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Speaker 1: The One Bills Live presented by Callida Health. Hey, we

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live Friday edition, Which means a whole host

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Speaker 2: We do want to bring you up to speed on

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Speaker 2: the goings on with player availability for Sunday's game against

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Speaker 2: the Patriots. Head coach Sean McDermott, on his weekly appearance

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Speaker 2: out there are three players that he already ruled out

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Speaker 2: in the concussion protocol, tight end Quinton Morris with an

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Speaker 2: injury report is released. Bill's practice updates presented by Lee

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Speaker 2: coom Your Lake Erie, College of Ostia, Pathok Medicine. Josh

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Speaker 2: back to full participation. That's all good news, So and

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Speaker 2: Holy crow, are the tight end's gonna eat this week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks that way. They the Patriots struggled with

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they were struggling. They had trouble keeping

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Speaker 3: And then you know, Steph Diggs is gonna go ran.

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Speaker 3: No, I think that guys can do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't all that impressed with New England's offensive line, which,

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Speaker 2: On yesterday's show, as we do every Thursday, we had

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Speaker 2: It's the in stadium experience that we were slightly concerned about,

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Speaker 1: Twitter saying thank you for helping me make good choices.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and don't be a bad guy. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 2: What you got on the grill this week? What are

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, we've already seen that movie once this season

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Speaker 3: this injury report is getting better for the Bills, no question.

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Speaker 2: Let's dip into the Friday fan mail bag here to

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Speaker 2: get some of your questions answered. Rubio asks, do you

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Speaker 1: Decision making.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and we saw when they were highly

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Speaker 1: And that's gone away the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: And just get cook out on a swing route, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, you get a receiver out there blocking in front

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Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't care what route it is,

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Speaker 2: The other question that we have in the mail bag

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you'd like to see them?

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Speaker 3: Pretenders? Are contender?

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Speaker 2: What do you think of Hunter Renfro slot receiver for

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Speaker 3: No, No, he's he's as old as you.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he can't.

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Speaker 3: Julian Edelman and Wes Welker famous. Why can't that guy

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Speaker 3: So I'm no, I'm fine, all right, I'm fine. What

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Speaker 2: You know, if you want to kick the tires on somebody,

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Speaker 1: I would listen to. What can I think Brandon Bean

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Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah, particularly with Trey.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what he's gonna look like even when

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Speaker 2: he does come back, right, I don't know. Dollars in

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Speaker 2: dollars out, you know, do you have to send dollars

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Speaker 2: the other way in the form of a player, or

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Speaker 2: is it good enough to just part with a pick.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a decision you got to make there.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it depends on the compensation obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Uh so we'll see. I guess is the answer there.

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Speaker 2: David asks, not related to our upcoming game, but didn't

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Speaker 2: the Bill show the NFL a blueprint of how to

447
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Speaker 2: beat Miami? Why aren't other teams trying the same strategy. Well,

448
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 2: it's easier said than done. I mean, the Bills have

449
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Speaker 2: an all world quarterback and scored forty eight points. They

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Speaker 2: also have a top five defense that has the talent

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Speaker 2: to slow down Miami and played a discipline brand of

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Speaker 2: defense where they didn't buy all the eye candy and

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Speaker 2: rallied effectively to the football. That doesn't mean that Miami

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Speaker 2: didn't have some big plays, but I think it just

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Speaker 2: shows you it's easier said than done.

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Speaker 1: The Bills got I mean they're ready to set records.

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Speaker 3: They are. I mean they're averaging at home this season

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Speaker 3: in three games, the Miami Dolphins have had forty seven points. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they can ring it up. They're very good. We know

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Speaker 3: it to has to be in the conversation for MVP

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Speaker 3: right now, has to be has to be whether you

462
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Speaker 3: like Miami, whether you're you gotta it's like, you gotta

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Speaker 3: respect it, you gotta respect it. And the Bills ran

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Speaker 3: it up on them because they were really, really good

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Speaker 3: that day on both sides of the ball, and Miami's

466
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Speaker 3: defense couldn't hold up and the Bill's defense held up better.

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Speaker 3: Remember it got out. It was Bill's touchdown, Miami touchdown,

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Speaker 3: Bill's touchdown, Bills touchdown. And then Miami's faltered when the

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Speaker 3: Bills got them off the field and they scored again.

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Speaker 3: So now they're up two touchdowns. And then Miami faltered

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Speaker 3: once more before halftime, and the Bills attacked a field

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Speaker 3: goal on It was thirty one fourteen at half. It

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Speaker 3: takes a full roster to beat Miami. And this just

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Speaker 3: in Brownie and I have been sitting here for months

475
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Speaker 3: telling you this is a full roster. The Bills are deep.

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Speaker 3: It's been tested, no question, but they're deep, and not

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Speaker 3: many teams can pull off the kind of game plan

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Speaker 3: and performance that the Bill's defense can and the Bill's

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Speaker 3: offense in conjunction with it.

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Speaker 2: Jay Lesh says, is there something going on with Josh's vision?

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Speaker 2: Does he have issues tracking in his periphery? He appears

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Speaker 2: to be not seeing open receivers at times, or is

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Speaker 2: it a trust issue. It's a good question, you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think his peripheral vision is the problem here.

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Speaker 2: I think it's his decision making. He there are times,

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Speaker 2: especially when the offense sputters. We've seen this before, when

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Speaker 2: the offense sputters and they're not in a rhythm, Josh

488
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 2: tries to get it all in one play.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean?

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Speaker 2: That means when he has a three level concept on

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Speaker 2: a given pass play, he's looking deep first, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: we'll hang on that deep route and wait on it,

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Speaker 2: even if he's got a guy running underneath for a

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Speaker 2: free fifteen yards. He's been doing that for three seasons.

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Speaker 2: During his high efficiency weeks two through four, he did

496
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Speaker 2: not do that. He was more willing to take the

497
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Speaker 2: check down. He was taking the easy yards, the high

498
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Speaker 2: percentage throws. But then he kind of fell back into

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Speaker 2: that trap against Jacksonville to some extent, and then last

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Speaker 2: week against the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it on opening night at the Jets

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Speaker 3: as well and turned into interceptions. And and he has

503
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Speaker 3: done a really nice job of getting away from that

504
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Speaker 3: for the most part, but every so often, particularly in

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Speaker 3: the game. You can just tell there are situations where

506
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Speaker 3: he he's thinking what we needed here or I got

507
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 3: to have it here, and he'll go deep. But when

508
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: it's a close gamer, when the Bills have the lead,

509
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: he tends to relax and just say I'm just gonna

510
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,399
Speaker 3: take the easy stuff. That's why getting off to a

511
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 3: fast start I think is so important for this club

512
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Speaker 3: because it doesn't put him in that mind get him

513
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Speaker 3: in that mindset where he's like, we gotta come on, man,

514
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Speaker 3: let's go, and then it gets worse, not better.

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Speaker 1: As it pertains to the trust question.

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Speaker 3: Steve, I'm no psychologist, but that's my opinion when.

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Speaker 1: It comes to the trust issue.

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Speaker 3: Steve.

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Speaker 2: We noted this in the offseason, the roster at receiver

520
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: turned over considerably. The only returning players from last year's

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00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 2: roster at the receiver position were Diggs, Davis, and Shakir.

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Speaker 2: Is it any coincidence that the top two targeted players

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00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: are Diggs and Davis. Kinkaid is new He's gotten a

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00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: ton of reps with Josh, but miss last week's game

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00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: has largely been catching underneath rows. Knox's targets are down,

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Speaker 2: and you know you've got Shaquir who's shown up here

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Speaker 2: and there, but Hardy and Sherfield have really had a

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Speaker 2: tough time getting assimilated into.

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Speaker 1: The passing game.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Uh, do you call that trust or is it something

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Speaker 1: else at work?

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Speaker 4: Do you believe?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: I think that's you can call it trust. I don't

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00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 3: think there's any question it's it has something to do

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00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: with the relationship the way Josh sees it, assimilating them

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00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 3: into the offense, trying to run on this that offense

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00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: of theirs with new skill sets around him. I think

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Speaker 3: it's too easy and probably probably not true for us

541
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Speaker 3: to sit here and say, well, Deontay hard is just

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00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: like Isaiah Mackenzie was. Now don't they use him the

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00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 3: same way? And it may not very well not be

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Speaker 3: the case. They might have a very different skill set

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00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,679
Speaker 3: just because you know the same type of athletic ability

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00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: and stuff, you have different skill sets. So I think

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Speaker 3: it's too complex a question for us to know without

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00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 3: actually getting in there and seeing it. But something's different

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00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 3: the last couple of weeks anyway, for that week's two

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00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: through four, two three and four, it was better than

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00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 3: it's ever been. You know, they need to get back

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00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: to that. I need to find a way to reconstitute

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00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: that offense right back on the field.

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Speaker 2: We have to step aside here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: it'll be a little bit of excuse me, mister Tasker.

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Speaker 2: We'll see which is the winning question for Steve to

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Speaker 2: week's question comes in from Patrick Jaeger or Jaeger not

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Speaker 2: sure the pronunciation so for give me question is Steve.

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Speaker 2: One of my all time favorite Bills players is former

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Speaker 2: center Kent Hull. Kent was one of the unsung heroes

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Speaker 2: during the Bills Super Bowl years. Can you tell us

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Speaker 2: more about your former teammate? Do you have any memories

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Speaker 2: you can share?

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Speaker 3: Thanks the ones that Kent was without going into all

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Speaker 3: the details. He was universally respected in our locker room,

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Speaker 3: spoken a Southern in a Mississippi drawl. Really, there's two

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Speaker 3: different things. Intelligence and wisdom are two different things. He

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Speaker 3: had oodles of both of those. His nickname was tough,

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Speaker 3: and that was all They called him tough, and that

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Speaker 3: gives you an idea of who he was. The Five

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Speaker 3: Presidents text loop that I'm a part of, just a

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Speaker 3: few days ago commemorated his passing. It's been now, it's

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Speaker 3: twelve years since he passed, and we all had a

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Speaker 3: round of his sorrow to see him go. He died

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00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: all too young, and Kent left behind his wife and

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Speaker 3: his two children. Kay, his wife, and you know, when

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00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 3: you play this game the way we did, and we

592
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: had this group of guys that went and did some

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Speaker 3: cool stuff together. Certain guys carried played a big role

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Speaker 3: in that Kent's role was that I saw the guy

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Speaker 3: in a training camp getting a fight with Bruce Smith

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00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 3: for the right reason, but still, you know, it was

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00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: just that kind of guy. Then they were close, and

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00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 3: word is passing. I can't really say enough about Kent.

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Speaker 3: He's the guy that came in signed the exact same

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Speaker 3: day as Jim Kelly. And the story he always told

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00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: was the gym had the drive the limousine and they

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00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: were driving from the airport to the to the stadium

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Speaker 3: and stuff, and Kent was in the equipment van behind

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Speaker 3: and some panel truck behind riding behind the limo, yep,

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00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: and he was okay with it. He he had story

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Speaker 3: after story like that about he was a Mississippi State

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Speaker 3: graduate Hall of Fame when he came back, when he

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00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: came into Buffalo the first time he told the story

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Speaker 3: he was Jim Ringo, the Hall of Fame Green Bay

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Speaker 3: Packer who Jim Ringo's on the Hall of Fame with

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00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 3: the Packers and with the Philadelphia Eagles. Uh, he was

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00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator when I arrived here. So the Bills

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00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: hire this is this is kind of how chaotic it

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Speaker 3: was back in the day. They hire Kent and another guy,

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Speaker 3: Kent as center, the other guy's guard. They're coming out

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Speaker 3: and Kent was so, can you know had some chops.

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Speaker 3: He'd played in the USA, the US. Yeah, he was,

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Speaker 3: you know, a respected player, but he was he was silent.

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Speaker 3: He was not going to He would never speak up

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Speaker 3: and say hey, you got that wrong kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: He was always like, just let you figure it out

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Speaker 3: that you were the one who was the donkey.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 3: So Jim Ringo, who is iconic now his offensive coordinator,

625
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Speaker 3: he's out there and he's talking, and Jim Ringo was

626
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Speaker 3: kind of he was as salty as they come. And

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Speaker 3: these two guys get it and I don't even know

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Speaker 3: who the guard was, but it was Kent in this

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Speaker 3: guard and Ringo got him confused, thought Kent was the

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Speaker 3: guard and this other guy was the sinner. So he

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Speaker 3: gets out and he goes and he's, you know, you

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Speaker 3: can just had a game or practice. Is first time

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Speaker 3: they met. Oh okay, is that a practice And he goes, yeah,

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Speaker 3: let me see your stand get and he said the

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Speaker 3: guard getting just get in the guard, get down the guard,

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Speaker 3: give me your stance out. So Kid's like, I don't

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Speaker 3: even have a guard stance. I don't even I don't

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Speaker 3: know which hand to put down. So he gets down

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Speaker 3: in the stands and Ringo loses it. He's gotta what

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Speaker 3: you do. He's like kicking his foot, Get this fuck out,

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Speaker 3: Get this foot out here, put this and k and

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Speaker 3: Ki goes Ko John I play center, and then Ringo

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Speaker 3: realized he was him who had n't flipped around and

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Speaker 3: and messed up, and he's like, uh, oh dude, sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm the donkey. But he was gonna, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: just law. She's like, you know, you can imagine just

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Speaker 3: like trying to straighten out the leg of a chair,

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Speaker 3: you know, like kick it out where it's supposed to

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Speaker 3: be that and he Kent told the story like he

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Speaker 3: was still in trouble, right the guy's in the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: He was I was just trying to keep my head

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Speaker 3: down because you know, Jim Ringo had that kind of sway,

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Speaker 3: but Kent was it was it was funny. Kent was

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Speaker 3: the smartest dude you'll ever meet, and he just would

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Speaker 3: He was not he was not gonna go there.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 2: The media relied heavily on Kent to paint the picture

658
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Speaker 2: of what was going on with the team, whether it

659
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Speaker 2: was good or whether it was bad, media members would

660
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Speaker 2: gravitate to his locker to get answers, you know, basically

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Speaker 2: lay it out for us, what is going on here?

662
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Speaker 2: Is this a full blown crisis? And what he said

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Speaker 2: was taken as gospel by the media. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Kent decided, well, you know, let me snow

665
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Speaker 2: these guys, but more often than not, it felt like

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Speaker 2: he was giving it to you straight. So I always

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Speaker 2: found that interesting because, yeah, I was, you know, I

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Speaker 2: was a young reporter near the end of his career,

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Speaker 2: in your career obviously, and just seeing how often the

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Speaker 2: veteran reporters flocked to Kent's locker was noticeable right away.

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Speaker 3: Was spoken a southern drawl and didn't speak very much,

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Speaker 3: but was a brilliant communicator. Yeah, all that stuff kind

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Speaker 3: of seemed like a dichotomy, but it really was true.

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Speaker 3: He got to the core of the truth very quickly,

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Speaker 3: which is why the media loved him. May give you

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Speaker 3: a headline that was totally got to the heart of

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Speaker 3: the problem and whatever it was. And you know, in

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Speaker 3: this and then as back then, it was getting more

679
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Speaker 3: and more like it is today. It's a five second

680
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Speaker 3: sound bite and his ability to speak the way he

681
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Speaker 3: spoke was was gold for the guys in in our

682
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Speaker 3: industry now and and and he was. Yeah, so they

683
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Speaker 3: he's just a tremendous asset to the team on the field,

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Speaker 3: a tremendous friend and teammate, to us on the in

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Speaker 3: the locker room, great husband, father, and obviously an asset

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Speaker 3: even to the community and to the to the to

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Speaker 3: the team as it was perceived in the community. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's a guy who passed away all too young. We

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Speaker 3: miss and we talk about him, uh still with our friends.

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Speaker 3: That's the kind of effect he had on us. So

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Speaker 3: it's it's a good question. I'm glad you brought up

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Speaker 3: and it's nice to remember my friend, and you know,

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Speaker 3: just appreciate people bringing him up and knowing he was

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite guys too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Patrick, congratulations. You will be receiving in the mail

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Speaker 2: the mystery Memorabilia pack courtesy of Total Sports Experience. So

698
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Speaker 2: we move along here because we've got to get this

699
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Speaker 2: in as well. We kind of go through the locker

700
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Speaker 2: room to see what the players are thinking about this

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Speaker 2: upcoming game against the Patriots. It's called Soundbits, which is

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Speaker 2: presented by Tim Hortons. In this week's edition, we'll hear

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Speaker 2: from some of the top quotes from head coach Sean McDermott,

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Speaker 2: quarterback Josh Allen, and other Bills players heading into Sunday.

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Speaker 6: Well, we've got great respect for the Patriots and what

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Speaker 6: they've accomplished them and they have a deep history of winning,

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Speaker 6: and that's not easy to do in this league. And

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Speaker 6: so really our focus is on this week's game and

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Speaker 6: not what's happened in the past or what's going to

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Speaker 6: happen in the future. But our focus and sole focus

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Speaker 6: needs to be on this week's game.

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Speaker 5: It still looks like the same Patriots teemed to me.

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Speaker 5: It still looks like the same fundamentals, the same techniques.

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Speaker 5: You can see the greatness there. It just hasn't come

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Speaker 5: to fruish and yet. And I think part of that

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Speaker 5: reason is because in a lot of games that they

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Speaker 5: play this season, it's been over early, like they've been

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Speaker 5: really early, and I think you know.

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Speaker 3: That's been one of the problems.

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Speaker 5: They had turnovers early in the game, which kind of

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Speaker 5: took them out of the rhythm.

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Speaker 7: No matter who we play every week, we know that

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Speaker 7: every NFL team has talent you can never go in

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Speaker 7: there and expect just to really beat someone by a

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Speaker 7: lot of points. So we never we never try to

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Speaker 7: take that perspective. Everyone's got talent everyone, I mean, that's

727
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Speaker 7: how the NFL structured, you know, for parody, trying to

728
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Speaker 7: make sure every game's close. So for the most part,

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Speaker 7: we're just focusing on what we can focus on, and

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Speaker 7: that's kind of.

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Speaker 3: The same thing for us every week.

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Speaker 7: Just our execution, the way we you know, run the

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Speaker 7: plays is the most important. So I think we're just

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Speaker 7: focusing on last morning than anything.

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Speaker 8: We work on the details and execute, listen to every

736
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Speaker 8: game when this league is not going to be a

737
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Speaker 8: blow up by thirty. I know that's not what everyone

738
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Speaker 8: wants to hear. It's what we strive for, right It's

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Speaker 8: not changing who we are, is doubling down on what

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Speaker 8: we know works, and for us, that's just being consistent

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Speaker 8: and not riding the highs and lows of outside noise

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Speaker 8: or even self doubting yourself. So it'll just be kind

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Speaker 8: of recommitting ourselves to being consistent as possible.

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Speaker 9: We know as an offense we've got to be better.

745
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Speaker 9: Comes down to the guys on the field and myself

746
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Speaker 9: included on executing the plays that coach Dorsey calls. So

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Speaker 9: you know, we're going to have a detailed week, you know,

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Speaker 9: and look forward to get back on the field and

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Speaker 9: trying to go out there and put together our best

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Speaker 9: performance yet. And again it's no easy task going against

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Speaker 9: the Patriots and Bill Belichick, So we have to understand that,

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Speaker 9: you know, we're not going to score every time we

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Speaker 9: touch the ball, but you know, going out there and

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Speaker 9: just trying to execute every play and taking it one

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Speaker 9: play at a time.

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Speaker 10: I think just as an offense as a whole, for

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Speaker 10: us to be able to you know, get that first

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Speaker 10: first down and be able to click, you know, and

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Speaker 10: it's like the talent that we have on offense is

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's it's through the roof. And so

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Speaker 10: once we're able to click, and once we're able to

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Speaker 10: get going, it's it's it's no it's no telling, no

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Speaker 10: disguise the limit for us.

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Speaker 11: So overall, yeah, just shorten everything a little bit and

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Speaker 11: run will we know best and be able to go

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Speaker 11: out there and and fly around and it will help everybody.

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Speaker 3: A fact.

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Speaker 11: That's a great approach to anything when it comes to

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Speaker 11: this is just the less you have to worry about,

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Speaker 11: the more free you can play, if that makes sense.

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Speaker 11: And obviously that comes with preparation.

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Speaker 12: As well, Greg Aj, you know, all the all those

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Speaker 12: guys up front, you know, are having are having a

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Speaker 12: hell of a year, and you know, want to continue

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Speaker 12: to do that for them. And you know, anytime be

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Speaker 12: able to get Von out there fresh and you know,

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Speaker 12: whether it's third down, second and long, you know, pass

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Speaker 12: situations right now, to to kind of get him back

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Speaker 12: in his rhythm. You know, it's huge. Its huge for

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Speaker 12: our defense, it's huge for Vaughn. Takes a lot of

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Speaker 12: pressure off of you know, all those guys up front.

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Speaker 12: And you know, as long as those guys keep rushing, man,

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Speaker 12: you know we're gonna make They're gonna make a.

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Speaker 13: Ton of plays.

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Speaker 12: They're gonna help us make a ton of plays on

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Speaker 12: the back end.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 2: So that soundbits presented by Tim Horton. Steve One comment

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Speaker 2: that was interesting Gabe Davis saying they're looking to simplify

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Speaker 2: this week.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean to you? Smaller volume of plays,

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Speaker 1: you know, shorter game.

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Speaker 3: Maybe if you will, maybe or maybe they're taking out

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Speaker 3: some of the adjustments or some of the read things

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Speaker 3: they might be taking off some of the options for

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Speaker 3: some of the option routes. I don't know. It could be.

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Speaker 3: It could be a bunch of stuff. It could be

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Speaker 3: less check with me at the line. It could mean

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Speaker 3: simpler play route concepts. It could mean given the receivers

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Speaker 3: on the outside or the skill positions, less things to read.

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Speaker 3: So when you go out and line up, you kind

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Speaker 3: of know what you're gonna do, rather than seeing the

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Speaker 3: defense looking at the over the and then saying case,

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Speaker 3: since they're doing this, I'm doing this other thing. Just

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Speaker 3: take off and run. You know what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Could be any or all of that, gotcha.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep an eye out for it on Sunday against

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Speaker 2: the Patriots. Break time for us here when we come back,

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Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 4: Gary?

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Speaker 14: Hey, good afternoon, gentlemen. I just wanted to add on

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Speaker 14: to what you were talking earlier about Ken Hall Steve.

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Speaker 14: I lived down in the Nashville area and just by

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Speaker 14: chance about a half hours south, and if you'd let

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Speaker 14: me give a little feedback and a nice interesting story

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Speaker 14: of how how how how life is given to others

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Speaker 14: in more than one way. It's a small antique store

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Speaker 14: and I walked in and happen to see this little

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Speaker 14: football that was signed. I go Ken Holl Hall of

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Speaker 14: same interesting, walk over to her. Mary was her name,

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Speaker 14: and I put it down and said, yeah, you know

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Speaker 14: this is interesting, and she got alteriy eyed. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 14: and she goes, I've known him since he was in

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Speaker 14: kindergarten and just twenty minutes of him, of him and

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Speaker 14: his family, and what she had for her family because

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Speaker 14: I guess they were good friends, and the families, and

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Speaker 14: how he portrayed and, as you said, a great father

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Speaker 14: when he came back to Mississippi after his career was over,

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Speaker 14: and he was about as humble and loving of a

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Speaker 14: person that she ever knew. And so, you know, after

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Speaker 14: the conversation, you know, she was, I'm just going to

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Speaker 14: go back and have a good crime. Yeah, I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 14: but yeah, it's just you know, it touches a person

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Speaker 14: and more than just football. It was interesting how it

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Speaker 14: just affected others and how he was a very good,

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Speaker 14: very good person.

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Speaker 3: Cool story, Gary, Thank you appreciate it, Gary, and I

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Speaker 3: would agree with all of that. Yeah, he touched a

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Speaker 3: lot of people with a group, the Bills sent a

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Speaker 3: large contingent of executives and staff workers down to Greenville,

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Speaker 3: Mississippi for his funeral, and then me and a bunch

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Speaker 3: of our former teammates also of course went down and

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Speaker 3: the stories about what he had done in his community

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Speaker 3: there in Mississippi were you know, we're multi fold. I

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Speaker 3: mean they ever went on and on and on and

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Speaker 3: on and on about things that he did that he

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Speaker 3: would tell him not to tell anybody about. Just make

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Speaker 3: a gesture, you know. So it was He's a pretty

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Speaker 3: special guy. So yeah, it was a nice It was

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Speaker 3: a nice ask by our contestant today and I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to remind people of what a great person

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Speaker 3: he was and and we were lucky to have him

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Speaker 3: on our team.

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Speaker 2: I'm guessing, and we already had to move on from Gary,

871
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: but I'm getting I wonder if he bought the football

872
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 2: or not. It was sitting there in an antique store.

873
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Does he have the football or I don't know. If

874
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 2: i'd have the heart to take it after that interaction

875
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: with the woman, I'd be like, keep the football, don't

876
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Speaker 2: load it.

877
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Speaker 1: I don't need it.

878
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 2: But he did get into the He's in the Mississippi

879
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 2: State Hall of Fame. I know that it's a pretty

880
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Speaker 2: cool deal. We are going to step aside and take

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Speaker 2: a break here because our number two is going to

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Speaker 2: begin with senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sell, who,

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Speaker 2: as we know, is also co host of ESPN's NFL

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Speaker 2: Matchup Show.

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00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: He is going to chop up Bill's patriots with us.

886
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: Let us know what's been ailing New England's offense and

887
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: how the Bills offense themselves can get off to a

888
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Speaker 2: quicker start.

889
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to Greg about that when we.

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00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: Return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Friday can mean

894
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Speaker 2: only one thing. Senior news it from NFL Films and

895
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Speaker 2: also co host of the ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, It

896
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Speaker 2: is Greg co Sale joining us on the line and

897
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Speaker 2: Greg's segment every week is brought to you by Scott Lonyard,

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Speaker 2: an official commercial site work partner of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Greg, how are we doing this week?

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00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 13: Well? I'm doing okay. How are you guys doing? That

901
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 13: was kind of a a heavy sweat.

902
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,479
Speaker 2: Game the other night, you know, Oh yeah, Bills fans

903
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: chewed their fingernails down to the nub.

904
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 3: It was the most painful win I've sat through in

905
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: a long long time.

906
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 13: Yeah, that was I had no points at the half. God,

907
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 13: it was who knew what was going to happen in

908
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 13: the second half at that point, right, And that's.

909
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 3: The kind of the that's the theme of our show

910
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 3: this week. People are trying to figure out. First of all, Monday,

911
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: we called people called in and we were all trying

912
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 3: to fix it, right what trying to help them get

913
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: out of this this pension for slow start. Certainly they

914
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: couldn't catch up to the Jaguars in London, which because

915
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 3: of a slow start. Same thing this last week against

916
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 3: the Giants. Although the whole.

917
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 13: When people ask me those kinds of questions, I feel

918
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 13: like I never have a great answer, and I'm just

919
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 13: being honest. Do you guys have a great answer?

920
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 3: Play better?

921
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: Eh? That's his answer, Brownie.

922
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 13: You want to add to that.

923
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: Not really, I think it's largely.

924
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: I think it's largely an execution issue. Just kind of

925
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 2: looking back at the tape and stuff. There are instances

926
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Speaker 2: where you know, you have simple mental mistakes, whether it's

927
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis not putting the ball in his outside arm

928
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Speaker 2: and a fumble happens and it stays in the field

929
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: of play and it's a turnover. You know, you can

930
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: go all the way back to the Jacksonville game and

931
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Speaker 2: the two first two series. You know, Cook can't catch

932
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 2: a ball in the right flat where he has the

933
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Speaker 2: angle and can run for the first down, they're punting.

934
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Speaker 2: Next series, Dalton Kincaid catches it on third down, can't

935
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Speaker 2: get to the sticks. That's a one hundred and ninety

936
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Speaker 2: pound defensive back knock him out of bounds.

937
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Speaker 1: So to me, it largely execution.

938
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Speaker 13: You know, I think the way I always look at

939
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Speaker 13: these things, and they're not the only team that's you know,

940
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Speaker 13: I've been doing this in a long time as you

941
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Speaker 13: guys have, so we've seen these kinds of things before.

942
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Speaker 13: You know, obviously I've seen it with many teams in

943
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 13: the league. Your focus is more on the Bills. I

944
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 13: always feel like there's a macro reason and a micro reason.

945
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Speaker 13: You've hit a lot on the micro reasons, individual plays

946
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Speaker 13: that you can always point to. One of the things

947
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Speaker 13: that I think stands out to me watching the Bills offense.

948
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Speaker 13: And again this is where also the macro and the

949
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 13: micro do merge. But there have not been as many

950
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 13: explosive pass plays this year as there have been in

951
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 13: the past. And again, as I said, that's where the

952
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 13: macro and the micro merge because it's not as if

953
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 13: they never run intermediate or vertical routes, but for different reasons,

954
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 13: on different plays, those are not there. Those plays are

955
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 13: not being made down the field either because balls not

956
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 13: being thrown, coverage takes it away, maybe Josh Times gets

957
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 13: out of the pocket a little too quick. You know,

958
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 13: there's Steve as you know, having played, there's always ten reasons.

959
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 13: There's never one reason. Fans like there to be one reason,

960
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 13: but there's never one reason.

961
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 3: But is there one solution? Right? I mean that's the question.

962
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 3: Can they fix it by say, listen, can we protect better?

963
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,439
Speaker 3: Can we give them one more outlet? Can we run

964
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 3: the ball a little better? Can we do? And you know,

965
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 3: certainly Brownie and I have sat here and you know,

966
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Speaker 3: you go back and look at the old twenty two

967
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: and maybe you can shed some light on this. There

968
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Speaker 3: seems to be enough options open on these passing routes

969
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 3: that they could stay on the field more consistently than

970
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Speaker 3: they've been able to in the beginning of these two

971
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Speaker 3: last two games.

972
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Speaker 13: Yeah, you know, I mean again, now you get into

973
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 13: individual plays, and ultimately that's that's what happens with, you know,

974
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 13: plays that are there or that seem to be there

975
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Speaker 13: end up not being executed for any number of reasons.

976
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Speaker 13: I mean, and I'll give you a great example. There

977
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Speaker 13: was a second quarter play that was third and fourteen.

978
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 13: Alan had Davis on the deep curl beyond the sticks

979
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 13: versus an outside a leverage corner. Okay, but he left

980
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 13: the pocket to his right and then he made a

981
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 13: second reaction and complete throw to Diggs. Now, Alan never

982
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 13: looked to Davis, and that should have been the read

983
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 13: to me based on the movement of the safety. So

984
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 13: you end up with a third and fourteen that should

985
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 13: have been a twenty yard completion and it's a punt.

986
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 13: I mean. Then they run the ball really really well.

987
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 13: And then you get to a play that they loved.

988
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 13: Right after three Cook runs one of their staple plays,

989
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 13: that conventional bang play action with dig digs from the

990
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 13: reduced split running the condensed skinny. And you know, we've

991
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 13: seen them hit that play over and over, not only

992
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 13: in the field but in the red zone for touchdowns.

993
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 13: And Okaake from the backside just gets his hand on

994
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 13: the ball on a play that probably would have been

995
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 13: a twenty five or thirty yard game because there was

996
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 13: a ton of room for Diggs after he caught the ball.

997
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 13: So these are the micro plays, the plays that are

998
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 13: seemingly there that are not getting made. And you know,

999
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 13: these these are plays that that short circuit drives.

1000
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: Right, And we've seen that each of the last two weeks,

1001
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: because before before these last two games, the Bills had

1002
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: five three and outs all season through the first fright

1003
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 2: through the first four games, and I think they have seven.

1004
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 2: I think they have six or seven in the last

1005
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: two alone. Wanted to kind of bend your ear a

1006
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: little bit, Greg on Josh under center and Josh in

1007
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:43,240
Speaker 2: the shotgun. So let's compare the production if we could,

1008
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,279
Speaker 2: and why we think one has been more productive than

1009
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 2: the other.

1010
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 13: Per se, Well, let's just talk about play action under

1011
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 13: center as a general principle, which is true for any team,

1012
00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 13: but it's certainly true for the Bills. But it's it's

1013
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 13: just universal stuff. When you're under center, a number of

1014
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 13: things are different. Number One, depending on the kind of

1015
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 13: run you show, a couple of things happen. Number One,

1016
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 13: it takes longer for second level the play second level

1017
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 13: defenders to know whether it's run or pass, because it

1018
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 13: takes longer to get to the mesh point. Secondly, if

1019
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 13: you run some kind of outside zone ish look. Doesn't

1020
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 13: have to be hardcore outside zone, but something that has

1021
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 13: a little bit more of a path that's outside zone

1022
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,800
Speaker 13: is the defensive line. Their first step is horizontal, not vertical,

1023
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 13: toward the quarterback, so that slows the rush down. Play

1024
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 13: action under center also gives Josh the chance to get

1025
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 13: more depth in the pocket, which then gives him more

1026
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 13: time away from the rush. Normally, when you run play

1027
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 13: action under center, too, the reads are not as detailed,

1028
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,279
Speaker 13: so you focus less on reading defenses and coverages and

1029
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 13: more on focusing on the routes and where you want

1030
00:54:57,719 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 13: to throw the ball, so you get more depth. You

1031
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 13: you you're more defined in your reads, and you know,

1032
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:08,279
Speaker 13: those are all good things, you know. Play action from

1033
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 13: the shotgun is very quick, it's almost like flash fakes.

1034
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:15,399
Speaker 13: It doesn't have a major impact on the defense, and

1035
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 13: the depth you know, the drop back is totally different.

1036
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 13: So I personally am a big believer, just from years

1037
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 13: of film study in an under center play action. I

1038
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 13: think it's a more effective way to run play action.

1039
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, and how important is it to actually be able

1040
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 3: to run the football out of that or does that

1041
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,879
Speaker 3: really matters you? Under center?

1042
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 13: That's always been a big question, Steven, and one can

1043
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 13: make the argument that you do not have to be

1044
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 13: a great running team to execute under center play action

1045
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 13: effectively because defensive players are not necessarily conscious of how

1046
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 13: many carries or how many yards you're getting running the ball. Now,

1047
00:55:55,360 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 13: obviously if you're running it well, then clearly defensive play

1048
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 13: because they want to be physical, they want to hit.

1049
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 13: They think in terms of, hey, we got to buck

1050
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 13: up and now we got to stop the run. So

1051
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 13: there's no question there's that element to it. But they

1052
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 13: still play their keys and they still react. So you

1053
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 13: don't have to be a great running team. I mean

1054
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 13: I used to hear you know, years ago, and not

1055
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 13: to bring up bad memories for you, Steve, but like

1056
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 13: the Cowboys with Aikman and Smith, people would say, well,

1057
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 13: they got to come out and run the ball to

1058
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 13: establish the run. No they don't. Their runs established just

1059
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 13: by who they were. They didn't have to come out

1060
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 13: and run the ball, you know. Defenses are our game

1061
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 13: planning to stop the run, you know. So it's it's

1062
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 13: always been a debatable point. I fall on the side

1063
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 13: that you don't have to have a great run game

1064
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 13: in order to execute under center play action.

1065
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 2: All right, So Greg, in this matchup, after seeing how

1066
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 2: inordinately targeted Diggs was in the last game, yes, I

1067
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 2: think it was targeted like twelve times in the first half,

1068
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 2: and it was like one or two targets for everybody else.

1069
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 2: At most there's only two or three other players on

1070
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 2: the halftime stat board, and that continued to a certain

1071
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: extent in the second half. Knowing how Belichick's defenses are

1072
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 2: usually good at taking away your number one option, what

1073
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: are you anticipating from New England? Knowing full well, in

1074
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: the last six games, Diggs has had i think four

1075
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 2: one hundred yard efforts against the Patriots and six touchdowns

1076
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: in six games.

1077
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 13: They know they've been very good against the Patriots, very good.

1078
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 13: So here's the question. With Kinkaid out this week, they

1079
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 13: had almost eighty percent of their offensive snaps in eleven personnel.

1080
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 13: You tend to believe that that's not going to happen

1081
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 13: because kincaid has been cleared correct, correct, So he's going

1082
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 13: to play so normally normally. And again with Bill Belichick,

1083
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 13: I know they're a bad team this year, you know,

1084
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 13: but there are still tendencies that he plays. He doesn't

1085
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 13: just do crazy stuff. Normally, when he plays against twelve personnel,

1086
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 13: you tend to see a lot of big nickel, meaning

1087
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 13: three safeties. So I would assume the Bills would go

1088
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 13: back to some meaningful, meaningful percentage of twelve personnel with

1089
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 13: Kinkaid back. Would you guys agree that that's likely to happen?

1090
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's to say, yeah, at least more

1091
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 3: twelve than they have run last time.

1092
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to be

1093
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 13: seventy percent twelve, but I would think they'd be, you know,

1094
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 13: forty percent give or take. You know, Pincaid's going to

1095
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 13: be on the field. So if they play big nickel,

1096
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 13: the question becomes, is he going to play zone out

1097
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 13: of that? Or is he going to play man out

1098
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 13: of that? And that's something we don't know the answer to.

1099
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 13: But I don't think and we see the same thing

1100
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 13: in Philadelphia or I'm closest to I don't think your

1101
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 13: past game can live on one guy. Now, that can

1102
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 13: happen for a couple of weeks. You know, can happen

1103
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 13: in given games, but guys, I don't think that can

1104
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 13: happen over the course of his season. I think you

1105
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 13: have to get other players involved, and that begs the question,

1106
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,919
Speaker 13: which again is a difficult answer, and I'm just being

1107
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 13: honest as to why it has not been the case,

1108
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 13: and I can't answer that. That would be a Ken

1109
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 13: Dorsey Josh Allen question or and maybe the quarterback coach,

1110
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 13: and I'm not sure who that is, but you know,

1111
00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 13: I think that's a question that needs you got to

1112
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 13: figure that out, because you know, Gabe Davis, he's now

1113
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 13: been there for five years and he has a couple

1114
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 13: of games every year where you go, oh my god,

1115
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 13: this guy's really a big time number two, and then

1116
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 13: he has a lot of other games where it doesn't

1117
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 13: seem like he's part of the offense. And this is

1118
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 13: no knock on Gabe Davis. It might have nothing to

1119
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 13: do with him, but you can't live like this every

1120
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 13: single week.

1121
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1122
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 13: Even Dawson Knox, to me, I think he's a pretty

1123
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 13: talented receiver. I mean, he's an he's athletic, you know.

1124
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 13: To me, these guys need to be more involved in

1125
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 13: the past game. It can't be Stefon Diggs. Stefon Diggs

1126
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 13: as good as Diggs is.

1127
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 3: So when we get into a game like this where

1128
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 3: a team's one and five, and they're you know, they're

1129
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 3: they're desperate for a win. But we're you know, we're

1130
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 3: watching some of their the All twenty two for their

1131
00:59:58,840 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 3: game against U.

1132
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 13: The Their offense is painful to watch, the.

1133
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 3: Right and their defense. The thing I noticed overall about

1134
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 3: their defense. You're not gonna convince me that Bill Belichick

1135
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 3: and the guys over there and that coaching staff have

1136
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: forgotten how to coach. But their defense seems and brann

1137
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: ere Tiger, it seems a little bit slow.

1138
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 1: They're slow.

1139
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: It seems like they're they can't, you know, they just

1140
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: can't keep up. Sometimes the Raid agree with that.

1141
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 13: I think they I think they are a slow defense

1142
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 13: that locks really good personnel and you can only camouflage

1143
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 13: that and compensate for that, you know, in so many ways.

1144
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 13: And because their offense, and again we can discuss that

1145
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 13: if you like. You know, there's a lot to say

1146
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 13: about their offense, but because they can't really score a lot,

1147
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 13: they can't they can't you know, make up for their defense.

1148
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 13: You know, it's one thing if you can score a

1149
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 13: lot of points and you figure, hey, we can win

1150
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 13: games thirty one to twenty four. They can't do that.

1151
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 13: So you know, they're really not a very talented team,

1152
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 13: which is an odd thing to say about the Patriots

1153
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 13: given what their history has been, but they're really not

1154
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 13: particularly talented on either side of the ball.

1155
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so the off and I realized that a lot

1156
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 2: of their offensive problems stem from their offensive line, which

1157
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,640
Speaker 2: has already had four different line combinations through the first

1158
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 2: six weeks, and they don't I would call Devonte Parker,

1159
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: if not elite, close to an elite physical talent, but.

1160
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: He has never had He has never had week to

1161
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: week consistency in his entire career. So you have that.

1162
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: On one hand, I think Kendrick Bourne is is their

1163
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 2: most reliable offensive weapon right now.

1164
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 13: I think that's probably fair, and he's probably I hate

1165
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 13: categorizing receivers, but he's probably a number three in a

1166
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 13: you know, a good offense. You know, there's a couple

1167
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,720
Speaker 13: of things we have not seen at all. First of all,

1168
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 13: you have to start with the quarterback. He's a certain

1169
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 13: kind of quarterback. I don't think you know, obviously, I'm

1170
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,439
Speaker 13: sure in New England they probably think they're done with him.

1171
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 13: But he's a certain kind of quarterback. And I hate

1172
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 13: to use these words, but people understand he's a complimentary player.

1173
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 13: He needs a run game, and they've been unable to

1174
01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 13: run the ball with any kind of meaningful production through

1175
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 13: six games. And they need the run game, both from

1176
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 13: a volume and production standpoint for their offense to have

1177
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 13: any chance to be successful. They only have eight rushes

1178
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 13: of ten plus yards, which is the second lowest in

1179
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 13: the league. And then on top of that, they've not

1180
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 13: shown any kind of meaningful intermediate or vertical passing game.

1181
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 13: Some of that's O line based. I think that it's

1182
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 13: been clear watching the tape that there have been sort

1183
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 13: of sync issues with Jones and the quarterbacks and the receivers.

1184
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 13: Excuse me, you know, and I don't think this is

1185
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 13: just my sense. Only Mac Jones can answer this question.

1186
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 13: I'm just trying to extrapolate, guys from watching the tape

1187
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 13: my senses. Jones does not have a lot of faith

1188
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 13: either in his protection or in his receiver's ability to

1189
01:02:57,720 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 13: win one on one. And it's really tough to play

1190
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 13: or back that way, and it's tough for a play caller.

1191
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 3: Should he have faith in it? And either one?

1192
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, that's a fair question, and the easy answer would

1193
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 13: probably be no. But Steve, you played in this league

1194
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 13: a long time. At some point, you know you still

1195
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 13: have to line up and play. I mean, you can't

1196
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 13: play scared, and you know, but you know, it's still

1197
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,479
Speaker 13: it's still human beings and it's still human nature and

1198
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 13: the old lion. I mean, they're starting two rookie guards,

1199
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 13: they're starting a free agent right tackle who had all

1200
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 13: kinds of problems last week with Max Crosby, and obviously

1201
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 13: Max Crosby is arguably one of the three or four

1202
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 13: best edge rushers in the league. But still, you know,

1203
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 13: at some point you've got to line up and try

1204
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,000
Speaker 13: to execute what you're asked to execute, not only Mac Jones, everybody,

1205
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 13: but it's it's been a problem. I mean, this is

1206
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 13: there's no two ways around it. This has been a

1207
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:55,160
Speaker 13: really difficult offense to watch. I mean, you know, obviously

1208
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 13: I've been watching it to some degree, maybe I missed

1209
01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 13: a game or two, but it's not been an easy

1210
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 13: offense to watch.

1211
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 2: All Right, So let's look at Buffalo's defense, which is

1212
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 2: still trying to come up with full time solutions for

1213
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 2: some of the all pro talent that they've lost. Dorian

1214
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 2: Williams makes his first start last week, greg and is

1215
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 2: once again noticeable, active all over the field. Ten tackles

1216
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,920
Speaker 2: on the night a quarterback hit on Tyrod when he

1217
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: chases him out in the flat on a scramble play,

1218
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 2: and him and Bernard they might be a little undersized,

1219
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,320
Speaker 2: but man that they get to the football in a hurry.

1220
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 13: Yeah. I you know, from the time they drafted him,

1221
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 13: as you guys, remember I told you I really liked

1222
01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 13: his college tape and this is the way in which

1223
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 13: he played, and by the way, he played this way

1224
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 13: all through training camp, and I know he got hurt,

1225
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 13: you know in the games that you know when he

1226
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 13: did play in the preseason games, this is what he

1227
01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 13: looked like. Guys, when you agree you noticed him in

1228
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 13: the preseason.

1229
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: He was the leading tackler in the preseason for the defense.

1230
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 13: Yeah, so again not being there every day and knowing

1231
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 13: what he can handle. Mentally, at this point, I don't

1232
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 13: know the answer to that. But the bottom line is

1233
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 13: is they've got two even though they might be a

1234
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 13: little undersize, they've got two fast flow linebackers and in

1235
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:14,240
Speaker 13: today's NFL that's a good thing. So you know, you

1236
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 13: have to figure both will continue to develop. Since they're

1237
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 13: young players. And obviously they're going to play this year

1238
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 13: because Milano is going to be out for the year.

1239
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,520
Speaker 13: So you know, I think that's a real positive. You know,

1240
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 13: I think they're still trying to figure out corner. You know,

1241
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 13: the last thing you want to have happened. And you

1242
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 13: guys are well aware of this. Okay, we saw it

1243
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 13: a little bit last week, even though the Giants only

1244
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 13: you know, put up nine. Is the last thing you

1245
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 13: want to have happened. You mentioned Devonte Parker with with

1246
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 13: sort of trying to figure out the corner position, it

1247
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 13: being a little bit of a work in progress, the

1248
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 13: last thing you want to give up our big explosive plays,

1249
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 13: and all of a sudden, you know you're playing great defense,

1250
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 13: and you give up two or three of those, and

1251
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 13: now all of a sudden, you know you're trailing seventeen

1252
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 13: thirteen in the fourth quarter and it feels like, oh

1253
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:00,440
Speaker 13: my god, where did this game go? Which is exactly

1254
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 13: what happened last week.

1255
01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 3: Right, And when you talk about these linebackers Bernard and Williams,

1256
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:12,240
Speaker 3: how critical thus far has the play of the defensive

1257
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 3: tackles in front of him, how much has that given

1258
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 3: them the ability not you know, not to have to

1259
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 3: step up and overcome that. The defensive line of the

1260
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 3: Bills has been playing really well. How well have they

1261
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 3: been playing.

1262
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 13: I would agree with that, and how much have they

1263
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 13: played well? But he's out this week, right, and he's

1264
01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 13: actually out.

1265
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 3: He's out.

1266
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 13: No, I mean they do have depth there. It's not

1267
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 13: as if they're putting in guys off this tree. They

1268
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 13: do have good depth. But he's played well, you know,

1269
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,880
Speaker 13: and I think they've gotten good play off the edge

1270
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 13: of this year. I mean, I've been very very impressed

1271
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 13: on tape with Leonard Floyd. He's played really really good

1272
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,760
Speaker 13: football and you know he's going to be up again

1273
01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 13: unless New England makes a change. I don't know their

1274
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 13: injury status, but unless they make a change, is it

1275
01:06:49,480 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 13: for Darien Lowe again at right tackle? As far as

1276
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 13: you guys.

1277
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 3: Know, No, no, I no, I don't think. I don't

1278
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 3: see any trade on the horizon.

1279
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 13: So you know, if it's low again at right tackle,

1280
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 13: then you're gonna have Floyd working against him. I mean,

1281
01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 13: you know, I think, Look, everybody thought last week, and

1282
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 13: that's why they play the games, guys. Everybody thought last

1283
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 13: week in Buffalo Bill's thirty one Giants ten would be

1284
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 13: what everybody thought it was going to be. It didn't

1285
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 13: work out that way. You know, this game's in New England,

1286
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 13: you know, and they know they have a short week afterwards,

1287
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 13: playing Thursday night. You know, this is a week where

1288
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,840
Speaker 13: you'd like to see them come out quick and fast

1289
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 13: and strong like they did numerous times a year ago.

1290
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 13: And all of a sudden in the second quarter it's

1291
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 13: twenty one to three, and not that you pack it

1292
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 13: up and go home at that point, but you feel

1293
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 13: like you've got a big cushion.

1294
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything that you can foresee that would make

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Speaker 2: the Patriots even.

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Speaker 1: Marginally more competitive.

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Speaker 2: On offense because it's even their run game, Greg, I

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Speaker 2: mean they're run I mean Ramandre Stevenson's production has fallen

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Speaker 2: off a cliff.

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Speaker 1: He's averaging three.

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Speaker 13: Cliff total cliff. They've not been able to run the ball, Brownie.

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Speaker 13: I mean, look, all we have is the first six games.

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Speaker 13: That's all we can address. But it's still NFL football. Okay,

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01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 13: we saw that on Sunday night. So let's say, all

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01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 13: of a sudden, Stevenson breaks off at thirty yarder, which

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Speaker 13: is capable of Let's say all of a sudden, because

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01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 13: we saw it last week with Slaton a couple of times.

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Speaker 13: Let's say, all of a sudden, Jones hits Parker for

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Speaker 13: a couple of forty yards. I mean, these things can happen,

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 13: you know, so it's easy to say they're bad. And

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Speaker 13: overall the tape suggests, you know, from like I said,

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Speaker 13: to use my phrasing from earlier, a macro perspective, this

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Speaker 13: is not a good offense. But you know, you know

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Speaker 13: how that goes in this league. A couple of plays

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01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 13: here and there, and suddenly it seems games can change,

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 13: and you know you can't let those plays happen, especially

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Speaker 13: since quite frankly, we're a little uncertain right now how

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01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 13: the Bills will come out offensively.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's kind of the way you see this.

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 3: You know, there's a ton of ways you can see

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01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 3: the Bills doing this, you know, running it, coming out,

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01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 3: jumping out to a fat start. You can see the

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01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 3: Bills winning this a number of ways. But if the

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Speaker 3: Patriots are going to win, it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: game like the Giants game or the Jets game. For

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01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 3: the Billboards eighteen to fifteen or twelve to nine or

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01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 3: fourteen to nine in the reverse like it was for

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Speaker 3: the Giants and the Bills, right, I mean, that's that's

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01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 3: the Patriots formula.

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01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 13: Yeah. I mean, look, it took Josh Allen making a

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01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 13: Josh Allen play on the Mars touchdown for them to

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01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 13: go ahead and win, and then we went down to

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01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 13: the final, you know. I mean, look, you don't want

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01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 13: to be in that situation. You don't want to be

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01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,200
Speaker 13: in a situation where it's a one score game in

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01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 13: the fourth quarter. And you know, again I spoke about

1338
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 13: some individual plays that weren't made in the first half.

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01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 13: I mean even Josh's interception. I mean he threw that

1340
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 13: ball too flat. I mean the middle was wide open.

1341
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,120
Speaker 13: If he just put a little firm touch on that

1342
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 13: instead of throwing a too flat god, Dawson Knox might

1343
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 13: still be running. He would have his head on the goalpost,

1344
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 13: you know. So it's little things like that that end

1345
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 13: up making games the way they were on Sunday night,

1346
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,840
Speaker 13: when in fact, you know, they should won that game.

1347
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 13: I'm sure they felt should have won that game going away.

1348
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 13: So it's you know, it always comes down to little

1349
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 13: plays like that that changed the way games get played

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01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 13: out over the course of four quarters.

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Speaker 2: Last one, real quick, greg The three games in which

1352
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 2: Buffalo's offense have sputtered have come against three four fronts

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01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 2: for the most part. And I know the Patriots play

1354
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: variations and sometimes it's a three, three, five and all

1355
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 2: that stuff. But again, here we are with what, in essence,

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes, is an underfront. What do

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,760
Speaker 2: you what do you think if you wanted to formulate

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01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: a theory as to what that front could throw at

1359
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,639
Speaker 2: Buffalo's offense to continue to have them sputter the way

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01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:49,000
Speaker 2: they have in previous three games against defenses with that look.

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01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 13: A lot of posts, snap movement, slants, things that that

1362
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 13: impact your blocking schemes. I thought the Giants didn't do

1363
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 13: a lot of that. I thought the most impressive element

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 13: to me of the game the other night was the

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 13: ability to run the ball inside against what would be

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Speaker 13: viewed as the strength of the Giants defensive line, Williams

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 13: and certainly Lawrence I guess, sexy dexy as he likes

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 13: to be called, but that's the strength of the Giants

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01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 13: d line, and they ran the ball between the tackles

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Speaker 13: with efficiency. So I think, particularly with a rookie right

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Speaker 13: guard and Torrance, who I thought played really well this

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Speaker 13: past week. You want to change the look post snap,

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 13: you want to slant, you want to send guys into gaps,

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01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 13: you know, second level players into gaps. You want to

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 13: do gap exchanges. All these kinds of things which change

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01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 13: how you block post snap. Those are the kinds of

1377
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 13: things I would expect to Bill Belichick defense to do.

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01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 13: You know, say what you want and you hit it

1379
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 13: right on the head. I think, Steve, you said it.

1380
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 13: You know, Belichick's not an idiot all of a sudden.

1381
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,720
Speaker 13: You know, he's He's going to have tactics that are

1382
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 13: geared to dealing with this offense in this run game.

1383
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,440
Speaker 13: But I would expect to see a lot of that Brownie.

1384
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 3: All right, Greg, thanks man, it's great talking to you again.

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Speaker 13: Now, I love you guys. Hope maybe we can talk

1386
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 13: about an explosive offense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be nice. Have a good weekend, all right,

1388
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: thank you? All right, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Co Sale senior producer from NFL Films joining us every

1390
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 2: Friday as he does to kind of chop up the

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Speaker 2: Bills and their future opponent. And yeah, I don't think

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,400
Speaker 2: the sample size is big enough to say, hey, these

1393
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 2: three four fronts are the major cause of the problem

1394
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 2: as to why Buffalo's offense is sputtering. I think it

1395
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 2: has more to do with the Bills than it does

1396
01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: with their opponent in the grand scheme of things. But

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Speaker 2: it does bear watching because here we are again this

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01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 2: week against you another underfront, and let's let's see if

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Speaker 2: they pose similar problems.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they are different. And for those of you don't know,

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01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 3: it's five. It's a five man front across with two

1402
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: linebackers rather than four men across and three linebackers. And

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01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 3: that's what the Bills play, the four to three And

1404
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 3: it's just more to think about for the offensive line,

1405
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,560
Speaker 3: and it's much more difficult to predict who's going to

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01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 3: rush the passer and who's going to drop out. Usually

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01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 3: they will only rush four still, Yeah, but you don't

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01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: know which four out of the five.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes they play it.

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01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 2: And actually I noticed this and we didn't even get

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01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 2: into this with with Cosell. They play a good amount

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01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,080
Speaker 2: of dime, Steve like, they play more. Not many teams

1413
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: play a lot of dime, they do.

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01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:15,840
Speaker 3: They play more dime than Nickel.

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, So which is you know, a little unusual and

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01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 2: something you have to adjust to, you know, and prepare for.

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01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,559
Speaker 2: We have to take a break here, but when we

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Speaker 2: come back, we'll dip back into the obl Friday fan

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01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 2: mail bag. We've got some other things in store for

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01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: you as well, including Tailgate Friday coming your way here

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Speaker 2: on one Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back.

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01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:56,400
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Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills. Get back in the game.

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Speaker 2: We know the big matchup this week Steve Stefan Diggs

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01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 2: with the cornerback for the Patriots who's just returned J C.

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: Jackson via trade.

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01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 2: Patriots fans were glad to see him back in a

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 2: Patriots uniform. But I don't know if he's happy to

1432
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,679
Speaker 2: see Stefan Diggs this week because over the last six games,

1433
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: so we're talking since twenty twenty, Stefan Diggs' stat lines

1434
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 2: are as follows. Six catches ninety two yards, nine catches

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01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five yards, three touchdowns, four catches

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01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: fifty one yards, seven for eighty five in a touch

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01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: seven for ninety one in a touch seven for one

1438
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: oh four and a touchdown. He is one of those

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 2: guys that, at least in his six games against the

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01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 2: Patriots seems Belichick proof. There are so many players over

1441
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: the years that have been completely taken out of the

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01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,759
Speaker 2: game plan by Bill Belichick and his defensive scheming.

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Speaker 3: Diggs is not one of the up No, Diggs is

1444
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,599
Speaker 3: shined against the Patriots. And it was funny too, because

1445
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 3: that the game that I really remember was the Monday

1446
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 3: night game is thirty eight to that's not eight or something.

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01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: The Belichick tablet throwing, that's right.

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: The phone the phone. The phone throw. One of the

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01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 3: most delicious moments of the last twenty five years in

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01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:20,160
Speaker 3: the NFL, indeed, and that was where and we got

1451
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: it kind of dawned on you and I at the

1452
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 3: same time. Diggs ain't Diggs wasn't here for any of

1453
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: that twenty year drought stuff. He just thinks the Patriots

1454
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: are another team and and bless his herd, he plays

1455
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,600
Speaker 3: like it. And they've tried to take him out of.

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 3: The one game they did kind of take him away

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01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 3: was the Isaiah McKenzie game. Yeah, I don't even know

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01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 3: if they took him away rather than just I was,

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01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 3: well he was. He was working against Dougger who can't run.

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01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Miles Bryant, and he just.

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Speaker 3: Outran those guys and Josh was just feeding him twelve

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Speaker 3: targets eleven catches.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, if you go back far enough, and

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Speaker 2: I do, with this series, like I remember Eric Bule's

1465
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 2: getting taken out of game plans by Belichick, you know

1466
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 2: where they could not get the ball to Moltz.

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01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 1: They just took him away.

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 2: And the Bills didn't have enough other answers to you know,

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,920
Speaker 2: overcome it. And for some reason, Diggs has been Belichick

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Speaker 2: proof to this point.

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Speaker 4: Knock on Wood.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully it continues on Sunday, but that is the matchup

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01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 2: we will have our eyes squarely focused on because J. C.

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01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 2: Jackson has not had good answers for Stefon Diggs in

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01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 2: the matchups that have taken place over the last few years.

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Speaker 3: And here's the I think, particularly given you know what

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Speaker 3: happened last week with in the first half, were had

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Speaker 3: twelve the eighteen targets available in the first half, maybe

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01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: if you're a guy like Belichick, you do it a

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01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: little differently than you've done it in the past, which

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01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 3: is kind of their modus operandi, right, So maybe they

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01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: put j. C. Jackson on. I'm thinking he's their best

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01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: cover guy. Plus he's got experience doing it and help

1484
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 3: every time. Maybe you just throw everything at Steph Diggs

1485
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 3: and say you're gonna beat us. Then Deontay Hardy or

1486
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,879
Speaker 3: gave there, somebody else is gonna beat us. Yeah, nobody else.

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Speaker 1: Usually been the approach.

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01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:01,719
Speaker 4: But right.

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Speaker 1: This defense is slow. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: One of the problems too for them is Josh because

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,920
Speaker 3: in games passing, you know, in the game of the

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01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 3: playoff game, the perfect game we call it. You know,

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01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:22,599
Speaker 3: Josh takes literally nine seconds, between nine and ten seconds

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01:17:22,680 --> 01:17:24,920
Speaker 3: to throw the football. He's running around back there, and

1495
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 3: this one is the first touchdown of the game to

1496
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 3: Dawson Knox, where he finally lobs it over everybody and

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01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 3: Dawson goes up and gets it. It took him nine seconds.

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 3: You can't cover that long. It's just, you know, nobody

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01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 3: can do it. And that's a problem that the Patriots

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01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 3: have yet to address because once they start to try

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01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 3: and keep Josh in the pocket, they struggle to cover

1502
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 3: guys up in the back end, and if Josh breaks contained,

1503
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 3: he snaps off a nineteen yard run or he throws

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 3: it over the top. So Josh is as big a

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01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,600
Speaker 3: problem for those guys as Steph Diggs is, and I

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01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 3: think they start there, but that's a that's a from

1507
01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 3: giving what they've done defensively, it's a big ass. It's

1508
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 3: a big ask for them to all of a sudden

1509
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 3: rise up and stop Josh Allen.

1510
01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:10,600
Speaker 1: So that is Collision course brought to you by Gabe's Collision.

1511
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 1: We spin it forward to Tailgate Friday.

1512
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 2: Which Steve is presented by high marked Blue Cross, Blue Shield,

1513
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 2: the official healthcare plan of.

1514
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills.

1515
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 2: And we've got a few submissions here this week, Steve.

1516
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: First one comes from Weikman, who says they're gonna be

1517
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: smoking some spatchcock chickens. You've got more of a farming

1518
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 2: background than I do. Do you know what kind of

1519
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 2: chicken that is?

1520
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Or is that a recipe? I'm gonna have to look

1521
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 1: it up real quick.

1522
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 3: I gotta say I do not.

1523
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: Okay, didn't know if it was a certain species of

1524
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,840
Speaker 1: Oh here it is. It came right up. Look at this.

1525
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 2: What is it is the most delicious and juicy chicken

1526
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,880
Speaker 2: you will ever taste. You'll never want to make roast

1527
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 2: chicken any other way. It's when a butcher, a chef,

1528
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,120
Speaker 2: or a pro home cook removes a chicken backbone so

1529
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: that it lays flat. Well, I'll be also known as butterfly.

1530
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 1: Okay, now, Steve, I'm gonna ask you a question. Is

1531
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: that showing off? It's a little showing off, spatch cock chicken.

1532
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,680
Speaker 1: You're showing off there? Just say you're butterflying.

1533
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna say it's not showing

1534
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 3: off in the context of this show. It's more like grandstanding.

1535
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough. I'll give it to wig Man.

1536
01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 2: All Right, you you butterfly that puppy and let us

1537
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 2: know how it turns out. Smoking a butterfly chicken. That's okay, Yeah,

1538
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 2: I'll have some of that uh jack with the following

1539
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:50,720
Speaker 2: Western omelets. My personal favorite on the omelet spectrum with

1540
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 2: Rye Toast pregame Rye Toast is underrated, homemade chicken, chili

1541
01:19:56,280 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 2: blanco and pretzels. During for postgame smoking an apple cide

1542
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 2: or pork loin with smoked gravy, mashed taters, stuffing in

1543
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 2: hot rolls, just deciding on the wood to use.

1544
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 1: Who's stopping buy Chris. I think I live around the

1545
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: corner from you. Oh, my dear lord.

1546
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, I'm not going to be in town, so that

1547
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 2: doesn't work for me, unfortunately. But pork loin is right

1548
01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: up Steve's alley.

1549
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 3: Because his favorite mashed potatoes and gravy or my thing.

1550
01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm all about it.

1551
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: There is something about a mash tater, you know, I

1552
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 2: don't know what it is. It's almost better than mashed potatoes.

1553
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 3: What's the difference.

1554
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: He's doing tater tots right? Oh is he doing I

1555
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: don't know, Maybe he's not.

1556
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:41,200
Speaker 3: I think it's mashed potatoes. I don't think it's mash

1557
01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: tater tots. It would have said I would mash I

1558
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 3: would mash up tots.

1559
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 1: Those are good.

1560
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 3: That's a good idea.

1561
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 4: You can't.

1562
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 1: You can't screw up a tato tot. It is literally.

1563
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. Last night I was at the

1564
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: at the hockey game and I was in a I

1565
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 3: got invited to a suite for a corporate gathering. Live

1566
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 3: in the high life, right, because you know what, they

1567
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,879
Speaker 3: had tater tots with honey.

1568
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,240
Speaker 1: Oh, level up?

1569
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a level up.

1570
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: Was a first for me, Oh, really, you've never done that.

1571
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 3: I've never done it. I'd never done it. Yeah, nice

1572
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 3: little desserty thing. Kind of you felt to me like.

1573
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 2: You could put an untold number of things on tater tots, Like,

1574
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 2: obviously you have the basics ketchup. You can do barbecue

1575
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 2: sauce with a tater tot, it still works.

1576
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 3: You could do cheese.

1577
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: You do melted cheese on a tater tot.

1578
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,880
Speaker 3: The bacon wrapped tato tots you can do.

1579
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it is a universal.

1580
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 3: Tater tot is a very, very very versative.

1581
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:43,920
Speaker 2: With you, Penny says, eating my feelings if we don't

1582
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:49,040
Speaker 2: step it up otherwise. French onion chip dip and pretzel

1583
01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 2: dipping sticks. That's the second person going with pretzels. How

1584
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,519
Speaker 2: do you feel chicken chili blanco with pretzels, not tortilla.

1585
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:58,759
Speaker 3: Chips chicken jilly chicken chili.

1586
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, I love pretzels, but if it's

1587
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 2: anything remotely in the stratosphere of something Mexican like chili

1588
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 2: or salsa or avocado dip, it's tortilla chips all the way.

1589
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:16,760
Speaker 8: For me.

1590
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,880
Speaker 1: It's not even a question.

1591
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 3: I've never been a big fan of white chili either.

1592
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, me neither. I'll eat it.

1593
01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it's nice. I've eaten it too,

1594
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 3: and there are some that is good. But I'm not No, Yeah,

1595
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 3: I'm more of a red chili chili guy.

1596
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:36,680
Speaker 1: But where do you come down on pretzel as it

1597
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:37,879
Speaker 1: not dipping items?

1598
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 3: I have never been a pretzel fan.

1599
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: I will tell you.

1600
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: The only place I will side with a pretzel and

1601
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: accept it as an as an acceptable dipping option is with.

1602
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: Sour cream and onion dip. It does go good with that.

1603
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: Oh that's what she's doing here.

1604
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: She's yeah, well she has French onion. Yes, that's where

1605
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 2: it is acceptable for me. Really, but even then, I

1606
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,240
Speaker 2: would take potato chip over pretzel.

1607
01:23:01,439 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 3: Really, French onion, the onion thing is the thing that

1608
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 3: sets the pretzel dip.

1609
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,600
Speaker 1: I think I can what I'm saying. Maybe I'm not

1610
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: phrasing this properly.

1611
01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: I can tolerate the pretzel as a dipping item with

1612
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 2: French onion dip. That's about the only place where it's

1613
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:22,759
Speaker 2: acceptable for me. Otherwise it's potato chip for a chip dip,

1614
01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:26,360
Speaker 2: and for anything remotely on the Mexican spectrum.

1615
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: It is a tortilla chip.

1616
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 3: Those of you who don't know, Brownie is a tortilla

1617
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:31,879
Speaker 3: chip machine.

1618
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 1: I am an addict, that is what I am. And

1619
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: the first step in addiction is admitting your problem. And

1620
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 1: I have a nachio problem.

1621
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 3: Yes. The second the second step is trying, is convincing

1622
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: yourself you need to stop. And you have made that

1623
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: step yet.

1624
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,599
Speaker 1: No, there's no stopping me. I will say this.

1625
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: I did discover a new chip out there on the

1626
01:23:53,120 --> 01:24:00,360
Speaker 2: tortilla spectrum. They make chips now that are Salseevere Day flavored.

1627
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 3: Corn chips.

1628
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: No, no, tortilla chips.

1629
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: Tortilla chips.

1630
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:09,599
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they come from corn. Right, game changer because

1631
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: I am a big fan of Salsavere Day.

1632
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: If it's made properly, me too.

1633
01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:17,120
Speaker 2: Most people are red salsa people only, or Caeso people only.

1634
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,679
Speaker 2: I run the gamut, I'll try, I'll dip a tortilla

1635
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: chip in just about anything. Found a bag of Salsavere

1636
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: Day flavored tortilla chips and they are the real mcgilla

1637
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: and I was just like, wow, these are outstanding.

1638
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 3: Well there you go.

1639
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: It was a game changer for me.

1640
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I think on these weekends where it's

1641
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 3: an away game, particularly the one o'clock away games, you

1642
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 3: still get a ton of people doing it up big. Yeah,

1643
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 3: especially while the.

1644
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,680
Speaker 2: Weather's still nice and you can have people outside on

1645
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 2: your back patio and I get a little fire pit going.

1646
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: I still think I people still do it up big,

1647
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 3: And although you know, the stadium has its own atmosphere

1648
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 3: and people show up and they do it when it's

1649
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,439
Speaker 3: an away game that it doesn't change. You just scattered

1650
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 3: throughout the region.

1651
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 4: That's right.

1652
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 3: People still do it. It's amazing.

1653
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,920
Speaker 2: So get your apron on and get cooking this weekend.

1654
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,600
Speaker 2: Some good submissions there on Tailgate Friday. Let's squeeze in

1655
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:22,200
Speaker 2: a phone call here real quick and we go to

1656
01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: Mark and West Seneca. What do you got for us?

1657
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:24,120
Speaker 3: Mark?

1658
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 15: Good afternoon, gentlemen. I was so frustrated after the game

1659
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 15: on Sunday that I just turned everything off on Monday,

1660
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 15: didn't listen to anything anywhere, and stayed away from calling

1661
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,920
Speaker 15: you guys all week. But I just wanted to call

1662
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 15: in today because I had heard a sound boye quote

1663
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 15: I don't remember who the player was on one of

1664
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,839
Speaker 15: the morning shows from the Giants that the Giants defensive

1665
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 15: back said what we saw on tape is exactly what

1666
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 15: the Bills did, exactly what they ran and nothing changed.

1667
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 15: And that's a telling comment. I don't mean to overreact

1668
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 15: to it, because I know teams run certain plays over

1669
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 15: and over, they get good at them, they trust them,

1670
01:26:07,600 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 15: and that's what they do. But to me, where the

1671
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 15: great offensive teams separate themselves, it's inevitable that through two, three,

1672
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 15: four times a game they're going to run a play

1673
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 15: where they're going to scheme up something that the other

1674
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 15: team hasn't seen or isn't expecting, and that's what they

1675
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:30,600
Speaker 15: separate themselves. And to me, underdoors, we haven't been doing that.

1676
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 15: The season seems to be starting to play out exactly

1677
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 15: like last year's Dif you asked me, last year, we

1678
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 15: came out of the gate game busters, doors looked great,

1679
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 15: everything was clicking. But as teams got film on us,

1680
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 15: we steadily struggled and we steadily went downhill like we

1681
01:26:45,400 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 15: were on skis until we got to the end of

1682
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 15: the season. And during that period of time, the same

1683
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 15: thing happened last year that seems to be happening now.

1684
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:56,640
Speaker 15: Certain players were disappearing from the offense, either game to

1685
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 15: game or certainly in games, and we were relegating ourselves

1686
01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 15: the two three players maybe at most offensively and not

1687
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 15: spreading the ball around consistently. And I know that can't

1688
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:11,040
Speaker 15: totally be born blamed on Dorsey. Who knows what Josh

1689
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 15: is actually doing out there, what the play call is.

1690
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 15: We're just fans watching. But unless they get away from this,

1691
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:19,679
Speaker 15: we're going to be going down that same road again.

1692
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,880
Speaker 15: And it really scares me that I see Sherfield doesn't

1693
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 15: seem to be involved in the offense hard He's not

1694
01:27:26,160 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 15: involved again, Dawson Knox is not getting the balls thrown

1695
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 15: to him consistently, and I don't when you look at

1696
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,120
Speaker 15: an offense and a guy is tired of three or

1697
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,760
Speaker 15: four times, that's not being involved in the offense to

1698
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 15: me needs to be spread out more evenly. So I

1699
01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:44,519
Speaker 15: just wanted curious to what you guys say think about

1700
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,520
Speaker 15: that one comment from the Giants in my comment.

1701
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And we don't have a lot of time here, Mark,

1702
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 2: We'll hit more of it on the other side.

1703
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 1: But I will say anybody.

1704
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:56,639
Speaker 2: Would welcome more diversification in any offense because it makes

1705
01:27:56,640 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 2: it more difficult to defend. I would also tell you

1706
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,599
Speaker 2: that Brian Dable knows this offense better than anybody because

1707
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,920
Speaker 2: he invented it, so preparing his defense was probably easier

1708
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: for him and his defensive staff than most other defensive

1709
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 2: staffs in the league just because of his well high

1710
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 2: rate of knowledge into what makes a tick.

1711
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,479
Speaker 3: And yeah, and there's also the idea too that he

1712
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 3: spent a couple of years with Ken Dorsey and knows

1713
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 3: how Ken Dorsey thinks as well, so he might have

1714
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,920
Speaker 3: had the ability to tip his defense, you know, Wink Martindale,

1715
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,360
Speaker 3: his defensive coordinator off to say, I think they will

1716
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: be thinking like this, so you might be able to

1717
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 3: try and stay a step ahead of them if you

1718
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,679
Speaker 3: know their thought process and how they're going to do things,

1719
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 3: just stay out in front of them with adjustments. So

1720
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 3: there is that, and you're right, it does look uncomfortably

1721
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,320
Speaker 3: familiar to what happened in the second half last year

1722
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,479
Speaker 3: when we became a heavy lift and you know, they

1723
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 3: didn't have those easy throws and stuff like that. We'll see.

1724
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 3: I don't want to jump to conclusions. I mean they've

1725
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 3: had more good games than bad ones so far this year,

1726
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 3: or at least the same amount. We'll see.

1727
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break, Steve and I close it up

1728
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 2: when we come back here on one Bill's Live.

1729
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 4: Stay tune all.

1730
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 2: Right, Welcome back time for Vision to Victory, presented by

1731
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 2: Adwall eye Care, the official eye care provider of the

1732
01:29:32,720 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill. Steve, I just think they should diversify the offense,

1733
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,040
Speaker 2: get more people involved, spread the ball around, and have

1734
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 2: patriots looking every which way but up.

1735
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:42,639
Speaker 3: I agree. I think you need to have at least

1736
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 3: six different receivers in your first drive to try and

1737
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 3: spread it around and put them on their heels.

1738
01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:51,320
Speaker 1: That is Vision to Victory. Let's hope for a victory.

1739
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 2: If so, we'll be talking about it on Monday, and

1740
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,040
Speaker 2: if not, we'll still be talking on Monday.

1741
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,000
Speaker 1: We'll see at noon.

1742
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 9: He