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Speaker 1: All right our two Sean Hannity Show eight hundred nine

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Speaker 1: people that were there in the room, that we're a

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Speaker 1: his new book out just today. It's on Amazon dot com,

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Speaker 1: Hannity dot com. It's now in bookstores everywhere. If you

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Speaker 1: from our friends of Premiere Books at Jared Kushner's signbook

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's Jared Kushner signbook dot com. Jared joins

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Speaker 1: us now, sir, how are you good to be with you? Sean?

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Speaker 1: Doing very very well. Thank you for having me. You

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Speaker 1: don't love interviews, do you. I was never really one

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Speaker 1: of the fun people, so you know, luckily President Trump

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Speaker 1: I won't talk publicly too much about it, but I did.

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Speaker 1: The day was announced that you and Novanca were going

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Speaker 1: an effort to destroy your father in law, and they

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Speaker 1: want as much collateral damage as possible. Could I ever

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Speaker 1: I think you understated it. I don't even think you

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Speaker 1: listening to your intro, I was thinking that two things

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Speaker 1: over the last years. Which is number one, Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: and his administration got more things accomplished during his four

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Speaker 1: reasons I felt that it was so important to write

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Speaker 1: like to be next to President Trump and in the

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Speaker 1: But then again, I'd watch your show at night and

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Speaker 1: the name of false security. That is authoritarianism, that is socialism, Marxism, communism,

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Speaker 1: But I recall reading sometime back I went to seminary.

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Speaker 1: This was some time back that he said, the most

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Speaker 1: Most of the time, we are not voting between good

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Speaker 1: however they view this, that's what I'm talking about, keeping

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to run, but there will be choices.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes you're talking about the lesser of two evils. That

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Speaker 1: is always a factor sometimes. And did I love John McCain.

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Speaker 1: Was he my top presidential choice? Absolutely? Not same with

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Speaker 1: and we were the ones that vetted him the hardest

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Speaker 1: when nobody else dared do it. Anyway, I appreciate the call.

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Speaker 1: God bless you and check in with us often. Renee,

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Speaker 1: We appreciate you being with us eight hundred nine four

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Speaker 1: one Sean. If you want to be a part of

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Speaker 1: the program, Ari Fleischer's coming up at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, quick break, right back