com studios 1600 01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:19,200 Speaker 1: tyreck dot Com. We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast, 1601 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:22,760 Speaker 1: free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand 1602 01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 1: recommended installers. Tyreck dot com the way tire buying should be. 1603 01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:31,000 Speaker 1: We are taking you up until two a m. Eastern 1604 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:35,839 Speaker 1: time here on a daylight savings Saturday into Sunday, depending 1605 01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,000 Speaker 1: on what part of the country you are. Bernie Fredo 1606 01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:44,439 Speaker 1: follows us. Bernie Fredo, he's working overtime today as he's 1607 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,719 Speaker 1: taking you straight through daylight Savings, a five hour shift 1608 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,840 Speaker 1: for Bernie. He's got a lot to say, as always, 1609 01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,679 Speaker 1: and I cannot wait to hear what he says. Bernie 1610 01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:58,479 Speaker 1: Freddo will be on air following us fifty eight minutes 1611 01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:03,360 Speaker 1: from now. Jay mart Let's reset college football Crazy Saturday. 1612 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,360 Speaker 1: By the way, I know we say it all the time, 1613 01:21:05,800 --> 01:21:08,719 Speaker 1: but Disager said, all those top twenty five teams in action, 1614 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,719 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of them lost as ranked opponents, 1615 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:16,559 Speaker 1: non ranked opponents, whatever. As we came on air the 1616 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,839 Speaker 1: you know, the Texas A and M game went final. 1617 01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:23,280 Speaker 1: Of course Clemson lost as well. Do want to start 1618 01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:26,200 Speaker 1: with the Ohio State Penn State game. Ohio State does 1619 01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:30,519 Speaker 1: get the victory twenty to thirteen. Ohio State didn't play 1620 01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,200 Speaker 1: at least offensively. Defensively, they played very well Offensively, they 1621 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,040 Speaker 1: were not great, but Penn State's only touchdown comes on 1622 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:41,840 Speaker 1: a Will Howard picked six. Other than that, Ohio State, 1623 01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,519 Speaker 1: to its credit, their defense held up. Their defense did 1624 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 1: what they had to do. Penn State, as Desager just 1625 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,880 Speaker 1: told you, falls to one and twelve against top twenty 1626 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 1: our top five teams. Excuse me in the James Franklin era, 1627 01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,360 Speaker 1: they finished with under three hundred yards of total offense, 1628 01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty yards rushing, and I think most importantly, 1629 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:06,120 Speaker 1: they had that goal line possession in the fourth quarter 1630 01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:09,000 Speaker 1: at the time they were trailing twenty to thirteen, first 1631 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:12,800 Speaker 1: in goal inside the five three straight runs, none of 1632 01:22:12,840 --> 01:22:16,759 Speaker 1: them pick up the touchdown. A fourth passes incomplete, Ohio 1633 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,880 Speaker 1: State gets the ball back, they never give it back 1634 01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,479 Speaker 1: in a twenty to thirteen win, and. 1635 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 3: Penn State is who we thought they were because this 1636 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 3: is what they are year after year after year under 1637 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,800 Speaker 3: James Franklin. And go back to the podcast if you've 1638 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,720 Speaker 3: missed the first hour of the show, we will rehash 1639 01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,719 Speaker 3: all of that here. But James Franklin doesn't win these games. 1640 01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 3: He just doesn't. And that play calling sequence is a 1641 01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,920 Speaker 3: prime example of you gotta do better than that. Like 1642 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:48,679 Speaker 3: everybody watching New Really, you're just gonna run straight into 1643 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,720 Speaker 3: the teeth of their defensive line that's dominated you all 1644 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,599 Speaker 3: game long, three times in a row, and then you're 1645 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,040 Speaker 3: gonna tell aler go make a hero play for us 1646 01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:00,800 Speaker 3: on fourth and goal, and he's going to throw into 1647 01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,320 Speaker 3: triple coverage and then you're never gonna touch the football 1648 01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,759 Speaker 3: again over the last five minutes. It's just not good enough. 1649 01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:10,360 Speaker 3: And I understand it's hard to beat Ohio State. I 1650 01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 3: get that, but there's a lot of other guys that 1651 01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:15,760 Speaker 3: can take that job and lose to Ohio State the 1652 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:21,040 Speaker 3: way you do. James, that's the problem. And I just 1653 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,720 Speaker 3: look at how long he's been there. You forget how 1654 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:29,120 Speaker 3: long he has actually been and since Sakwan and Trace 1655 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,920 Speaker 3: McSorley in that crew, they've been a paper tiger. I'm 1656 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,600 Speaker 3: gonna make a comparison. I don't know that it is 1657 01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:37,680 Speaker 3: fully fair, but I think we're gonna find it out 1658 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 3: over the next couple of weeks. Again, Penn State is 1659 01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:46,559 Speaker 3: the Big Ten's Old Miss. They are a team that 1660 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:50,519 Speaker 3: beats up on nobody's and then runs into the big 1661 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,280 Speaker 3: dogs and finds a way to lose. And this happened before. 1662 01:23:54,520 --> 01:23:56,599 Speaker 3: For the most part, it happen before Lank Kevin got 1663 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,360 Speaker 3: the Ole Miss too. But like James FK, he's never 1664 01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,240 Speaker 3: won these games. Let me just like just a something 1665 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:02,080 Speaker 3: that just happened. 1666 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:03,800 Speaker 1: Let me just jump in for half a second. I 1667 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,400 Speaker 1: totally understand the analogy. I think it's totally fair. The 1668 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,040 Speaker 1: only thing I would say, Old Miss is not essentially 1669 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,560 Speaker 1: on par from a resources facilities. 1670 01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:14,679 Speaker 3: No, absolutely, right, that's good. 1671 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,559 Speaker 1: That's a good point, and that's the only point I 1672 01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:19,400 Speaker 1: was gonna make. They don't have what Texas or Georgia does. 1673 01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,920 Speaker 1: Penn State pretty much has everything that Ohio State and 1674 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Michigan needs and never beats them. 1675 01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:27,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I totally I mean, that's a great point, and 1676 01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,160 Speaker 3: that's even more of an indictment on Penn State. I 1677 01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,400 Speaker 3: think the way it's like this, when I see Penn 1678 01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 3: State against a good team, before the game starts, I 1679 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 3: have a certain feeling going in, like there's a way 1680 01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:41,280 Speaker 3: that my head feels, there is a way that my 1681 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,960 Speaker 3: heart feels. There's just a way that I sense that 1682 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:45,960 Speaker 3: game is going to go. And it's similar to the 1683 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:47,800 Speaker 3: way I feel when ole Miss is playing in a 1684 01:24:47,840 --> 01:24:50,120 Speaker 3: big game. And this dates back to Hugh Freeze and 1685 01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 3: even before you freeze, like they're good sort of, and 1686 01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 3: then they play a great team and I just remember 1687 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,880 Speaker 3: watching Saban just beat them by forty in a lot 1688 01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 3: of those games and embarrass them, and then they go 1689 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 3: on to lose three four games in a row. Like 1690 01:25:03,960 --> 01:25:05,640 Speaker 3: I don't think Penn State's gonna do that, because I 1691 01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:08,280 Speaker 3: don't think that their schedule puts them in a position. 1692 01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,240 Speaker 3: I think right now they have a seventy seven percent 1693 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,439 Speaker 3: chance to make the College Football Playoff even after this, 1694 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 3: and I think we think they're going to. And at 1695 01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:17,640 Speaker 3: the same time, I don't want to see him there 1696 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,120 Speaker 3: because I know what's going to happen, because this is 1697 01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 3: what they do against good teams. This is what James 1698 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,680 Speaker 3: Franklin coach teams do. And it's I understand he's not 1699 01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,840 Speaker 3: out there throwing every pass, he's not doing this, but 1700 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,080 Speaker 3: the coach them up philosophy. I just don't see it 1701 01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:38,840 Speaker 3: with him, not against these big, top flight opponents. And 1702 01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:42,599 Speaker 3: that's a hot job in a great sports town that 1703 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,920 Speaker 3: loves that team, that that team basically runs that entire city, 1704 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 3: and there's a lot of guys that'll take that job, 1705 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,320 Speaker 3: and I think you should probably consider calling one of 1706 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,080 Speaker 3: them after this year. Unless you're good being this, unless 1707 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,559 Speaker 3: you're good being a three loss team most years, that 1708 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 3: is is like sort of interesting into your first big 1709 01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 3: test and then we find out, oh yeah, there's no 1710 01:26:05,240 --> 01:26:08,679 Speaker 3: there there, and then you just go right on back 1711 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,800 Speaker 3: into the mediocre line where yeah, I knew you weren't 1712 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,120 Speaker 3: a contender. Like that isn't the way that I would 1713 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,920 Speaker 3: want to be if I was a Penn State fan. Like, 1714 01:26:16,960 --> 01:26:20,360 Speaker 3: at some point, it needs to it needs to change. 1715 01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,000 Speaker 3: You need to give somebody else a shot, give somebody 1716 01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,000 Speaker 3: else a voice. Frank going to get another job, as 1717 01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,120 Speaker 3: he should now that he's a bad football coach. I 1718 01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,400 Speaker 3: just don't know that he's a championship football coach on 1719 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,240 Speaker 3: that level, I don't think that when I see him 1720 01:26:33,240 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 3: coaching on Saturdays. There's never been a time when I 1721 01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,680 Speaker 3: have felt particularly a freed of what he's doing. And 1722 01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,960 Speaker 3: in fact, if I were a Penn State fan, I 1723 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,040 Speaker 3: would just be clinching my teeth left and right to 1724 01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 3: find out what way is it that we're going to 1725 01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:49,000 Speaker 3: get beat this time? 1726 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:52,720 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened, not only today, but in 1727 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,680 Speaker 1: most of the big games. And I think the disappointing 1728 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,120 Speaker 1: thing is in most of the big games there's some 1729 01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:02,639 Speaker 1: sort of coaching decision that back to bite you, and 1730 01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,479 Speaker 1: this one was no exception. The play calling in the 1731 01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:11,000 Speaker 1: red zone was terrible. Really quickly, does anything change from 1732 01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:14,160 Speaker 1: your perspective on Ohio State? So Ohio State, I want 1733 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,000 Speaker 1: to just set this up really quickly. They were their 1734 01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 1: starting left tackle got hurt against Oregon. Then the backup 1735 01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:22,800 Speaker 1: left tackle gets hurt in the game against Nebraska. They 1736 01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 1: struggle against Nebraska twenty one to seventeen. They win, but 1737 01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:27,720 Speaker 1: you know, you go back to that game. I mean 1738 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:31,800 Speaker 1: they could not run the football at home against Nebraska. 1739 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:35,439 Speaker 1: Finished that game with sixty four yards rushing on thirty 1740 01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,519 Speaker 1: one carries. They come out today, they get the victory, 1741 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,040 Speaker 1: and you know, they really do it in a game 1742 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:47,759 Speaker 1: in which Will Howard essentially gave Penn State fourteen points 1743 01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,280 Speaker 1: because pick six goes right into the end zone for 1744 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: Penn State, that's their only touchdown. But then also Will 1745 01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 1: Howard's running in for a touchdown fumbles it on the 1746 01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,880 Speaker 1: one yard line out of the end zone for a touchback. 1747 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 1: And so just bite all that they do get to 1748 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 1: win twenty to thirteen. And I'll just say, like, listen, 1749 01:28:06,040 --> 01:28:08,599 Speaker 1: it's Ohio State. We say it all the time about 1750 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. This is why you're paid nine, ten million 1751 01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,000 Speaker 1: dollars whatever it is a year to win games like this. 1752 01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,400 Speaker 1: But he hasn't won a lot of big games like this. 1753 01:28:15,439 --> 01:28:17,840 Speaker 1: Now he's had great success against Penn State. But I'm 1754 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,519 Speaker 1: talking more in terms of top twenty or top five 1755 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:24,479 Speaker 1: teams on the schedule. And I will say too, like 1756 01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:26,240 Speaker 1: we talked about it last week, if they had lost 1757 01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,920 Speaker 1: this game, they were basically knocked out of the Big 1758 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,240 Speaker 1: Ten title picture. Now they're obviously in it. They actually 1759 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,679 Speaker 1: have what is now a very interesting game a couple 1760 01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,000 Speaker 1: weeks from now against Indiana. 1761 01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 3: I can't wait just to see that because you're going 1762 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:42,439 Speaker 3: to learn that day you know what coach Sig really 1763 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,720 Speaker 3: is in terms of what this year. I mean, if 1764 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 3: you're Indiana, you better back up the truck and pay 1765 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,200 Speaker 3: him as much as human as possible right now because 1766 01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,840 Speaker 3: a lot of teams coming after you. Have no question. 1767 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: Anyone that's going to have a job opening is going 1768 01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,640 Speaker 1: to come after him. Indiana is nine to zero. Indiana, 1769 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 1: how about this. They play Michigan home next week and 1770 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:04,200 Speaker 1: then a bye. Indiana's gonna be favorite against Michigan. They 1771 01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: could be ten and zero going into that Ohio State game, 1772 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: and if Ohio State takes care of business, which they should, 1773 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:14,640 Speaker 1: their next two are against Purdue and Northwestern A combined 1774 01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:21,400 Speaker 1: let's see here, five and twelve, A combined three combined, 1775 01:29:21,439 --> 01:29:24,040 Speaker 1: two and nine in the Big Ten. I mean that 1776 01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State Indiana game is basically to go to the 1777 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Big Ten championship game if Oregon keeps winning. Just from 1778 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:36,240 Speaker 1: the Ohio State perspective, are you is this? Are you same, impressed, 1779 01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,280 Speaker 1: more impressed, less impressed? It doesn't matter. This is what 1780 01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 1: you need to do. What do you make of the 1781 01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:42,920 Speaker 1: game from the Ohio State perspective. 1782 01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,720 Speaker 3: Kind of shrugged my shoulders. It's a good win, but 1783 01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,920 Speaker 3: I mean, they didn't like leap off the page as 1784 01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,200 Speaker 3: just some incredible football team. We know the talent, think 1785 01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,640 Speaker 3: we know we know what Judkins is, we know what 1786 01:29:54,720 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 3: Jeremiah Smith is, we know what Will Howard is capable 1787 01:29:57,040 --> 01:29:59,760 Speaker 3: of being. We understand they've got playmakers on the secondary, 1788 01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,559 Speaker 3: They've got a lot of beef on the d line. 1789 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 3: We understand that there's a lot of talent on football 1790 01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,679 Speaker 3: field for Ohio State. At the same time, I shrugged 1791 01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,639 Speaker 3: my shoulders and just I came kind of like, yeah, 1792 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,960 Speaker 3: they want another one. But I'm not ever particularly impressed. 1793 01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:19,040 Speaker 3: I was not like I didn't lose anything for them today, 1794 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,160 Speaker 3: but I didn't gain anything either. I don't think I 1795 01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,120 Speaker 3: learned anything new. I don't feel any better about them. 1796 01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,599 Speaker 3: I certainly don't feel any worse because you still went 1797 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:30,000 Speaker 3: into a hostile environment and you won that game, even 1798 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:32,200 Speaker 3: though I would argue that that play calling sequence that 1799 01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,040 Speaker 3: Penn State gave you in the last six minutes made 1800 01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:37,719 Speaker 3: that a little bit easier for you, but you still 1801 01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,440 Speaker 3: had to stiffen up and stop them on three consecutive 1802 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:44,240 Speaker 3: runs and then stop the fourth down play. But I 1803 01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 3: don't look at Ohio State and feel like, Yeah, that 1804 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,920 Speaker 3: team's gonna win a title. But I think the question 1805 01:30:50,200 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 3: is who do you watch and feel that way about 1806 01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 3: at all? Because I think that Georgia and Ohio State 1807 01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:59,800 Speaker 3: are very similar in that regard. I watch them both, 1808 01:31:00,479 --> 01:31:04,519 Speaker 3: I see flaws. I also see at moments a different gear, 1809 01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,680 Speaker 3: and both of those things are relevant, and both of 1810 01:31:07,720 --> 01:31:10,280 Speaker 3: those things could you know, come to pass it. But 1811 01:31:10,280 --> 01:31:11,880 Speaker 3: either one of those teams gets hot and they win 1812 01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,679 Speaker 3: it all. Yes, But I kind of don't think either 1813 01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,640 Speaker 3: Ohio State or Georgia are gonna win it all. I 1814 01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,559 Speaker 3: just I just don't have that sense about them. There's 1815 01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:23,680 Speaker 3: something I don't know. It's like the steak is a 1816 01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 3: little overcooked, like it's a little dry. There's something, there's 1817 01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,880 Speaker 3: something that's just it's not moist enough. There's something off. 1818 01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 3: It's and I don't really know how to say it, 1819 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,519 Speaker 3: but you just watch it and you just don't have 1820 01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:38,840 Speaker 3: a championship feeling about it. 1821 01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:41,120 Speaker 1: Well, and I think, and I think we're gonna get 1822 01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:43,320 Speaker 1: this more and more in the twelve team playoff era. 1823 01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 1: Is I think that that's how you know. It's kind 1824 01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:49,040 Speaker 1: of like We feel that way sometimes about NFL teams 1825 01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: or NBA teams or college basketball teams going into a tournament. 1826 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,559 Speaker 1: They might be the one seed, but it a a 1827 01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:56,920 Speaker 1: one seed, but it kind of feels off and you 1828 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,360 Speaker 1: can't quite figure out what's wrong with it, but it's 1829 01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:02,559 Speaker 1: just not distant enough. And like I said, I think 1830 01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:05,280 Speaker 1: you see that in the NFL sometimes. You know, you 1831 01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,920 Speaker 1: could think of a million examples. I'm trying to find 1832 01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: one this particular season. I don't know that there's a 1833 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:13,640 Speaker 1: great one, at least as of right now. You know, 1834 01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:16,080 Speaker 1: like the forty nine ers, probably not the best example, 1835 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,720 Speaker 1: but it's like, okay, like we know they're kind of 1836 01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,280 Speaker 1: a championship contender, but they're not really this year, and 1837 01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:24,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't really feel right. The other thing I will 1838 01:32:24,439 --> 01:32:28,479 Speaker 1: say really quickly, we should at least acknowledge if we're 1839 01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:32,719 Speaker 1: gonna say that Ohio State and Georgia something just doesn't 1840 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:35,640 Speaker 1: quite feel right. Big picture, we gotta go ahead and 1841 01:32:35,640 --> 01:32:37,080 Speaker 1: give a little bit of credit to Dan Lanning and 1842 01:32:37,120 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: the Oregon ducks Man for sure, thirty eight seventeen win 1843 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,240 Speaker 1: in the Big House today, I listen, I know Michigan's 1844 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,360 Speaker 1: struggling as weird as it sounds, and it will sound weird. 1845 01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:50,080 Speaker 1: I thought they actually put up a pretty good fight 1846 01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:55,160 Speaker 1: defensively Michigan and Oregon right now is just a juggernaut, 1847 01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:57,559 Speaker 1: you know, I know, the loss to or the win 1848 01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,400 Speaker 1: excuse me over Illinois last week loses a little bit 1849 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:02,439 Speaker 1: of the bloom because Illinois lost again this week, but 1850 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:05,200 Speaker 1: Illinois was a top twenty five team. Oregon won by 1851 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:08,760 Speaker 1: darn near thirty last week. Thirty eight to seventeen is 1852 01:33:08,800 --> 01:33:11,640 Speaker 1: the final score. So who has that? Look who is 1853 01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:15,000 Speaker 1: playing at the highest level. I would put Oregon probably, 1854 01:33:15,439 --> 01:33:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, probably right now pretty much alone in that category, 1855 01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:21,080 Speaker 1: at least as of right now here on November two. 1856 01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I think they'll be number 1857 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,759 Speaker 3: one when the first CFP rankings come out on Tuesday, 1858 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:30,400 Speaker 3: and deservedly so. When Dylan Gabriel is a legit Heisman contender, 1859 01:33:32,120 --> 01:33:37,520 Speaker 3: who's just a torching torching teams Landing got that signature 1860 01:33:37,560 --> 01:33:41,280 Speaker 3: win against Ohio State. There's a couple tough games still 1861 01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:47,280 Speaker 3: coming for them, but entering the playoff, presume they're healthy, 1862 01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,640 Speaker 3: they're gonna be tough for anybody to beat because they 1863 01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,360 Speaker 3: can score with everybody. They're just fast, they got a 1864 01:33:53,400 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 3: lot of skill talent, and they're playing with a lot 1865 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:58,040 Speaker 3: of confidence, and they've got i think, experience at the 1866 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,759 Speaker 3: quarterback spot in big time game. And I mean, certainly 1867 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,200 Speaker 3: there have been other things that have changed for Oklahoma, 1868 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,559 Speaker 3: but Dylan Gabriel was there a year ago. You look 1869 01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,800 Speaker 3: at Oklahoma's rating and ranking right now, I mean, they 1870 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 3: beat Maine, They're actually already gonna be the underdog in 1871 01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:19,000 Speaker 3: their last three games Oklahoma, think about that for a 1872 01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:21,559 Speaker 3: second and think about what Dylan Gabriel was. I mean, 1873 01:34:21,960 --> 01:34:23,600 Speaker 3: I don't think we gave him enough credit for what 1874 01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:27,160 Speaker 3: he was able to pull off a year ago, and 1875 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,439 Speaker 3: you look at it now and it's just, yeah, okay, yeah, 1876 01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 3: he's really good. And at the same time, they've got 1877 01:34:33,320 --> 01:34:36,960 Speaker 3: a solid staff and Landing really has them believing. So yeah, clearly, 1878 01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:41,200 Speaker 3: I think right now they're firing at a level that 1879 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:44,400 Speaker 3: I can't. There's nobody else in college football that I 1880 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 3: look at and say is firing on that level. I mean, 1881 01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,080 Speaker 3: the other team that we'd never talk about at all 1882 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,720 Speaker 3: is Miami, and Miami, of course won by three touchdowns 1883 01:34:53,720 --> 01:34:56,280 Speaker 3: over a two lost duke team, and Cam Word had 1884 01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,439 Speaker 3: five touchdowns and he's another Heisman contender. Still don't know 1885 01:35:00,479 --> 01:35:01,680 Speaker 3: what to make of them, because I don't know what 1886 01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:05,040 Speaker 3: to make of anybody they've beaten, and you know they 1887 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,960 Speaker 3: you know, Clemson getting beat now as well, they're going 1888 01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:10,920 Speaker 3: to have an opportunity to prove it because they're the 1889 01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:12,680 Speaker 3: only team in the ACC at this point. I think 1890 01:35:12,720 --> 01:35:13,719 Speaker 3: it's even worth watching. 1891 01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:18,519 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, a couple very interesting things on Miami. 1892 01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:20,640 Speaker 1: We'll be quick on this, but you mentioned they won 1893 01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: by twenty two. They trailed, yeah, thirty, they trailed twenty 1894 01:35:26,360 --> 01:35:30,680 Speaker 1: eight to twenty five, and then they trailed, well, it 1895 01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: was thirty two to thirty one, so they had a 1896 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:36,120 Speaker 1: one point lead with thirteen minutes to go. They win 1897 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,960 Speaker 1: by twenty two. The point spread in that game was 1898 01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:42,040 Speaker 1: twenty one and a half. J. Mart And I know 1899 01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,480 Speaker 1: you're not a gambler, but imagine that's incredible. Yeah, imagine 1900 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,840 Speaker 1: Miami's up by one with thirteen minutes to go. You're like, okay, 1901 01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:52,120 Speaker 1: I got this. No, no, no, no no. They rip off 1902 01:35:52,160 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: twenty one straight points in the final twelve minutes to win. 1903 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:57,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, you talk about the frustration of 1904 01:35:57,560 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 1: imbalanced schedules, J. Martin, it's something you know, we talked 1905 01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about last week. You mentioned Clemson losing today. 1906 01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:10,400 Speaker 1: If the ACC Championship was played today, Clemson at six 1907 01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:13,120 Speaker 1: and two five and one would not be in the 1908 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:19,439 Speaker 1: championship because Miami is undefeated. SMU is eight and one, 1909 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,080 Speaker 1: five and zero in the ACC. Oh, by the way, 1910 01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:25,400 Speaker 1: none of those three teams play each other this year, 1911 01:36:25,479 --> 01:36:26,720 Speaker 1: SMU Clemson. 1912 01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:30,000 Speaker 3: In Miami, so let's not forget. By the way that Miami. 1913 01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 3: You talked about the comeback that they had in this game. 1914 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,040 Speaker 3: I mean, they came back against Cal when they were 1915 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:38,880 Speaker 3: down like eight thousand points, and they also came back 1916 01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,880 Speaker 3: against Virginia Tech. So they they're this team that finds 1917 01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:45,840 Speaker 3: a way to score big, lading games. I don't know 1918 01:36:45,880 --> 01:36:49,040 Speaker 3: if you can win your way to a title doing that, 1919 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,920 Speaker 3: it's pretty impressive, but I don't think that it's something 1920 01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:55,360 Speaker 3: that is repeatable for long. So I wonder if one 1921 01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:57,080 Speaker 3: of these times are going to get behind and not 1922 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,920 Speaker 3: be able to make that comeback. 1923 01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,880 Speaker 1: I would think it's some point it would catch up 1924 01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:02,360 Speaker 1: with them. I mean, I know they're nine to zero, 1925 01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,839 Speaker 1: so you're three quarters of the way through the schedule. 1926 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:07,880 Speaker 1: By the way, you know, you talk about not being 1927 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:11,960 Speaker 1: able to come back camp. Listen, it's a little early 1928 01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,280 Speaker 1: for this. I think Kim Ward's winning the Heisman though. 1929 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,880 Speaker 1: Scott right now twenty nine touchdown passes, five touchdowns, one 1930 01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,600 Speaker 1: interception today, four hundred yards passing, and I think because 1931 01:37:22,640 --> 01:37:25,759 Speaker 1: of the way they play, first of all, it sets 1932 01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:28,799 Speaker 1: him up to have some pretty spectacular moments, but because 1933 01:37:28,840 --> 01:37:31,880 Speaker 1: the defense has been so bad, like he's got no 1934 01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:34,720 Speaker 1: choice but to basically be great in all these games. 1935 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 1: By the way, he's got four games already with four 1936 01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:39,559 Speaker 1: plus touchdown passes this season. J Mart so twenty nine 1937 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,960 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and he has well over at this point 1938 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:46,280 Speaker 1: three thousand yards passing. So it's a little early. It's 1939 01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,519 Speaker 1: talk Heisman, but I think because of the way he plays, 1940 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,880 Speaker 1: because they keep winning, I think he'll be in the 1941 01:37:50,920 --> 01:37:51,799 Speaker 1: mix throughout the season. 1942 01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:53,840 Speaker 3: I think it's fair. I mean, I don't really have 1943 01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,960 Speaker 3: anything that ad I think I think we already thought 1944 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,200 Speaker 3: he would be a finalist, Gabriel Bio finalist. We'll see 1945 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,240 Speaker 3: if Jens is going to be there in the end. 1946 01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:04,519 Speaker 3: But I would look at the two quarterbacks right now, 1947 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:08,840 Speaker 3: and I mean, if Oregan is undefeated and number one 1948 01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,360 Speaker 3: in the country, then Gabriel is going to have a 1949 01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:14,639 Speaker 3: pretty good case. But Oregon, we knew it was gonna 1950 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,519 Speaker 3: be good Miami. For cam Mood to come in and 1951 01:38:16,680 --> 01:38:19,840 Speaker 3: do this and for them to pretty much on his 1952 01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:23,439 Speaker 3: back do what they are doing. I don't think you 1953 01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:25,400 Speaker 3: could really argue it. I don't know that it's a 1954 01:38:25,560 --> 01:38:29,160 Speaker 3: banner Heisman year. But at the same time, like cam Mood, 1955 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,519 Speaker 3: you couldn't possibly ask for much more than he's given. 1956 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,960 Speaker 1: You can't ask for much more. Miami improves tonight. To know, 1957 01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:37,720 Speaker 1: as j mart said, don't really have much to talk 1958 01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:39,840 Speaker 1: about with them. They keep finding ways to win. Win 1959 01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:43,719 Speaker 1: by twenty two today, after trailing late in the third quarter. 1960 01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,679 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin will come back 1961 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 1: when we do. We've talked to a lot of college football. 1962 01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,360 Speaker 1: It's time to switch gears to the NFL, the big 1963 01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:56,160 Speaker 1: one at lambeau Field tomorrow. What to expect Lions Packers, 1964 01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:01,320 Speaker 1: that's next. Fox Sports thirty Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio. 1965 01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:05,599 Speaker 1: Eric Torres Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tire Rack 1966 01:39:05,720 --> 01:39:09,360 Speaker 1: dot Com studios, talked to a lot of college football 1967 01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:12,120 Speaker 1: throughout the show. Do you want to get back to 1968 01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:13,400 Speaker 1: the NFL. By the way, if you missed any of 1969 01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:15,959 Speaker 1: the College Football Talk, make sure to download the podcast 1970 01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. But with that said, let's 1971 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 1: go ahead, switch gears, get to the NFL. Week nine 1972 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,000 Speaker 1: is upon us. By the way, first of all, before 1973 01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:28,920 Speaker 1: we get to the before we get to the Lions Packers, 1974 01:39:29,040 --> 01:39:32,360 Speaker 1: jmart And I'm not asking this tongue in cheek. I'm 1975 01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,519 Speaker 1: asking seriously, Thursday night, does that do anything for you? 1976 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,479 Speaker 1: You know, obviously the Jets get the win best that 1977 01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,240 Speaker 1: they've looked. You know, DeVante Adams had that drop early 1978 01:39:42,360 --> 01:39:46,200 Speaker 1: but scores the touchdown late. Does it change fundamentally anything 1979 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,759 Speaker 1: about how you feel about the Jets and the season 1980 01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:49,640 Speaker 1: that they're in the midst of. 1981 01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:55,080 Speaker 3: No, I mean it's better than had they lost, I guess, 1982 01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:58,800 Speaker 3: And I mean the first half was unwatchable football, and 1983 01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,720 Speaker 3: then you had outside of what Gara Wilson did. But 1984 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,160 Speaker 3: the second half at least you saw some signs of life. 1985 01:40:07,640 --> 01:40:10,800 Speaker 3: Maybe they got out of the darkness that we heard 1986 01:40:10,840 --> 01:40:14,880 Speaker 3: about prior. But I think the bigger point is, I mean, 1987 01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 3: half the offensive line, your left tackles out. If you're 1988 01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:22,559 Speaker 3: Houston CJ. Shudge running for his life all night. He's 1989 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:25,040 Speaker 3: got Tank Dell out there, but he has no Nico Collins. 1990 01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:27,720 Speaker 3: He's got no Stefan Diggs for the remainder of the year. 1991 01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:31,240 Speaker 3: He's got backups everywhere. They're hurt all over the place, 1992 01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:33,960 Speaker 3: and the Jets had to outlast them to win the game. 1993 01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,040 Speaker 3: They had to. They had to come back and win 1994 01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:38,720 Speaker 3: that game because they couldn't move the football. And at 1995 01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 3: one point late in the second quarter, I think Aaron 1996 01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:45,519 Speaker 3: Rodgers had thirty seven yards passing, Like, you better win 1997 01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:48,479 Speaker 3: that game at that point. I mean, the Texans were 1998 01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:51,560 Speaker 3: half a football team, it felt like out there, and 1999 01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:56,720 Speaker 3: it's not like it was a thunderous performance, but I mean, 2000 01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:59,160 Speaker 3: I guess you feel better than had they lost that game, 2001 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,040 Speaker 3: because that would have been even worse. But you're watching 2002 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,960 Speaker 3: that and you think the Jets are going anywhere, I 2003 01:41:04,439 --> 01:41:06,800 Speaker 3: just you're gonna have to show me more evidence to that. 2004 01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:09,960 Speaker 3: It just seemed like a team that won a game 2005 01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:13,880 Speaker 3: against a barely functional football team at that point that 2006 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,720 Speaker 3: was just so battered and beaten entering and you had 2007 01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,639 Speaker 3: it at home, and you had a couple of spectacular plays, 2008 01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:23,640 Speaker 3: and you had a couple you had a couple of 2009 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:25,840 Speaker 3: moments in the second half, where oh yeah, that's Aaron Rodgers. 2010 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,760 Speaker 3: But at the same time, it's just not consistent enough. 2011 01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,439 Speaker 3: It's I think it's similar. You've seen this a couple 2012 01:41:33,439 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 3: of times where the Jets have done this for a half, 2013 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,920 Speaker 3: and I think that, you know, we talked about Georgia 2014 01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:39,800 Speaker 3: earlier in the game and earlier in the show, and 2015 01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:41,639 Speaker 3: I think you could say the same thing about Tennessee, 2016 01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:44,840 Speaker 3: where they'll give you a good half here and there 2017 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:46,920 Speaker 3: as well, or in most games they'll give you a 2018 01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,000 Speaker 3: good half. But how long are you going to be 2019 01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 3: able to do that? Miami? Even maybe you can make 2020 01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:53,320 Speaker 3: that argument, like I need you to be a drama, 2021 01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:56,320 Speaker 3: not a sitcom, and right now the Jets are a sitcom. 2022 01:41:56,520 --> 01:41:59,160 Speaker 3: They're a thirty minute show, and they need to be 2023 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,160 Speaker 3: a sixty minute show. But more so than anything, they 2024 01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:04,679 Speaker 3: just seem more dysfunctional. And the more you watch them, 2025 01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:07,639 Speaker 3: the more you realize this was not a Robert solid problem. 2026 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, Well, that that last part I definitely 2027 01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:14,160 Speaker 1: agree with, and I agree with the sentiment as well, 2028 01:42:14,280 --> 01:42:17,040 Speaker 1: is that, listen, I have no vested interest if the 2029 01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:18,840 Speaker 1: Jets are good or not. I was hoping, you know, 2030 01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:21,160 Speaker 1: Rogers would would turn back the clock a little bit. 2031 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,760 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, I think this is kind of a 2032 01:42:23,840 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: one off, you know. I mean, listen, Garrett Wilson had 2033 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:30,160 Speaker 1: the obviously the insane touchdown grab, not to mention the 2034 01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:34,639 Speaker 1: insane other grab that it was like, you know, inches 2035 01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,960 Speaker 1: away from being batted down. Somehow he gets on the 2036 01:42:37,000 --> 01:42:39,120 Speaker 1: other end of it. So yeah, I'm not ready to 2037 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,479 Speaker 1: call it anything special here, But let's switch gears. Mary 2038 01:42:42,520 --> 01:42:44,439 Speaker 1: give us a little music. We'll start talking about Week 2039 01:42:44,600 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 1: nine and obviously the big one Detroit at green Bay. 2040 01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:54,360 Speaker 1: Of course, green Bay Jordan Love is expected to play, 2041 01:42:54,479 --> 01:42:57,840 Speaker 1: dealing with a groin injury. I got thoughts j Marp, 2042 01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:01,800 Speaker 1: but what do you expect to see tomorrow Sunday in Lambeofield. 2043 01:43:02,680 --> 01:43:04,679 Speaker 3: I mean it's at Lambeau, so, I mean you would 2044 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,880 Speaker 3: feel like you'd get the best version of Green Bay. 2045 01:43:07,760 --> 01:43:11,960 Speaker 3: But it's hard to pick against Detroit right now. They're 2046 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 3: not just beating teams, they're demoralizing teams. The offense is clicking, 2047 01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:20,200 Speaker 3: the defense is making plays. They are playing very much 2048 01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:24,519 Speaker 3: to the character and just kind of attitude of Dan Campbell. 2049 01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,599 Speaker 3: I think they're both very well coached teams. I think 2050 01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:30,880 Speaker 3: the Lions have more horses right now, and you have 2051 01:43:30,960 --> 01:43:34,760 Speaker 3: a hobbled Jordan Love on top of that. He's gonna go, 2052 01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,400 Speaker 3: but how much is that gonna hamper him? Is that 2053 01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:40,040 Speaker 3: gonna stop him? And I also think and maybe this 2054 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,360 Speaker 3: would be the game where they get him back on 2055 01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,120 Speaker 3: track with Jayden Reeds just kind of disappeared since Roman, 2056 01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,960 Speaker 3: since Romeo Dobbs got suspended. He's come back and they've 2057 01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:49,040 Speaker 3: started throwing them the football a lot more and that's 2058 01:43:49,280 --> 01:43:51,240 Speaker 3: not a bad thing. And Tucker Craft has emerged, of 2059 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,440 Speaker 3: course this year as a tight end. But I personally 2060 01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,200 Speaker 3: just I find it hard to go against Detroit at 2061 01:43:57,240 --> 01:43:58,800 Speaker 3: this point. I've seen him do it at home and 2062 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,160 Speaker 3: on the road, and I think they can go to 2063 01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,320 Speaker 3: Lambeau and win that game. 2064 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm with you. 2065 01:44:03,880 --> 01:44:04,439 Speaker 4: Is uh. 2066 01:44:04,600 --> 01:44:06,400 Speaker 1: You know, first of all, Jordan Love at less than 2067 01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:08,200 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. The other thing too, is you know 2068 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,599 Speaker 1: Jordan Love is kind of turned the ball over quite 2069 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:14,160 Speaker 1: a bit. Yeah, yeah, leading the NFL and turnovers and 2070 01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,160 Speaker 1: the Lions, I don't know if they're the they're they're 2071 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,040 Speaker 1: tops in the NFL, but they're plus ten and turn 2072 01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,519 Speaker 1: turnover margin, so they're forcing a lot of turnovers. Obviously 2073 01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 1: Jared Goff isn't giving the ball back. You know. Uh, 2074 01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't really have much else to add. I just 2075 01:44:28,160 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 1: I'm excited about this game. Should mention, by the way, 2076 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,320 Speaker 1: you and I are filling in for Dan Byer and 2077 01:44:34,479 --> 01:44:37,800 Speaker 1: Carrie Rhodes five to eight pm Eastern Red Zone Radio, 2078 01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:40,960 Speaker 1: so we will be on air during this game. Cannot 2079 01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,560 Speaker 1: wait for that. 2080 01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:42,920 Speaker 3: Let's let' see. 2081 01:44:42,920 --> 01:44:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, we gotta we got a minute or two 2082 01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,120 Speaker 1: before we gotta get back to to Sega. Let's go 2083 01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:49,080 Speaker 1: ahead and just hit on a couple other games from 2084 01:44:49,280 --> 01:44:53,400 Speaker 1: from Sunday. Uh, you know, not a huge monster slave. 2085 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:55,120 Speaker 1: First of all, let me ask you this really quick, 2086 01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 1: Chicago Arizona. How do you think Chicago bounces back after 2087 01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 1: that debacle last week? 2088 01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2089 01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,120 Speaker 3: That was bad. I honestly don't know. I tend to 2090 01:45:05,160 --> 01:45:09,000 Speaker 3: think they'll be okay, but this could There could be 2091 01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,960 Speaker 3: some really special plays in this game. I mean, we 2092 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:12,800 Speaker 3: know what Caleb's able to do some of the time, 2093 01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,360 Speaker 3: and we've seen what Kyler is able to do, especially 2094 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:18,160 Speaker 3: you know, Marvin Harrison Junior's been there to make some plays. 2095 01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:22,160 Speaker 3: They have that really nice comeback win over Miami. I 2096 01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:25,200 Speaker 3: think that Chicago will bounce back. Now, do I think 2097 01:45:25,240 --> 01:45:27,640 Speaker 3: they win the game, I'm not sure. Arizona's kind of 2098 01:45:27,680 --> 01:45:32,120 Speaker 3: a Arizona's a dangerous team that I definitely think there's 2099 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:35,360 Speaker 3: a ceiling on them. But at the same time, they win. 2100 01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:37,600 Speaker 3: They're winning a lot of games, and I think that 2101 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:40,960 Speaker 3: they have been I think they've They've been in the 2102 01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:43,800 Speaker 3: positive column this year for sure. But I certainly think 2103 01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:47,000 Speaker 3: that the Bears will not have a repeat of last week. 2104 01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 3: That was that was a rough go and it was 2105 01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,760 Speaker 3: a tough watch too. Yeah, it was a tough watch. 2106 01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,560 Speaker 1: I tend to think with not only the way that 2107 01:45:55,680 --> 01:45:59,519 Speaker 1: it ended, but specifically the discourse around it, you know, 2108 01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:02,759 Speaker 1: the Tyreek Stevenson stuff, whatever, I think we get something 2109 01:46:02,840 --> 01:46:04,680 Speaker 1: close to the best effort from the Bears. I think 2110 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:06,479 Speaker 1: the big question is is that enough to win on 2111 01:46:06,640 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 1: the road in Arizona. How about the Sunday night game 2112 01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 1: Vikings coming off two straight losses, it's Flacco time in Indianapolis. 2113 01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:15,960 Speaker 1: We didn't really get a chance to talk much about 2114 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:21,599 Speaker 1: the Anthony Richardson Joe Flacco switch. I'm not totally surprised. 2115 01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,519 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, I think the thing really quick. I 2116 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,360 Speaker 1: would just say everybody focuses on the tap out and 2117 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:29,840 Speaker 1: this and that. But listen, you know you mentioned the 2118 01:46:30,120 --> 01:46:32,639 Speaker 1: stuff going on in Houston right now with all the injuries. 2119 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 1: The division is there for the taking. And I know 2120 01:46:36,320 --> 01:46:38,559 Speaker 1: they're they're they're you know, back in the lost column 2121 01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 1: right now, but the division is there for the taking. 2122 01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:45,240 Speaker 1: Flacco played well, you know, you got talent around him, 2123 01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,400 Speaker 1: with Jonathan Taylor back and whatever. So I was not 2124 01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:52,560 Speaker 1: surprised with the with the news that that Flacco was 2125 01:46:52,600 --> 01:46:55,080 Speaker 1: getting the start, and I am intrigued to see how 2126 01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:57,840 Speaker 1: he looks on Sunday night against Minnesota. 2127 01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:01,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we'll probably have a long discussion about Anthony 2128 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:04,760 Speaker 3: Richardson in weeks to come. You and I are not 2129 01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,439 Speaker 3: surprised that this has gone the way that it has, 2130 01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:11,360 Speaker 3: just because we weren't sure he needed to leave. You understand, 2131 01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,240 Speaker 3: you want to go make your money and all of that, 2132 01:47:13,439 --> 01:47:16,439 Speaker 3: and he certainly has done that, but at what cost 2133 01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,960 Speaker 3: to his football future long term because he really wasn't 2134 01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:23,200 Speaker 3: ready and didn't have the experience I didn't think coming 2135 01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:26,880 Speaker 3: out of Florida, and I understood, man, but look how 2136 01:47:26,920 --> 01:47:29,040 Speaker 3: impressive he is, and you can understand it's like, well, 2137 01:47:29,320 --> 01:47:31,400 Speaker 3: I mean yeah, but if he doesn't play well when 2138 01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:34,160 Speaker 3: he can't be out there, you know, how effective is 2139 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,160 Speaker 3: he really you look at that game as a whole. 2140 01:47:36,200 --> 01:47:38,960 Speaker 3: You're right, it's certainly the division is up. But TJ. 2141 01:47:39,120 --> 01:47:43,400 Speaker 3: Hockinson being back for the first time this year, he's 2142 01:47:43,400 --> 01:47:45,639 Speaker 3: a top flight tight end and a target that Sam 2143 01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:48,599 Speaker 3: Darnold really needs right now because I think Jordan Addison's 2144 01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:50,960 Speaker 3: only getting about four catches a game or four targets 2145 01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:52,960 Speaker 3: a game right now. They might need to balance that 2146 01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:56,160 Speaker 3: a little bit more. But even coming off the two losses, 2147 01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,599 Speaker 3: I mean, the Cults are coming in there with Flacco, 2148 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 3: and I actually think that's the right call. I think 2149 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:05,040 Speaker 3: Flacco does give them a better chance to win because 2150 01:48:05,360 --> 01:48:07,240 Speaker 3: I think he makes better decisions with the ball and 2151 01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:10,519 Speaker 3: then you can maybe open it up a little bit 2152 01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:11,719 Speaker 3: more for Jonathan Taylor. 2153 01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:18,200 Speaker 1: Minnesota just lost too straight, obviously controversial loss to the Rams. 2154 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,000 Speaker 1: Tough division. You know, you don't really want to fault 2155 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,720 Speaker 1: them for losing to you know, maybe the best team 2156 01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:26,240 Speaker 1: in the league in the minute, in the Detroit Lions. 2157 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,840 Speaker 1: What do you expect to see from them on Sunday Night. 2158 01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:34,160 Speaker 3: I think they're I mean, I think they're better than Indianapolis, 2159 01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:37,720 Speaker 3: and I think they're better coach than Indianapolis. Even though 2160 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,760 Speaker 3: I think Styke's Styke's pretty good, I just think O'Connell's 2161 01:48:40,760 --> 01:48:44,040 Speaker 3: on a different level. And I feel like this is 2162 01:48:44,120 --> 01:48:46,439 Speaker 3: the game where Brian Flores can get the defense kind 2163 01:48:46,439 --> 01:48:49,880 Speaker 3: of rolling again. For Minnesota, they've they've leaked a little 2164 01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:51,360 Speaker 3: bit of oil in the last couple of weeks, but 2165 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:55,000 Speaker 3: I could see them having a strong night and Flacco 2166 01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,439 Speaker 3: maybe having a grip a little bit too much. I 2167 01:48:58,520 --> 01:49:00,880 Speaker 3: think Minnesota will win very good. 2168 01:49:01,280 --> 01:49:04,080 Speaker 1: All right, I'll tell you what. That's week nine in 2169 01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:06,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe come back on the other side of 2170 01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,160 Speaker 1: the break and talk about another game or two, but 2171 01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:10,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what we do for the final time 2172 01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,040 Speaker 1: this evening. Have to get to the news desk, Desaga. 2173 01:49:13,160 --> 01:49:13,920 Speaker 1: What is trending? 2174 01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:17,560 Speaker 2: Well, you're talking NFL or reminder. Dallas running back Ezekiel 2175 01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:20,479 Speaker 2: Elliott is out tomorrow for disciplinary reasons. He was not 2176 01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:23,479 Speaker 2: on the team flight to Atlanta. Running Back Dalvin Cook 2177 01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 2: will be active again. The Cowboys rank last in the 2178 01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:29,120 Speaker 2: NFL in rushing under seventy five yards per game as 2179 01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,439 Speaker 2: a team. Green Bay quarterback Jordan Love is expected to 2180 01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,479 Speaker 2: play despite the groin injury that's limited him at practice 2181 01:49:35,560 --> 01:49:38,479 Speaker 2: Thursday and Friday. That's the big game on Fox TV Sunday. 2182 01:49:38,800 --> 01:49:43,120 Speaker 2: Lions at Packers. Patriots quarterback Drake May clear concussion protocol. 2183 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:46,160 Speaker 2: He will start Sunday. He'll face Tennessee's top rank defense. 2184 01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,120 Speaker 2: The Titans are due to start quarterback Mason Rudolph again. 2185 01:49:49,240 --> 01:49:52,960 Speaker 2: Tennessee elevated quarterback Trevor Simeon from the practice squad. Panthers 2186 01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,840 Speaker 2: rookie running back Jonathan Brooks he's out again. He's still 2187 01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:58,960 Speaker 2: on IR with the knee injury. Carolina wide receiver Adam 2188 01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:02,040 Speaker 2: Thielen out with the ham string injury. Giants kicker Greg 2189 01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:05,280 Speaker 2: Joseph was placed on injury reserve. Giants running back Tyrone 2190 01:50:05,320 --> 01:50:09,360 Speaker 2: Tracy had cleared concussion protocol going into the weekend. Brown's 2191 01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,479 Speaker 2: corner Denzel Ward cleared concussion protocol. Build wide receiver for 2192 01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:16,200 Speaker 2: Kansas City Juju Smith Schuster is out Monday due to 2193 01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:19,639 Speaker 2: a hamstring injury. Tampa Bay wide out Mike Evans is out. 2194 01:50:19,720 --> 01:50:23,320 Speaker 2: Still to college football today, Number one Oregon still undefeated, 2195 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:26,719 Speaker 2: a winner at Michigan thirty eight seventeen. Number two Georgia 2196 01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:29,599 Speaker 2: beat Florida with two touchdowns in about the last four minutes, 2197 01:50:29,640 --> 01:50:32,680 Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty. Ohio State beat Penn State for 2198 01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:35,839 Speaker 2: an eight straight year twenty to thirteen. Fifth rank Miami 2199 01:50:36,040 --> 01:50:38,680 Speaker 2: was trailing Duke mid third quarter but still beat him 2200 01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 2: up fifty three thirty one cam Ward with five touchdown passes. 2201 01:50:42,720 --> 01:50:45,479 Speaker 2: Seventh ranked Tennessee at home, was trailing Kentucky ten to 2202 01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:49,000 Speaker 2: seven in the third quarter, but beat Kentucky twenty eighth eighteen. 2203 01:50:49,439 --> 01:50:52,280 Speaker 2: At South Carolina, the game Cocks beat a tenth rank 2204 01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,320 Speaker 2: Texas A and M team that had won seven in 2205 01:50:54,400 --> 01:50:57,920 Speaker 2: a row and m led twenty to seventeen just before 2206 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:00,439 Speaker 2: halftime and then didn't score another point four twenty four 2207 01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,840 Speaker 2: to twenty South Carolina the final Texas Tech wins in 2208 01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:06,519 Speaker 2: the rain on a touchdown with under thirty seconds left. 2209 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:10,120 Speaker 2: At eleventh ranked Iowa State twenty three twenty two. Iowa 2210 01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,799 Speaker 2: State had just taken the lead with about two minutes 2211 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:16,160 Speaker 2: to go. Louisville won at Clemson thirty three twenty one tonight. 2212 01:51:16,200 --> 01:51:18,639 Speaker 2: In fact, it was twenty six to seven mid fourth quarter. 2213 01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:21,400 Speaker 2: Louisville was zho to eight against Clemson all time, all 2214 01:51:21,479 --> 01:51:23,920 Speaker 2: in the last decade Clemson now five and one in 2215 01:51:24,000 --> 01:51:28,920 Speaker 2: the ACC behind Miami. Behind SMU, which led pitt in 2216 01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,519 Speaker 2: a top twenty matchup thirty one to three at the half. 2217 01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,920 Speaker 2: SMU wins the game forty eight to twenty five. Thirteenth 2218 01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,439 Speaker 2: ranked Indiana is nine to oh at trailed ten nothing 2219 01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,479 Speaker 2: early but still won forty seven to ten at Michigan State. 2220 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:44,360 Speaker 2: Who's Your Defense with seven sacks. Houston at home beat 2221 01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,840 Speaker 2: number seventeen Kansas State twenty four to nineteen with two 2222 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,280 Speaker 2: touchdowns in the fourth quarter. Nineteenth ranked Old Miss got 2223 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:54,760 Speaker 2: six touchdown passes from Jackson Dart in a sixty three 2224 01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:58,360 Speaker 2: to thirty one decision at Arkansas. Dart twenty five of 2225 01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:01,719 Speaker 2: thirty one passing for five one hundred and fifteen yards, 2226 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,840 Speaker 2: and Mississippi's defense had eight sacks. Number twenty one Army 2227 01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,360 Speaker 2: is eight and oh after beating Air Force twenty to three, 2228 01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:11,000 Speaker 2: led six three at the half with a backup quarterback 2229 01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,400 Speaker 2: due to an undisclosed injury. Minnesota won at Illinois twenty 2230 01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,880 Speaker 2: five seventeen. Minnesota's won four straight in conference. Illinois, which 2231 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,000 Speaker 2: was ranked twenty fourth, is three and three in conference 2232 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,439 Speaker 2: and off next week. The first playoff rankings come out Tuesday. 2233 01:52:24,760 --> 01:52:27,280 Speaker 2: Among the ten NBA games, Boston won to go to 2234 01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,920 Speaker 2: six and one. Golden State blew a big lead but 2235 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:32,400 Speaker 2: still won in overtime. The Warriors are five and one. 2236 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,160 Speaker 2: Phoenix won five and one, Denver ripped Utah, Utah is 2237 01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:39,240 Speaker 2: ozh and six, Oklahoma City six and oh after beating 2238 01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:41,240 Speaker 2: the Clippers in LA in the late game. The Clippers 2239 01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:44,560 Speaker 2: in their new arena oh and four, and Cleveland is 2240 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,120 Speaker 2: seven and o this year after its one fourteen, one 2241 01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:50,000 Speaker 2: thirteen win at Milwaukee on a last second shot by 2242 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:50,759 Speaker 2: Donovan Mitchell. 2243 01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:53,200 Speaker 1: Back to you, Thank you very much, Steve Sager. This 2244 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:57,439 Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday into Sunday air 2245 01:52:57,520 --> 01:53:00,360 Speaker 1: towards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the tyreck dot Com studios. 2246 01:53:00,400 --> 01:53:03,880 Speaker 1: Will come back. One segment left, continue the look ahead 2247 01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:08,120 Speaker 1: to a busy Sunday in college football. That's all next 2248 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,599 Speaker 1: Fox Busy Sunday in college Football. It's our last segment. 2249 01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:13,400 Speaker 1: We got one left, and it's about time I gotta 2250 01:53:13,439 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: get out of here. Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, 2251 01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:21,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio er towards day spart and broadcasting live 2252 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:24,640 Speaker 1: from the Tireck dot com studios. We are taking up 2253 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:28,600 Speaker 1: till two a m. Eastern time. Bernie Frado of The 2254 01:53:28,680 --> 01:53:33,360 Speaker 1: Bernie Frado Show follows us shortly after our show. Podcasts 2255 01:53:33,360 --> 01:53:35,240 Speaker 1: will be going up. If you missed any of today' show, 2256 01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:37,160 Speaker 1: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox 2257 01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:39,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and be sure 2258 01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:43,000 Speaker 1: to also follow, rate and review the show. Again. Just 2259 01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:46,160 Speaker 1: search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts, and 2260 01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:50,160 Speaker 1: you'll see this show posted after we get off air. 2261 01:53:50,920 --> 01:53:54,080 Speaker 1: Jamar one other game real quickly from week nine in 2262 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:57,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. We talked about the Cowboys earlier. You can 2263 01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,000 Speaker 1: listen to that conversation an hour two of the podcast. 2264 01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:03,400 Speaker 1: As you think there's any chance they get right on 2265 01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:07,400 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Atlanta Falcons. The game is in Atlanta, 2266 01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:11,160 Speaker 1: of course, Atlanta playing some pretty good football overall, sitting 2267 01:54:11,240 --> 01:54:13,800 Speaker 1: at five and three, went over Tampa the last time 2268 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:14,840 Speaker 1: we saw them take the field. 2269 01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:18,120 Speaker 3: Any chance, sure, but I'll take Atlanta. I mean, I 2270 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:21,360 Speaker 3: think that it's more likely that you don't get right, 2271 01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:24,080 Speaker 3: but it is kind of I mean, are they is 2272 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,560 Speaker 3: Atlanta some team you're terrified by? No, there's still a 2273 01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,560 Speaker 3: lot of talent on Dallas's team. I just think that 2274 01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,880 Speaker 3: every it doesn't feel like a galvanizing moment for them. 2275 01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,880 Speaker 3: I don't see that on the immediate horizon. So I'll 2276 01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,560 Speaker 3: take Atlanta. But if you want me to say, yeah, 2277 01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,240 Speaker 3: there's a chance, sure, there's a chance. I mean, I 2278 01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:47,040 Speaker 3: don't think that there's It would be a stunner that 2279 01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:50,480 Speaker 3: they would go onto the road to vaunted Atlanta and 2280 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,360 Speaker 3: beat the Falcons on a random Sunday in the middle 2281 01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:54,840 Speaker 3: of the season. 2282 01:54:54,920 --> 01:54:56,640 Speaker 1: Probably a poorly phrased question by me. 2283 01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:58,680 Speaker 3: How about no, I just know, I'm just saying like, 2284 01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:00,560 Speaker 3: I just feel like that's the only the answer is 2285 01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:03,160 Speaker 3: just yeah, they could. I don't know if i'd call 2286 01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:04,880 Speaker 3: it a get right game, just because I still don't 2287 01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:06,600 Speaker 3: think they'd be right even if they won the game. 2288 01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:10,240 Speaker 1: How about your your Denver Broncos. They go to Baltimore, 2289 01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,840 Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna win, but I don't know if 2290 01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:15,920 Speaker 1: it's quiet or not. But they've won five of six obviously. 2291 01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,520 Speaker 1: You know in the AFC, where there's a lot of 2292 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:21,480 Speaker 1: teams that aren't living up to expectation, Cincinnati, you know, 2293 01:55:21,560 --> 01:55:24,600 Speaker 1: you go on and on down the list. Denver's in prime, 2294 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,560 Speaker 1: wasn't Denvers over under five and a half? Coming into 2295 01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:30,440 Speaker 1: the season. Well, they're five and three, they can get 2296 01:55:30,480 --> 01:55:32,600 Speaker 1: to six. They can hit that over the first week 2297 01:55:32,640 --> 01:55:34,600 Speaker 1: in November. That'd be a nice little ticket to cash 2298 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:39,240 Speaker 1: for the Betters in Baltimore Sunday at one pm Eastern Jmark. 2299 01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't feel good about this one 2300 01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,360 Speaker 3: for my guys, but I'm just excited to see them 2301 01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:48,440 Speaker 3: be five and three and the defense playing the way 2302 01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:52,200 Speaker 3: that it has for Vance Joseph, and I'm still waiting 2303 01:55:52,280 --> 01:55:55,320 Speaker 3: to see them, like fully, like pull the lid off 2304 01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,600 Speaker 3: of Bonis and see what he can do with that offense. 2305 01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:02,200 Speaker 3: But there's still something missing in that receiving corps. There's 2306 01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:04,840 Speaker 3: there are a few things that you don't like. But 2307 01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:07,480 Speaker 3: I do think he's getting a little bit more comfortable, 2308 01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,640 Speaker 3: a little bit more confident. I think they're getting a 2309 01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:13,320 Speaker 3: little more confident in him. He's making some better reads. 2310 01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:15,720 Speaker 3: They're keeping it fairly simple for him. But at the 2311 01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:19,560 Speaker 3: same time, he's I think he's playing better football. I'm 2312 01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,600 Speaker 3: still trying to figure out how Baltimore lost last week. 2313 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:27,800 Speaker 3: And imagine this, right, you put James Winston in there 2314 01:56:27,800 --> 01:56:33,360 Speaker 3: and you win that game against Baltimore, how do you 2315 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:37,520 Speaker 3: feel if you're a Browns fan considering the Deshaun Watson experience, Well, 2316 01:56:37,560 --> 01:56:39,720 Speaker 3: I think how that all went down, and then as 2317 01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,560 Speaker 3: soon as he goes out, the Browns look not just 2318 01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:45,960 Speaker 3: competent but good well all the way around. Hey, I 2319 01:56:46,040 --> 01:56:48,120 Speaker 3: know you got Nick Chubb back, but you just look 2320 01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,800 Speaker 3: competent at quarterback again, and it is unreal. 2321 01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:53,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's so many emotions, and that was one of 2322 01:56:53,400 --> 01:56:54,720 Speaker 1: the things I had on the list that I forgot 2323 01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:58,520 Speaker 1: to mention earlier. But how about Stefanski. Stefanski literally wins 2324 01:56:58,600 --> 01:57:01,640 Speaker 1: with everyone except for Deshaun Watson. So you said, how 2325 01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:03,040 Speaker 1: do you feel as a Browns fan? And I know 2326 01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,520 Speaker 1: it was a rhetorical question, kind of like my can 2327 01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:08,480 Speaker 1: the Cowboys win question, but it's like it's like, I 2328 01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,200 Speaker 1: know exactly how you feel. You feel, like, what are 2329 01:57:11,240 --> 01:57:13,360 Speaker 1: we doing? We wasted a season and we got this 2330 01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:17,440 Speaker 1: albatross of a contract because again, Stefanski won with Joe 2331 01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,160 Speaker 1: Flacco when Deshaun got hurt. Stefanski won with Baker when 2332 01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:23,160 Speaker 1: he got hurt. I don't remember much of it, but 2333 01:57:23,440 --> 01:57:26,280 Speaker 1: Stefansky won with PJ. Walker there for half a minute, 2334 01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like, you know, so one, I 2335 01:57:29,880 --> 01:57:31,760 Speaker 1: think he's a really good coach. I think Deshaun is 2336 01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:35,920 Speaker 1: just it's over. It might literally be over with the Achilles, 2337 01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:38,200 Speaker 1: but uh, you know, he's obviously gonna try to make 2338 01:57:38,200 --> 01:57:40,520 Speaker 1: a comeback if Rogers and Kirk Cousins could do what 2339 01:57:40,600 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 1: he can too. But I just think it's it's it's 2340 01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:44,720 Speaker 1: pretty much done for you. 2341 01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,880 Speaker 3: Know, yeah, I mean it's it's it's just amazing to 2342 01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,640 Speaker 3: watch that. And then you look at James You're like, well, 2343 01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:55,160 Speaker 3: is Jamis about to have a his Baker Mayfield moment there? 2344 01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:58,560 Speaker 3: You know, he has an opportunity again, And you always 2345 01:57:58,640 --> 01:58:01,760 Speaker 3: get there's moments with James where you're just like, man, 2346 01:58:02,000 --> 01:58:04,520 Speaker 3: if he could just harness this a little bit more often, 2347 01:58:05,560 --> 01:58:08,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he could be really special. But he's fun 2348 01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:10,840 Speaker 3: to watch. He is, like the Browns are now again 2349 01:58:10,960 --> 01:58:14,040 Speaker 3: fun to watch. They were unwatchable with Deshaun Watson and 2350 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 3: now they're the exact opposite because we know they have 2351 01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,640 Speaker 3: studs on defense. You get chubbed back. You know you've 2352 01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:21,920 Speaker 3: got talent, you got in Djoku back now as well. 2353 01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:25,320 Speaker 3: You know you lost a receiver there certainly, and that's 2354 01:58:25,320 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 3: a big deal. But I just it's just amazing how 2355 01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:32,240 Speaker 3: your fortunes change there and then you beat Baltimore, and 2356 01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what that was. Quite frankly, I think 2357 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:38,760 Speaker 3: Baltimore will beat Denver. But it is a good defense 2358 01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:41,240 Speaker 3: in Denver, and maybe Javonte Williams can run the ball 2359 01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,720 Speaker 3: because Baltimore's done a poor job it stopping to run 2360 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,280 Speaker 3: this year and makes it interesting. But I just like 2361 01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,520 Speaker 3: the fact that it's a five and three Denver team 2362 01:58:49,080 --> 01:58:52,760 Speaker 3: that is, you know, I think overperforming based on every metric. 2363 01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,680 Speaker 1: We got about we got about twenty seconds left. J 2364 01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:59,280 Speaker 1: Mart Alabama at LSU next week, basically an elimination game 2365 01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:02,920 Speaker 1: when war come out on air next Saturday. Who's gonna 2366 01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:04,760 Speaker 1: have the big win that keeps him in the playoff race. 2367 01:59:04,880 --> 01:59:07,560 Speaker 3: Ession, I have no idea too. I mean too, He'll 2368 01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:11,000 Speaker 3: be honest, I mean I have no idea. I think 2369 01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:16,120 Speaker 3: I'll take Alabama, But no, you know what, I have 2370 01:59:16,240 --> 01:59:18,040 Speaker 3: no idea. I'm not even gonna answer that question. I 2371 01:59:18,160 --> 01:59:18,840 Speaker 3: got no clue. 2372 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:21,160 Speaker 1: Well, you got plenty of time to think about it. 2373 01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. 2374 01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:22,160 Speaker 3: We do. 2375 01:59:22,280 --> 01:59:23,920 Speaker 1: Have to get out of here for the evening. Should mention, 2376 01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:25,560 Speaker 1: by the way, J Mart and I will be in 2377 01:59:25,640 --> 01:59:29,360 Speaker 1: for Dan Byer and carry Rhodes, five pm Eastern Tomorrow, 2378 01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:32,480 Speaker 1: Red Zone Radio. So excited to be reacting to the 2379 01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:34,800 Speaker 1: early game and in real time reacting to the late game, 2380 01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:35,840 Speaker 1: but we got to get out of here. I want 2381 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,120 Speaker 1: to thank the crew, Marymack on the board, Producer Pat 2382 01:59:38,200 --> 01:59:41,440 Speaker 1: Fillin in for Ian did a great job. Steve Disager 2383 01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:44,360 Speaker 1: from my partner Jason Martin, I'm er Torres. Make sure 2384 01:59:44,600 --> 01:59:47,480 Speaker 1: to download the podcast. We talked a ton of college football. 2385 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:50,480 Speaker 1: You don't want to miss anything there. Bernie Frado's coming 2386 01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:53,360 Speaker 1: up next five hour shift for Bernie. Cannot wait to 2387 01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,680 Speaker 1: hear what he has to say. This is Fox Sports 2388 01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:55,880 Speaker 1: for you.