WEBVTT - SYSK Selects: Is there treasure on Oak Island? 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.680 M. Hey everybody, it's me Josh and for this week's 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.760 s Y s K Select, I've chosen the Oak Island Mystery. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:10.879 It's one we've gotten requests to do for a long time, 0:00:10.920 --> 0:00:13.640 and even after we did it, we've still gotten requests 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:15.640 to do it. So here it is again. It's a 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.959 good one from two thousand fifteen. And as an added bonus, 0:00:19.120 --> 0:00:22.000 keep an ear out for a surprise cameo by a 0:00:22.160 --> 0:00:25.479 Globo de la muerte before we knew what it was 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:36.680 called Enjoy. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from house 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:45.280 Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:00:45.320 --> 0:00:48.479 I'm Josh Clark. There's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:54.320 So this is stuff you should know. UD say, you're 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.240 no Scotia accent? Uh no, no, sir? Well was that 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.600 not just a howdy? It did some funny though. That 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:07.080 was my Heath Hall version. We've talked about. You love 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:09.640 that show, didn't you know? I never really watched it. 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:13.839 I don't. Thinking of my other podcast Ghost, I didn't 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.840 watch Haul much. Yeah, that's I did. I was from 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.920 the South though, you know Toledo. The you all thought 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:20.920 that was like yokol stuff. No, I mean like it 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:23.120 was on every once in a while. I just passed by, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:26.520 you know what wasn't Mini Pearl. She had the hat 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:31.319 with the price tag on. Still started and then there 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:37.679 was like some guy with the banjo. I think, I 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.399 think this is one of the most off requested shows 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.960 Oak Island. Yeah, I've had a lot heard. I didn't 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.320 really know much about it, but it seems like every 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.680 other week someone saying, Oaka Island, guys, do Oak Island. 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:53.320 We're gonna do Oka Island. We want everybody to be quiet, 0:01:53.560 --> 0:01:56.360 that's right, So that's what we're doing. Did you know 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.600 much about this ahead of time? No, not at all. 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.280 I did. It's one of those things like you hear 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.280 about and you hear a little more and you don't 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:07.440 really dig in. But so the whole thing is just 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:10.399 kind of this neat legend that's kind of out there. Yeah, 0:02:10.400 --> 0:02:12.000 I don't know how I missed it. And then once 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:16.680 you start digging in, you're like, yeah, I understand you 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:20.160 say that with the skeptical tone. Well, I think this 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:25.480 is one of those cases where there's no treasure. I 0:02:25.520 --> 0:02:27.960 don't know, there's some weirdness. There's some things that make 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.600 me say this is very odd. But I also understand 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:35.840 the skeptical point of view. So well, what I've just 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.240 kind of demonstrated is a little bit of the middle 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:41.480 of the road approach to Oak Island, which is unusual. 0:02:42.280 --> 0:02:47.440 Most people approach Oke Island either as true believe or 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:52.280 treasure hunters or total skeptics. Like, there's not a lot 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.280 of middle of the road. It's a divisive island as 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:56.600 far as islands go. It's only like a hundred and 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.200 something acres. It's not a big island. It's off the 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:01.880 coast of Novas Gootia a hundred forty acres. Yeah that's 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:05.320 not that's not big. Yeah, but for as small as 0:03:05.360 --> 0:03:10.480 it is, you know, it's pretty divisive. Yeah. I don't think. Uh, 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:13.680 I don't see what the big deal about being skeptical 0:03:13.720 --> 0:03:16.640 about the I mean, a buried treasure. I mean, who cares. Oh, 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.400 if you're a skeptic, you have to pooh pooh everything. Absolutely, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.200 anything that's even remotely frivolous has to be squashed. But 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:26.640 this isn't even like supernatural or anything. It's just I mean, 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:30.160 I guess there's the curse thing. Yeah, that's that's all. 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.440 That's all TV. That's not even lower from what I 0:03:32.520 --> 0:03:36.680 understand that new it's like literally just a media creation, 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:39.760 like strictly from the TV show that before that. I mean, 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.800 like people didn't really see it as a curse. There's 0:03:42.840 --> 0:03:45.760 just buried treasure on Oak Island. Yeah, and if it's 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.920 the eighteen hundreds and you're digging for things, there's a 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:52.360 good chance he might die. Yeah, it's dangerous, it is mean, 0:03:52.400 --> 0:03:55.480 it's cursed. I read this really great article written in 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.360 nineteen sixty five by Mildred rest All, Yeah, from the 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.680 New York Times. No, this was in like Ottawa magazine 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.160 and it was written by her. Yeah, I read one. 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.440 It might have been the same one. I wonder it 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.560 was like within a very short time of her husband 0:04:09.560 --> 0:04:12.600 and sun dying. I thought, wow, these ladies really composed. 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:15.160 But then I read a little further and found out 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.120 that Mildred rest All and her husband, Robert, who moved 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:21.760 their family to Oak Island so Robert could hunt for 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:26.480 the treasure in nineteen fifty nine. I think um started out. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:29.680 They met because they were both circus performers with nerves 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:35.080 of steel who rode motorcycles in a huge globe sphere. Well, 0:04:35.279 --> 0:04:38.039 he would go like upside down and she would go 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:40.719 side to side and they would miss each other hundreds 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.159 of times in an act. And now after that, I 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:47.840 was like, oh, yeah, this lady, she's tough as nails. Yeah, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.200 you never seen one of those acts. I just didn't 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:55.320 realize that that's what they did, got you, Yeah, and 0:04:55.400 --> 0:04:57.920 that it seems kind of odd to have that. I 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:02.360 thought it was a newer act from No, it's totally fifties. 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:06.280 Screams fifties really, Yeah, see I thought it screened seventies. 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.400 Oh it does too, Yeah, you're right, sure, Yeah, evil kine, 0:05:10.400 --> 0:05:14.479 Evil is why that screams that? All right, So let's 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.160 dive in here. Ah well, yeah, the rest dolls. When 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:19.039 they moved to nineteen fifty nine, they were hardly the 0:05:19.040 --> 0:05:22.960 first people that moved to Oak Island and set up 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:27.520 residents there in order to find the treasure. But prior 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:33.400 to seventeen um, Oak Island was just another island. Yeah, 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.800 it's still just another island. Well, just because of all 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.720 of the attention that's been paid to it. It's not 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:44.320 it's no longer. It's been changed forever. Prior to sev though, 0:05:44.400 --> 0:05:47.680 it was just like whatever, there's Oak Island until a 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:54.080 local kid from Nova Scotia named Robert McGinnis Daniel McGinnis sorry, um, 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:58.239 decided to go explore. Yeah, and this, Um, you won't 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:01.480 find any two people that agree on these uh legend stories, 0:06:02.440 --> 0:06:05.280 even with Daniel McKennis, because it's you know, none of 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:08.520 the stuff was really written down until much later. Nothing 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:13.200 was written down in seving was documented until like the 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:18.360 nineteen hundred well Sir Star Trek came along. Certainly things 0:06:18.360 --> 0:06:21.200 like this weren't documented, um because he was just a boy. 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.719 He was sixteen years old. Uh, he was on a 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:28.719 fishing expedition. And as the story goes, and we'll just 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:34.080 use the most commonly agreed upon story here, he was, Um, 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:35.760 he was just kind of traps around the island and 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:39.560 found uh, like a block from a pulley attached to 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.719 a tree, an oak tree, and then a big sort 0:06:42.760 --> 0:06:47.480 of cleared out area underneath it where it looked like, uh, 0:06:47.800 --> 0:06:51.840 you know, someone had maybe been digging and rebar ing something. Yeah, 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:55.000 there's like a depression under this block tackle block from 0:06:55.040 --> 0:06:56.840 a pulley. Yeah, it was just cleared out. And he 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:00.280 was like, huh but jennything, there's a pirates As you're 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.400 down there. Yeah, I mean, being a teenager, he was like, 0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.920 there's yeah, pirates all are are all over the place. Yeah, 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:12.480 and it's entirely possible. We're talking the eighteenth century. We're 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:16.120 talking a time when piracy was still very much in 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.160 the public imagination. Bury treasure was a hot thing. Yeah, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.640 I mean, there is such a thing. And at the 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.600 very least if no one, if no single pirate ever 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:28.679 buried his treasure, there is a lot of rumor about 0:07:28.960 --> 0:07:32.320 buried treasure of pirates. I think it makes total sense. 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:34.600 You know that you can't carry that stuff around all 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.760 the time because you get robbed and looted. So you, 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:41.680 you know, bury that junk, come back for it later. Right, 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:44.160 make a weird, funny looking map that looks like a 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:48.040 sweaty pillow case, and um, put a big X in 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:51.520 the middle of it. So and then put that in 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.040 a coffee can and then bury that in your backyard. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:57.640 That's right, you got to bury twice because it's so nice. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.320 That's the pirates. Can you say it like a pirate? No, 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.840 I didn't not need he would do that. Um, all right, 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.560 So he starts digging. He's his interest is peaked. He 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.200 gets a couple of friends comes back the next day. Uh, 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:15.680 Anthony Vaughan and John Smith and um, it's a pseudonym, 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:20.640 you think. Uh. And so they start digging, reportedly go 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.520 down about ten feet and found a layer of like 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:26.600 a platform of oak logs. Yeah, which is you're not 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:29.120 supposed to find that when you dig into a hole 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.120 under a pulley. No, you're not supposed to it's no worthy. 0:08:32.160 --> 0:08:35.320 First they found a stone that they took to be 0:08:35.440 --> 0:08:37.440 man made, like two ft down, and then ten feet 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.800 down they found an oak platform, and then supposedly every 0:08:40.840 --> 0:08:45.960 ten feet after that, Uh, they kept finding these platforms. Um, 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.040 and we'll just go ahead and call this the money pit. 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.240 What's what everyone calls it? Yeah, this main location is 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.440 the money pit because just the first oak platform alone 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:58.760 says there's treasure buried here. That's right. Uh. So basically 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:02.800 they they got down as far as they could for 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:07.199 three teenage boys with picks and shovels, and said, uh, 0:09:07.480 --> 0:09:09.560 this this isn't We're not finding anything, and where we 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:11.840 need help? Basically, Yeah, we need to bring in some 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.240 old timey equipment. Yeah, Bigger tools, gets some old timey 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:19.680 funding and maybe get some old timey other people involved 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.959 and they did, but it took like nine years before 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:23.920 they came back I think yeah. And they filled it 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.720 back in because they didn't just want to leave a 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.280 big empty hole there. It's an obvious sign that there's 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:31.079 a treasure there. So, like you said, nine hours later, 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:34.280 they did come back, um with investors. Nine years later. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.560 What say ours? No? I said years. I will bet 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:43.480 you all the money on Oak Island that you said ours? Uh. 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.600 At any rate, it was nine years and they came 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:51.120 back and formed with some funding from the Onslow Company. Um, 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.120 and that'll be a common refrain here. Uh. And apparently 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:58.800 I did some writing on modern treasure hunting and it's 0:09:58.800 --> 0:10:01.600 all about the funding you. Oh, it's it's just like 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:06.480 any business. You. These dudes have boats and equipment, but 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:08.520 they're like, if you want a piece of this action, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.600 we need some dough out there and find the stuff. 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:16.040 It's like selling future contracts. Yeah, yeah, a potential treasure exactly. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.320 And it's not just treasure hunting that does that. Like 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:22.480 lots of archaeological expeditions are funded like that. If if 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:26.560 your local universities, like we got enough problems as it is, 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.600 we can't find your dig, you can go to private investors, 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.400 who ultimately it's still treasure hunting, it's just churched up 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:39.320 church Don called archaeological things. So they come back as 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:44.280 the on Slough Company and dig down deeper this time, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.880 and they did find some interesting things, notably h things 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.840 that shouldn't be there, like coconut fiber and charcoal and 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.800 putty and coconuts obviously not native to Nova Scotia. So 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.240 they're like, someone has put something down here. Well yeah, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:01.840 also at the time, um, coconut fiber was used as 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:05.760 a packing material though, so clearly somebody was using it 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:11.240 as as some sort of construction material. Wasn't accidentally dropped 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:16.760 there there? Yeah, that's right. Um, So a legend has 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.600 it they dug down until they hit ninety ft and 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.000 then found a flat stone with a coded inscription that 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.360 they could not make sense of. Uh. Since then, other 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:30.439 people have supposedly translated it to read forty ft below 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:35.880 two million pounds are buried. Um, there's no stone today, 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.960 there's no rubbing, there is no photograph. No, it's called 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.680 the famous Cipher Stone. Yeah, and it was supposedly lost 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:45.480 in like but yeah, there's no evidence. Yeah, and so 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:47.920 anything you run across like in a book or on 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:52.600 the web or something is conjecture. No, there's no document 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.520 of this cipher stone, but they do think that something 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.440 that accounts for the cipherstone did exist at point, but 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:03.680 no one knows for certain exactly what it said. And 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:06.719 if you're wondering two million pounds of what I assumed 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:10.360 that they made British currency, Yeah, that would be funny 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:12.960 though it was just like two million pounds of pirates 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:17.920 scat coconut husks. Uh. So they get down to about 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.640 close to a hundred feet and then go home for 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.520 the day and and drink rum, I would imagine, and 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:27.240 then come back and it's full of water. And they 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.280 tried to bail it out, but they were basically like, 0:12:29.679 --> 0:12:32.200 this is you know seven, well, I guess this point 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:34.679 it was the eighteen hundreds or eighteen hundreds, but we're 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.160 still screwed, right. So the Robert McGinnis and what was 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:41.000 the name of the company came back with a company 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:46.000 company what what you just described as the process that 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:48.880 people have followed in the troubles that people have run 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:53.120 into in the every every ever since. And we'll talk 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.400 about some of the following expeditions because mcguinness's troubles. Didn't 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:17.400 put anybody else off after this, Okay, so Chuck, something 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.559 really weird happened to the McGinnis expedition, the second one, 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.520 when he grew up became a man, came back with 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:27.600 the Onslow company and dug down became a man. They 0:13:27.640 --> 0:13:30.160 went to bed after drinking a bunch of them, like 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.600 you said, and then they woke up and the pit 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.600 had filled with water. And it's basically been filled with 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:40.920 water ever since. Yeah, which is a problem if you're 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.560 a treasure hunter. You want dry conditions as much as 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.520 possible to get to the treacher. Water is an impediment, um. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.959 And it became such an impediment that ultimately McGinnis and 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.720 on the Onslow company just kind of gave up. I 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:57.360 guess they ran out of funding, right, Yeah, which has 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.960 also been a refrain over the years. You can only 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:02.840 dig so long until the person eventually who's funding he says, 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:07.200 I'm gonna pull the plug. But years later, Um, a 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:12.960 question was raised about that flooding. People started to wonder 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:18.240 was that actually an engineered booby trap? Right? And that's 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:23.080 become a question among treasure hunters for centuries on. Yeah. 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:25.480 Of course the skeptics will say, no, it is just 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:29.080 uh seawater, because later they found out that it was 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:34.840 actually saltwater UH. And there are other similar underground water 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:38.480 tunnels on the island. So they're like, no, this is 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:41.560 just going on on this island. And and the believers 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.360 will say no, it was a booby trap set by 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.000 the pirates. But the believers in this case have a 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.160 kind of strange evidence UM to back up their ideas. 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:55.040 So in eighteen forty nine, after the mcguinnis expedition, the 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:59.480 second one left many years after UM, the Truro company, 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:02.080 which is and it's tough to say, they showed up 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:04.440 to the island to look for the money pit, and 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.600 they started digging again, right And when they started digging, 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.400 they ran into the same problem. There the shaft that 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.280 they dug filled with water. So they started to think, 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.760 we'll wait a minute, maybe this is purposeful at the 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.160 very least, maybe there's some sort of sea caves. And 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.160 if there's sea caves that are filling this thing up, 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:24.840 potentially we could stop up the sea caves and then 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.520 we can avoid the water problem and keep digging. So 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.120 they sent people from the expedition to look all over 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:34.960 the shoreline of the island and they found something really 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.560 astounding that, from what I understand still to this day, 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.960 is the one thing that confounds all skeptics when it 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:45.120 comes to Oak Island. They found what can really only 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:49.440 be described as a man made drainage system that basically 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:55.920 accepts the incoming tide and potentially funnels the tied to 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:01.240 the money pit. Yeah. So you know, they continue to 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:04.120 dig and drill because they were encouraged by finding like 0:16:04.240 --> 0:16:08.200 things they said were metal or maybe even gold on 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:12.800 the Augur's um and even more coconut husk. Yeah, so 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.920 they were like, there's something down there, but they, like 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:16.560 you said, it kept flooding and that this is when 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.360 they realized it was seawater and they noticed, hey, it's 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.320 actually filling up and and falling back down with along 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:27.000 with the tides. So that's when they built a temporary 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.280 Coffer dam to kind of see what was going on. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:33.040 And that's when they found this five finger drain and uh, 0:16:33.200 --> 0:16:36.800 which yeah, there's really no explanation that didn't just accidentally happen. No, 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.880 And what gives it away is it's um. It's a 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.480 hundred and forty five ft wide, and it's about the 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.440 height of high the difference between high tide and low tide, 0:16:46.840 --> 0:16:50.680 so it's clearly meant to funnel the tied into this drain. Yeah, 0:16:50.760 --> 0:16:53.720 there's five drains. They're obviously finger drains. Finger drains are 0:16:53.720 --> 0:16:57.400 like French drains basically, and they all connect into one 0:16:57.480 --> 0:17:00.800 larger drain. But the real dead giveaway was the appearance 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:04.560 again of coconut fiber. Coconut fiber was used to keep 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:09.640 the sand out of the stone drain um, and a 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.280 layer of coconut fiber on an island off of the 0:17:12.320 --> 0:17:17.399 coast of Nova Scotia suggests man's intervention. That's right, but 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:21.200 what that means who knows. Again, treasure seekers will say 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:25.120 that they put this to uh keep you from finding 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:28.000 that treasure. Right, it was evidence in favor of the 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.000 idea that the money pit is booby trapped. Yeah, and 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:34.040 I think skeptics will say that the I think there 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.000 was a theory that there was a lot of weird 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:41.080 freemason uh rituals going on, and maybe they buried some 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.840 stuff there and not treasure necessarily, but um, maybe they 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.960 built this drain to keep people from digging into their Yeah, 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.920 modern treasure hunters are like great, let me find whatever 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.879 the Mason's buried. Yeah, you know, even if it's not 0:17:54.960 --> 0:17:59.119 gold ingots could be like, you know, the Secrets of 0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.919 the Freemasons, or yeah, the Ark of the Covenant. Yeah right, 0:18:02.960 --> 0:18:04.960 they said that could be down there, or the Holy Grail. 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:07.439 You want to talk about some of the legends of 0:18:07.440 --> 0:18:11.879 what's down there as well? Okay, So, um, the the 0:18:11.880 --> 0:18:15.159 the predominant one that Robert McGinnis initially thought of was 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:17.639 that it was pirate treasure because he was a teenager 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:22.359 in the seventeen nineties, right. Um. Successive people have come 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:26.280 to see the money pit if it is sabotaged like 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:29.879 it is, and the the construction that went into it 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.440 is something that would have had to have been carried 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.919 out by a group more sophisticated and better funded and 0:18:33.960 --> 0:18:38.040 better organized than Captain Kidd's crew, more sober at the 0:18:38.119 --> 0:18:41.399 very least. Yeah, exactly. So one of the rumors of 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.320 what treasure is buried down there is that the Freemasons 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:49.879 buried something, or the Knights Templar buried something, because the 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.560 Knights Templar, you know, they were like the militant arm 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:59.600 of fundamental Christianity in like the the tenth century during 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:03.440 pilgrim images a k. The Crusades to the Middle East, right, Yeah, 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.680 so that means they got a lot of dough over 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.120 the years they accumulated great wealth, had a big um 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:12.840 falling out with the Catholic Church of course. Yes, supposedly 0:19:12.880 --> 0:19:16.400 they were found worshiping Baffa met the goat headed yeah, 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:21.359 breasted Satan and that that's sort of like the statue, right, 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.400 and it's exactly like the statue Oklahoma. Yeah, the one 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.840 that's being constructed by the Satanic Temple right now. Yeah, 0:19:27.920 --> 0:19:30.120 I put that on our Facebook page. It was very divisive. 0:19:30.320 --> 0:19:34.199 I can imagine, no surprise. Um, I thought it was 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.920 just a nice, cool looking piece of art. I mean, man, 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:42.400 it's pretty well done. Yeah, it looks look nice. Um. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.240 So yeah, so the Knights Templer has all this dough. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.280 They have a falling out with the Catholic Church for 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.520 obvious reasons that you just pointed out, and then they 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:52.639 buried their treasure, so I guess the Catholic Church wouldn't 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:54.800 get their hands on it, right. But among that treasures 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:59.720 supposedly is the Holy Grail, which is what um the 0:19:59.800 --> 0:20:02.120 night we're looking for in Monty Python and the Holy 0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:05.080 Grail and the Ark of the Covenant, which is what 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.640 Indiana Jones is looking for in Indiana Jones and and uh, 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.560 no raiders have lost ark um. And so some people 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.360 have said, this is where the Knights Templar buried their treasure, 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.240 this is where the Ark of the Covenant is. And 0:20:18.280 --> 0:20:21.120 then other people have said, whatever, the Knights Templar never 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:25.480 made it to Nova Scotia. But the Freemasons obviously took 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:29.960 over the secrets and protections of the Knights Templar. They're 0:20:30.000 --> 0:20:33.600 like the modern day Knights Templar society. And uh, they 0:20:33.720 --> 0:20:37.880 probably buried the arc and or the Holy Grail. Duh. Yeah. 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:40.520 And apparently a lot of um Masons have been on 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:44.359 these excavation teams over the years, which of course is 0:20:44.400 --> 0:20:48.600 evidence that they're looking for their their old stuff, right 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:52.320 or I mean, it also is entirely possible that there 0:20:52.400 --> 0:20:55.000 is a rumor among Masons that this is true. Whether 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:58.800 it's true or not, that could have gotten some Masonic 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:04.280 adventures to go. Look. You know, another theory um that's 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:08.240 been thrown out there is that um Marie Antoinette uh, 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.600 during the French Revolution said got all her jewelry together 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.439 and gave it to a woman and said flee, and 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:18.880 she fled to Nova Scotia, and then the French navy 0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:23.840 came along and constructed this elaborate system to bury her jewels. 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:28.639 There's another little, uh possible theory, and supposedly evidence that 0:21:28.680 --> 0:21:32.080 backs that up is that the woman who was given 0:21:32.119 --> 0:21:34.360 the jewels, who was entrusted with the jewels, was spotted 0:21:34.359 --> 0:21:37.720 in Nova Scotia some time after that. What was she 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:42.600 doing there burying jewels? Another unusual Nova Scotia link is 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.560 um that of Francis Bacon. Yeah, I like this one. 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:49.320 So remember Francis Bacon from the scientific Method. He was 0:21:49.359 --> 0:21:53.320 the guy that really first put that down in written form. 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:57.320 Brilliant man. Possibly Shakespeare. That's one of the theories is 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.359 that he was the real Shakespeare. And the idea is 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:05.200 that that he hid his manuscripts in the money pit 0:22:05.359 --> 0:22:08.600 on Oak Island. And that seems kind of far fetched, 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:13.600 but apparently Francis Bacon owned land in Nova Scotia. Yeah, 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:17.879 and um, he was a preserver of things in mercury 0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:24.160 and supposedly they found flasks of mercury on the island. Um. 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:26.959 I don't buy that one because I've always believed that 0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:31.040 Shakespeare was Shakespeare and not Francis Bacon or his sister 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.760 or in the other various uh crack pot theories about 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:39.560 who really wrote that stuff. I like Francis Bacon and Shakespeare, 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.199 you know, yeah, yeah, just the thought of it, or like, 0:22:43.320 --> 0:22:45.359 do you think the evidence is Uh, I don't know 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.600 about the evidence. I don't know enough about it, but 0:22:47.840 --> 0:22:49.320 I like the thought of it. He seems like a 0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.840 pretty cool dude. Uh. So some of the other um 0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:57.480 treasure hunters started flocking there in the mid to late 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:01.280 eighteen hundreds because that was just a big time for 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:04.880 treasure hunting. Yeah. Well, the California gold Rush was going 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:08.280 on in eighte This is why the forty Niners are 0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:12.360 called that. That's right, And uh, I think there's kind 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:15.320 of a treasure fever, yeah, going through the land. That's 0:23:15.320 --> 0:23:18.000 a good way to say it. So, um, the Eldorado 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:21.920 Company in eighteen sixty six went out there, and they 0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:23.919 there were various methods over the years to try and 0:23:23.960 --> 0:23:27.080 block off the flow of water. They tried digging shafts 0:23:27.080 --> 0:23:30.119 and tunnels, They tried to divert it, they tried to 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:34.480 intercept it um and basically all that ended up doing 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:40.920 was causing a nightmare for future expeditions, to the point 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.639 where people had had had a hard time even finding 0:23:43.640 --> 0:23:46.560 the original money bit to begin with. Right, A lot 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:50.680 of the um, A lot of the landmarks, I guess 0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:54.399 you'd call them, we're just utterly destroyed. Yeah, supposedly. In 0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:58.760 that article I read from um Mrs Restall, she said 0:23:58.800 --> 0:24:01.600