1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I think that's one of the interesting things about music 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 2: is it's so ever president in our lives that we 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: almost take it for granted. But there's so much research 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 2: out there that shows that the reason it's so present 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 2: is because it really is helping us heal. 7 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: I'm Len Hoffman, and welcome to another episode of the 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Music Saved Me podcast, the podcast that explores the healing 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: powers of music. If you love this podcast, please share 10 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: it with your friends. Thank you so much. Also, if 11 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: you like us, you're really gonna love Taking a Walk. 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:36,160 Speaker 1: The podcast hosted by my good friend Buzz Night. It's 13 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 1: also about music and the history of music, and he 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: has some great guests on, so you definitely want to 15 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: check that out. Today, I get to speak with Pete Griffin, 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: the president and CEO of Musicians on Call. This tremendous 17 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: organization nationally supports patients by exposing them to the healing 18 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: powers of music. 19 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: We are proud. 20 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: Supporters of Musicians on Call and we welcome you, Pete 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: Griffin to Music Saved Me. Thank you so much for 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: being here. It's a pleasure to have you and to 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: talk to you. 24 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: Man no Lynn, it's great to be on here and 25 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: talking with you, and I love listening to the podcast myself. 26 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: There's so many great stories that you all have shared 27 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: and the connections that these great artists have the healing 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: and so it's right at the alley of what we do. 29 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: And so I'm grateful for the support of the podcast 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 2: and I love listening to it. 31 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Well, you know a lot of 32 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: people who work with your organization have also come on 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: this show to talk about the great work that you do. 34 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: So it's nice to have the man himself come to 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: the table and share with us exactly all the incredible 36 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: things that you do. But first I want to ask 37 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: you in the beginning, what was the point in your 38 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: life that really connected you so deeply to music that 39 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: you would want to create an organization like this. 40 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those things I would say that 41 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: didn't There wasn't a moment I would that I would 42 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: reflect on. It was more I eventually came to a 43 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: realization of how many time in my life music was 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 2: something that was by my side for something good or 45 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: something bad, and that it really was the soundtrack and 46 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: you know, not to be you know, too spot on 47 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: with it, but like it was a soundtrack to my life. 48 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: It was the good moments, the bad moments. It was 49 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: always there. And you know, I realized that over time 50 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 2: as I started to reflect on it. But then as 51 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 2: I dug into it more and more, I was seeing 52 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: that it wasn't just a feeling. It wasn't just one 53 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: of those things that by chance, music was beside me 54 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: and others during these times. But there was a lot 55 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: of science and research that went into why that was 56 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: the case, and that it wasn't just something that was happening, 57 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 2: but it is something that we were looking for, that 58 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 2: I was looking for to help me get through tough times. 59 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the interesting things about 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: music is it's so ever present in our lives that 61 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,119 Speaker 2: we almost take it for granted. But there's so much 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 2: research oucture that shows that the reason it's so present 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: is because it really is helping us heal. It really is, 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 2: you know, helping us bring back memories when we're feeling down, 65 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: or making us feel happy, or even you know, in 66 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,839 Speaker 2: a scientific way, helping our bodies heal and deal with 67 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: stress and pain and everything else. So for me, I 68 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: don't know that I could reflect on one specific moment 69 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: but it really was something that in hindsight, I realized 70 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: it's been by my side literally since day one. My 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 2: earliest memories are, you know, being three years old, I think, 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 2: and I say three or four years old because actually 73 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,160 Speaker 2: we moved homes just after I was that age, and 74 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: I can remember those moments, so I know it had 75 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: to be that age because we're stolen the home that 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: I'm thinking of, and we'd be singing, you know, Kenny 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 2: Rodgers songs or Dolly Parton or Willie Nelson, and I 78 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: just tell them my earliest memories how to do to music. 79 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: It's incredible that you can remember that far back. I 80 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: think maybe I can get to maybe six or seven, 81 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: but three is impressive. 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 2: I think it had to be three or four because 83 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: I remember in the living room, and this is actually funny, 84 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: my mom would play like a Willie Nelson record and 85 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: she would have us hold our nose and sing it. 86 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: So we had Kavon nasally sound like Willie Nelson. So 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure she got a kick out of it. But 88 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: that's that's why I remember it so specifically. That's increating. 89 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting throughout all of the interviews that 90 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: we've done here on the show. There is definitely a 91 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: very strong through line of most everyone I've talked to you, musicians, 92 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: artists like that harkened back to what their parents exposed 93 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: them to musically, that stuck with them in some way, 94 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: shape or form. 95 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, like I you know, a lot of 96 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: my memories as a kid, you know, were just us 97 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 2: very like humbly sitting on the floor with the record 98 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: player and listening to these songs and uh learning the 99 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: words and maybe my folks like explaining behind them. You know, 100 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: my mom was very much like a folk woodstock, you 101 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: know era person growing up, so she had a lot 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: of connection to those types of songs, and it was 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 2: just it was like education, entertainment and fun all wrapped 104 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: up in the one. 105 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: That's right. And then eventually you would end up starting 106 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: your career. I think you had mentioned at MTV Networks. 107 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Yeah? 108 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 2: It was. It was right after college and I was 109 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, I interned it at Sony Music, at the 110 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 2: record label, and then I was able to get a 111 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: job at MTV, which in two thousand was like, man, 112 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 2: that was the dream job. I mean, that was the 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: biggest It was the biggest company in the world, the 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 2: biggest media brand in the world, the most recognized brand 115 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: in the world. I mean, it was everything back then, 116 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: and so to be able to work at that company 117 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: was a real dream and I you know, I spent them, 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: you know, the better part of a decade there afterwards. 119 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: And so I really got to be a part of 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: MTV during it's it's peak era, and as part of that, 121 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 2: really got exposed to some of the best and brightest 122 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: people I've ever worked with, and really to be part 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: of something that was, you know, socially significant and really 124 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 2: brought music to people, you know, in a way that 125 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 2: at that time was just un rival. 126 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: And now did that have anything to do with why 127 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: you decided or was it part of your journey that 128 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: led you to musicians on call? 129 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: It was, I mean, there was there's there's a longer 130 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 2: story I guess to how that happened, but I think 131 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 2: you know to so, yes, I'd be more specific about it. 132 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: You know, I I loved working at MTV. It was 133 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: it was an opportunity of a lifetime. I worked with 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: some of the best people and it was truly like 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: an amazing moment for me in every way personally, professionally 136 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 2: and all that, But one of the things I realized 137 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: as I as I got older is that a lot 138 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: of I really desire to work at MTV to begin 139 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,239 Speaker 2: with had to do with the fact that I actually, 140 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 2: you know, was bullied a lot as a kid, and 141 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: that I think I realized as I got older afterwards 142 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 2: that it was like a lot of decisions I made 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: was really trying to seem cool, or to have a 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: great job, or to you know, show people that I 145 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: made it or I was worth it, or those types 146 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: of things. And even though it worked out well for 147 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 2: me at MTV because I really did love it, the 148 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: motivation I think was very different in hindsight as to 149 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: why I wanted to do those things. But as I 150 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: got older, I realized that those that feeling of coolness 151 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: was fading quickly, and even though I was at a 152 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 2: place that was fantastic and cool and everyone loved, I 153 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: really found myself unhappy And it took a while to 154 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: figure it out, but I think once I did, I 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: realized that, you know what, I needed to stop doing 156 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 2: things to you know, prove myself to other people, but 157 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: actually needed to focus on the things that really made 158 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: me happy. At my core. And what I realized is, 159 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: in a little time I had outside of work, what 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: I was doing was I was volunteering in New York City. 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: I was volunteering on human rights campaigns. I was volunteering 162 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: at the Museum in Natural History. I was, you know, 163 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: volunteering at a shelter. I was doing all these things. 164 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: And I was like, that was really what was bringing 165 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: me joy in life. And so I said to myself, gosh, 166 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: you know, why am I not doing that full time? 167 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: Like why is that the thing I do on the side. 168 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: And I actually went into work and I resigned and 169 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 2: I said, listen, I can't do this anymore. I explained why, 170 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 2: and then three months later, MTV hired me back, but 171 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: to this time work on social causes and to manage 172 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: the social cause work on MTV. And basically the message was, 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 2: you did a great job in marketing and advertising and 174 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: helping to get people to buy the products that were 175 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 2: on our network. Maybe you can use those skills to 176 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: help our audience actually get involved in these social causes 177 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: that are affecting their life. And so that was really 178 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: the moment that I kind of transitioned into this philanthropic 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 2: mindset full time, and you know, I had a couple 180 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: other stops along the way before Musicians on Call, but 181 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 2: then once I came to Musicians on Call in twenty fourteen, 182 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 2: it was just like this like mental homecoming where I 183 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: felt like, gosh, all the things that I enjoyed and 184 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: loved and cared about were all, you know, in one 185 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 2: place in the work that we do here at Musicians 186 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 2: on Call. So really, I know that was a bit 187 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: of a long winded answer. That's kind of the story 188 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: of how I ended up here. 189 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: No, it wasn't long, and it's fascinating, and interestingly enough, 190 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm a fellow bullied child as well with something to prove, 191 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: so I completely understand. I think my thing it's more 192 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: not that it's about me, but it was more about 193 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: whatever I did, I had to achieve it to the 194 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: highest level. But that does become very unfulfilling after a while, 195 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: because once you get there, what's next? On that note, 196 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 1: tell our audience about the mission of Musicians on Call 197 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: and just all about all the great stuff you do, 198 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: because it really is, it's like some of the best 199 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: work you can do on the planet. 200 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I mean, and I could tell you, you know, 201 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: how it started. There's a the origin story really started 202 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 2: back in the early nineties. We have two co founders, 203 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: Michael Salmon and the Big Tuari, and the two of 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 2: them had had loved ones that were hospitalized and ended 205 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: up passing, and they really were affected by it. And 206 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 2: both of them worked in the music industry and they 207 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: wanted to do something that really leveraged their relationships and 208 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 2: music to help people. And so they got some musicians 209 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: together and brought them to Memorials Cuttering in New York 210 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: City where their loved ones had been treated, and they 211 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: put on a concert and the lobby for caregivers and 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: patients and their family members, and they had the first 213 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: artist was actually win in Marsalis, you know, a great 214 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 2: jazz musician, and it was amazing. And they ended up 215 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: doing it a couple more times and had these great 216 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: lobby performances and everyone would come down and filled the 217 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 2: lobby and it was just this really transformative experience for 218 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 2: everyone listening to this great music in the hospital. During 219 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: one of the visits, a nurse came up to them 220 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 2: and said, listen, you know, this is all fantastic, but 221 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: there's a lot of patients that are up in their 222 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: beds that we can't bring down here. Is there any 223 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 2: way you'd bring a musician to play, you know, in 224 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 2: their room at their bedside, And that was really the 225 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 2: idea that started Musicians on Call. We officially started in 226 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. But our mission is that we bring 227 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: music to the bedside of patients, their family members and caregivers. 228 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: So you're really not going to see us in the lobby. 229 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: What we're doing is we're bringing musicians that are literally 230 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 2: going room to room and playing these one on one 231 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: performances for patients. And that could be any type of patient. 232 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: I mean, we play for kids, adults, veterans, people in 233 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 2: hospice care, seniors, people that are having surgery, people that 234 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 2: are battling cancer, you name it. We play for every 235 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: type of person. We go to the We have partnerships 236 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: with hospitals all across the country and we try to 237 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 2: get to them every single week with musicians, and the 238 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: hospital tells us, you know where to go and what 239 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: rooms to visit, and then our volunteers literally go room 240 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: to room and play for people. And it really is 241 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: a transformative experience. I think it's easy, as I describe it, 242 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: to understand what we do. But when you actually see 243 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: it happen, you realize, like, gosh, this is this is 244 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: a game changer. This is really changing people's lives and 245 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,560 Speaker 2: changing people's day in a way that medicine can't. It's 246 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: really healing their souls and healing their minds on top 247 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: of the physical benefits of it. So it's it's really 248 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: amazing and gosh, I just feel so lucky to be 249 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: part of a group of team, a team and a 250 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: group of people and volunteers that get to do this 251 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 2: every day. 252 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: It is it's a very special thing. And music, well, 253 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: we just had on a I believe he was a 254 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: neuroscientist or he studied neuroscience, but there is actual evidence 255 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: that that is actually healing. I mean, physiologically, things are 256 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: connecting in the brain and it's it's true. It's not 257 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,839 Speaker 1: just some well you hear music, you get happy. It 258 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: really does affect us, as you have witnessed. Could you 259 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: share two with us some of the experiences you've had 260 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: that stand out to you as far as what you're describing. 261 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know again, you can only imagine 262 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: that I've got a thousand a thousand stories to share 263 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: and I'll try to, you know, think of some that 264 00:13:56,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: are that are more recent. There's just so many, I really, 265 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: you know, as I was reflecting on twenty twenty four, 266 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: there was just so many great moments we had. But 267 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 2: one of my favorites was we got to go to 268 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 2: a couple of hospitals with Noah Khan, who is absolutely 269 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: crushing it, you know, as a musician and is well 270 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: loved and I think he gets a lot of respect 271 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: and love from the people that listen to his music 272 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: because he's very like forthcoming and honest about mental health 273 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 2: and health and all these things, and people just have 274 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 2: such a great bond and connection to him. So we 275 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: were in a hospital, I want to say it was 276 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: in Denver, and or maybe it was it was actually 277 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 2: was in Denver. I think it was in Denver, but 278 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: we were in a hospital with him and he was 279 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: going room to room and it was just absolutely unbelievable 280 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: the reaction that people had to him. It was actually 281 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 2: one of the biggest, like rock star reactions I've ever 282 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: seen in a hospital. I think because his music is 283 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: so healing that it connection that I think people had 284 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: to his music was very like tangible in a hospital setting. 285 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 2: But we went into this this young girl's room, and 286 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 2: I can I can share a little bit of detail 287 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: about her because she consented us to share that otherwise 288 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: I couldn't. But she was a teenage girl who's in 289 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 2: the hospital. He goes into a room and you know, 290 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: she just bursts out in tears. It's she's he is 291 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 2: her favorite artist in the world, and she's in there 292 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 2: battling something. And you know, he comes in there and 293 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 2: sits next to her and just starts taking song requests 294 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 2: for her, and it's like, can you can you imagine 295 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 2: what it would be like to have your favorite artist 296 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: in the world like sitting next to you while you're 297 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 2: going through a really hard time and and them asking me, like, 298 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: what do you want me to play next? And so 299 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 2: he did and they sang together and she sang along 300 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: with them, and I think he did like two or 301 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: three songs for her, and then we walked out of 302 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 2: the room. And for me, like, I see that all 303 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: the time, I really do, and it's beautiful and every 304 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: time it's beautiful, and I feel so privileged to be 305 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 2: able to be part of that moment. But I see 306 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: it often. And so as we're walking out of the 307 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: room and getting ready to go to the next room. 308 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: I think he walked in the next room and one 309 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: of the caregivers came out to me or you grabbed 310 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: me in the hallway and said, gosh, you know you're 311 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: not gonna you're not going to believe like how special 312 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: that was for that girl. And I said to her, well, yeah, 313 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 2: I know, I was. You know, I was like, I know, 314 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 2: we're so happy to be able to do this. Say 315 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 2: not that I gave her like a generic answer, but 316 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: I was just very like, yeah, I mean, we're happy 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 2: to be able to do this. I'm grateful that we 318 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: were here today. And she's like, no, you don't understand. 319 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: Like this this girl like not only is that her 320 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: favorite artist, but about two hours ago she received a 321 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: diagnosis that she probably wasn't going to survive. And you 322 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: sit there and you're like, oh, it just it breaks 323 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: your heart number one. But then number two, you think 324 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: about the fact that, like you were there for what will, 325 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: unfortunately and probably be the greatest moment of her life. 326 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: And you know, the artists that are so generous to 327 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: spend their time and create music that people connect with 328 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,199 Speaker 2: are able to provide a happy moment for people that 329 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 2: are literally going through the worst time of their entire life. 330 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: And while she was, you know, crying and singing with him, 331 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: she was also laughing and smiling and having joy. And 332 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: if you think about that, it's like, in even the 333 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: darkest moment of her life, that music and that artist 334 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: we're able to bring her joy. And it just changes 335 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 2: you when you experience stuff like that, but it also 336 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 2: motivates you to just want to do so much of 337 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: it and do more of it. And from a business perspective, 338 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: I just think of moments like that, I'm like, God, like, 339 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: how do we reach more people? How do we get 340 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: to more places? Like? We have to do more of this, 341 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: because if we can create more moments like that, then 342 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 2: it's all worth it. And so that's that's a recent 343 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 2: moment that I think really stuck in my mind. 344 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: It's just it sums it all up so beautifully without 345 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: summing it up, because it's just one of so many 346 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: stories you've actually performed. 347 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: I believe it. 348 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: I saw it on the website for over a million people. 349 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're approaching one point three million people that we've 350 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: played for through these performances, And honestly, like, in one sense, 351 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: I'm proud of that for sure. I mean, I think 352 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: that probably makes us the largest most impactful music charity 353 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: in the entire world. In the other sense, there's over 354 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,959 Speaker 2: thirty million people that are hospitalized every year in just 355 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 2: the United States, So we're the biggest in the world probably, 356 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 2: and we're just barely scratching the surface of it. And 357 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: so I think in that sense, it's also very motivating 358 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: that we've got to figure out how we could do 359 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: more of this, and we are, but it's what keeps 360 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 2: us energize and keeps us going. It's like, we're proud 361 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 2: of what we've been able to do, but we also know, 362 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 2: like goodness, we can there's a lot more people that 363 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: can benefit from what we do, and let's think differently 364 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 2: about how we do it so that we can reach 365 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: more people. 366 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need to clone more Pete Griffins. But speaking 367 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: of people who want to be involved, we loved our 368 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: previous guest, Sam Hollander. Just amazing writer who's pretty He's 369 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: written how many hit songs in his lifetime and he's 370 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: still so young, it's incredible, and the stories that he's told. 371 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: But he also plays an important role with musicians on 372 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: call can you tell us a little bit about what 373 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: Sam does with the organization? 374 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, listen, Sam. Sam's a genius. I love 375 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: that guy. He is actually one of our board members. 376 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: He could be a comedian too, by the way, naturally, not. 377 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: Just a musician, but a comedian writer. He's a funny 378 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: guy for sure. I actually met Sam gosh Abby it's 379 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 2: almost twenty years ago, which is crazy, when he was 380 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 2: working on one of my best friend's bands album and 381 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 2: so they were recording with him, and I've stayed in 382 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: touch with them through the years. But he's been involved 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: with us for a number of years and the way 384 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: that he helps us is just fantastic. He's put together, 385 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 2: you know, concerts for us. You know, he put together 386 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: a concert for caregivers for us where we do like 387 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: a free concert for just for caregivers, so that we 388 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 2: could get them together and thank them for all they 389 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: do for us, and just the way there for us 390 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: to show gratitude to caregivers. And he's like, yeah, I'll 391 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:39,880 Speaker 2: bring some you know, artist friends of mine to perform 392 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: at it. Well, that's great. The only thing is when 393 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: Sam brings his artist friends, you know, he brought train 394 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 2: and he brought Johnny Resnick from Gooo Dolls, and he 395 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 2: brought I mean, you know, the guys from Oar and 396 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and I mean, you have a whole lineup. 397 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, this is insane. But 398 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: that's like the people that he rolls with because he's 399 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: such a low respected songwriter. But the thing that I 400 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: really loved that we've done recently Sam is last year 401 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 2: we had these two young girls that are cancer survivors 402 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 2: that we were working with an organization called Hyundai Hope 403 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: on Wheels and these two girls are ambassadors for that 404 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: organization that really does a lot of work in pediatric 405 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: cancer research. Anyway, we got these girls together with Sam 406 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: and this amazing songwriter and artist Jax who has a 407 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: huge following on social media and is just a really 408 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 2: genius I think songwriter and performer. But they got them 409 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: all in a room and they actually wrote an original 410 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 2: song with these two little girls about their experience battling cancer. 411 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 2: And so they used their songwriting skills to help these 412 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 2: girls really, you know, share what the experience was like, 413 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 2: the highs and the lows and the challenges, and honestly, 414 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: the resulting song was so good. It's like radio quality, 415 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 2: Like you could play it on iHeart and people would think, like, 416 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 2: it's just a great it's just a great song. 417 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: Can they hear it now if they go online? 418 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah it's online now do you know? 419 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: Sorry, got your right on the spot now? 420 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. Hoope Lights the way. Hope Lights is 421 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 2: the name of it. But yeah, I think it's on 422 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 2: all the streaming platforms and everything now. But it's it's 423 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 2: it's fantastic. But anyway, so you think about a guy 424 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 2: that's written so many number one songs for artists and 425 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: that you know, he's able to take the time to 426 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 2: spend I mean, it was a day, it was a 427 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 2: full day with these little girls to help them share 428 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: their story, and it just it's just wonderful that there's 429 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: people like that that will, you know, share their talents 430 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: to help people heal through music. 431 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: It sounds like Sam is expanding the role that musicians 432 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: on Call plays, which is exciting because you're looking of 433 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: ways to expand it to a larger audience always, which 434 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 1: is obviously key when you're when you're help people and 435 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you want to do good in the world. So that's 436 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: pretty exciting stuff. I could talk to you all day. 437 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: Is there any other thing that you wanted to impart 438 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: on our listeners about what you do about musicians on call. 439 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: If there's any way that anyone listening now has a 440 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: way of helping you expand your footprint in the world 441 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: or to get involved in some way. 442 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. And actually this is this is one 443 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 2: of the most important parts of it all, which is 444 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: we need volunteers. We need volunteers all across the country 445 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: to do our program. Now, the very cool thing about 446 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: this is that we have two types of volunteers that 447 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 2: go into the hospital every day. We have our volunteer musicians, 448 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: which you know, on any given day could be someone 449 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: you know, super famous, or it could be an incredibly 450 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 2: talented local professional musician. But then we also have what 451 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: we call volunteer and these are non musicians. These are 452 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: typically people that are either music lovers or just really 453 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 2: want to give back to their community. And these people 454 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: get trained at a specific hospital in their community, and 455 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: they're the ones that tape the musician room to room, 456 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 2: so they kind of act as a moderator for the visit. 457 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: So a guide might you know, check in with the 458 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,959 Speaker 2: nursing station. They might say here's the rooms to go to, 459 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: and then they would lead the musician around and they 460 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 2: would knock on the door and say, hey, I'm Pete 461 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: from Musicians on Call. Would you'd like to hear a 462 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: song today? Engage with the patient, and then if they 463 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 2: say yes, then bring the musician in. So it's a 464 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: really cool thing because there's not a lot of music 465 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: charities where as a non musician you could actually be 466 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: really intimately involved. So if you love music, if you're 467 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 2: listening to this podcast, obviously you're you're right in the 468 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 2: sweet spot of the type of people we would want 469 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: involved with us. There's opportunities in communities all across the country. 470 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: All you have to do is go to our website 471 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: Musicians on Call dot org slash volunteer, and the entire 472 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: onboarding and training process us to volunteer with us happens online, 473 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 2: so it's super easy, you know, just go online, and 474 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: we'd love to have people as part of this amazing 475 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: work that we're doing. 476 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: Pete Griffin Musicians on Call, thank you for everything you're 477 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: doing and thank you so much for being on Music 478 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 1: saved me and it was wonderful to meet you and 479 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: I look forward to working with you in the future. 480 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, LNDA, it's such a pleasure. Your voice in itself 481 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: soothes me when I listen to this program, and so 482 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: you've got some healing powers yourself. But it's a pleasure 483 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 2: to be on and I'm grateful for the work that 484 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 2: you and Buzz are doing to you know, really shine 485 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,679 Speaker 2: a light on the power of music and healing. So 486 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 2: thank you for that.