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Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio Commies, a myth and bullshit radio phonic

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Speaker 1: novella Look Radio hosted by Malamno. Hello, welcome back to

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Speaker 1: local radio, Local Moorees, Welcome back to Brown Girl Our.

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Speaker 1: It's so good to be here. Yes, this is and

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Speaker 1: this is look At a radio is where we celebrate

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Speaker 1: the legacies and geniuses of women and fems of color. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be back. Oh my god, it's

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Speaker 1: been a whirlwind. There's so much has happened my last

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Speaker 1: in the world and our lives, especially in our lives

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Speaker 1: specially good Lord. Yes, um so, just to recap our

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Speaker 1: last episode, don't leak my nudes. We hope you all

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Speaker 1: liked it. Yeah, that was another installment a firm defense, yes,

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Speaker 1: but this time talking about um sharing naked photos and

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Speaker 1: safety online since all that good stuff. I loved that episode.

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Speaker 1: It was great. I loved it as well. I think

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Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of our listeners liked too.

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Speaker 1: We got some good feedback and I'm so excited that

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Speaker 1: you all like you know that you enjoyed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we love and you'll engaged with us. Tweet at us

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Speaker 1: d m S all of it, all of it. Yeah, Um,

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Speaker 1: we also want to talk about the Philip Print article

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Speaker 1: that was published a week ago. Oh yes, absolutely, it

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Speaker 1: was so amazing. So we want to shout out Jessica

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Speaker 1: Palomo from She Well, she's a writer and she's i

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Speaker 1: think freelancing or whatever she's doing. We love her. She's

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Speaker 1: in New York. She's in New York. We love her

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Speaker 1: for reaching out to us, for supporting Brown Grew our

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Speaker 1: look at our radio. Yeah, so we hope you'll read

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Speaker 1: the article. You know, it's on our on our Instagram.

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Speaker 1: You can find it at Philip Print on Facebook, Instagram,

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Speaker 1: Google it. It's great. I was really happy with the

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Speaker 1: article with the interview. I think that just did a

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Speaker 1: great job really just capturing us and what look is

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Speaker 1: all about. We talked about reclaiming the term look at Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we did. That was one of the first questions, right,

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Speaker 1: which is what we we've spoken about that before, like

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Speaker 1: on our first coup epistemologies. Yeah. I think the article

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Speaker 1: is a good way to kind of capture everything we've

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Speaker 1: been doing since our first episode. You know, there's multiple

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Speaker 1: there's different questions you know, that really capture our essence.

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Speaker 1: I feel and Jessica did a really great job. I

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Speaker 1: also love the drawing. Oh my god, it's so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: It was unexpected. Also, we had no idea that she

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Speaker 1: was going to work with this artist. Her name is

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Speaker 1: Faye or Love and I think she's l a based

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Speaker 1: um So, Yeah, we had no idea that that even

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Speaker 1: was going to be a part of it, And it

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Speaker 1: was such a wonderful, beautiful surprise. It was a beautiful

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Speaker 1: graphic animation. Yeah. And it's based off of the movie

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Speaker 1: the picture that we took. Oh for the yes, maybe,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, so much cross pollination, cross collaboration of it.

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Speaker 1: I love it. It's exciting. So that was fun. The

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Speaker 1: Philip Print article. Um. And but then each of us

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Speaker 1: have also individually, UM, I had a lot of different

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Speaker 1: things going on, like like catch us up. You've had

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Speaker 1: some exciting things going on recently behind the scenes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've have been working on a lot of stuff for

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Speaker 1: those of for those who don't know, I'm actually not

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Speaker 1: working at my at the nonprofit anymore. Um. I haven't

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Speaker 1: been working there all summer. So it's been a really

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Speaker 1: nice break, a really nice breath of fresh air. Um.

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Speaker 1: I feel like my mental health is in such a

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Speaker 1: And then I was with the ladies of Word Agency.

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Speaker 1: They if you follow word they have UM they have

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Speaker 1: a shirt that they just made and it's the word

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Speaker 1: woman in nine different languages. And what's really great is

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Speaker 1: photo was in these pictures so and also do a

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Speaker 1: video component of what planned Parenthood means to them. So

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Speaker 1: it was really awesome to hear these women's stories and

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Speaker 1: how plant Parenthood has helped them become mothers or help them,

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Speaker 1: different ways that Plant Parents has helped them in their

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Speaker 1: very fluffy, very cute. I like it. I want to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we need to have a meeting there soon. Um. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: definitely friends. Yeah, and you know, I'm really happy to

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Speaker 1: Um what about you, Mala, You have a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff going on creatively in your personal life share with us. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: is going to be about how to talk to your family,

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Speaker 1: so a lot. But I'm so happy to hear that

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Speaker 1: this look. I love my look right now. So I

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Speaker 1: sister's and your because your prima's and you know, and

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00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: like the fems in your life, you can't use the

424
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 1: podcast to get to us. I refuse, right, You're not allowed.

425
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: You will not weaponize. It's one thing where you're genuinely engaging.

426
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 1: But when you're just using it to try and holler like,

427
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: that's that's a different Yeah, you know. And I'm like,

428
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 1: oh so all this time when you offered me a

429
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: drink at the GIT, from the beginning, you know exactly

430
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: who I was, but you didn't decide to bring it

431
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: up until I said no to you. But now you

432
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: want a second chance, You're going to use your sister. Know, Yeah,

433
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: that's funny. That reminds me of the But it was

434
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: nice to meet the sister. You are so sweet shout out.

435
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: I'm glad you approached Mama. That reminds me of the

436
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 1: guy that works at Oh my god, shout out, shout

437
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: out his name. Um, we will find out your name,

438
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: but shout out boot if you're I'm not sure if

439
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: you listen, but he knows of We sometimes go and

440
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 1: work there before we record, and he's very sweet. He's

441
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: very nice to us, you know. And it's it's nice

442
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: when there's like men out there that are just nice,

443
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: safe men of color exactly, and they're not trying to

444
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,959
Speaker 1: holler at you, whether they're not creepy, they're just like, hey,

445
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 1: like I know what you'll do. Nice to meet you.

446
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: Nico of Espasio is a very safe, trustworthy man who

447
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: offers the space to the community in a non predatory way. Yeah,

448
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: it's important when they're when you do meet those men,

449
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: we know that they're there. However, our experience has been

450
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: the opposite, exactly the ratio with a little out of whack. Yeah,

451
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 1: and today even like I so appreciates and I will

452
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: learn your names since I appreciate you, because oh my god,

453
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: oh my god, story another story. Lord, I'm exhausted so

454
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: earlier today, like Yosa and I were meeting up so

455
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: that we could work on look at that stuff right

456
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: and get the episode up for today. So we're going

457
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: to meet at La Monaca. So I walk in there

458
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, at the corner of

459
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 1: my eye, Um, you know, I work with domestic violence survivors,

460
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: and I go to court a lot with my survivors,

461
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 1: and we often see their abusers, right, whether it's the

462
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: person who assaulted them, uh, you know, their ex husband,

463
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: father of their kids, whatever, domestic violence. So a lot

464
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: of the abusers will see me once a month or

465
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: see me all the time in court. They know what

466
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: I look like, they recognize me. So I walk into

467
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: and remember, the abusers are from the community, you know,

468
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: it's their regular as men, regular as people from the community.

469
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: They're all over the place. So I walk into La

470
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 1: Monaca and at the corner of my eye, I see

471
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: one of these guys. I see one of these abusers

472
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: that I've been in for with, you know, his victim,

473
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: with the survivor a million times. I saw him and

474
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: I had to like, I was like, oh shit, and

475
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: this has happened before. Where I will see abusers like

476
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: out in downtown or wherever, at the market wherever, and

477
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,479
Speaker 1: when that happens, I and I. Once I see them,

478
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: I try to make eye contact and I just leave.

479
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: I just removed myself. So I like basically like ran

480
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: from Lamonatica and I walked in and I was all

481
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: hot and flustered in my cute outfit and ship looking

482
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like Wednesday Adam and I walk into. I walk into

483
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: and the guys are there, and they I've spoken to

484
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: them before, I've seen them at events, and I was like,

485
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys, like, can I tell you

486
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: what just happened? And I told them the whole story

487
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 1: and they were so sweet. They were like, oh my god,

488
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 1: like are you okay? Ye, like all that's that's terrible.

489
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: I hope everything's fine. And it was just they provided

490
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: a safe space from head and distress for a mommy

491
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: and distress. Yes, good, I'm glad that they did that.

492
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, we we're going to coffee there

493
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: sometimes working and stuff. So it's nice that to also

494
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,239
Speaker 1: like get to know people in the community because we're

495
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: not from boil Heights, no, we record here. We work

496
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: out from different restaurants or coffee shops, so we come

497
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,199
Speaker 1: to events all the time. Yeah, we like to support. Um.

498
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 1: I also, since we're shouting out some people, I want

499
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: to shout out Actually Amelie a k a at Ho

500
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram and I believe Twitter, so I actually run

501
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: into her yesterday at Bella Donna when I was at

502
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 1: the headquarters, and it was so funny because my back

503
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: was to the door and Laala and I were, you know,

504
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: in our meeting, and I see someone walk in and

505
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: I turned around and it's Emilie. And I've never met

506
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 1: her in real life, but I've seen her on social

507
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: media of course, like most most people, right, so you know,

508
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: it was such a surprise to see her, and she

509
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: was so excited to see me and was like just

510
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 1: very sweet, very kind, and it was it was just

511
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: a really nice coincidence because I knew that a model

512
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,239
Speaker 1: was coming into shoot with them, but I didn't know who. Um,

513
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was just really good. I just wanted

514
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: to shout her out because she follows Mala and I.

515
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 1: She follows a podcast. She's a local Moode as well,

516
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: another local Moode and she's so sweet and just beautiful,

517
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: so beautiful, has long, beautiful hair, is just really amazing.

518
00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to shout her out and show

519
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: her some love because she shook at that. I love

520
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 1: all the time. I love you girls. Yes, So I

521
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: mean this is a good transition actually to God's worship. Yes,

522
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: best topic, let's get into it. So most of my work,

523
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: I feel like my online work or does internal work.

524
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: What I talk about is like very much about self care.

525
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: So this topic is really important to me. I have

526
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: like little workshops on it and not this like consumerist

527
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 1: like you got to buy a bath bomb. It's like, no,

528
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: self care can be messy and it can be uncomfortable,

529
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: but it's really important and it can and there's like

530
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: definitely beauty to it. It can be pretty, but it's

531
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: not always pretty, right exactly. So God's worship is self care.

532
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. So for me, let's what is

533
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: a goddess? Yeah, let's down goddess worship? Yeah, what is

534
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: a goddess? So I always immediately think, you know, because

535
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 1: we try and speak from our experience and from our

536
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 1: own contexts first and then grow out from there. So

537
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: I always think of like Latino, Latina, Latino could sures

538
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: to be inherently drawn towards goddess worship. I think about

539
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: even though, like, for example, my family is from Mexico, right,

540
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: I think about Mexico and particular, and every Latin American

541
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: country will have their particular variations and origins and models

542
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: of participating in God's worship. I think of Mexico in

543
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 1: particular in my experience, and one of the most Catholic nations,

544
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: if not the most Catholic nation in the world, with

545
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: the most Catholics. Right, And we are all about Jesus

546
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: and God, but everybody is so deeply connected and tied

547
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: to Levi Hin, and that's usually the first person that

548
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: people will pray to and go on pilgrimages for, before

549
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Jesus or God. You know, we love leg Hin on images.

550
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: We love to see her on candles. The younger generation,

551
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: we embrace her in our clothing, murals, in our streets,

552
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: in our home. She's framed. My grandma has that she

553
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: won at Bingo at the church. It my grandmother one

554
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: this huge framed image of praying hands and Pope John

555
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: Paul is like basically like on bended knee, like praying

556
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: to her like that, praying to love you. Hen I

557
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: look at something like that, and I look at that

558
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: as a type of an iteration of how we would

559
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: do goddess worthsha. Yeah. Absolutely, I mean thinking about spirituality,

560
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: like I don't really identify my god or my gods

561
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: as as as male, you know, exactly, So when I

562
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: think about a goddess, I think about and I think

563
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: about I'm praying to someone and praying to Levetan or

564
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: any other goddesses that I that I do engage with

565
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: or I feel like are in my spirit. Um so yeah, definitely,

566
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: like love Eton has a really big significance. And I

567
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: think being in l A obviously, like there's a very

568
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: big Mexican community here, I mean love Eton has. There's

569
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: there's so many cultural ties I think in a lot

570
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: of communities in general, she looks differently right in some

571
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: Latino communities. Um So, yeah, goddess godd is first of

572
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking also, like to me, a goddess is someone

573
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: that's flawed, you know, someone that has there is some

574
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: type of magic to her, um, some type of you know,

575
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: of course spirituality to her, some type of creative energy,

576
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: but also very flawed. When you say that, it makes

577
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: me think immediately of oiled shaky exactly. She's actually one

578
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: of the goddesses that I adore. You want to you

579
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: want to talk more about oil shaky and why? Yeah?

580
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Absolutely so. I feel like I learned about Goyo shan

581
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Ki through act so queer Chikana, feminist, um writer, a,

582
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: theorist everything. Um So. A lot of chican Is actually

583
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: or queer folks also follow Gloria Zaldua and she is

584
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: especially prevalent in the borderlands in the book, right, um So. Anyway,

585
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: So Koyo shanky is you know, an an Aztec um

586
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: cosmology and Aste cosmology. Koyoshaki is the moon goddess and

587
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: she was born of Gatlique. So her brother is Pochi,

588
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: which is the sun god or the warrior god. This

589
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: is coming out of as tech Yes, spirituality, Yes, absolutely so.

590
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: In the in the story, she Um was dismembered so

591
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: cut into pieces by wil Pochili. So I think for

592
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: me Um, I think for a lot of chickens. There

593
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: is this idea of us like putting ourselves back together,

594
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,479
Speaker 1: So putting pieces of ourselves back together when we were

595
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: destroyed by something, by a male presence, by some type

596
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: of predator, some someone that has tried to hurt us.

597
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: So there's this idea that you're putting yourself back together.

598
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Um and yees. So, I think there's a lot of

599
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: significance to to Koyoshoki in our communities, especially trying to

600
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: reclaim parts of indigeneity. Maybe in terms of religion. I

601
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: mean there's a lot of nuances in a lot of complexities.

602
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: Of course, um, two folks that want to try and

603
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: reclaim in indigeneity. Um. But I think it just goes

604
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: to show that there's a lot of a lot in

605
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: our history that we just don't know and that was

606
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: taken from us. Um. So trying to I guess sign pieces. Yeah,

607
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: and I mean finding the pieces I think is also

608
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: just noticing noticing, Oh my god, look at all of

609
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: these femin female women figures that people are literally praying to,

610
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, and pouring their hearts out to. And across

611
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: religion or spirituality, we can talk about Santhia and all

612
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: the feminine, the divine feminine right that that people are

613
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: praying to and that they're calling out to write and

614
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: offering up prayers to the divine feminine in Santheia. You know,

615
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: there's so many different variations and I would be really

616
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: interested in our locomotive as our listeners to tell us

617
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: more about your particular families where you all are from.

618
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: What kind of goddesses? Yeah? Were you all you know,

619
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: looking up to and praying to and worshiping? Yeah? Yeah,

620
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: so you know that that makes me feel like because

621
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: we grow up with this type of worship or just

622
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: praying to a type of goddess a woman figure. Um.

623
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Also like our mothers are our goddesses right there. They're

624
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: the women in our lives that we adore, that we love,

625
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: that we pray for, you know, maybe we pray to

626
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: in some in some ways, um, and that support us,

627
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: and who prays for us more than anybody Our mothers,

628
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: our mothers and our grandmother Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Whenever I

629
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: have like a job interview or I'm going through something

630
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: where I need love and support, I call my Marina

631
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: because she prays a lot, and she likes candals and

632
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: she's very spiritual. So I call her and I tell

633
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: her like, hey, Nina, like I have this going on,

634
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: like being sent me and she goes okay, and she

635
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: and I know that I'm set. I have my protector,

636
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,800
Speaker 1: Like she's gonna put it all out there for me.

637
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: So it's just something very beautiful and spiritual. For me

638
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: and so many of our families, the modes are like

639
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: the keepers of spirituality, absolutely, and they teach it to

640
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: the kids or religion or whatever it is, however you

641
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: do it, it's usually mom or grandma or the absolutely, um, yeah,

642
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Grandma's a goddess. Absolutely, Grandma's a goddess. Mom is a goddess.

643
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: And then I think so when we start to become

644
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: women ourselves, we're like, okay, well, I'm also a goddess.

645
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: I'm also adiosa. So how do I worship myself? And

646
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: how do we really define goddess? Ordosa? Like, how do

647
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: you know if you are one? What makes you a goddess? Yeah?

648
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: What makes you a goddess? I think that that has

649
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: a lot to do with I mean any I mean,

650
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 1: I mean anyone can really like identify as as we're

651
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: not gatekeepers goddess absolutely not, we do not believe that.

652
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: But I think for me, I think a goddess is

653
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 1: someone that's loving on herself, loving on others, empowering herself

654
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: and empowering others, and like I said, really working on

655
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: recognizing acknowledging that you are a flawed being. You've made mistakes,

656
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 1: you've hurt, you've harmed. You've also been hurt and harmed,

657
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: and you're gonna work on it. So nobody is perfect.

658
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: You're not a perfect being. None of our gods are,

659
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 1: none of our goddesses are. So really acknowledging that you're

660
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: a growing person, you're a growing being, right, and you

661
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: have your there's something larger than you, right, there's something

662
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: cosmic about your existence. There's something magical in your existence,

663
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: and you're gonna keep going. And you have like your guardians,

664
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: you have your spirits, you have your family protecting you,

665
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: and you're also protecting others, So there's something mystical about it. Absolutely.

666
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: I also I feel like there's an element of it

667
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: where it's like if you are actively unconsciously or not,

668
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, um, engaging in goddess worship, either of yourself

669
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: as a goddess, because if you're worshiping yourself, you're that's

670
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: goddess worship, or in worship of others. Um. I think

671
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: that there's also kind of like in some ways energy

672
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: work that's being done there because you're giving that love

673
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: and that positive energy towards other goddesses. Absolutely, there's an

674
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: energy exchange, and I think that's so often masculinity, maleness, toughness,

675
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: meanness is what is often so prized and glorified. And

676
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: then the feminine and the soft is often you know,

677
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 1: talk down on and it's like sissy stuff, and it's

678
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: like we talk about superfluous is the word that we use.

679
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: Are unimportant, easily breakable. But I think that when you

680
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: choose to put your energy and your intentions towards recognizing

681
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: and loving the feminine, that's energy work to correct that imbalance,

682
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: because that's an imbalance. Yeah, and that's also why you

683
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: need to be protective of your energy, right, You can't

684
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,720
Speaker 1: just give it away to everybody. You have to protect

685
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: it for yourself and but also recognize, like you, you

686
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: are exchanging energy with other people when you love on them,

687
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: even when you hate on them, you know, there's there's

688
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: energy happening. So it's really important that we protect it absolutely.

689
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of different ways to protect your energy,

690
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 1: but there's also a lot of different ways to actually

691
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: engage in. Yeah, so let's talk about that. Um. One

692
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: of the things that we love is taking pictures, so

693
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: taking selfies, taking pictures, but then also commenting on our friends,

694
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 1: our sisters, our loves are locomotives commenting on their photos, right,

695
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: so engaging in like a whole thread of like I

696
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: just love love, energy exchange exactly exactly. And there's something

697
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I know for me, Like when I'm feeling down,

698
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: I'll go back and i will look at a selfie,

699
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, or I'll look at maybe some love that

700
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: someone was giving me, and I'm just like, all right,

701
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: here's a reminder your loved, you're cared for, You're going

702
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: to be good. So there's something in that as well.

703
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: What else do we do? What else is? What are examples?

704
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 1: And I love the photos too, because we were talking

705
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: about earlier what do we do with images of our

706
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: favorite goddesses? We have images, we like to see them visually,

707
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: So why not apply that same principle to ourselves. You know,

708
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: let's document ourselves so that we can go back and

709
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: worship ourselves. I agree with you, you know, I mean

710
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: our churches, not all churches. Different churches like keep out

711
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: images of like saints and other figures like that. So

712
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,720
Speaker 1: it really depends on where you're from and in particular family.

713
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: But again, from my experience, we like to have images

714
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: and multiple images, many images. Oh yeah, it's not just

715
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: one photo. You know, why should I only have? You know,

716
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: what's so funny? And I share this with with Mala,

717
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: I think, or the mommies at least. Um, I have

718
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: a I have a picture of levit Hin but she's

719
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: made out of crystals. And I picked it up at

720
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: me Vida. I saw it. I loved it because I'm

721
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: like learning about crystals, like I use them in my

722
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: daily life. And um, when my dad saw it, he

723
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: got so upset. And it's funny that my dad is

724
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: the one that got upset because he is like, oh no,

725
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: like all these things because it's a reinterpretation when actually

726
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: levied him herself, and like Catholicism is a reinterpretation of

727
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: the unseen, right, we know that. So it's so funny

728
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: that my dad like takes us out of context and

729
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,919
Speaker 1: it's so upset and then goes and tells my mom

730
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: and my mom because my mom's just like, what are

731
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: you talking about? And my mom is just like rolling

732
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: her eyes because we know how my dad is, and

733
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: he's just like it is here a religious man. He

734
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: can't like he's honestly like fluxed with his religion. There

735
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: was a while where he was, Um, I want to

736
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: say he was getting into like some type of Sandia,

737
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: which we don't really talk about. He won't talk about

738
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: it now. Yeah, oh, but you told us about this

739
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: before because it has like he does, he does, he does.

740
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: But recently he told me he made a comment about

741
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: how he's just like no, no, So I think he

742
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: had some type of bad experience that he won't talk about.

743
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: He won't share. So something happened that he will never

744
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: tell us sleep because he's a very private man. So

745
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: something happened and he said something like and I was like,

746
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: we're not getting into this with the last stuff. Yeah,

747
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know what was happening there. But it's

748
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: just funny that my my my dad is just like

749
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 1: what are you doing? That is a picture of loving hand,

750
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just it's it's really interesting the

751
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: way women recognize what's going on. And my mom is

752
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: just like rolling her eyes like sleep stop it. That's enough, right,

753
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: I know? So what else? Photos? Oh my god? Um,

754
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: I love one of my favorite artists ever in the

755
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: history of the world who I wrote an article about

756
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: hers in UM last summer. Her name is Monica kim Garza. Yes,

757
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: and she is. Yeah. I wrote it for a Vibe

758
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,959
Speaker 1: online Vibe dot Com Vibe magazine in their Vibe Viva

759
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: like Latin Next platform, and I interviewed her and talked

760
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: about her art. And if you've never seen her art,

761
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: fall of her on Instagram, go on her website Monica

762
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: kim Garza. Love her because everything that she does I

763
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: can sider consider it all to be goddess worship and

764
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: meta goddess worship. She paints a lot of very beautiful

765
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: pictures of of fat and full bodied and thick and

766
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: curvy women of color, brown women who are mostly naked, topless,

767
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: titty's out, thighs out, eating tacos, drinking coronas on their bed,

768
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: text listening to Drake with their dog, with the dog

769
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: with the frieda and love your hand on the wall.

770
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely meta goddess worship. You know, love her work, Love

771
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 1: her work. It's all about she. Everything is about just

772
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: loving on the female body at rest, at play, just

773
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: being gentle, being treated with love and tenderness, being fed,

774
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: not being harassed. Yea, And we talked about you when

775
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: you you named it as a famscape, which I like, Yes, um,

776
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: definite femscape. Definite femscape. And what did they make me think? Oh,

777
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: that made me think about how I would really like

778
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: a Monica can Garza painting in my room. Actly because,

779
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 1: as you all know the palace, I have this area

780
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: that is just a big wall and I really want

781
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: to put a painting there and I wanted to be

782
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: a Monica can Garza painting. I would love a Monica

783
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 1: can Garza painting. I'm actually hoping that if my boo

784
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: is listening, can you please commission a painting for me? Yes,

785
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: listen up, yes anyway, Um, yeah, that's another way Goddess

786
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: shut I think that you know, there's always been an

787
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: inclination to paint images of the divine and the Holy,

788
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: So that's just another way to do it, you know,

789
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: through paintings. I think in music there's a lot of

790
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: goddess worship that happened. Yeah, I mean, and then even

791
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: just caring for yourself right, So yes, we've talked about

792
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: masturbation before. I think really knowing your body, knowing what

793
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: feels good, Um, I can really I think elevate your

794
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: spirituality and sensuality. You heard it here. Masturbation is God's worship,

795
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: really incorporate it into your spirituality everybody. Yeah and yeah,

796
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think there's just this um there's

797
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: this movement I feel that's happening of like folks reclaiming

798
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: like or mysticism or maybe learning more about it. And

799
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: crystals And I've seen those like dildos made out of crystals,

800
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 1: which I really want one. They're kind of expensive, but

801
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really really, I really want one, And I

802
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 1: think it's just so it's really important because if you

803
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: think about like violence against your body, right, so then

804
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: you're like you're healing yourself from within with the crystal,

805
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: with maybe an area that you've experienced violence. So I

806
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: think it's like that's another way to really reclaim your sexuality,

807
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: your sensuality, especially if you've been harmed in that way.

808
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: So there's so much there. I feel worship can be healing,

809
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: it can be right because why does one go to church,

810
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: why do you pray? Why do you engage in any

811
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: type of spirituality. Yes, there's someone that I've follow on Instagram.

812
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: Her name is or her i G handle is Ethereal,

813
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: and she talks about how she sages her pussy. So

814
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: I'm really curious to know how. Yeah. So, yeah, she

815
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: has this really big post about like how she does it,

816
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: and it's you know, she like sets sets the mood

817
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: sets her, you know, her invokes her spirits, and her

818
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: clearly cleans the clean cleanses the energy in the room

819
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: and in her space, and she you know, is with

820
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: her legs open. She will you know, stage her her

821
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: pussy basically, So if she's trying to let go of

822
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: a partner, if she if she had a maybe bad experience,

823
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 1: and she wants this energy to be like disconnected. And

824
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: I hadn't really thought about it, but it's it's true,

825
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, especially if you've had a

826
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: partner that you're like, this person needs to like never

827
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: ever be in my space again, especially in my pussyted exactly.

828
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: So I think it's really it's really interesting. I had

829
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: never actually heard that, but it makes a lot of sense.

830
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: I mean, you save your whole body, you know, why

831
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: not like focus maybe for ten minutes, like on letting

832
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: go of any type of harm that's been you know.

833
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: That makes me think of um, like the vaginal steams

834
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: and like the vaginal baths. I've never had one. I'm

835
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: really curious. Want I do. I want to try it.

836
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: I don't know whether I would want to do and

837
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: at home one or go to somebody. We should go,

838
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: We should should do. That should be like a little

839
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: field trip. We should start doing field trips and experiences

840
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: and then talk about them. I agree we should because

841
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: you all like that. Like that, because I know in

842
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: the him does them um laa loca maybe la. In

843
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: the future we might have some collapse and things. Maybe maybe,

844
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not sure. Yeah, so yeah, I

845
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: mean I think there's just a lot. I think when

846
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: you're focusing on yourself, that's like that's the key, right

847
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: and not and of course not in like this way

848
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: where it's like no, I'm the only important being. No,

849
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: But it's like for these these maybe this hour or two,

850
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to incorporate something daily that's worshiping just for me.

851
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 1: I'm worshiping my goddess, myself. I think, you know, the

852
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: diva is sort of the the earthly incarnation of the goddess. Yeah,

853
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: you're right, You're so right. It's a it's a it's

854
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: a complex like type of goddess, but a goddess. Nonetheless,

855
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: I love a diva same. And if we think about

856
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: you know, spiritualities and religions, especially Native there is usually multiple, right,

857
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: like feminine energies or goddesses that are sometimes they're in

858
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: competition with each other, they have beef realistically, but a

859
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: lot of times it's about balance and harmony, right, and

860
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 1: it coexisting and each element exists for a specific purpose.

861
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: So I think that when it comes to us, like

862
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: right now, thinking about ourselves as goddesses, our friends as goddesses,

863
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: and how we can nurture that and it's not competitive,

864
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: you know, when it can just be loving, yeah, absolutely,

865
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: or I mean even if it's not someone that maybe

866
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: you want to be friends with, but y'all can coexist.

867
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to be some type of hate or

868
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: some type of bad energy because like we're like we've said,

869
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: like you want to protect what's sacred, which is your energy? Right,

870
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: don't you folk with my energy? Who says that? Princess

871
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 1: Nokia said she knows all about God is worship. She does.

872
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: That's what she does through her music. She really does

873
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: worship of herself. She also shares like her Little Blue

874
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: Goddess tips her Instagram as well and through um smart

875
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: Girl club. Yes, at her shows, she always makes it

876
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: very clear, you know, women fems, women of color to

877
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: the front. Always she does. When we went to her

878
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: show back in November, she's like, can y'all make space?

879
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,959
Speaker 1: I want the walk to come up to the front,

880
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: And we did, and we did and we went up

881
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: front and it was so fun. So she does that.

882
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: She does that with her goddess worship. I think a

883
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: lot of singers um engage in goddess worship in their music.

884
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of the types of like

885
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: dance and entertainment that women in fems, especially women of color,

886
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 1: engaging that are talked down on, our degraded, our types

887
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: of goddess worship. I think of strip clubs. Okay, yes

888
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't share that update. I started. I mean,

889
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: it's I'm a pause right now. But I started taking

890
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: actually poll classes right and it was so much fun.

891
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, I felt like such a goddess when I

892
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 1: was taking my classes because everyone is essentially nude, Like

893
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: you're not wearing it. You're basically wearing shorts and a

894
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: bron right, and you're really like learning the way your

895
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: body moves. And there's a course a giant mirror and

896
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: you're really just looking at yourself and feeling super sensual.

897
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: I mean, at least that's how I felt. Where did

898
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 1: you What studio did you take your class at? I

899
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: went to It's called fem Body Fitness, but yeah, I

900
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: went to one. Actually. One of the advocates, one of

901
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: the central assault advocates that I worked with when I

902
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 1: first volunteered, ever Um Rhonda hey girl. She yeah, she's

903
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: an advocate, but she also is um. She dances pole

904
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: and she teaches classes. And so I took a class

905
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: at the Sheila Kelly Studio and it was really difficult.

906
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: It was not easy. It's really hard, very physically demanding.

907
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I was bruised, I was in pain. But yeah, they

908
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 1: had like the lights were dark, it was only candle light,

909
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: and it was super slow central music. And half of

910
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: the class was just about like rolling around on the

911
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: floor learning how to make your your your back arch

912
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: as much as possible, just really accentuating and exploring all

913
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: the curvatures, all the softness, you know, and fun exactly.

914
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: So I think of that as God us worship what

915
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: else so much more, you know, I think we wanted

916
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: to talk about how to worship that God us in

917
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: your life. So we had to. So we were talking

918
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: about um mot and I were talking about how there's

919
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: a fine line of when you're adoring someone, say you're

920
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: part you say you're a goddess worshipper, so your partner, right,

921
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: you're worshiping your partner, you recognize her or them as

922
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: a goddess. Right. So there's a fine line between being

923
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: adored and then being fetishized. And we have an example

924
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: of that from recently that's been circulating so on Twitter.

925
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: There's been going around and I think that it was

926
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: on BuzzFeed recently. But this guy who like is like

927
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: a bro I guess, self proclaimed, and he talks a

928
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: lot about and like writes articles and stuff about how

929
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: he is really into his wife because she's super curvy.

930
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 1: She's like a thick lady. She's a bigger lady. And

931
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 1: so it was really interesting because people were just digging

932
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: up more of his post and his work and it

933
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: was very clear that it really weird. It's uncomfortable, Like

934
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: what did you get from it? Like what was popping

935
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: out at you what he was saying. I mean the

936
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: first post, I mean I saw one post and it

937
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,160
Speaker 1: was something like, oh, like people would like make fun

938
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 1: of me because I like like thick women. And he's

939
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,839
Speaker 1: like this, you know, skinny white guy, which is fine, right,

940
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: And he and I presumably I think his partner is white.

941
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: I'm actually not sure. Um. And she's she's curby, you know,

942
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,320
Speaker 1: she's honestly average. She's got average size woman in a

943
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 1: mayor in the United States exactly. Um. And he like

944
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: talks about like it's very centered around him and like

945
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: his desire for curvy women, so it makes him exceptional exactly.

946
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 1: So again, like in the male gaze, that's what's important

947
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: here and in his eyes what it says about him

948
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: exactly that he will be seen with her in public.

949
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: And I want to be clear that, like I think

950
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 1: that there should be as much public vocal verbal on

951
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: TV in real life online, you know, very clear loud

952
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: love and adoration of big women, of fat women, of

953
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: big women in yes, yeah, of course. But when we

954
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: talk about goddess worship, you're centering the goddess if if

955
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: what you're doing is complimenting her in order to say, well,

956
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 1: look how great I am for thinking that she's pretty

957
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: or thinking that she's you know, attractive, or desired or

958
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 1: desired that's no longer a goddess worship. You're not centering

959
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,760
Speaker 1: the goddess. You're centering what your connection to the goddess

960
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: says about you. That's not how you do it. And like,

961
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: what do we here? When men are engaging with us

962
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: in conversations about street harassment, they assume that we like

963
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: it and we want it, and that it's a compliment.

964
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 1: But you see, worshiping a goddess is not harassing. You

965
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: don't force it onto a goddess. You offer it up right, Yeah, absolutely,

966
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: So when men do that on the street, it's not

967
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 1: in a complimentary way. It's not in a worshiping way.

968
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 1: It's in a harassing way. So there's a fine line.

969
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: So how how do you like? What is our how

970
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: to how to worship the gud? I mean, how do

971
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: you like to be worshiped? Start there? We won't get

972
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:04,800
Speaker 1: to the end of the list. Between her and I

973
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: between and I I know, right, let me count the ways,

974
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: Let me count the ways. Let's see. Well, I always

975
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: say that gifts that partners, I love it, go for it,

976
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: say it, say it, put it there. I say that

977
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: whenever a partner gives me a gift, whether it be

978
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: like flowers, jewelry, um, a plant, you know something, it's

979
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: a gift. I see it as an offering. It so

980
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm spending time with them. I'm sharing my body with them,

981
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: my time with them, my space with them. So they're

982
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: offering up to me something, right, something like in adoration

983
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: of me. And of course it's mutual, you know, absolutely,

984
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,320
Speaker 1: that's one of the most important things. It's it's a

985
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: mutual love and you know we're co existing together. Um.

986
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: But I see their gifts as offerings because they value

987
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 1: my time and they recognize, you know, how important I

988
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: am in their life or whatever capacity. Right, maybe I'm

989
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,279
Speaker 1: not the most important thing, because that's kind of weird,

990
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, it's an offering. I

991
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: love that. I love that. And the thing with the

992
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: offering is like, yes, let's talk about when it comes

993
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: to fens two women to goddesses, that there's always the

994
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: expectation that we should be grateful for any attention, for

995
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 1: any little gift you bought me one meal, I should

996
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: be grateful for you. No no, no, no, no no no.

997
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: It's an offering, and I can choose to reject it

998
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 1: or I can choose to accept it. Yeah, absolutely, but

999
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: it's up to me. Oh my god. Yeah, that reminds

1000
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 1: me of that time when we were at Lasita and

1001
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: some someone someone that I was seeing gave me a gift. Remember.

1002
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I remember very clearly. I remember that night. Girl. Man,

1003
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: we're not going to get into the details, but it

1004
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 1: was very uncomfortable because that was not that was not

1005
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 1: an offering, That was a I got you this gift,

1006
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 1: So spend time with me. I'm entitled to a dance

1007
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: with you now because I gave you something. Right, It's

1008
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable as opposed to like, hey, like you're you're

1009
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,760
Speaker 1: coming over and making your dinner. Um, here by these flowers,

1010
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: you know, I missed you this week or something. Right.

1011
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: That's that's very different than here's spend time with me

1012
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: now because I bought you something. Absolutely. See. I feel

1013
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: like so often when it comes to especially situations where

1014
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: it's the energy exchange is going from the masculine to

1015
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: the feminine, that it's such it's so transactional in nature,

1016
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: but with the expectation that the masculine is giving over

1017
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: energy or a gift or something over to the feminine

1018
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,320
Speaker 1: and is expecting more and more and more in return.

1019
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Absolutely right, or is demanding it. It's seen as obligated.

1020
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: But what we're saying is that that's not God is worship.

1021
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: Gods worship is you offer it up selflessly without expecting

1022
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: anything else in or and especially not demanding anything else

1023
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: in return. Absolutely, you give because you want to, right, um.

1024
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 1: And it's like our mothers and our grandmother's right like

1025
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: taking care of us, raising us as little baby goddesses.

1026
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of that is just selfless,

1027
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: knowing they are not going to get anything back, and

1028
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: it's an offering in its own, you know. Yeah, And

1029
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: you know, and that makes me think about the way

1030
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: like our our mother's adore us um or if you

1031
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: have the relationship with your if your mother or your

1032
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 1: grandmother is very vocal in her love. Everyone expresses their

1033
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: love differently, but I know for I can speak for

1034
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: my mother and growing up, she's just always been very

1035
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: adoring of me verbally like to you're so pretty, And

1036
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: one time I was very self conscious and she's like,

1037
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: but but you're beautiful, Like you're so smart, you're so beautiful,

1038
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: and just like really giving me this type of love

1039
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: that I needed in that moment. So it's like kind

1040
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: of growing up with this adoration, a mutual adoration, which

1041
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: is what God has worship is right, because I adore

1042
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 1: my mother, she adores me to and your mother in

1043
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: most cases, in a lot of cases, your mother or

1044
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: some other older or other woman in your life is

1045
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: usually the one who's teaching you how to love yourself,

1046
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: how to take care of yourself, head to tell how

1047
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: to take care of yourself a k a. How to

1048
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: worship yourself. Yeah, I mean, I always attribute my love

1049
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: for makeup to my mother, and any type of work

1050
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: I do surrounding self care, I always attribute it all

1051
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: to my mother and the way she has her ritual

1052
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: of makeup and applying it and taking that time for

1053
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 1: herself and playing music that she likes. Right, So that's

1054
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: definitely like a part of why I am who I am,

1055
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, I attribute that a lot of it to

1056
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: my mother and the work that she does for herself. Absolutely,

1057
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you so much of what I do

1058
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: day to day to survive and get through the day.

1059
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, these are just all like mom lessons

1060
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: that my mom gave me. She gave me literally all

1061
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 1: of these tools she really did, you know? Thank you,

1062
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: Thank you, Mama, thank you. Yeah, I love you. I

1063
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: love you. Um so givel to you like to be worshiped,

1064
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you, girl, give me, give me and

1065
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: oh god, you like to be worshiped? Oh my god,

1066
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: there's so many ways. There's so many ways. You know.

1067
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,960
Speaker 1: What I realized in my last relationship is that I

1068
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 1: kept lying to myself and everyone around me, and I

1069
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: was I would say out loud to my last my

1070
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: ex boyfriend, like oh yeah, right, like I'm not high maintenance, right,

1071
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Like you're so lucky, You're not with a high maintenance girl,

1072
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: Like I'm so chill. But when you're if you're saying that,

1073
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: then it means it's not true. It's such a I'm

1074
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: such a high maintenance bitch. And I just had to

1075
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 1: come to terms with it and just own it and

1076
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: accept it. And I think that over the course of

1077
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: my last relationship, I really truly learned that. So for me,

1078
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: part of it is like knowing that there are people

1079
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: out there that are compatible with that. I can't force

1080
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: this on and I can't force somebody to be able

1081
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 1: to handle all of this or to want to, you know,

1082
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: I think that we also have this. We have to

1083
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: be self aware as goddesses who can handle us and

1084
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: who really cannot and we can't force it. Oh yeah,

1085
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: not everybody can handle all this. If I want to

1086
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: be worshiped, I also have to be careful about who

1087
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm asking that from I'm sharing my time with, Who

1088
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: am I sharing my time with? Because I also don't

1089
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 1: want to overburden somebody who's just not there for it

1090
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: or not capable of it. Um. So for me, it's

1091
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: like really important that I with someone who is patient

1092
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: for me. Goddess worship is a lot of patients. You

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01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: can't rush a goddess. You cannot. Have you ever heard

1094
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: of rushing a goddess? Now? So that reminds me. You

1095
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: can't funk with somebody that doesn't see you as a goddess.

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01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 1: You cannot. I can't. Number one, I can't try and

1097
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: convince you that I'm a goddess. You either get it

1098
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 1: or you don't. You either understand that I need to

1099
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: be catered to and spoiled and taken care of, or

1100
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: you don't. And if you're not willing to do it,

1101
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: there's plenty others that are. There are people who like

1102
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: high maintenance bitches like myself, and like to like contribute

1103
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: to that lifestyle, like to contribute to it, like to

1104
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: keep you know, a woman comfortable, of them comfortable, like

1105
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: to buy you groceries and keep your fridge full. That's

1106
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 1: what I need. That's my God, give me, give me

1107
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: money to get my nails done. Yeah, I don't think

1108
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 1: it's that difficult. It's not so like for me. That's

1109
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: goddess worship is can you keep up with me and

1110
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,040
Speaker 1: can you give me what I need in all the

1111
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: multiple multifaceted ways that I need these things? Um, So

1112
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: that's some of my goddess worship. I think food is

1113
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: really important. Food is very important. I think about so

1114
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: many religions and so many spiritualities where people offer up food,

1115
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 1: like yes, we do that, and we offer food to

1116
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: our dead and our ancestors because food is so important.

1117
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: Is sustenance for me in in love and romance and relationships.

1118
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:26,919
Speaker 1: Food is really important. Those are my offerings, you know. Yeah,

1119
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like food, sex, flowers, sex is everything, and

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01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: goddess worship what else? Yeah? Sex, every sex, flowers, Yeah,

1121
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: and just general I would say, just like taking care

1122
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: of it's really taking care of someone if someone is sick,

1123
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: tired down, having a bad mental health day. And I

1124
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 1: think that that's such a fine line because it's like,

1125
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,560
Speaker 1: you don't ever want to burden someone with your mental

1126
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: health stuff, right, Like you don't want someone to be like,

1127
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: oh my god. Like it's hard to be with someone

1128
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 1: that has a mental health disorder or is anxious all

1129
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: the time. It's really hard. It's a lot of work. Um,

1130
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: So it's like kind of again like another fine line,

1131
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: at least for me. It's like I want some of

1132
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: my partner to be here for me, but I also

1133
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 1: have a therapist that I pay, you know what I mean.

1134
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,200
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm going to share with you maybe

1135
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 1: something that I'm feeling, but also like there's other outlets

1136
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: that I have to process my anxiety or something that

1137
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm feeling, you know, something that triggered me. So it's like,

1138
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: can you take care? Can I trust that you're going

1139
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: to take care of me and be there for me

1140
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: not only physically but emotionally, And like we talked about

1141
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: when we talked about our mothers and grandmothers as goddesses,

1142
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: we also recognize that the goddess must be worshiped. Hello,

1143
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 1: But the goddess also gives a lot in return. The

1144
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: goddess is very generous in giving in many cases. But

1145
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: you don't have to be and you choose right depending

1146
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: on how you're being treated, depending on the energy. So

1147
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: as a goddess, that also means we recognize the divine

1148
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: and whoever we're with as well, and also appreciating appreciating

1149
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: the feminine in the other person, yes, yeah, and seeing

1150
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: them as a divine creature as well as something like

1151
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: someone that is magical as well. Yeah. Yeah, there's so

1152
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: many ways. There's so many ways to pamper us you

1153
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: everybody like, it's it's great. The menu I'm picturing, Like,

1154
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: how nice would it be if we were to, like

1155
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 1: someone were to draw a bath for us and be

1156
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 1: like here, enjoy. That would be really nice. That would

1157
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: be lovely. See, we haven't like, well, we need to

1158
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: go on a retreat or something. We've been talking about it.

1159
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 1: We have. We've been talking about going away for like

1160
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: a day or two, like just us so we can

1161
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 1: gather and be inspired and take care of ourselves. Yeah,

1162
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 1: hopefully soon, yeah, hopefully at some point. We got a planet.

1163
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we're trying to make goddess worship a

1164
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: really system part of our self care, absolutely really consistent.

1165
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 1: I think it's so important. It's central for me. I

1166
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: mean saying we do it every day. Yeah, There's honestly

1167
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 1: nothing that I love more than like when I'm laying

1168
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: in my own when I'm laying in my room and

1169
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: i have my himalayans Sa lamp on and I'm like,

1170
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: have a candle on and I'm burning sage beautiful and

1171
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm like playing music or something. I'm in my robe

1172
01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, this is my space. I feel

1173
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 1: so like adored by myself right now. Absolutely, Yeah, that's important.

1174
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 1: Another big piece how to worship a goddess, how to

1175
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 1: worship me is also like, you know, you need to

1176
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: leave a goddess alone sometimes, like our bigness and like

1177
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: the multiplicity and like everything that's going on in our

1178
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: heads and in our lives, we need to be left

1179
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: alone once in a while, and we need to have

1180
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: our space. I can't be crowded, I can't be cramped,

1181
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: and I can't be felt. I can't feel like I'm

1182
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: being forced to do anything or coerced or pressured. I

1183
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: don't like that or expected expected, like listen, I don't

1184
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:01,480
Speaker 1: even listen to my damn self, Like I can't even

1185
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 1: I can't even convince myself to do things like I

1186
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: ignore myself. So you think, like you know, a partner

1187
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: or somebody else pressuring me, it's just not gonna work.

1188
01:05:09,400 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: I revoke it. I don't like it. I rebuke it.

1189
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like you have to just let

1190
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: me rock and give me my space to breathe. And

1191
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 1: for me, that's worshiping me and loving me. Yeah, and

1192
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 1: I'll come back, and I'll come back once I'm recharged.

1193
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: I'll be back if I want to, Yeah, exactly, if

1194
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, exactly exactly. How do you all

1195
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: like to be worshiped? I have a feeling that some

1196
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: of you have some really interesting ways, and I want

1197
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: to don't hold anything back. We want to know. Yeah,

1198
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: we will as always opposed to post something so y'all

1199
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: can engage with it, and we can engage with you

1200
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: because we want to know, because you know, it actually

1201
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: does like help us to hear all of like when

1202
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: you guys gave us like what do you put in

1203
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: your whole kids? We're taking notes on this side. Somebody

1204
01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:00,520
Speaker 1: actually shared in an email that she keeps see socks

1205
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 1: it's okay, which I love because you hadn't thought about that.

1206
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: But it's true, for these socks are so comforting. You

1207
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 1: want to be comfy at all times. Yeah. Um, so

1208
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: I mean, any final thoughts before we close out? Oh

1209
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: my god, I just I love all the goddesses in

1210
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: my life. I love being a goddess. I love talking

1211
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: about goddesses. Um. I want more people to see and

1212
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 1: love and grasp the divine feminine within. I agree with you,

1213
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 1: you know. I think that we would all love ourselves

1214
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: more and love each other more if we saw ourselves

1215
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 1: and each other and everyone is divine and also flawed

1216
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: and also flawed at the same time. So that's my takeaway.

1217
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: How about you? What are your last words? Yeah? Last words, um,

1218
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 1: continue like allow yourself to be adored and worshiped by others,

1219
01:06:57,640 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: by yourself especially, and keep you know, showing the love

1220
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 1: to the goddesses in your life, the women in your life,

1221
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: thems in your life. Queer folks, you know, it's really

1222
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: important that you that you tell people that you care

1223
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: for them, you love them, you're there for them, and

1224
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 1: let them care and love for you. You know it.

1225
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's hard to accept love right, genuine love and

1226
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: care like caring kindness. Right. It's hard at times, but um,

1227
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: you know, with something to work on and think about

1228
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 1: and talk about, and we're excited to hear what you

1229
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: tell us. How you engage in God has worship, how

1230
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: you like to be worshiped, how you worship yourself? We

1231
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 1: want to hear it all. We want to hear it all.

1232
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: How do you worship yourself and your espasio and your palacio,

1233
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 1: like we talked about like your sanctuary, so now right,

1234
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: like your space is your sanctuary, your temple, you and

1235
01:07:46,560 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: the temple. How do you tend to yourself and your temple? Absolutely? So,

1236
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: I think we're going to close out now. So we

1237
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,720
Speaker 1: want to make sure that you guys utilize your new label. Yes,

1238
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:02,919
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1239
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1240
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 1: the iTunes, myths, still stay tuned, Just continue to stay tuo.

1241
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,560
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1242
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,840
Speaker 1: We really like we liked when we were on iTunes.

1243
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Speaker 1: We loved reading your reviews. So we're working on trying

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1245
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,839
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Speaker 1: you guys are talking about. If you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: thank you so much as always for tuning into another

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Speaker 1: GAPLO another installment of Brown Grow Our Radio. I had

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Speaker 1: so much fun. Like always, same, we love our look

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Speaker 1: I'm motives. Thank you for tuning in Motives