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What makes football and just 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: pro sports in general such a unique billion dollar industry 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: is all the assets are people, right, I guess, beside 56 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: the stadiums, but the main assets one hundred million dollars 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: two hundred million dollars assets are players and are individ 58 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: our human beings. So I get it. It makes it 59 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: emotional for those people, but I don't understand how the 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: people that cover the league, and the former player, especially 61 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: older guys in their late thirties early forties that have 62 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: been through the ringer in the league, get so emotional 63 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: about it because this is not just a business. It's 64 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: a massive business. And when you make big business decisions, 65 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: you know, like you could argue, take the emotion out 66 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: of it. Easy for you to say, easy to say 67 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: on the outside. Well, the teams do it, at least 68 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: the well run teams. What did Bill Belichick get credit 69 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: for for so long? And I'm not even talking specifically 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: about Lamar Jackson, but anytime that you deal with a contract, 71 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: a big contract, and in football that means a lot 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: of guaranteed money, you have to be somewhat emotionless because 73 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: this is the business you're in. It's about balancing that 74 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: money on a thing call a salary cap. You could 75 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: look at it much differently if football was baseball and 76 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: there was no cap, even though in a weird way 77 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: there is because of this of the tax that they 78 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: have in baseball and even basketball, which is a soft cap, 79 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: has a massive tax. I see it with the Warriors, 80 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,679 Speaker 1: who pay a lot of money in luxury tax because 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: they go over it. Football it's hardcap and you have 82 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: to fit your roster under that's if you're listening to this, 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: you know that. But signing these massive deals are complicated. 84 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: And what I find the funniest part about this whole 85 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson situation and really the reaction to it, is 86 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: just last year, we all agree one of the dumbest, 87 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: stupidest contracts we've ever seen DeShawn Watson. Everyone wants people 88 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: to give Lamar Jackson more money than that, even though 89 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, who you could argue, even when he was 90 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: playing well, was probably slightly below Lamar. He had moments 91 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: where he was slightly above. That contract is atrocious. And 92 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: then another guy who, over the course of his career 93 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: is dramatically better than both super Bowl champion had been 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: to another who had been just a perennial pro bowler 95 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: every single year and until a finger injury, had never 96 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: missed games, was one of the most durable people in 97 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:58,559 Speaker 1: the league, and beside his questionable charity character was five star. 98 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: Everyone's laughing at Russell Wilson's contract, All these people in 99 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: the media, all the fans, all the former players, all 100 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: talking shit about both. Yet when it comes to Lamar, 101 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: like pay him his money. Well, yeah, that's hard to do. 102 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: When he wants two hundred and forty million dollars fully guaranteed, 103 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: you go, Well, the best player in recent memory, Patrick Mahomes, 104 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: got four hundred and fifty million dollars, Yet none of 105 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: that money remotely is guaranteed. It was like, I'm pretty 106 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: sure it was on one hundred and fifty million dollars. 107 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: And he's dramatically better than Lamar, dramatically better than Deshaun Watson, 108 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: dramatically better than Patrick Mahomes. But the Lamar Jackson situation 109 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: is difficult. It is complicated. Is he a premium player 110 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: when he's on the field. No one argues that. Is 111 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: he really good and worth a lot of money? Of 112 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: course he is, But these situations become complicated because you 113 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: have to pay them a lot of money and trade 114 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,919 Speaker 1: multiple picks. But here's the other thing. The amount of 115 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: lying that goes on during free agency and during the draft. 116 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: We all know, we talked about it for a long time. 117 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: It literally has we call it something specifically, it's called 118 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: lying season. Yeah, when this situation is happening, we know 119 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of people are lying. All these teams that 120 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: are already tapping out before they've even got involved. Everyone's like, 121 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: oh my god, how is this possible? Why do you 122 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: believe any of them? You know. One of the problems, 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: which just the amount of social media and we have 124 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: so many different channels to consume everything, is the teams 125 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: know this. And I think two industries, specifically sports teams 126 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: and politicians now use the media to just carry out 127 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: their lives. And I don't blame them because they don't 128 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: care that. All they care about is doing the best 129 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: for their individual business, whether you're the Ravens or whether 130 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: you're the Falcons, or whether you're the Carolina Panthers. And 131 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: everyone on the outside who's up in arms, it's like, guys, 132 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: can we just let this situation play out? Now? There 133 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: is a massive red flag And as someone in the 134 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: NFL brought it up to me, why would the Ravens 135 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: or why are they unsure about paying them? And last 136 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: year I've often said that the number was like one 137 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: sixty one seventy. I read somewhere today that it was 138 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty three million dollars guaranteed and two 139 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars total before the season started. 140 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: In the off season and Lamar turned it down. Now 141 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: essentially one hundred and thirty three million dollars and guaranteed 142 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: at signing with a guy like Lamar who used who 143 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: you have drafted more than likely. And you see this 144 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: with so many quarterbacks, you end up making much closer 145 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: to the two fifty than the guaranteed money because they're 146 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: not going to cut you in a couple of years. 147 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: Because of the way that they have to amortize your 148 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: contract over the cap. You end up playing it out 149 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: if you're just a solid player, let alone a Pro 150 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: Bowl level town. And Lamar Jackson declined them. And now 151 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: he finds himself in this situation after just playing twelve 152 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: games and having for his standards, a pretty poor season, 153 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: and then during that time during last season, we have 154 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: recent examples of several guys, many athletic quarterbacks, who are 155 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: all viewed as disastrous contracts, and they're all over the map. 156 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: Right Tyler's viewed that for now several reasons one character 157 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: slash he's injured. DeShawn viewed that as like, who would 158 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 1: pay that much money in trade for a guy who 159 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: hasn't played football in a long time, who's also dealing 160 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: with seven million massage therapists allegedly off the field, and 161 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson, no problems, no issues, But now it 162 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: looks to be declining. And they all got you know, 163 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: especially two of the three of them got traded for 164 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: a lot and then paid a bunch of money, and 165 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: it looks like utter disasters. So I don't blame teams 166 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: for questioning should I allocate two hundred million dollars for 167 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: someone with question marks? And right now Lamar's question marks 168 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: or health. He's played twelve games each of the last 169 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: two seasons. Do the math miss some games? That's an 170 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: immediate red flag. Durability is important at the quarterback position. 171 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: Here's the other situation. I am not pro or anti 172 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: agent now in my industry, I once upon a time 173 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: had an agent. I've never had one since because looking back, 174 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: I didn't need it. I could have this, negotiated the 175 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: deal on my own. But the amount of money, and 176 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: that was almost a decade ago. That was pennies on 177 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the dollar when we're talking one hundred thousand dollars, so 178 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 1: that is nowhere near comparable to Lamar Jackson situation. Now. 179 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: I think most people listening to this, especially if you're 180 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: my age in your thirties, maybe you're doing well in 181 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: your twenties, And it's definitely if you're older, have purchased 182 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: a home, and you've all dealt with real estate agents. 183 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: My position on a real estate agent has dramatically changed, 184 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: I would say over the last four or five year. 185 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm currently dating one, and I see what she goes through, 186 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: the work she puts in for her clients, And because 187 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: I used to think, like, why do you even need 188 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: any Why do I need a real estate agent? Well, 189 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: because the majority of people are not going to be 190 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: able to do everything you need to do to maximize 191 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: the value of your home, especially in a time like 192 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: we're currently sitting in, which is much more difficult to 193 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: sell a home. So their value you could argue three, four, 194 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: even two years ago, when times we're humming, we could 195 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: argue it. But when normal times, which we're currently in 196 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: and we're gonna be in for a while, their value 197 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: is really important. And especially like if I have a 198 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: condo for one hundred thousand dollars in some crappy area, 199 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: could I sell it on my own if I want 200 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: to allocate some time and resources to it. Probably, But 201 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: if I have a home or ten, fifteen, twenty million 202 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: dollars in some premium area in Malibu, in Troubadour in Tennessee, 203 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: in Jupiter, Florida. Probably want someone who knows what they're 204 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: doing to maximize the value because of the amount of 205 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: money we're talking about. So like Richard Sherman and Bobby 206 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: Wagner recently negotiated their own contracts, both guys well over thirty, 207 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: and both guys were on their third contract of their career, 208 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: so they had experience in negotiating contracts with an agent, 209 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: understood the landscape of it, and then did their own 210 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: research to be able to handle their third contract, which 211 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: was obviously less than the most money they had ever 212 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: made previously. So I respect that in their shoes, I 213 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: understand not having an agent, But if I was Lamar Jackson, 214 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: just like if I was any human being and I 215 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: was dealing with an astronomical amount of money in a 216 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: situation where I don't know the ins and outs of 217 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: contract negotiations. Charles Robinson of Yahoo wrote a fantastic article 218 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: on this. When you were dealing with what he's asking 219 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: for over two hundred million dollars in guaranteed to even 220 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: have those conversations is not with the coach and the 221 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: general manager. Obviously they play a role and they're going 222 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: to give their say on it. This is an owner decision. 223 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: So guys like Tom Condon and Drew Rosenhouse and the 224 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: top agents, you know what, they have a direct line 225 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: to every owner in the NFL. And I'm probably leaving 226 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: out other agents that are high level that have dealt 227 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: with owners for years, but those are the two that 228 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: come to my mind. And in this article he wrote like, 229 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: these are the type contracts that get done when sitting 230 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: with the owner on the yacht or at the country club. 231 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: This is an owner decision because we can argue it's archaic, 232 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: and it is. It's a rule when you sign these 233 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: guys the true guaranteed money you have to have within 234 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: two weeks at the point of signing. So several years ago, 235 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: when Matt Ryan signed for over one hundred million dollars 236 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: in true guarantees, Arthur Blank put that into an escrow 237 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: account immediately. So when you're talking about Lamar and that number, 238 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: even if you signed for two thirty, I think I 239 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: saw that the Deshaun Watson number was actually like one 240 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty. But the one hundred and eighty million 241 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: dollars has to be able to be put into escrow immediately. 242 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: We are talking historic amount of money for the NFL. 243 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: Here's a thing these media people and definitely these foreign 244 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: players like, oh, the owners just want to save money. No, 245 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: that's not the way it works. You see the salary 246 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: caps of all these teams. All these teams spend the money. 247 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: It's how do you want to allocate the money? Like 248 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: I said, this is a business, and in your salary cap, 249 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five million dollars is a pipe chart, 250 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and how we allocate that money over a two or 251 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: three or four year period, especially if we're a high 252 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: level organization like the Baltimore Ravens are or like some 253 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: of these other successful teams, are dictate whether we're going 254 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: to sustain success or not be successful. Think of the 255 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: most successful coach of the last twenty years, Bill Belichick. 256 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Now he had the benefit of Tom Brady taking less, 257 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: but he constantly made good economic decisions with getting rid 258 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: of a player too early before a year too late. 259 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: Now Andy Reid benefits now from having Patrick Mahomes, who 260 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: signed for a deal way less than what Lamar Jackson wants, 261 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: but they constantly do that too. Last year they got 262 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: rid of the Honey Badger. They just got rid of 263 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Frank Clark. Last year they traded Tyreek Hill. They have 264 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: made calculated risks, and that's all this is. We're taking 265 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: calculated risks when you sign humans because unlike most of 266 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: our businesses that you can put the revenue streams on 267 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: an Excel spreadsheet and be pretty numb to this, you're 268 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: dealing with people who at any moment in this sport 269 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: can get injured. I see a lot of people going 270 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: all the contracts should be purely guaranteed every penny. Why'd 271 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: say this? The NFL, by far is the healthiest business 272 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: of the three major sports in this country. Sorry hockey 273 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: year fourth and I like hockey, I've been watching a 274 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: little bit more. Is the NFL, with non guaranteed contracts, 275 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: leave these teams ability to constantly be fluid and constantly 276 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: be changing in a sport that just has the most injuries. 277 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: Is that the most fair to the players? No, But 278 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: is it the healthiest thing for the sport for us 279 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 1: as fans, for us that consume the league for ultimately 280 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: the help of the league. Because still these players are 281 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: getting paid historic amounts of money, and unlike the NBA, 282 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: for example, you pay fifty three players now. Obviously, not 283 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: all fifty three players make ten, fifteen, twenty million dollars 284 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: a league, but more players now than ever are making 285 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: ten plus million, are making fifteen plus million, are making 286 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: seven plus million, So more money is getting distributed out 287 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: than ever before. Still even with the fluidity of the 288 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: non guaranteed contracts, which obviously leads over time to turn over, 289 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,479 Speaker 1: which is the healthiest thing in this sport, because unlike basketball, 290 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: most guys are not just going to have a seventeen 291 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: year career where they don't get injured that much. That's 292 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: not the way it works. Beside quarterback. And then this 293 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: specific quarterback has been injured. But this goes back to 294 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: his mother is his agent. So the amount of money 295 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: that we're talking involves owners to get involved. Well, and 296 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: even let's just I don't know his mom, but let's 297 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: assume she's a high level woman. The chance is that 298 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: she has equipped to do this and handle this seems 299 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: extreme given that there are only a couple people that 300 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: are equipped that surrounding the NFL to use these type deals. 301 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: As Charles Robinson wrote in his article today, talking to 302 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: just different people around the league and agents, they're probably 303 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: less than eight agents. Who do you even feel good 304 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: about negotiating a contract of this status? So Lamar's at 305 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: a disadvantage just given the way he set himself up. 306 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: You should never, whether you're selling real estate, whether you're 307 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 1: selling a business, whether you're negotiating a contract, if you 308 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: aren't equipped to handle it. It behooves you to pay 309 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: someone a couple points, aka a couple percent to handle 310 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: a nine figure deal, because most of us will never 311 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: negotiate that much, even if we're a player. Hell, I 312 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:17,719 Speaker 1: know people that have sold businesses for fifty million, one 313 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars that get people involved, specific lawyers for 314 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: that specific industry because they negotiate the deals like I've 315 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: never done this before. And these are businessmen and they 316 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: need someone to negotiate either an acquisition or sale. That's 317 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: the way it works. And I feel like Lamar Jackson's 318 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: been at a disadvantage because of this situation. And I'm 319 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: not I would lean more to be anti agent, but 320 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: this situation has kind of jumped the shark. When we 321 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: start getting to the numbers and then like I said, 322 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: to begin with the numbers in which we originally start 323 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: talking about the Deshaun Wattson money, Kyler Murray contract. We 324 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: laugh at those contracts. So it's like, why doesn't Heed 325 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: deserve the money that these guys are getting paid aid 326 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: that are disasters? And then, last but not least, Lamar 327 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: Jackson is a good player. And this notion that these 328 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: teams put out these statements to these reporters and everyone 329 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: took it at gospel, like I said, was laughable. It's 330 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: lying season these conversations. A lot of these teams are interested, 331 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: and when I say interested, they're kicking the tires behind 332 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: the scenes. They're going how much would this cost? What 333 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: would we have to give up? Half the teams that 334 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: probably acknowledge that they were out, they're fucking lying. Do 335 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: we have to see this every single year? Well? How 336 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: do we fall for this over and over? I just 337 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: don't understand it. Now does that mean that they're going 338 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: to do it? I don't know, because giving multiple first 339 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 1: round picks whatever, I would always give multiple first round 340 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: picks for really good player. But if he won't sign 341 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 1: a contract for anything less than two hundred and thirty 342 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: million dollars, guaranteed. That's gonna complicate things. It's why I 343 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: don't blame the Ravens. Like how could the Ravens give 344 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: them the exclusive tag? Why they not? Okay, Lamar, you 345 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: think you're not worth what we're offering, you go get 346 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: a better offer. See what you can do. Like I said, 347 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 1: like everyone knows that this isn't fucking little league. There's 348 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 1: a billion dollar business. That's good business. You don't just 349 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: cut the check for the most amount of money possible 350 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: because you should because the public outcry, no, not if 351 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: you question is this the right move? It? Would he 352 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: actually get this on the open market. We'll get into 353 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones here in a second. Was that the right 354 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: thing to do? Of course not. But teams like the 355 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: Detroit Detroit Lions and Houston Texans would be not doing 356 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: their job if they aren't interested in this. Now the 357 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: number one thing, and I mentioned this earlier, why are 358 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens cool with punting on this? If they are, 359 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: because they've been outspoken about how they want Lamar Jackson 360 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: on their team. Now, if they actually trade him, was 361 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: it just simply, you know, because of the ledger and 362 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: because they wanted to get rid of the contract or 363 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: did they go, we don't think this guy can stay healthy, 364 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: or it's like, we don't think he's ever gonna be 365 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: as good as he once was. And you gotta try, 366 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: as you know, as hard as it might be to 367 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: gather some of that information internally in their building. But 368 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: if I'm the Lions and I got multiple first round picks, 369 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: when you have to trade two first round picks for 370 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: this non exclusive tack, it doesn't say what pick you 371 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: have to trade. The Lions can use their top ten 372 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: pick on whoever they want and trade their first round pick, 373 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 1: which was right, I think it's right at the end 374 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: of like seventeen eighteen nineteen. The Houston Texans, they are 375 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: loaded with picks. They have the Browns pick this year, 376 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: and next year they could use the second overall pick 377 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: on Will Anderson and trade their pick, and then next 378 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: year trade the Browns pick, you know, trade the Browns 379 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: pick both years, right, depending on whichever one's higher. So 380 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: that if you think these teams are not doing their 381 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: due diligence, are not putting together packages and figuring out 382 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,719 Speaker 1: the total cost, that then you're just as bad as 383 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: all the people screaming and bitching on Twitter. Now does 384 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: it actually go down. There are a lot of variables 385 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: to this. I would not be cool with paying him 386 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty plus million dollar contract. I don't 387 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: think that's good business. Now, if I get him for 388 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty million dollars, I would do that 389 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: in heartbeat, because that's what the top players have been getting. 390 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't care what Deshaun Watson got. That's the dumbest 391 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: contract you could argue in like the history of sports. 392 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: So this situation is not going to go away anytime soon. 393 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: But I think it's very disingenuous to compare well with 394 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is making this and Lamar Jackson tells you 395 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: all you need to know. Yet, Lamar Jackson would have 396 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: blown by him last year, but he told him no, 397 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: the Ravens would gladly probably give him one hundred and 398 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: forty hundred fifty million dollars. Right now, he won't accept 399 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: that money. 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And it's 434 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 1: not just any quarterback, a quarterback that they once drafted 435 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: in the top ten and it finally took till his 436 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: fourth year to become a really good player, really good 437 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: to be strong, a solid starter, and then their star 438 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: running back. Now, running backs are complicated, right because like 439 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. We make fun of long term contracts on 440 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: running backs. That's bad business. Why because it's very easy 441 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: to get good, cheap running backs in the draft and 442 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 1: paying running backs usually by their sixth seventh year. Beside, 443 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry, they get shittier, they get injured, a 444 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: lot of wear and tear. So they didn't want to 445 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 1: lose either guy. So the easiest move was, in their mind, 446 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: extend Daniel Jones and franchise Sakeuon Barkley. The problem is 447 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: they paid a fifty million premium to do that. Because 448 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones got eighty two million dollars essentially guaranteed. It's 449 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: like a two year eighty two million dollars. That's what 450 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: the contract is. To me. I never I don't care 451 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: about average per year. All that shit is fluff. Whatever 452 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: you're guaranteed money is dictates how long you are on 453 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: the team and how long your security on the team. 454 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: So when I give him eighty two million dollars essentially 455 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: like forty million dollars a year for a couple of years, 456 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and say quon who because he's a really good player, 457 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: they were they probably don't want to give a long 458 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: term deal to there have been some reports that they do, 459 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: but it's just you would pay him ten million dollars 460 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: a year on a yearly basis, no problem. The franchise 461 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 1: tag for Daniel Jones would have been thirty two million dollars. 462 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: Be can't franchise in both. So clearly they wanted to 463 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: get DJ done so they could franchise say Quan, and 464 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: get them both under the squad and then figure it 465 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: out moving forward. The problem on this if you would 466 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: have if you would have franchised say Quon Barkley at 467 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: ten million dollars and let Daniel Jones hit the open market, 468 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: is anyone giving him the contract the Giants just gave him. 469 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 1: Is anyone giving him eighty two million dollars guaranteed? Derek Carr, 470 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: who is coming off a rough year, has a career 471 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: resume that blows Daniel Jones out of the fucking water, 472 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: got seventy million dollars. So DJ got twelve million dollars 473 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: more in guarantees than Derek Carr. Derek Carr throws the 474 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 1: ball better than him. Now you could argue there's still 475 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: a lot of untapped potential. Whatever, I can't see anyone 476 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: given Daniel Jones weren't fifty sixty million dollars. Geno Smith, 477 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: who just had a dramatically better season than Daniel Jones, 478 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 1: got a little over fifty million dollars guaranteed. I think 479 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: that's more like his market. So this is the balance 480 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: of sometimes being unemotional with players. And I'm not even 481 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 1: necessarily blaming day Ball and Joe Shane because I think 482 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: they've proven to be really good. And one of the 483 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: reasons day Ball won the Coach of the Year obviously 484 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: they made the playoffs was because how average his roster was, 485 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,400 Speaker 1: how bad Daniel Jones had been, and then he took 486 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: that group of players sa Quan Healthy to the playoffs. 487 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 1: Is like, God, this guy can really get guys to overachieve. 488 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: If your coach could get guys to overachieve, that means 489 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 1: you can pick and choose who to pay, and to 490 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 1: meet Daniel Jones. It is much more of a replaceable 491 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: player than say Quon Barkley. But to pay and I 492 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: understand not wanting to give sa Quon Barkley like extend 493 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: him at thirty forty million dollars guaranteed and then franchise 494 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, but that is still cheaper than what they 495 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: did with Daniel Jones, who, let's face it, still needs 496 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: to prove he can do this more than one season. 497 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: And this is a classic, and Michael Lombardi and his 498 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: podcast is talked about it. I saw it when I 499 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: was on the Eagles. The Giants get very emotional about 500 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: their players, the ownership, guys that represent them well, guys 501 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: that just the New York market's very difficult. And these 502 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: two guys clearly are pretty impressive players, and they wanted 503 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: to keep them both. I don't blame them for wanting 504 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: to keep them both. I cannot give Daniel Jones, based 505 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: on one season, eighty two million dollars and guaranteed and 506 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: call myself a high level business a good operation. That's 507 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: just that's embarrassing, no way around it. 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One 530 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: thing I saw when John Gruden came back to the Raiders, 531 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: and this was always the knock on them with his 532 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: first stint with the Raiders and then with Tampa. I 533 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: think ironically because Al and they work together. Al Davis 534 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: had this. George Steinbrenner had this, Some executives or coaches 535 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: or owners can be very fickle and can be very 536 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: herky jerky, and can be can turn on people and 537 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: players fast. And I think part of being a good coach, 538 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: being a good executive, being good really in any industry, 539 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you got to have some patience, and sometimes you 540 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: have to And this goes back to the Lamar situation. 541 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: If you're having success, still be able to separate the 542 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: success and what's best for the long term health of 543 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: the business, or if this is a good decision, because 544 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: it's easy to make prudent decisions sometimes when you're struggling. 545 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: Sometimes you know you can look past it when you're 546 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: having success, and vice versa. Sometimes you make desperate decisions 547 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: when you're struggling, and they can all come back to 548 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: bite you in the ass. It's why when you see Belichick, 549 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, when you see I think Andy Reid's the 550 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: great example of this. Now there's a consistency to them. 551 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, it's not just patience, but it's just I'm 552 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: not trying to sprint every single day and listen. I 553 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: think sometimes when you're younger, we naturally can be a 554 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: little more impatient, And I think I know this personally speaking. 555 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: As I've aged, I've become more patients, become more patient. 556 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: I think a big part of that is perspective and 557 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: just understanding that not everything is the end of the world, 558 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: and not everything has to happen immediately, even in the 559 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: world we live in twenty twenty three. So when I 560 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: see that Michael Lombardi report that Matt Stafford can be traded, 561 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: I go, you know, there is a herky jerky nature 562 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to the Rams. It's it's not just 563 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: less sneat. You know, they are a Sean McVay operation. 564 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: Everything that happens with them, with their coaches and definitely 565 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: their roster he's signing off on. So when they get 566 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: rid of Jared Goff, when they signed Alan Robinson, when 567 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: they trade for Stafford, and then they extend them, these 568 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: are He's all behind this, given double thumbs up. So 569 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: a year later, after they win the Super Bowl and 570 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: they give this guy a massive extension for them to 571 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: be thinking about trading them, McVay already sour on the guy. 572 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: It's starting to feel like Sean McVeagh has some lebron 573 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 1: James tendencies. I think Sean McVay is an excellent football coach, 574 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: just like Lebron James, one of the greatest athletes of 575 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: my lifetime. But do any two humans sour on in 576 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: Lebron's case, teammates now he's also the pseudo general manager. 577 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: In Sean's case, his players faster than those two. That 578 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: one day they love you, one day they need you, 579 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: and the next day they can't wait to kick you 580 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: to the curve. It's pretty crazy. And listen, it's sports. 581 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: Some guys have bad games, some guys have bad seasons. 582 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: But just last year Sean McVay was pounding the table 583 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: for Alan Robinson. They gave him fifteen million dollars a year. 584 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: Now they can't wait to get rid of them. Sean. 585 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: You know Matt Stafford, here's the thing. Clearly he's got 586 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: some elbow issues right ye at him. Last year was 587 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: leading the league in interceptions. The entire league knows that 588 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: if you're listening to this on March tenth, in seven days, 589 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is guaranteed if he's on the roster, seven 590 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: million dollars. So you're basically giving him sixty million. Anyone 591 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: who trades for him, who has to give him sixty 592 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed. We just saw Matt Ryan, who obviously 593 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: is not as talented at this point in time in 594 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: his career, but just on the other end, making a 595 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: lot of money, and it was a disaster. I don't 596 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: think there's any team in the league with the concern 597 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: about his elbow that is trading for him at that 598 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: price point. But what led, what uncertainty has changed since 599 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: a year ago today, And Sean McVay has to find 600 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: a way to be a little more patient with his 601 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: operation because he just turns on these guys. It gets 602 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: out there and then you know, it just becomes an 603 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: enormous story and they're they're going to get to the 604 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: point where there's no turning back, you know. And I 605 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: commended him Like most people, it worked trading picks for players, 606 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsay, trading for Matt Staffordy, it worked. They constantly 607 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: had six But this constant, just like getting rid of 608 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: guys and souring on guys, is not a sustainable way 609 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: to operate, you just especially when you're paying them large 610 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: amounts of money, because sometimes you're gonna get stuck with 611 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: these players. And I think Sean McVay. One thing he 612 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: has to mature on as he gets older, if he 613 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: stays as a coach and doesn't leave to the broadcasting profession, 614 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: is to find a way to get a little more patient, 615 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: because right now, one thing stopped going well, which as 616 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: they did last year, this is not going to be 617 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,919 Speaker 1: a sustainable model. If I was a Jets fan right now, 618 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: I would be pretty excited because not only does all 619 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: signs point to us getting Aaron Rodgers, it feels like 620 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: we might not even need to give up our first 621 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: round pick to get him. And this gets back to 622 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 1: the Stafford thing. A huge variable in Aaron. If Aaron 623 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: Rodgers contract right now was twenty eight million dollars the 624 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: rate a ton of other teams would be involved. But 625 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: you're basically giving him sixty million dollars the moment you 626 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: trade for him, that's what you're gonna have to pay them. 627 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: It's a complicated situation, but because of his contract, it 628 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: makes him actually a little easier for them to acquire. 629 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: And I had recently a Colts fan shot me at 630 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: DM and he's like, do you think we should just 631 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: sit where we're at instead of trading up to get 632 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Because when you look at all the recent 633 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: history of teams that traded up to get quarterbacks, from 634 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: RG three to Tray Lance to Carson Wentz, a lot 635 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: of them have backfired. And when you've looked at teams 636 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: that just stood pad right, the Chargers are a good example. 637 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: They just waited, Justsin Herbert fell in their lap, and 638 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: now they're doing cartwheels every single bay because Justin Herbert's 639 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: on their team. Hell even Belichick didn't Budge got mac Jones, 640 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: not the biggest fan of but he didn't have to 641 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: trade any assets to get them. Justin Fields and Trey Lance, 642 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: Beside the two picks that were used, traded a total 643 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: of three first round picks to move up to get 644 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: those two guys. So when you trade a lot of 645 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: first round picks for quarterbacks, one, there's no guarantee in 646 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 1: foot fall using a first round pick on a quarterback 647 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: is ever gonna work. The Jets know very well. They 648 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: just used the number two overall pick on Zach Wilson 649 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. It's been a disaster. What's 650 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: funny is I was on a walk the other day 651 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: and I was listening to Daniel Jeremiah's podcast. And for 652 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: those of you that don't know, I know DJ because 653 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: when I first got hired with the Eagles, DJ was 654 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: on the staff. And then when I became the West 655 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: Coast scout, the reason I became it is because DJ 656 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: had been the West Coast scout. He took the job 657 00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 1: with the NFL network and he was telling me he 658 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: was pushing for me to get that job. I begged 659 00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 1: and pleaded, and I got the job and we've been 660 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: buddies ever since. And I text him, I'm like, because 661 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: in their podcast they were talking about Will Levis and 662 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, I'm like, when you first came into the NFL, 663 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,919 Speaker 1: and I was like, twenty years ago, do you think 664 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,439 Speaker 1: that guys like Levis and Anthony Richardson what round would 665 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: they have gone in? Like the fourth? And he's like, yeah, best, 666 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: And obviously the world has changed, and guys, we're talking 667 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Those guys are fourth fifth round picks 668 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: and these guys, both guys are gonna be top ten 669 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: draft picks. So there's no guarantee with anything with a quarterback. 670 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: So if I'm a Jets fan, clearly the Packers are 671 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: moving on don't blame them. Time for Jordan Love start 672 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: a new era. Aaron Rodgers thirty nine. Let's just go 673 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: our separate ways. But this notion that they're a little desperate, 674 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: well that, yeah, that's true. But getting Aaron Rodgers, who 675 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,800 Speaker 1: still is very healthy and has played one two MVPs 676 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: in the last three years, like, you just can't do 677 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: any better unless you're gonna end up with fucking Trevor 678 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: Lawrence or Justin Herbert. And the chances of that happened 679 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: in the draft. You just thought it was gonna happen 680 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: with Zach Wilson, and it's the complete opposite. The guy 681 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: can't complete in a pass, I mean, the guy can't 682 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 1: throw a slant route. If Aaron Rodgers on your team 683 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: in the next week, it's got to be one of 684 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,839 Speaker 1: the great moments. Even if it's just a short term thing, 685 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: even if it only lasts a year or two, that 686 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 1: excitement dwarfs you guys getting bread foive years ago. Because 687 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: of how well this guy is playing. And if he 688 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,359 Speaker 1: signs off on this, he's gonna have a lot to prove. 689 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: A lot of people are gonna be betting against him. 690 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 1: I personally think there's a very good chance of it working. Now. 691 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 1: The one concern would be is that one knock last 692 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: year was like, you know, it took a while for 693 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: them to get going because he's not great with young players. 694 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: And it took a while for Christian Watson, who by 695 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: the end of the season looked really good. Right and 696 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,480 Speaker 1: josh and not Joshua Dobbs, but Romeo Dobbs, whoever the 697 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Nevada, it just took a little time. 698 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Like he kept throwing to Randall Cobb. He is going 699 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: to be immediately dealing with two younger players right the 700 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: high state wide receiver Wilson and Elijah Moore, now third 701 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: and second year guys. But this is not exactly Jordan 702 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson and Davante Adams in your seven and ten. 703 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: So if that, to me is the question mark will 704 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: he play in the off season, I would mandate that 705 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: if I was the Jets, even though you quote unquote 706 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 1: camp Man date, it's like listeneron, no problem giving you 707 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money, no problem making this trade. We're 708 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: just gonna need you to come in OTAs and work 709 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: with our guys. But if you get them, like I think, 710 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: you immediately have to put the Jets, as you know, 711 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender, a Super Bowl contender, a lot 712 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,800 Speaker 1: of unknowns, Like I wouldn't have him above obviously the Chiefs, 713 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals or the Bills, but I'd like their chances. 714 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: I'd like their chances a lot. And last, but not least, 715 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: I think the Geno contract was incredible for a lot 716 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: of reasons. One and I talked about this the other 717 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,960 Speaker 1: day on the podcast. It's cool when a guy it 718 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: takes him a little while to fulfill his dreams or 719 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 1: fulfill his potential. I actually think it's very relatable most 720 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: of us, no matter what business you're in, don't just 721 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: strike oil and you know immediately in your profession in 722 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: pro sports, if you have a fifteen year career, you know, 723 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 1: by the time you get to year seven, eight, ten, 724 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: right in that range, like it feels like you've been 725 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: in the league a long time. And Gino Smith came 726 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: in the league a long time ago and it took 727 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,720 Speaker 1: him till last year to have a big time season 728 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: and then he got paid. But I think part of 729 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: the reason Seattle felt very comfortable about giving him fifty 730 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: million dollars, which compared to Daniel Jones. He threw double 731 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 1: the amount of touchdowns is Daniel Jones. Now we could 732 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: argue they got bunch better receivers, whatever, but still like 733 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 1: Geno Smith, much more explosive pastor than Daniel Jones for 734 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars less is a Geno immediately went on 735 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: record and said if they draft a guy Will, I 736 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: will immediately mentor him and do whatever I have to do. 737 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: Guy like Geno Smith, and I said this, like Alex Smith, 738 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: they are the ideal bridge quarterbacks. Now you got to 739 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: pay them a little more than like the ten million 740 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 1: dollar guy obviously, but one, you can win with them 741 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: or in Seattle's like win big. Probably not, but they 742 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: could make a wildcard again, no problem. And two they 743 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: are great influences on what Seattle's probably gonna draft than 744 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. Oh, Will Levis, I would put money on that. 745 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: And that guy is going to be able to red shirt, 746 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 1: and that guy is going to be able to watch 747 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: a guy who has seen good times, got paid fifty 748 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: million dollars and seeing shitty times been cut, been made 749 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 1: fun of, hasn't been very good. That guy has not 750 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: just perspective but just an understanding of what it takes 751 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,799 Speaker 1: and can give him a lot of different areas of advice, right, 752 00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: not just this is what it's like to be a 753 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: forty million You know what could Peyton Manning really tell 754 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback beside how to kick ass, take names, 755 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 1: and print cash. You know, I'm here to dominate. It's 756 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: not really that relatable to the majority of guys beside 757 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: like being a good guy. I'm not saying he can't relate, 758 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: but from a football perspective, most quarterbacks who backed up 759 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning couldn't do what he did on the field 760 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,840 Speaker 1: and could never relate to the wealth and the power 761 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 1: he had in the organization. Geno's coming at that from 762 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,280 Speaker 1: a completely different perspective. It's why I think Alex Smith 763 00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: was an incredible mentor. Listen, having Warren Buffett or Charlie 764 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: Munger tell you about stocks is awesome. But having a 765 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: guy that like lost it all in the O eight 766 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: crash and then battled back to be successful by the 767 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,360 Speaker 1: end of you know, the decade and by twenty nineteen 768 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: had built up as portfolio. I want to talk to 769 00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,279 Speaker 1: that guy. I want to find out what he did, right, 770 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: I want to find out about his mindset, like there's 771 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot to be learned there. So I think Seattle 772 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: not only did the right thing by resigning him, but 773 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: now is an incredible position to draft a quarterback really 774 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: high and let him sit and let him learn and 775 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: let him just kind of figure it out. Now, there's 776 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: no guarantee that guy's gonna be any good, but he's 777 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna be in a situation where not only is he nurtured, 778 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 1: he gets to watch. But it's not uncomfortable in any 779 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: young person. And I say this all the time. Think 780 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: about the whatever job you have that day when you 781 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: walk in for the first time, it's kind of intimidating. 782 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,080 Speaker 1: You don't know that many people. You don't you don't 783 00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: really know how the day's gonna go. You don't really 784 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: know where the bathroom is. You don't you know, you 785 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,919 Speaker 1: just kind of got to feel your way out. Even 786 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: that first six months, they're just a feeling out process. 787 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,479 Speaker 1: And anytime, and anyone who's listening to this can relate 788 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: to like when you meet someone who is in a 789 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: position of authority who takes you under your wing, how 790 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: easy it is to become comfortable fast, How easy it 791 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: is to when I moved to Philadelphia. I had lived 792 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,560 Speaker 1: in California my entire life. Right when I moved there, 793 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: a couple of younger guys on staff who were above 794 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,839 Speaker 1: me in the pecking order, still friends within the day. 795 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: They're crushing it. I mean, they're both of them having 796 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,320 Speaker 1: a lot of success, and it's just easier to transition 797 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: in a new job when you have people to lean on. 798 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: And I think Gino is going to be that guy 799 00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: for Anthony Richardson or Will Levis and while Seattle like 800 00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: to me, Seattle's winning nine or ten games next year, 801 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,760 Speaker 1: especially when you look at the landscape of the NFC. 802 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone listening, have a great weekend. Talk to everyone 803 00:44:41,880 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: soon see it. The volume