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Speaker 1: Oh School of Humans.

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Speaker 2: It was Halloween night, October thirty first, twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 2: twenty two year old Ayisha Jackson was getting ready to

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Speaker 2: go to a party. Ayisha was braiding her hair and

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Speaker 2: getting into costume while talking to her mother, Laquita Parker.

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Speaker 2: Aisha and her girlfriends were doing a purge theme that night,

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Speaker 2: so they had hockey masks and slash shirts with fake

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Speaker 2: blood on them. Aisha is small in stature, only five

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Speaker 2: foot two and one hundred and fifteen pounds, but her

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Speaker 2: family said she could fill and light up a room,

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Speaker 2: especially when she danced, which she loved to do. Aisha

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Speaker 2: had a happy life. She lived in Eldaredo, Arkansas, just

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Speaker 2: a short distance away from her mother, her fifteen year

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Speaker 2: lived on South Roslawn Avenue in Eldaredo, but because she

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Speaker 2: she was staying in her uncle's house. Her uncle, William

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Speaker 2: Parker Junior, is Laquita's brother. William and his wife, Shequila,

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Speaker 2: lived on the five hundred block of Stuart Avenue in Eldaredo,

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Speaker 2: which was just a few minutes away from Ayisha's house.

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Speaker 2: Ayisha had multiple cats and dogs at home, and she

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Speaker 2: took great care of all of her animals. Ayisha and

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Speaker 2: per day. So when Laquita did not hear from her

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Speaker 2: daughter at all on November first, by November second, she

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Speaker 2: was scared. So early that morning on November second, Liquita,

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Speaker 2: her boyfriend Freddie, and Ayisha's brother Jacques, jumped in their

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Speaker 2: car and headed to Ayisha's house on South Roselawn. When

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Speaker 2: was very wrong. Liquita went in and found her daughter's

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Speaker 2: stuff there, including her wallet and cell phone. One of

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Speaker 2: Ayisha's dogs was out running around, which was very unusual.

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Speaker 2: The place kind of looked like she had just stepped

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Speaker 2: out for a few minutes, but Aisha never came back home.

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Speaker 2: I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past five years of making

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Speaker 2: On that car ride over to Ayisha's apartment, jack Wu

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Speaker 2: said he was hoping that he would walk in and

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Speaker 2: just see his sister there, and that the reason they

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Speaker 2: hadn't heard from her was maybe just a prank by

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Speaker 2: his sister, or maybe a misunderstanding, maybe her phone had died.

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Speaker 2: As soon as Ayisha's brother walked in, he knew that

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Speaker 2: something was very wrong. He noticed that Ayisha's door was

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Speaker 3: My mother had already said that she had a bad feeling.

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Speaker 3: I never, you know, knew you know, too much of it.

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Speaker 3: And under my impression my sister is at home, I'm

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Speaker 3: I walked up the stairs, I was happy. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to see my sister. You know, we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: So when we when I walked up the stairs and

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Speaker 3: That I could see something was wrong, but I didn't

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Speaker 3: My sister did not like that. She had to twenty

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Speaker 2: Inside, Jacques said, the house looked like it had been ransacked,

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Speaker 2: but on closer inspection, some of Ayisha's family members believed

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Speaker 3: Picture of clean house. Right, you got a reclowner, You

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Speaker 3: And everything is clean. Nothing is on the floor. You

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 3: The bathroom and everything.

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Speaker 1: Everything is cleaned up and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: And you know how your sister is, especially when it

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Speaker 1: To your animals.

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Speaker 3: She's not going to beat her animals with two long

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Speaker 3: She either had somebody to be over there and check

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Speaker 3: this is not the way your sister would have left

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Speaker 4: Tasure, Her herds were on the table.

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Speaker 3: Her brother was on the table alone with her medicine.

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Speaker 3: So Dan, this is where it gives you a clear

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, something got.

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Speaker 3: To be wrong, because she's not just gonna leave her

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Speaker 2: Because Aisha was a young woman who had recently gotten

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Speaker 2: that he went over and talked with Ayisha's long term

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Speaker 2: has never been mentioned as a potential person of interest

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Speaker 2: in this case. Aisha had been on dates with a

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Speaker 2: She was being a normal twenty two year old young woman,

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Speaker 1: All of their exes.

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Speaker 2: But contrary to what's been reported in some of the

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Speaker 2: they say that her relationship with Samaji was not full

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Speaker 2: hung out a few times. On October twenty third, just

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Speaker 2: a week before Aha and went missing, someone broke into

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Speaker 2: Ayisha's house. Now, Ayisha's grandmother, Ernestine, told a local news

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Speaker 2: station that Ayisha and Samaji had recently ended things, and

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Speaker 2: she also told the reporter something else that was kind

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Speaker 2: not only that, Ernestine said, Aisha knew who these men were.

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Speaker 2: There were actually two incidents. So the first incident, according

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Speaker 1: Then the second time she came home.

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Speaker 2: Ernestine said that Aisha walked in the house, saw two

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Speaker 2: Apparently Aisha call the police. The two men fled the scene.

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Speaker 2: Ernestine said that Samaji was quote one of the guys

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Speaker 2: He explained this to us. She told us this ute. Now,

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Speaker 2: I should say that other members of Ayisha's family who

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Speaker 2: we will get to that in next week's episode. After

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Speaker 2: Liquita's brother William and his wife Shequila. When Aisha went missing,

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Speaker 2: the case made local news. And remember this was during COVID,

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Speaker 2: so a lot of people were stuck at home watching

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Speaker 2: involved with this case. Later on November second, after Ayisha's

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Speaker 1: They called the police immediately.

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Speaker 2: The police told Luquida that she had to wait forty

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Speaker 2: demand that they do it immediately. It's very important. Police

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Speaker 2: Ayisha is above legal age, but why would a young

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Speaker 2: leaving it unlocked. Ayisha's mother also pointed out that Ayisha

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Speaker 2: had medical conditions, medical conditions that meant that she needed

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Speaker 2: medication behind. But after a few days police did start

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Speaker 2: the search for Aisha. Captain Harwell the elder Ated Police

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Speaker 2: Department said police conducted multiple searches on foot, with drones

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Speaker 2: had cadaver dogs looking for Aisha on at least two

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Speaker 1: Weeks went by and there were no arrests.

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Speaker 2: Captain Harwell said the department had multiple items of evidence

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Speaker 2: that would require submission to the Arkansas State Crime Lab

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Speaker 2: for processing, which really does not tell us much and

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Speaker 2: we don't know what those items were or.

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Speaker 1: If they were given any kind of priority.

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Speaker 2: And we know that in the Arkansas State Crime Lab

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Speaker 2: if something is not a homicide, there have been serious

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Speaker 2: backlogs with evidence testing in the past. Of course, once

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Speaker 2: did get some false leads. The family got several tips,

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Speaker 2: including someone that told them Ayisha may be buried in

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Speaker 2: Exactly who these witness statements were made by and why

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Speaker 5: I didn't get involved until like September of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: And Joanna is a friend of Rena's. Together they started

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Speaker 2: When Rena started to research the case and saw the

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Speaker 5: We had a meeting and Lookquita came. She remembered me

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Speaker 4: So we knew something was wrong because I was just

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Speaker 5: I'm not an investigator, I'm not an attorney, I'm not anything.

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Speaker 5: well can you change it then? And that he says

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Speaker 2: So I want to make sure that Ayusha's family, her

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Speaker 2: On October thirty first, twenty twenty, between one and two pm,

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: Ayisha was staying with William and Shequila at their home.

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Speaker 2: My source tells me that there were some other family

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Speaker 2: so Liaquita and William and Shaquilla's kids went back to Liquita's.

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Speaker 2: Aisha got ready and got into her costume, the Purge

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Speaker 1: A couple of them had hockey masks on.

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Speaker 2: So I have a lot of questions about exactly what

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Speaker 2: we know this because someone took a picture of them there.

436
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Speaker 2: People have told me this could have been taken by William,

437
00:24:29,845 --> 00:24:31,965
Speaker 2: Ayisha's uncle, but we don't know for sure.

438
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Speaker 1: That's not confirmed.

439
00:24:33,765 --> 00:24:36,605
Speaker 2: Either way, though these women looked like they were having

440
00:24:36,645 --> 00:24:39,405
Speaker 2: a good time and ready for a fun night out.

441
00:24:39,725 --> 00:24:42,805
Speaker 2: The photo, by the way, was later posted on Ayisha's

442
00:24:42,805 --> 00:24:47,085
Speaker 2: aunt Shaquila's Facebook page. At around ten pm that night,

443
00:24:47,165 --> 00:24:49,525
Speaker 2: Ayisha's brother Jaiques facetimed her.

444
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Speaker 1: Now.

445
00:24:50,325 --> 00:24:54,525
Speaker 2: According to Rena, Aisha told Jaques during that phone conversation

446
00:24:54,645 --> 00:24:57,045
Speaker 2: that she was on her way to a Halloween party

447
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Speaker 2: at a bar called The Wheel in Camden, but that

448
00:25:01,005 --> 00:25:04,925
Speaker 2: again has not been confirmed. The bar has apparently claimed

449
00:25:04,965 --> 00:25:08,605
Speaker 2: they were on Halloween night. I have some questions about this.

450
00:25:08,725 --> 00:25:11,605
Speaker 2: Remember this is during COVID and a lot of unofficial

451
00:25:11,645 --> 00:25:15,765
Speaker 2: parties were taking place around town. One of Ayisha's friends

452
00:25:15,765 --> 00:25:17,525
Speaker 2: said that they did go there that night and that

453
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Speaker 2: they were dancing. Ayisha apparently wasn't really dancing with anyone specific.

454
00:25:23,485 --> 00:25:26,885
Speaker 2: They had a good time and the night wound down.

455
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Speaker 2: After going separate ways from her girlfriends, Ayisha headed back

456
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Speaker 2: to the five hundred block of Stuart Avenue, where William

457
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Speaker 2: and Shaquilla lived and where Ayisha had been staying. They

458
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Speaker 2: got there at around two to three am.

459
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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: One of Ayisha's girlfriends said that William and Shaquilla were

461
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Speaker 2: talking about a trip to Houston they were going to take.

462
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Speaker 2: Apparently they were going to Houston the next day, and

463
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Speaker 2: they asked this friend of Ayisha's to go with them.

464
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Speaker 2: She claims she said she didn't want to go, but

465
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Speaker 2: apparently Aisha may have wanted to go with them. Aisha

466
00:26:04,325 --> 00:26:07,645
Speaker 2: had previously asked her mom about going to Houston with

467
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Speaker 2: William and Shaquilla. Laqueta told Aisha she didn't need to

468
00:26:11,645 --> 00:26:14,725
Speaker 2: do that, that would basically be too much for her. Now,

469
00:26:14,725 --> 00:26:18,445
Speaker 2: supposedly they were taking this trip to move furniture. Apparently,

470
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Speaker 2: William and Shaquilla were moving out of an apartment in Houston.

471
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Speaker 2: They needed to get the furniture that was in the

472
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Speaker 2: apartment out of there and into a nearby storage unit.

473
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Speaker 2: This story in itself is a little strange to me

474
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Speaker 2: because a why would they go to move furniture in

475
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Speaker 2: the middle of the night, and b why would they

476
00:26:34,805 --> 00:26:37,525
Speaker 2: take a tiny girl to help them do it. So

477
00:26:37,685 --> 00:26:40,405
Speaker 2: now it's the next morning, November first, between six and

478
00:26:40,445 --> 00:26:45,565
Speaker 2: seven am, Liqueta calls Ayisha. Ayisha doesn't answer her cell phone,

479
00:26:45,645 --> 00:26:48,925
Speaker 2: so Liquita calls her brother, William. She asks William where

480
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Speaker 2: Aisha is. William tells Liquita that Ayisha is asleep. Laquita

481
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Speaker 2: tries to call Ayisha several more times throughout that day.

482
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Speaker 1: Ayisha never picked up.

483
00:27:00,365 --> 00:27:04,165
Speaker 2: This was highly unusual because Ayisha always picked up call

484
00:27:04,205 --> 00:27:07,525
Speaker 2: from her mom. At some point, Shaquilla came to pick

485
00:27:07,605 --> 00:27:10,205
Speaker 2: up her two sons, the ones who Liquita was babysitting

486
00:27:11,205 --> 00:27:14,685
Speaker 2: at that time. Liquita said she asked Shaquilla when she

487
00:27:14,885 --> 00:27:18,925
Speaker 2: last saw Ayisha. Shaquilla told her that she had dropped

488
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Speaker 2: her off at home the day before and had not

489
00:27:21,285 --> 00:27:25,125
Speaker 2: seen or heard from her since. Now this was a

490
00:27:25,205 --> 00:27:28,485
Speaker 2: red flag because, she says, when she talked to William,

491
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Speaker 2: he told her he dropped Ayisha off at home. Now

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00:27:32,965 --> 00:27:36,085
Speaker 2: she seemed to understand Shaquilla was saying she had dropped

493
00:27:36,085 --> 00:27:41,645
Speaker 2: Ayisha off. That day, Laqueta kept calling her daughter's phone.

494
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Speaker 2: She was blowing up Ayisha's phone, but the phone just

495
00:27:45,405 --> 00:27:50,205
Speaker 2: kept ringing out, and each time she called her brother William,

496
00:27:50,725 --> 00:27:54,405
Speaker 2: he tells Liquita, Ayisha's sleeping, or she's in the bathroom,

497
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Speaker 2: or her phone is dead. Liquita was never able to

498
00:27:57,685 --> 00:28:02,005
Speaker 2: connect with Ayisha that day. Finally, at around nine pm,

499
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Speaker 2: William answers the phone again, this time Hell's Aquita that

500
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Speaker 2: they have been back from Houston, Texas for a while,

501
00:28:09,125 --> 00:28:12,045
Speaker 2: and that he had dropped Ayisha off at home. He

502
00:28:12,205 --> 00:28:16,725
Speaker 2: meant the one she had recently rented on Roselin Avenue.

503
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Speaker 2: So I have questions about that again. First of all,

504
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Speaker 2: is it reasonable to believe that between three am and

505
00:28:24,845 --> 00:28:28,805
Speaker 2: nine pm the next night that William and Shaquilla and

506
00:28:28,925 --> 00:28:31,365
Speaker 2: Aisha had driven to Houston, which is about a five

507
00:28:31,405 --> 00:28:34,205
Speaker 2: to six hour drive and back and had time to

508
00:28:34,245 --> 00:28:38,525
Speaker 2: move furniture. I mean, I guess theoretically it's possible, but

509
00:28:38,645 --> 00:28:41,325
Speaker 2: even with no sleep, that is a stretch.

510
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Speaker 1: Also, again, why would they.

511
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Speaker 2: Be taking a five foot two young woman to help

512
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Speaker 2: move this furniture in the first place.

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Speaker 5: So to the public, everybody thought that she had done

514
00:28:53,365 --> 00:28:57,405
Speaker 5: to help her uncle moved furniture. A ninety pound twenty

515
00:28:57,445 --> 00:29:00,965
Speaker 5: two year old female went to go help move furniture.

516
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Speaker 2: Later on, it seems like William and shaquilleb said that

517
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Speaker 2: they had both dropped Ayisha off together. And I guess

518
00:29:10,805 --> 00:29:14,485
Speaker 2: it's possible that Liquita mis heard, but as a mother,

519
00:29:14,805 --> 00:29:17,605
Speaker 2: she had instinct with these things, and these discrepancies in

520
00:29:17,645 --> 00:29:19,805
Speaker 2: the beginning can be extremely crucial.

521
00:29:20,365 --> 00:29:24,445
Speaker 1: They need to be clarified now.

522
00:29:24,485 --> 00:29:28,205
Speaker 2: The police have stated publicly that Ayisha did go with

523
00:29:28,285 --> 00:29:30,765
Speaker 2: her family to Texas and that they have confirmed that.

524
00:29:31,485 --> 00:29:35,845
Speaker 2: Captain prim said quote started doing some background, found out

525
00:29:35,925 --> 00:29:37,685
Speaker 2: that she had gone to Texas, supposed to have been

526
00:29:37,725 --> 00:29:40,965
Speaker 2: with a family member. We confirmed she did go to

527
00:29:41,045 --> 00:29:45,485
Speaker 2: Texas end quote. But some of Ayisha's family members wonder

528
00:29:45,525 --> 00:29:48,285
Speaker 2: if that's true. They wonder if Ayisha ever made it

529
00:29:48,325 --> 00:29:53,685
Speaker 2: to Houston at all. Liquita has said that Captain Harwell

530
00:29:53,805 --> 00:29:56,965
Speaker 2: told her that he could not verify that Ayosha went

531
00:29:57,005 --> 00:30:00,485
Speaker 2: to Texas. Rina had a conversation with him in November

532
00:30:00,485 --> 00:30:03,405
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty two. He told her the same thing,

533
00:30:03,525 --> 00:30:06,845
Speaker 2: that police could not confirm that Ayisha had been to Texas.

534
00:30:07,445 --> 00:30:09,205
Speaker 2: I'm going to reach out to the police to see

535
00:30:09,205 --> 00:30:11,365
Speaker 2: if they have any comment on this timeline, and we're

536
00:30:11,365 --> 00:30:12,925
Speaker 2: going to go a lot more into.

537
00:30:12,765 --> 00:30:16,165
Speaker 1: Depth on this next week. Bottom line.

538
00:30:16,565 --> 00:30:20,765
Speaker 2: Many of Ayisha's family members wonder if she ever left Arkansas.

539
00:30:26,405 --> 00:30:29,725
Speaker 2: Ayisha's brother, Jacques has spoken out very publicly on his

540
00:30:29,765 --> 00:30:32,565
Speaker 2: sister's behalf. He has brought up a lot of things

541
00:30:32,605 --> 00:30:35,085
Speaker 2: he says he just does not understand about this investigation.

542
00:30:35,805 --> 00:30:39,965
Speaker 2: He has openly voiced his suspicion of Ayisha's aunt, Shaquilla

543
00:30:40,605 --> 00:30:44,845
Speaker 2: and her uncle William. Jacques said alarm bells started going

544
00:30:44,885 --> 00:30:47,365
Speaker 2: off for him the moment he pulled into his sister's

545
00:30:47,445 --> 00:30:52,325
Speaker 2: driveway on November two. Shaquilla was right behind them with

546
00:30:52,365 --> 00:30:56,445
Speaker 2: her stepdaughter in the car, and Jacques wondered, how did

547
00:30:56,485 --> 00:30:59,685
Speaker 2: she get there so fast? Did she already know that

548
00:30:59,765 --> 00:31:04,285
Speaker 2: something was wrong. Jacques later said that he believed that

549
00:31:04,405 --> 00:31:08,765
Speaker 2: his aunt had been very dramatic, maybe almost overly emotional,

550
00:31:10,365 --> 00:31:12,485
Speaker 2: and after the family went to the police and the

551
00:31:12,525 --> 00:31:16,085
Speaker 2: searches started, Jacques said he started to get more and

552
00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:22,325
Speaker 2: more suspicious, especially after Somaji was arrested and released. Eventually,

553
00:31:22,645 --> 00:31:27,045
Speaker 2: the relationship between Jacques, Shaquilla, and William got more and

554
00:31:27,125 --> 00:31:31,685
Speaker 2: more strained. So your suspicions about Shaquila and her husband happened,

555
00:31:31,765 --> 00:31:33,645
Speaker 2: was that because because the way they were acting, they

556
00:31:33,685 --> 00:31:35,445
Speaker 2: just weren't acting, you know.

557
00:31:36,725 --> 00:31:37,285
Speaker 3: In the middle.

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Speaker 5: You know, Chak the rockers time to contribute it. I

559
00:31:40,245 --> 00:31:41,965
Speaker 5: think that his job moved.

560
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Speaker 3: In the middle of an investigation, right, So why I mean,

561
00:31:45,925 --> 00:31:47,125
Speaker 3: why do I mean, why do that?

562
00:31:47,565 --> 00:31:52,885
Speaker 2: Why move? So they moved in the middle of it literally,

563
00:31:53,525 --> 00:31:54,605
Speaker 2: they was in Houston.

564
00:31:54,645 --> 00:31:57,725
Speaker 3: They moved to Houston, and they was up there in Houston,

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00:31:58,245 --> 00:32:01,325
Speaker 3: and that's to verify and death factual. From what I

566
00:32:01,365 --> 00:32:04,005
Speaker 3: know is from when they was going up there to

567
00:32:04,125 --> 00:32:07,365
Speaker 3: view furniture. On the way up there, they already had

568
00:32:07,485 --> 00:32:11,045
Speaker 3: knew that no furniture was in that apartment. The furniture

569
00:32:11,125 --> 00:32:15,085
Speaker 3: was already stolen, so there was no furniture.

570
00:32:14,645 --> 00:32:15,485
Speaker 1: In that apartment.

571
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Speaker 3: So the trip to Houston was to go up there

572
00:32:18,445 --> 00:32:22,165
Speaker 3: to get the furniture out of the apartment and take

573
00:32:22,165 --> 00:32:25,245
Speaker 3: it to a storage unit. Okay, they never had took note,

574
00:32:25,285 --> 00:32:27,765
Speaker 3: they never got your no furniture up there because there

575
00:32:27,845 --> 00:32:30,805
Speaker 3: was no furniture in the apartment and when the police asked,

576
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Speaker 3: they gave a fast location.

577
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Speaker 1: So for where they were supposedly living.

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Speaker 4: Great.

579
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Speaker 2: What Jacques was saying there was that his uncle and

580
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Speaker 2: Shaquilla allegedly gave police a fake address in Houston. If

581
00:32:44,845 --> 00:32:49,685
Speaker 2: that's true, how could that not raise red flags? Now, again,

582
00:32:49,965 --> 00:32:53,445
Speaker 2: this is something that Jacques claims. I don't know if

583
00:32:53,485 --> 00:32:57,885
Speaker 2: it's true. The police have never mentioned Shaquilla or William

584
00:32:58,245 --> 00:33:00,925
Speaker 2: as people of interest out all in this investigation. They

585
00:33:00,965 --> 00:33:04,165
Speaker 2: completely deny they had anything to do with Ayesha's disappearance.

586
00:33:04,805 --> 00:33:08,045
Speaker 2: Just want to make that clear. But again, I just

587
00:33:08,125 --> 00:33:12,365
Speaker 2: want to go back to the timeline. Did Ayisha actually

588
00:33:12,485 --> 00:33:15,645
Speaker 2: leave Arkansas and go to Houston? This is a crucial point,

589
00:33:15,725 --> 00:33:21,205
Speaker 2: something we need to figure out. So let's go back

590
00:33:21,245 --> 00:33:24,325
Speaker 2: for a minute and talk about Ayisha's phone. As we

591
00:33:24,405 --> 00:33:29,165
Speaker 2: said before, the phone was left at Ayisha's apartment, but shockingly,

592
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Speaker 2: the police did not immediately take it.

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Speaker 1: I really don't get this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Ayisha had called the police multiple times to

595
00:33:36,445 --> 00:33:39,205
Speaker 2: report break ins. She had been put on the patrol list,

596
00:33:39,445 --> 00:33:41,925
Speaker 2: so I really don't get why there was not immediate

597
00:33:42,005 --> 00:33:43,725
Speaker 2: alarm when her apartment.

598
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Speaker 1: Was found like that.

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Speaker 2: In the end, Jacques said, Shaquila took Ayisha's phone. Now,

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Speaker 2: according to Jaques, this was because Shaquilla apparently thought that

601
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Speaker 2: her son he might be able to figure out the password.

602
00:33:58,805 --> 00:34:02,405
Speaker 2: But Laquita said in the end her family members told

603
00:34:02,445 --> 00:34:04,725
Speaker 2: her they could not get into the phone, they couldn't

604
00:34:04,725 --> 00:34:08,085
Speaker 2: guess the password. Eventually the phone was given to police,

605
00:34:08,605 --> 00:34:13,245
Speaker 2: but that was several days after Ayisha went missing. I

606
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Speaker 2: have also heard rumors that Aisha sent text messages on

607
00:34:17,285 --> 00:34:20,165
Speaker 2: November tewod I wanted to get to the bottom of this.

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Speaker 2: Rena said that she had discussed this with Captain Harwell,

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Speaker 2: and apparently he told her that this came from one

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Speaker 2: of Ayisha's relatives supposedly receiving a text from Ayisha after

611
00:34:34,885 --> 00:34:38,565
Speaker 2: November second, and her grandmother potentially getting a FaceTime call,

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Speaker 2: and there were supposedly posts on Facebook related to this.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to track down those Facebook posts because figuring

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00:34:47,645 --> 00:34:50,845
Speaker 2: out when those calls took place and if anyone actually

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00:34:50,925 --> 00:34:54,645
Speaker 2: saw or heard Aisha would seem to be a crucial

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Speaker 2: piece of data we need to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Captain Harwell.

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Speaker 2: The Elderrated Police Department released a statement asking the public

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Speaker 2: to come forward with information. He said, quote, what we

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Speaker 2: need at this time is for people to come forward

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Speaker 2: and tell us what they know. People don't want to

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Speaker 2: get involved, people are scared of retaliation.

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Speaker 1: End quote.

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Speaker 2: I can understand part of this because, as we'll go

625
00:35:21,525 --> 00:35:24,045
Speaker 2: into in more detail next week, a lot of people

626
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Speaker 2: who are potentially connected to this case do.

627
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Speaker 1: Have criminal backgrounds.

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Speaker 2: But I just want everyone out there to think about

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Speaker 2: this mother, this brother, this family. Imagine if it were

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Speaker 2: your daughter who had vanished without a trace, and you

631
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Speaker 2: had no idea what happened. I know that you would

632
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Speaker 2: want someone to come forward. We need for someone to

633
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Speaker 2: come forward with information. Anyone with any information can call

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Speaker 2: the Elderrated Police Department at eight seven oh eight eight

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Speaker 2: one four eight one to oh. We are going to

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00:35:54,245 --> 00:35:57,445
Speaker 2: keep going on this case next week. First of all,

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Speaker 2: I want to find out if Ayisha ever actually left

638
00:36:00,765 --> 00:36:03,045
Speaker 2: Arkansas and made it to Houston, and if she did,

639
00:36:03,245 --> 00:36:06,565
Speaker 2: where's the proof of that. We also want to track

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00:36:06,645 --> 00:36:09,805
Speaker 2: down and try our best to answer the question of

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00:36:09,885 --> 00:36:14,645
Speaker 2: whether there were texts and or calls from Ayisha's phone

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00:36:15,205 --> 00:36:18,845
Speaker 2: made after October thirty. First, this could give us more

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00:36:18,845 --> 00:36:23,405
Speaker 2: information about where Ayisha was headed. Or if the conclusion

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00:36:23,485 --> 00:36:26,885
Speaker 2: leads us to believe Ayisha might have met with foul play,

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00:36:26,965 --> 00:36:29,805
Speaker 2: then we need to be asking a different question. If

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00:36:29,925 --> 00:36:34,285
Speaker 2: Aisha was not alive after October thirty, first, who sent

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Speaker 2: those text messages from her phone?

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Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Townsend.

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Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone Murder Line

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Speaker 2: is a production of School of Humans and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced

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