1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Well, we're going to the world of cars and Porsche 2 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: going electric. The car maker just unveiled its own electric McCann. 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: I caught up with Timo Rash, the new President and 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: CEO of Porsche Cars North America, in an exclusive interview 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: just ahead of the launch, and we discussed his outlook 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: for the company as they try to tackle the EV 7 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: market here in the States. Have a listen when you 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: think about your role and the time ahead, how's zero doing? 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Are you to this EV story with Porsche electrification of 10 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: your existing models? 11 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: And thanks for having me and having Porsche Cars North 12 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: America here. I think it's definitely a very very important year. 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: But it's not that we are entering the electric space 14 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 2: now as newbies with Porsche Tikhon. We already have quite 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 2: a successful history of entering the marketplace and being pioneers 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: in bringing the electrification to this industry. And I think 17 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: we are especially well prepared because the Porsche electric cars 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: really feel like a Porsche has to feel there all 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: about performance, about the looks, the whole DNA and all 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: of that in a practicality in terms of package. So 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 2: I think we are well prepared and I'm really excited 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: for the year twenty twenty four. 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: But you're also in a difficult spot on you because 24 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: you're going to have people that look at Taikan, the 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: upcoming battery electric Macann, and then there are going to 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: be those that like to drive the stick shift eighty 27 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: three Carrera with the whale tail, and they'll never buy 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: an EV temo. What's your plan for those people. 29 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 2: I think we in the perfect position because we can 30 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: cater to all of the customer needs. I think the 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 2: Porsche brand has always been about offering the choice that's 32 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: freedom and to provide this opportunity to fulfill your dream, 33 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: and I think this is what Porsche will always do 34 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: also in the future. So we can cater to the 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 2: customers that, for example, are looking for an electric, very 36 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 2: very sporty, a suv like the McCann Beth which has 37 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: all the DNA Porsche in it, and at the same 38 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: time we continue to sell stick shift manual nine to elevens, 39 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: which are maybe at the other end of the spectrum. 40 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 2: So and I think that's what a brand like port 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: is all about, that you are really catering to the 42 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,919 Speaker 2: needs of the customers and always being cutting edge technology, 43 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 2: being at the forefront of things that customers are asking for. 44 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: It is the eve of the big unveil of the 45 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: bev or Emachn in Singapore. Is your expectation that the 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: EMA KHN out sells in this market North America? This 47 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: I can I. 48 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: Think you'll appreciate. 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 2: If we cannot really give predictions, we are pretty sure 50 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: that with the launch of the Maccan Electric and we 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 2: will pretty much not be able to cope with the demand. 52 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 2: And definitely the first year, I think there's definitely a 53 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: lot of demand. A lot of people are waiting for 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: a product like this, and this comes at a stage 55 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: where the Macan as we have it in the market 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: right now with the combustionallet the combustion engine car has 57 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 2: its most successful year in its history as of last year. 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: So there's high demand for the existing platform, and I 59 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: think a lot of people are looking for this new 60 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 2: latest edge technology that everything that the McCant already has 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: going for it even to a higher degree. So that 62 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 2: for that reason I feel positive about it. And then 63 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 2: we can really see in the year twenty twenty five 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 2: and upcoming what the real relationship between the Ice. 65 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 3: Version and the Beth version will be. 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 2: Right in the first year I think it's just customer 67 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: demand rum and what we can supply from our factory 68 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 2: in Germany. 69 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: So well exactly so, so your supply constrained, right, Timo, 70 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: You know that demand for the electric Macarann is going 71 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,239 Speaker 1: to outweigh your ability to supply. When you are phoning 72 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: your counterparts in Germany, how much supply are they able 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: to guarantee you for that first year. 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: I can't go into details of numbers, but I think 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: we are very much driven by providing usually always just 76 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: one car lest that the market is asking for. 77 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: So this is what our flexibility. 78 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Also in terms of our production pipeline, having both of 79 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 2: these cars come out of our factory and leiptick in Germany, 80 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: that gives us this perfect possibility to custom tailor our 81 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 2: supply chain to the market demands. And for that reason, 82 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure we will hit the right spot supplying enough 83 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: macan overall, and I assume in the first couple of 84 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: months there. 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 3: Will be more demand than we can supply for the McCanne. 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: Beth, Is this the end of the gasoline powered McCann 87 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: long term? Is the idea that the powertrain is just 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: a straight swap, phase out gasoline and go to battery 89 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: electric on the SUV. 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 2: For the time being, we at Porsche are convinced that 91 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: we have to offer our customers the choice of drive trains, 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,799 Speaker 2: and that's also the reason that we did not come 93 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 2: up with a different naming. So the maccan is what 94 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 2: the mccan stands for. All of the positive elements of 95 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 2: the mccan success that we have is also carried forward 96 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: the Maccan Electric And for that reason, I don't count 97 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 2: out the Macan with the combustion internal engine for the future, 98 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 2: and so we are very happy to be able to 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: offer both of them in the marketplace for the foreseeable future, 100 00:04:59,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 2: next to each other. 101 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: So you're an experienced executive in the world of automotive, 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: right BMW now Porsche, But those are like the legacy 103 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: German names right and the market right now is fascinating. 104 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Look at something like Tesla's cyber truck. You come into 105 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: the role as CEO of Porsche Cars North America when 106 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: you look over your shoulder with the Ema Kahn coming, 107 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: who you worried about out there? Is it the cyber truck? 108 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: You know it's a high a spec expensive model. In 109 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: the first instance, that goes to the high networth individual 110 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: or the big spender, or are you worried about the 111 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: electro electrified offerings from some of your German peers like 112 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 1: Mercedes for example. 113 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: I think in terms of design and the peel and 114 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: technology really being cutting tectrochnology, we as Porsche can usually 115 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of people that start being convinced and 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 2: being excited about the Porsche brands. So we see that 117 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: there will be a lot of opportunities to get the 118 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: Porsche family growing, but at the same time also get 119 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 2: existing Porsches excited posha fans excited. 120 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: For the Maccan BEEV. 121 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: So there's I think a lot of opportunity in the 122 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: still growing a BEV market where customers will come from 123 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 2: and start joining the Porsche family and start this experiencing 124 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: what the feeling of the POSHE product is all about. 125 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: What does the data tell you about where you're taking 126 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: market share and EV historically? Are you taking it from 127 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: the former Tesla mode less buyer or is it that 128 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: you're taking more share from historically combustion engine buyers. 129 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: When we look at Tai Khan figures, we see that 130 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: obviously we had, especially in the beginning when we started 131 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: to launch the Cant twenty nineteen, a very strong growth 132 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: from within the Porsche family that became a second or 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: third car. And now we have seen that more and more. 134 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 2: Obviously also with electrification charging infrastructure growing, that more and 135 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: more people start to use these cars, not just for 136 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: the fun of this very powerful and instaneous train, but 137 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: they see it's overall plus in terms of capabilities, and 138 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: that is for us a reason to see that they 139 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: will come from all different kinds of sources, and we 140 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 2: don't specifically just count. 141 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: On one of them being the major source. 142 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: Timo America was critically important to Porsche in twenty twenty 143 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: three in part because China's growth was decelerating, and I 144 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: think Porsche is said twenty twenty four is going to 145 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: be difficult in China as well. What kind of pressure 146 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: are you under to keep the growth going here in 147 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: the United States North America more broadly, when a key 148 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: market like China is slowing down. 149 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: Being responsible for the North American market, I would like 150 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 2: to focus on these topics. But if you see the 151 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: overall balance of distribution of sales of Porsche, I think 152 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: the Porsche brand is perfectly balanced in terms of its 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: international distribution of sales. 154 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 3: So this is a really i'd say great time to see. 155 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: That there is not such a huge dependency on the 156 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: Chinese market as it might be for some other brands, 157 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 2: and we see the brand being in a very good position. 158 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: I think we have high desirability. 159 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: You can see that in all different kinds, and for 160 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: that reason, I also see good possibility to continue on 161 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: this growth pattern of sustainable growth also here in the 162 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: United States or the North American market also, I think, 163 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 2: driven by custom and demand, continue the success story. 164 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: Elon Musk was talking this time of year ago about 165 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: potential force masure that could happen throughout the year and 166 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: hit EV demand. Are you seeing yourself temo as an 167 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: Elon Musk in this EV space as you enter this 168 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: new role as Portion of America CEO, or you have 169 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 1: a slightly different style in how you approach things. 170 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 2: I wouldn't go any way close to making comparisons like that. 171 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 3: I think Portia has. 172 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 2: Always been unique and it's in its own space, and 173 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 2: I think that also holds true to the entire team 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: because it's not just me. I think it's the entire 175 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 2: team of the Porschecast North America operations. Here in Atlanta, 176 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,560 Speaker 2: at our headquarters and especially in the field and an hour, 177 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 2: I think very unique and extremely powerful dealership one hundred 178 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 2: ninety eight dealers across the United States. So I think 179 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: we are uniquely positioned for future growth and especially for 180 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: a very demand oriented growth, because I think that's at 181 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 2: the end what is driving and also making sure that 182 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 2: the Porsche brand always will stay true to itself. I 183 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: think it's this very unique connection between our customers and 184 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: the brand and this if you look back into the 185 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: year twenty twenty three, when we had the biggest Porsche 186 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: gathering of the world taking place at the Gundeseca and 187 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 2: we had more than eighty five thousand people come to 188 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 2: the racetrack and enjoying this Porsche brand together. 189 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: I would say no other brand that I've. 190 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: Ever seen that can do something like that, and I 191 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 2: think that's unique to the brand and we want to 192 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: keep that because Porsche is Porsche, because it continuously has 193 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: been evolving and never stood still. 194 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: Timo Rash portion of a man Marica presidency