1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: Executive producer Paris Hilton brings back the hit podcast How 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Men Think, and that's good news for anyone that is 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: confused by men, which is basically everyone. It's real talk, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: straight from the source. How Men Think podcast is exactly 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: what we need to figure them out. It's going to 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: be fun and formative and probably a bit scary at 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: times because we're literally going inside the minds of men. 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: Listen to How Men Think on the I Heart Radio app, 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Make sure 10 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: to check out Drink Champs, your number one music podcast. 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: On the Black Effect podcast Network, host n O r 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: E and d J E f N sat down with 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: artists and icon Yea, which Vulture called one most significant interviews. 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: I literally had to go like Thanos and I don't 15 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: want to have to be the villain. But when I 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: went and did the Donda thing, YA returned and anybody 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: had to sit back and watch the real leader. Check 18 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: out Drink Champs conversation with Yea and many more legendary 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: artists each and every Friday on the I Heart Radio app, 20 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: I'm Colleen with Join me the host of Eating Wall 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: Broke podcast, while I eat a meal created by self 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: made entrepreneurs, influencers and celebrities over a meal they once 24 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: ate when they were broke. Today I have the lovely 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: aj Crimson, the official Princess of comfin Asia Kind, and 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: Asia is the professor. We're here on Eating Wall Broke 27 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: and today I'm gonna break down my meal that got 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: me through a time when I was broken. Listen to 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: Eating While Broke on the I Heart Radio app, on 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. As the 31 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: sun began to tuck away for winter, so did many 32 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: Portlanders who had spent the summer out protesting. As the 33 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: days grew shorter, a shrunken but dedicated group of activists 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: continued to pound the streets in their call for justice. 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: The early days of the protests had been fueled in 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: part by the massive lockdown and the layoffs that came 37 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: with it. As the pandemic wore on, economic collapse contributed 38 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: to street activism in new ways. Portland has been in 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: a housing state of emergency since two thousand fifteen, as 40 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: it was declared by former Mayor Charlie Hales and extended 41 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: by his successors in the city council again in two 42 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen for two more years. For a long time, 43 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: thousands of Portland's had lived one paycheck away from homelessness, 44 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: and in thousands more found themselves on the edge of 45 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: a cliff. To stave off disaster, a pandemic eviction moratorium 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: was adopted by local lawmakers. It included no forgiveness or 47 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: grace period from mr rent. This meant that while you 48 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't get kicked out of your home for missing rent, 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 1: all that unpaid rent still stacked up. At the time 50 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: of recording, eighty nine thousand households in Oregon are subject 51 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:56,839 Speaker 1: to eviction when the state's moratorium expires, owing more than 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,079 Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy eight million dollars in collect of 53 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: back rent. Now, evicting all of those people would cost 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: the state three billion dollars, eight times more than the 55 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: total back rent owed. Near the end of the whole 56 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: situation wound up coming to a head in the battle 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: over a single property, the red House on North Mississippi Avenue. 58 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: Coming up next is a lane Portland has spent the 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: last decade basking in its image. Is a liberal playground 60 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: of bird stickers and local war foodies. However, this hides 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the concerted destruction by developers and city planners of Portland's 62 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: black community in the Albina District. During that same time, 63 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: the area was redlined for blacks, with local government working 64 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: in concert with real estate agents and banks to guarantee 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: black people virtually had no options to live outside the neighborhood. 66 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: Following the Vanport floods of ninety eight, local lawmakers and 67 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: real estate interests coordinated to ensure that thousands of black 68 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: individuals and families suddenly without a home could look nowhere 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: else but a small section of inner North and Northeast 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: Portland if they were to live within city limits. The 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: mostly European An immigrant populated neighborhood flipped almost overnight, with 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: many other residents quickly fleeing the area to avoid living 73 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 1: near black people. Shortly after the flood, close to sevent 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: of the state's black population lived in the Albina District. Consequently, 75 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: the neighborhood has been the nucleus to much of the 76 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: city's black community for generations. The Portland Police Bureau conducted 77 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: years of targeted harassment aimed at the Albina community. Years 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: of blight, systemic disinvestment and policing have led to a 79 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: mass exodus of Blacks from the central Albina core. Many 80 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: left to the fringes of the city in search of 81 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 1: lower rents. As North Northeast Portland suddenly became prime real estate, quickly, 82 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: the place so many called home was eroding before their eyes. 83 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: Here the snack Mamas on the gentrification of Albina and 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: some history of North Northeast Portland. Yeah it's hard, turned like, yeah, 85 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: it's really hard to watch the change. Sometimes I get 86 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: really angry. It's hard. It's hard to watch it upsetting. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: But everything looks all nice and fancy, but nobody knows 88 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: how it got that way. Emmanuel Hospital, I mean, fucking break, 89 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, yeah, it's nice to 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: have a hospital there, it really is. I mean, but 91 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: you could have cleared the fucking freeway stuff you're right there, 92 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: I mean, get Motor Center out of there and put 93 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: a hospital right there. Like, I don't even remember what 94 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: was there before Motor Center was, but I'm sure you 95 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: know the quarter they changed. Figure it out, you know 96 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: what I mean. But your tearn families and homes who 97 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: lived there for I was like my my son's grandmother. 98 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: She lived on thirty three and Prescott, right there on 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 1: the corner. She's like in her late nineties. It came 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: in pretty much still that house from up underneath her 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: and they're always the blocks with all the you know, 102 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: moved into like a hotel like apartment thing and died 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: shortly after that. And it's like, it's it's upsetting when 104 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: I drive by and see and I'm like, God, damn, 105 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: I don't draw my car through that house, you know, 106 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: But it's upsetting the way they do things and the 107 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: way they you know, re home people in that, you know, 108 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: the wounds run deep. In the last decade, homeownership for 109 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: black Portlanders has fallen, not risen. Perhaps more striking is 110 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: their representation in the houseless population. About seven point two 111 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: percent of Multnomah Counties population is black, but according to 112 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: their most recent point in time count, which was released 113 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: in pre COVID times, it showed that black Portlander's accounted 114 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: for more than sixteen percent of the houseless in the area. 115 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: A policy adopted by the City of Portland, designed to 116 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: give residents with historic ties to inner North and Northeast 117 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,239 Speaker 1: helps illustrate how deep the need is. The policy gives 118 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: first DIBs at select new apartments being developed by the 119 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 1: Housing Bureau, assists existing homeowners in the area with maintenance 120 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: and foster's home ownership opportunities. When applications for the first 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: round of units opened up, in thousands applied to live 122 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: in the handful of units. More complexes have been built 123 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: since and dozens more served for the home repair and 124 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: ownership opportunities. But every time applications open, the systems are 125 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: flooded with people just hoping to make the weight list. However, 126 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: for people that qualify, some feel like the program does 127 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: not go far enough to remediate the damage that was 128 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: done to the community. The snack mom must continue. Why 129 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: even that program has problems since it limits the ownership 130 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: rights of the family that it helps to return. Yeah, 131 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: I entered into this program for the Blama County did 132 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: UM for people who lived in North Portland and we're 133 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: kind of pushed out, so I entered that program. I'm 134 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: just like, this is fucking complete bullshit. You're asking people 135 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: who have been kicked out of their homes because of 136 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: you guys have great fucking credit to get into this 137 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: program and to um be able to buy a home 138 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: on their own ship. But yet you own the land, 139 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: they can own the home. Like fuck, go funk yourself, 140 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, that's what it is. They own the 141 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: people back. Yeah you can't. You can't do they own 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: that land. You own the home, mind you when they 143 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: get a piece of that money when you sell your 144 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: home because they helped to get into there, and you know, yeah, 145 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: so you can't do any work on the land or 146 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: or tear the house down and build, and you can't 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: do what you want to do. That's their fucking land, 148 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, and you're just owning the home on it. 149 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: So it's not actually nothing people get back absolutely yeah, 150 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: and so and so, like you have choices between um 151 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: all these little houses or our little buildings or town 152 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: homes or whatever. Like there was nothing that was over 153 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: like three two bedrooms I think two or three bedrooms 154 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,119 Speaker 1: on any of those lists. Because I've got a family 155 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: of five, you know, I'm just like, fuck, like none 156 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: of that should share for me, Like what's what's the deal? 157 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: Can I build on it? No? You can't build anything 158 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: else on it? What the fuck? You know? Finding out 159 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: that that's their property, you just owned the building for 160 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 1: that point being you know, and and yeah, I'm just like, 161 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: but all these properties are certain properties, you know, because 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: it's just what they own that you get to live on. Yeah, basically, 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, this is fucking bullshit, dude. You know, 164 00:08:58,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: I never made it to my second appointment. I was 165 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: like out of here. Local activist Regina Rage also spoke 166 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: on the ongoing gentrification in Portland in specific relation to 167 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: a certain red painted house on Mississippi Avenue that was 168 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: owned by the same black family for more than fifty years. 169 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: That house would become one of the main focal points 170 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: in Portland protests. Yeah, Mississippi Street is located in a 171 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: neighborhood in Portland that was previously an all black neighborhood 172 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: and is at the very moment being gentrified and developed. 173 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: And um, black families are being forced out into East 174 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Portland and Southeast Portland because of this gentrification. And so 175 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: like for me specifically, UM, I like remember the lot 176 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: that we're all occupying, and it's been empty my entire life. 177 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: And now because of this pro tests, they want to 178 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: develop it into something else. They're gonna donate it and 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 1: then they're gonna put higher rises on top of it. Condos. 180 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: You know, Um, the neighborhood looks vastly different from when 181 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: I was growing up. I don't recognize it. Sometimes I'm 182 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: driving and I just really don't recognize it. And UM, 183 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: that's what makes it important to the community is this 184 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: is one of the last black families in this neighborhood 185 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: and they are doing everything they can to remain this neighborhood. 186 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: And previously they were displaced from Vamport as well another 187 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: neighborhood in Portland's that was destroyed. Um, and all of 188 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: it is tied to white supremacy in what we're fighting against. 189 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: M I'm Colleen with join me the host of Eating 190 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 1: Wall Broke podcast while I eat a meal created by 191 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: self made entrepreneurs, influencers, and celebrities over a meal they 192 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: once ate when they were broke. Today, I have the 193 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: lovely aj Crimson, the official Princess of comfin Asia Kidding 194 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: and Assia. This is the professor. We're here on Eating 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: Wall Broke and today I'm gonna break down my meal 196 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: that got me through a time when I was broke. 197 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: Listen to Eating Wall Broke on the I Heart Radio app, 198 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: on Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts the 199 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: art world. It is essentially a money laundering business. The 200 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: best fakes are still hanging up people's walls. You know, 201 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: they don't even know or suspect that they're fakes. I'm 202 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: at like Baldwin and this is a podcast about deception, 203 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: greed and forgery in the art world. You knew that 204 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: the painting was fake. Um Listen to Art Frauds starting 205 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: February one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts 206 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Robert lamp 207 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: and I'm Joe McCormick, and where the hosts of the 208 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: science podcast Stuff to Blow Your Mind, where every week 209 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: we get to explore some of the weirdest questions in 210 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: the universe, like if sci fi teleportation was possible, how 211 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: would it square with the multitudes of organisms that inhabit 212 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: our human bodies? Can we find evidence of emotions in 213 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: animals like bees, ants, and crayfish? 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Listen 222 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the I Heart 223 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 224 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: Here's Donovan Smith. The Red House, All Mississippi, has belonged 225 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: to the Kinney family for over sixty five years. William 226 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: and Pauline Kenney sold their house to their son, William Jr. 227 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: And his wife in their financial Dominoes began when the 228 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: owner's son got into a car accident on a suspended 229 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: license ase of teen in two thousand two. The driver 230 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: of the car died, the passenger was injured, and William 231 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: the third was ultimately convicted of a felony. To cover 232 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: legal fees, the Kenney family took out a balloon loan 233 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: against the house. The son, William X. Nice, was since 234 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: to five years first and doven old attention before being 235 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: transitioned to the state prison at eighteen. Over time, due 236 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,239 Speaker 1: to interests and expenses piling up, as well as inadequate 237 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: legal representation. The Kinney family home, now one of the 238 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: last black owned homes on North Mississippi, ended up in 239 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: foreclosure because the foreclosure process started prior to the pandemic. 240 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: In September, or judge ruled that the eviction of the 241 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: Kenneys could proceed despite the eviction moratorium. That month, the 242 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Moltnoma County Shars stormed into the Reddit House with rifles 243 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: and evicted four members of the family. After the initial eviction, 244 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: some Portlanders began gathering around the Red House to support 245 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: the Kennies. They decried the forced eviction, especially amist economic 246 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: crisis and the pandemic. Some even camped outside the property, 247 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: and then on December five, the Portland Police Bureau and 248 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: County Sheriffs arrived yet again to clear out residents, campers 249 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: and render the home on Mississippi Avenue uninhabited Alsas are. 250 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: An independent Portland journalists was on the ground when the 251 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: tide turned against the police eviction team. Red House will 252 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: where to be here? Um? You know, Red Houses is 253 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: like such a wild story in so many ways. Um. 254 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: That morning, oh my god, it was like not even 255 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: nine thirty in the morning, and I was just like, 256 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: holy sh it, Like everyone just went like full Paris 257 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: on p PP. It was not even ten o'clock in 258 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: the morning. I was like, what am I witnessing right now? 259 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: This is wild? But I think that's fucking huge because 260 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: you know, for almost two hundred days, we've seen people, 261 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: we've you know, we've seen activists and protesters play nothing 262 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: but defense. And even the defense is very like it's 263 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: usually very childish and comical, you know, which is what's 264 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: so fucking powerful. You know, they throw bouncy balls and 265 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: water balloons filled with glitter at the cops, and the 266 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: cops is reaction. It's just like, you know, it's absurd. UM. 267 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: So seeing that kind and even even the morning of 268 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Red House, that was still defense, but it was a 269 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: different kind of defense. It was hands on, aggressive, don't 270 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: funk with us kind of defense. And you know, it's 271 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: the first time I've seen anything like that. UM. And 272 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: the fact that it was done for that reason, I 273 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: think also just goes to show like what the community 274 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: is about. UM. Seeing people care that much, it was incredible. Um. 275 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: There were people literally fighting the cops, and I think 276 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: this is one of the few, like literally fighting the cops, 277 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: um to defend a family that was you know, they 278 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 1: were trying to force out of their home. And um, 279 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: I think you know and John red House. But like, 280 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: even like leading up to Red House, there's been UM, 281 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot more attention and a 282 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 1: lot more care and focus on houselessness. Activist Regina Rage 283 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: also witnessed the December raid. I was there at five. 284 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: They called me at four, and I got there right 285 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: after in the morning, Yes, in the morning. Um. Initially 286 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: it was just me there. Um. And then I think 287 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: by the time daylight hit and Coyn was there, there 288 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:46,199 Speaker 1: was maybe like fifty people, all like crunched in like 289 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: this one tiny side yard that the only place we 290 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 1: were allowed to be at. And at that point I 291 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: noticed that white people were allowed to stand in that 292 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: alley and I wasn't. Every time I stepped in the alleyway, 293 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: they the police charged at me and threatened to arrest me. 294 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: And um, I started yelling about how like they were 295 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: blatantly allowing these white people to walk back and forth 296 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: in this alleyway but I wasn't. And other people started yelling, 297 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: and then soon we were all just standing in the 298 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: street and the police we're rushing us. UM. At one 299 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: point they mazed us all and UM forced us all 300 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: back onto the side yard, and then we rushed again. 301 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: A couple of people got arrested, and they at one 302 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: point decided to pull back, and the sheriff's left first, 303 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: and as they started to lead, I started running down 304 00:18:55,560 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: the hill towards the cop cars, and everybody else followed 305 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: and it escalated from there. Under a hell of water bottles, rocks, 306 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: paint balloons, and other random projectiles, police retreated from the area. 307 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: The couts initially arrived around five am and were completely 308 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: gone by ten thirty. In the five hours they were present, 309 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: at least seven people were arrested, and the hasty retreat 310 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 1: several police cars were damaged, some by projectiles and one 311 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: due to an officer crashing his own cruise there into 312 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: another car. Regina describes what happened next. Um, the police 313 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 1: finally left. UM, we're chased off whatever, um, and we 314 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: just took down defense and started building them immediately. UM. Yeah, 315 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: and the police had destroyed all of what we had built. 316 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: That red house. It was like a weather proof um 317 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: living space for those individuals who were staying there as 318 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: well as like an event space. It was like very 319 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: very very nice and UM they destroyed it and UM, 320 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: so we took basically all the broken materials that they 321 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: created for us and used those to build barricades and UM. 322 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: When the barricades were up, we UM, we organized watch 323 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: and UM began calling for supplies to be brought in. 324 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: Like what happened. I do want to add what happened 325 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: with that barricade was just like organic and organic response 326 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: to being attacked by an enemy who literally does not 327 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: give a funk about your life. Like Regina and I 328 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: are both single mothers, you know what I'm saying, Like 329 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: they're out there gassing single mom at Lisa recounts the 330 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: mood after the cops were pushed out of the area. 331 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: Everyone was just kind of like on edge, like it 332 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: was a huge celebration, but everybody was like that they're 333 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: coming back and with force. They just got their asses 334 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: handed to them. There's absolutely no way they're just gonna 335 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, they're just gonna leave everyone. Everyone was ready 336 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: and everyone was waiting, and within minutes, you know, barricades 337 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: started to go up. UM, but they weren't even then, 338 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 1: like they weren't just like barricades. Um, were you at 339 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: a peakaz or any of the like the really really 340 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: barricaded knights and you know those nights were fucking sick. 341 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: But a lot of barricades like like they were really 342 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: cool and they were they served their purpose. But Redhouse, 343 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking like reinforced barricades and blockades like there were 344 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: powered tools, there was concrete being laid out like you know, 345 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 1: anything you could think of, um, And I think, uh, 346 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: you know a lot of that comes from practice and um, 347 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: you know you learn what you do wrong by you know, 348 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: testing things out. But I think the biggest change was, 349 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: like it was the passionate Hours after the barricades went 350 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: up narrowly re like, Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler made a 351 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: series of tweets decrying the eviction blockade and mischaracterizing the 352 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: eviction defense as a so called autonomous zone. He said, quote, 353 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm authorizing the Portland Police to use all lawful means 354 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: to end the illegal occupation on North Mississippi Avenue and 355 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: to hold those violating our community laws accountable. There will 356 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: be no autonomous zone in Portland, en quote. Nervous anticipation 357 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: loomed over everyone the first night inside the barricades. Behind 358 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: the multiple layers of reinforced barricades and impromptu call troops, 359 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: people anxiously waited to see if the police would show 360 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: up that first night, but slowly morning came and the 361 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 1: coast was clear. Over the next few days, the infrastructure grew, 362 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: bearricades grew more sophisticated. The Jankee caltrots made of scrooves 363 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: and garden hoses were replaced with wealthy rebar The food 364 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: donation area turned into a whole kitchen, and more and 365 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: more tents were put up in the streets around the 366 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: Red House. But as time went on and police didn't 367 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: show familiar problems of roads regarding people acting security. Here's 368 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: Regina and Um. I think that white people in this 369 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: movement often come into it with all white savior complex 370 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: and take up a lot of space and actually alienate 371 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: the black people that this movement is about. And that's 372 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: what happened during the barricade. There were a ton of 373 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: white cis gendered people running around UM behaving crazily, UM, 374 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: acting like cops. To be honest, Multiple people, some of 375 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: them children, were physically assaulted, putting chokehol shot at with 376 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: paintballs and kicked out of the Red House eviction defense 377 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: area for not having permission to use paint by large 378 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: men acting as self appointed security team. Problems with the 379 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: protest security occurred inportantly before, the most notable being the 380 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: truck driver assault, but smaller incidents took place throughout the 381 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: summer and fall. Are and been running around in tactical 382 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 1: gear trying to intimidate people into obedience and in some 383 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: cases using physical force has the same fundamental issue. People 384 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 1: criticqued police for the same problem of armed security. Essentially 385 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: acting ass cop is part of what got a black 386 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 1: teenager in Seattle's Capitol Hill. Occupied protests are child killed. 387 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: One phrase spray painting near the Red House was killed 388 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: the cop in your head, reflecting the protesters dissatisfaction with 389 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: this dynamic. When a group of people are attacking children 390 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: over graffiti, that's basically a mini police force, unaccountable armed 391 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: men in tactical gear. Part of police abolition is can 392 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: running policing dynamics found throughout your life, even at anti 393 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: police protests. The kill the cop in your head graffiti 394 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: at Red House was soon buffed and covered over by 395 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: a fellow activists. Within the blockade. For most within the barricades, 396 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: there wasn't much conflict to speak of. The time at 397 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: the eviction blockade was mostly spent sitting around a campfire 398 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: and watching over the fort to five fences for incoming police. 399 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: For the neighbors who lived near the Red House, the 400 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: biggest change was a slight inconvenience of parking. Many locals 401 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: are very sympathetic to the cause, putting up signs and 402 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: supported the Kenney's and Red House, and some even show 403 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: support in other ways. People were actually very supportive UM. 404 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: Neighbors were bringing us food and supplies, They were coming 405 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: to hang out with us, they were bringing us coffee. UM. 406 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: There were very few individuals in the neighborhood who actually 407 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: felt threatened by any of us. But unfortunately those are 408 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: the people who got to the media first. But I 409 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: think that if we UM were able to talk to 410 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: everyone who was involved, I think that they would say 411 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: that they were proud of what we did. Yeah, like 412 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the ones who the few and far between ones who 413 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: were like against it were they were just very loud, 414 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,959 Speaker 1: quite privileged people with time on their hands, you know, 415 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: which often times, as we know, can have the ear 416 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,159 Speaker 1: of the powers that be. Lots of barricades went up 417 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: in seven lockdown beeped up met Yet both locally and 418 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: naturally couldn't resist the Red House story. What had been 419 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: one families years long battle in the courts was now 420 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: suddenly catching the headlines CNN and TMZ and YEP, even Fox. 421 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: A local activist named Koa Crespan, who had been working 422 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: with Regina to organize with the Kennies, launch should Go 423 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: fund me. It set out to raise a quarter million 424 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: dollars for the Kennies as a bargaining chip to get 425 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: to developer Roman o Zarouga to the table. When national 426 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: media began constantly reporting on the house, donation shot up, 427 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: coming from all corners of the country as sympathetic viewers 428 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: and readers and to stop the Kenneyes from losing their home. 429 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: A slight twist came when the Oregon Public Broadcasting Guard 430 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: op BE released an article revealing that the Kenney family 431 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: in fact had a place to stay after the raid. 432 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 1: In fact, it was another family member who yep on 433 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: their own home. The headline read family at the center 434 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: of the Red House protests old second Portlands home, detailing 435 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: the fact that the home had been kept in the 436 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: family for generations, disperst similar headlines locally and Nashally, they're 437 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: trying to say the Kinney family lied about like not 438 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: having anywhere to go, and when I get kicked out, 439 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: I have gotten kicked out of places that I've been 440 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: staying at and have had nowhere but my grandmother's house 441 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: to go. And that's exactly what happened to the Kinney family. 442 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: The police removed them from their home at gunpoint, and 443 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: they had nowhere else but their grandma's house to go, 444 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: so they went to say there and the media tried 445 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: to say that they had a second house and as 446 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: if an entire family with multiple generations all has to 447 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: live in the same house, that is some racist ship 448 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: was super racist to say that a black family has 449 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: to all live in the same fucking house. All p 450 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: B ran an apology articles shortly thereafter, apologizing for their 451 00:27:56,400 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: mischaracterization of the Kinney's plate. Some support had dwindled, but 452 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: through it all, support for the Red House grew, and 453 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: so did the fundraiser. The go fund me raised well 454 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: over the quarter million dollars and needed to secure the house. 455 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: The developer was ready to approach the bargaining table. With 456 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: the assistance of the city, Roman and the Kinneys began 457 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: discussions about transferring ownership back into the hands of the family. 458 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 1: This was a mark of celebration for some who had 459 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: been occupying the house since September as conversations with Roman 460 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: trucked on the city after days of threatening police force 461 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: against the house, promised the barrel with back off if 462 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: barricades came down. The Kidneys obliged, to the dismay of 463 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: some activists, many white, who wanted to flex the strength 464 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: of the people. But for Regina, she says, the occupation 465 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: was never about the walls. There were a lot of 466 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: people who we didn't even know, who had never been 467 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: to the Red House, who had opinions on what we 468 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: should have done and like who we are now because 469 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: we didn't keep those barricades up. Um, But it was 470 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: never about the barricades. It was, it is and will 471 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: always be about what is best for the Kidney family 472 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: and what they want. And um we did lose like 473 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: support slowly and slowly after the barricades UM came down. 474 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: People stopped coming and UM their individuals living at the 475 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: Red House right now who still need support from this 476 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,719 Speaker 1: community and are not getting it because the cops aren't 477 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: an imminent fat anymore. At the moment, it does seem 478 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: the eviction blockade was successful in applying enough pressure to 479 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: open up options for the Kinneys to keep their home. 480 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: Holding down a few blocks of a neighborhood while raising 481 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars may not be a perfectly 482 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: replicable strategy, but it does show the type of things 483 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: that can happen when community comes together to stand up 484 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: against a perceived injustice. Here's Coy on the potential impact 485 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 1: of the Red House story in the future. And I 486 00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: hope it happens all around the country, and I hope 487 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: people are inspired by it and that they go speaking 488 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: out evictions to do the ship with than to lift 489 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: up this work. Um, this isn't like the first ever 490 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: time a neighborhood has risen up to defend an eviction. 491 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: This would happen even as far back as the thirties. 492 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: Communities would come together to fight um, the police when 493 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: they came to drag people out of their homes. Right, 494 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: I think like we've all have I don't know, we've 495 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: probably all seen that pick of like it's from like 496 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: the thirties, Like range of reference where it's like neighborhood 497 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: men and they're all white, like on top of a 498 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: sheriff stopping them from evicting a widow, you know, like 499 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: a handful of people continue to occupy the Red House. 500 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: Negotiations have continued since December, but all parties have been 501 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: pretty tight looked about the status of the talks up 502 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: until now. Red Houses not marked the end of protests 503 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: in Portland's More than anything, it's galvanized a large amount 504 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: of mutual aid directed around evictions and houselessness. During the 505 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: same period, as Red House activists keeping multi week watch 506 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: over a houseless encampment at a local park that was 507 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: under threat of sweep by the city. As winner is 508 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: set in the Mayor's support to roll back eviction protections 509 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: as well as protections against camp suites. Facing freezing temperatures 510 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: and the mounting pandemic, activists are mobilized to get gear 511 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: and supplies, as well as helping with defense work to 512 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: prevent more evictions and displacement. Activists argue that sweeps and 513 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: evictions are unconscionable during a pandemic, and that money funding 514 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: the evictions could be used to make sure that people 515 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: are housed. Dmitria Hester speaks about the continuing mutual aid. No, 516 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: I am I. It hasn't surprised me because our community 517 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: know us the need. They know us the need, so 518 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: they started all this group so that that we can 519 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: help the need in our community. I mean, people are 520 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: still getting evicted, They're still not being able to pay 521 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: their bills, They're still not and food from our government. 522 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: So we have to depend on each other to give 523 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: us what we need, you know, to be successful, to 524 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,959 Speaker 1: keep going on, because I don't see a future of 525 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: our government giving us or doing anything to help us. 526 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: So we still have to continue this fight. Plus we're 527 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: pushing it to the to the White House. I was 528 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: there when um when Biden one, we marched our march 529 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: with the Black Panthers to the White House, saying to 530 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: for eight tell the tell the world who we hate, 531 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: the Republicans, the Democrats, the whole damn bunch. Another ongoing 532 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: movie in that this game renewed interests in the summer protests, 533 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: the Patrick Kim and marches that happened twice a week. 534 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: Leeth Winston has been marching the streets of Portland's at 535 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: times alone, in the search for justice for her son 536 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: Patrick Kimmons. For years, Leith has pleaded for local officials 537 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: to reopen his case. Sator he was shot and killed 538 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: by Portland police in lateen. The calls were matt with 539 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: little action. That was until the George Floyd uprisings. These 540 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: protests gave rise to an immended version of the slogan 541 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: black Lives Matter, with many beginning to proclaim that all 542 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: black lives matter. While this phrase was created and part 543 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: to give more visibility to black LGBTQ people were experiencing 544 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: some of the worst harms in the community, it also 545 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: grew to buck at the idea that those worth honoring 546 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: or remembering need to somehow be perfect victims, black and 547 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: unarmed with no criminal background. When news of Kiman's case broke, 548 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: details were scammed he gotten into a confrontation with two men, 549 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,720 Speaker 1: shooting and wounding both of them. Police showed up shortly thereafter, 550 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: and he was shot and killed. It was later revealed 551 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: by the autopsy that of the twelve bullets police fired 552 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: at twenty seven year old Kiman and I entered his body. 553 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: It also showed that some of those shots had gone 554 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: through his back. After a judge ruled out there was 555 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: no wrong doing by the police. The Barreau released footage 556 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: of the early morning standoff. Organizer Jedi Leave explains the 557 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: scene here basically, like there was like a minor like 558 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: argument or scuffle or whatever, and Patrick started running, and um, 559 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 1: he didn't know that he was running towards the police, 560 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 1: but he was running towards the police and then went 561 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: to turn into like in between some cars, and the 562 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,439 Speaker 1: cops started shooting him and all the shots went into 563 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: his back. So, um, yeah, they shot him in the 564 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:33,280 Speaker 1: back and killed him. And uh, the cops were not charged. 565 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: It was basically rule justifiable homicide and um it wasn't though, 566 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: because they shot him in his back. So during the trial, 567 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: the rookie cop who fired the fatal shots described himself 568 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 1: as doing what he was taught to neutralize the threat. 569 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: It was enough to vindicate him in the courts, but 570 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,400 Speaker 1: not in eyes Slita. She's been leading regular marches throughout 571 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: the city since, sometimes with the crowd, other time it 572 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: was just alone with a megaphone to manny for the 573 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 1: case to be reopened. Once the Portland protests began, her 574 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: fight gained new light. Organizers like Jedi have helped grow 575 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: the fleet of protesters marching alongside Kim AND's mother. He 576 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: talks about his involvement in the marches here. She did 577 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: it for well over a year with virtually no help, 578 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: um except for one person named Jay and he still 579 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,240 Speaker 1: comes to this very day like he's the only person 580 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: that actually stuck with her throughout this entire time. But 581 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 1: um so, she's basically just trying to spread awareness and 582 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 1: like talk to Ted Wheeler, it worked. An emotional face 583 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: to face between her and the mayor was finally scheduled. 584 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: Ted Wheeler was super sad and was like, I can't 585 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: believe I haven't done more about this. I'm really really sorry. 586 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: He told her that she's like the strongest speaker, like 587 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: one of the strongest speakers she's he's ever seen, and 588 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: he was brought to tears. Snigger was literally crying in 589 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: the Mayor's office. Um so that was great. And what 590 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,919 Speaker 1: she's trying to what basically, we're just continuing to put 591 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: the pressure on, uh, the police officers when we go 592 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: out and um really, we just want this the next 593 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: meeting to to come up because the next meeting they're 594 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna sit down and actually review the tapes together. So 595 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: um that is what's being done right now, um and 596 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: just keeping our fingers crossed. That happened sooner, sooner than later. 597 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: Still the case has a mem reopened. Leatha continues to 598 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: march around the city demanding justice for our son, effectually 599 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: known as pat Pat. The marches have continued with increased 600 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: numbers through all the fall and into winter. During the autumn, 601 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 1: face with increased attacks from far right extremists who would 602 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: attack Leatha's marches with signs and flags declaring that they 603 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: backed the Blue. Organizers and activists began using the slogan 604 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: back the Black for their weekly protests. That continued hate 605 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: and aggression that these peaceful marches have seen reflected the 606 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: growing vitriol that was coming from the far right as 607 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: we moved into the election, and finally, the January violence 608 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,280 Speaker 1: that rocked the nation. In Washington, d C. On January six, 609 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: thousands of Trump supporters rushed to Capitol Building and a 610 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: last ditch attempt to stop the certification of the presidential 611 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:28,400 Speaker 1: election results. The violent attempt to take over forced Congress 612 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: to evacuate, left five dead, including two police officers, and 613 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: drew the ties between law enforcement, Republican Congress people, and 614 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 1: far right militants to the forefront of national awareness. In December, 615 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: a stop to Steal rally in Salem, Oregon had similarly 616 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: breached the state capital, though the group hadn't reached the 617 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: chambers of Legislature. CCTV footage later showed that the breach 618 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: in Salem began with the Republican Legislature opening the doors 619 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: to admit the mob. On the sixth January, a small 620 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: far right group assembled again and clash with left wing demonstrators. 621 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: The group again included both mainstream Republican politician and extremist figures, 622 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960 Speaker 1: including one of the white supremacists convicted in the nine 623 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: murder of Ethiopian grad student Mulla get Us. A raw 624 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,800 Speaker 1: in Portland. Compared to the nation's capital, the Salem rally 625 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: was limited. No major breaches of the capital in Salem occurred. 626 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: By three pm, the crowded dispersed. Despite the shakeup, Biden 627 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 1: assumed office just over a week later. On his first 628 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: day in office, Biden signed executive order halting ice deportations 629 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: for a hundred days as the administration attempted to overhaul 630 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: many of Trump's deportation policies. That same day, protesters in 631 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: Portland gathered at the local ICE headquarters. They didn't want 632 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 1: to temporate into de deportations. They wanted a complete disbanding 633 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: of the nine eleven era agency, who split up scores 634 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: of families, held small children in cages, and acted in 635 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: strong concert with the FBI since its inception. This night 636 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: ended with sick suarrests and without the stating of tear gas. 637 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: Days later, another it was a different story as Feds 638 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: and right gear matt protesters with cuffs, force and classet gas. 639 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: The headquarters had, however, become a fixture in the protests, 640 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: with federal agents regularly deploints c S gas against him. 641 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: But situated next the facility was a school k through 642 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: a public charter. Cottonwood School of Civics and Science School 643 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 1: regularly was engulfed in tear gas. Dr Juni per seminists 644 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: immediately sprung into action, collecting soil samples across the school 645 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: campus and Coldness playground to assess its impacts. While that 646 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: research continues, Cottonwood didn't wait for their answer. They wanted 647 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 1: an immediate into the use of tear gas by federal agents. 648 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: Now the agency hasn't issued any formal response, but It's 649 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: almost certain that activists will continue atturning to the building 650 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: and call for an end to ICE as weeks roll 651 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: along with four years of Biden and Harris at the Helm. 652 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: Their election was a welcome reprieve from Trump's heavy handed 653 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: brand of racist politics, but not an into the fire 654 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: against systems of oppression. The simultaneous re election of Mayor 655 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Tch Wheeler was a mark of dread for many of 656 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: who have been on the ground. He eaked out a win, 657 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: earning more boats and on ballot challengers Sarah i annerone, 658 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: but less than her in total writings, many which are 659 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: presumed to have went to Don't Shoot Portland founder Torressea Raeford, 660 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 1: who community members launched a writing campaign for after the 661 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 1: longtime BLM leader lost her bid for Portland's top seat 662 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: in the primaries. The results revealed a divide even in 663 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: Portland politics. Despite the split, it also marked the most racially, 664 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: gender and sexually diverse council in the city's history. The 665 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: new council assumed office cs January. Negotiations began between the 666 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 1: city and police union that same month, and this time, 667 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, the public got a glinse 668 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 1: behind the curtain after monster protests that put their Barrel 669 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 1: on headlines across the world. All eyes were on these 670 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,520 Speaker 1: powerful van cards of the profession. In the negotiations, tensions 671 00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: remained high as union heads railed against new measures of oversight, discipline, 672 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: and limits on overtime expenditures. While the Barrel had said 673 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: they want racial and social justice changes in the police force, 674 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: many of the proposed changes have been met with critique 675 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 1: and resistance. Their current contract with the city expired June 676 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: this year. As negotiations continue, it remains to be seeing 677 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: what changes will come between the Barrel and the city. 678 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: The past year has been marked by a number of 679 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: police involved violence, despite their growing calls for justice. In Vancouver, Washington, 680 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: a bridge away from Portland, two young black men, Kevin 681 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: Peterson Jr. And Genoa Davis, have been killed by officers 682 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: within just a couple of months of each other. And 683 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: the college town of Eugene, Oregon, Wi Sheen Shariff was 684 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,240 Speaker 1: shot after police responded to an alleged domestic violence report. 685 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 1: Sharif did survive. Meanwhile, I missed the back drop of 686 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: the pandemic. The streets of Portland are seeing dirty year 687 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 1: highs and gun violence. Economic downturn is leaving the city 688 00:41:56,239 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: on edge. White supremacists of all stripes have been emboldened. 689 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,360 Speaker 1: All cries for justice for black lives have reached feverish 690 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 1: new highs. The international cameras are gone now. Protests continue, 691 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: but in marketly smaller numbers. That nine minute feuse of 692 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 1: George Floyd's murder had lit a fire under the country. 693 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: You know what surface was a renewed urgency to transform 694 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,280 Speaker 1: a system that has devalued black lives, not as an exception, 695 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: but a fundamental tool and tradition of the society. As 696 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: the streets have quieted, the urgency for chain still remains 697 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: for those that have been a part of these uprisings. 698 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: As the resistance begins to take a new face, the 699 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: question remains, what's next. I don't think it's going to 700 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: I don't think people are just gonna get tired and 701 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: go away. This is like people have had enough of 702 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: this police brutality, and in the racism that you know 703 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: influences police brutality. I don't see it going away. I 704 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: mean I see it heaving and flowing, like you know, 705 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: just it's almost natural for any energy to do that. 706 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,919 Speaker 1: So we go you know, we go up with big 707 00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 1: turnouts and go down with low turnouts, are up with 708 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: really good morale, and then you know, down in the 709 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: dumps later. It's just so I think it's going to 710 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: keep following that some kind of evan flow of change. 711 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's going to go away. I 712 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: don't see how would you go away when the police 713 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,920 Speaker 1: are continuing to kill unarmed black people or continue their 714 00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 1: continuing to do it. I think it's really telling that, 715 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: as far as I know, not one single Portland police 716 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,359 Speaker 1: after has been um disciplined for their actions. And they 717 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: have done some extremely terrible things that should be disciplined, 718 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 1: things that go against their training, things that go against 719 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: their own policies and procedures, and these things are caught 720 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: on video, so there's no excuse at all for why 721 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: they have not been disciplined. People just like become the changes, 722 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 1: become the one that like the way just pushed out 723 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: into the big c of water, BIGFC and and that's 724 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: what it is. You know. I think, like I look 725 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: at Ferguson, uh so that movement you know, kind of 726 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 1: faded away or whatever. This just happened. I can't Yeah, 727 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, and this kins election. They just elected one 728 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: of the activists from their Congress. So that's like the 729 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: movement like says what that's like last change, and the 730 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: people there has been well radicalized to do so it's life. 731 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:43,680 Speaker 1: Though the movement that's tied to the summer may stayed away. 732 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: It's like unless they're going to, you know, remove everybody 733 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: and all of our experiences and all of our renewed 734 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 1: perspectives on life, and you can't really like destroy movement 735 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: and all natural I think the it's interesting there there's 736 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: like two different The morale of the city as a 737 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 1: whole is very like in Limbo, I feel like often times, 738 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: but because it's like ultimately people who are protesting are 739 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: ultimately doing it for the right reasons, and we get 740 00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: like little glimmers of like hope. But then like just 741 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,320 Speaker 1: today I learned the three black people that were killed 742 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: in the last week throughout the United States by police unarmed, 743 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 1: so and then you hear ship like that, and then 744 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: it it just makes you wonder, like why are we 745 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: even continuing to do this, Like why even keep fighting? 746 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:37,920 Speaker 1: This just keeps happening. But I think that um, right 747 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 1: now we live in this I feel like, right now 748 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: we live in this time of questions where we have 749 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 1: a lot of questions without answers, But there are years 750 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,399 Speaker 1: that asked questions and there are years that answer them. 751 00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: I don't think we're in a in a year right 752 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: now where we're gonna get a lot of answers, and 753 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: that's okay. I feel like we need to be okay 754 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:02,319 Speaker 1: with like sitting in the questions and going through like 755 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: the mud and going through the puddles, so to speak, 756 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 1: in order to get to where we want to go. 757 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,720 Speaker 1: It's gonna take time because the system has taken years 758 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: to UM to build into what it is right now, 759 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,799 Speaker 1: and so it's just gonna take time. So I think 760 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: the morale of the city limbos because you have a 761 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,640 Speaker 1: bunch of you know, the white neo liberals who just 762 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,960 Speaker 1: want to go back to normal. But normal was killing us, 763 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: so we're not going to do that. And then you 764 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: have our side, which is like we're feeling we're getting 765 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: pulled in all kinds of directions, We're feeling inspiration, and 766 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 1: then we're feeling discouragement because we keep seeing the same 767 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: ship happen. But ultimately, UM mutual aid really is the 768 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: way of the future, and I think that these mutual 769 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 1: aid groups and networks that were forming right now are 770 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 1: really the genesis of what it's going to look like 771 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: for humanity to live in a world without dependence on 772 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: the state and without needing or feeling like we the 773 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,240 Speaker 1: police are going to keep us safe when they've proven 774 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: so many times that we don't. UM. So I personally 775 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:18,919 Speaker 1: am excited about the future because I'm witnessing like the yeah, 776 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: really just the genesis of what of the world that 777 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: I would like to live in. UM. But obviously, you know, 778 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: it's the whole two steps forward, one step back thing 779 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: that we that we have to do with as well. 780 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,439 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to how things are going. I'm 781 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: just hoping that more people can really open their eyes 782 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: to UM how they're how being complicit to the system 783 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 1: is literally murdering people they look like me and Donovan, 784 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,719 Speaker 1: and that we need to stop it. There's too many 785 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 1: people who are still sleeping UM. That's a big reason 786 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 1: why I think we were doing that thing at our 787 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: CJ was to wake up this side of this the 788 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: river like march through the neighborhoods, wake people up, let 789 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,759 Speaker 1: them know that we're here. There's a ton of us, 790 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 1: and that they need to be on our side because ultimately, 791 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,000 Speaker 1: when when we are free, when black people are free, 792 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 1: everybody is going to be free, because black liberation is 793 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: human liberation at the end of the day. So if 794 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: we can really focus on uplifting our most marginalized and 795 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: most oppressed communities and we're uplifting everybody at the same time, 796 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: and the quicker that more people really understand that and 797 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: are inspired enough to actually take action and be a 798 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 1: part of the movement, um, the better. Just um yeah, um, 799 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to things that personally we conquer your 800 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 1: New year's resolution to be more productive with the Before 801 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: Breakfast podcast. 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