1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that Uh, Chuck Norris was chasing the Tyrannosaurus Rex. 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: The rex was not chasing the jeep. 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 3: Murray, Murray, you there. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 2: You love sandwiches. Huh, Let's go to uh eighty. 5 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 4: It was. 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Wow that Prime time. Maybe I had a crush on 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Betty Rubbell. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: I honestly, until after the segment ended and we went 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: to a commercial break, had no idea that Jonathan Coachman 10 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: was black. 11 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: He caught them the game last night, although they won 12 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 2: the game. You're listening to Stegattson Company. 13 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Mike Golick is with us here on Stegottson Company, presented 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 1: by FanDuel and the FanDuel Sportsbook. It's the final day 15 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: of March. But Mike, boy, have we had a March. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 3: It's it's been full, that's for sure. It has been full. 17 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: Yes, it has. How's your bracket doing, by the. 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 3: Way, bracket's doing ugly. One side of one side of 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 3: my bracket's doing okay. The other side of my bracket 20 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: is really bad. I do have Michigan and Arizona. Iways 21 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: had that right, but I got obliterated on the other 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 3: side of my bracket. 23 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: I would say you went about twelve million other people 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: have Michigan and Arizona probably more I'll take you over there. 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: Yes, And it seems like while Arizona and Yukon was 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 3: a good game in the regular season. So but I 27 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 3: think the Arizona Michigan winner is going to win it all. 28 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 3: I really do. I think both those teams are just 29 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 3: too good. 30 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: Was Duke was Duke won a year final four selections there? 31 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: No, No, I had actually Michigan State. I had Michigan 32 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 3: State Houston. 33 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 2: I know. 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 3: The program. Yeah, yeah, how about it. Yeah, I had 35 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: Michigan State, Houston, Arizona and Michigan. So yeah, I got 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: obliterated on the left side of my bracket sheet put 37 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 3: us there. 38 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: At the end of that classic game, classic March. 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Game, Yukon and Duke Duke makes just a calamity of mistakes, 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: will get to Caden Boozer in just a second, but 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: they're up nineteen. Yukon comes storming back, and now Danny 42 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: Hurley has a chance to win a third national championship, 43 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: as many as Jim Calhoun and two behind Coach k 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Pretty incredible, Mike. 45 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: It really is. And I mean, really, you know, the 46 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: end of the game obviously was the most exciting part, 47 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 3: but the fact that Yukon came back from nineteen down 48 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: in the first half, down fifteen at halftime. You know, 49 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,639 Speaker 3: the record of number one seeds up fifteen or more 50 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 3: at halftime in the NCAA tournament going into that game 51 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 3: there were one hundred and thirty four and oh what yes, 52 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: number one Seeds winning by fifteen or more points at 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: half at halftime was one hundred and thirty four and 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,119 Speaker 3: oh now it's one hundred and thirty four and one. 55 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 3: So you got to give, obviously Yukon the credit for 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 3: coming back to even putting themselves in the position that 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 3: they were in. And then you know, Kaden Boozer, you 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 3: hold onto the ball, You'll wait to get you try 59 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: and throw it to a wide open player. I mean, 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 3: what do you do in that situation? 61 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: We asked this on the show yesterday Classic Sports Talk Radio. 62 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 5: Did Duke lose it or did Yukon win it? 63 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 3: Well, I think the classic answer to a question like 64 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 3: that is a little bit of both, right, I mean. 65 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: I mean it's right here, Well, that's exactly right. Well, 66 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: Taylor saying the sports radio rules is you have to 67 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: choose one. I mean, that's it. 68 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 3: Oh, I would say, then Yukon won it because Yukon 69 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: was Yukan was one of eighteen from three point land 70 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 3: and finished four of five. You know, the defense tightened up. 71 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: Obviously the shooting fell off of Duke, but Yukon still 72 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: had to score to make up that different. So I'll 73 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 3: always give credit to the team that came back. 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 2: I love Taylor. 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: This is a Hall of Fame fucking broadcaster, Mike Golik, 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: and he doesn't give the answer the way Taylor wants 77 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: him to answer the question, and Taylor's getting all over him. 78 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: I love it. 79 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 3: Yes, that's okay. That's the youth, the youth youth of 80 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: of America. Now, they just they just don't care about 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: the past. They just push forward. 82 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 4: No, my only critique was, you gave goal like two 83 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: options and then he just said a little bit of both. 84 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: Yes, listen, there's there's a reason he's the most beloved 85 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: sports talk ghost in the history of the fucking industry. 86 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: I mean, listen, technically it is both right, because one 87 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: side has to play worse than the other side has 88 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 3: to play better. I mean, technically I was correct, Tailor. 89 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: I hate to, you know, admonish you here publicly, but 90 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: you know, I I will give you the answer, and 91 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 3: I'll say more Yukon because of the comeback. 92 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: You see, he stays in the good graces of both 93 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: Duke and Yukon by answering it the way he answered it. 94 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Tailor. 95 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm still just celebrating that Duke loss. 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 3: He really is. 97 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: It's like he won a national championship sid because he 98 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: went to North Carolina. 99 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 3: You know, you know, there are we talk about universally 100 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 3: loved and universally hated teams. Talking Notre Dame, you're talking 101 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: the Yankees, You're talking the Cowboys, and you're talking Duke. 102 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe the Yankees. If there is a 103 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 3: team that is more cheered on more to lose than Duke, 104 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 3: I would say maybe the Yankees would be I think though, 105 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: I would put those two above Notre Dame and the Cowboys. 106 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 2: I mean, the Cowboys are right there. We actually did 107 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: this yesterday. 108 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: It was a Mount Rushmore Monday, and we drafted the 109 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 1: teams we love watching lose. And I won, of course, 110 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: but I took the Cowboys first. I had the first 111 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: overall pick, and I took the Cowboys and I ended 112 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 1: up winning. 113 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: It's the thing about them is they haven't won in 114 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: so long you almost forgot. The last time they won 115 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: was ninety six. I mean, it's been a long time 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 3: for them. 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, any other teams in their teams. Because it's funny, Mike, 119 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: the entire country would have been rooting against Yukon if 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: they had it playing Duke. 121 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, everybody's going to be rooting for Illinois, and 122 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: Illinois is a favorite in this game. Yeah, definitely, people 123 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: are rooting for Illinois. 124 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, so help me out, because you know, 125 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 1: people tend to roof for the things they want to see. 126 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: They might want to see Yukon take on one of 127 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: these two teams in the finals. 128 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with Illinois. Then they'll root 129 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: against you. Cop. 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 3: That's true because Yukon did play Arizona in the regular season. 131 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: That was a one point game for a while. That 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 3: ended up being a four point I think seventy one 133 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: sixty seven win for Arizona. Michigan obviously played Illinois both 134 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 3: being in the Big Ten, and Michigan smoked him by 135 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 3: like fourteen eighty four seventy. So I don't know if 136 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 3: anybody wants to see that as a rematch. 137 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: Where are you and Danny Hurley? 138 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: Because I was. He's a great coach. I was fiery, 139 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: I know, but like, hey, dial it back a little bit, 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, just a little bit. It's about the kids, 141 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: it's not about you. 142 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 3: You know. I think he would he realizes that. But 143 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: when the heat of the hits and the adrenalines flowing, 144 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: I don't think he can help himself. He is who 145 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 3: he is, you know, I don't I don't see him 146 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 3: change it. He is he is boy, he is out there. 147 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: But that headbutt of the referee was a foul, no, 148 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah. 149 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 3: I still don't know. And if we found out what 150 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: was actually said, was the ref actually trying because it 151 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 3: was so loud, trying to tell Danny, hey, there's still 152 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 3: time on the clock. Because Danny turned around right away 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: and went back to the sideline, I don't know. It 154 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: looked odd, but it looked od except it didn't because 155 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: it was Danny. 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: Hurley, right, Yes, Mike, it's it's I always feel bad 157 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: for athletes in the spot of Caden boozer, where I 158 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: just want teams to. 159 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 2: Win, and I wanted to be a great game. 160 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: I obviously wanted to be a close game, a classic 161 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: game and all that. I just don't want the games 162 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: to come down to a single play a single person, 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: and that person has to live with that for the 164 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: remainder of time. Uh. Caden Boozer, who we talked about 165 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: this yesterday, he made it. He made a colossal mistake. 166 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: It was a terrible turnover. It ended up costing them 167 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: the game. Shyer after the game said, there were a 168 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: ton of things that happened before that that gonna help 169 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: us win the game. 170 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: How'd you feel for Caden Boozer? 171 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: I'll play the press conference sound here after the game 172 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: in just a second, because we didn't spend enough time 173 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 1: admiring him for how composed he was in that situation 174 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: after the game, when being asked questions by the media 175 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: would suggests what a mature kid he is, the son 176 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: of Carlos Boozer. But how'd you feel for Kaden Boozer 177 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: as that went down? 178 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, you you always feel bad for 179 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 3: a player when they're when they're in a situation where 180 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: their mistake. You know, he had fifteen points, he was 181 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: four or five shooting six or six from six or 182 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 3: six from the free throw line. So I mean he 183 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: had a he had a good game. It was just 184 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 3: a tough turnover. It's like do you pump fake it? 185 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: Do you hold it like I said, and just get 186 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: fouled and go to the line. 187 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: And it was a one in one situation. We kind 188 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: of left that out yesterday. It was a one in 189 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: one situation. So yeah, so. 190 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 3: So so maybe it's not way to get fouled, right. 191 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: You know, Shire said that they they wanted to put 192 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: uh or or Danny Hurley had said they wanted to 193 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: put pressure up earlier and foul earlier. Uh, but Duke 194 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: got the ball up to where they did to Cayden, 195 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 3: And yeah, I mean it was it was a mistake. 196 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:35,079 Speaker 3: And I wonder I wonder do because we always say 197 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: we feel bad for the college player, right, yes, do 198 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: people feel as bad? Throw this out in the poll. 199 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 3: Do people feel as bad for college players now that 200 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 3: they're getting paid? 201 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: They know they're getting paid, right, and now that now 202 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: that you know what college athlete is getting paid, do 203 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: you feel as bad. 204 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: For them when they make a mistake. 205 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: It's a great question, Mikeya, Do you feel as bad 206 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: for a college player now that it's so overt? 207 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 2: Right? 208 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Like we appeal back the curtain. This is not suitcases 209 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: full of cash. They are paying the players. Do you 210 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: feel as bad for Kaden Boozer now as you would 211 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: have maybe five years ago? 212 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: I'm not sure that I would. 213 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: And Mike brings that up, and now I'm starting to 214 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 5: think about it, and I'm going, you know, I don't 215 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 5: feel as bad for him, and I was maybe that's why. 216 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 2: Right, Well that in duke. Yeah, well, I mean. 217 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 5: That's the problem is I'm trying to view it through 218 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: the non duke lens and I can't. It's too blue. 219 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: Notice I haven't asked hellor that question. Yeah, don't ask 220 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 2: me if I feel bad. 221 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: Ha ha. 222 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 2: I always feel bad for athletes in that spot. 223 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: I was calling a Final four for women's lacrosse when 224 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: I was at ESPN, Mike and there was it was 225 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: a classic game. It was BC in North Carolina and 226 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: someone on Carolina had an easy goal to end the 227 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: game and she missed it, and I said, oh, man, 228 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: I feel terrible for her. She's going to wake up 229 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: every single day after the remainder of her life and 230 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: have to think about that moment. 231 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: Yep. 232 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 2: And people got upset with me, and I was just 233 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: being honest. 234 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: I was just being truthful because that's the reality, and 235 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: Kaden News are reporters of how he acted after the game. 236 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 2: We'll play it again in just a second. 237 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: He's gonna wake up every single day, it doesn't matter 238 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: where he is, and he's going to be thinking about 239 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: that moment. 240 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, he absolutely is. But every pro athlete who 241 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,679 Speaker 3: makes a mistake, they're going to think about it. I 242 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 3: don't care if they're you know, if Kaden Boozer is 243 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 3: what eighteen nineteen years old, If there's a pro athlete 244 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: out there that's thirty two, you know, then and they 245 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 3: drop a pass, or they drop an interception, or they 246 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: misa tackle something in a crucial moment, they're going to 247 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 3: remember it. But we don't seem to feel as bad 248 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 3: for the pro athlete than we do for the young 249 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: college kid. That's why I ask, Now the college kid 250 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 3: is flushed with money, do we still feel as bad? 251 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 5: Oh? 252 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: Man, I mean, they're getting paid a lot. How much 253 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: you think Kaden users getting paid? Probably a lot? 254 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: Right, see that? I don't know. That's the one thing 255 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 3: ni l that the whole topic has has been kept 256 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 3: pretty quiet as far as what players get paid. 257 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: Quite honestly, right, it's still like he's a true freshman, right, 258 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: so he's still an eighteen year old and he was 259 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: getting paid. It's that Carson Beck who's twenty five still 260 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: playing quarterback. 261 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I mean, you definitely feel for 262 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: the person in that situation because you're right they're going 263 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: to because again most I think another reason you feel 264 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 3: bad for college players is two percent of them are 265 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: going to go on to the pro in their sport. 266 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 3: The rest are done after college. So that if you're 267 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: in your last year of college and you make that mistake, 268 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: that's your last memory of you playing that sport, because 269 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 3: if you're not going to go pro, So that that 270 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 3: also adds to it. 271 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: I am reading here that Caiden Boozer was paid, Now 272 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. Seven hundred and forty seven thousand 273 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: dollars that's evaluation. 274 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: Okay, it's seven hundred and forty seven thousand dollars more 275 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 3: than I got paid? 276 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: Is it two point two million? Is that? Taylor? How 277 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: does this work? Explain this to me? 278 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: What is Caden Boozer getting paid by Duke University? Because 279 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: it is absolutely gon to determine whether or not I 280 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: feel bad. 281 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 4: So the problem with nil is none of those numbers 282 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: are public with what the schools are actually paying. What 283 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 4: you're looking at is on three and on three just 284 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 4: takes like a formula of like how many social media 285 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 4: followers you have your reach, and then they put a 286 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: what they think your valuation would be? 287 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: Wow, oh oh yeah. 288 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 3: And plus there's added there's now the revenue share that 289 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 3: comes from the school money that they get, and then 290 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: there's nil deal. So I mean it's tough to ever 291 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 3: know the true value of what somebody is getting paid. 292 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: I think the other reason people probably aren't going to 293 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: feel as bad. You can sprinkle in Duke, you could 294 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: factor in the money. But also he's Carlos Boozer's son. 295 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: He's lived a white charmed life. 296 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: You know. 297 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 298 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's amazing what reasons we choose to have for 299 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: either feeling bad or not feeling bad. 300 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: Mike, you missed out, man, Jesus Christ, you have a 301 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: million followers, man. 302 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, listen, I'm I'm happy the players are 303 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: getting paid. Don't anybody look at me and say, oh god, 304 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: he's jealous of those guys. He doesn't think that. I 305 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 3: absolutely think they should get paid. I'm happy they're getting paid. 306 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: But it does make every athlete like me and those 307 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: that are like me that didn't get paid think about 308 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: what could have been when we were in college. 309 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: Of course, why wouldn't you. 310 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: Let's play the sounds here from Kaid and Boozer after 311 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: the game, here being asked about what happened on that 312 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: final plot great er was going through your mind in 313 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: that last. 314 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: Turned the ball over? Should have been shown with the ball. 315 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 2: Team season. 316 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: What did coach Sire said before enough time out, before 317 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: you guys were inbounding the ball there, we knew that 318 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: they're going. 319 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 3: To be sure. 320 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: I mean, that's uh, that's pretty remarkable, Mike. And now 321 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: I feel that, yes, oh. 322 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 3: I mean just you. But you're you're right. I don't 323 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: care how you were brought up, who your dad was. 324 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 3: I mean that's something that you as an individual have 325 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: to live with, as you said, have to wake up 326 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 3: every day. I mean, I d probably can't wait till 327 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: the season starts next year, so you can kind of 328 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 3: wash that because this is the last that was the 329 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 3: last play of the season. He's got to go through 330 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: the entire offseason thinking that that knocked them out of 331 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 3: the tournament. And and obviously it's like football. You know, you 332 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: sit there and you look at one plane, You're like, 333 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: oh my god, that cost you. There are plenty of 334 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 3: plays that you can look at that say cost you, 335 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 3: but one that's like that, or the end of a 336 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: football game, like I said, a drop pass or a 337 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 3: cought ball or whatever, it all magnifies on that one 338 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: play when it really isn't one play. 339 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: It's a great point by you because as a former athlete, 340 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: what you want to do to get that bad taste 341 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: out of your mouth is play the next day. 342 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 2: And he's got to wait an entire offseason here, you know, 343 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: Oh you do. 344 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 3: I mean all all the training, all the offseason training, 345 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 3: all the preseason practices, You're gonna be thinking about that play. 346 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: I mean until you start a new season. 347 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, Taylor's wheelhouse is well, it's North Carolina or it's 348 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: it's anti Duke. Have you seen what's happened here with 349 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: John Shire Taylor? Because people are starting to question Josh. 350 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: You never want to be the guy who replaces the guy. 351 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: And this is the reason why Shire has done a 352 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: fine job, but he has lost three big games. Now 353 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: when people are starting to question whether John Shire should 354 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: be the head coach Duke. 355 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: I love it. 356 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 4: And what people are really questioning is if Shire can't 357 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 4: win with these rosters, what rosters can you win with? 358 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: Maybe he needs to scrappy roster. 359 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 5: Maybe he needs a bunch of you know, two stars 360 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 5: to come up and play together. 361 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: Yes, like the miracle on ice or something. 362 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's it's it's again like in football, 363 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 3: when you have a successful coach but you haven't gotten 364 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: over the top. Who are you gonna get? Who are 365 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: you gonna get that that's better? We're talking about the 366 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 3: North Carolina job opening up and the Arizona coach maybe 367 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: going there. Well, Arizona is a better program than North 368 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 3: Carolina right now, So why would that coach leave now? 369 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 3: Is it more prestigious to win a national title if 370 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 3: you're a North Carolina head coach in Arizona head coach? 371 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: I don't know. You're raising the trophy either way, you know. 372 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: And and so it's kind of a weird, weird situation 373 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: with that. 374 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: It's all blurred because we don't know what jobs are 375 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: important to certain people. The jobs aren't the same as 376 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: they used to be. So like Kirk would not leave 377 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: Indiana for Alabama, he just wouldn't right now. 378 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: No, no, no, he absolutely would not. And and again 379 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 3: he's got he's got a national championship. So it's like, 380 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 3: where is your program? 381 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: Right? Uh? 382 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: Taylor wants Duke to get rid of Shire and wants 383 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: Carolina to hire Shire. 384 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 2: How about that, higher sire? 385 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 4: Yes, So he betrayed my confidence there when I whispered 386 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 4: in his ear, I said, is there a number for 387 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 4: Shire to go to Carolina? Like if you said Shire, well, 388 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 4: quadruple your your salary. 389 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: Ubert Davis would coach at Duke for free. I mean. 390 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean listen, and while while I understand the 391 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: question Taylor, it's it's no one school is gonna especially 392 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 3: blue bloods like that, is going to offer that much 393 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: more than the other school. I mean, hey, they're just 394 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 3: not going to do it. And be Duke would come 395 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: up with money as well, not a I'm quadrupling the money. 396 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: That's not going to happen. There's just not going to 397 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: be that much disparity. 398 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 2: It is funny that people don't realize Arizona. 399 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 1: There's a gap here might between the last time Arizona 400 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: was this good and now and there's a whole generation 401 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,440 Speaker 1: that they don't understand that Arizona at one point was 402 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: one of the premier jobs in America. 403 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: Holy smokes, Lude Olsen, I mean, wow, yes, so true. 404 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 3: National Championship with Mike Bibby Yan. Yeah exactly. 405 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking at this NFL coaches picture from the owners 406 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: meeting and it dawned on me that unless they're wearing 407 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: a hat, a headset, or advisor, I don't recognize any 408 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: of these guys. 409 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, there has definitely been a shift. 410 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 5: Uh. 411 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,360 Speaker 3: The one thing I do recognize is head coaches now 412 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: are in some of the best shape we've seen a 413 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 3: collective group of head coaches. Now you have to kind 414 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 3: of take out Andy Reid, Mike McCarthy, maybe Todd Bowles 415 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 3: as well, but you look at the rest of the 416 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 3: coaches and they're they're there, look like they're in pretty 417 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 3: good shape. You know. Well, we always sit there and 418 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: talk about a royal rumble and that Dan Campbell would 419 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: win all the time. 420 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, you know, yeah. 421 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 3: Demiko Ryan, I mean you got yeah, you got to. 422 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 3: You got a few in. 423 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: There, Yes, but I don't recognize any of them unless yeah. 424 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: It is true, it is true. Didn't they just have 425 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 3: their day drinking day I heard Jacob. 426 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 2: I mean the whole thing is a reason for a vacation. 427 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 3: It is, it is, Yeah, it's it's all a darty. 428 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 3: It's a day party because they all can't stay up 429 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: that late. They're all up late at the combo and 430 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 3: now they don't have to be up late. 431 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 2: You're familiar with that. 432 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, yeah, when's the last time you day drank? 433 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: I only prefer to day drink. Is. I don't stay 434 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 3: out at night. I mean, my god, I'm in bed early, 435 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 3: so I really only day drink now. And uh yeah, 436 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 3: and I don't day drink much. Boy, times have changed. Wow. 437 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the coach that's like sneaky that you know 438 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: you put him in a royal rumble. Everyone's gonna say 439 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Everyone's gonna say Mike Rabel. Everyone's gonna say 440 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans. Who's a sneaky, strong coach shoes who might 441 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: make it out of that thing and be the winner. 442 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of who that guy might be. 443 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Salah. 444 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 3: Sala Salah. That's that's a good one right. 445 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,679 Speaker 2: There, Siriani. 446 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean he looks I gotta be honest, he looks 447 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: a little thicker some cheese steaks, bad Gino's. 448 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think? 449 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I still think 450 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 3: you'd get tossed out of the ring. Sala, Sala was 451 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: a good one. 452 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald looks like he can hold his own. 453 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 3: I was I was thinking Mike McDonald. I was gonna 454 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 3: say him. I don't know his dimensions, but he does 455 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: look like he can hold his own. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 456 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: But he's not there. 457 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: I still think it's it's between Campbell, Ryan's and and 458 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 3: Vrabel unless someone knows some real wrestling moves and can 459 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: get him out of the ring. Other than that, there 460 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: are some coaches that look okay, but they're just kind 461 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: of kind of older, like you know, Jim and John Harbaugh. 462 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 3: You know, hardball is always Jim's always limping around. 463 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he is. I'm trying to think of the 464 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: coaches first out. I mean, it's got to be Lafleur 465 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: nos all. Yeah, just toss him out of the ring. 466 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: How about how about the fight I don't think he's 467 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 3: very big, but the fightiness of Ben Jonson. 468 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yeah, I could see Ben Johnson. He's got 469 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: some crazy underneath he. 470 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 3: Does. He definitely does get him on the pod. 471 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he hasn't followed up Mike. Yea, he's got listen, 472 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: Ben Johnson. Mike was a walk on at North Carolina. 473 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 1: Taylor was a walk on at North Carolina. Somehow Taylor 474 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: got in contact with Ben Johnson. They had a nice exchange, 475 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: and Taylor will not follow up to Ben Johnson offered 476 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: to come on the show, just not now, which is 477 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: a classic move to get out of, you know, being 478 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: a guest on a show. 479 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 2: Sure, but you got to follow up with Ben Johnson. 480 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 2: The time is now. I mean he's gonna be too 481 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: busy soon. 482 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. 483 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 4: My problem is my problem is introducing my friends to 484 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: my other friends. 485 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: Yeah me, Well, listen, that's always that's a fear. 486 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: Everyone in this business. 487 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: You brought that on yourself, Stude though. The Taylor, the 488 00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 3: position you're in, Uh, you have to follow up on those, right, Yeah. 489 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 2: You have to because I'm going to fire you, is 490 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 2: what he says. 491 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 3: It's kind of your job. 492 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: So you're not friends with Ben Johnson, You're friendlier with me. 493 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: So what you're scared of doing is introducing Ben Johnson, 494 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: who's not a friend to your friend and your boss. 495 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 4: You're saying Ben Johnson's not my friend. You don't have 496 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 4: any proof that Ben Johnson isn't my friend. 497 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: I do have proof. He's never been on the show. 498 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 5: Peter's mc collins. 499 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 3: Like, listen, I fear every time Andy Reid comes on 500 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: with all of us, and he still comes on. Mike, 501 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 3: so you is a friend of mine? 502 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Lady Taylor's you know, worries to rest because Andy 503 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 5: Reid still comes. 504 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 2: On with us, right, and you still have a relationship 505 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 2: with Andy Reid? Correct? 506 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 3: I think, Taylor. I think everybody understands what you're getting 507 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 3: with Stu, so I think they're they're willing to put 508 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,239 Speaker 3: up with it. 509 00:24:59,320 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mike. 510 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 4: I think Aaron with Aaron Boone, I'm more worried about mikeye, 511 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 4: if we're being honestly, Wait. 512 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: You have an intimate to Aaron Boone? You do have? 513 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: You had a conversation with Aaron Boone? 514 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 4: Yep, I would consider friendly with Aaron Boone. 515 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 2: You're friendly with Aaron Boone and. 516 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: You haven't got and you haven't tried to get him 517 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: on the show because Mike, he's going to fire him 518 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 4: when he comes on. 519 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 5: First off, I don't want to fire Aaron Boone. 520 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 3: I want to fire his boss. 521 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: No, no, no, Mike. The amazing part of this is 522 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: the guy who wants to fire Aaron Boone is Taylor. 523 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 4: No, no, no, He's a pawn in this game. 524 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: Amazed. I am amazed that you are somewhat friendly with 525 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson and Aaron Boone and you've gotten neither one 526 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 3: on the show. 527 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Friend Collins, Now, Mac Collins is a real friend. I mean, 528 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: we just had to travel out to the super Bowl 529 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: to see him. 530 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah barefoot. 531 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: Because go in the radio row wasn't enough. Taylor had 532 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: to drive another hour to get the media. 533 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, go ah, sitting next. 534 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 5: To my sweaty ass. 535 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: He just he's in a weird place right now. He 536 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: just he's counting the days he needs Arizona to lose. 537 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: Lose, blickly. So Tommy Lloyd could be the next coach 538 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: at North Carolina. That's all he cares about. 539 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 3: Man, that would be amazing. 540 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, would it be? I mean, I don't know, it's 541 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: still Carolina, right, I guess. 542 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I know. But you just wonder how much 543 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 3: weight that carries when you have a team, a Final 544 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: four team, right now, that you're coaching weird. 545 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: I mean Lane Kiffin left before the playoffs. 546 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. We did. 547 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: What a weird time we are really is? 548 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: You know what it's you think the grass is greener 549 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: and sometimes it's not. Ce Brian Kelly. 550 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, unnecessary shot at Brian Kelly there. 551 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he's just necessary. He's just he's just 552 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: the latest coach that I understand the reasons he left, 553 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 3: but it blew up in his face. 554 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 555 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: Are there any rule changes that you think should be 556 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: installed into the NFL for next season? 557 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh? What were so? We did discuss what were some 558 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: of those? I do think that they should implement the 559 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 3: fourth and fifteen or twenty rule for an on side 560 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 3: kick because the on side kick recovering the on side 561 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 3: kick is about as as rare as missing an old 562 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 3: extra point when it was put at the three yard line. 563 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 3: They moved the extra point back. Now you get misses 564 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 3: of the extra point. It's not a gimmey, where an 565 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 3: on side kick is almost a gimme. So I do 566 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 3: think you should make it a play, make it like 567 00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 3: a fourth and fifteen or fourth and twenty. Make it 568 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 3: difficult to do, but make it more that would definitely 569 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 3: get made more than recovering an on side kick. I'm amazed. 570 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 3: And while this will come across as a shot on 571 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: kickers that there aren't better on side kicks, I mean well, 572 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, the kickers have time during practice, obviously 573 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: they practice their kicks, but I mean try different stuff, 574 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 3: experiment on the on side kick. And maybe I'm talking 575 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 3: about on my ass, and maybe there isn't any other 576 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: right way to really do it, but boy, I try 577 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: and come up with something. 578 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: I'm with you, it seems like no one's explored it. 579 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, yeah, all the kickers will be 580 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 3: mad at me. 581 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: How do you feel about it? Yes, David A. 582 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 5: What and. 583 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: What do you make of? 584 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: Are we headed towards backup officiating officials here in the NFL? 585 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 3: Boy that I had heard a stat that they're the 586 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: lowest paid of the of the four majors, which which 587 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: really is somewhat amazing. And you know, the the NFL 588 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 3: brass has told people to start looking for replacements, and 589 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: I don't know if they mean that or if they're 590 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: using that as a negotiation tool, like, hey, we're going 591 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: to do this, you know, unless you guys agree to 592 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 3: something and listen. Overall, I don't remember how the officiating was. 593 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 3: Everything is hung up on that fail Mary, you know, 594 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 3: play everybody looks at that and it's like, oh my god, 595 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: these guys stink. But I quite honestly, I don't. This 596 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: is what twenty twelve. I don't recall how overall the 597 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 3: officiating was right where where? Now like in baseball, you're 598 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 3: seeing you're seeing home played umpires getting getting abs to death. 599 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: Yes, I love it, it's great. 600 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 1: I don't think people realize how hard it is to 601 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 1: officiate that game though. 602 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 603 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 3: I mean, and Warrio Suarez for Cincinnati had two challenges 604 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: in a row, and he was so quick with him. 605 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: The first one was a third of an inch to 606 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 3: where he was correct a third of an inch. The 607 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 3: second one was one point one inch. I mean, that's amazing. 608 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 3: And I think without a doubt, catchers and pictures or 609 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560 Speaker 3: pitchers are allowed to call it, and they've called it 610 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 3: by far the least, and they should. It should be 611 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: the catcher or the hitter. They're right there, they have 612 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: the better eyes. But there's also the system is great. 613 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: It's like tennis. You should put it on the big 614 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: board and people cheer for it. You see it right away. 615 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: And how much do people love to cheer for authority 616 00:30:56,600 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: being wrong? I mean they love cheering when when the 617 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: when the home plate umpire got the call wrong. 618 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: That first pitch missed by a third of an inch 619 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 5: and C. B. Buckner the umpire gets it called wrong, 620 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 5: and you know, on the next pitch, he's like, you 621 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 5: know what you want to you want to call me out? Fine, 622 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 5: and he forgot that he could do it again, and 623 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 5: he goes like gives him a whole inch outside and 624 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 5: then he's like, no, I could do it again. 625 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you're up like a third of an inch. 626 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 3: You're like, well, that's exactly right. Because you know how 627 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 3: ms are different umps. When there was no ABS, they 628 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: had their own strike zone. Some called them lower, some 629 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 3: called them higher, some had bigger, some had smaller. They 630 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 3: and batters knew it and catchers knew it, just just 631 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: like NFL. You know which officials call holding more past 632 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 3: interference more, you know the cruise. But now A B. 633 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 3: S has kind of taken that away. 634 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 2: I kind of like the mystery. 635 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I do of when you know what the 636 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: strike zone is going to be on a particular night. 637 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: I like I like them, I like the iuman element 638 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: of it. I don't like this, what are we going 639 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: to talk about? 640 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 3: I love when they show it on the screen and 641 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: show it on the big screen, just like in tennis. 642 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: It's it's the best review system we have in sports now, 643 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 3: in baseball and in tennis. 644 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 4: Yes, And it's got a great countdown to where it's 645 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 4: like three two one, it reveal it's like wow, yeah, 646 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: and it's quick. 647 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: It's quick, you know. In football there could be is 648 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 3: the ball possessed? Is the foot in bounds? Is a 649 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 3: hand underneath the ball? And in baseball and in tennis, 650 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 3: it's easy. There's a square box in baseball, did the 651 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: ball break it? In tennis? Is the ball on the 652 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 3: line or not the line? They can zoom in, they 653 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 3: show it, it's and boom, it's over and you move on. 654 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 5: And the underrated part of it is them showing you 655 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 5: not only that you missed it, but by how much? 656 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 3: How much? Yeah, that you were this wrong? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 657 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: very true. 658 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I'm starting to hate sports. 659 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 3: Ah. So it's like, as someone who played it, I 660 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 3: was always one that I wanted the rest to swallow 661 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 3: the whistle in the towards the end of the game. Right. 662 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 3: But the more you think about it, the more it's like, 663 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 3: don't you want consistency? What they what they call early? 664 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 3: Do you want them to call late? You don't want 665 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 3: them to be, you know, a touchy tiki tack file. 666 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,320 Speaker 3: I would like. I would like tough calls early as 667 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 3: well as late. I don't want tiki tack calls. I 668 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 3: hate those. 669 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 2: You don't want tiki tak towards the end is what 670 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 2: you're saying. 671 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 3: I don't want tiki tack at all during the game, 672 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 3: quite honestly, unless unless I'm being held and they're not 673 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 3: calling it, which was very rare. 674 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 2: What you being held? 675 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was no reason to hold me.