1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 2: Third hour play and Buck kicks off right now. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: We're talk to you about the Israel Hamas war with 5 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: updates from what's going on over there and force the 6 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 3: political impact here and in other Western countries. So we 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 3: have the IDF, these really defense forces have gone into. 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: The Al Shifa Hospital in Kaza. 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: This is the largest hospital complex in all of Gaza, 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: and it's also a place where thousands of people have 11 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 3: gathered for shelter apart from medical care. Now the IDF 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 3: has gone in because they have been able to ascertain 13 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 3: that there is a tunnel network that Hamas is using 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 3: under the hospital. So this is specifically and this is 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 3: right in line with Hama's tactics stretching back for decades, 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: not just using civilians in general human shields, but trying 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: to use those you know, infants or in you know, 18 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 3: incubators and and you know, elderly who have severe health 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 3: issues who are in the hospital getting or anybody who 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: has a severeation in the hospital. So they're hiding behind 21 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: the wounded and tiny babies in this hospital. That is 22 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 3: that is what Hamas is up to Here is John 23 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 3: Kirby speaking for the Biden administration, talking about what's going 24 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 3: on here. 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: Play twelve Amas. 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 4: And the Palestinian Islamic Jihad use some hospitals in the 27 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: Gaza Strip, including Al Shifa and tunnels underneath them, to 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 4: conceal and to support their military operations and to hold. 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: Hostagist now Clay on the on the one hand, the 30 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 3: IDF ground campaign is underway and they're going to methodically 31 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: go through and and Yahoo has said that anyone who 32 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 3: is in Hamas uh and and was involved in the 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 3: attack in any way plotting it, planning it supporting it 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 3: will be captured or killed. And that is the mission 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 3: here that Hamas can no longer co exist alongside the 36 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 3: state of Israel. But in the West you still see 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 3: that there is this desire to create a false equivalency 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: between these two sides in the reporting. Here is the BBC, 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: which has been which is and has been among the 40 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: most pro Palestinian and pro Hamas major news entities on 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 3: the planet. The BBC is really left wing on a 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 3: range of issues, but on this issue for sure, and 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: they're apologizing here for claiming that the IDF was targeting 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: medical staff. 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: Play thirteen, an apology from the BBC a BBC News 46 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 5: as it covered initial reports that Israeli forces has entered 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 5: Garza's main hospital. We said that medical teams and arab 48 00:02:55,840 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 5: speakers were being targeted. This was incorrect and misquoted Arroid report. 49 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 5: We should have said IDF forces included medical teams and 50 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: Arabic speakers for this operation. So we apologize for this era, 51 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 5: which fell below our usual editorial standards. The correct version 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 5: of events was broadcast minutes later. 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 3: Kind of, but see this is not a minor thing, right. 54 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: Let let's let's take a look at this. The BBC 55 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: state supported media in the UK. They went from Israel 56 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: went in their targeting meaning killing, that's what that means, 57 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 3: or arresting, you know, with military force, medical personnel and 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: anyone who speaks Arabic. 59 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: To actually is play. 60 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: Israel showed up with additional medical personnel alongside the IDF 61 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: to help support medical operations inside this hospital. They're even 62 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 3: discussing ways that they can move for example, babies. I 63 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 3: mentioned babies who are in the you know, incubators to 64 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: hospitals either in Egypt or in Israel. And they brought 65 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: Arabic speakers which Israel has many of and the IDF 66 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: has many of so that they could communicate effectively with 67 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 3: everyone inside to let them know we're not here to 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 3: harm you. We're actually here to help. We're only here 69 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: to look for hamas leadership, and we'll do what we 70 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 3: can to make not only make make sure that you're safe, 71 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 3: but that you get better medical treatment than you would 72 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 3: have if we were not here with our resources. It 73 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 3: feels like, I mean, for the BBC, the BBC went 74 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: from Israel was targeting doctors to Israel's providing doctors. 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: That's a pretty big difference. It's a huge difference. 76 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: And what I would point to is this comes on 77 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: the heels of everyone uniformly accepting what Palestine said about 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: a hospital being destroyed, which you later found out was 79 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: actually a parking lot, And when Palestine said over five 80 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: hundred innocent people died, it actually ended up maybe being 81 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: a handful. If you knew that you had already failed 82 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 1: by accepting the Palestinian side of a story as truth, 83 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: wouldn't you be even more likely to exercise safeguards going 84 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: forward so. 85 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: That this did not happen again? 86 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I would, And it points to something that I've been 87 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: hammering for a long time, which is if you always 88 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: air in the same way, it isn't a sign of 89 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: journalistic failure or of negligence. It's the intent. And the 90 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: example I've used for all of you out there is 91 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: how many times did the Washington Post get a Donald 92 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: Trump's story that was favorable to him wrong? 93 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 2: And I would. 94 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: Always it's always fun to just point out, like, let's 95 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: pretend that Donald Trump saved a bag full of kittens 96 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: that somebody tried to throw off the bridge in Washington, 97 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: d c. From being drowned. He was out playing golf, 98 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 1: he had a ball near the water. Somebody threw a 99 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 1: bag of kittens. He found the bag of kittens and 100 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: he saved them. Oh, that's a super positive story about Trump, 101 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: and then it ends up being not true. Can you think, Buck, 102 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: of any story that the Washington Post or the New 103 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: York Times have had about Donald Trump that they've had 104 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: to retract that put him in too favorable of the light? 105 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: No, it was too positive. Never happens, No, have they 106 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 2: because they. 107 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: Well, it's I think it started out for a lot 108 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: of people thinking they get these stories wrong. And this 109 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: certainly applies to the Israel Hamas conflict, they get it 110 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: wrong in good faith, and that's just because they're trying 111 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: to be so so even handed to double You know, 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: if the Hamas you know, medical authority says that fifty 113 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 3: thousand people have died, I think they say eleven thousand 114 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 3: people have died so far. 115 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: But whatever the number is, we should just report. 116 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 3: It and act like it's likely to be true. But 117 00:06:57,560 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 3: the odds are or rather, if you look at this numerically, 118 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 3: at some point, there would have to be a story 119 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: that went, as you pointed out with the Trump thing, 120 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 3: in the other direction of terms of political damage, right, 121 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: it'll be just reporting. Then there would be errors in 122 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: both directions. And I also feel like whenever Israel reports something, 123 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 3: there tends to be a there's a specificity for some 124 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: of these news that works and like, well, this is 125 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 3: the Israeli government saying it, and those are like, oh 126 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: my gosh. But all these casualties that are mostly children 127 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: in Gaza, it's just only only like women and children 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: being killed in Gaza according to Hamas. But what you also, 129 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 3: I think recognize Klay with all this is that a 130 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: lot of times there there will be reporting because there's 131 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 3: a pretext to do damage to the other side, and 132 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 3: even if you know it's likely to be false, you 133 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 3: want to get the story out there. And that's what 134 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: you saw with Trump for years, and that's what you 135 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: see with some of these news networks with Israel as well. Oh, 136 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 3: it's unlikely that this is going to be true. In 137 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: the New York Times, five hundred people Israel killed five 138 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: hundred people in one missile strike by accident. That would 139 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: be a massive story. It is highly unlikely to be true. 140 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: But it was a way of immediately creating the perception 141 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: that Israel is being reckless and wanton in its destruction 142 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 3: and killing civilians before it even really began the campaign 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 3: in a meaningful way in Israel, right, So you get 144 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 3: to push the perception and then the you see this 145 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: also with you see it more. But on Twitter, right, 146 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 3: somebody would say something defamatory about a Republican. 147 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: Fifty thousand retweets, and then you'd. 148 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 3: Go to their replies and they'd say, oh, actually, that 149 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 3: was totally untrue twenty retweets. Yeah, and you realize that 150 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 3: the damage was done and they're happy that they did it, 151 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 3: and the fact that they were wrong doesn't matter to them. 152 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: That is how the pro Hamas media in the West 153 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 3: reports on this conflict. 154 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, you're out there, you may 155 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: be saying, okay, that's BBC. Well, the New York Times 156 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: had to apologize for the hospital strike believing Palestine without 157 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: actually doing due diligence. 158 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 2: This just happened. Positive. 159 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: Two hundred and ninety thousand people showed up in Washington, 160 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: d C. To rally in defense of Israel and in 161 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: defense of Israel's ability to defend itself. That's a very 162 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: positive story. The Washington Post didn't cover it as a 163 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: national story book. Did you see this? They buried it 164 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: on the metro section as a local news story. Two 165 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety thousand people in Washington, d C. They 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: filled the National Mall to support Israel. I would mention, 167 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: by the way, a one hundred percent peaceful protest. None 168 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: of this trying to tear down American flags or kick 169 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: indoors or attack police officers like we've seen at so 170 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: many of the pro Palestine and pro Hamas rallies that 171 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: have taken place all over this country. Two hundred ninety 172 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: thousand people show up express support for Israel, and there 173 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: is absolutely zero negativity associated with it at all. Washington 174 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: Post doesn't cover as major news story seems like kind 175 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: of a big story buck. Instead, they bury it in 176 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: the Metro section of the Washington Post. 177 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: They had a meeting. 178 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: When bias always occurs news coverage, bias always occurs in 179 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: one direction. When errors always occur in one direction, you 180 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: have a clear problem in the way that you are 181 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: reporting the news. And an honest news organization would recognize 182 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: those blind spots if they were intent on trying to 183 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: keep the car between the lines right, if they were 184 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: just trying to call balls and strikes to use a 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: sports metaphor, and they knew that they were consistently failing, 186 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: they would try to address it instead. 187 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: They and you have to remember that on this issue 188 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 3: of the of the Arab Israeli conflict or Middle East piece, 189 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: the Israeli Palestinian issue, of people in newsrooms that have 190 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: been there for a while, they've been dug in on this, 191 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 3: in some cases for decades. And so there are a 192 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 3: lot of people who work at the New York Times, 193 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: the Washington Post, CNN who have been Palestinian sympathizers and 194 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 3: therefore very critical of quick to jump on, quick to 195 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: criticize and unfair toward Israel for so many years. Now 196 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 3: they're faced with this difficult reality of Hamas has just 197 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 3: blown through all the lines here. Hamas has shown the 198 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: world a barbarism and an evil that is unmistakable, and 199 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: that has really separated these two sides with greater clarity, 200 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: I think than ever before. And so you have a 201 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: lot of people who don't want to believe it, you know, 202 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: who still are in denial about it. 203 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 2: I'm talking in the newsrooms. Yeah, never mind the lunatics. 204 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: We're walking around pulling down posters of those Israelis and 205 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: Americans who have been kidnapped by Hamas still to this day, 206 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: and then people are calling for for ceasefire and all 207 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 3: this stuff. How many days is Israel supposed to sit 208 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 3: back and allow Hamas to hold all these captives and 209 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 3: God knows what they're doing to them. I mean, how 210 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: many days is this supposed to continue on? I mean, 211 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 3: and we're coming up on two months. It's crazy to 212 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: think about. I mean, they took these people hostage initially 213 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: on October seventh. We're over halfway through now, basically November, 214 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 3: and we still don't know where they are. 215 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: I mean, some of these people are babies. 216 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's totally absurdly ridiculous that we've even allowed 217 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: this to become a conversation. In my opinion that anyone 218 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: with a functional brain would be arguing in favor of 219 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: a ceasefire. But that's where we are, and I think 220 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: we'll talk about this. We need to update people on 221 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: that Las Vegas story, which we talked about yesterday. Give 222 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: them the absolute latest on this seventeen year old kid 223 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: who was beaten to death in a high school by 224 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: a mob of fifteen other students. We'll give you an 225 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: update on that. But I think what you're seeing is 226 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: stories so often now are percolating up that violate the 227 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,479 Speaker 1: existing narrative, and when the worldview is challenged, instead of reassessing, 228 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: they pretend that they aren't occurring, or they argue that 229 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: they try to shift the story from oh, the Hamas 230 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: terror attack to let's advocate for a ceasefire. 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A lot of different 254 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: topics UH to dive into, but I wanted to mention 255 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 1: this to all of you. We talked about this yesterday. 256 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: There was a seventeen year old kid beaten to death 257 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: on video by a mob at his Las Vegas area school. This, 258 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I believe buck happened on November the first, and yesterday 259 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: we said it's been two weeks and there had been 260 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: no charges at all brought. We brought the story to you. 261 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: We wanted to update you. This just happened yesterday or 262 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: early this morning. Eight high school students in Las Vegas 263 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: between the ages of thirteen and seventeen have been arrested 264 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: on murder charges in the fatal beating of a seventeen 265 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 1: year old classmate. 266 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: This was at a Tuesday evening. 267 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: News conference, and I'm reading from the article here at 268 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: CBS News. Las Vegas Police homicide Lieutenant Jason Johansson said 269 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: investigators were still working to identify two more students believed 270 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: to are participated in the November first fight that he 271 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: said was over a pair of wireless headphones. They said 272 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: the local FBI office had been involved, and the additional 273 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: two students will also face murder charges, bringing to ten 274 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 1: the number of people who will be charged in this case. 275 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: The seventeen year old victim, Jonathan Lewis Junior, died a 276 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: week after the fight. They have ruled the beating a homicide. 277 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: The social media video described as extremely disturbing by the police. 278 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: Officer said it was that video that allowed investigators to 279 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: identify the suspects. 280 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 2: Here's a quote from him. 281 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: Many of you and many people in the community have 282 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: seen the violent video that is circulated throughout our community 283 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: via social media. If you, or your child or someone 284 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: you knew has seen that violent video and recognized anybody 285 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: that may have been a participant participant in this senseless crime, 286 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: you need to get a hold of us again. This 287 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: is pretty crazy. It looks like ten different kids are 288 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: going to be charged with murder. That's the right result. 289 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: Buck Again, for those of you know seeing this video, 290 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: it's a white kid beaten to death by a mob 291 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 1: of black kids at a Las Vegas school. You said yesterday, 292 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: and I one hundred percent agree with you. If ten 293 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: white kids had beaten a black kid to death, every 294 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: person in America would know what has happened and there 295 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: would be cities burning. 296 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 2: It took two weeks for them. 297 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: To identify anybody from a video, and I think only 298 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,439 Speaker 1: with media pressure has there actually been any charges so 299 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: far brought. We'll see whether these kids are charged as 300 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: adults with right, whether that's. 301 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: Three of extinction ailes, because if they're treated all as juveniles, 302 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: some of them you know, clearly could be charged as 303 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 3: adults based on their ages. So we'll hopefully see justice 304 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 3: actually done it some way in this because you know, anyone, 305 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 3: anyone should be able to know that what this did, 306 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 3: of what these kids did here is just heinous. All right, 307 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 3: gun owners, you know the importance of staying familiar with 308 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: your firearms and keeping your aim intact. 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He's got a new book out, Unwoke, 329 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: How to Defeat Cultural Artism in America. Senator Cruz, great 330 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 3: to have you back. 331 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 6: Sir clay Buck, great to join you both. Thank you 332 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 6: for having me. 333 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 2: Can we start with this? 334 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 3: I don't know if you've get a chance to see 335 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 3: it centric, because that just came out. 336 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: Recently in the last few hours. 337 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 3: I believe Quinnipiac poll first one that we have seen 338 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 3: here where Trump is up two points nationally on Biden. 339 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 3: We are seeing a lot of encouraging numbers in the 340 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 3: Swing States with a Trump or honestly even some other 341 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 3: Republican candidates as well against Biden. Are you are you 342 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: cautiously optimistic or are you worried? People are seeing these 343 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 3: numbers far too soon. 344 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 6: Well, look, we're a year out, so the world can 345 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 6: change dramatically at a year. But I will say this, the 346 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 6: Biden record is a train wreck. Biden came into office 347 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 6: three years ago and he inherited peace and prosperity, and 348 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 6: we now have inflation hammering working men and women, the 349 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 6: cost of everything a skyrie bucketed. We have crime rates 350 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 6: that are out of control. We have the worst illegal 351 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 6: immigration in our nation's history, and we have two wars waging. 352 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 6: We have the largest land war in Europe since World 353 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 6: War Two. We have the worst war in the Middle 354 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 6: East in fifty years. All of that has happened under 355 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 6: Biden's failed leadership. So I think the American people, a 356 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 6: large majority, recognize we're on the wrong track. I think 357 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 6: it is an enormous opportunity to change track, and I 358 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 6: hope and pray we do that. I'm committed to doing 359 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 6: everything I can to fight to win the election in November. 360 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 6: In my race, I'm running for reelection in Texas, and nationally, 361 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 6: we've got to win the White House back. 362 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 1: You've run several races in Texas, You've run national campaigns. 363 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,440 Speaker 1: What are the numbers look like in Texas right now 364 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: for Trump because we've heard and also for you, but 365 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: we've heard a lot about Hispanic voters moving to the 366 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Republican camp, and certainly we saw that to a large 367 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: extent down on the border in twenty twenty and twenty 368 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: twenty two, both. Are you still seeing those trends in 369 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: Texas based on the numbers you're seeing. Is the Hispanic 370 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: movement towards Republicans continuing to grow based on the data 371 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: you're seeing on the ground in Texas. 372 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 6: So yes, and that part of the story is encouraging. 373 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 6: Right now, Trump is leading in Texas right now, I'm 374 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 6: leading in Texas. That being said, Texas is a battleground state. 375 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 6: You're right that Hispanics are trending right. But at the 376 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 6: same time, we've seen nationally the two biggest demographic trends 377 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 6: in the country have been blue collar voters moving right. 378 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 6: That's moved Midwestern states more Republican. But at the same time, 379 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 6: suburban voters, particularly suburban women, moving left, and that's moved 380 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 6: big suburban states more Democrat. You know, for Texas. For 381 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 6: my reelect, we're anticipating a very serious fight in Texas. 382 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 6: My last reelect six years ago was the most expensive 383 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 6: Senate race in US history. We were out spent three 384 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 6: to one, and I won by less than three points. 385 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 6: I won by two point six percent. Chuck Schumer has 386 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: made clear I'm his number one target in the country. 387 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 6: And if you want to give a warning sign of 388 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 6: why Texas is a battleground, look no further than Georgia 389 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: and Arizona. Georgia and Arizona four years ago they had 390 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 6: four Republican senators. Today they have four Democrat senators. Both 391 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 6: voted for Biden over Trump. And and that challenge is 392 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 6: the suburban women. Georgia is dominated by suburban women around Atlanta. 393 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 6: Arizona is dominated by suburban women around Phoenix. And in 394 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 6: both instances, those voters throughout two Republican senators and elected 395 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 6: two Democrat senators instead. That's why Schumer has put a 396 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 6: bullseye on Texas because our demographics are very, very similar 397 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: to Georgia and Arizona, and so we're anticipating a real fight. 398 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 6: We're gonna win, but we're gonna win because we're doing 399 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 6: the hard work. We're raising the money. By the way, 400 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 6: go to Ted Cruz dot Org. Tedcruz dot Org, Ted 401 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 6: cruz dot org support the campaign because we're working eighteen 402 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 6: hours a day to make sure we win next November, 403 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 6: no doubt. 404 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: And I wanted to build on that too, because you know, 405 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 1: I live here in Tennessee bucks in Florida. I would 406 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: say Texas, Tennessee and Florida have seen a monstrous amount 407 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: of new residents coming in. 408 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 2: And I'm sure you hear it all the time. 409 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: You see don't Texas or don't California, my Texas. Yeah, 410 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: the same thing happens Tennessee in Florida. To what extent 411 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: do you believe the new residents in Texas politically help 412 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 1: or hurt you? And Trump and anybody else's who's fighting 413 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: for truth to justice in the American way in Texas. 414 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 6: So look, it varies and they're cross cutting currents. There's 415 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 6: some people who are in blue states California and New 416 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 6: York or Illinois, and they're fed up. They're fed up 417 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 6: with the high Texas, the high regulations, they can't stand 418 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 6: the woke policies, they couldn't stand the COVID shutdowns, and 419 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 6: they decide they want to leave. And they look across 420 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 6: the country and the folks that pick Texas, they decide 421 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 6: I want to be in Texas. The data show they're 422 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,239 Speaker 6: actually more conservative than the media and Texas voter. They 423 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 6: come to Texas, they buy a pickup truck and boots 424 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 6: and a hat and a shotgun, and I call them 425 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 6: refugees for freedom. I want those folks come to Texas 426 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,439 Speaker 6: and live free in our great state. The challenge in 427 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 6: Texas is we also have a second group of folks 428 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 6: coming in, and that is when a company moves to 429 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: Texas and they're fleeing terrible economic policies, but they then 430 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 6: transfer their employees, and those employees didn't make an affirmative 431 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 6: decision I want to be in Texas. They just see 432 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 6: their job move and they stick with their job. And 433 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,159 Speaker 6: I think the data shows those employees vote exactly like 434 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,680 Speaker 6: they did where they came from. And so, for example, 435 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 6: you had a bunch of tech companies moving into Austin, Texas. 436 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 6: That's great for economic growth, but they're bringing tech workers 437 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 6: that are voting like blue state California Democrats. And how 438 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 6: those two groups intersect I think we'll say a lot 439 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 6: about the impact on Texas or Tennessee. Tennessee has a 440 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 6: lot of companies moving into it as well, so you've 441 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 6: got both kinds as well. I think Florida in some 442 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 6: ways is better off, and that the people coming too 443 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 6: Florida are predominantly Category one people fleeing seeking freedom. So 444 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 6: Florida's getting reader. But Texas and Tennessee we got so 445 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 6: many companies coming. In some ways, we're victims of our 446 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 6: own success. 447 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 3: Speaking of Senator Ted Cruz, he's got a new book out, Unwoke, 448 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: How to Defeat Cultural Marxism in America. Senator Cruz want 449 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 3: to give you the opportunity to just tell us he 450 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: wrote the book on this one. It feels like the 451 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: wokeness has been actually taking some losses, whether it's the 452 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 3: bud Light phenomenon or some of these box office bombs 453 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: that were trying to be very you know, ultra dei based, 454 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 3: et cetera. 455 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: How do we win, how do we keep the momentum? 456 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 6: Well, that is exactly what the book is about. It 457 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 6: just came out this past week. And what the book 458 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 6: does is two things. It number one describes how the 459 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 6: radical left took over the major institutions in America. So 460 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: every chapter of the book addresses a different institution. I 461 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 6: start with universities, and chapter one is universities. I call 462 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 6: universities the Wuhan lab of the woke virus. That's where 463 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 6: it was created, that's where it mutated, that's where it 464 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 6: spread from universities. The book goes on to chapter two 465 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 6: on K through twelve education, then to journalism, then to government, 466 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: then to big business, then to big tech, then to entertainment, 467 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 6: to movies and TV and sports and music, then to 468 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 6: science and the politicization of science. And the last chapter 469 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 6: is on China as a central nexus intertwined with all 470 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 6: of them. The book explains number one, how these institutions 471 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,439 Speaker 6: were seized, but number two exactly what your question is. Critically, 472 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 6: It lays out a practical battle plan for how we 473 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 6: take them back, how we recover these institutions, because if 474 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 6: we don't take them back, we're going to lose our country. 475 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 6: And you pointed to one of the examples that I 476 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 6: describe at great length, which is big business, which and 477 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 6: I talk at length about bud Light and Target. In 478 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 6: both instances, you had woke executives who didn't give a 479 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 6: damn what the customer said, and they essentially tried to 480 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 6: force their political ideology on their customers, and it blew 481 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 6: up in their faces. Both bud Light and Target lost 482 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 6: tens of billions of dollars in market cap. And what's 483 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 6: powerful about that? In terms of strategies? I argue number 484 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 6: one for transparency in Sunlight, but number two for on 485 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 6: the cost benefit ledger of going woke, significantly increasing the 486 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 6: costs so that rational actors will say no. And I 487 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: think on big business we are seeing real and meaningful victories. 488 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 6: We need to see that across those institutions. 489 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: Talking to Senator Ted CRU's new book, encourage you to 490 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: check it out. You ever think about challenging anybody to 491 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: a fight during a Senate subcommittee hearing. 492 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 6: You know, I'm going to stick to the verbal and 493 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 6: argumentative sword and and and probably. 494 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 2: We saw we saw you in we saw you thrown. 495 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: Down the basketball court, sir. It's not it's not just 496 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 3: the verbal pugilism for you. You you can box out. 497 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 6: Uh, you know it's uh. I will say you come 498 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 6: play hoops with me, and and we I played twice 499 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 6: a week, and I'll tell you our game has has 500 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: more violence than skill. But but but we play no blood, 501 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 6: no foul, and there are regularly fouls because we beat 502 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 6: the living crap out of each other. In fact, I 503 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 6: had one of my staff members literally broke my thumb 504 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 6: playing hoops. I went up for a rebound, he came 505 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 6: down hard. His guy named Tony from Brooklyn. He's law cler, 506 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 6: hell of a ballplayer, but he plays like he plays 507 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 6: like Tony from Brooklyn with with you know, a gold chain, 508 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 6: and he's like ready to rumble. And I told my 509 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,960 Speaker 6: daughters when when my thumb was broken, I said, Daddy 510 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 6: yelled out a very bad word. But we finished the game. 511 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 6: You'd be proud to know we finished the game. And 512 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 6: actually I scored again with a broken thumb. I couldn't shoot. 513 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 6: It hurt too bad, but I did a finger roll, 514 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 6: scored a layup, and we won the game. And then 515 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 6: I was out for about six weeks. 516 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: In my thought, what, I'm just kind of curious, what 517 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: does Tony's reaction because Doug Bergham, I think, tore his 518 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 1: acl right or his achilles right before one of the debates, 519 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: and we asked him about that. But if you're a 520 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: staff member who breaks the bone of your boss in 521 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: a pickup basketball game, how nervous do you think Tony 522 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: was when he realized that he had actually injured you? 523 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, he's he's a really good guy. I will 524 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 6: tell you I I I sort of had my revenge 525 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 6: on Tony because I went that night on my podcast 526 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 6: Verdict with Ted Cruz and I just made fun of Tony. 527 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 6: I said, dude, look, I'm all for playing hard, but 528 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 6: you have to break my thumb. Yeah, And so that's 529 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 6: that's sort of my blowback was to make a little 530 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 6: fun on the podcast. But he's a great guy and 531 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 6: he did did terrific work. And and look it, Actually, 532 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 6: you guys need to come play hoops with us, cause 533 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 6: you know, Clay, you're a sports guy. Get it, get 534 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 6: out there. 535 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 2: And I would actually like to. 536 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: Play buck you were just because I don't like college football. 537 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 3: I've played three sports growing up competitively. 538 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: I'm ready to rock, Senator. 539 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 6: What sports did you play? 540 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 2: I was tennis, soccer, and basketball. Ready to go? 541 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 6: All right, well, both of you come on it. And 542 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 6: by the way, you guys, I'm sorry to tell you 543 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 6: so we play, we play old guys against young guys. 544 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 6: I'm sorry to tell you you're both thoroughly on the old 545 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 6: guys side. 546 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: Toushed by this because he's a different generation than me. 547 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: This is this is a shot to Buck's ego in 548 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: a big way that he's on the old guys. 549 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 6: All right, Buck, how old are you? 550 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: Buck? I'm forty one, soon to be forty two. 551 00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 6: Okay, So so we play mostly with Capitol Hill staffers. 552 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 6: You know what, typically the cutoff for young guys is 553 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 6: on Capitol Hill with staffers thirty. What about about twenty six? 554 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 6: And so we play with all these young guys who 555 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 6: are body guys. A bunch of them were college athletes. 556 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: Do you keep a lot of like icy hot and 557 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 3: bandages for the old guys because I I things start 558 00:30:59,640 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 3: to hurt. 559 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 2: You know, my back hurts, my knees, so we could 560 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 2: use some help. 561 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 6: So look, you will be happy to know the old 562 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 6: guys win almost every single game. And there's a reason. 563 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 6: So listen. The young guys who they're stronger than we are. 564 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 6: They're faster, they have more endurance, they have more skill, 565 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 6: but they play like horny puppy dogs. They're so excited. 566 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 6: They go in a triple team. I gotta score, I 567 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 6: gotta score, I gotta score. They go in a triple team, 568 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 6: and they screw it up. Old guys, we know we 569 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 6: can't do that anymore, So we do things like we 570 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 6: set picks, we help on defense, we talk on defense, 571 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 6: We pass to the open man, and we play a 572 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 6: little bit dirty. If someone's going up for a rebound, 573 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 6: you grab their shorts and just pull it down and something. 574 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 6: We don't get the rebound. I mean, that's that's old 575 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 6: man basketball. 576 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: Better, that is old man YMCA basketball. What time do 577 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: you play about? We will play. We'll come play the 578 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: next time. We'll do our show from up in DC. 579 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: What's the usual game time? 580 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 6: So we usually play Thursday afternoon. So I'll have my 581 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 6: team connect with you and when we get good games. 582 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 6: A number of other senators have played with us, some 583 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 6: house members play with us, and so you guys will 584 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 6: come out and we'll have some fun. 585 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: That'll be fun. That'll be a lot of fun. 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Now, Buck, 625 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: I've never torn my acl or my achilles tendon or 626 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: anything like that, but now that I'm over forty, I 627 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: definitely think gotta be careful on the jumping, like I don't. 628 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: I got severely juer myse lot, I got my hammies. 629 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: My hamstrings, men, they're like a violin string. 630 00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: I go. 631 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: I gotta make sure loosen those guys up, because you know, 632 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: we're at the age nine two. 633 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 3: It used to be you get injured and you're like, 634 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 3: I'll you know, you could play through it, Yeah, and 635 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: then you just a week or two you'd be fine. 636 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: You pull a muscle. Now it's like a six to 637 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 2: eight week ordeal, no doubt. 638 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: And speaking of ordeal, I don't know why roundabouts exist 639 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 1: anywhere in the country. 640 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: We've taken him from Europe and we brought him here. 641 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: But I've been mentioning that I've got my fifteen year 642 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: old and I take him out and I'm training him, 643 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: teaching him how to drive. 644 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: Right now. 645 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: This past weekend, Buck, we hit a roundabout in downtown Franklin, 646 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: the main little town square there. I don't know what 647 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: I was thinking. They're taking him on that road. He's 648 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,800 Speaker 1: written around the roundabout with me driving before, the panic 649 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: on his face. Buck, when we got to the roundabout 650 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: and trying to explain to him how to deal with 651 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: what inevitably ended up being a completely packed round It 652 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: made me forget about how insanely difficult it is to 653 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 1: hit a roundabout if you've never been in one before, 654 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: and there aren't that many. There's that great scene in Vacation, 655 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: I think it's European Vacation where Chevy Chase gets caught 656 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, what kid's big Ben and Uh 657 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,799 Speaker 1: And as you're driving around, you think to yourself, this 658 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: is going to be a disaster. Washington Square in DC. 659 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: I used to live right off of it, Washington Circle 660 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: right there. Many people will know what I'm talking about. 661 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: Right up in between the George Washington Area and UH 662 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: and DuPont Circle. Nobody knows how to drive on a 663 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: roundabout and trying to teach a kid how to drive 664 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: on a roundabout is a disaster too. I think I 665 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: think I've heard this, and this may just be this 666 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: may just be socialist propaganda. Yes, but I've heard that 667 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: roundabouts have lower traffic issues than it stops on. I 668 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: don't believe it because I'm terrible. When I was driving 669 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: in Scotland on the wrong side of the freaking road, 670 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: yes and gunning these roundabouts are people ripping through them, 671 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: and they were like four lanes deep in the roundabout. 672 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 2: I saw my life flashing before my eyes. 673 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: You've got pedestrians, You've got like four or five different exits. 674 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: I think they look kind of cool, right, I can 675 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: see why from a design purposes you can be like, oh, 676 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 1: this roundabout in the neighborhood, it's fantastic. Nobody has any 677 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: idea how to drive on them, and if there's anything 678 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 1: more than one lane, it's a recipe for disaster. I 679 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: really legitimately thought there's no way we're ever getting off 680 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: this roundabout without this car being totaled. We made it, 681 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: but this is now the scariest thing that I've done. 682 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: And the driving training process is get on a roundabout 683 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: with a kid trying to learn again, even hardly explain 684 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: with him. Buck, you've got the show solo tomorrow, I've 685 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: got the Patriot Awards with Fox all day. 686 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 2: Keep the shift afloat. I'll see you guys on Friday.