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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I have joined in
Speaker 1: a room filled with some eros. Chris Wesley to my left,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal to my right. What is up? Boys? How
Speaker 1: are you big? Addition to the studio, it's called the
Speaker 1: Westling Camp. One of the in house cameras is just
Speaker 1: trained on West West at all times. And West not
Speaker 1: comfortable with it. Uh but and it's just displaying in
Speaker 1: front of us on a big screen looking at old
Speaker 1: West's shiny dome. West not comfortable with it. But the
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is Greg and I like it.
Speaker 1: And two beats one. So that is a new tradition
Speaker 1: here at the Round the NFL Podcast. I like my
Speaker 1: head shiny, I like more West's. I mean, imagine a
Speaker 1: show with two West is just like arguing Edie arguing
Speaker 1: at each other. All right, don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm giving him that you're out
Speaker 1: of your treat. We should have that West be in
Speaker 1: favor of instant replay for O P I and d
Speaker 1: P I, and then this West be angry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that way, that way that West hates Joe flaccover this
Speaker 1: it is funny to think about. And you can basically
Speaker 1: look at his brothers and and push this theory forward
Speaker 1: that I just came up with, was that Westwood get
Speaker 1: really sick of West, Like if there was another West,
Speaker 1: they'd be at Oh yeah, that's that's borderline cutting. But
Speaker 1: also like West agrees with you, so that's good. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: neither one would back down. You know. It basically is
Speaker 1: watching you with your brothers. No, it's like Superman and
Speaker 1: bizarre Superman. You know he would be strong rom week
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Have an update. I mentioned this off
Speaker 1: camera off Mike a couple of weeks ago, that the
Speaker 1: old Zeuser was getting some pocket squares for his his
Speaker 1: um blazers. What do you call them? The jackets? Yeah? Uh,
Speaker 1: for our various duties on camera here and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what was You saw it as what it was.
Speaker 1: It was a gauntlet throwing a gauntlet, Greg reacting with
Speaker 1: a little bit of like, oh where did this come from?
Speaker 1: All right, that's not my game? Well, who shows up
Speaker 1: in a Safari jacket? Oh yeah? Next week? That was
Speaker 1: like there was a coincidence there. So I just want
Speaker 1: everyone to know that in the mail from Amazon arrived
Speaker 1: four new pocket squares and the little device that you
Speaker 1: put in the in the code pocket where you prop
Speaker 1: up the pocket square, and that is making its debut
Speaker 1: next week on the Around the NFL Twitter show. So
Speaker 1: check it out, everybody. Well there's I mean, the ball
Speaker 1: is clearly in our court now. No. My reaction was,
Speaker 1: think of how much time I would have spent any
Speaker 1: of your life if I told you every time a
Speaker 1: new clothing article arrived at my house. Yeah, but you
Speaker 1: are not like that. You weren't trying to be the
Speaker 1: rising tide lifting all boats like Dan is here right,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, listen, the old juser is bringing the pocket squares.
Speaker 1: You look around, every male figure uh in media now
Speaker 1: is dropping the pocket score. Why why haven't we done it?
Speaker 1: Do we want to be taken seriously or not? Finished
Speaker 1: the suit? Finished the suit? Who was that who said that?
Speaker 1: There was a guy who ran into us at the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl at like two thirty in the morning, literally
Speaker 1: ran into it, stopped us and said you all look great,
Speaker 1: you dressed well, but finished the suit? Get a pocket square?
Speaker 1: So Dan's like thinking, like, wow, I just watched one
Speaker 1: of those you know, up to the minute shows from
Speaker 1: two thousand and fifteen. I gotta step up what Andrews
Speaker 1: Ciciliana has been doing since then? See I I hear
Speaker 1: your voice and the tone and it sounds like jealousy
Speaker 1: because you didn't think of this first, because now you're
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. I've I've worn it, actually worn
Speaker 1: pockets squares on NFL network multiple times. How about that.
Speaker 1: I've never seen it and that's only been like literally,
Speaker 1: I think it's the auto once. I think right, there
Speaker 1: was one tied into Yeah, I think the the wardrobe
Speaker 1: department once or twice, just put him in there and
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, let's do it. But they were
Speaker 1: not your, they were not mine. They were the nf
Speaker 1: on Networks gauntlet thrown down. You're in a tough bocau
Speaker 1: is now if you wear and I know you, Greg,
Speaker 1: if you put the pocket square and you're gonna be
Speaker 1: like hands, this is gonna think I did. And now
Speaker 1: you're an impossible spot. I'm not into it. I can,
Speaker 1: I can. You don't want to finish. I want you
Speaker 1: guys to look good. I think we all should should
Speaker 1: feel good, look good, play good. One of the best
Speaker 1: quotes ever. Uh, Dion Sanders Dan cood play a good,
Speaker 1: play good, feel good, eat good, and make money something
Speaker 1: something along those lines. All right, big show Today, the
Speaker 1: two thousand nineteen San Diego Graybeards are unveiled. Yes, that
Speaker 1: is the making a roster out of the best remaining
Speaker 1: free agents on the market. The old zeuser wrote a
Speaker 1: banger NFL dot com slash hands is check it out
Speaker 1: and we will talk about it for new listeners to
Speaker 1: the show. Dan is the old juiceter, so he's not
Speaker 1: talking about a guest that's gonna join our show a
Speaker 1: little later. It's it's him and also maybe Ricky a
Speaker 1: little musical accompany accompaniment to uh the graveyards. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: work something up for you, okay, and uh, but before that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some news, so let's hit it. I'm
Speaker 1: here so I won't get fine. Beast mode Is that
Speaker 1: a Is that a call forward? It's called a uh,
Speaker 1: not a call back, but the opposite's like a tease
Speaker 1: some news coming up. Beast Mode might uh might have
Speaker 1: a role in the news and beyond on today's show.
Speaker 1: Let's start uh though with a running back. That is
Speaker 1: not Marshall Lynch. It is Jordan Howard of the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears have moved the running back shipping into the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles in exchange for a round pick. This went down
Speaker 1: on Thursday night. The Eagles announced it. Uh. Conditions in
Speaker 1: the trade could flex that selection to a fifth rounder
Speaker 1: in We'll say, Howard's been uh uh, you know, been
Speaker 1: dangled in trade talks since before or even last season.
Speaker 1: Tarik Cohen is really um emerged uh in that office,
Speaker 1: especially under Matt Naggy. Uh so, now with Mike Davis
Speaker 1: also in the room, Jordan Howard doesn't have a place west.
Speaker 1: I remember I remember when my first son was born,
Speaker 1: or maybe it was my second, it would have been
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen. Jordan Howard was breaking out on the
Speaker 1: scene and you were never really sold on Howard as
Speaker 1: a player, but he did manage to put up some
Speaker 1: numbers and be a productive guy, uh for a while
Speaker 1: there in Chicago. What do you think about where he
Speaker 1: fits in Philly and where he is as a player
Speaker 1: at this stage. Well, I think that he was going
Speaker 1: to be demoted in Chicago, and it's never a good
Speaker 1: idea to carry demoted guy who's been used to being
Speaker 1: the star of the offense and the demoted demoted he's
Speaker 1: hitting that t hard. I noticed that demoted, demoted, demoted. Okay, sorry, yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: you know he's used to be in the offensive focal point,
Speaker 1: which he was under John John Fox, and we knew
Speaker 1: last year when Ye came in. Immediately the rumors were
Speaker 1: there that Jordan Howard doesn't fit the offense, and we
Speaker 1: saw that his production went way down last year. And
Speaker 1: I think of Jordan Howard. I've always thought of him
Speaker 1: as sort of the late stage Adrian Peterson skill set.
Speaker 1: He's a one dimensional back. No coach wants to play
Speaker 1: him on passing downs, and he's sort of a tell
Speaker 1: for what you're gonna do, so you sort of have
Speaker 1: to tailor your offense to him. And the Bears weren't
Speaker 1: going to do that, and he caught twenty passes for
Speaker 1: them last year, so they tried to make him a
Speaker 1: little bit of a threat in the receiving game. He
Speaker 1: still had two and fifty carries, so he's been next.
Speaker 1: I give the Eagles credit, Like everyone says, you don't
Speaker 1: have to pay for running backs. Easy to find running backs.
Speaker 1: They're not panicking at running back, and they sent the
Speaker 1: sixth round pick in these These fifth and sixth round
Speaker 1: picks are overrated, and I think smart teams like the
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Rams and the Patriots have been using
Speaker 1: them to get veterans who Jordan Howard's not going to
Speaker 1: change their team, but he's gonna fill a hole for
Speaker 1: the two thousand nineteen season and be solid. Doesn't it
Speaker 1: feel like the last couple of years, especially the Eagles
Speaker 1: are the kings of these moods of players that are
Speaker 1: they have some history of success, but they're not superstars,
Speaker 1: but they might be more valuable than people realize. And
Speaker 1: the Eagles bring them into their building. They did a
Speaker 1: great job and they have Corey Clement there. We'll see
Speaker 1: who else, uh Gwndell Smallwood, Wendell Smallwood. Maybe they draft
Speaker 1: someone who knows it's not a long term solution, but
Speaker 1: if you need someone to take some carries up the middle,
Speaker 1: they needed someone. Meanwhile, on the throne of Sleeves, the
Speaker 1: New England Patriots thought they had um a defensive coach
Speaker 1: on their staff uh for the twenty nineteen season, and
Speaker 1: Greg Ciano, even although I guess he was never the
Speaker 1: higher was never officially announced, and we didn't know what
Speaker 1: they have announced. They have not announced their coaching staff
Speaker 1: at all yet, so they haven't announced any coaching changes,
Speaker 1: and which is a typical Patriots move. They don't do
Speaker 1: it until every last spot is filled. But there was
Speaker 1: an idea out there that he was going to be
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator. Yes, I think that was the expectation.
Speaker 1: Well guess what, Greg Siano walks away from the Patriots
Speaker 1: citing a need to step back spend some time with
Speaker 1: his family. Here is a um A statement on the matter.
Speaker 1: I have informed Mr Craft and Coach Belichick that I'm
Speaker 1: stepping down from my position. UM this is not the
Speaker 1: result of any one event, but rather a realization that
Speaker 1: I need to spend more time on my faith and family.
Speaker 1: I don't want to look back years from now and
Speaker 1: wish I had done things differently. Therefore, I'm taking time
Speaker 1: away from the game to recalibrate my priorities. Um. Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: in a statement, was behind Siano. But this is the
Speaker 1: same Belichick that a couple of days ago and in
Speaker 1: different media context, was talking about how excited he was
Speaker 1: to have Siano on the staff. So something happened. Uh,
Speaker 1: we don't know all the details, but what we do
Speaker 1: know is that Shianno will not be connected to the Pets.
Speaker 1: They've been friends a long time and Belichick said that
Speaker 1: in the statement that he's a close friend. So it's
Speaker 1: not even worth speculating about why. Maybe it's just the
Speaker 1: adjustment going from college back to the pros and remembering
Speaker 1: what that's like. Who knows. The faith and family thing
Speaker 1: is interesting? Well, right, I mean, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: the college coaching is an easy job compared to the
Speaker 1: NFL job. That's just a fact in terms of the
Speaker 1: hours that you spend. But it's wild, and it points
Speaker 1: out the incredible exodus from the Patriots this offseason, not
Speaker 1: just on the coaching staff, but the defensive coaching staff
Speaker 1: is what stands out the most. Here. Here's who left.
Speaker 1: Uh the defensive play caller last year, Brian Flores, cornerbacks
Speaker 1: coach Josh Boyer. They both went to Miami. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think people know about Flores. The defensive line coach
Speaker 1: Brendan Daley went to the Chiefs coaching assistance to Marcus Covington.
Speaker 1: Mike Pellegrino, Uh also left. Oh No, they might have
Speaker 1: to step up. If you go to the Patriots website
Speaker 1: right now and go to their staff, a bunch of
Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff, and you can look at their bio,
Speaker 1: you know, find out all about Josh McDaniels. There's one
Speaker 1: defensive coach. His name is Steve Belichick. That's it. He's
Speaker 1: the only coach that anyone knows about that's on the staff.
Speaker 1: Like what has happening? Picture looks like you just got
Speaker 1: back from a Smashing Pumpkins concert. It's just Bill and Steve.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's Bill's dream, you know, it's crazy. I wonder
Speaker 1: if there's a little bit of like Michael Jordan going
Speaker 1: on here? What's left to prove? So Belichick's like, what
Speaker 1: if I just run the defense, me and my son
Speaker 1: by ourselves. That's a challenge. And to your point, you're
Speaker 1: looking at that Patriots dot com site, the only one
Speaker 1: that really matters is the giant photo of the guy
Speaker 1: on top. Everything else I think will be worked out.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're raising any red flags on this,
Speaker 1: but come on, Bill knows what he's doing. I think
Speaker 1: it's a little it's it's just another obstacle. And the
Speaker 1: bigger issue is that Rob Gronkowski, you know, retired and
Speaker 1: they lost Darrel Patterson. That to me is a bigger
Speaker 1: concern than the coaches. But I think that's something to manage.
Speaker 1: I mean, they had this plane with Shianna, who he loves,
Speaker 1: and uh, now he doesn't have a coaching less. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on the Raiders. Marshawn Lynch, he spent the
Speaker 1: last two years there. Well, the door might be closing
Speaker 1: for Beast mode because Isaiah Crowell, who spent last year
Speaker 1: with the Jets, signs with the Raiders a one year
Speaker 1: deal worth up to two and a half million. Rap
Speaker 1: Sheet reported Thursday. Uh Oakland confirmed the move. Um, and
Speaker 1: you join a backfield that also has Jalen Richard, DeAndre Washington,
Speaker 1: Chris Warren. Uh, Doug the muscle Hamster Doug Martin is
Speaker 1: not in the mix there. Uh and neither it seems
Speaker 1: will Marshawn Lynch at this point. Right well. Rap Sheets
Speaker 1: said today on our air that it's unlikely Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 1: will be back with the Raiders. There was talk that
Speaker 1: maybe after the draft they could see where they are,
Speaker 1: but it seems like this is a move. And I
Speaker 1: thought Isaiah Crowell, who I'm sure Jets fans were dancing
Speaker 1: in the street when he was gone and replaced by
Speaker 1: Levy On Bell had some promising games last year. He
Speaker 1: did he I mean, listen, don't get caught up in
Speaker 1: the four point eight yards per attempt he finished. I
Speaker 1: was Bradley Roby assisted game against the Broncos when he
Speaker 1: just ran through open stretch five yards on the season
Speaker 1: and over two d came in one game. He was
Speaker 1: really he was kind of a nothing burger for much
Speaker 1: of the season, especially in the second half. But yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe you catch him and if you use him the
Speaker 1: right way, he can give you a little something. He
Speaker 1: has a replacement level uh running back, yes, I mean
Speaker 1: and and then the Raiders are kind of the team
Speaker 1: at the end of free agency that just almost have
Speaker 1: a little too much money to spend. They also signed
Speaker 1: linebacker Brandon Marshall uh from the Broncos, who I thought
Speaker 1: was maybe one of the better players available. So it's
Speaker 1: not a terrible move. But they're paying. They're you're paying
Speaker 1: just like a little extra, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like the Eagles, they get Jordan Howard, who's on a
Speaker 1: rookie contract, who's better than Isaiah Crowell, who is getting
Speaker 1: paid double what Jordan Howard's gonna pay. So it's just
Speaker 1: like a small difference of like I think, what the
Speaker 1: smart teams do and what the Raiders do. Um, did
Speaker 1: you know that Brandon Marshall pulled a Anthony barr on
Speaker 1: the Graybeards. We had a handshake deal he was gonna
Speaker 1: be our starting linebacker and then he he walks across
Speaker 1: the street and the signs with another two to the
Speaker 1: A B or tap the GM app They gotta get
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, they were not taking a question their GM.
Speaker 1: We're not officially well that's me. We're not officially recognized
Speaker 1: by the National Football League at this point. In fact,
Speaker 1: there could be litigation coming at some point. Um, but
Speaker 1: I would love to be a part of the savvy
Speaker 1: move to to talk to Brandon Marshall, because you're gonna
Speaker 1: have those dumb fans who thinks it's the other Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall and just say bye bye the ticket for that
Speaker 1: Brandon mar Yeah, that Brandon Marshall was not in negotiations
Speaker 1: with the Gray Beards, which tells you a lot about
Speaker 1: his value. The Dallas Cowboys make a trade. Robert Quinn
Speaker 1: arrives from the Miami Dolphins in exchange for a sixth
Speaker 1: round pick. Uh. He then he takes a little bit
Speaker 1: of a haircut, that's a reduction in pay, signs a
Speaker 1: new one year deal with nine point two million. Uh.
Speaker 1: He could earn up to ten million if he can
Speaker 1: record seven sacks, which feels like a very Robert Quinny
Speaker 1: number eventually. Uh Wes, what do you think about this move?
Speaker 1: Did this make the Dallas defend some line better? I
Speaker 1: think it did. Um. If you look, I'm surprised by
Speaker 1: the contract number. That really surprises me. Offensive paying some
Speaker 1: of it. Okay, Um, you look at this team and
Speaker 1: David Irving did not really give them anything last year.
Speaker 1: He was great and flashy is the year before. Um,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory had a really good year. Both those guys
Speaker 1: are gone, and I think you bring in Robert Quinn,
Speaker 1: you bring in Carrie Hyder who was one year removed
Speaker 1: from an eight sack season as a rotational pass rusher.
Speaker 1: They did a good job adding depth. They brought in
Speaker 1: Christian Covington from the Texans to play um tackle for them,
Speaker 1: and I think they count on their defensive line having
Speaker 1: a lot of bodies to throw at people and I
Speaker 1: think they did a good job of coming up with depth. Here.
Speaker 1: Let me throw one thing out here, Greg, you tell
Speaker 1: me if this is completely crazy. But we just came
Speaker 1: off a season where Levy on Bell got tagged the
Speaker 1: second year and said, no, smell you later, I'll be
Speaker 1: back next year with a big contract. Somewhere else is
Speaker 1: this was there a little bit of thought that we
Speaker 1: want to protect ourselves in cases to Marcus Lawrence situation
Speaker 1: turns ugly Apparently on track talks are going nowhere between
Speaker 1: Lawrence and the Cowboys right now. No, because man, they
Speaker 1: can't imagine a world where they wouldn't have DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: and he's getting paid so much on the franchise tag
Speaker 1: and be hard to imagine him sitting out. But it
Speaker 1: raises the point that I think they should just be
Speaker 1: spending that money on resigning their old guys. Like I
Speaker 1: get it. Quinn. I've I've always rooted for Robert Quinn.
Speaker 1: But the fact that the Rams and the Dolphins gave
Speaker 1: up on him in back to back years and both
Speaker 1: seasons were so similar, and that he came out of
Speaker 1: the gates in September looking very strong and then his
Speaker 1: back issues has kind of made him a career. What if?
Speaker 1: Because for for younger fans who just kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: haven't been following, Like his two thousand thirteen season to me,
Speaker 1: ranks with the best defensive seasons of the decade, and
Speaker 1: it was it was one season, but he had that
Speaker 1: sort of get off and that sort of potential. But
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able and he's known as Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I think that could be better that that he's a
Speaker 1: part time guy and he's getting paid a lot. I
Speaker 1: can't I can't kill even the contract. It's more kind
Speaker 1: of the overarching thought that this is necessary because they
Speaker 1: can't develop their own guys. Yeah, Randy Gregory, Taco Charleton,
Speaker 1: David Irving's gone, and so it was kind of a
Speaker 1: necessary move when they should be really investing in Lawrence
Speaker 1: and Amari Cooper and everyone. UM and other news. John Lynch,
Speaker 1: a general manager of the forty Niners, has spoken out
Speaker 1: about UM the wide receiver room at the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: which he likes, but absolutely people are going to connect
Speaker 1: the forty Niners to Odell Beckham and Antonio Brown, the
Speaker 1: two big wide receivers that ended up going to other teams.
Speaker 1: Here's what Lynch had to say on why Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: and the forty niners could never really be Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I would tell you, you know, um Otel, we were
Speaker 1: really muchtioned that we had been in it. And um
Speaker 1: I think ironically the fact that we had the number
Speaker 1: tick to pick made it more difficult because they wanted
Speaker 1: that badly. They wanted to number ones and we weren't.
Speaker 1: One of the part with that. That's two valuable old
Speaker 1: the pick, and that was an interview with the Athletics
Speaker 1: Matt Barrow. Um. So the fact that they were at
Speaker 1: number two, they were so high up they couldn't justified
Speaker 1: doing it. It was that a mistake. Well, I think
Speaker 1: it tells you that they wanted him every bit as
Speaker 1: badly as the Browns did, but not having having that
Speaker 1: number two pick in the first round, it's it's another
Speaker 1: reminder that when we talk about first round picks in general,
Speaker 1: I think analytics have taught us to separate late first
Speaker 1: round picks, mid first round picks, in early first round picks.
Speaker 1: There are generally fifteen to twenty players in every draft
Speaker 1: that separate themselves from the crowd, and you want one
Speaker 1: of those top fifteen to twenty picks, but they pick
Speaker 1: might be a lot closer in value to a mid
Speaker 1: second round pick than say the tenth pick. And it's
Speaker 1: confusing because you know, they didn't get two first round picks.
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants, well, they considered Jabriel Peppers a
Speaker 1: first round I don't. I mean, he's already played two
Speaker 1: years and and it's different thing. I guess, I guess,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it makes sense though, because the
Speaker 1: Browns have that mid first round picking, it would have
Speaker 1: been a little tricky for the forty Niners to work
Speaker 1: that out and or they might be just offer their
Speaker 1: first round pick. But that's not as good. I expected
Speaker 1: the forty Niners to be even a little louder than
Speaker 1: they have been in this offseason, even though they've they've
Speaker 1: been plenty loud ums. Speaking of Antonio Brown and the
Speaker 1: comments on k n B r uh Lynch, clearly you
Speaker 1: know he's one of the guys that didn't like what
Speaker 1: was going on with Antonio Brown. It seemed we took
Speaker 1: a quick look and then we just said, hey, we're
Speaker 1: not interested in that for our team. Well, this is
Speaker 1: that's how I read into that. The second time he
Speaker 1: said almost the same quote. I mean he's repeated this twice.
Speaker 1: It's it is interesting the little drips and drabs that
Speaker 1: have come out that the recording of Trew Rosenhaus and
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown talking about how how desperately they didn't want
Speaker 1: to play for the Buffalo Bills was interesting. The fact
Speaker 1: that the Patriots have now been confirmed as they were
Speaker 1: kind of lightly in on on Antonio Brown, but they
Speaker 1: weren't willing to give up the same sort of compensation
Speaker 1: that that the Raiders were. Here's a poured out there
Speaker 1: about Josh rosen from Joel Clapp appearing on Wednesday's Undisputed?
Speaker 1: What is Undisputed? Who shows that? That's the Skip Bayliss Show.
Speaker 1: Why isn't it just called the Skipping It is confusing
Speaker 1: because they got the two shows, they got the Whitlock Show.
Speaker 1: They've had that. I don't know what that's called, but
Speaker 1: it's a confusing name. And then they and then the
Speaker 1: Bailiss one. They just just name it after the people. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. He's with a sharp brother right, skipping Shannon. Right,
Speaker 1: that's right. I called the Skipping Shotton Show. How much
Speaker 1: money are you paying these guys? But the names Skipping
Speaker 1: skipping one of the Sharp brothers. It's just like depends
Speaker 1: on the day the show anyway. And now we're going
Speaker 1: to use their content on our show anyway, uh, Clad
Speaker 1: said Josh Rosen, is quote going to get moved. Clad
Speaker 1: added that the Chargers, Giants, Patriots emerged as the top suitors,
Speaker 1: and one of those teams, Charges, Giants and Patriots has
Speaker 1: already offered up a second round pick, which seems like
Speaker 1: pretty good value all things considered. Uh. I guess it's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, Greg, just a matter of when I think so.
Speaker 1: I I left just hearing Cliff Kingsbury talk about it
Speaker 1: and believe that, and just reporters talking amongst themselves and
Speaker 1: buzz and all that. I think they know that they'll
Speaker 1: be able to trade them, and they think the best
Speaker 1: offer is going to come closer to the draft. I'm
Speaker 1: curious though about the Patriots there. There was sort of
Speaker 1: a strong undercurrent from multiple people whether the Patriots are
Speaker 1: putting out there out there to get people off the
Speaker 1: Center not. I don't know that the Patriots were not
Speaker 1: necessarily very high on Josh Rosen that that I heard
Speaker 1: from multiple people. It doesn't matter to you either way, though,
Speaker 1: because you're out. No. I if you get Josh Rosen,
Speaker 1: I'm back in. Yeah. Is it because of the chosen
Speaker 1: Rosen things? I want to root for Josh Rosen and
Speaker 1: that just would be fun. And it's not like I'm out, like,
Speaker 1: oh screw them, They're still gonna be my favorite a team.
Speaker 1: This is just a boring It's like if a team
Speaker 1: signed a quarterback named Joss Wessel, I would have to
Speaker 1: start following it because it would be the same, you know,
Speaker 1: because that would be just like an interesting plot twist
Speaker 1: that you didn't see it coming. But I think the
Speaker 1: Chargers are the most interesting team here, and there are
Speaker 1: some pretty strong rumors connecting them with Drew Locke as
Speaker 1: well in this draft. So I think they absolutely in
Speaker 1: the quarterback market right now, really, because I think Omar
Speaker 1: Ruiz reported Monday that they are not really looking to
Speaker 1: draft at quarterback. It's silly season. It is tough to
Speaker 1: know what to believe. Uh. We talked about it on
Speaker 1: Wednesday's show The Big News. The bombshell news out of
Speaker 1: the owners meetings that offensive past interference and defensive past
Speaker 1: interference will be reviewable and at least two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: the one dissenting vote amongst the owners, it was one
Speaker 1: to one was Cincinnati Bengals owner Mike Brown uh And.
Speaker 1: At the annual league meeting in Phoenix, he told the ESPN, well,
Speaker 1: I've been in that position before. I just vote with
Speaker 1: my conscience and how I see it. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be offensive understated if someone else doesn't want to
Speaker 1: go my way. He added. When they put it in,
Speaker 1: they were smart enough to restrict it more than it
Speaker 1: is today, and it was supposed to be used only
Speaker 1: when the play had a big impact on the game.
Speaker 1: Otherwise you weren't supposed to use it while it evolved
Speaker 1: over time, and now they use it in all kinds
Speaker 1: of situations. I don't think that's good for the game.
Speaker 1: It is the fact that there's going to be officiating era,
Speaker 1: but it's also the fact that instant replay doesn't always
Speaker 1: correct it. It actually compounds the problem. On occasion. West,
Speaker 1: you have a tortured relationship with the Cincinnati Bengals, you
Speaker 1: probably won't classify it that way. You'd say it was
Speaker 1: a difficult or a uh, you know, an ill fated relationship.
Speaker 1: I'd say you and the Bengals not always on the
Speaker 1: same page. But in this situation, it's like the woman
Speaker 1: who tried to engage yourself to you, similar sense, similar
Speaker 1: sit I can't remember agreeing on Mike Brown in many things,
Speaker 1: but agreement and these are the two biggest problems that
Speaker 1: I know. Young listeners might find this hard to believe,
Speaker 1: but believe me, I was around when they instituted instant replays.
Speaker 1: Is all old guys. It was expressly put in for
Speaker 1: particularly egregious, big impact calls. It has evolved over time
Speaker 1: where you have to save coaches from themselves. Who's watching
Speaker 1: out for the game. The competition committee has to watch
Speaker 1: out for the game. Coaches are protecting their control over
Speaker 1: the game. They're winning edge. It's no coincidence that two
Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches in NFL history, Bill Walsh and
Speaker 1: Don shul they have the word edge in their memoirs
Speaker 1: because they're looking for any percentage point that can give
Speaker 1: them a small favor. That's how you win in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and getting calls in their favor is one edge of
Speaker 1: these control freaks and a calm control freaks, not in
Speaker 1: a negative way. When you invest that much time, you
Speaker 1: want your fingerprints all over the game. You have to
Speaker 1: save replay from the coaches. But that's on the officiating
Speaker 1: in the in the league office to stop overturning calls
Speaker 1: unless they're obvious. If they them to take a challenge
Speaker 1: away from the coaches, misused it. Since the rule winning
Speaker 1: to exist, they consistently and I think they did a
Speaker 1: better job this towards the end of last year. If
Speaker 1: they consistently just didn't overturn calls unless it's obvious, as
Speaker 1: the rule intends, I think you would have you would
Speaker 1: have a better situation. Well that is a hypothesis. Finally,
Speaker 1: in the news, UH, the Alliance of American Football the
Speaker 1: a F, which is was launched the week after the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl to a decent level of fanfare. Uh. We
Speaker 1: had some fun with that fact, but the bottom line
Speaker 1: is that the NFL was behind it on some level. Um,
Speaker 1: maybe not enough is what's coming from people connected to
Speaker 1: the league. The games have aired on our network, but Uh.
Speaker 1: The a F chairman told the USA Sports USA Today
Speaker 1: Sports in a recent interview that the NFL p A
Speaker 1: is not cooperating with a F because they're refusing to
Speaker 1: allow the first year league to use young NFL players. Um.
Speaker 1: Tom Dundon is his name. He actually um aided the
Speaker 1: a F earlier in the season by making a two
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar investment in the league when they were
Speaker 1: having some early payroll issues. And it's just incredible, incredible
Speaker 1: to me, guys that, first of all done in this
Speaker 1: guy's a billionaire owns the Carolina Hurricanes NHL franchise. I
Speaker 1: don't care who you are. A quarter of a billion
Speaker 1: dollar investment is a big deal. Um. But I'm surprised
Speaker 1: this year. There are eight games into a season essentially,
Speaker 1: and there's talk that this thing could be the plug,
Speaker 1: could be pulled as soon as after this weekend's games.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I guess the a
Speaker 1: F thought the NFL was going to give them more
Speaker 1: support beyond just some television coverage, that they would actually
Speaker 1: be a true pipeline, which is a great idea in theory.
Speaker 1: But you understand why the NFL is like, WHOA, we
Speaker 1: can't do that. This is professional football injuries and there's
Speaker 1: a collective bargaining agreement involved here. It's not that easy
Speaker 1: to do that. We can't help you like that at
Speaker 1: this point. Meanwhile, the a F is saying that it
Speaker 1: is drowning essentially. Uh, this could be a quick, ugly death.
Speaker 1: It sounds like a threat from Dundon that isn't to
Speaker 1: be taken too seriously, you know. He it's it's really
Speaker 1: a fight between him and the NFL Players Union. I
Speaker 1: think the NFL does want it to be a developmental league.
Speaker 1: They've said as much, and they would like players on
Speaker 1: futures contracts to be available to the a F the
Speaker 1: The problem is the union has not agreed to that. Um.
Speaker 1: There's a battle back and forth, and he said, and
Speaker 1: Dundon seems like he's so frustrated and he's the chairman
Speaker 1: that he says, if they're not going to give us
Speaker 1: their young players, we have to look at all of
Speaker 1: our options, one of which is discontinuing the league. He
Speaker 1: knows the NFL doesn't want that to happen, so he's
Speaker 1: trying to push, you know, the nfl PA to negotiate.
Speaker 1: It's a little in the in the weeds here. I
Speaker 1: don't have a bluff, you know, he said, one of
Speaker 1: which is potentially discontinuing, uh, the league, because I think
Speaker 1: the NFL really wants it. And by the way, it's
Speaker 1: been doing like huge numbers, relatively huge relative relative to
Speaker 1: what's on NFL network normally and relative to other sports,
Speaker 1: I mean relative to like a pete G A a
Speaker 1: regular kind of p G a weekend, or a Grand
Speaker 1: Slam tennis quarterfinal like it's been doing pretty there's a
Speaker 1: reason why they're showing those on NFL network instead of
Speaker 1: old NFL games. People are watching it the in baseball
Speaker 1: as an example, like the Arizona Fall League or something.
Speaker 1: It's not a natural parallel, but you can have players.
Speaker 1: If you're a fan of let's say I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of the Jets, I want to see a young prospect
Speaker 1: um if it's in that league, I would be interested
Speaker 1: in that. But there's just I understand why that probably
Speaker 1: is never gonna happen because the p A is that's
Speaker 1: just too much of a risk. The sports too dangerous
Speaker 1: in that sense to to risk bodily harm and ruining
Speaker 1: a prospect uh in someone on someone else's team. Essentially,
Speaker 1: it feels like a purgatory because the NFL, like to me,
Speaker 1: has been doing them a solid with all the attention
Speaker 1: they've been giving them. But if you're not like in
Speaker 1: bed with them like the NBA has been with the
Speaker 1: w n b A and the G league, like, those
Speaker 1: are entities of the n B A. But the is
Speaker 1: the A, A F and somewhere in between. I mean,
Speaker 1: the NFL is clearly throwing it behind the A F
Speaker 1: in relation to the XFL, which I think it wants
Speaker 1: to fail. I mean, I'm just like reading the tea
Speaker 1: leaves there. But you're right, and I think that's what
Speaker 1: the AFS trying to do is make it a little
Speaker 1: more for him. All right, that's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: All right. You know, it's crazy how time flies. This
Speaker 1: is the fifth season of the Graybeards um uh fake
Speaker 1: football franchise. It started here in Los Angeles, and then
Speaker 1: when the Chargers were ripped away from San Diego, we
Speaker 1: moved the Graybeards south, UM and down the old five.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, what are the gray Beards.
Speaker 1: We look at what's going on. We're three and a
Speaker 1: half weeks out from the league year, and we see
Speaker 1: players without jobs, players that deserve jobs, players that can
Speaker 1: help teams um in nine and many of these guys,
Speaker 1: the majority of the players on the roster will help
Speaker 1: teams in nineteen. UM. So I want to start with
Speaker 1: a plea Greg to um Sometimes I don't want it
Speaker 1: to be lost. I don't want this isn't flipping. I
Speaker 1: want all these players to get jobs. You do, so
Speaker 1: you look at yourself as kind of a gateway to
Speaker 1: the NFL. You're like in your own developmental league in
Speaker 1: a way. Yes, and I have the platform at NFL
Speaker 1: dot com. Uh if if if if one general manager
Speaker 1: happens to read the Graybeards article which really smart decision
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com slash Hansas and sees a player that's like,
Speaker 1: oh wait a second, maybe I should check in on
Speaker 1: this guy again, then the Graybeards have done their job.
Speaker 1: So we are a feeder system in a way. You
Speaker 1: could look at it a different way, which is that
Speaker 1: if it took reading about a free agency, uh free
Speaker 1: agent available on the gray Birds to know that he
Speaker 1: was out there that the general managers inspired, it's a
Speaker 1: bad sign for that team. But before we go go
Speaker 1: way same way. I don't want to before we go
Speaker 1: through the roster um to just send that message a
Speaker 1: positive message. Put together a little bit of a musical number,
Speaker 1: because music is the universal language. That's true. Um said
Speaker 1: that was sex, Now that I thought it was esperanto.
Speaker 1: Um Ricky hit it this is the bill, gray Beard.
Speaker 1: Give him a chance, give him the shot to prove
Speaker 1: them wrong. Gray Beard. The mind is sound, the body
Speaker 1: is tight, the soul he is a evil gray He
Speaker 1: Give him a chance, make him feel who bring him
Speaker 1: inside you all? Gray Gray Gray, Gray Beard Gray. I
Speaker 1: gotta tell you that was better than some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I've seen in halftime shows. You know what. I
Speaker 1: was getting a little bit of a Jackson main vibe,
Speaker 1: you know, like the first the first kind of like
Speaker 1: rock song that they play that's just like a Jackson
Speaker 1: Vane banger. Yeah, I like that, Thanks man, all right,
Speaker 1: put that out of the way, and I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been a nickel back maybe thrown in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a little it's got a nickel back vibe, I
Speaker 1: could say. But there's some electronic elements in there. We're
Speaker 1: not We're not just when the drums start picking up
Speaker 1: the beat. I mean, let's what's out, all right, ladies.
Speaker 1: It was like the Miami vice scene with something in
Speaker 1: the air tonight, alright. That one that was a dated
Speaker 1: ref But I'm with you on it. All of my
Speaker 1: references are dated, and I don't care if people get
Speaker 1: them or not. In fact, it's better for me if
Speaker 1: only a few do. This is a guy I like
Speaker 1: fact checking pop culture. Ricky, do you know what Miami Vices? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's a movie. No TV show. Well but Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: and Colin Farrell. Yeah, please tell me you know it
Speaker 1: was based on the TV show. Yeah? Oh she didn't,
Speaker 1: she didn't. All right, here we go. Quarterback I got,
Speaker 1: and again the same thing, you guys. You evaluate this
Speaker 1: roster and don't hold back. I had had the big fish,
Speaker 1: Evan Silva helped me out last year. And because he's
Speaker 1: so professional, he took it overly seriously and and I
Speaker 1: took up a lot of his time and I felt
Speaker 1: bad about it, so I didn't bring him up this year.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna lean harder on you guys in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 1: But thank you having for your help last year. All Right,
Speaker 1: here we go. Sam Bradford thirty one years old. He's
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the Graybeards. Um he's he's thirty one.
Speaker 1: He might be the oldest thirty one year old in
Speaker 1: the world. Let's face it, he's got bad knees. But
Speaker 1: and he's been in Mothballs for basically two years. But
Speaker 1: he is also two seasons removed from leading the NFL
Speaker 1: and UM completion percentage that's boy. He had a twenty
Speaker 1: touchdown five interception year that year with Minnesota, perfectly serviceable.
Speaker 1: Maybe above that, I bring in Brock Osweiler as a backup,
Speaker 1: knowing that Sam probably isn't gonna be able to make
Speaker 1: it through you know, September, and uh Josh McCown, who
Speaker 1: will be forty years old by week one, but a
Speaker 1: great blue guy. Everybody loves Josh. It's tough when Josh
Speaker 1: McCown is not even a starter on this team. He's
Speaker 1: still like the coach in the locker room. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it'll be great a leader. Well for Sam Bradford,
Speaker 1: he looked cooked last year when he played, but he's done.
Speaker 1: But you know what's he's there. He's basically a coach
Speaker 1: on the field, you know, and the practices and things
Speaker 1: of that. Name. Bradford's interesting as you know, he played granted,
Speaker 1: just two games the year before, but he averaged like
Speaker 1: nine yards per throw in those two games, and then
Speaker 1: had a good year the year before, and then he
Speaker 1: was with this unbelievably terrible cardinal situation that like has
Speaker 1: ended a lot of it felt like it was ending
Speaker 1: a lot of careers and a lot of potential. But
Speaker 1: the fact that Josh Rosen came in and actually looked
Speaker 1: better than Sam Bradford, that was a tough spot. I
Speaker 1: do like the fact that the number one oh one
Speaker 1: guy on our top one oh one free agency list
Speaker 1: every year he's on the gray Beards, whoever it is,
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's good. He's got the good marketing
Speaker 1: pop from the list. And now you put Bradford, who
Speaker 1: has been there stuck at one oh one on your tickets.
Speaker 1: Here's my fix for your quarterback room. Go ahead. Us
Speaker 1: Whaler doesn't need to be anywhere near this team or
Speaker 1: any team, so I would take people or take him off.
Speaker 1: And if you if Sam Bradford can't play, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people think his knees will never allow him
Speaker 1: to play again on this team with who's available, I'm
Speaker 1: going to Josh Johnson rail doing a little door dual
Speaker 1: threat quarterbacking. He played, I mean, he held his own
Speaker 1: with the Redskins at the end of the year. He's
Speaker 1: from San Diego to and local legend San Diego like that.
Speaker 1: On this team, you're gonna need a running quarterback The
Speaker 1: problem is, though, that you with that line like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want name value, local guy this and that, Like
Speaker 1: how about you take a chance on a guy who
Speaker 1: can lead you to a mythical championship. And there's only
Speaker 1: one guy out there that could do that, and that's
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. He was already in San Diego last year.
Speaker 1: He knows where the locker rooms are, he knows where
Speaker 1: the local taco places are. So you don't have to
Speaker 1: help Gino with that. I mean, he was in l
Speaker 1: A last year. Whatever, that's why we're in San Diego,
Speaker 1: nex whatever. He I don't know, Gino Smith. Gino's phone
Speaker 1: didn't ring. He was expecting a gray Beard's called. I
Speaker 1: never can give him a chance, give him a chance.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the running back room. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Marshawn Lynch. The raiders close the door, Well,
Speaker 1: we open a window. And and what's very important, extremely important,
Speaker 1: almost confusingly important in our organization is having a really
Speaker 1: good media guide cover. And that's why, not the only reason,
Speaker 1: but Marshall Inch, you put him in the room. He's
Speaker 1: thirty three years old by week one, but you know
Speaker 1: that he's not going to be able to carry the
Speaker 1: load you. You want him to be a guy, you know,
Speaker 1: a little thumper between the tackles. Maybe you can carry
Speaker 1: you for a half or something to keep him healthy.
Speaker 1: Hope he doesn't quit the team. But you gotta have
Speaker 1: a real potential bell cow guy. That's why J G.
Speaker 1: I is joining us twenty six years old by week one. Uh.
Speaker 1: He has the international appeal as being a guy from England.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna get that hook. And um, you know
Speaker 1: he's had his moments and he's still a young guy. C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson's out there too, so we're gonna have a running
Speaker 1: back by committee. Obviously here showed he had some tread
Speaker 1: on the tires in l A. Uh. And what are
Speaker 1: we missing a guy who can catch the ball out
Speaker 1: of the backfield. Uh, we're gonna chew a fullback instead.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring on t J yelled in twenty five
Speaker 1: years old ability to catch the ball in the backfield.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on my running backs? I am severely crestfallen
Speaker 1: disappointed that you do not have Darren Sprowls in your backfield.
Speaker 1: Thought about it. It makes you wonder, what is the
Speaker 1: gray beer it's here? Couldn't Greg go grow gray hair
Speaker 1: if he wants, if he tried to, right, that's the
Speaker 1: that's like, what is the idea behind the gray beards.
Speaker 1: I always thought it was kind of a guy. You know,
Speaker 1: guys towards the end of their career. Yelden is going
Speaker 1: to be on a team, on an NFL team, I think, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be a part time I know. But
Speaker 1: he's you were so cut throat, and he's young, is
Speaker 1: only twenty six, he's coming off an injury, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on a team, on an NFL team, So
Speaker 1: he's just stopping by the gray beards. I think Sprowls
Speaker 1: is a guy you combined with Marshawn Lynch. To me,
Speaker 1: that's like a picture perfect gray beards backfield. Now I
Speaker 1: get why you're saying that the graybeards. We have another
Speaker 1: San Diego guy by the way, Wow, he was Well,
Speaker 1: maybe I've made a mistake there, But um, it's not
Speaker 1: just about being old. The exercise is just covering who's
Speaker 1: out there. But it just so happens that a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys end up being close to the wrong
Speaker 1: side of thirty, which is tells you a lot about
Speaker 1: how hard I totally made that up, by the way.
Speaker 1: He just but he had his best years when I
Speaker 1: was checking them, like, is that right? He had his
Speaker 1: best year? You know, I had some gray ears with
Speaker 1: the Chargers, and that fan base who needs uh some
Speaker 1: hope and some some love and some memory of that
Speaker 1: you know, would be rooting him on. There's no reverse
Speaker 1: gears in this tank. We move forward with the city itself.
Speaker 1: You know, wide receiver alright, a little bit of a
Speaker 1: problem with wide receiver and and this is this pops
Speaker 1: up every year at the Gray Beards. It's it's a
Speaker 1: position scarcity for real teams. Our team has left to
Speaker 1: pick up the guys that can't really move too well anymore. UM.
Speaker 1: So they have a nice name brand, but maybe you
Speaker 1: worry about separation and you absolutely have an issue with
Speaker 1: UM taking the top off defenses. But what we got
Speaker 1: here is des Brian as Brian is thirty years old,
Speaker 1: hasn't played in a long time now and is coming
Speaker 1: off an Achilles tear. But again, that media guy is
Speaker 1: very important, so we're gonna slap him on there team
Speaker 1: and the just the season tickets. You gotta have eight guys,
Speaker 1: you guys, and from the national you want coverage from
Speaker 1: national outlets. Every team does dez is comeback attempt? Well,
Speaker 1: you find it here in San Diego. Michael Crabs Um,
Speaker 1: he fell into the Lamar Jackson abyss last year. Um,
Speaker 1: but before that he was a virtual lock for over
Speaker 1: a five year stretch for you know, eight or nine
Speaker 1: touchdowns a year. I know, like does he doesn't get
Speaker 1: separation anymore, but they're worse red zone targets. Pierre Garcon
Speaker 1: thirty three years old. I don't know what he has
Speaker 1: left in the tank. Maybe we'll slide him into the slot,
Speaker 1: see if you can do some damage in there. And
Speaker 1: then Kelvin Benjamin just a giant. Just good to have
Speaker 1: a giant. And uh, he's twenty eight and everyone else
Speaker 1: has given up on him. But that's part of the
Speaker 1: Graybeards aesthetic is giving people one last chance. So Kelvin,
Speaker 1: welcome to board. Look how far to Marius Thomas has
Speaker 1: fallen the Gray Beards. We were negotiations but it just
Speaker 1: didn't work out. Well. He's also coming off in achilles
Speaker 1: tear and a UH arrest issue. I think yeah. We also, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a car issue. We also we we talked
Speaker 1: about it internally and having two over thirty wide receivers
Speaker 1: rehabbing achilles tendon tears seemed a little bit of a
Speaker 1: bridge too far. I think a cover of your media,
Speaker 1: you know, right, I think you wanna, you know, think
Speaker 1: about Chris Hogan just because, uh, just because maybe not
Speaker 1: a lot of production, but he brings kind of that
Speaker 1: Patriots championship. You know, he teaches the guy what it's
Speaker 1: like to be uh the middle of a champe threat
Speaker 1: for you, Terrell Prior, I mean a little bit of
Speaker 1: a poison. Maybe. Well we haven't been able to find
Speaker 1: out exactly what it is he's bringing or taking away
Speaker 1: from locker room. You're gonna need someone to replace Crabtree
Speaker 1: when the Patriots signed him to be there, Like you know,
Speaker 1: seventh guy in in training camp just feels ava at
Speaker 1: this point. Once a gray beard, always a gray beard.
Speaker 1: It just stays where it is if they're not on
Speaker 1: a team. On March twenty nine, we get him, all right,
Speaker 1: But but you guys kind are on the same page
Speaker 1: as me, like we're gonna have an issue stretching the field.
Speaker 1: It's an anal, But I do I think Dad is
Speaker 1: a great move because you know, most if he was
Speaker 1: signed by most teams. It's like, all right, Dez, you know,
Speaker 1: calm down with the social media a little bit. Let's
Speaker 1: just like focus on not the gray beards here, like
Speaker 1: fly off the handle, take shots at the Cowboys, do
Speaker 1: it tight end? Uh? Alright? So Antonio Gates was on
Speaker 1: the team last year. He's on the team again, even
Speaker 1: though he's gonna be thirty nine years old by week one.
Speaker 1: Like me, he's a nineteen eighty baby, and we stick together.
Speaker 1: So Gates is back. I'm gonna put Austin Safarian Jenkins
Speaker 1: in my starting role though. Um I saw a little
Speaker 1: bit that I liked in his year with the Jets.
Speaker 1: I know last year in Tampa he kind of just disappeared.
Speaker 1: But Tampa Jacksonville, excuse me, but Jacksonville was just it
Speaker 1: was a bad year in Jacksonville all around. So um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bank on that a s J has something
Speaker 1: in the in the tank and there's not trust me.
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of other options. The pickings are slim.
Speaker 1: One guy I might take a look at is a
Speaker 1: former second round pick, Max Williams of the Ravens. The
Speaker 1: two exes, Max Williams double X. I don't throw up
Speaker 1: the double X injury like that. Yeah, injuries have really
Speaker 1: hurt him, but you know, just for an upside point
Speaker 1: of view, maybe you could turn his career around. I
Speaker 1: think the combination of Gates and um, Michael Human Awa
Speaker 1: Nui would be like really exciting. You got the you
Speaker 1: got the pass catcher, you've got the blocker, you bring
Speaker 1: in the kind of Tonio Gates. I mean, he's a legend,
Speaker 1: he's huger than he's bigger than whom on at this
Speaker 1: he's a Hall of Famer. And then yeah, Human, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe brings in kind of you know, you want to
Speaker 1: as much diversity as possible in terms of their background,
Speaker 1: so you know, maybe get some Islanders coming to the game.
Speaker 1: And I like him on We'll take people from all
Speaker 1: over the world. I'm trying to look at us so far.
Speaker 1: I don't think Marshall Lynch is a Hall of Famer?
Speaker 1: Is he He's board actually an interesting case borderline, he was.
Speaker 1: He was a crucial to a team that was I think, honest,
Speaker 1: I think he's got an uphill battle. But I would
Speaker 1: listen to an argument for him. But Gates certainly will
Speaker 1: go to canton Um. So he's the only short Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame guy, we got. UM offensive line always a
Speaker 1: tough exercise because UM teams struggle to put together half
Speaker 1: a good offensive line and these cities, so we're taking
Speaker 1: what's left. Uh. Donald Penn just got cut loose by
Speaker 1: the Raiders. He has three Pro Bowl bids and most
Speaker 1: recently in two seventeen, so he was functional. John Sullivan
Speaker 1: just played in a Super Bowl. So that's that's not nothing.
Speaker 1: Um the rest Jeremy parnell Um, Quentin Spain, Josh Sitton.
Speaker 1: I mean it's a bit of a roll of the dice.
Speaker 1: With Sam Bradford behind center. I think you have better
Speaker 1: tackles than some NFL teams. It's not the worst offensive line.
Speaker 1: You're right, that would not be. That would not be
Speaker 1: the worst offensive line in the league. Every other position group,
Speaker 1: I think it would. I wor right. I think it's
Speaker 1: the average age of about thirty two or thirty three
Speaker 1: years might struggle in the wrong pen. I like Penn though,
Speaker 1: because you need a guy who does like, hey, we've
Speaker 1: got like the digital like a seven minute video that
Speaker 1: we need a player to kind of do a breakdown. UM.
Speaker 1: Some digital videos go on the local programming to kind
Speaker 1: of like promote the thing, and I think he's got
Speaker 1: that next career in the media and he can do
Speaker 1: that as well. Good call, Good call, Um, it's Jeremy Parnell,
Speaker 1: I said, Jeremy. Well yeah, I think it's but it's
Speaker 1: just spelled. Um. Let's move to the defense now. I
Speaker 1: like this same thing happened last year, and I remember
Speaker 1: the big Fish UH had a similar thought that the
Speaker 1: offense was shaky, but the defenses saw there's some good
Speaker 1: players here on the edge. Ziggy Anza rap sheet UM
Speaker 1: put it out there that he has a shoulder issue
Speaker 1: that teams are worried about. But this is still a dude.
Speaker 1: Twelve sacks two seasons ago fourteen and a half back
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen. It's twenty nine years old or
Speaker 1: thirty years old. Week one. I'll roll the dice, and
Speaker 1: I'm a little surprised no one else has to this point.
Speaker 1: Maybe the shoulders totally jacked, but we we did that.
Speaker 1: Nick Perry, another guy that has some history, UH is
Speaker 1: double digit sack season has fallen off in recent times,
Speaker 1: but you know, we we take a flyer Adrian Clayborne,
Speaker 1: bring him on. UM. He graded that well on PFF
Speaker 1: this season. Played in two of the last three Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: and um, why Mark Brady the shadow league figure, why
Speaker 1: would he be calling me in the middle of an
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast shadoway behavior? And finally Shane Ray, uh,
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, a total lway draft bus that
Speaker 1: looks like but we take a flyer on him and
Speaker 1: see if we can get anything out of him. What
Speaker 1: do you think? Was two guys I like who are
Speaker 1: not on the on this list. Aaron Lynch is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite free agents left on the board. I
Speaker 1: thought he showed really well um as a rotational rusher
Speaker 1: for the Bears last year. And I would take a
Speaker 1: chance on Derek Morgan over maybe Shane Ray or Adrian Clayborne.
Speaker 1: He's coming off like he had a terrible year last year,
Speaker 1: but the year before that, I believe he had nine
Speaker 1: sacks and um, just now turning twenty nine, I believe,
Speaker 1: so still got maybe something left in the tank. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you do a nice job kind of you know,
Speaker 1: having a variety of red flags from from these guys,
Speaker 1: whether if you know, it could be like like a
Speaker 1: ziggy answer doesn't just have one injury. He's got like
Speaker 1: seven different surgeries over the last couple of he's also secret.
Speaker 1: It's like Shane Ray. Actually he's young and healthy, had
Speaker 1: some talent, but kind of not known as you know,
Speaker 1: the best um behind the scenes guy necessarily or you know,
Speaker 1: it hasn't really I don't know, hasn't really uh fulfilled
Speaker 1: this potential. I don't know if he's taking his career
Speaker 1: as seriously as you want. Claiborne though, like Adrian Claiborn, alright,
Speaker 1: good interior defensive line. And here is the third and
Speaker 1: final man on the cover of the media. Guy that's
Speaker 1: Dominican Sue. I mean, the man is photogenic and everyone
Speaker 1: knows Sue getting up there in years. But he's got something.
Speaker 1: He's still got the motor a little bit. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: not the same player was in Detroit, but he will
Speaker 1: be a presence on our line. Corey Legit another guy. Listen,
Speaker 1: he's got a quad surgery's recovering from. So you have
Speaker 1: that red flag. But this guy and he was on
Speaker 1: I believe, on your top one on one boys an
Speaker 1: eight year starter, fairly high. Moe Wilkerson. This is a
Speaker 1: tough one for me because I don't like MOHAMMEDD. Wilkerson
Speaker 1: in terms of as a man. No, the way things
Speaker 1: ended with the Jets, I think he basically stole um
Speaker 1: my favorite team's money and stopped working hard. But he's
Speaker 1: also at this stage in his career twenty nine and
Speaker 1: coming off a serious leg injury in Green Bay, a
Speaker 1: lot to prove, and probably looking for one last pay day.
Speaker 1: Brent Urban not really familiar with his work, but he
Speaker 1: was on your top one on one, so he got
Speaker 1: the final spot. I'm a little surprise he's still available.
Speaker 1: There's some good picks here. Um you might need, like
Speaker 1: a hog Molly, like a huge run stuffer guy like
Speaker 1: Danny Shelton. Um for Demota Peco, who's you know, gonna
Speaker 1: be about thirty four years old. I'm sure has the
Speaker 1: gray beard. So just a beef, beefy guy to take
Speaker 1: off a couple of lineman a poor man snap. I
Speaker 1: like Dan immediately took some notes wrote that down beef
Speaker 1: in the middle of their situational. All right, great, you
Speaker 1: know there is a case to me made that I
Speaker 1: talked to you guys about this before I write the piece.
Speaker 1: But I like him. You did a good job. Linebacker
Speaker 1: Zach Brown another guy. He's sitting at number twenty nine
Speaker 1: on the Westling and Rosenthal Top one had him in
Speaker 1: the top twelve. He was mad at me. I like
Speaker 1: put him at forty seven and it bounced out to that.
Speaker 1: And now he's the captain of the defense of the
Speaker 1: gray Beard, so that I felt it felt like a
Speaker 1: major steel. Not sure if he's captain material, but we
Speaker 1: take chances opportunities other teams win. It's that a terrible defense.
Speaker 1: Him and Sue and Jamie Collins. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with Jamie Collins. I don't know where he
Speaker 1: would fit in. I don't know what the defensive scheme is,
Speaker 1: but I know he's a guy that has tools and flexible.
Speaker 1: I think he can play in multiple schemes. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those defenses, and asked answers the
Speaker 1: question what would happen to a defense if everybody was
Speaker 1: just doing their own thing instead of like like Collins
Speaker 1: and uh and Brown are just freelancing all over their
Speaker 1: freelance and they're just trying to get tackles. Sue is
Speaker 1: just like going for sas, not trying to stop the run.
Speaker 1: So like you have a lot of big players and highlights,
Speaker 1: like you don't get a lot of stole a lot
Speaker 1: of turnovers. That sounds like it probably wouldn't worked, but
Speaker 1: no one's ever tried it right, it's innovative. I got
Speaker 1: Matteo in there too, sure Tackler, he's got a good background.
Speaker 1: So another big thing an organization is that he Um.
Speaker 1: We're very big on giving the beat writers some layups
Speaker 1: for their notebook leads during training policy. So we got
Speaker 1: we got Teo in there, we got we got writer
Speaker 1: for the Cools actually retweeted your column and said, this
Speaker 1: is a gift for beat writers. You have already told
Speaker 1: you've already written the stories for us. I would be
Speaker 1: happy to follow this team. There you go George Breemer,
Speaker 1: who covers the great Well, I'm very big on that.
Speaker 1: Another Hawaii guy, another guy who played in San Diego.
Speaker 1: So I think it's all coming together. You see, you're
Speaker 1: you're picking up on our business model. UM cornerback or
Speaker 1: you know, the secondary. It's tricky. It's it's same thing
Speaker 1: where you worry about speed and age more. But Mo Claiborne,
Speaker 1: who I think is a rock solid number two type cornerback.
Speaker 1: Um that I'm a little surprised that Jets aren't bringing
Speaker 1: back yet or haven't or won't, but he is out there.
Speaker 1: He'll be our number one cornerback. So good luck to you,
Speaker 1: um Mo Grimes. This is clearly you know. I don't
Speaker 1: want Miko to come after me if I left her.
Speaker 1: Left the boy off the Uh off the office list.
Speaker 1: So he's on the team. Even though he's thirty six
Speaker 1: at the stage, he's the oldest. Um Graybeard had some
Speaker 1: gray in his beard played. He's still out there like
Speaker 1: playing sixties seventy snaps the game and not not doing poorly.
Speaker 1: Captain Munterlin and Tremaine Brock around out my cornerback group.
Speaker 1: It's rough out there for cornerbacks. I do like Claiborne,
Speaker 1: who was better than some teams first cornerback Troupe Um
Speaker 1: at safety Eric Berry, Come on, come onto the gray Beards,
Speaker 1: perfect gray Beard. Um a leader in the locker room. Yep.
Speaker 1: We love another easy notebook lead. We love guys that
Speaker 1: are on the comeback trail. Uh and Glover Quinn. He's
Speaker 1: contemplating retirement out in Detroit, but I thought maybe we
Speaker 1: could bring him back for one more ride. A veteran
Speaker 1: in the locker room and a guy that knows how
Speaker 1: to play the position. Mike Adams is another guy, thirty nine,
Speaker 1: definitely gray hair, gray beard. Um, Trey Boston might be
Speaker 1: the best safety out there. You know what. Jennario Gennaro Police,
Speaker 1: who does a great job um editing our stuff uh
Speaker 1: here at NFL dot com, was stumping for Trey Boston
Speaker 1: and I dismissed it. Mike Mitchell who played for the
Speaker 1: Colts last year and I believe one defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Week one week and had to dynamite games for them,
Speaker 1: but then ended up on the injured list as thirty
Speaker 1: three year old safeties. Yeah, he's kind of known for
Speaker 1: some dirty hits and whatnot. I think that might be
Speaker 1: more attractive to the graybeards than most NFL teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Kicker. The Coowski brothers were gonna call him.
Speaker 1: It was SeaBASS is coming back West. And you know
Speaker 1: why he's coming back because that man, for all that
Speaker 1: he's done for the kicking game, after eighteen plus seasons
Speaker 1: in the NFL, we cannot let him go out with
Speaker 1: the shame of the divisional playoff round in Dallas. He
Speaker 1: yanking a hamstring, popping a hammy like some uncle in
Speaker 1: a family or union flag football game. And lipping off
Speaker 1: the field into retirement, no come back rehab. That he
Speaker 1: personified what the gray beards are all about. That's right.
Speaker 1: Bad special teams. I mean I did, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be worried. Do you look at this team. You don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of gunners. You know you're gonna be
Speaker 1: a little worried about the kickoff coverage. And then if
Speaker 1: you're if you're counting on Sea Bass to make a
Speaker 1: tackle on that kickoff, he's just gonna run straight to
Speaker 1: the straight to the I didn't fill out the entire roster,
Speaker 1: so they're just imagine the gunners are all great athletic
Speaker 1: spect You can get a gunner off the waiver wire
Speaker 1: any week of the season. Um So Sea Bass is
Speaker 1: actually my starter. People are gonna say, oh about Kaskowsky.
Speaker 1: He's done really nice work. He has forty five Super
Speaker 1: Bowl rings. But that's a that that's a kicker and decline.
Speaker 1: I want Sea Bass starting. And by the way, as
Speaker 1: opposed to Sea Bass and and yes, I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying out there, where's Kai four bath? Well, guys, guy,
Speaker 1: we'll leave it at that. Finally, puncher Brian Anger, nice work,
Speaker 1: Brian got a job with the Gray Beards. His name
Speaker 1: is Anger. That's it. That's that's That'll do it for you. Now,
Speaker 1: I will ask you the question as we do every year.
Speaker 1: I'll get out of the way. I have an uber
Speaker 1: in mind. I mean, please, Guskouski has appeared in as
Speaker 1: many Super Bowls as anyone in NFL history other than
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, and not because the Super Bowl every years
Speaker 1: along for the ride, all right, I have the number
Speaker 1: in mind. What I believe this team would go uh
Speaker 1: in a in a two thousand nineteen NFL season, Like
Speaker 1: if we swap them out, would say the Chargers that
Speaker 1: you get the Chargers schedule instead, it's the Gray Beards.
Speaker 1: What their record would be? Um, curious what you guys think.
Speaker 1: Be honest, I'm gonna go one in fifteen. I mean
Speaker 1: you just gave him no what you're a bad guy.
Speaker 1: You gave him. You gave him the Raiders schedule. I
Speaker 1: mean the Chargers schedule, so they get to play the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I think they can pick off Oakland at home. But
Speaker 1: I think that I think the problem is scoring. I
Speaker 1: think that the combination of that quarterback room in the
Speaker 1: offensive line, it's gonna be a lot of injuries. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be bold, and it's gonna be a problem about that.
Speaker 1: A lot of times when you see um teams that
Speaker 1: end up in a law season two and fourte three
Speaker 1: and thirteen playing out the string, it's because their quarterback
Speaker 1: room looks a lot like yours. Injuries happened to the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Then they end up with like Matt Castle starting eight
Speaker 1: games or something. So I think the number one issue
Speaker 1: with your team is the quarterback room, and I think
Speaker 1: that limits you're ceiling to four wins. But I'm thinking
Speaker 1: three and thirteen is what this team represents. Okay. I
Speaker 1: look at it, and I honestly see six wins, and
Speaker 1: you're like a proud father and the goal is eight
Speaker 1: and eight. We're not trying to win a Lombardi. Meaning
Speaker 1: what that really is, you know, quietly doing, is shaming
Speaker 1: the New York Jets and teams like that who have
Speaker 1: been unable to win six games for the last three years.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that, you guys, you want to try
Speaker 1: to like manufacture a dig on my favorite team. For notice,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm saying that you're digging on Mike mccagnan,
Speaker 1: that he couldn't even put that. You could put a
Speaker 1: better team of just cast offs than he's been able
Speaker 1: to do. The last year, we were in an important
Speaker 1: rebuild and we tore it down before the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: everyone is like throwing up hosana is about the Dolphins
Speaker 1: right now the Jets to two years ago. I didn't
Speaker 1: here anything. I think you. I thought your point was
Speaker 1: the gray beards. Did it to you? Gray beards? They
Speaker 1: try to compete every year we had were kind of
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins model before the organic fish tank. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know, um, how about that? Though nobody nobody's throwing
Speaker 1: bouquets at the Jets feet two years ago when they
Speaker 1: did the same exact thing the Dolphins are doing now. No,
Speaker 1: In fact, I was I think they were trying to
Speaker 1: win though, weren't they They won five? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was apoplectic that Todd Bowles was flat outlying about
Speaker 1: the rebuilding. All right, there you go, the two thousand
Speaker 1: nineteen San Diego gray beards, and you could get there
Speaker 1: the single give them a chance gray Beards football in
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