1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Or Japan says China has reportedly fired missiles over Taiwan 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: during military drills after Nancy Pelosi left the territory, joining 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: us to discusses. Isabel Reynolds Bloomberg Asia Government Reporter, and 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: we've heard Isabel from the Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kashida 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: saying that China's missile launchers were a major issue for 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Japan's national security. What does it mean more broadly for 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: China Japan relations right, Well, I think we're in danger 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: of relations between the two countries going back to the 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: kind of an idea that we saw about ten years 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: ago when there was a dispute or a particularly heated 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: phase of the dispute over islands in the in the 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: East China Sea which are uninhabited, which are very close 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: to Taiwan, and the fact um we saw yesterday China 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: called off this face to face meeting which would have 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: been the first since between the two final Foreign ministers 16 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: um in Cambodia. And the reason they gave for that 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: was that Japan had joined in with the G seven 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: statement expressing concern about China as military drills around Taiwan 19 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: this week. But now that we've had for the first 20 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: time Chinese ballistic missiles landing in what Japan sees as 21 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: its um exclusive economic zone close close to Taiwan, but 22 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: part of a Japan's zone. UM. I think that sort 23 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: of takes things to a new level. Um that there 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: will be increased tensions between the two, certainly for some 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: time to come. Indeed, all right, well, let's talk as 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: well about Japanese Prime Minister from Yo Kashida meeting with 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi. As we mentioned, he strongly condemned those missile 28 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: launchers by China. But how was the I guess meeting 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: between those two in terms of the Japan US front, right, Yes, well, 30 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: I was there for the opening of the meeting. Everything 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: looked very cordial. Indeed, Kishida invited her and her entour 32 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 1: to his official residence in Tokyo and they had breakfast together. 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: So that's a start. Contrast with with the reaction we 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: saw in South Korea yesterday where the president avoided meeting Pelosi. 35 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: UM so, I think it seems as though they're sending 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: very difficult different signals about how they see this visit 37 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: by um By the House Speaker especially, Japan has long 38 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: m expressed very strong support for Taiwan UM and and 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,119 Speaker 1: sees that this very close closely linked to its own 40 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: security and its own economic health. So this is an 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: issue that's very close to Japan's heart, I guess, and 42 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: they are very willing to back up the US position 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: on this. And of course on the South Korean side, 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: what we heard was that the president was on vacation 45 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: in terms of the move though from Japan then and 46 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: ovid Pelosi's trip, we've been looking as well to the 47 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: actual benefit that Taiwan could have received from this trip. 48 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: When you look back over what we've seen over the 49 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: course of the week, what do you see as potential 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, I guess benefits from Nazi Pelosi is coming 51 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: to this region, right, well, I'm I'm What it seems 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: to have done, according to some sort of military analysts 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: I spoken to, is is laid out a pattern for 54 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: what could happen if China eventually did decide to UM 55 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: to invade Taiwan. So in terms of military strategy, I 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: guess that that gives people a look at what exactly 57 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: might happen, but that that works both ways. I mean, 58 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: we also saw that the US UM was bringing its 59 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: ships into the area. UM. So from the Chinese side, 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: they can also see how the US might react in 61 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: that case. UM. So yeah, I think it's it's brought 62 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: more attentions that lay to the fragile position at Taiwan's 63 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 1: in UM. But whether it's it's actually helping beyond bringing 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: that kind of intelligence, I'm not really sure. We're looking 65 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: as well as to whether or not the US is 66 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: going to do anything to help Taiwan overcome I guess 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: some of these economic coercion measures from China, what sort 68 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: of further pressures could we see in terms of the 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: economic impact that China could impose on on a number 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: of countries in the region, right, Um, Yes, sorry that 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: that's not my particular subject of expertise, But I mean 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: I think that one of the points is that Japan, 73 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: certainly UM. For Japan, it's it's an issue that China 74 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: is still its biggest trading partner and it doesn't really 75 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: want to lose that relationship, even as it expresses this 76 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: strong support for the US side in these types of disputes. 77 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 1: So I think Japan is still willing to keep the 78 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: door open, perhaps for for um for talks on its side. 79 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: UM and We'll have to see how how that develops. 80 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: Um Um. There hasn't been any threat from China against 81 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, in economic terms, against Japan, but obviously it's 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: the biggest trading partner for for a huge number of 83 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: countries in the region and around the world. Um So 84 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: if it wants to cut something off, that's something that 85 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: many countries will be afraid of. Yeah, or Isabel, we 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: thank you as always. Isabel Reynolds is Bloomberg Asia Government 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: reporter with us in Tokyo.